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http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/Idaho-oth...

More on Corder and animal rights laws.

2timer,lifetimemthomey,mountainmiss

Folks I FEEL your pain... I ranted and raved on here before about this stuff and it drives me NUTS!!! It is frustrating as all get out to see the people living off of taxes of average citizens living BETTER than those that work every day and PAY those taxes. What ever happened to BASIC food needs for those that were truly in NEED??

http://efficiency.idaho.gov/

Governoror's web site where he has solicited input on how to save money on the state's budget. I have already given MY input maybe if enough citizens click and tell the guy how we feel and remind him that if he does not comply with our wishes he can be replaced it will make a difference... Look at the budget "pie chart" on the main page ***491 MILLION*** spent on "health and human services" In a state that has barely over 1 million people!!!

The state employees that administer these programs are chasing down "clients" to put ON these programs, that way they have job security, how about we start by giving them bonuses for every person they get OFF the "free ride" Maybe if there is a monetary incentive for these state employees they will do their job RIGHT!

Mountainmiss, I could not agree with you more, I have also one to many times witnessed similiar situations and it is very frustrating to say the least!!

I use to work in a local grocery store and day in and day out would watch families come through to purchase there groceries with a wallet full of cash and pull out there food card to make the purchase and then get in there escalade and drive home to there 2 bedroom trailer house where all aunts, uncles and cousins live together!!!!

I was extremely frustrated about 5 years ago when I went through a divorce, my son and I went on our way with hardly nothing lived in a small apartment, as I was working full time but could not quite afford anything bigger. So I go down and apply for food assistance thinking that is what its there for, people who have fallen on hard times right??? WRONG.........I recieved a letter saying I would qualify for $17.54 a month, what an absolute waste of time for all involved!!

You can bet that if I would have checked "seasonal farm worker" on the application I would have got immediate assistant and heck of alot more than 17.54!!!!

Thank you for your thoughtful reply Mountain Miss. It would be one thing if the discussion about WECRD is constructive, but the truth of the matter is, all the comments are from the same people saying the same things over and over again and offering up the same false promises about what they are going to do about this debacle. I come here out of hope; hope that my hometown cares enough about other issues that affect our lives and our friends.

Hey Old Guy, sounds like someone forgot to take their Geritol today. I do read the paper. I live in this town and last I checked, the MHAFB fights for my right to free speech. The whining about the WECRD issue is pathetic, and I wish the Mtn. Home News would delete this BB.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIsLsDXXJ...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAHU6kuXF...

With everything going on in this community, WECRD is still the big topic on this BB? Unbelievable.

A big thank you to Marsha Sellers, President of the WECRD Board for "spearheading" the efforts to return the $70.00 charged to me for documents. I got my refund for these fees yesterday after the WECRD Board Meeting. Thank you very much for your input/honesty on this issue and allowing me to speak. Your open attitude toward the public is refreshing. I hope you will continue this action over the next year. Perhaps your attitude will rub off on the other two. Thank you very much.

Proud Mom & OG, Yes it is true, get the paper, read other comments. There is much much more to this than meets the eye. The Powers to be at the Hospital are good at keeping MUM about everything,the TMC has not had a spokesperson for the past 2 weeks. This morning there is now an appointed person at the hospital to take the calls but rest assured you won't get the answers you want. This is outrageous! We need to get together and do this one right!

OG,

I had just heard this news, and thought you have to be joking, this cannot be true! I am very saddened and disgusted with the powers that be to even entertain the idea of NOT renewing his contract. He is a true family doctor. He treats my mother, husband as well as me. I know of many families that have followed him from the base. Including their family members and many friends that have "switched" Docs to receive the high level of care and compassion he offers to each of his patients. Depending on the outcome I know my family will either follow Dr. Baldridge if he stays in the area, or seek my medical care in Boise.

Mo:

The WECRD Board members are not paid. However, when the WECRD Board makes purchases on behalf of the WECRD (as an orginization) with their personal funds, they get paid back. The question this year is why was so much paid out by the directors with their personal funds as opposed to a WECRD check or credit card. Then, when I went to review their documentation/receipts...some were missing. In other words, supporting documentation to support the monies paid back was missing.

As far as who to write to with regard to this. Simpson, Risch and Crapo. The deadline for fiscal year 2011 appropriations is in early February, 2010 (this month). The WECRD is working on at least 200 letters of support for this package which they will send to the above people. It is also important that you speak to people on a local level as well.

There is still the petition to dissolve the WECRD which we hope to have in by late spring/early summer. This will allow the voters of the district to once again vote for or against this. After 10 years, a lot has changed in this community. At the very least, there should be a vote based on current wants and needs and the actions (or lack of action) over the years of this board.

Thank you Moanah for your efforts.

Well I just emailed letters to Chamber of Commerce and City Hall about the WECRD board and what can be done to dissolve them and will write other representatives about this. What are some other good links to write to about this matter? I am totally fed up with what they are getting away with after all these years, I thought they were all supposed to be volunteers,whats with all this talk about paid positions with our funds? I have been a resident since 1985 and things sure aren't changing for the better.

lovemthome:

I think you misread what I was saying, when I mentioned the money going to the district I was meaning the tax money being collected. If you read farther down in what I said you will see that I said it was a shame that the money already collected could be used outside of Mtn. Home, so I do know that it doesn't go to the school. As far as other organizations using the school, the one I mentioned was parks and rec, they already use the school now so they must have the insurance needed. I was just suggesting that the school could be utilized more by them.

And I might add the meeting on 3 Feb what time is it going to be since they have changed the time for the 4th Wed meetings, seeems like the site never gets updated to what is going on

mountainmiss, I think you hit the nail on the head with what you stated. I hope that you will put some pressure on with phone calls, etc. I would also encourage anyone with a few moments to forward letters to Crapo, Simpson, Risch and Otter to oppose the next round of appropriations (YOUR tax dollars) for this bunch. They have a deadline in February for the 2011 appropriations and Betty Ashcraft has already been hard at work on this. So, if you have time, please send a letter to each of the above. Enough is really enough already.

smalltown, no vote in Feb. but we are working to get the petition done. We have limited people and with few people, it has really been a lot of work but we are working on it and do plan to complete what we set out to do. The matter, after all of this time, should be voted on again. A lot has changed since the original vote.

Although I would love to see a rec center here I am also leaning towards wanting to put an end to this board, I would rather have the money go to the schools, so the kids can get the education they deserve. That being said, I would eventually like to see the school expanded to be used by the community. I think that once the economy improves and people get back on their feet, we should look again into the expansion the school wanted. All those expansions, the auditoriom, walking track, even extra class rooms could be used by the community making the school, not only the place for education but also a community center, back home we even used the high school in the summer for parks and rec. programs. That is where the kids went for summer daycamp. The class rooms during the summer were used for summer education programs, the auditorium was used by school performing arts but also communtiy performing arts. I think the school is the heart of the community so why not make it the best it can be for all in this community. I hate to see all the money all ready collected going outside on Mtn. Home but I guess it is better than just sitting in the bank.

What is the status of getting it voted out in February.

Concerning the WECRD, if the reports are true that Ms Sellers is hiring a personal assistant because she is too busy to handle the duties, then maybe she should give up her seat on this board or one of the many others she is on. If it is true, how is the WECRD SAVING money when they are spending more now than before?

As a taxpayer, I wonder when city, county or state officals will look into the actions this board has taken. I would much rather my money bo towards the school district than this entity. At least with the school disitrict, I see some results in minimum time and it benefits many not just 4 people. It is time for these 4 to stop using our taxmoney as thier personal checkbook to benefit themselves and thier pet projects.

Come on Mr. Rist, MHCC, Elmore County Commisioners or State Representatives. You say you are in a HUGE budget crunch and here is a taxing agency that NEEDS to be reigned in FAST.

So if you don't know what color the truck was, how do you know it was their truck? Answer: It was a light color. DoeThe big letters on the back of cab BASTIDA, gave it away. Whether the truck was any color, it had Bastida on it.

How do you know it was a wrecker and not a lumber truck? Answer: Duh, It pulled out of Bastida and it had Bastida wrote on the cab. Lumber or wrecker, it had Bastida written on it.

How fast were YOU going? Answer: The speed limit.

If you "slammed" on your brakes there must be skid marks out on the road for all to see right? Answer: No, anti-lock brakes

What did the police say about it? Answer: The dude at Bastida would not own up to it, so why bother calling the police when you know he's gonna claim it wasn't them.

The one thing that gets me on this is the guy hestitated coming out to the point my husband said "that jerk isn't pulling out is he" and yes that jerk did.

Hazard on Sunset Strip.

Tonight at 6:33 I was heading into Mountain Home on Sunset when a wrecker from Bastida Towing pulled right out in front of me. I was about 50 yards from their driveway and I was driving at the speed limit. Had I not slammed onto my brakes both my husband and I would be dead right now.

Why was this truck in such a hurry? I am not sure but it almost clipped the front end of Mountain Home Transit Van when it pulled into Sunset C convenience store.

I called Bastida to ask who I make a complaint to about the driver and got asked "what color was the truck?" I said I don't remember the color I do know that they went to Sunset C so I asked Who did you send there? His response was for me to call the police. I said it was your driver and then I hung up.

Just wanted everybody to know, how thrilling my ride home was tonight. Folks the other guys isn't watching so you need to be extra diligent in watching out for yourself.

I was wondering what everyone thought about the State of the Union Speech.

I want to share with you something about me. I listened to the President's speech last night about small businesses and innovation. Although I want to be inspired I have my own story of discouragement. We are a small business that employs about 15 people in Idaho and Montana. We are in the "bomb-proofing" business. We actually provide a product that can mitigate what happens in a blast, stopping the wall debris and window fragments. I can't seem to get folks to listen. This products technology has been fully tested and is certified by the Department of Homeland Security under the SAFETY ACT. This product is an American Made Product, it uses American made equipment to apply it and there are a handful of American Companies that are certified to do the applications and it's not crazy expensive.

My main concern has been how well our country is prepared for attacks own soil. Where we do not have guards willing to risk their lives to stop a suicide terrorist or blast boxes or walls everywhere. I worked with a team this last year to develop a plan that could protect our dams from terrorist activity. I think people are unaware of the damage that can be caused if a blast were to occur on one of our earthen dams. An author of an article in the LA Times wrote earlier this week about a car bomb that detonated at her "American" hotel and stated that there was a 30 foot crater from that blast. We have a dam here in Idaho that with the same blast would put a city of almost 50,000 people under about 15 feet of water in minutes! That white paper and "innovative" idea has fallen on deaf ears. Every Politian that I speak to says "great idea" or "maybe we should just build a bridge upstream". Our idea is a cheaper solution, would create more jobs, keep more of the funds in Idaho and would actually mitigate the risk not just move it. Argh. Not to mention that it saves lives! I apologize for putting my burden out there for you but when I listened the President speak and I read news stories about terrorism I feel both fear and frustration. We were asked this week if we would train people overseas how to apply this coating. Yet I can't get anyone locally to listen.

What is your story? Do really feel that the government wants to listen to innovative ideas? Do you believe the president can make any of the things that he spoke about happen?

Well...Marsha Sellers is now President, Mollie Marsh is VP and they have changed all future WECRD Board Meetings to 11:30 A.M. because they did not want to "be there all night" (because they work so hard that 1 night a month they are FORCED to "deal" with the public 10 months out of the year) when they could do it during the day. It is called we do not want the public involved and we can do what we want. Marsha Sellers wants to hire a PT bookkeeper (to help Judy because she is over loaded) and a personal assistant to help her (Ms. Sellers) because she is just far too busy to do it all. Both would be paid positions.

There are changes to their building use policy and documents request policy/charges.

Too much to list and thinking about last night for more than 1 second sort of makes me more hostile at this point and stirs words (descriptive) that are better left off this forum (so as not to be deleted and tick off the powers that be and gosh forbid have me thrown out;). Other people were there and will I am sure fill in the blanks.

They stated their documents policy and charges were less than clear but I did not get my $70.00 back as requested. They charged me $70.00 because of who I am...not because it took 7 hours to "research" 10 pages of information (my request was 42 pages but about 32 pages of that was current, financial information just used for their audit in December...same time as my requests). Arbitrary and capricious sums it up. Discrimination. Attempting to keep their ills from the public eye and under the carpet.

Coatings, you are right regarding worthy topics. Oh, I would have thrown a photo in for free! You have already paid and paid and paid.

Have a good one everyone! I need some Tums and some Asprin right about now.

Who ever posted the info about the affairs at the district office, they might be true, I'm a victim of that.

-- Posted by I_Might_Know on Mon, Jan 25, 2010, at 10:26 AM

It pretty bad if we have to post affairs on the bb when it cannot be proven. All this peron has done is started alot of rumors which would hurt two different familys.. shame on you.

Sara at HUD

From: Betty Ashcraft [

Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:28 AM

To: Sara at HUD

Subject: Re: Western

Sara,

Thanks for the update. Here's the latest on the storage tanks: The property next door is undergoing some cleanup. I have not confirmed as yet the placement of the storage tanks, but I was told that they were nearly empty last spring and expected to be empty by this fall. Will that affect their status?

On February 9, 2009, I had received an email from Stan Olson, our architect, that the current position of the storage tanks was 240 feet from the proposed building site. Since that time we have entered into talks with the YMCA and our building design will be altered according to the future market study. The building will still be within the footprint created by Stan Olson and Todd Waite, the surveyor. The footprint is what is 240 feet from the storage tanks.

There are no planned outdoor activities that would require the extra distance.

Do you need an official letter from Stan stating these distances from the storage tanks? Do you need an official letter from Todd Waite about the footprint of the building in relation to the storage tanks? Do you need a letter from the WECRD about there being no outdoor activities?

I will put together whatever you require. Thanks for your assistance.

Betty Ashcraft

In case you do not read my blog, here is what Betty with the WECRD had to say in an email to HUD on December 15, 2009.

This calls into question 2 important things. First, the WECRD is supposed to be working with the Y to come up with a plan this community can afford now and into the future. We pay the Y a good sum of money for their expert input and ideas. Currently, at least as far as the Y and CDLC are concerned, there is no plan. There is no "footprint" for a building and there has been no determination on outdoor spaces or anything else. Also, the people on the CDLC have agreed to volunteer (or donate if you will) their time to come up with a plan that will work now and into the future (all under the direction of the Y).

It would appear from this email that the WECRD has no intention of altering their plans or waiting to see what all of these people come up with.

I fully support the Y and the CDLC and all of their efforts. Everyone involved is working really hard to find out what the community wants, what they need and if we, as a community, have an ability to support what we would like to have. I fully believe that this is the ONLY chance we have for an organized recreation district in this community. However, I would hate to think that we are spending tens of thousands of dollars on this only to find out that the WECRD is going to backdoor all of us regardless of what the experts come up with. If that is the case, it is misuse of public funds and fraud on the part of the WECRD.

This email sent to a Government agency clearly indicates the WECRD has their own plan. This is why public input is very important at the meeting tonight. Their agenda indicates that public comment will be allowed near the end of their meeting tonight.

Thank you.

Meeting Reminder

The regular January meeting of the WECRD Board of Directors at 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, January 27, 2010.

New Location!

245 East 6th South, Mountain Home

Coatings:

You have left me, for once, with little to say other than everyone has their "passion(s)" in life. Not everyone will agree with the other on what is "worthy" and what is not. Thank you for your very nice post. You make very good points.

Now back to WECRD $700.00 plus photo shoot. Someone asked how many photos were purchased for our money. They purchased 3 photos. I went to the WECRD office and obtained the documents. Here is what YOU got for your money:

(Taken directly from the receipt)

"Business headshot photo session

Includes: Custom Retouch, 8 X 10 Desk Portrait, Hi-Res Image File On Disc With Limited Copyright Release." (1 "session" for each director) The quantity was 3 on the bill.

$450.00

Now on to the "retouch" issue.

"Extended Retouch Services-4 Images

Replace White Background With American Flag.

$275.00

So, for those that wanted to know the number of photos purchased...does that make you feel better now? We could spend money on this but turned down the kids for a donation. Cost of this PR nightmare and it being brought to light---PRICELESS. Yet one more example of absolute stupity and total disrespect for the public, who pays their bills.

Coatings:

To single out one group of people is a form of discrimination. If nothing else it acts as sort of a wedge. It indicates preference to a certain group of people. You kind of make your own point. They should "celebrate" everyone. Native Americans, Muslims, Hindu, etc. equally. They have a general web page that does the same thing as this page that has caused some debate. Why single out one group? What year is this? If we want to focus on groups of people who have been treated in a less than equal way let us discuss Native Americans. It is a great place to start.

I worked for this company in product development at one point in my life. I cannot believe that they think this okay or acceptable. It is offensive to me and I am considered a minority. So, I respectfully disagree with you on this topic. At least compare apples to oranges.

Bad enough the Dem's have making a mess of things the last couple of years, now the Repub's are sending out mail to make it look like part of the census. The country needs to take a hard look at everyone in office in DC before they vote on the next election.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100125/ap_o...

You may contact McDonald's Corporation with respect to your concerns at:

http://www1.mcdonalds.com/contactus/navi...

They allow you to email your thoughts to several different areas of the company.

I would encourage anyone with concerns to email the corporate office. It is the only way they can find out what people are thinking and how they feel.

lilmissmelmo-

Ya, let them try to support a site called 365white, lets see how far that would go! People would be outraged. But Im certainly not suprised by thihs, just look at the McD's commercials...Its very clear right there.

Special Meeting of the School Board, Tuesday, Feb 9 th 2010 at 7:30 PM at the Mountain Home Junior High School Commons. Purpose of meeting is to receive imput concerning financial problems. You will have a max of 3 minutes to speak when your name is called. This is your chance folks to try and find out where all the money has been going or try to help the District fix their problem.

Thank you maybeso. Rules were not made for the WECRD. They have no "rules/laws" that apply to them. They can do as they please. Spend YOUR money the way that they see fit. They are above the law.

NEXT WECRD BOARD MEETING IS ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2010 AT 7:00 o'clock PM! 245 EAST 6th SOUTH.

Show up. Voice your opinion. Question the facts. Be heard!

Laws governing a "recreation district" in Idaho.

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/...

So lifetime, you do not care that YOUR money and public funds are being misappropriated by these three people?

It is a recreation district as opposed the the Western Elmore County Recreaion and Arts District. It does not bother you that this district gives little to nothing to the youth but can give hundreds to the arts? Wow.

Laws for a recreation district:

TITLE 31

COUNTIES AND COUNTY LAW

CHAPTER 43

RECREATION DISTRICTS

31-4316.Purpose of district. Each district is organized for the uses and purposes of acquiring, providing, maintaining and operating public recreation centers, swimming facilities, pools, picnic areas, camping facilities, ball parks, handball courts, tennis courts, marine and snowmobile facilities, recreational pathways, ski areas, and golf courses and public transportation systems and facilities serving the district together with all related grounds, buildings, equipment and apparatus for the use of the residents of the district and the public generally.

Funny---no mention of supporting the Arts! Hmmmmm.

An Open Letter to WECRD

If your cleaning person ever quits, I would like to apply for the job.

Is the School District sure it is the State holdbacks that put us where we are today. I wonder if it was some of their decisions that put us where we are today. If you have kids in school here, go to the meeting on Feb 9th and ask what they are going to do. Show us where you have spent the money in the last few years. Did you have to buy all those portables??? I am so glad I have no kids going though school right now. I hear 40 kids in a classroom may be normal next year. Please go to the meeting and voice your opinion.

The local school district could save some money by not watering the grass 14 times(yes 14 times) in a week and not plowing snow on unused parking lots.

I finally saw the picture of the WECRD ladies. Who are they promoting - the WECRD or themselves? Good grief - they look like they are trying out for the school play or something. Just seems unprofessional to me. They have taken possession of the WECRD as theirs it seems. It's like they are saying to all of us "We are the WECRD". Scary thought.

Just more of moving down the ladder from the Fed's to State and on down to local.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

New post. New info. Still not my blog but great, factual info regarding this 9 year sham. Enjoy your day.

http://wecrdgov.blogspot.com/

Eagle eye,

I'm not sure which post you are referring to if it is the one from a month or two ago I really didn't swear I just put the first letter and last letter of a swear word and added astersisks and such in between so people could figure out what I meant.

Funny you should comment about me so long after that post especially since it was removed so fast and right after I made a comment that didn't concern you whatsoever. Your story doesn't add up and I would appreciate if you would get your facts straight before coming on here and slamming someone because it suits your fancy. I am done talking about this I think I have made my point known and I will not stoop to your level. You do not own this banter box like you think you do always slamming people when their story doesn't add up to what you want it to.

That was a compliment that the children were practically un-noticed and near. Unruly kids can poise an negative effect even several lanes away.. the entire night was uneventfull and a positive experience.

By the way, I should have mentioned in my prior comment that the staff last night at Freedom Lanes were absolutely wonderful. There were several different individual parties bowling including Bowling for Bucks. Ray, you have a great staff...

I heard there was a bomb threat up at walmart last night........Any one know if it was for real?

AF Wife... we were there tonight with the big adult birthday party in the center lanes 6-10. Our lanes were 9 -10, the closest lanes for Bowling for Buck. We started bowling from around 6 and were the last ones out about midnight. There were alot of kids in the bowling alley tonight and I never heard a complaint about any of them. I asked my husband and he said he didn't even realize there were kids bowling near us.

Your children were not a bother to any of us.

Silence:

Splendid web page. Great use of PUBLIC INFORMATION. Contrary to the belief, not my web page but I did make sure the information (for which I was charged $70.00 + $4.20 for copies fell into the proper hands. Now who is the moron girls? If you did not want the information out there...you probably should not have spent public funds the way that you did. PR/business 101. Be accountable girls. This is your baby, not mine. We tried to tell you that your spending was out of control and that not sharing with the kids was a really bad idea. I wonder what Simpson will think of his dream team now. Oh my... Which reminds me, why is a recreation district maintaining a membership with the Chamber and Military Affairs? Cetainly if you could not give to the children of our community you could have done without these two (2) memberships. Much like the MHAC...why would a recreation district give to this (the "arts") but not RECREATION?

Nice photo by the way...it really does add pounds and really shows fine lines. Perhaps that was the photo before the VERY expensive touch up that WE paid for. Yes indeed...money "well" spent girls. I guess they do not teach budget/finance in hair 101 or RN school.

OK Beau, you had me there for a sec....I thought you were talking about the BB.

Good one

Call your legislator. Ask him to explain the governor's 'vision' for Idaho's state parks. Ask for details about turning management over to State Lands, the agency partly responsible for the infamous Tamarack. Next, start thinking about what a privately-developed Bruneau Dunes might look like.

Ahh come on folks we shouldn't be so hard on the 3 stoooges at the WECRD, they are doing their level best to save every penny they can to build THEIR center, no money to youth sports programs or anything else that has to do with recreation. Over 3 thousand to have a web site that very seldom gets updated. A piece of land that they paid over a 1/2 million for that was tax assessed for about 45,000 before they got their hands on it and have made it look so nice over the years and not to memtion its right in the middle of the flood plane. Whats the big deal over the photo of the 3 stooges that they think makes them look good and its only tax payers money, that sorry outfit is never going to wake up and understand the tax payers moeny is not for them to use on themselves. They can't even follow Idaho law on a number of things and then turn around and make their own rules of the day and can't even follow them. And for someone to work there and be paid by the tax payers and then turn around and charge OM 10 dollars per hour to research the documents she requested only taking 7 hours which says they must have the worlds gratest filing system, just like using quick books to track our money . Last point of my day they did a very good job of disgracing the American flag with their over 7 hundred photo. So bottom line is all you do gooders that think the 3 stooges are doing such a great job you back them with your money not mine. Oh almost forgot mountainmiss heaven forbid they would have to clean their own work area that they don't have time to be in cause they to busy with other things to be in that part time office

Eagle

Beau, thank you. One has to ask...what in the world was I thinking?!?!

Mountainmiss, I had the same vomit issue when I was charged $70.00 in "research/labor" to obtain the facts/data. I guess my tax dollars are not enough for them. More on this issue soon.

I would ask anyone with the time to attend the next WECRD Board Meeting and ask the WECRD Board, directly, why they continue to do these things. They hardly ever respond to questions but at least you get them on the record.

Wait till everyone gets to read the emails between a WECRD representative and another party. Talk about waste, fraud and abuse and a complete sham against the public. Yet another reason why these 4 people should not be in charge of things (you may be asking where the 4th person comes in...more on that later). I am off to recreate in the great outdoors (non-WECRD funded of course). Enjoy your weekend.

I have been watching with interest the last couple of days the postings concerning the WECRD. When I saw the comments on the "PHOTO", I of course, was curious to see what all of the upset was about. There are alot of angry people, and rightfully so. I am one of them. What an arrogant, narcissistic display and waste of taxpayers money. Shame on the three of you. Did you stop and think for one second what a stupid waste of money this was??? Honestly, when I saw the picture, I threw up in my mouth a little. The people of Elmore County deserve better than this.

Did your very well-paid legal counsel advise you that this was an appropriate way to spend my hard earned tax dollars? I think the term I am looking for here is misappropriation on every level and at the very least, the three of you should be forced to pay those monies back.

I don't care where the photo shoot took place, or who the photographer was or how much airbrushing it took. The issue is that the three of you used taxpayers money for a stupid, ill-advised and unecessary picture that served no purpose whatsoever. Next time you want a photo shoot, I will run over with my Nikon 35 and for 50 bucks shoot you the way you really are, wrinkles and all. What a phony, contrived way to try and market and justify your existence.

And by the way, get off of your lazy behinds and clean your own office. How dirty could it possibly get when you aren't even there?

Well you may not be drinking the CLDCool-aid but I think your taking sips. And you're right, I'll call the people that are responsible for having the WRECD board members at the meeting and say that they shouldn't have the WRECD board members at the meeting. That would go really far. If they don't have the presence of mind to question that decision when they made it, or when the three amigos showed up and started shooting their mouths off then, they surely wouldn't entertain a complaint about it. They made a conscious decision to allow the board to place their minions on the CLDC and then intimidate the other CLDC members by allowing their presence and their input in that meeting. Or maybe since the WRECD board is paying for the whole process anyway they just told the CLDC that they were going to show up. There's been one or two CLDC meetings since this thing started? They're really cuttin a fat hog in the hiney and gettin er' done aren't they? That schedule that they handed out? How far behind in that thing now? Probably gonna be 2020 before the Taj will be built if it keeps progressing at this lightning fast pace. But hey, at least the arts council will have a steady source of funding for their cheese and cracker crayon drawing party's. After all, what would Mtn Hm be without the depth and breadth of Billy Bob's "Ode to a Whistle Pig"? Chalk the CLDC up in the same category as every other person that should be holding the WRECD board and the CLDC to task. Kool-aid drinkers all. All three board members attending a CLDC meeting regarding WRECD business is another violation of open meeting law. So once again, don't CLDC down my back and tell me it's raining.

AD:

I do believe that the issue of the WECRD Board being present at CDLC meetings has been taken care of and will not happen again. However, you may want to call one of the two (or both)"Chairs" or the Y and ask them for sure.

I do not drink "Kool Aid." I will continue to look at this project with suspect as opposed to a 9 year walk in a $500,000 park/vacant piece of land. If it catches my eye...I will write about it. My opinions on this current WECRD Board are not likely to change. They are the Mickey Mouse Club of Elmore County. That will not change. The ECPA will not go after them, the AG will do nothing. Otter could care less. Why would they change? They run the show and can do what they want and they know it.

More info later.

Oh ok OM. You are a part of the independent CLDC? Is that the same CLDC where the whole WRECD board showed up at the first meeting so they could provide guidance? The WRECD board is going to saddle up the CLDC and ride those geldings right on in to the preconceived notion of pools. There is nothing objective about the CLDC when the WRECD board members sit in on the meetings and nominated a lot of the members of the CLDC including one of their volunteers. So if you want to take a step towards the dark side go right ahead but don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining. The whole point of the CLDC was to get away from the agenda that the WRECD board had been pushing. To ruin the objectivity by priming the pump with WRECD fans and the board themselves at the meetings, makes the whole process as tainted as everything else they've done.

First of all, the info regarding the portrait studio is public information readily available in the financials for the WECRD.

I posted the info to bring attention to the fact that these people spend money on things, OUR money, that are needless. I posted PART of the name of the business. In my opinion, in this community, not many people would pay that kind of money for a photo session. I guess they saw the WECRD coming!

This organization (the WECRD) does this time and time again. This is not new information with respect to their spending. Obtain a copy of the documents and review all of the monies paid back to the directors for various items they say they purchased for WECRD business. Who is to say that the items were not used for Uncle Bob's birthday or Aunt Helen's retirement party?

This people have spent money for YEARS on stupid things. They spend money like they have an ability to print it. Hold them ACCOUNTABLE! Go to their next Board Meeting and ASK QUESTIONS! DEAMND ANSWERS (which they are not very good at doing). If you allow this garbage to go on---we/you only have yourself to blame.

I am on a CDLC sub-committee. I fully support the efforts of the YMCA and those who serve on the CDLC (we pay the Y to "consult" but all members of the CDLC are from the local area and have donated their time). However, these 3 WECRD Board Members are their own worst enemies with respect to this project. Speak up! Join the CDLC and attend ALL meetings regarding the WECRD. MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE!!!!

Referring to the link to ktvb posted by weebro.....What the heck is wrong with people these days, This Mr. Rathsack probably has family here and what devistation that is for them!! Post his picture all over and let it be known what a pervert he is!!

Concerned mom is right in one way- the directors are the ones to be praised for their purchase of the positively inspirational photo, after all, it was their decision, not the photographer's. The directors know that, for just a little more than a $700 Air Force hammer, they can be a beacon of hope and inspiration for their district. There is plenty of precedent for leaders sharing inspiring photos with the people. North Korea would be a pretty depressing place if they didn't have photos of Kim-Jong Il all over to help lift them up.

But, she's wrong about the image. It was bought by the taxpayers, it belongs to them. And, it's freely available on the district's $3,800.00 website, not scanned.

http://www.wecrdgov.org/Budget.mht

You just have to be willing to learn the facts about budgets. These directors can teach us so much about budgeting and spending in these tough times- if we would only pause, reflect, and listen.

3. Yes, a LOCAL business was used, How much does this LOCAL business owner put back into this community? Taxes? Donations to the Schools and Service Groups and Clubs? What about the albums that are donated to the service members from the Air Base during deployments?

Lets talk about this....... you rake the taxpayer over the coals so you can support and feel good about everything else you do for the community......

4. Extended retouching was required to place the image behind the Directors. How much did it cost to get that release for that image? How many hours of work was put into this?

A professional photographer would not need to do anything more than minor touches to any photos..If you are putting hours into retouching and rebuilding a photo you need to go out of business.. Extended retouching was required to place the image behind the Directors.... bull..... this is done if Photoshop and something this simple would be 15 mintues to 30 mintues at most.....

its nothing more than using the magnetic tool to mark out the shapes or the people, cut and paste, use a simple blur on the edges to blend....put the layers together (background and foregound) and save the file as....... usually a JPEG.....

Don't blow smoke.....

I thought they paid for touch-up.... lots of blown highlights in the white shirts..

Now, now OM. The public made it clear what they wanted- recreation. And that is what the brave directors three have delivered- in spite of withering criticism. Now, as we recreate anywhere in the district, we are able to mark a spot in any book we happen to be reading with beautiful district-provided bookmarks, so we won't lose our place when we stop reading to go pay our annual property taxes. No more unsightly slips of paper, or trying to find the page of that steamy scene in a romance novel- just slide the silky smooth marker between the pages, and relax! And- unlike other, cheaper and less effective bookmarks, these can't slip out of sight between the pages- because they each have their own tassels, thanks to the forward (positive) thinking of Director Sellers, and to the patrons of the district for coughing up the $78.50 to reimburse her for those tassels. (hand-tied in Guatemala for fair wages, of course) No average, run of the mill, easy-to-lose bookmarks for these district patrons- they deserve the very best.

And griping about their picture? Why, that $725 would have just gone to waste in the pockets of district patrons- now we all have an inspirational picture to admire, at no more cost than two families' annual memberships at the proposed center. Take a look for yourself:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jYH...

I think we can all agree we would much rather have this icon of inspiration than the measly two week's wages AtomicDog was whining about. You can't really put a price on this level of positive inspiration. Some people have no sense of value. Sheesh.

I am sure they used a certain fairly new photography studio in town that has OUTRAGEOUS prices. That is horrible to spend that on a photo for a flyer that most people toss anyways.

Well, now...... You all KNOW how much I absolutely love taking photos. I've started doing some 'paid for shots" too. But I can't think I would ever even think of charging that much for a group photo.... And if I did, well.... I'd be pretty well off.

Normally I don't jump into these conversations, but for Pete's Sake.... Could the board think that this is OK? Especially under fire as they are. I have tried to give them 'the benefit of the doubt' as much as possible. Part of me wants to think that they want to do right, and just haven't quite found their way. I might be the eternally 'try to think positive' here, but that's how I've felt. But common sense has to come into play also. When be scrutinized, think twice!

So, call me disappointed. Again. And don't get me wrong, I've been opposed to this board for some time, but thought they might see things differently eventually. Please don't think I've been hoping their ideas would pass....as I'm fully against a lot of their plans. I support OM's efforts (along with all you others who are working to right this situation.)

Sorry for a bit of rambling, but I'm slow in the morning.

Jessie

Web page maint.: $3,832.50

They are paying this and the information on there is at least 2 or more months behind. some of the information is almost a year old. So much for keeping the public informed.

Here are some interesting FACTS and they all have one thing in common.

AFAD 2009: $1,833.15

7/14/09-...... Portrait Design: $450.00

(Photo of WECRD Board for AFAD flyer)

8/27/09-..... Portrait Design: $275.00

(Touch-up of photo of WECRD Board for AFAD flyer-must have been a lot to touch up huh?)

$1,176 for WECRD Window Clings (to show your support!)

$421.15 for shirts/hats for AFAD (included in total above for AFAD 2009 but listed as "misc.")

Legal Fees: $16,275.00

Web page maint.: $3,832.50

4/15/09-camera purchase: $159.95

(yet we went to a studio for AFAD flyer photo...interesting)

TOTAL Operating Expenditures for fiscal year ending September 30, 2009: $120,773 (paid by the taxpayer(s) of Elmore County).

Cost to this taxpayer to obtain this information: $74.20 ($70.00 for "research time" and $4.20 for copies).

PRICELESS! Taxation Without Recreation. Gotta love it.

I am pretty excited about the F35 meetings!! Anyone else??

OM & lifetimemthomey.

Thanks for the support and encouragement.

OM that was great story about your "family" and your mother-in-law. Thanks for sharing.

Yep, I too sleep with a potentially vicious carnivore just inches away from my neck. Who knows? One bad dream or for something that I might have done wrong during the day and my jugular is ripped out and shaken like a squirrel that was too slow in getting back to the safety of the tree.

But then.....there is da dog curled up and sleeping so peacefully towards the foot of the bed. There are times when he likes to stretch out and wiggle in between us. When this occurs, I'm really thankful that he took the time to get the proper north-south orientation. If you know what I mean.

mthomey,

Between you and I, we may be personally responsible for Idaho's budgetary shortfalls as Butch outlined in his recent state of the state address. Not to worry though.......I'm still perhaps overly supporting our schools. BTW, any idea as to where you threw that half pack of smokes?

Thank you Chief Walter for the info. My Grand kids know I have a police scanner so they called me wanting to know what was happening up at walmart. I didn't have a glue as I wasn't listening to it I was doing my usual saturday TV watching and being the Granny I am .........I was knitting. lol !

Ms. M and Lifetime,

American Legion was blocked for about 10 minutes Saturday evening due to a fire alarm being received at a business just west of Wal-Mart. Officers blocked the roadway to allow the firetrucks to stage and if necessary run hoses to the fire.

Fortunately, in this instance, the alarm was false and there was no fire or damage.

I am sorry your primary route was blocked during the time you tried to drive through the area. From the crowd I saw at Wal-Mart, most seemed to find their way around the traffic snarl by going in from the east.

Hope you both had a wonderful New Years!

Chief John Walter

Thanks, Mr. Corder.

I have often wondered what it would take to combat the smell from the dairies and CAFOs that are already growing in our county...how ingenious, Chicken Crap! Now there's a scent that will override that eau d' beef manure. Your generosity with our quality of life will make it possible for people all over the country to enjoy Idaho chicken without having to cope with those unsavory production issues.

Does anyone know what happened up at walmart last night? The entrance was blocked off and some of American Legion was also blocked

Hey BassmasterJ8,

I'm just a bit curious.

First, if you needed/wanted a new Memorex stereo from a Radio Shack (RS) store, why did you initially choose to drive 40 plus miles to purchase one from an RS in Boise? If you needed/wanted this item, why didn't you just go to the local RS to make this purchase? If you had and the product was defective, I'm sure the local merchant would have gladly made it right.

Secondly, you stated:

."So i will be making a trip to Boise on Tuesday, and letting the Boise Radio Shack have my business. " It seems to me that you have already made the trip to the Boise RS for your positive business i.e.. the purchase. Now you are complaining that the local RS Franchisee won't give you their negative business i.e. the refund.

I'm sorry Bassmaster. I am not a big fan of anything Radio Shack, but in this case I have to side with the local business owner.

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sniff test ...... failed

Can you believe this???

I bought a new Memorex stereo on Thursday at Radio Shack in Boise. I brought it home and it made a buzzing noise. I called the Radio Shack here in tow, and they said to bring it in today (friday), and they would refund my money.

I went to the store today, and the owner would not refund or exchange my stereo. His explanation, he didn't have the money because "everybody goes to Boise to buy things instead of from me." It was only $29.

An instore credit would have been fine by me, I am sure I would have found something else.

Yes, it is sad that his store isn't getting any customers, but I don't believe it. There was a line of three people in front of me.

So i will be making a trip to Boise on Tuesday, and letting the Boise Radio Shack have my business.

Thats why people don't support local businesses.

BassMaster

I talked to Senator Corder today and the interview that was done was a bit misleading. Senator Corder told me, by phone, that he was going to submit a letter to the MH News to clairify his position since the interview ended before he could say some additional things. What Senator Corder stated was this (and by all means feel free to contact him to confirm this): he has NO intention to create/suggest/introduce laws that would diminish/weaken rules/regulations with respect to animal cruelty laws. His intent is to shift the responsibilty (with respect to "production animals") from the 3 state vets to the Department of Ag. since the Department of Ag. regulates the CAFO and poultry industry anyway. I asked him how the Department of Ag. would be able to "regulate" this since their budget and people have been cut as well. He said that any legislation on this would also have proposed funding included in it so that they could hire the people needed to "regulate." Senator Corder stated that his intentions were NOT to weaken any laws/regulation in place currently. I will take him at his word on this. However, if you listen to the actual interview---that was not how the message came across.

Just because you "know" someone and consider them a friend does not mean they are free from making bad decisions. Had I not said anything most of you would have NEVER even known this was going on. Senator Corder's interview was cut off due to time and I believe his message was not nearly as clear as it should/could have been. Take those rose colored glasses off folks...the politicians are not going to "save" us. Be informed citizens---that is what will "save" us. Ask questions and hold those who "represent" you accountable.

Thank you for the call back today Senator Corder and I was glad you could clarify the issues for me. I will look forward to your article to the paper and updates on this new legislation being proposed.

Lifetime...I do not claim to know it all nor do I EVER claim to be "perfect." Thanks for the thought provoking comments as always.

I'm with Guardian on this point. Corder has my vote. I know him personally and call him a good friend. I also know that he's an animal lover, and cruelty is not part of his personality, in any way, shape or form.

As for "Slaughter Houses" ... the very name brings to mind unspeakable things.... so bad connotations instantly happen in the mind when that word is used. But Slaughter Houses are at times actually "a necessary product" of Life and Death. I believe that the images that come to mind, are at times a fact, but that a well run slaughter house is not like that.

Yes, people should not breed animals indiscrimately, and should be held accountable when they do. But those are not the only animals that come to slaughter houses. As I said before, horrific images come to mind when "Slaughter House' is mentioned, but at times, they provide a merciful ending.

jessie

Guardian:

Gosh forbid that we hold PEOPLE accountable for breeding animals that should not be bred. Indeed, punish the animals! Perhaps we need slaughter houses for all of the STUPID people that breed animals just to breed animals. No...why hold anyone accountable? That is the standard for this country which is why we are where we are today.

Idaho does little to protect their animals as it is. Our politicians are the problem NOT the solution. Another reason we are where we are today. Politicians will not save us.

http://www.dairyherd.com/news_editorial....

And this is what our "good" Idaho Senator Tim Corder is up to.

Just what we need here is more CAFO's and some good old chicken farms and LESS laws to protect animals (production animals are still animals and deserve protection). Senator Corder...representing "The People" and protecting his neighbors. Another reason why I could NEVER vote for this guy. Special interests...YOURS and those of your friends.

I too have experience with both Direct and Dish. I prefer Dish from a technical view point. Dish is much more simple to install, requiring one coax in most cases as compared to at least two for Direct and a power supply for the switch.

Otherwise, they are pretty similar and offer both HD and premium channels.

I find that it is possible to have 250 channels of nothing fit to watch no matter which you choose Dish, Direct or cable TV.

Solace,

I have had experience with both Directv and Dish... their products are similar, but I have had a better experience with Directv. Their customer service is by far better than Dish.

I hope that helps... have a great day!

This is interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8It_i_Gp7...

Whack job extraordinaire.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

Beau, congrats on giving up the nic addiction, that is a tough one, Proud to say I threw away a half pack of smokes on May 26, 2009 and never touched one again!!!! Still smoke free today!!! The pound gaining thing, we won't go there...LOL, actually it wasn't to bad!!!! In 2010 treadmill here I come!!!

Homedog, your last post was great! I happen to agree!!!

Way to go Mountain Home, no DUI's on New Years Eve!!!!!!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE

I got home late Thursday night in time to welcome in the new year with the family. Later, after our traditional cheap champagne toast, most of the family ended up in the same bed. Before you think that something weird or a cult thing is going on at my house, 'most of the family' consists of three cats and one dog. Then again, I guess that may be a little weird on some level. It defiantly cuts into the tossing and turning thing.

One of my resolutions for 2009 was to not be too overly confrontational and to be more respectful in my response to people with differing opinions here in the BBox. I believe that I accomplished that resolution. In a few side room blogs in 09 I may have been somewhat confrontational but I believe that I was respectful in the process. If I was not, please accept my humble apologies for my last year's transgressions.

My second resolution for 09 was my own Copenhagen Treaty of sorts. I vowed to quit something that I have done for ...well...er....aaa...lets just say for a number of years. This was a habit that started on what use to be Idaho farm land. (Just in case my native street creds are questioned ....... again) This was a step by step challenging task and at times it made accomplishing my first resolution more difficult due to the occasional irritability. However, other than a couple of Christmas dips, I have been Cope free for about nine months.

Gosh I guess I could have enrolled into a taxpayer subsidized program in order to cure myself from using a taxpayer subsidized legal agricultural product that IMHO is unfairly over taxed, but I just decided to quit on my own.

My third res was to lose some weight. I didn't do so well in this area. In fact I may have picked up a pound or two :) I blame my second resolution.

oh Freedom

So Sorry you broke 3 fingers that must be painful Hope it's feeling a little better as I type this

A couple winters ago I slipped on our deck (helping a dog up a icy deck) and down I went and broke my wrist........... Now I know DON'T WALK ON ICE IN SLIPPERS lol !

BE CARFULL

I slipped yesterday in boise and broke three fingers

My Wish for You in 2010

May peace break into your home and may thieves come to steal your debts.

May the pockets of your jeans become a magnet for $100 bills.

May love stick to your face like Vaseline and may laughter assault your lips!

May happiness slap you across the face and may your tears be that of joy

May the problems you had, forget your home address!

In simple words ............

May 2010 be the best year of your life!!!

Happy New Year!!

Thumbs up to the efforts of the City Street Department during the snowfalls this year. I went before the City Council last year and the efforts improved shortly thereafter and continue this year.

A BIG thumbs down to the not so smart people that only clear snow from their windshields using the wipers. I drove to the store today and had one person pull out in front of me. All the windows on the vehicle were covered with snow except for some small peepholes for the driver to see out.

People, it only takes a few minutes to clear the snow off the windows and the hood of a vehicle. These few minutes could save not only your life but others as well.

Ahhhh..... my mistake, I just realized that the poem was from Amused Mt Homey! So, my thanks go to you for sharing that. I really appreciated it.

Jessie

Wow! I had the honor of hearing the most amazing version of Silent Night. The Chaplain from Mountain Home Air Force Base offered Mass at Our Lady of Good Council on Christmas Eve. After mass, before the recessional he told about how he came to be in the United States as he was born in Vietnam. His journey here was not a simple one. When he told his father that he would be offering mass in Mountain Home where there is a large population of Viet Nam Vets, his father asked him to express his gratitude to the veterans who fought for his freedom. As a young adult in the 70's I don't believe I ever heard any good things about the Viet Nam war. Those few words from a man who was affected by that war, on the other end of the spectrum from any I had contact with, has made me stop and think about a lot of things.

After he shared his gratitude he shared his voice in song. SILENT NIGHT, in VIETNAMESE, at the alter of an AMERICAN Catholic church. It was truly amazing.

That was great EE. Thank you.

Beau, great info as always. It was about 30 minutes long and had great facts. Time is short. I hope people will voice their thoughts on this matter.

Merry Christmas to all. Have a great day!!!

Time is short....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3Apgx8c...

.....you decide.

There is a petition that you can sign online AGAINST this healthcare "reform" that is being proposed. Mike Crapo is doing it. Here is the info:

http://www.mikecrapo.com/

Woops! EE, great post. What a cute clip. Smart dog. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you also. I hope Santa brings you some really great stuff!

Gotta love it, sure the pet owners will:

Merry Christmas everyone!! Please open:

http://tinyurl.com/yjxnhqc

Yob,MsMarylin,FNG0312

LOL site is a lil biased dont you think? One silly example from Glenn Becks page would be how your "fact" site calls Becks statement about Van Jones signing the petition a "half truth" and "conspiracy theory of the left"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

then if you read further they flat ADMIT he DID sign it!

but "Democrats such as Howard Dean said that Jones made a mistake by signing the petition without knowing its complete contents."

Using this logic I can run over kids in crosswalks and say OOPS I didn't know they were there and you all have to fogive me and forget it right?

No conspiracy there....... attempting to discredit Beck for stating a fact then ADMITTING it is a fact is pretty IDIOTIC don't you think?

How does that koolaid taste anyways?

How about TRUTH in advertizing call the site feedyouliesandbiasedinformation.obama.poo

What a great site YoB Thanks for sharing

I especially like Glenn Becks file !!

Ordinance No. 1531

Economic Development $155,963

Golf Course Maintenance $560,836

Are these numbers inverted or is this what our priorities actually are for the town? I don't even golf!

Hey all I heard a rumor and went and checked it out, Mountain Home Computers is re-opening with new owners!! They are back in their old store and are supposed to be open by the first of the year. I stopped by there the other day and I guess they are going to have some new services being offered as well as the computer repairs and builds. Way to go.nice to see a hometown business coming back!! Congrats!

I ate at Wingers and it was actually really good. We had great service and good food.

There is a t.v. in the men's bathroom above the urinal, but it is not a big screen. Nothing in the woman's though.

And, Freedom, maybe someone should stop raising prices on the buildings downtown and a reputable business may move in to one of them......

Winger's

Just another Dive on the Right side of the tracks while Downtown Mountain Home Dies a slow Economic Death

What a terrible way too run a city

Curious to know if anyone has ate at winger's? If so how did you like it?

Also has anyone gone to the new candy store in town?

Wow is it Positive Thursday yet? I need to hear some good news. anyone?

OM: I am not going to get into a war of the words with you. But I am going to say I stick by what I said. If the "banter box" was the place to hash out political agendas, we wouldn't have council meetings. This is not the place for board members to come and mince words with you or others. That's MY opinion and I am entitled to it...right? Just as you are entitled to yours.

To answer your question. NO, I have not attended the WERCD board meetings. I have ZERO interest in attending those meetings. I do however attend city council meetings regularly.

Taking your hostility out on me, will not solve the WERCD issues. I have asked you before and I ask you again. Why don't you run for council if you hate the way the WERCD so much. I appreciate you have a stance...I do. And I am not saying I agree or disagree with anything you may or maynot say about WERCD. Everyone should have a stance.

Personally I would rather continue helping the homeless or volunteering to send care packages to our troops or help make the holidays special for less fortunate. Things like that are what I enjoy and attending the WERCD meetings is not one of them. Like I said above everyone should have their stance and things they believe in.

I am curious - why hasn't Elmore County been able to post minutes of their meetings since October 26 on their website? I can understand it taking a few weeks but I think 6 weeks is a little excessive.

Regarding the snow removal - it seems that was an issue once before where the road wasn't plowed. How many properties are there on that stretch? Does Mountain Home Highway District recieve money for those miles? Is Mountain Home legally bound to plow snow if they don't claim those roads in their road inventory?

Reduction and elimination in timber sales has hurt and affected every highway district across Idaho, as well as the possible loss of Craig-Wyden funding. Throw in increased fuel costs, equipment maintenance, liability, man-power and snowpack in the mix and something has to give.

I suggest that the people that live on those roads rally, request to be on the agenda and attend the next highway district meeting to have their questions answered.

Dreamer4goodness: AMEN!!! Thank you for your post. I think no matter what getting the word out there about Breast Cancer awareness or any kind of cancer for that manner is wonderful! I commend you for being a 1/2 cup full even during your own cancer battle.

I also wanted to say in regards to the statement that Dreamer doesn't speak of WERCD on the "bashing Box" I can see why she wouldn't. Let's just state the odvious. Everyone on here can be very rude. (I've had my times too) and if she is indeed a board member I can see why she wouldn't again. Do you see the major or city council members on here talking about "HOT" topics...NO, because those should be handled at board meetings and public meetings, not hashed out on the bander box.

I just don't understand why people have SOOOO much hate on here. Seriously life is way toooooo short for such constant termoil and hate.

Merry Christmas to everyone, and I am sure I will begin receiving the back lash from my post but that's okay. Because my glass will still remain 1/2 full also, even with the back lashing. Again Merry Christmas everyone!

I can't positively say that the folks in remote areas pay the same taxes as anyone else. I live in the county and would assume that I am assessed the same as everyone else but don't know that for a fact.

I do agree that growth hasn't managed to pay for itself as it should and that some should be more forward thinking.

I have always been a positive person. My glass is 1/2 full kind of gal.

I like great commercials no matter what they are trying to sell me. Whether it is a green lizard, a caveman or pink gloves, I appreciate the efforts made to write and produce the short story that catches my attention and makes me smile (laugh). Some are quite cleaver and entertaining.

Last week I copied and pasted an Email sent to me by my support group onto the Mountain Home News "Banter Box". I wanted to share its magic to other readers who partake in this active communication tool gifted to us by Mountain Home News.

As a breast cancer survivor the "Dance of the Pink Gloves" made me laugh while dancing and singing along with the doctors and nurses in the U tube video.

While watching it, I didn't pay attention to which hospital it came from or its commercial message.

I just liked the dance! ...

I also liked knowing its production provided wonderful exercise and emotional therapy for those hospital employees "practicing" and practicing and practicing the moves with the pink gloves..... I was proud of THEM!

Life and Living is serious.

Being a nurse (and a patient) I know the pain of what it takes to watch people every day become sick, sick and sicker then survive or die with cancer. The importance of the dance as sung by Garth Brooks is "putting up with the pain" and to survive. Those of us who have "danced" through the cancer treatments can relate to my comparison as a dance for survival. Kudos to the person who came up with the idea for the U Tube video!

Buying the pink gloves or car insurance from a caveman or lizard is a personal choice.

Corporate donations and CEO bonus' are their business.

At my age I won't miss an opportunity to dance with every song and enjoy my survival.

To those readers in therapy I want to say...

"Hang in there ..... This too shall pass."

I choose to live and share my joy of life and good tidings for another Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

OM-

Thank you for the info on the "cheap" calves-I was being my facetious self again about my 13 year old son's consumption of milk-although I'd love to have a milk cow, my neighbors wouldn't be too pleased about her and I know my cats would love to bring her in to cuddle with her. Like that would ever happen! LOL

On the subject of the MH highway district cutting costs and stopping maintenance of the mountain roads-I understand the reasoning for the cuts. It makes total sense to me, a person who does not live year 'round in the mountains but for the people who do, and there are quite a few that live up there AND commute to Mountain Home and Boise for work on a daily basis, it is quite a worrisome dilemma for them. Along with Mountain Home, the communities of Prairie, Pine & Featherville have grown considerably also. All I can say is thank goodness for Life Flight because no emergency vehicle would be able to make it up there when needed (not only during winter but all year!). Most of the families that live or play up there, us included, maintain Life Flight insurance in case of needed emergencies.

Hopefully they will be able to raise funds to purchase road maintenance vehicles and keep the roads open in order for those who have chosen to live up there to be able to get to work! And on the same note, I hope others that like to recreate in these areas during the winter months like we do, will pitch in to help keep these roads accessible. I know we, as a family, will do our part to help.

Despite the bad weather, The Idaho Motorcycle Club and American Legion Post No. 26 held a "Wreaths Across America" ceremony Dec. 12 at 9:30 a.m. in Carl Miller Park. I had planned on attending but had to go remove snow for my elerly mother-in-law. I drove by right before the start of the ceremony and it made this old veteran proud at the turnout. The ID Motorcycle Club and American Legion should be applauded for thier efforts today

Last Tuesday, my husband had a service call at Fall Creek Resort to work on their walk-in cooler and I went along for the ride. While I was enjoying a refreshment I was talking to Sue and she was explaining to me her concerns that the Mountain Home Highway District recently informed everyone up there that there would be no winter maintenance to the roads from Prairie (Blacks Creek Road to I-84 and Prairie road down to the dam), nor along the reservoir. She had a petition and asked me to sign it; I did because we keep a trailer in Prairie that we use quite often in the winter months for our recreation.

My question to anyone that can answer is why has the MHHD stopped winter maintenance on these roads and what about emergency situations?? Has anyone else heard about this situation?

WAHOO!! Look at the snow fly! I'm glad I paid attention to the weather report and stocked up on my cookie making supplies, not to mention food and milk for my 13 year old son! Stay safe everyone !!

PS...anyone know where I can get a milk cow, cheap?? ;)

If you have not noticed the snow as started again. Be careful if you have to go out and if you don't then DON'T. I plan on staying inside other than to shovel some and sit in the hot tub later on.

Dreamer4goodness wrote:

"When the video gets 1 million hits, Medline will be making a huge contribution to the hospital, as well as offering free mammograms for the community. Please check it out. It's an easy and great way to donate to a wonderful cause, and who hasn't been touched by breast cancer?"

That statement is false. Medline has already made, and continues to make, substantial donations. Their donations are not tied to the number of people who watch the video. They donate a portion of the sales from the pink gloves to the NBCF. Watching the video is not "an easy and great way to donate to a wonderful cause". It is a great video, but dreamer-an elected official- posted a statement that was not true. No matter how good the cause, passing along a statement that is completely false is wrong. She should have known better.

Nice conference win over Kuna by the Mountain Home Lady Tigers tonight .

Good job ladies.

ME1: you made it public on here you signed the Petition, and then public you asked how to remove your name, so my question is do you want to tell the public why you no longer want your name on it. I have listened and heard both sides of why or why not and that is their right and to make it clear I am one of the few that has been with the Petition since the start. The election office will also tell you, that you can contact the people with the Petition and have your name removed but that also requires the letter and it has to be attached to the page you signed and I have already stated NO SIGNATURE WILL BE REMOVED BY US, ONLY THE ELECTION OFFICE WILL REMOVE THEM.

yoB the 400 and some signatures the person gathered will not turned them over to us , so they can't be used at this time, so the Petiton will not be turned in. There has been some say they will finish the Petition but have done nothing to this point so right now it all stands DEAD in the water so to speak. Any more question's you can't be bothered to check on.

Ms. Lauric, I am well aware of the 'margin of error' issue. When my mother collected signatures on the petition 10 years ago she was sure to get extras. Sorry, I need you to explain a little. Do you mean you have 430 plus the already 1700 required... or are you short from the 1700 by 430 signatures.

I apologize... you didn't miss the date, you were told wrong.

No, I have not made any calls regarding the directors attending CDLC meetings. I agree, facts are important. I am just trying to sort through the facts and the BS for myself. Try not to take my posts personal... I could be putting my fingers in my ear and pretend like I don't hear anything you say instead of actually listening to you and asking you questions trying to get your side of each issue.

Breast Cancer is such a huge thing as opposed to many things. Though WECRD is not trivial, it is compared to breast cancer and any type of fund raising or awareness that can be brought by a post on BB.

One has nothing to do with the other. Any time that someone puts something on here that can raise awareness and/or make a cancer patient feel supported, there is no need to compare it to anything else.

Dreamer, I don't know who you are, but thank you for the post.

Jessie Miller

From the WECRD Meeting Minutes of Aug, 26, 2009:

"Director Jana Borgholthaus gave the following brief update regarding the YMCA:

"I want to make it clear the CLDC (Community Leadership Development Committee) is completely

separate from the WECRD, and they are a group that is gathering information for the YMCA.

And the YMCA is, therefore, responsible to the WECRD to share that information."...

From the WECRD July 22, 2009 Meeting Minutes:

..."In following with that, Director Borgholthaus made the motion that we, as a Board,

allow the communications and image messages to the community to be generated by

the CLDC working in conjunction with the YMCA for the duration of the consulting

contract with the YMCA. Any communication that the Board feels would be

necessary to make on behalf of the WECRD will be done in consultation and

agreement with the YMCA to insure consistent messaging. President Marsh seconded

the motion. A vote was held with all three Directors in favor of the motion. Motion

passed."...

..."President Marsh stated later in the meeting that it should be made clear that the CLDC

meetings are "Y" meetings and not meetings of the WECRD."...

(MY COMMENT: unless of course the entire WECRD Board should plan to attend such meetings contrary to what they promised.)

Here is where you can read the Minutes for yourself:

http://www.wecrdgov.org/minutes.htm

Dreamer, I find it pretty funny that you post on here regarding breast cancer but as a WECRD Board Member, you refuse to respond to questions asked by the public with respect to the WECRD. Why is that?

Ms. Smith, here is a little math lesson for you on this crisp Friday. We were required to have just under 1,700 signatures to get the WECRD matter on the ballot. We have nearly 430 signatures outstanding currently. Why would we have spent all of this time and money obtaining signatures to hand it in with nearly the exact amount required? What happens when the elections office deems 200 (just a number) of those signatures invalid? Then, the petition is short and I get to listen to people just like you say..."WHY DID YOU NOT GET EXTRA SIGNATURES." We have to allow for a "margin of error" on these signatures.

Ms. Smith, I did not "miss the date." I stated prior what the situation was. It is what it is. Please try to be more factual in what you report/state. So, did you ever make those phone calls regarding the events of the CDLC meeting where the WECRD Board was present and participated? That is an important piece of information for me since you have not been to a single WECRD Board meeting in some time. You preach about facts but it hard to have those facts----when you do not know what has been going on. I shall await your response Ms. Smith. Thank you.

A friend's daughter-in-law, Emily (Mac Innes) Somers, created, directed and choreographed this in Portland last week for her Medline glove division as a fundraiser for breast cancer awareness. This was all her idea to help promote their new pink gloves. I don't know how she got so many employees, doctors and patients to participate, but it started to really catch on and they all had a lot of fun doing it.

When the video gets 1 million hits, Medline will be making a huge contribution to the hospital, as well as offering free mammograms for the community. Please check it out. It's an easy and great way to donate to a wonderful cause, and who hasn't been touched by breast cancer?

Ann Somers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-m...

Thanks pooh! They are favorites of mine as well. Muh-nom-a-nah.

Also, if you live in the country and have a pump house for your well---do not forget to turn the heat up a bit in there as well. BRRRRRRRRR!

Everyone, stay warm and cozy today. Merry/Happy everything.

MrMister,

I think all it takes to get censored on the MHnews is usage of the comic book version of 'cussing'...exactly like you used. Pretty ironic, isn't it?

Everyone, stay warm and keep your pets inside-and if not in your home, at least in your garage with an old blanket. Also, a reminder to check on elderly friends and loved ones who are tempted to turn the heat down in order to save money.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Kwanzaa (Dec 26-Jan 1), Happy Hanukkah (begins sundown Dec 11)!

sas12,

Didn't use any bad language. Oh sure, I used some "*" or "&" to replace letters that insinuated a cuss word or two, but even that gets removed. Oh well, censorship at its best...gotta love it. People on this site basically tell each other to go to (you know, that place down below) and it doesn't get removed. I sure would like to get ahold of their manual for editing.

Actually I would like to know also about the signatures??? I thought that they had all they needed to but OM had missed the filing date because someone from the courthouse told them the wrong date? So which is it, do you or do you not have all the signatures you need?

Weebro,

Thanks. It finally dawned on me to look at the Winger's website and that is what they stated as well. Thanks again.

My wife and I were wondering if anyone knew when the Winger's in Mt Home is scheduled to open. We have not been in that area of town for sometime now so we have not noticed if it opened yet. I thought it was soon but for the life of me cannot remember the date. Thanks in advance.

Just some food for thought from our past:

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.--

Alexander Hamilton

The most important political office is that of the private citizen.--Louis D. Brandeis

One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.--Plato

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.--Noam Chomsky

So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy.--Roger Nash Baldwin

There ain't no answer. There ain't gonna be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer.--Gertrude Stein

You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt.--Daniel Hannan

solace...they are signatures NOT votes. Folks must go to vote in order to get rid of the mess. The signatures are just to get it on the ballot.

solaceone:

No mistake/error made with respect to the due date. I broke my leg and posted on that some time ago. Read back. If you can do better, please feel free to do so. We are still obtaining signatures and the petition will be completed and turned in. Funny how easy it is to sit back and kvetch about what I am doing/not doing and how long it has taken, etc. We all have other things in life that take our time like multiple jobs. Sorry, I do not have 100% of my time to dedicate to fixing a mess created by "60%" of our local population. As I said before, if you can do better, feel free. Merry Christmas you indeed.

MrMister (or is it MisterMr?) Your admonition of EE's post was up so briefly, that I forgot your username! (Pssst...I don't think MHNews liked your language ;)

Today was just as good as it gets. Woke up to cows mooing, geese flying over, a fire in the fireplace, and hot chocolate. Tonight was dinner out with my husband and karaoke at it's finest.

My glass is half full. There is nothing or no one that can burst this bubble!

The President at his finest again

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091205/ap_o...

Another story of someone who lost their precious Saturday beauty sleep:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/...

You're not alone, Just1.....

It's shop with a cop day It started at 7:30 this morning breakfast for the kids at the Junior High and then on to walmart with sirens blaring giving the kids a ride up there in police cars, and fire trucks

mountainmiss and sas, I am with both of you on that. However, I am going to send my mother-in-law for a well deserved trip to the spa (local of course). She is a great lady and deserves to have some time to herself.

As for what Christmas has turned into...not so much into that either. I just like to have my husband's family around and the kids. We will be out on the horses on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day...rain, snow or shine. It does not get better than that.

I'm right behind you, mountainmiss!!

yoB, don't read into my comment something I didn't say, I didn't say anything that you would be name calling, but you know as well as I do there some that just can't wait to call names like they know it all and they are overdue. AS far as your busy schedule, thats good you are paying attention to school. In the past you have questioned people then checked yourself for an answer and felt some on here lied to you. As far as the CDLC and the WECRD those board members being at the CDLC meetings is like the fox in the chicken coop to guard the chickens. Its my understanding that Mollie didn't say anything at the meeting but Marsha and Jana did, and I haaven't been able to find out what they said.

EE,

I don't understand why you think I am going to name call you. Im not. As for getting my own answers.... Ms. Lauric simply made a claim. when you make claims, you better be able to back it up. Ms. Lauric has stated over and over that she just wants to inform the public, and if she is going to make these claims i'd like her to be able to give information about these claims so that we're getting the whole picture. I'm sorry that this year I have not been able to catch up. But I made commitments and I'm not going to slack on my yearbook, debate, and student council duties to check on everything that is going on with the WECRD. I have only said that Ms. Lauric lied/misinformed 3 times in the entire time i have been listening to her. I unlike some people, refuse to sit on this computer all day and say she is a liar to EVERYTHING she says. It's simply not true. Also, in my last post to Ms. Lauric, I wasn't implying that she was lying, I was legitimately asking.

Ms. Lauric,

Well the reason I kept asking was because I agree there is a big difference in sitting at a meeting and remaining quiet and actually giving input. And if there was input given, what input it was it a big deal too. What i heard was that Mollie and Marsha attended but didn't say anything. I legitimately wanted to hear what you had to say about it. If there is one thing I know, it is that there are two sides to EVERYTHING. Also, Mollie, Jana, and Marsha aren't 'good pals.' I haven't spoken or seen them in awhile. And if you're claim about me believing every word my mother and the directors say is true, I don't know why I would be asking you the questions I was asking.

Normally I just read and try to learn from the postings, but I am tired of paying taxes on something that has never been built. Talk about fraud, waste and abuse. Happy Thursday

Eagle! You silly man. Did you not read yob's blog? It is her senior year and she is far too busy for follow-up and fact finding regarding the WECRD. It is much easier for her to take her mother's word for things (who has also not been to a meeting in some time) or that of her good buds, Mollie, Marsha and Jana. To heck with facts and truth.

yob, I responded to your questions. The WECRD Board said they would stay far removed from the Y/CDLC process. Going to a meeting and speaking at that same meeting are FAR-FAR-FAR from allowing the process to work. Even worse, the WECRD Board was not part of the deal when people agreed to be on the CDLC. Many people are involved with the CDLC only because the WECRD Board was not going to be active in this process. How appropriate was it for at least 2 of the WECRD Board members to be firmly planted at the tables with CDLC members? If you cannot see the fox in the hen house yob then you must be unable to see things as they are. Do you see the 3 white elephants standing next to you by chance?

Good post EE. It is much easier to sit behind a computer and insert blind comments here and there than do the research for yourself and obtain the facts/actual information. Call Mr. Bermensolo yob, he is aware of the "issue/problem" this has caused and I am sure he will be able to answer all of your questions and tell you what direction things will go in from here. Just an idea which I believe I stated prior but I guess you missed it.

OM: "Reason 1: they said they would not interfere and that they would allow the process to work."----Maybe you should clear this up... by 'interfere' what do you mean... showed up at a meeting to observe?

"Reason 2: when people were recruited to be on the CDLC it was with the understanding that the WECRD Board would not be involved, give input, etc."------from your description... it doesn't sound like Mollie and Marsha did anything besides attend a public meeting. If I am wrong... please give me specific details as to what 'interfering' and 'input' occurred.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Fund-set-up-to-...

MountainMiss-

Just one little piece of advice-don't apologize for your opinions on the Banter Box!!! Learn it, Know it, Live it! :)

BULLONEY

But Pooh..., it's not Thursday yet!

Glad to know a civil suit can be filed just because someone disagrees with your views. Or is it for calling someone names, being rude, or just questioning and restating what the other person has said? You should get ready for about 50 or more lawsuits that should be coming your way; could be more if all the "Hicks in the sticks" come after you. You are number one, leading the pack, in the rude/name calling department. What is this ridiculous lawsuit you have threatened before and now once again based on? Someone calling you out or hurting your little feeling?

You obviously are deep into your definition of recreation "USE". Do some more and carry on. Just like all the other facts you try and pass off as truth, glad you figured out my alter ego/identity. Wrong or slanted facts just like most of what you state. All this because $100 was given to the Arts council and you don't believe in that form of recreation. So get back to your form of recreation "recreational use"........

If not posted on here how would someone who has never meet you know what has been going on or what someone has done???????????????????????? You put it out there then get mad because it is used later,,, GET OVER IT,,, Go continue your bender.

Just a few questions and wondering what is your point? What is the point of any of this?

P.S You piece of "work"

om since you are not very smart..., let me help you.

Reaching into a vehicle that isn't yours and removing someone's animal and then taking is home equates to stealing. It was you story that put the facts out in the public. I didn't make it up.

2nd In my opinion, if I was your employer I would fire you for the lying trash you show yourself to be...my statement my opinion.

3rd ... still looking in the public record for those lawsuits you said you were filing...

because you chose to go some place else and start giving out personal info as to your lawsuits; that is your choice. I had no idea, but it follows that you would have problems like that. thanks for sharing.

to prove what a mistake I have made, why not retell your "saving the puppy" story for one and all....

and did I ever... once ever mention the WECRD... nope that is another one of your shtick.. .

but keep going, throw out more personal info and blame others for it.

curious how everything is always someone else's fault. How's the petition? Will we see it on the February ballot?

Mountainmiss, you might want to note whose post you are responding too, it seems you are responding to my comment not a comment from Samb... just a suggestion.

Mountainmiss, while I appreciate your story and experience with what you did, (apparently there was proof and need) I don't believe this to be the exact same type of situation. I wholeheartedly agree that elected officials should be held to the rules and if (mind you IF) there is actual PROOF of malfeasance they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

But one person's personal vendetta does not make it a fact and it is just that... her personal agenda.

If malfeasance can were to be proven, I would be the first in line to demand prosecution.... I personally have reviewed the financial history of one of the public entities that OM has accused of malfeasance...and found their books in order.

Though she might not agree with the way they have run their program, she has not proven any wrong doing on their part. Hence, the SEVERAL judicial entities had no reason to take action.

Just because you had that experience doesn't mean every elected/public official is corrupt.

And OM has proven over and over again that what she presents as facts are skewed, misleading, and sometimes out-and-out lies. Her opinions that she tries to put out as facts do not hold a grain of truth, as I see it. Case-in-point, She has accused the local election clerk of lying and giving her wrong election filing information; AN OUT-AND-OUT LIE!!!!!! She also stated she was filing a complaint against that office and we would all be seeing the results.....another lie?. So, any info put out by that one source (OM) should be treated with suspicion!!!!!!

Do your own research, then if you feel there is need for the action you have taken in the past... go for it. I will need to see the facts before I convict. Unlike some.

Mountainmiss! You are refreshing and said it very well and classy! Hope to see you more on here. It gets pretty old all the name calling and bashing. Should be called the bashing box instead of banter box.

Samb - your "welcome to the game" comment fell flat. I have been reading and watching this forum for quite a long time and finally had to respond. It was because the content of several individuals blogs are getting increasingly angry, insulting, threatening and personally invasive. How is it that anonymous people can take such a dislike to one another and quibble and name call over such insignificant things?

Be that as it may, it is not my intent to call you names or insult you in any way. I think the whole issue lies in the fact that everyone is frustrated with our local government and the rec department fiasco. As a registered voter, poperty owner and taxpayer in Elmore county since 1988,I voted against the rec district and was very angry with the outcome of the election. But, unfortunately, the people spoke and part of that process is living with those decisions, or not. You hope that even though you didn't vote for a commissioner and there were individuals appointed, you have to put faith in the fact that they will turn out to be competent leaders. And if that doesn't happen, then it is up to the people to excercise their rights by removing the problems. AND I think we can ALL agree that there is a problem. I am as angry as anyone the waste of my hard-earned money that has gone to support what has become a political joke.

But in order to do that, it takes alot of informed, committed voices that have credibility, concrete facts and documentation, and have educated themselves on how to administrate successfully that process. Idaho Code provides those guidelines in Chapter 17, Title 34. It is not a simple thing to do - initiating a recall or dissolution election, but it can be done. It takes backbone, joining together intelligent, informed voices, and a will to see it to completion, regardless of how it turns out. But at least you know you tried.

If you spent as much time writing letters to your local and state representatives and volunteered your time to help with those all-necessary petitions and signatures, a recall of those commissioners that are not listening and the dissolution of the rec district is a very real possibility. I think that everyone on here will agree that the cheap shots are getting old and it is time to see change, in our government and in the way we treat each other as human beings.

mountainmiss

Welcome to the game your blog was no better then any other one on here. You even got in the negative and name calling.

EE did the wind mess up your hair as everything went over your head.

Enough already. Have you nothing else to do with your lives than to lob stupid, ill-written diatribes back and forth, none of which is productive or positive in any way? In case you didn't know, there is a process if you don't like what your local appointed or elected officials are doing. It's called "recall". If you truly have legitimate issues of missuse of public funds, open meeting violations, etc. then channel your energy into that route. It is time consuming and one needs to grow a pair to see it through. It does require a petition, with signatures, and more brains than either Samb and/or Opinionmissy seem to possess, but maybe if they combine forces and put all of this negativity towards something positive, they can achieve so much more. There is also another remedy - run for public office yourself to change what you don't like. But that right now is a scary thought, given the mentality they are both displaying. Grow up people - you sound like 2 year old brats.

Well, OH WOW, Samb looks like you came clean with your 7 figure income. once like maybeso said once you put in the decimal point the figures go from over a million down to under 11 thousand, must some real business making about 11 thousand a year instead of bragging of the 7 figure income, even with all that education you can't even do your own math, after the decimal only counts for pocket change, so now who is the liar Samb. So much for the 7 figure income.

WAYL: No you haven't shut me up and never will.

to clear it up it is $10756.83 for the year. Was just making a point to OM she bases her view point of a lot of people on income which equates to intelligence ( just my opinion) NO IT DOES NOT.

Sorry I hit your pet peeve I will not do it again.

Sure am glad I got OM's form of recreation spelled out last night that explains a lot, the mood swings. I will be back later just giving you all a heads up and maybe sort of warning you.

I would like to give an Appreciation to a local business here in Mountain Home.

We recently had to replace a Dishwasher and so we looked around and found that at Lanes Appliances no one else can beat their prices and purchased one there. We are very happy with the dishwasher and will encourage everyone to shop at their store.They even sent us a handwritten thank you note later. How many businesses in Boise do that?

Well, OM speaking of personalities choices, I see you have chosen to be your delusional psychotic self now... let's review your history... According to your posted statements-first I was definitely a member of the WECRD board, then I had to be one of the supporters, oh yeah One time you claimed you had met me-you stated I was a woman who signed your petition and now I am Samb. You really are off-balanced.

Samb BE WARNED!!! She has threaten to use any means possible to find out my personal identity, even to the point of assigning my screen name to anyone who opposes her. The scary part is that if she thinks she knows it is me... WHO KNOWS what sick crazy step she would take next. She is not all there and seems not to be able to live in reality, so be careful with the amount of personal info you put out for her to grab a hold of...seriously she could be a danger to you or your family.

OM, as to the "conspiracy" by all the legal recourses for NOT prosecuting those who YOU have FALSELY ACCUSED of wrong doing...Well, it seems to be quite simple-- They have not chosen to make any charges... BECAUSE your ACCUSATIONS were found to be INVALID-not supported by any basis in fact- Therefore not prosecutable!

So, moron tell the rest of us on the BB how incompetent and corrupt ALL those offices are again...ok! Idiot! Hey, try taking those letters to your attorney that loves to read the BB, maybe he can explain it to you. The rest of us were able to get it from the very few lines you quoted...such a moron. In my opinion, if I was your employer I would fire you too; for the lying trash you show yourself to be... how did that lawsuit go by-the-by... OH Yea, it was unfounded as well. public record, right.!

Back to the question OM. What is the current status of your petition? Those individuals who signed your petition will hardly remain anonymous through the process followed as their signatures are vetted. Unfortunately for your cause, perhaps many individuals who may have signed your petition are unwilling to be represented by you. Perhaps, in the best interest of your cause, you should turn your reigns over to another more capable of dealing with those whose opinions diverge from your own.

As far as samb and wayl are concerned, don't worry about them. They'll benefit from your experience and learn soon enough that they too may not be smart enough to be a real lawyer. They too may suffer from self loathing that is only aggravated by the success of those they have chosen to surround themselves with.

Nah, it's just you.

samb, you can tell us you are anything you want on here (your reality). With the things that you say, I doubt it. If you are, I feel sorry for anyone who crosses your path that has problems.

Glad to see you spelled "distain" (should have been disdain) correctly this time. With all of the psycho babble and mood swings and same words...you and good ole samb are 1 in the same.

Wow, 7 figures with your background! You can also make as much as you want in your own reality. You are a fraud in my reality.

Om

Glad you acknowledged my hard work and college days I do have a master degree in that particular field plus a few others. If you would not have deleted your blogs I could prove to you your lies and what you did post on here. But you do live in your own reality.

Lets all read the facts as posted by OM, as we all know they are not swayed with hatred and distain for the members of the boards of several organizations of the community. thanks for keeping it untrue and interesting.

Wow samb, you seem to be an expert on addictions and recovery. That explains things.

Thank you for the random acts of defamation on this public forum. I love to be painted as a dead beat (without proof or cause) because God knows that my business does not ever have to run on credit extended to me by local business owners or farmers. And God knows that "NOBODY" ever reads this. Thank you.

I NEVER said anything about bankruptcy samb. But you know that (truth just is not a trong point). See, in Idaho we have this neat little web page we can go to that pulls up most litigation on a person. Funny...no judgments or liens much less a suit AGAINST me or my spouse. Funny how truth and facts work and all of this right at our finger tips. But with you and your pal WAYL, truth just really is not what any of your spew is about.

WAYL/samb, since you misssed the "proof/facts" the first time, here it is again for ya!

On April 27, 2009 Mike Simpson responded to my letter to him regarding the WECRD and stated the following:

"...It is my responsibility to make sure your needs and views are known to the federal government. However, on local issues (the WECRD), like that mentioned in your letter, I have no jurisdiction."... (The letter is 4 paragraphs total).

Funny thing is, the reason I wrote to Simpson was because he supported appropriations for the WECRD. Also, the WECRD's HUD documents stated that the facility would be named after a SEATED Congressman. The "error/typo" has since been "corrected" by the WECRD but it was on the form and in print for all to see (of which I of course have a copy and was nice enough to point out to the WECRD as well as Simpson). Who would have thought that an elected official, for our area, could not be involved with local issues! We will have to remember that at election time.

Now, on to the AG issue yet again. On March 24, 2009, I received a letter from KRISS BIVENS CLOYD, Constituent Information Specialist, to AG Wasden regarding a letter to their office with respect to the WECRD. Her letter to me enclosed copies of the Idaho Open Meeting Law Manual which I stated I already had and cited sections of those "laws" in my letter to them.

Anyway, the second to last paragraph states the following:

..."You may wish to speak with the Elmore County Prosecuting Attorney regarding your concerns about alleged Open Meeting Law violations with the Western Elmore County Recreation District."...

Just because people who have the power to prosecute matters choose not to does not mean that laws are not being broken. It just means that people have made the choice to turn a blind eye and ignore unless of course it suits their political agenda (but when nobody will run against you in an election you can pretty much do what you want). Maybe if citizens got upset about it and put some pressure on, things like this would not happen and people would be held accountable. But it is much better to say shhhhhhhhhhhh and act like nothing is wrong and everything is GREAT in a community where we have been taxed for going on 9 years and have NOTHING but an over-priced weed patch to show for it and 1.3 million in the bank for anything BUT recreation! MY HOW LUCKY WE ARE!!!!

Hope you got all of the facts this time. However, I am sure you will say that I never gave you the info (even if it was posted on this here BB prior).

Most suits, once filed, are public record. Names become PUBLIC INFORMATION!!!! My, how fun.

Oh...she is on another bender! Pick a personality already and stick with it as I have a hard time knowing just who (or is that what) to respond to.

I told you who to contact at the AG's office and the date of their letter to me. Bet you never bothered to contact Tim Corder either. You shoot your mouth off with no facts WAYL. Are you off your meds or just plain ignorant?

Welcome back OM. We will all eagerly await your next set of lies. Too, bad you took your blog off, the proof of your latest lie was in those posts. You have stated that you would leave this town as soon as you could. "Never" was another lie. You are a bald faced liar, it has been proven over and over, by several person.

So to Samb, Yob and all those who comment on the post from this egomaniacal, self-proclaimed savior to the people... Consider the source. She talks out of her butt, where her head is at... so when she tries to pass of her lies as facts... speak up-prove her lies for what they are... The rest of her baloney is pure opinion for attention getting purposes only...feed the monkey if you will, I, for one, will slam her with the truth and prove again and again what a liar she is.

OM- So, how is the petition going, will we get to see it at the next voting scheduled in February? How are your criminal accusations against the elections office going? How about any of those accusation of wrong doing that you have made against anyone doing? sue anyone over work lately? such a liar... caught in your web of lies over and over and over. Truthfully, I actually pity you. What a sad life you must have.

YOB

once again you are told by a complete moron that you are wrong; you are not wrong the moron is just stating her opinion, and thinking what she thinks is the only way it could possibly be and pretending that it is a fact. And if anyone dares to question her slanted view point they are unable to comprehend anything that is going on and are complete IDIOTS, according to her. Must be nice to be so closed minded and one sided and have such a vendetta against an entire community, town, county, and state.

YOB it is not about OM caring about this place and the future of this place it is about her trying to control the people she hates with a passion, she has stated many times she can not wait to move out of the place once her husband retires from the Air Force. She has also stated she will not stay here, (only here for the money until retirement) my opinion, sure hope that is soon. Bring it on OM, EE, MSM AND THE REST OF YOUR CRONIES....... Ya all have a great weekend from this hick from the sticks, and proud of it.

"Thanksgiving Day comes, by statute, once a year; to the honest man it comes as frequently as the heart of gratitude will allow." ~Edward Sandford Martin

Happy Turkey Day!!!!

I need help catching up...

"So, if the CDLC is not part of the WECRD, why were ALL 3 Board Members at the meeting yesterday (the CDLC meeting)? Why did 1 sit at each table? Jana was to act as the go between for the 2 (the CDLC and the WECRD) and it was stated that she would be the ONLY Board Member present at the CDLC meetings. While I understand these are public meetings now, that would be like the ECC's going to a highly contested zoning hearing and listening to testimony only to have to hear and make a decision on the appeal." ------- I don't care you're logic for why the directors shouldn't have been there... it's a public meeting and I for one am very glad they care enough about what the CDLC is thinking/talking about to even show up and listen.

"The WECRD failed the test just like we thought they would. We knew if we said the petition was done they would go back to the way they were. Some of us lost bets and some of us won bets (re: how much time it would take them to behave badly). I knew they would never keep their word to the people. The proof was at the CDLC meeting this week. So, we continue to obtain signatures. Thank you Mollie, Marsha and Jana for again following through and remaining true to your core values. You have again proved my point for me." -----How exactly did they 'fail' this test?

Just a short note FYI, I was told a few days ago that the Mellen Hotel will have a new store. It will be an "old fashioned candy " store. Name of business & opening date to be announced soon. I beleive they are hoping to be open prior to Christmas. Happy Thanksgiving!

EE, wonderful poetry.

Happy Thanksgiving

This should be a happy day and instead it turned into a tragic day. It makes me so sad to read that a little girl traveling through our area with her family lost her life in a car accident just a few hours ago on I-84 I hope and pray that the Grandmother and the other Children will survive this nightmare ! Please take time and say a pray for this family.

I was reading the articles today and found the one about an accident on 84 at MP 114. My heart absolutely breaks reading it. Thanksgiving is scarred for this family. I'd like you all to read it and remember what is really important. We all have so much to be thankful for. This article is one to read and take a step back and realize our fortunes.

My prayers to the entire family of the little girl. And hugs and prayers to the little girl who has been lost.

Please join me.

Jessie

I have to stick my nose in; I'll probably get reamed for it...

Why does everybody have to put everyone else down? The few of you (SAS, EE & WAYL- but not limited to, there are plenty more who chime in) are all contradicting yourselves with your own comments: "Whenever you see those who are very critical of others, you are actually seeing people who do not like themselves" SAS, and "Yeah, you're so much better than everyone else on this BB, how is you fly down from you unearthly place to dispense such pleasantries with us mere mortals anyway... my oh my!" WAYL. Your all just arguing with yourselves and blaming others- like children do; you all get on a soap box and talk about how the other person is stupid, and ignorant or immature, but in turn everyone is acting the same. And, WAYL why don't you take your own advice and listen for the "pop."

"Don't fight with an ignorant person, the others watching may not be able to tell the difference..."- I cant and I'm related to one of you...

And I leave it at that, say what you will- I really don't care. :) Happy Holidays to all you Scrooges!

Wow people - Give it a rest! Happy Thanksgiving to all and many prayers for our troops absent from family gatherings tomorrow.

I am so very thankful for the Grammar Police, Spelling Police, and the Holier-than-thou sweetness delivered by the (to quote OM) "Hicks in the sticks" such as ourselves.

SAS, by your own definition: "Whenever you see those who are very critical of others, you are actually seeing people who do not like themselves; Psych. 101-the defense mechanism called "projecting".-- Posted by sas212 on Tue, Nov 24, 2009, at 5:12 PM"

You must REALLY love yourself! Or are you trying to say you're are above being critical of anyone? lol you are so funny.... hey by-the-by, I don't punctuate appropriately either... if I did what would you have to feel superior about? I feel the need to leave bread crumbs for your type. Do what I can for those in need. enjoy

Sas, who is your comment pointed to

yoB, you right on track with driving and the use of a cell phone, take it to whatever level you can to put a stop to it

I don't mean to completely be off topic here... but there is something I have been meaning to 'banter' about, and I finally have time.

There are some people in this town that say they care so much about this town and the people in it. But every time I see that person driving around town... they are talking on their cell phone. Now, I know this isn't illegal... yet. But still, if you really truly care about keeping everyone (and yourself for that matter) safe... you wouldn't talk on your phone. Now I have to be completely honest here, I have been guilty of this a total of 2 times since I have had my phone. I try my hardest not to talk on the phone while driving. It's just stupid. I urge everyone to just pull to the side of the road when you get a call, or have to make one.

Thanks for letting me banter!

haha ha EE showing your superior intellect. And here you are proof of the old story of when God was handing out brains you thought he said trains and decided not to take a trip. It is what it is shallow EE. Since you are being critical too, according to SAS's statements you don't like yourself either. Boy are we a club of self haters or what?!? lololol!

WAYL: Take a look in the mirror and see who does the most calling names and who thinks they know the most, talk about glass houses, you must keep all the glass people in business, as far as sas she told it like it is and you can't handle it dipstick. You and Samb don't even know what a dipstick is which is to check oil levels in your vehicle and when it comes to you 2 it is checking brain level and you both are low but no way can you refill a low brain level.

wow, SAS glad to see you using your education; however, the "101" def for projecting is as follows: Projecting- Psychology To externalize and attribute (an emotion or motive, for example) unconsciously to someone or something else in order to avoid anxiety.

Not sure your psychiatrist will agree with your statement or maybe he applied it to you. (sarcasm)

Every statement I make toward idiots such as OM or EE are made from a very conscious aware state of utter distain and dislike for the no-integrity liars they have shown themselves to be on this very site. They have ganged up and attacked many posters for the sin of disagreeing with their personal agendas.

So to educate you, I like myself very much! I HATE/Dislike those who act holier than thou after berating, belittling all the people they have done that too.

So, if you think I jump too hard on those idiots... it is what it is!

WOW, WAYL!! That's kind of harsh, don't you think?? You may not be a butt dweller, but something sure crawled up yours to make you so cranky!

Whenever you see those who are very critical of others, you are actually seeing people who do not like themselves; Psych. 101-the defense mechanism called "projecting".

Hey Eagle Eye - you live in a glass house. Throw some more stones moron. You too may benefit by listening for the loud pop... just a suggestion.

Your false compliments are plain for all to see.

Yeah, you're so much better than everyone else on this BB, how is you fly down from you unearthly place to dispense such pleasantries with us mere mortals anyway... my oh my!

I guess it is better to be trash than a butt dweller.

fyi - your opinions mean nothing in my world. I sleep well at night with my head on my pillow, unlike you and your crony whose heads are so far up you own butts you both can't see daylight.

A good way to support the troops during the holidays, as we should the whole year, let them know we care where they are and what they are doing.

http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home1280.ht...

I am sooo Thankful that this week is almost over! Then I can practically smell my house full of good Holiday type scents. I will be a pie making machine starting tomorrow. I am lucky enough to get to have 3 Thanksgiving meals. Two of them are at my home, so that is an additional blessing. The other at my sisters' home, which is bigger. But all in Mtn. Home, so only a few of us have to drive. For them and for all of your friends and family that have to travel, I will pray for safe roads to and from your destinations.

Does anyone have an exciting vacation planned coming up? I know some that have done cruises this time of year, which is one of my favorite type of vacations. If you do go somewhere, don't forget your camera!

I wish a genuine Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Be Safe.

Jessie

OM ... still waiting to hear the loud pop! hint pull hard and you head just may come out.

We shall all pray for you.

I am thankful for freedom of ideas, the ability to disagree; yet I am most for family, kindness and love.

I do hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving full of family and happiness. Even you OM.

Just a reminder---the Mayor and CC would love to hear your feelings on this. If they do not know how people feel they have to go with the popular vote which could make people less than happy.

Just a question if it is the popular vote does it not make it what the majority of the people want. So if the Mayor and CC go against the popular vote, will it not make more of the people unhappy? So the statement that was made by a certain person; implying that the minority should rule, bull, that is not what this country is suppose to be about.

Duh, I really don't know why I bother any more this is out to lunch.

I agree with you EE I wonder all the time why you bother also? So a conversation about Wood stoves and pellet stoves and people having memories of good times bothers you!!!!! I think it is great that so many fond memories are being shared.

I have had both wood stoves and pellet stoves and a pellet stove is the best if you are over 40 or so yrs old, a lot less work and mess. Even though pellets have gone up in price, BIG TIME, in the last 3 yrs if you can not go cut your own wood it is cheaper then burning wood at $175 a cord.

Have a great Day

I have until this last year, lived alone for the last ten years. In that time, though I did have a wood stove, I rarely used it. Like OM said, (or someone said) there is a lot of up keep to it. I just wasn't thinking it was something I wanted to deal with. I have several animals, and work a full time job, while wanting to spend time with my kids and grand kids, so it was just one more thing to take up my time. I knew it would save me money though. I probably keep the house around 65. This year, I no longer live alone, and now we use the wood stove again. It was already in place, and is very efficient. It will save me at least a $100.00 per month on the heat bill. Probably more. I am soooo relieved about this! As Traci says, there is nothing like wood heat. It feels good and wonderful to stand next to after being out in the cold! I even cook on it from time to time. I also keep a pot of water steaming on it, with cinnamon sticks in it for fragrance....... Can't ya just smell it?

Happy first day of the week of Thanksgiving everyone!

Jessie

Acomment,

Thanks for the info! I will take out bag o food to Albertson's this week.. Guess I missed the info on last weekend! :)

Pellet stove advantage is it provides an abundance of heat like a wood stove but you can shut it off within a few minutes. Try doing that to an overheated wood stove. Modern pellet stoves are controlled by a thermostat. They are easy to clean. They burn very clean and may qualify to keep on even under red flag smog conditions. Cons are bags of pellets weigh 40 lbs,and get more expensive every year.

midea:

We have heated with a pellet stove for years now (and 3 houses). We have a Quadra Fire and use Lignetics pellets. It used to be cheaper to heat with the pellets but since Katrina hit (where some of the pellet makers are) it is not any cheaper. I think it may even be more expensive. You can get pellets on sale at D & B (or other places in town) and it is cheaper to buy them by the pallet than by the bag (when on sale). The bags are heavy and hard to handle and the pellets must be stored and kept dry. Our stove will hold 1 bag at a time. When it is really cold we can go through 2-3 bags a day (1 at night while we sleep). We normally buy 3-4 pallets of pellets for a season and normally have 25 bags left at the end of winter (which get you through the cooler spring months when some places are out of pellets). We have a 1,300 SF house and keep it at 68-70. This year, we are using the furnace because the cost of pellets has gone up and we do not save using 1 or the other at this point. We do not leave the pellet stove on when we are not home, we run the furnace.

The good thing about the pellet stove is that it is hot heat where a heat pump is cooler heat and really does not warm a person up (me anyway) like wood heat does. It is dusty to run a pellet stove and you have pellets to clean up every now and then. The stove also has to be cleaned on a very regular basis to keep things operational. There is a rod that needs to be pulled on the pellet stove as well and if the unit is not kept really clean...it can be really hard to pull. I do love to watch the fire in the pellet stove and sit in front of the blower when I am cold (nothing warms like wood heat). A pellet stove is also considered to be very low emission unlike wood so it is better for the environment and uses lumber waste for fuel. There are some days in this state where due to air quality they ask that people not burn wood (which can be hard if that is your only form of heat). I think we paid $2,400 for our stove 7-8 years ago but I have a "special" finish on mine. They do come cheaper than that I think. The lumber yard on Airbase Road (with the horse in front) sells them and repairs them. You can install them yourself in a few hours (if you wanted to).

Hope that helped.

We used to have a wood stove, had it for many years and we loved it. It keeps the house much warmer then electric or gas. When we got up in the morning we would make a fire and then throw wood on it all day long until we went to bed. It will cut your heat bill down. Draw back is wood is messy and you have to clean the stove and pipe often.

I enjoyed the spliting of the wood, it brought the family together

Can anyone tell me why the boyscouts in this county were not out scouting for food? Hubby and I left a huge bag of food items out on our porch; they are still there! This day was the country-wide scouting for food day, and this was the first year nothing was picked up!

Ms Marilyn. We set ours at off. We use a wood stove for heat for the most part, and we both like it cool in the evenings: as in.... window open and bedroom door shut to keep the cold from the rest of the house. I might use the furnace a couple times a month, for various reasons. Love the heat of a wood stove. Hate the expense of anything else.

Jessie

Curious to know what you set your thermostats at before going to bed. We set ours at 60

Today I am thankful that so many young men and women are either home from college or on their way home for Thanksgiving break. I am thankful that so many of them have sent me messages to let me know they are excited to be coming home to their friends and family. Please assure them safe trips home and where ever they go.

Jessie

So for all the hyperbole by the CLDC, the the WRECD board has seeded the CLDC with volunteers and hand picked disciples. So much for a open and honest process. Hey don't look now but it's Obama transparency. I'm just surprised that the board members didn't hijack the meeting completely and start banging the gavel when they didn't like what was being said. But that would have required a quorum and would have been an official meeting under open meeting law. Oh wait a minute, there WAS a quorum and they WERE doing WRECD business. Hmmm? Seems like there was an open meeting law defined meeting of the WRECD board last night. There just wasn't any agenda posted or a record of it. It hearkens back to those golden days of yesteryear,(a couple months ago), when the WRECD board made their predetermined decisions in a secret smoky back room. The only question left is whether or not there is anyone on this shame(CLDC) that wasn't hand picked by the WRECD board.

outtahere, you are right---nobody is reading or listening to the blah-blah-blah. That must be why my phone has rang 9 times in the last hour with people asking me what is going on. Let us not forget the 5 emails I have had today either. I guess that "nobody" is you but then again you did reply.

The WECRD failed the test just like we thought they would. We knew if we said the petition was done they would go back to the way they were. Some of us lost bets and some of us won bets (re: how much time it would take them to behave badly). I knew they would never keep their word to the people. The proof was at the CDLC meeting this week. So, we continue to obtain signatures. Thank you Mollie, Marsha and Jana for again following through and remaining true to your core values. You have again proved my point for me.

Same ole blah blah blah...no one is listening. No credibility. Laughable. Self important hick from the stick. I've gotten past the disdain and just feel sorry for you.

Absolutely correct, WAYL. Just her opinions. Nothing more.

Does anyone have any info on an explosion from late wednesday night? i was on base on the flight line and me and my friend saw the sky light up so bright you could see to the south mountains in the middle of the night. it seems unlikely it was lightning this time of year?

Thank you for the information regarding the meeting Traci. This is what I mean by "There is such intelligence from the posters here. I've learned alot from this forum. Kudos to them."

I appreciate the info that you bring here.

Jessie

Thanks WAYL!

You are right about how humbling children/Grand children can be. My daughter and sons still say and do things that make me pause and think "How lucky am I to have such wonderful people who are my Children?" My daughter and my oldest son are raising young children now, and I'm proud to say (and Thankful to know) that they are raising them with values and with respect. Those children know they are loved, and that it is expected of them to be respectful. It is a pleasure to have any of them come spend the day and or night. I am thankful that they are raising them to know they are loved and have someone to depend on no matter what....Unconditionally....

Thanks again for joining in.

Jessie

Nope, Outta, it can happen. You and I can start it, and I betcha others will join right in. I have a Face Book page, and one of the things that is going on there, is everyone is trying to say one positive thing on a Daily Basis. IE: Today I am thankful for........

Today I am Thankful for having been raised in a family where there was no doubt we were all loved and had someone we could depend on, no matter what. Unconditionally.

Join me in Thanks

Jessie

Outta.... I guess that's what they took it to mean, though I didn't mean .....uh... yes I suppose I did. My Mom always said if you can't say anything nice...don't say anything at all. It has held with me. I love the friendly banter we get sometimes, and I really look forward to it.

My thought on the 'mud slinging' is simple. Don't do it. There are things said on here that just make me grit my teeth, or shake my head at the idiocy, but I don't wanna add to it by dignifying it with a response. It would only be me belittling myself by joining in. As they belittle one another. That would not do myself justice. It's hard to keep our mouth/fingers shut but sometimes you just have to. There is such intelligence from the posters here. I've learned alot from this forum. Kudos to them. I wish disappointment hadn't come along with that. I know we can do better!!! I'm not much for name calling or yelling and fighting anyway, but if I even think of it, I just remember my Mom and Dad read this. I'd be mortified to have said some of the stuff said on here, and they saw it. I'm somewhat mortified that they see it from people they know anyway.

Today I ask everyone to join me in a goal of having a 'Friendly Banter Box' and using it as it was meant to be used. I'm not na*ve and think that there aren't going to be issues that get heated from time to time, but let's do it in adult type behavior.

Today also, I'd like to say that I'm proud to live in Mtn. Home, and call this my "Home Town Community". This is a friendly small town, and I have no plans on going anywhere. I am offended at how it's been spoken of and described.

Happy Positive Thursday and Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Go out and do a Random Ac t of Kindness.... You'll feel better!

I will get off my soap box.... Since no one asked anyway.

Jessie

I haven't been reading the Bander box lately because I was tired of the hatred. Logged on today and was sadly disappointed.

Thanks for the laugh Beau!

So very very disappointed. I thought this might be getting better. The childish name calling is absolutely ridiculous.

Jessie

Stinger,

You can count ME as one of those PEOPLE that DID sign the petition and DOES want to see the whole expensive disaster shut down. The petition "I" signed had a whole buttload more than "ten" signatures so unless you are going to now start accusing ACORN of running the petition I am thinking someones count is way off LOL...

Have a nice day :-)

~~~~~~ Beau ~~~~~~

So funny!! You never disappoint!! :)

A woman was walking through her new house with the contractor. As they walked through rooms, she told him what color she wanted him to paint each room. In the bedroom she said, "I think this would be nice in a cream." The contractor stuck his head out of the window and yelled, "GREEN SIDE UP!" This perplexed the woman. They moved to the living room and she said, " I would love rose in this area." Again the contractor strolled over to the window and yelled, "GREEN SIDE UP!" Again the woman was confused but did not say anything. As they walked into the kitchen she proudly announced that she wanted this room to be, " a glorious shade of mauve." Once again the contractor went to the window and yelled,"GREEN SIDE UP!" Finally she could not stand this anymore. "What are you shouting GREEN SIDE UP out every window of this house?" He replied,"I'm sorry. I have a crew of U of Idaho students laying sod across the street."

If the attourney said not to bring it on the banter box can you tell me what has changed? It's on the banter box now. One would assume that means that your attourney has failed and you are free from the restriction that he put on you. Or the attourney thing is just a big blast of hot air. I'll put my money on the latter.

LogicRedundancy

You must be new to this. You have a lot to learn the almighty OM is god and speaks no evil or spews no hatred. HER WORDS ARE KIND AND PLEASANT ( read the last few posts from her). How dare you confront or question her integrity, you will soon be in the same class as me, the one and only who keeps the hatred and ill mannered words going on here. OM IS NEVER RUDE OR MEAN she only speaks the truth and presents FACTS,,,, !!!!NOT!!!. BE READY for the cronies to gang up on you, Old man will be back soon I see eagle eye has made a return, welcome back and Ms M is always around. We will see; the February vote will tell it all IF THAT HAPPENS. I WONDER WHO WILL GIVE A BAD DATE TO THEM THIS TIME. Or what mysterious person is withholding signatures then. I wonder how that person got the forms back since the only reason they were not turned in for the November vote was bad info given to them by the county about the deadline date?????????????????????????????? Looks like the real truth will never be known, but there is enough support to dispute the lies told on here . OM go talk to your lawyer a little more, seams that for being told to keep your mouth shut, THAT DID NOT WORK.............. Once again you start the drama then cry when you get opposition. LOGICRED Just in case you are a new comer she has removed her past blogs, so she can deny and tell people to prove what they are saying. She has opposed everything as far as improvements goes in this community (nuclear plant, cheese factory, base expansion, and many other projects, even complained about an emergency response building.) You all have a field day; and God bless America and the freedom of speech......!

Hey Samb

I enjoy my dogs and they have better manners then you do. woof ! woof ! They know when to shut up !

Logic, you're awesome. Thanks for saying it.

There is an attorney, in Boise, who is working on the signature issue at MY EXPENSE---not the expense of you lazy folks who sit on your butts behind a computer and complain. The signature issue came to light shortly after it was announced that "my" group had "missed" the deadline to hand in the signatures. Since that time, the attorney has talked to the person and sent letters. The reason that I did not come on the BB and announce this was because the attorney told me not to. He said it would just make a bad situation worse, which I believe it would have.

There is a way to handle this and it is NOT outing this person so that a bunch of cross burners can go and hunt the person down. There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with this and while you may not agree---it will be handled through legal channels and dealt with the way the attorney has told me to do it. There were many people who knew of the problem and ALL of us were attempting to deal with it within the letter of the law to avoid a situation such as this one on the BB.

The bottom line is this folks. Nobody wants to help other than 3 (new to "the group") members of the community. They have agreed to work on obtaining more signatures to get this done and handed in on time. This was NOT supported with any taxpayer money and all of us who have dedicated a TON of time to this did so on our own. We have way more than "10 signatures" and have done the best that a VERY SMALL group of people could do. It is more than most of the rest of you have done. I have NEVER lived with a more worthless, thankless, mean, nasty, ignorant, mentally castrated, impotent bunch of people in my life. Some "COMMUNITY" we live in. Imagine a group of people being outraged over being taxed for NOTHING for over 8 years. IMAGINE?!?!?! Had it not been for a small group of people with some common sense----YOUR TAXES WOULD HAVE BEEN RAISED THIS YEAR FOR THIS SHAM!!! You can all get bent.

OM, sorry to hear that you broke your leg. Hope you feel better soon. I thought I would say something nice as what is on BB is so nasty. Wow!

Well maybe you can explain why you would even turn them in if there is not enough. What, you gave your word? Word to collect 10 signatures and then turn them in. What a cluster. Whats the point? What about all the "resign now" BS and all the talking smack about having enough signatures? When did you find out that this mythological signature hoarder wasn't going to give them to you? Yesterday? If you were even close you would go out and get the rest of them or have your little minions on here nestle at your feet and pay homage to the wise and powerful OZ, I mean OM. It was an empty threat all along and now we've seen behind the curtain.

I was just about to say be prepared it's time for wayl and samb to reappear and bingo there's samb....lol !

Wow OM, if its not one thing its another with you........A person that is that toxic should consider a Total-detox!!!!

Om---thank you for hiding your friend. I am sorry to all the people who signed the the petation and now your name won't count as a comittee person will not turn in our names.

OM..Please dont tell me you are not turning in the signutes.. You have been telling us all along you have enough but wanted to get extra ones.. I signed that and I want to see it turned in.. You and your group missed the sept date and promise many of people you would have it in by Dec.. You need to keep that word to those of us who signed that petation. You need to list the person name who has the petation and will not turn it over so those who signed it can go aand sign another one somewhere else. You and your group own this information to those of us who want it on the ballot.. YOu started this so don't hide this person out > I KNOW I WANT TO KNOW INCASE MY NAME IS ON IT.

Or...........the petition was never even close to having enough signatures and it was all a big bluff. Whoops, didn't know what durn day to hand it in fur the November lection. Whoops, some guy dun run off with the durn peoples signatory thingys. Whoops, broke ma laig and didn't say I was short of signatory signators til a couple days fore I was a needin to turn it in for da Febrary lection. Whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops.

Petition update. Someone else from "my" group was supposed to do this and has not so here it goes.

We have a "fine" member of our community who obtained signatures for the petition and is now not willing to surrender said signatures. We have attempted to obtain these signatures over the last 2 months to no avail.

Unless there are people out there who are willing to help---and fast---this will not be voted on.

I have a broken leg and am not able to go door to door in any great numbers at this point. Time is short and that is the scoop. If anyone can help, great. If not...enjoy those taxes and reckless disregard for YOUR money.

Have a great weekend.

I am happy to see the improvements in Railroad Park. The new clock, meandoring sidewalks, and benches will be a nice addition to Mountain Home. This will create a nice landscaped green space for both residents and visitors. Thanks to the Urban Renewal District for your vision!

I would like to echo Old Guy's words. Thank you to the Vets and Active members of our Military for our protection.

God Bless You All.

Jessie

It is cold outside. They want to come in and get warm.

President Obama pulls the plug on Yucca Mountain...

Set aside whether you like Nuclear Power or not, no one wants nuclear waste in their backyard but the reality is high level fuel rods are in everyones backyard! Located at over 100 sites across the country, in locations never intended for long term storage. The govt has been taking billions of dollars to study Yucca Mountain from utilities which is actual ratepayers and now they shut it down with no viable alternative?

Nye County is considered the most impacted county with Beatty Nevada the closest town of mention. I lived there for about 10 years. PETT(payments equal to taxes) has been flowing for years. Imagine a land area this remote, with no rivers or lakes nearby, adjacent to the Nuclear Test Site which has controlled airspace and access.

The science has shown it as a good location.

Compare that to lets say, the Columbia River 40 miles downstream of Portland Oregon. That is where the fuel rods from Trojan sit.

Why? To reelect Senator Harry Reid? To appease the left wing of the Democratic Party?

It is absurd, irresponsible and beyond the pale.

Sorry for the rant just give some thought

I want to thank anonymous donor for the rings donated to the girls basketball team. It is heartwarming to read of things like that. There was also a very gracious Thank You in the letters to the Editor today. That also is good to see. Thanks to everyone involved!

Jessie

I have been sitting here trying to think of a positive post but after the tragic events of the day at Fort Hood, I just cannot come up with anything. It is tragic that now the military have to worry about their well being while on station. Normally a military member feels safe and secure while on station in the CONUS but that beleif has now been shattered. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those stationed on Ft Hood and their families. I ask that you do the same.

This was interesting and could be good news for some depending on how you look at it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_homebuyers...

Bluebird77

I think you got yourself a story. This time of year with hunters out exploring the land and camping would be very interesting. Just talked to my neighbor last night and he was so happy that his wife went hunting with him. I would love to hear your thoughts about hunting and what others might have to say. I bet there's a lot of story's to be told

I've been looking foward to reading more blogs from some of our bloggers Sandra Sessions, Tim Wilcox, Karen Preston,TJ Tranchell and Robin Riger..... lets blog !

Does anyone know if MH is going to have another H1N1 clinic?

I went to the Haunted Mellen Hotel on Sat. and it was fun. I think that they did a great job in all the rooms and the monsters, ghouls, ghosts and mad crazy people who jumped out the darkest were wonderful. Thanks for giving us a good scare and the candy was good too.

2timer,

What a great heartwarming story. The Glenns Ferry football team is showing support for a teammate and fellow classmate.

This is the staff of Mt Home News.. Why is this article in a paper from a different county? When I look at the map, Glenns Ferry is in ELMORE county not Twin Falls county. In my opinion, if anyone on this team had done something wrong you would have been all over it but let them do something great, which they have and you totally ignore it.

Once again, thanks to 2timer for pointing out that these fine young men are doing something good for the community and are showing the rest of the sports world how to act. My hat is off to each and everyone of you.

Hey Old Guy I was there too maybe I seen you but didn't know it was you. lol ! I could of even talked to you because I am very friendly and talk to strangers all the time. Anyways power was restored before we left the store.

Sorry Beau

I wasn't trying to be rude or offensive to anyone. Sorry I asked, and guess I shouldn't have. I will figure some other way to deal with it.

By the way sometimes a 1-12 grade education is better than further education. So don't knock yourself.

Sorry midea, I cannot help you out with the answer that you seek. You see I'm a born and raised Idahoan with only the benefit of a 1-12 public school education. As it has been stated on this very BB, I am too ignorant to possibly know the answer to your most complex question.

Go fish.

OM,

Thanks for relaying the message from Ms. Sellers. Next time you chat with her, let her know I only went off what they posted in the minutes from their last meeting:

"The Domestic Violence Council Fundraiser was discussed. Director Borgholthaus made a

motion then withdrew the motion in favor of a motion by Director Sellers. Director Sellers

made a motion to build a basket of necessities including a Foundation [RFEC] blanket to

donate to the Domestic Violence Council's fundraiser. Director Borgholthaus seconded the

motion. A vote was taken with all three Directors in favor of the motion. Motion carried."

No where in there does it say Ms. Sellers paid for anything and in fact one would say the WECRD paid for the RFEC blanket. Guess they did not and Ms. Sellers paid for everything. At least according to her. Enough said.

I hope everyone has a great weekend and good luck to the hunters out there. Be safe, know your target and come home safe.

WOW. Our first "little" bit of snow. Not pretty yet, but give it a little more time. How exciting.

However (in correct) is incorrect.

Look out Beau, someone is going to get you over spelling, I know you wanted to type in town instead of down, but have to be careful around here so many just looking for a reason to jump on someone lol.

I know a very good family who went to rent a storage room from the storage place on Air Base Road yesterday and were turned away. The storage place refused to rent to them because one of the boys "peeled" out of the parking lot when is actuality he was trying to avoid a car that almost hit him. I think it was very unfair and rude especially when they did not have all the facts. if they can refuse to rent a storage room for that reason, what other reasons are they giving out there to cherry pick their customers? I won't be using them either and I plan to tell all my friends and family not to use them.

"Public Hearing

When: Monday, November 2, 4:00 p.m.

Where: Commissioners Room, 150 S. 4th East, Mtn. Home

Description:

Growth & Development Fees"

Does anyone know, are they RAISING fees again?

Whats the point on reading any articles, I have read alot of them and between CDC, Doctors, and the News what are we suppose to believe. Every story seems to say something different over the H1N1 flu. Keeps changing who should get the shot and if its as bad as we are let to believe then everyone should have the shot, so someone needs to get their act to together over the flu. Its very clear to me that the CDC doesn't have a clue on whats up with H1N1 flu or who should get the shot. Only my spinion, and everyone has one.

They Call the Wind ..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmvwCpcZ...

Oooooops. That was 31.5! Dang it...thought it was Weds. I am ready for the weekend.

I was so moved when I watched this that I have to share it. I hope everyone else is able to feel the pride, joy, and spirit I felt in this song. It is just beautifully done.

http://www.bornagainamerican.org/index.h...

For those asking about Winger's grand opening, the web site say's it is due to open Monday, 7 Dec.

this is a good article that the AP put out. I was a little surprised to see this in the AP News.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2009102...

So Wingers, when are you going to open???? I cant wait to eat those wings. Also, when are you hiring? I have a student that really needs a job for college. I think you guys will be a asset to MH.

I tried out Maria's Mexican Grill last night. I think it is my favorite mexican restaraunt in MH. It is where Los Primos used to be. I think everyone should give it a try. They make some awesome Tortas and Enchiladas.

Wingers-

In response to the Wingers comments and them not having fair bidding. VERY UNTRUE. That project went out to bid. They even asked other bidders if they knew of MH contractors that would be interested.

We are on the project, and we know several others that on this job. Datum has been working very hard to insure that they have used as many locals as possible even if they were higher.

And why if we are locals wouldn't our bid be lower, there is no mob charge. But hey, we lost a bid the other day in town to a company out of town. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. We bid all over the northwest and we do jobs out of town and even take our local boys to do the work.

Happy Positive Thursday to all.

If you want to enjoy your Positive Thursday, in a positive way, I suggest you make a trip the Manhattan Bistro. I went there for the second time yesterday and not only was the food as excellent as the first time but the staff was cheerfull and attentive to our large group. I hope that this business continues to grow as they do an outstanding job all around.

Idaho Fish and Game seek information about wasted elk near Mountain Home

http://www.idahostatesman.com/outdoors/s...

Idaho Department of Fish and Game is seeking information about a wasted bull elk dumped off Hot Creek Road east of U.S. 20 just north of the Pilot truck stop in Mountain Home.

The carcass was probably dumped before Oct. 14. No meat was removed from it, but the antlers were removed and the ivory teeth taken.

F&G Conservation Officer Bob Sellers of Mountain Home suspects the meat may have started to spoil and the perpetrator dumped the animal.

Anyone with information can call Sellers at (208) 587-1644 or the Citizens Against Poachers hotline at (800) 632-5999.

OM,

The County is not having a Christmas Party this year FYI.....Its a FACT!

Thats why we need new people on the school board to bring the schools into the future. They need to use our taxes wisely and not just look at the lowest bid but who would do the better job. I wish I had all that money to spend on how I would like it.

hmmmmmm funny I live out in the county and I have seen on different occasions the ambulance out here and fire trucks......Don't they fall into emergency services?

Oh wait...my all about me ego/agenda is on a role tonight! Many are on about why we do not shop local, spend local, support local businesses, etc. Well, I myself have a local electrician (who is just great), plumber (who is just great), excavation person (who is just great), heating/AC guy (who is just great 24/7), vet (who is just great), etc. Why is it that the MHSD elects to bring in a plumbing company from Boise as opposed to obtaining the services of a local company and contracting with them? Just wondering. I as a tax payer would rather keep MY tax dollars local and support the local folks than give to a company from Boise. The business people here are hungry for work. Why send it out of the area? Just wondering. Wow 2 new topics in 1 night! My what a wonderful life.

The mayor has elected to shop local. Others should follow his lead maybe. Charity begins at home. If we do not do more to keep local business---they will leave. Choices are good while "monopolistic competition" is not. Sorry in advance to anyone who may be bored, offended, generally ticked off, not concerned, or could just really care less about anything and everything. Sucks to be you.

If anyone feels my previous comment was directed at them, then more than likely it was. I try not to single out people on this BB and try to keep things civil. I am not saying I always succed but at least I am trying. I remember a phrase my wonderful Mom used to say, treat others how you would want them to treat you. She is a very wise lady and those words have served me well over the years. Hoepfully some out there take this to heart and try to do a better job when communicating on their thoughts and feelings on here. I say, type it, read it, re-read it, re-read it then let it sit for a few and re-read it again BEFORE you submit it.

KCP11 hit the nail on the head. Way to go !!!

OLD GUY sorry I should have done that with out the 2nd through 6th words in that statement. If I would have not used those words, would what I wrote been acceptable? I hope you were not refering to me about more then those 4 words.

OM why is WAYL integrity in question your own posts were prsented to you for review. Showing how you twist things around. Thanks for bring up the Nuclear plant I won the $500 pool at my gathering place.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

Here is a mirror for you OM. Your typical argument based on your NEED to further your personal vendetta... at 7:21 you state that taxpayers are being "forced" to support police presence at the hair brained idea of the WECRD. Then at 10:28 the next morning you say what the REAL REASONS are for the police presence. This is an indication of your integrity... NONE.

"That is like the taxpayers of Elmore County being forced to pay for police services for WECRD "events" time and time again. Taxpayers should not be forced to support hair brained ideas/scams, etc.-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Oct 19, 2009, at 7:21 PM "

"Regarding the need for police "protection" at events. I do not attend those events, never have, so it is unlikely that I am the reason/need for police. The real reason for the police, is to direct traffic, etc. so that nobody is hit by a car, etc. -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Oct 20, 2009, at 10:28 AM"

And here is PROOF of how you lie to suit your purpose. According to post after post from you; you have attend almost all of the WECRD meetings over the last few years, at least; as well as several other "events" hosted by them. So here is your most recent lie quoted again "I do not attend those events, never have" liar liar liar liar liar... caught again!!!!!!!! You really are a piece of work.

OG, I applaud you for trying to remain above the fray. This BB is OM's personal platform for her shallow ego, plain and simple. As to personal attacks... OM is reaping what she has been sowing for many many many years.

samb:

This is just how little you know. The WECRD charges for copies. So, I PAY for any and ALL copies that I obtain from them. As a matter of fact, BEFORE they had a copy charge, I paid for copies. So, I do not cost YOU or the taxpayers a single dime with regard to the WECRD. As far as how much I cost the taxpayers when I have met with board members---NOT ONE DIME! They "volunteer" to do what they do/do not do...so, no tax dollars spent there. On another note, I pay taxes to this organization. If I want to meet with them and obtain information and ask questions, I will as it is my right.

Regarding the need for police "protection" at events. I do not attend those events, never have, so it is unlikely that I am the reason/need for police. The real reason for the police, is to direct traffic, etc. so that nobody is hit by a car, etc.

As for the notice that was taken down...it was removed from the front window at the budget meeting----NOT that morning as Chuckie stated or the minutes indicate. As a matter of fact, Mollie saw the notice in the window that night because she and I had looked at it, together, that night along with several other people. So, clearly, it was in the window that night. As for what it cost you samb for me to remove that notice and ask for a copy...I paid the .30 cents for my copies so it cost YOU nothing.

Any copies that I have handed out to people on this group have been paid for by ME! I have paid for over $800.00 in copies for this. Not a single dime of taxpayer money has been used, by me, to dissolve this WRECK. That is how much you know samb. Try to base your next post on facts and reality.

If you are ignorant enough to make the statements you have then you deserve to be taxed to the fullest extent of the law for a facility that will NEVER be able to sustain itself as proposed by the WECRD. I will laugh 10 years down the road when I read the letters to the paper and people are pissing and moaning about what the facility, as currently proposed (according the their web site), costs to use/join, run and maintain. I will laugh. Ignorance is bliss for some. Enjoy!

Pooh,

I have no plans to stop making posts. I just wish that some would realize the result of their actions and that not everything has to be about one topic. I have said it in the past, personal attacks do nothing to aide a cause but instead detract from a cause. Thanks for your kind words.

I regret asking for people's thought on an event like the ballon boy. I now see that some will not let other issues alone and will continue to bring them up even if they have not relevance to the question asked. And others will use the BB to continue to make personal attacks. I had the illusion that the BB was for public conversation about ALL topics but that is not the case. I keep trying to logically discuss many topics but we keep ending rehashing the same topic with the same personal attacks occuring. While I understand that this one topic is a very important one to many, it is not the only topic and there are more civilized ways to debate a topic than mudslinging and personal attacks. It is a shame and a disgrace (IMHO) that these events keep happening on here. If both parties want to continue to go down this path, it would be nice if they would just meet in a public debate, have it out once and for all. I do regret if this offends anyone but you have offended me when I asked for your opinions about one topic and yet you revert back to a totally different topic and then personally attack someone. Thanks for being so civil and polite to all of us.

OM you piece of crap why does everything have to come to you saying something negitive and off subject? Like you have not cost us tax payers any money? How many copies have you requested and how many hours of the board members time have you wasted? And oh yea the ripping the papers off the buliten board how much did that cost us? As far as the police needing to be there that is to protect them from the likes of you. In my opinion......THANKS FOR RAISING MY TAXES

OG, here are my 2 cents on BB from Colorado (since you asked). His parents should be charged and they should have to pay the costs. A "hoax" on that level is criminal. 2-3 hours of national TV...over a hoax. AND...CPS should be involved, IMHO. "Normal" people do not do things like that. It is not a good example to set for their children and sends a bad message (again, my opinion only). I hope that those parents get some help. Maybe Wife Swap will help them out with that or Dr. Phil. Why should taxpayers have to pay for that? That is like the taxpayers of Elmore County being forced to pay for police services for WECRD "events" time and time again. Taxpayers should not be forced to support hair brained ideas/scams, etc.

Ok so let's do an informal poll about the ballon boy.

A. Should parents face crimal charges?

B. Should parents be made to pay back all costs?

C. Should children be removed from the home?

D. Did you believe the reports when it first happened?

Let me know what you think.

Yes the Animal Shelter........

Does anyone know if we have a shelter Manager?

Another Resident,

Missed your ? about Wingers. The resturant is going in near KFC and Jack-n-Box. If you are not sure where that is, it is north of the interstate above Wal-Mar. Everyone knows where Wal-Mart is. LOL

On a different note-- I have been so busy with college I have not had much time to do research on this so I was hopeing someone here might know and be able to help my curiosity LOL

On Hacker and 8th street (next to movie theater and behind McDonalds) there has been construction going on. Does anyone know what is going in this field? By what appears to be a large square for a foundation going in, I have wondered if this is where they are going to put the wind turbine, or is there a new building going on?

While I am asking, I know for awhile there was a lot of talk of the new Wingers... does anyone know where that will be in town?

THANK YOU in advance for anyone who might know this info!!

Here's my 2 cents.......For all we know the girl herself could of been telling her friends that she had an awful home life........that's what teens do complain complain until they get out on their own and reality sets in......

yoB:

Do you know her and her family? "She ran away because she had a bad home life." "Bad" because of rules? "Bad" because her mother set ground rules? "Bad" because she had chores to do and had to help with dinner? "Bad" because her parents felt she should do her homework? "Bad" because her parents may not have approved of her friends?

yoB, I found your last comments to be a bit, how shall I say it, offensive. First, I know her parents. They are good people---both of them. "Bad home life?" Wow! What a stretch on your part.

The problem with MANY (that was MANY not all) children these days is that they have a sense of entitlement without working for things. I want a car---so I get a car. I do not have to work---my parents give me money and anything I want, etc. When a parent/parents have rules or standards, kids feel they have a "bad home life" because things are expected of them. IMAGINE THAT!! Parents who want their children to be productive members of society. What a "BAD" life indeed.

If she is still indeed in town, the person/persons who has/have made the choice to hide this young girl are guilty of a crime and will probably be prosecuted for doing so. To hide a runaway is a crime.

I hope they find her soon. Her entire family is very worried and wants her back home. This is not the case of a kid that "nobody" cares about. Leave it to the police to determine how "bad" her home life is as opposed to this blog. Just my HO.

"So...I have a call in to the Chief, who is in a meeting, but I wonder if a search party or 2 will be formed to look for the missing girl. Sure would be great to get her back home safe."

I highly doubt it. While this is a sad story, a search party wouldn't do much. (I talked to a MHPD officer at the Homecoming game)It is believed by the police that her friends have been hiding her. Also that she ran away because she had a bad home life. I know that the cops were hopeful that she would attend the homecoming game.

OG - Per the Statesman game last night was Nampa 27, Mountain Home 23.

OM - You're very welcome. I figured I might as well post the info since I have it handy. I'm starting to wonder if I should just post the original proposal considering how misleading some are trying to be about it. *eye roll* The WECRD board should have a copy and be more upfront (honest) about sharing the details. If not, I could certainly dig up the original. ;O)

samb - The baseball organization is Elmore County Youth Baseball, or ECYB. Their mailing address is PO Box 475 here in Mtn Home. You may contact the president of the board, David Freer, at 599-1164 if you have any questions or concerns.

It is true he asked for money from the rec board but it was not for his program alone. He asked them to consider setting aside a portion of their budget to help fun local youth RECREATION groups that are already successfully established but could use more financial assistance to make sure ALL youth could participate. The 10% was a mere suggestion, not a specific request, and it would have been towards ALL youth rec programs, not just baseball. Anyone that has stated otherwise is wrong, plain and simple.

Thank you for your comments and support of our community's youth. The ECYB program thanks you, as would any group lucky enough to have your time, money or attention given their way. :O)

Regarding the H1N1 poll and shot, I noticed a lot of people don't trust the shot and won't be geting one (43% right now).

Does anyone have specific concerns that can be backed up with available data on the vaccine?

So...I have a call in to the Chief, who is in a meeting, but I wonder if a search party or 2 will be formed to look for the missing girl. Sure would be great to get her back home safe.

You are all gonna love this one Old Butch John was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called 'pullets,' and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs. He kept records, and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced. This took a lot of time, so he bought some tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone, so he could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now, he could sit on the porch And fill out an efficiency report by just listening to the bells. John's favourite rooster, old Butch, was a very fine specimen, but this morning he noticed old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all! When he went to investigate, he saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing, but the pullets, hearing the roosters coming, could run for cover. To John's amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one. John was so proud of old Butch, he entered him in the Renfrew County Fair and he became an overnight sensation among the judges. The result was the judges not only awarded old Butch the No Bell Piece Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well. Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making. Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention. Vote carefully next year, the bells are not always audible.

Kim, thanks for letting everyone know about that. I myself was not able to attend, but I knew alot of people had plans of pushing up their sleeves and spending the day doing some real work. Mtn. Home should be proud of that endeavor. It gave that family a moment of happiness in a time where those moments may be few and far between. It can't help but warm their hearts to know their family member was that respected to bring out such a large crowd.

Your post was a wonderful "Positive Thursday" start to the day. Thank you very much

Jessie Miller

I just wanted to post something positive about our community. You see the public service ads on TV from an organization for a better life. It inspires you to reach out to others. I want to talk about an example of people who did just that. They reached out to a grieving family. A husband and father's life was suddenly cut short. A vibrant young man who thought that he had plenty of time to complete all the projects that needed to be done on his property was killed in an accident. It was devastating to his family and friends. There was profound grief and many people are uncomfortable with that; many tend to avoid having to deal with the grief of others, normally struggling with what to say. However, this man's family and friends dealt with their grief and faced the little family head on, no matter how deeply uncomfortable those emotions may be surrounding a death. They looked at the needs of the family left fatherless and banded together on a cool Saturday morning to finish what hadn't been done. I am touched beyond mere proud-ness at the hundred people who gave their time to help this family. Hundreds from our community heard the call and stepped up to get their hands dirty for the needs of another. This is what community is all about. They are the perfect example to everyone what love and committment to a family means. I applauded all of you for bringing a priceless gift to Kelly's family. God bless you all. Other communities should pay attention and hold you all up as fine example's of the power that people banded together hold. United, people can accomplish great things.

VT,

I think you have done a fine job of researching all this information. It will give you a great idea of what is needed if/when construction starts. I commend you for taking the extra steps to find out things on your own.

WAYL, you must have obtained your misinformation from the WECRD Board regarding Mr. Freer's request for a donation.

First, he never asked for the donation on behalf of all youth activities to start up a non-profit. Mr. Freer's group is already a non-profit.

Second Mr. Freer (and yes, I was there) ASKED for 10% of the budget but did NOT demand such. He said that ANY donation would be fine and would help. He very clearly stated that the 10% was a starting point but not set in stone. He went before the WECRD Board on behalf of ALL youth programs within the community...NOT just youth baseball. Mr. Freer never stated that he was going to start up a non-profit because most youth programs in the community, that get donations, are already a non-profit. So to say these funds were requested to set up a non-profit is NOT true or factual. The funds requested were requested to aid local, youth programs that are already up and operational (unlike the WECRD after 9 years).

Some of you out there seem to opine that "these things take time." Well, this is true. However, until such time it is not very far off base to think that this organization, set up to provide recreation, would donate to such things. It would stand to reason that a "recreation district" would indeed support recreation and the youth of our community.

The petition will be handed in in early December. The vote will be in February, 2010. I am confident that the people of the community will not vote in favor of this mess a second time given the actions/inactions of the last 9 years. People in city and county government (or both, as partners) will do something with these funds to create recreation when the WECRD is voted out AND...I bet it will come to be LONG BEFORE 9 YEARS GO BY!!!

FYI, many "opposers" are on the CDLC and are working on this proposed facility. So, we are working on a solution and we are out talking to people obtaining input from the community in a random manner. To say that the "opposers" are part of the problem is another less than factual statement. We are for responsible, sustainable recreation for ALL within our community as opposed to the few. Most of us can agree that something is needed but we NEED it to be something that this community can afford years down the road----NOT just today.

WAYL and SAMB,

Have it your way and don't try to answer my question. I just asked a question that I had hoped someone might be able to answer. SAMB, while I fully support the ECDVC, I just do not see where it is supporting recreation by donating money to a non-profit organization. I am not riding the doomsday wagon as WAYL and SAMB think. I have stated over and over that a rec center and program is needed but not on the grand scale that this board continues to push. They also seem to have thier own opinion of what is recreation (IE ECDVC and Concert in the Park). I have only questioned some of thier choices as we all do with elected officials. But some seem to want to squash those that speak out against the WECRD. I never said I have all the facts and only present what the WECRD has posted in thier own words. But it seems that I am not allowed to that because it upsets some.

For WAYL, it is the future generations that I am worried about. As my name says, I am older and therefore don't see myself going to the rec center very often. I worry that a building will be built only to be empty in a few years when the population cannot afford to use it.

And lastly today, you can bet the bank that I will be there to vote in Feb.

Sorry to change the subject but does anyone know when Wingers is due to open? I want to try some new food in our town.

Why should my tax $$ go to help a kid play sports but not enjoy music? Why is your definition of recreation the only one? VOTE FEBUARY! I DOUBT IT.

Old Man in order for your argument to be valid, why don't you try comparing requests for donations/help from organizations to the board, for close to the same dollar amounts. A basket was what maybe $100 $200 at the most: a walking path and the youth sports wanted, thousands maybe 10's of thousands??????????????????????? And the guy asking for the youth sports would have been insulted/mad if offered a couple hundred (in my opinion). So if the board would give the same amount to youth sports you would be happy? I DOUBT IT. Then you would complain they did not give enough and that is not what they wanted. IT WILL NEVER BE RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. and oh yea when is the VOTE?

Hey I just talked with my friend who is helping Thee ALumni group and she said They got TIGER car flags. SO let's cover the town with car flags this week instead of BSU flags. That would look pretty cool at the high school and home coming all the kids and adults having TIGER car flags.. I say a couple at the game Friday but didnt know they were selling them there. I guess I will have to get one for my car this week...

This is Homecoming week at the high school. Please go and support the local teams. In the evening there will be a mocho volley ball and a powder puff footballgame. Friday night at the game their will be school clubs selling items to raise money and then the alumni will be selling new items in there booth and that money to go scholarship fund. So go out and suppport your Mt home tiger this week..

Thanks WAYL! That was fun-my mom and I love football history and had no idea what was going on when we were watching the game today!

Just a little interesting history for those watching the Denver Bronco game who didn't know; like me.

Celebrating the 50th with Original Uniforms

March 30th, 2009 - 12:36pm by jim_saccomano

Many Denver Broncos fans by now are familiar with last week's announcement at the National Football League annual meeting relative to the celebration of the 50th year of play by the eight original American Football League teams this year.

I was in elementary school when the AFL and Broncos started playing, at that time unaware that I would be fortunate to ultimately have a career spanning four decades with this new franchise.

One of the pivotal elements of this celebration is that each of the eight teams will wear a throwback uniform, with the Broncos opting for their original threads.

If you are not sitting down, you might want to.

The original uniform of the Denver Broncos was seal brown and gold, although I have always thought "mustard" is a more accurate term for the gold color.

The pants were brown both home and away, the helmet was also brown with just a center stripe and the uniform number on each side. The jersey was gold for home games, white for road, but the most striking -- and most would say hideous -- element was the socks.

The socks were vertically striped, gold and brown at home, white and brown on the road. Few uniforms like this have been seen before or since.

The combination was frowned upon by all who saw them, and the team's performance was horrid to boot, so when Jack Faulkner took over as head coach and general manager in 1962, not only did he oversee the switch to orange and blue, but he had the original uniforms burned at a bonfire on the night of the Broncos' annual intrasquad scrimmage that closed out training camp.

Of course, the bonfire was a big hit -- little did they know that they were burning one of the great collectors' item uniforms in American sport history. A few pair of the socks were sneaked away, one finding its was to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, one to AFL founder Lamar Hunt, soon to be displayed in the Kansas City Chiefs' new museum, and a few were spirited away by the players themselves.

The Broncos are in possession of just one pair of the socks, the road white and brown, which is displayed at the team's headquarters in Dove Valley.

One of the most astonishing elements of the story is that the Broncos did not have these uniforms commissioned by a team of artists and tailors.

No, what happened was the Broncos bought them used.

That's right. The uniform that the Denver Broncos wore in their first two years of operation were purchased from a long defunct and forgotten bowl game called the Copper Bowl, not to be confused with any bowl game that has existed since 1960.

So the uniform and first team colors were literally selected from the rag bag of opportunity. Quite a bit different from how pro sports teams operate today.

The person who gets the credit -- yes, credit -- because he did what he absolutely had to do given the financial circumstances placed upon him, was general manager Dean Griffing, who came to the Mile High City from the Canadian Football League.

For two years, every rip was stitched, every seam reinforced. Pants and jerseys were let out, taken in, sometimes multiple times each year, and above all, every tear was stitched. After all, these were the uniforms. There were no others.

But some births take place in the best of hospitals, and some take place in a stable. Once born, the person writes his own history, and so does a team.

So since then, this team has fashioned a history like few others. Back to back world championships and at the time the best three-year record in pro football history (1996-98), six AFC championships, eight appearances in the AFC title game, and being chosen by the NFL to play in seven American Bowl games -- these are highlights which few teams have. Wins, national television, and growing number of Hall of Famers.

But for the Denver Broncos, it began in the uniform-version of a stable.

And that little chunk of history will be commemmorated this year.

If you receive an email from

the Department of Health

telling you not to eat canned pork

because of swine flu (H1N1)...... .......

Ignore it.

It's just Spam.

It's Obama's consolation prize for losing the Chicago Olympic bid.

VT,

I have to ask, what county office did you go to? Did you try the assesors office? I think they have the map that shows exactly where the floodplain is and what lots are affected by it. If they don't have it, this might be an item to bring to the ECC attention. I know when we bought our house a few years ago, they had a map that showed where the floodplain was. Other than that I think you are on the right track. If/when the CLDC makes it's reccomendation, it should be a plan that is fesiable for the land that WECRD purchased so many years ago. Like you said, it is what it is and the best has to be made of it.

VT,

Sounds like you are thinking logically. I think a land survey is warranted and surely will aide in any planning. I would be suspicious if anyone says that a survey is not needed. From what I have read, it seems one has never been done as the WECRD did not know if the land they purchased was in the flood plain or not. One would have thought a survey was one of the first things they had done prior to purchasing the land. By being in a flood plain many things are affected. First insurance will cost more, then buidling costs could be more since certain requirements have to meet.

Whyarentyoulistening,

I'm sorry that you see it as some sort of doomsday deal. I was asked to be on the CLDC subcommittee for Programs and Facilities and I am looking at this from a realistic standpoint to complete a project, not from a reactionary want or don't want side.There is a 10 foot deep, 20 foot wide, riverbed that runs through the property. That seems to be something to consider before deciding on what Programs or Facilities are going to be implemented or built. Whether or not the property was overpaid for, or whatever other factors were involved, really don't matter because it is what it is. What does matter is that we understand what can be built there and what restrictions we are facing. Maybe there can be sports fields there. I don't know. What I believe is that you probably can't fill that riverbed in, and the riverbed cuts through the property from north to south. Maybe there can be two separate entrances to the property one on the west end and one on the east end. That would seem to require getting an easement. I personally will not ignore what are realistic obstacles just because I'm trying to help get something built. From what I have heard the co-chairman's of the CLDC say this new process is not about predetermined outcomes or cheer-leading. It is about complete transparency and honest evaluation. My belief is that a survey is warranted to find out exactly how wide the flood way is and then to find out what building restrictions we are faced with. I would imagine that cost and composition of the building would be effected. Maybe not, but to stumble ahead blindly without a clear understanding of what the obstacles are is irresponsible.

I was just going to post the same info regarding the maze Quey Johns does. We go every year and the boys always have so much fun. They are great with the kids and have reasonable pumpkin prices (granted,higher than the grocer but great for a patch/maze experience). The maze is challenging but they also have some straw bale mazes and activities for the little ones ... lots of fun. We've been to a few in the Eagle/Meridian area and Quey's certainly compares in fun without all the traffic and crowds. :O)

AFW:

Here is some info on the only pumpkin patch, etc. I could find...not in Glenns Ferry. There are some other locations like Eagle and Star on this site as well.

http://www.pumpkinpatchesandmore.org/IDp...

Look under Owyhee County. If there is one in GF, you may need to call their Chamber. What a great location if there is one there. Have fun.

No "dooms day" message. The WECRD paid a half million bucks for land in an area on the FEMA map known to flood. 5-6 acres of that land are not worth nearly what was paid and have limited uses based on its location. Sky is the limit I guess when it is taxpayer money. Not many people would have paid that and MOST would have had the land valued and a survey done PRIOR to signing a check. Other people's money is what this all boils down to as well as pure, 100% stupidity. By all means come up with all sorts of reasons for why this is okay. Insurance costs will be higher and so will construction costs. But what the heck...the taxpayers of Elmore County have deep pockets! It will all be passed on to US!

I was sorry to hear that we lost a teacher at the HS last week due to a sudden illness.I heard that no one from the district office or the school board showed up to show support at the funeral. No wonder the bond wont pass. If they cant support the teachers at a funeral why vote for a bond.

OG wasn't directed at you in any way. So, you must be touchy for some reason of your own. Did not mean to offend you- have been restraining and finding the joy in life. This was just my opinion and part of the conversation. I thought all the disclaimers were just sarcasm... did not realize you feel they are needed.

Just curious, but who sold the property to the WECRD so long ago........

The use of floodways and drainage areas for athletic fields and recreational areas has been an established and accepted planning practice for years. Have you ever noticed the park on the point of 12th, Canyon Creek and Sunset Strip? Legacy Park? But this possible practical use of 5/6 acres wouldn't fit for the doomsday bandwagon speeches.

This sounds strangely familiar:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/st...

Beau.

I said Go Vikings and they did. Sorry Packer

Fans.

Beau

I think Gerbels will have to be leashed as well as chickens. I was told when I got my ticket for a cat that chickens inside the city limits must also be leashed.

I am not able to post while at work so here is my comment. I noticed some remarks about flooding or not flooding at the WECRD site. Here is the definitions from the state statue concerning flooding Site:

http://www.idwr.idaho.gov/WaterManagemen...

Sorry for the length of the post but I did not want to just cut out a small portion of it and be accused of only selecting data that supported my stance. I hope these helps those that did not understand what a floodplain is and why the concern over it with the WECRD site.

STATE DISASTER PREPAREDNESS ACT

46-1021.DEFINITIONS. As used in this act:

(1) "Development" means any manmade change to improved or unimproved real estate, including, but not limited to, the construction of buildings, structures or accessory structures, or the construction of additions or substantial improvements to buildings, structures or accessory structures; the placement of mobile homes; mining, dredging, filling, grading, paving, excavation or drilling operations; and the deposition or extraction of materials; specifically including the construction of dikes, berms and levees.

(2) "Flood" means a general or temporary condition of partial or complete inundation of normally dry land areas caused by the overflow or rise of river, ocean, streams or lakes, or the unusual and rapid accumulation or runoff of surface waters from any source.

(3) "Flood fringe" is that portion of the floodplain outside of the floodway covered by floodwaters during the regulatory flood.

(4) "Floodplain" is the land that has been or may be covered by floodwaters, or is surrounded by floodwater and inaccessible, during the occurrence of the regulatory flood. The riverine floodplain includes the floodway and the flood fringe.

(5) "Floodplain management" is the analysis and integration of the entire range of measures that can be used to prevent, reduce or mitigate flood damage in a given location, and that can protect and preserve the natural, environmental, historical, and cultural values of the floodplain.

(6) "Floodproofing" means the modifications of structures, their sites, building contents and water and sanitary facilities, to keep water out or reduce the effects of water entry.

(7) "Flood protection elevation" means an elevation that shall correspond to the elevation of the one percent (1%) chance flood (one hundred (100) year flood) plus any increased flood elevation due to floodway encroachment, plus any required freeboard.

(8) "Floodway" is the channel of the river or stream and those portions of the floodplain adjoining the channel required to discharge and store the floodwater or flood flows associated with the regulatory flood.

whats next? liscensing gerbels and guppies?

Thank you Chief Walter, for your quick response to our questions!

Ms. M & SAS,

Currently cats do not have to have a license, this activity is part of the proposed ordinance changes. The reason is we feel cats should have the same rights as dogs (sorry cat lovers who think they deserve more). Currently if we find a cat that is dead or injured we have no way of knowing who to notify. We think it only fair that loving cat owners be notified of such tragedies and registering them will make that possible. Since it's new, the City Council amended the proposal and set the fee at 1/2 the proposed dog license fee.

For those who didn't know, the Police Department is charged with Animal Shelter oversight, which is why you are hearing from the Police Chief. Stay dry and warm!

Chief Walter

sas212

So there really is a license for cat's...... I never knew you had to have a license for a cat. I wonder how they are going to enforce this law? I have a house in the city but live in the county....so I am not up on city ordinances.

Say Hi to your Mom for me. I haven't seen her in a long time and I hope your Dad is doing good.

Re: julyGirl....please don't think that you can voice your opinion here on the BB and not get stomped on for it!! What were you thinking??? Just kidding. We DO live in America and are entitled to have our own opinions. Thank heavens for that! I do agree that the joke thing is getting a tad old now. So, who wants to talk about the school board?

-- Posted by outtathere on Mon, Oct 5, 2009, at 10:33 AM

You say the jokes are getting a tad old and THEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD. What is the difference?

Well we can go back to my question I asked yesterday Does anyone know if cat's are being licensed in the city of Mountain Home? I don't ever remember cat's having to have a license

Rainy Monday Riddles: Hope someone gets a grin!

Q: What did the grape do when it got stepped on?

A: It let out a little wine

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Q: What happens when the fog lifts in Southern California?

A: UCLA.

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Q: What do you get when you cross a humming bird with a doorbell?

A: A humdinger

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Q: What do you get when you cross the Atlantic Ocean with the Titanic?

A: Half way there.

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The occasional printing of a joke or story someone wants to share on the banter box is interesting but I am sorry, I prefer the banter box to be a conversation about information pertinent to our community not a place to copy the millions of stories, jokes etc found on the internet. Again, just my opinion.

~sas212....I'll be chuckling over that one for a goooooood looooooong time! Thank you!!!

Carry on. Enjoy your day. Good night.

more "Things I've learned from children" humor, hope it brings a smile...

A king size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 sq. foot house 4 inches deep.

No matter how much Jello you put in a swimming pool you still can't walk on water.

VCR's do not eject PB&J sandwiches even though TV commercials show they do.

Always look in the oven before you turn it on.

The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy. It will, however, make cats dizzy. Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy.

Did You all read this

During a meeting Monday evening, the Mountain Home City Council proposed additional changes to the city's animal control ordinance, including restrictions on owning more than three pets in multiple family units.

If signed into law, the revised ordinance may include eliminating pet turn-in fees at the city animal shelter while cutting annual licensing fees for cat owners.

The way I am reading it there's all ready a licensing fee for cats in place, I never knew cats had to be licensed in the city.

WAYL,

I think I found the restaurant you are talking, Sumpter Junction. Sounds like a go on that trying that place. My grandfather was a Engineer for Detroit and Mackinaw railway and I love trains myself. Thanks for the tip.

Did you go on the scenic drive around Granite and so forth? I am loving forward to some great photos.

Workingbee,

If you have little ones with you, there is a Train Restaurant not far from the highway exit. Food and service were good but the kids had a blast! The model train runs throughout the entire restaurant and there are several good vantage points for little ones to watch it travel.

a sprial climb, bridge, tunnel etc... hope you enjoy your trip.

sas:

I am sure. Get back to your wine.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Oct 4,

Thanks for the words of wisdom hope you lost sleep last night thinking up these great words. BUT THEY ARE BETTER THEN YOUR NEXT POST.

WAYL words that fit OM

Oooops. One more thing there sas. If it is me that the people of this community "love to hate" where do the money sucking, self absorbed, self-serving and sanctimonius of our very fine community fit in? 8 years later...1.8 million dollars collected...and NOTHING. But we do have a half million dollar piece of ground located in a flood way! And I am the one people "love to hate!" Yes, makes PERFECT sense to me. Thank you for clearing that up for me. I shall take a few plays from "their" handbook next time and remember these words "you cannot help those who do not want to be helped." Carry on.

FYI, if you are looking for something to do to wrap up the weekend: Oktober Fest is coming to Mountain Home on Sunday, October 4th 2-7pm at the RV park on American Legion Blvd (2295 American Legion Blvd).

A few weeks ago I wandered into a small restaraunt/shop in Boise called Tres Bonne Cuisine and discovered that they were planning their annual Oktober Fest in Mountain Home. I am looking forward to some authentic German food, including apfel strudel--my favorite! Here is their website if you would like more information:

http://www.tresbonnecuisine.com/oktoberf...

Probst!

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Old Guy,

We are thinking of going next weekend to Baker City. There is a scenic drive around the area I want to check out. Where there any restaurants you would recommend?

hee-hee-ha-ha.

kids say the funniest things....

An acquaintance of mine who is a physician told this story about her then four-year-old daughter. On the way to preschool, the doctor had left her stethoscope on the car seat, and her little girl picked it up and began playing with it. Be still, my heart, thought my friend, my daughter wants to follow in my footsteps!

Then the child spoke into the instrument: "Welcome to McDonald's. May I take your order?"

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One summer evening during a violent thunderstorm a mother was tucking her small boy into bed. She was about to turn off the light when he asked with a tremor in his voice, "Mommy, will you sleep with me tonight?"

The mother smiled and gave him a reassuring hug. "I can't, dear," she said. "I have to sleep in Daddy's room."

A long silence was broken at last by his shaky little voice: "The big sissy."

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The child was a typical four-year-old girl -- cute, inquisitive, bright as a new penny. When she expressed difficulty in grasping the concept of marriage, her father decided to pull out his wedding photo album, thinking visual images would help. One page after another, he pointed out the bride arriving at the church, the entrance, the wedding ceremony, the recessional, the reception, etc.

"Now do you understand?" he asked.

"I think so," she said, "is that when mommy came to work for us?"

lol.. enjoy

We spent the weekend in Baker City visiting the historic hotel there. It is a very nice hotel and we plan on going back in the warmer weather. Not only did the wind blow like crazy last night but it was snowing when we left this morning. Sorry to say but it seems that weather followed us here. LOL

OK We all know about the problems WECRD has but I don't think we need to rehash the problems everyday. I will remember what I have learned on here. Everyone has things going on in their life's and sometimes we go through some troubling times and I appreciate something nice to look forward to each day, be it the sun shining, my dog doing something funny, or something that makes me laugh or puts a smile on my face.

If I want to be in a bad mood then I will think about my taxes, the WECRD, balancing my checkbook, having a mountain of clothes to wash, floors to scrub and watching the food at the grocery store get more expensive each day

When is the vote?????? Everyone was playing so nice, I am surprised a certain someone made to 2 days. If an issue meant so much to me i would have had the signatures turned in long before the deadline, wait when i did something simular to this I DID.

Old guy thanks, no hidden sarcasism or snide remarks in that, thanks.

OM,

Many of us care about the many events going on in the community with the same passion that you do. However some try a different tatic than some that you have used and there is nothing wrong with either way.

I, for one have enjoyed the new banter on the BB. In these times where most of what we read is depressing, it is refreshing to read something and get a good laugh out of it instead of a cry. To quote some others on here, "if you don't like what you read, then don't come here."

If only crap came off as easy as dirt.

So, this is what the few want the BB to be? PUKE! Jokes and hee-hee-ha-ha. You people want to stick your heads under a rock and ignore the problems? What does this solve? It does not make our community look any better. As a matter of fact it makes this community look pretty sad. If you do not speak up things will never change and there will be more WECRD-like organizations created because nobody "cares." Just what we need.

On a side note. I went past that land today. The weeds are as high as some trees and there is garbage all over the place. There are rules about that. How about if that gets fixed so it is not so yucky to look at. And for goodness sake...CHANGE THE DARN SIGN!!! Let the name calling begin.

As for the jobs at Marathon, what did anyone expect? They came to get what they could get for next to nothing and at the first chance cut jobs. That is what Elmore County gets when it sells itself off like some two bit whore. Not to worry...we will do it yet again with the nuclear plant after we (the taxpayers) invest millions and millions into Don's infrastructure just to have the project fail. This is why the smart people in this community get ticked off. 2 really good examples and directly under your noses...

Good night.

Supposedly, these are actual advertisements that have appeared in papers across the country.

Lost: small apricot poodle. Reward. Neutered. Like one of the family.

A superb and inexpensive restaurant. Fine food expertly served by waitresses in appetizing forms.

Dinner Special -- Turkey $2.35; Chicken or Beef $2.25; Children $2.00.

For sale: an antique desk suitable for lady with thick legs and large drawers.

Four-poster bed, 101 years old. Perfect for antique lover.

Now is your chance to have your ears pierced and get an extra pair to take home, too.

Wanted: 50 girls for stripping machine operators in factory.

Wanted: Unmarried girls to pick fresh fruit and produce at night.

We do not tear your clothing with machinery. We do it carefully by hand

To those of you who are trying to move on to other topics besides the WECRD, thank you. It's refreshing.

But to the rest of you who feel like you must use this board to drone on and on about the same thing over and over, listen up.

We just lost 50 jobs in this community and if any of you think for one minute that those jobs are coming back some day, I have a site for a nuclear power plant near the Snake River I'd like to sell you.

DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of 'why' the US is in trouble!

1.I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter) ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On

an airplane!)

2.I got a call from a Kansas Congressman's (Moore) staffer (Howard

Bauleke), who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, and then he interrupted me with,

''I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in

Massachusetts .''

Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, '' Cape Cod is

in Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa ''

His response -- click.

3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called, furious about a

Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in

Orlando . He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain

that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.

He replied, 'don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very

thin state!'' (OMG)

4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife (Landra Reid) who asked, ''Is it

possible to see England from Canada ?''

I said, ''No.''

She said, ''But they look so close on the map.'' (OMG, again!)

5.An aide for a cabinet member (Janet Napolitano) once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas . I pulled up the reservation and noticed he

had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas . When I asked him why he wanted to

rent a car, he said, ''I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need

a car to drive between gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)

6.An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week. She needed

to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30

a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.

I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn't

understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went

fast, and she bought that.

7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked, ''Do airlines

put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage

belongs to whom?'' I said, 'No, why do you ask?'

he replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on

my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very

rude!''

After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was

dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , Ca.

is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a

destination tag on his luggage..

8. A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would

it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''

9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman, Bobby Bright (D)

from Ala who asked, ''How do I know which plane to get on?''

I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ''I was told my

flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.''

10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D)

called and said, ''I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do I have to

get on one of those little computer planes?''

I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL on a commuter plane.

She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''

11. Mary Landrieu (D) La. Senator called and had a question about the

documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion

about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. 'Oh, no I don't.

I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those.''

I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa. When I told

her this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times and every time

they have accepted my American Express!''

12. A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make reservations, ''I

want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York .''

I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ''Are you sure that's the name

of the town?''

'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man.

After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've looked up

every airport code in the country and can't find a rhino anywhere."

''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is.

Check your map!''

So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ''You

don't mean Buffalo , do you?''

The reply? ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''

Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in!

Could anyone be this DUMB?

YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO BREED.

A lesson to be learned from typing the wrong email address!

A Minneapolis couple decided to go to Florida to thaw out during particularly icy winter. They planned to stay at the same hotel where they spent their honeymoon 20 years earlier.

Because of hectic schedules, it was difficult to coordinate their travel schedules, so the husband left Minnesota and flew to Florida on Thursday, with his wife flying down the following day.

The husband checked into the hotel. There was a computer in his room, so he decided to send an email to his wife. However, he accidentally left out one letter in her email address, and without realizing his error, sent the email.

Meanwhile, somewhere in Houston, a widow had just returned home from her husband's funeral. He was a minister who was called home to glory following a heart attack. The widow decided to check her email expecting messages from relatives and friends. After reading the first message, she screamed and fainted. The widow's son rushed into the

room, found his mother on the floor, and saw the computer screen which read:

To: My Loving Wife

Subject: I've Arrived

Date: October 16, 2004

I know you're surprised to hear from me. They have computers here now and you are allowed to send emails to your loved ones. I've just arrived and have been checked in. I see that everything has been prepared for your arrival tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing you then! Hope your journey is as uneventful as mine was.

P.S. Sure is freaking hot down here.

In a court in Killarney, deep in Munster, Ireland, this conversation is reported to have taken place:

Lawyer: 'At the scene of the accident, Mr O'Shea, did you tell the Garda officer that you had never felt better in your life?'

O'Shea the farmer: 'That's right, sir.'

Lawyer: 'Well then, Mr O'Shea, how is it that you are now claiming you were seriously injured when my client's car hit your cart?'

O'Shea the farmer: 'When the Garda arrived, he went over to my horse, who had a broken leg, and shot him. Then he went over to Darcy, my dog, who was badly hurt, and shot him.

Then the policeman came across the road, gun still in hand, looked at me, and said, 'How are you feeling?' I just thought under the circumstances, it was a wise choice of words to say: 'I've never felt better in my life.'

sas:

Does it really matter? All but $35.00 of this "adventure" has been paid by me. As far as being an "organization," no. We are just a simple group of people, who have reviewed the facts/data, etc., and do not feel this group has lived up to their end of the bargain based on the rules/laws that govern a recreation district. We are just regular old citizens. No organized LLC or anything else. Enjoy your day.

One day a farmer's donkey fell into a well. The farmer frantically thought what to do as the stricken animal cried out to be rescued. With no obvious solution, the farmer regretfully concluded that as the donkey was old, and as the well needed to be filled in anyway, he should give up the idea of rescuing the beast, and simply fill in the well. Hopefully the poor animal would not suffer too much, he tried to persuade himself.

The farmer asked his neighbours help, and before long they all began to shovel earth quickly into the well. When the donkey realised what was happening he wailed and struggled, but then, to everyone's relief, the noise stopped.

After a while the farmer looked down into the well and was astonished by what he saw. The donkey was still alive, and progressing towards the top of the well. The donkey had discovered that by shaking off the dirt instead of letting it cover him, he could keep stepping on top of the earth as the level rose. Soon the donkey was able to step up over the edge of the well, and he happily trotted off.

Life tends to shovel dirt on top of each of us from time to time. The trick is to shake it off and take a step up.

There is the story of William Pitt, 1759-1806, British statesman and Prime Minister from 1783-1801, who once sought to expedite a crucial agreement in Parliament for the movement of the British fleet to defend against the French. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord Newcastle, had certain objections, but when Pitt called on the Chancellor endeavouring to resolve the differences, he found the Chancellor distinctly unhappy in bed suffering with gout. The bedroom was freezing, and when Pitt remarked on this, Lord Newcastle replied that the cold weather would hinder the fleet movement, but more particularly that the combination of the cold conditions and the gout would prevent any further discussion of the issue at that time, which Pitt quickly judged to be at the root of the problem. Begging the Chancellor's pardon, Pitt calmly removed his boots, climbed into bed and drew up the covers (apparently there was another bed in the room..), whereupon the two were able to discuss the matter and soon agreed on a united way forward.

LMH:

We will have them available in window clings. We have another one that is a gun (like you are looking down the barrel) and it says "TAXATION WITHOUT RECREATION." There are others as well.

OM:

Love your photo.. Can these be made into car

magnets?

Just some info for everyone. We had a problem with our Windjammercable, internet wouldn't work. During the conversation with the call center they asked for our social security number to update their records. I refused. I then called the office here in town to make sure this call person wasn't running her own scam. Well, sure enough Windjammer is trying to collect customers' Social Security numbers to update their records. I was told that this is done so that if someone doesn't pay their bill, then Windjammer can "GIVE your Soc. Security number" to a collection agency to collect on the bill. They don't tell you this when they ask for it - they say it is to update their records.I can't believe that in today's world they would even THINK about asking for it.

There will also be a baseball diamond there as well according to somone on their board who is working on the plan. Other organizations giving back to the youth of this community. Very nice to see.

I propose freedome from nagging (name calling) friday. Today was great.

GICowboy,

I have heard that it's a new Mormon Church that is being built across from McKenna HS.

Hey, does anyone know what is being built behind McDonalds and across from McKenna High School?

heehee....

America vs. Russia

The Americans and Russians, at the height of the arms race, realized that if they continued in the usual manner they were going to blow up the whole world.

One day they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with one dog fight. They'd have five years to breed the best fighting dog in the world and whichever side's dog won would be entitled to dominate the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms.

The Russians found the biggest, meanest Doberman and Rottweiler ------- in the world and bred them with the biggest meanest Siberian wolves. They selected only the biggest and strongest puppy from each litter, killed his siblings, and gave him all the milk. They used steroids and trainers and after five years came up with the biggest meanest dog the world had ever seen. Its cage needed steel bars that were three inches thick and nobody could get near it.

When the day came for the fight, the Americans showed up with a strange animal. It was a nine-foot long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for the Americans because they knew there was no way that this dog could possibly last ten seconds with the Russian dog.

When the cages were opened up, the Dachshund came out and wrapped itself around the outside of the ring. It had the Russian dog almost completely surrounded. When the Russian dog leaned over to bite the Dachshund's neck, the Dachshund reached out and consumed the Russian dog in one bite. There was nothing left at all of the Russian dog.

The Russians came up to the Americans, shaking their heads in disbelief. `We don't understand how this could have happened. We had our best people working for five years with the meanest Doberman and Rottweiler ------- in the world and the biggest, meanest Siberian wolves."

"That's nothing," an American replied. "We had our best plastic surgeons working for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund."

Midea,

Please Thank her for her serving for us! Congratulate her on her newest accomplishment and give her our wishes for continued successes.

Thank you for sharing.

Interesting article, and very apropos to our School Board dealings recently.

The article is called 'A Primer on Racism' by Richard Thompson Ford.

http://www.slate.com/id/2231002

Have you ever been guilty of looking at others your own age and thinking, surely I can't look that old. Well.... You'll love this one. enjoy

My name is Alice Smith and I was sitting in the waiting room for my first appointment with a new dentist. I noticed his dds diploma, which bore his full name. Suddenly, I remembered a tall, handsome, dark-haired boy with the same name had been in my high school class some 30-odd years ago. Could he be the same guy that I had a secret crush on, way back then?

Upon seeing him, however, I quickly discarded any such thought. This balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined face was way to old to have been my classmate.

After he examined my teeth, I asked him if he had attended Morgan Park High School.

'Yes. Yes, i did. I'm a Mustang,' he gleamed with pride.

'When did you graduate?' I asked.

He answered, 'In 1975. Why do you ask?'

'You were in my class!', I exclaimed.

He looked at me closely. Then, that ugly, old, bald, wrinkled, fat butt, gray-haired, decrepit, ugly son-of-a-bear asked, 'What did you teach?'

She looks so very precious and sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Easily understandable why people would want to pet her. Thanks for sharing.

Yes she is my "Chloe the Princess" who weighs 4 lbs. She fits in a purse. Never ever thought I would have a Chihuahua. lol ! She's a show stopper when I take her some where I don't get very far with out someone wanting to pet her.

This morning would be wonderful If I had a wood stove or a fire place! I love the smell of burning wood and the heat from it is so warm........

I refuse to turn the furnace on.... Oh which reminds me here's something positive. I heard Intermountain Gas is lowering their price rates

Wow, on here two days in a row looking at news in MTNH. Positive Thursday would be great to have back, if people can keep it up!!!!! It is nice and crisp outside, had to wear winter clothes. Old Guy I loved your post I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair. Everyone have a wonderful day.

How to tell the sex of a fly.

A woman walked into the kitchen to find her husband walking around with a fly swatter.

What are you doing she asked.

He responded hunting flies.

She asked killing any.

Yep he said, 3 males, 2 females.

Intrigued she asked, How can you teel the sex of a fly.

He responded, 3 were on a beer can, 2 were on the phone. LMBO, Take it as postive or negative for Thur, its only a joke.

outtathere:

Sorry, sometimes I'm a bit ditzy and don't understand.... are you talking about me using quotes from other users?

And I agree with every part of this post about the school board election.

"I'm sure that the three people that improperly voted knew that only 88 of the couple thousand eligible people in that district were going to vote. Conspiracy theorists of the world unite. Both men are qualified to serve, but things just had to be made white. If both gentlemen were white the election would've never been challenged. And it certainly wouldn't have been challenged by the whole board. Only one of which had the right to challenge.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Tue, Sep 29, 2009, at 8:50 PM "

Old Guy, MsMarilyn and ME1:

Happy to see others that still want a day for a dose of positive. Just one day to relax and enjoy the good that is going on in the lives of everyone.

Anybody else up to getting back "Positive Thursdays"?

Hey MrMister I'm having a senior moment here.... lol ! I think when I mentioned other's using their AFAD for their own agenda's but they weren't using tax payer's money I was referring to an answer from OM ..... I don't even remember your post... If I still got it wrong please correct me and sorry for the confusion. After reading all the posts on here about WECRD it is making my head spin. lol

I support a positive Thursday. My motto, if you have nothing nice to say, keep it to yourself for another day. Like the old line says, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. That means, no negative comments, no name calling, no personal attacks or trash talking about a subject or person.

Arrow,

I choose not to run for any elected office because I know that it is not my forte. I have however been involved in change that I feel strongly about. I went before the City Council to question them about snow removal last year. I provided them with many options and even offered to share a decade of snow removal experience with them. I think due in part to my research and presentation, that they changed policy and now work more efficiently. So I do more than complain and bitch on the blog. I stepped up and attempted to affect change in the public. Once again, I CHOOSE not to run for an office and it is not because as you seem to assume that I am a convicted felon. In fact, other than two traffic tickets, I have never been in trouble with the law. Like my Dad and Grandpa used to tell me, know your limits and work as best you can within them. I know that I would not be a good politician, as I tend to speak my mind and sometimes and not politically correct. When I blog, I write, reread, reread and reread things before I submit them to try and make sure I get my message across.

Here is an idea; you come out from behind your screen name, run for an office and show the rest of us how it is done. Me, I prefer to work with officials so long as they are receptive. I voice my opinion about the WECRD because they REFUSE to meet the needs of the public and seem to be more concerned about bettering themselves in my OPINION.

I do not think that everyone else is horrible at his or her job so I am not sure why you accuse me of this. I worked with many of the community leaders and have the utmost respect for them. Do some research and show me where I have stated what you seem to believe I have. And yes, I do have a family and they are the most important thing in my life. That is why I am so concerned about some of the agencies and state my OPINION about them. I want the community to be the best it can be for them in the future. Last time I checked, this is a right all of us share and enjoy. That is unless the Constitution was changed without any one knowing it.

As for me being a male version of OM, I only met her once and that was only for about 5 minutes. I state my opinions and have never been a puppet for anyone else despite what some have assumed. If you go back and actually look at and understand some of my posts, I have stated that I do not agree with some of the tactics she has elected to use.

Lastly, to quote you "you hide behind the blogs and refuse to come out and run for any office, until you do, everything you say and do is totally meaningless and extremely unimportant and a waste of time." Notice I used no personal attacks other than the one you stated about me.

arrow, you are nothing but a worhless wonder that flaps their jaw's and wouldn't know fact from fiction even if it slapped you up side the head.

Gee OM, I cant imagine why people cant stand you, with your good nature and polite and peaceful disposition....The way you respond and talk to people is so heart felt and sincere....

Me1, thank you as always for your very insightful post. And pardon me for my post to clarify less than factual info. As always, as an adult, you make the choice to read/log in. If we bore you, do not read OR...change the subject. We have had several WECRD free days. Once again, sorry to bore you with the "bickering." Maybe we can move on to a more worthy topic like how fast your grass is growing.

First off, it is the ECPA/MHPA that "presses charges" in a matter as opposed to a private citizen (excluding a citizen arrest). The MHPD/ECSO write citations and arrest people but it is the PA attorney(s) that prosecutes matters/"press charges"---NOT private citizens. This is why each week, in court notes, some matters have "dismissed by prosecutor" as opposed to dismissed by John Q. Public. Pretty simple WAYL.

Vivian at the elctions office did give me, and others, incorrect info regarding the turn in date for the petition. Call Betsy at the SOS' Office and ask for yourself.

I NEVER stated that (per WAYL) the "WECRD has stolen tax dollars, misappropriated funds, etc." I did state that their books did not match and that I had made an inquiry, directly to them, as to why the situation was. My letter was posted as well as the WECRD's response by email. Why would an "audit report" from an outside firm contain LESS info regarding expenses? If the WECRD's books "balance"---the audit report would have to contain ALL expenses not just part of them. That was the content of my comments on this matter.

Larry Craig was guilty of a crime and made a guilty plea in a court of law. When he came back to Idaho with a conviction under his belt his peers did not prosecute him. Could they have? Yes! Did they ELECT NOT TO? Yes! Does this mean he was/is not guilty? NO! It means that a group of people ELECTED NOT to prosecute the matter. It does NOT make him any less guilty. So, the fact that our local Government ELECTS to DO NOTHING to the WECRD for their actions does NOT make them NOT guilty of violating open meeting law. It just means that the powers that be have ELECTED to allow them (the WECRD) to get away with these things. It has to do with budgets for prosecution and finances and what our ECPA ELECTS to pursue/prosecute on behalf of the taxpayers of this county. If she elects to take the moral low ground, that is up to her. She too is an elected official. So, "Bulloney" WAYL regarding this statement today by YOU--"It means the allegations made by the complaint (sic) were not found to be valid." In fact, it means, that the local PA has ELECTED not to enforce and uphold the law. That is what this means.

Regarding the "baseball youth league" comments you made today. I NEVER stated they were "asking for a few dollars." I stated that they asked for 10% of the budget (ASKED NOT DEMANDED) but that they would be happy with ANY donation they got. 10% was a mere starting point----NOT THE BE ALL END ALL. This was stated at least 2 times when the presentation was made. And, it was a donation on behalf of ALL YOUTH ACTIVITIES as opposed to JUST BASEBALL! Had you been at the meeting, you would have known that. The truth of the matter is this. They were given NOTHING! NOT ONE DIME OR PENNY! However, at the same point in time, the WECRD ELECTED (I repeat ELECTED) to give a monetary donation to concerts in the park. They have done so time and time again, year after year. So, if they are saving all that they can for a building...WHY GIVE TO ANYONE? Why not "save it all" and tell EVERYONE "no, we are going to save for a building?" Pretty crappy for the kids if you ask me.

To close. WAYL, here is some education for you. For months, you have typed things on a public forum that are not true about me. I know that you have been "warned" about your statements because you have stated so and here is the "proof/facts" to support my statement:

..."WHERE IS THE SELF-RIGHTEOUS LOT OF BLOG POLICE - who have jumped on me for "disrespect"....

-- Posted by Whyarentyoulistening? on Mon, Sep 28, 2009, at 10:58 AM

The truth shall set us free WAYL. Everyone, enjoy your day.

Ever!

They need some one new on the board in charge of it. they are stuck on the old ways and you cant do that in these times. I think a lot of miss management goes on there and people dont think about it.

...

Workingbee, how are you able to keep your feet on the ground?

The lies OM has told are simple. She stated that Vivian at the elections office gave her the wrong date to file the petition. This is a lie. plain and simple a lie. Proof, go to the election office and find out what kind of an employee Vivian is. You will find the truth.

One of many.

OM has stated in post after post that the WECRD has stolen tax dollars, misappropriated funds, etc. Then when asked for proof has stated that she filed charges... only after contacting the proper authority to see where she filed charges and then confronting her with the facts... she recanted by saying she only filed a complaint.

Now, her defense to these false allegations is -just because the governing authority doesn't prosecute doesn't mean that the WECRD didn't do anything wrong. Bulloney. It means that the allegations made by the complaint were not found to be valid. but you go ahead and make excuses for her too.

Read her posts, first about the person who gave a wonderful presentation with written detailed facts asking for a few dollars for a local baseball youth league. Now what is her story...it is not the 10% of the WECRD budget ($46,000 plus dollars) which is what was asked for. So, what is the truth there? so and so forth.

Let's just move forward from this point... okay. And we can work toward actual truth not opinions.

No that's not my puppy but I do have a cute little one like it. Tomorrow I will post my little girl dressed in pearls

Workingbee,

Let's take baby steps in helping you understand what it is I am asking for.... I would like you to give us a list of the truths you feel that have been told or written by OM.

After you make that list, below each supposed fact place a comment about why you feel what she said or wrote is a fact.

Example:

OM said it was a dog.

It was a fact for OM to say it was a dog because it gave a meow, so therefore OM told the truth by saying it was a dog when the lie is it is a cat.

I hope this won't be too hard for you.!!! Please note that by doing this and giving me your here is the fact and here it why, will allow me and others to better sort out facts from opinions.

Thank you......

WB, lol.

Msm,

here is the blog where OM's posts show where she lied about comments, talking to MHN and info they gave her concerning my post and more. Based on current post on the BB, I shall just refer you to this blog. I am searching for the others too. of course, even with the evidence from OM's own writing it won't make a difference.

Here you go: http://www.mountainhomenews.com/blogs/14...

WAYL,

Let's take baby steps in helping you understand what it is I am asking for.... I would like you to give us a list of the lies you feel that have been told or written by OM.

After you make that list, below each lie place a comment about why you feel what she said or wrote is a lie.

Example:

OM said it was a dog.

It was a lie for OM to say it was a dog because it gave a meow, so therefore OM lied by saying it was a dog when the truth is it is a cat.

I hope this won't be too hard for you. Please note that by doing this and giving me your here is the lie and here it why, will allow me and others to better sort out real answers.

Thank you......

Oh WAYL don't have me go through all those posts and try to figure out where OM lied. Please just tell me. Since you are so adamant that she is lying you must have those lies on the tip of your tongue or better yet tip of your fingers lol !

CJW,

Now you know exactly why I have pretty much given up arguing with YOU on here.

1) If you call a DOG a CAT it does not make it so no matter how many times you try.

2) Same concept if you call OM's LIES fact. no matter how many times say someone is telling a truth if it isn't the case it just ISN'T...

"... I too shall look forward to YOUR proof with regard to the things you have said about me. Please, enjoy your day.-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Sep 28, 2009, at 1:25 PM "

You are a lot braver now that you deleted all your posts where proof was established using your own writings. I will endeavor to repost just for you.

No, not a threat just a statement of fact.

If your attorney (which I am sure you need with all your actions) finds me humorous, he must be downright on the floor doubled over with laughter after reading your baloney.

step up OM... where is your PROOF of wrong doing on the part of the elections office? just another lie to cover up your mistake.

MsM read the past posts, proof has been provided over and over. You all choose to ignore proof and follow opinions. Your choices, live with them. I live with mine.

yeah yeah yeah.... every word from OM is truth and anyone else's is not. fine works for you. Time will tell.

Still no charges. No wrong doing in the elections office either. But Om never lies right?

Oh WOW Jessie never figured who your Dad was and I think we were good friends. thanks for the hand shake, maybe some time we will cross paths and get the hand shake in person.

Sas no olives for me I hate those things but sure do go along with the hot sauce and a bit of black pepper lol.

EE,

I like mine spicy with tobasco sauce and extra large, jalapeno stuffed olives...2 please! How about you? :)

We've had our moments, at times, but for the most part, agreeing to disagree has been good for us, I think ;)

WAYL'S silence speaks volumes !

sas, never figured you to agree with me on anything but thanks. Now on to better things you going to keep all the VODKA to yourself or you going to share LOL. If you going to share will take mine as a bloody mary or screwdirve lol.

RocketMan...

I agree with EagleEye...don't include me and many others in your request to move the BB to another page. If you don't like it, don't read it. :-)

WAYL I'm still waiting for your proof that OM is lying about the WECRD. I would like to make a fact based decision. Show me the pudding.........

The Stella Awards

The "Stella" awards rank up there with the Darwin awards. Stella Liebeck is the 81 year old lady who spilled coffee on herself and sued McDonalds. This case inspired an annual award: The "Stella" Award - for the most frivolous lawsuits in the U. S.

The following are this year's candidates:

1. January 2000: Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas was awarded $780,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little brat was Ms. Robertson's son.

2. June 1998: A 19 year old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car, when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.

3. October 1998: A Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation. Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner's insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of half a million dollars.

4. October 1999: Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced-in yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.

5. May 2000: A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx. The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson threw it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument.

6. December 1997: Kara Alton of Claymont, Delaware successfully sued the owner of a night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.

And the winner is:

Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City. In November 2000 Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32 foot Winnebago motor home. On his first trip home, having joined the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly, the Winnie left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him

in the handbook that he couldn't actually do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. (Winnebago actually changed their handbooks on the back of their court case, just in case there are any other complete morons buying their vehicles).

MH News, we are respectfully requesting the Banter Box be relocated from the front page of the online edition. Many out-of-towners and people relocating with the military like to browse the online paper for local news, announcements, and obituaries.

The Banter Box has a place but not on the front page. Bury it so it takes a few clicks to find it. The trash talking is an embarrassment for the citizens of Mountain Home, and the paper looks like a rag mag. You are a news organization but it appears you have lowered your standards to "trash" news. Step it up, take accountability, and clean up your online news outlet.

Thank you.

The Brit's have this all figured out! Our boys went to school for 6wks, got 1wk off, school 6wks, got 1wk off. Summer break was 6wks, then back to school. School was 9am-3pm, so no alarm clock was even needed at 5am to wake the kids for the bus.

Just about the time the kids were sick of school, their friends & their teachers, they got a week off & were ready to go back. Not only did the 6wk summer mean they didn't lose 2/3 of what they'd just learned, the week-long break gave them time to rest & actually spend time with their family. We could even have a mini vacation if we wanted to.

Not one person (even the other Americans with kids in British schools) complained, if you can believe that. 6 on & 1 off was wonderful for their retention...& for the family. I don't see that ever happening here b/c too many people rely on the school to babysit their kids each week.

What do you say to the proposal to lengthen the school day and school year?

I say No to longer days. Yes to longer school year, if that's done by cutting back the ridiculous number of non-holiday days off during the current school year. Especially the stupid consecutive half days off. What a waste.

"Old Guy hit the nail on the head. The WECRD did nothing to honor the military, they used the event to promote themselves. The idea of using an event such as this to do anything other than its intended purpose is just plain selfish. It is what we have come to expect."

Sorry, I read the above quote literally. I put the part mentioning the WECRD in quotation marks to make a point--my mistake. What I should've put in quotation marks is the following:

"The idea of using an event such as this to do anything other than its intended purpose is just plain selfish."

I believe that was the intent of jtrotter's post: Source of monies paid to promote anything other than what AFAD was about is not an issue.

Yes, the WECRD had an agenda, and others had agendas as well. But, they all exploited AFAD as an avenue to promote their agendas.

If the shoe fits for one entity, it fits for all of them. That was my point.

This might be WAYL after an evening at OM's house:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lORCuR84-...

"It will catch up to you when all those reading and all your supporters find out the truth about you."

-- Posted by Whyarentyoulistening? on Mon, Sep 28, 2009, at 10:58 AM

So, was this a threat because it sure sounded like one? Insanity has claimed yet another. Sleep it off WAYL.

As for taking the BB down...why? They could just delete her and be done with the problem like they did to the wolf? Pretty simple. Drama sells and tunes people in. It matters not the the insane spewing being done by one person is not the least bit true. TRASH SELLS!!

My attorney loves your writings WAYL. He is having a good time. He said he has never, in 30 years of practice, seen such a thing. See you on the flip side of As The Banter Box Turns. I too shall look forward to YOUR proof with regard to the things you have said about me. Please, enjoy your day.

MOUNTAIN HOME NEWS.....I implore you, please abolish the BANTER BOX. This has really gotten ridiculous. Embarrassing for the entire city of Mountain Home, don't you agree?????

Beau, I am sorry for not reading your post first. Thank you.

I shall refrain for the rest of the day in respect for this Hero who gave his life so I could speak freely.

Thank you again Beau for the reminder of the sacrifices made each day by those who serve in the military for our rights and freedoms!!!

OM... you sick female dog! My post was deleted by corporate for the use of the word H e double hockey sticks. One for me to your countless deletions. Karma is about to catch up to you; your lies are being exposed one-by-one as well as your idiot opinions, suppositions, accusations and personal vendettas. Time will tell.

Your disrespect for anyone who disagrees with you is known, your rudeness to someone who served for your right to be a stupid female dog is beyond reason.

I thank your husband for his service to our country and I give him my deepest sympathy for being married to someone who has so little respect for his duty to his country.

OM, You are the biggest piece of crap I have ever had the displeasure of hearing.

You have the GALL to cast dispersions on someone who says they have served by saying they have no respect for fellow brothers or sisters.

YOU have NO RESPECT for anyone!!!!! If you were my sister you would the perfect candidate for a retroactive abortion, you trash.

WHERE IS THE SELF-RIGHTEOUS LOT OF BLOG POLICE - who have jumped on me for "disrespect".

You all are sitting silently by when your golden goose OM is spreading her vile crap all over this banter box. Run you claptrap you lying hateful vindictive little girl!!!!! It will catch up to you when all those reading and all your supporters find out the truth about you.

Thank you very much Beau, for sharing the heart warming and very inspiring story of Chief Warrant Officer Jesse "Don" Phelps. I am proud to have read it and that he served America. I hope everyone will take the time to read it.

Jessie

Whatever happened to peace on earth good will toward men. You can have an opinion but you dont have to be mean to other people. You need to chill out and have some fun.

Whyarentyoulistening?

What is your agenda?

"You will be held accountable for you false accusations it is just a matter of time."

Please give us true facts! Instead of telling us OM is lying, tell us how. Please list each of the OM's lies and list the reason it is.

That would benefit all of us, knowing the reasons you believe OM is lying.

thank you

The difference with the others using the event to promote themselves or their agenda is that they were not doing it with tax dollars while telling everyone they just want to save every dime so they can build a facility. The others also do not profess to be a recreation district, which is a taxing district, while they refuse to give money to local recreation. That is the difference. The other groups are also not holding 1.3 million dollars in the bank while they REFUSE to support their own local community. But hey...it has only been 8-9 years! What is another 8-9 years of wasteful spending and total disregard for the public?

Wow samb, you must be on the same "rage juice" as WAYL. The WECRD did nothing to honor the military...the theme of their float was all about them and had NOTHING to do with the theme of the parade. Nice try.

And a further FYI for you. Mr. Freer did NOT ask for thousands and thousands of dollars for "JUST" youth baseball. He went before the WECRD Board on behalf of ALL YOUTH PROGRAMS. Pull your head out already. He said that ANYTHING they would be willing to give would work because the needs of the kids are always more than what those programs bring in. The WECRD Board was approached 2 times for funds. THEY SAID NO BOTH TIMES!!! And the best part, we said the same thing that you just did----give something----anything---and we will have one less thing to gripe about. Nope! THEY SAID NO! THOSE 3 PEOPLE SAID NO TO ALL YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. But hey, they can spend $1,700 on a float because it is what THEY wanted to do.

That is what all of this boils down to. If one of "them" is involved with the summer concerts in the park, they give to that to support their own. They gave money to Betty Ashcraft one year (one year of many) for something and it was not what Betty wanted. She went back to them for MORE money at the end of the meeting and got it! TACKY!!!!! Marsha Sellers told me that no more than $300.00 would be spent on AFAD (because she was in charge of the event for AFAD and the "budget"). My how that changed! Nearly five times OVER budget there Marsha but I am sure it was just what you wanted to tell me that night (when you called me at 9:45 at night on a Sunday night returning my call to you which I placed during the day on a Friday) as opposed to anything based on factual numbers since the banner proposed was over $300.00 by ITSELF (the one Judy got the estimate for from Grubb Bros.).

See folks, this is a recreation district. It is not for the DV Council. It is not for a therapy pool, which, by law, would be in a hospital district (as opposed to a recreation district as proposed). It is not a facility that should have a stage so that plays can be done in/at it. We voted for a RECREATION DISTRICT! What is so hard to understand about what is allowed by law with this? People should be pissed that money goes to concerts in the park. People should be reallllllly pissed that LITTLE money has gone to recreation since we started being taxed for this white elephant. If this does not make you mad, you are brain dead and stupid and maybe you should give Mollie, Marsha and Jana your personal checkbooks. Maybe then, some of these really stupid decisions that these 3 people make would really hit home with some of you (and by "hit home" I mean make you more upset that YOUR money is being thrown away by these 3 people OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN). But then again that involves common sense and that seems to be lacking around here.

By all means, let the games begin. Maybe Beth will crawl out from under her rock and share more wisdom with us. I am up for a good laugh on this Sunday night.

samb, I find it hard to believe that you ever served. You have no respect for your fellow brothers and sisters.

In case you missed it, BSU is now ranked #5 in the nation in football. BOISE !!!!!!!! STATE !!!!!!

Samb,

To quote you "That is the right you have maybe not earned, maybe have earned, I personally have shed blood, sweat, and tears to give you "buttheads" the right to be idiots." So I only responded using terms you seem to love and know. You are correct that you never named anyone in your original post. But as an opponent of the WECRD and one who has made many comments about their actions, I inferred that I was one of the 3 that you mentioned.

What upset me the most about your post is no where can I find where anyone every said they were not supportive of the military. What many of us do not support is the self serving action of the WECRD board. To assume as you did that because we do not agree with these actions means we do not support the military is way out in left field, at least for this guy.

I made no threats in my post and if you took my one statement "that was not a smart move on your part" as a threat that is your interpretation of it. What I meant was it seems like you make statements on here just to rile people up and in this MILITARY community, to say that one does not support them is sure to upset some people. When you make statements like you did then you should be ready for some sort of negative reaction.

MsMarylin,

I can offer some advice to the girl you know that signed up for boot camp. Tell her to listen to everything and I mean everything that her instructors tell her as her life depends on it. No matter how ridiculous the rule sounds, she should follow it to the letter. I still remember a speech a CMSgt gave about what happens when you don't follow simple instructions. He talked about how he did not follow the instructions on how to wash his shirt. He did it the way he wanted. Things did not turn out right. To illustrate his point, he took off his jacket and the back of his shirt was full of holes from the amount of bleach he used. Lastly, let her know that they are going to teach her how to work as a team towards a common goal. Wish her luck from this retired AF guy.

Samb,

vetran

scrafies

reframe (wrong word for the use)

Sam I know people who signed for 4 yrs got out then re-enlisted again. Some went from AF to Army or Army to AF...... I was an AF Brat lol ! and then later an AF wife

msM i left for a while but came back when i retired for the 3rd time

Thank you Sam for serving our Country......below are your words.

I personally have shed blood, sweat, and tears to give you "buttheads" the right to be idiots.

May I ask how long you have been stationed here?

Hey old man to bad I only went a litle to far. BIG DEAL. I did not mention anybody in my post so if the shoe fits...... As a vetran thank you for all the scrafies you made and the service to our country. qouted from OLD MAN "I thoroughly enjoy and use the right I fought for over 20 years and that my children defend every day. I think you are an idiot for saying something like this in a military community such as ours. This was not a smart move on your part but then again, I spent 20 years defending that right and losing many friends that defended your right to be the way you are".

So old man i will enjoy those rights, as i think you have been going to far for a long time. I knew you could not reframe from resorting back to your name calling it is who you are. And oh yea was that a threat "This was not a smart move on your part" once again thank you

Samb,

You went a little too far. This "Butthead" not only gave blood sweat and tears but lost many good friends on the way to protecting your right to be rude and ignorant. I have a problem with a government agency (WECRD) spending money on things besides recreation. They were formed to improve recreation for this community and I, for one, fail to see where they have done that in the past 9 years.

And never once little person have I opposed the good men and women of the military. Heck all four of my children are either military or married to military. Even though I have retired, I continue to support both morally and financially the military. I not only open my doors for them but donate money and when I have extra items, they are the first people I go to and see if they can use it first.

Show me how the WECRD showed support for the military. In my opinion, they used the event to promote themselves. They were about the only organization I saw that day walking around handing out flyers. And those flyers were made using the hard earned money of the community of which many are the military. They take the money of the military and the rest of community and only give back a few pennies to their pet programs.

I thoroughly enjoy and use the right I fought for over 20 years and that my children defend every day. I think you are an idiot for saying something like this in a military community such as ours. This was not a smart move on your part but then again, I spent 20 years defending that right and losing many friends that defended your right to be the way you are.

Many of us wish the WECRD would have at least offered to support youth baseball with any amount but instead they flat our denied the request. Then they went ahead and voted to donate money to an organization that one the volunteers is involved with. Funny how that worked out huh?

Eagle, thanks for those figures on what the WECRD spent on a parade. Nice to know they can spend $421.50 on t-shirts and $80.00 on a boxing ring but could not find it in their hearts to give ONE SINGLE DIME to youth recreation programs.

I am so glad that I get to "donate" to this organization through taxes and all of the money that I pay them for copies. I cannot wait to see their fiscal year spending for last year's budget.

At the last WECRD BM the board stated they wanted to save all of the money they could. Well, I guess that only comes into play when they want it to. They plan to send the same mailing/flyer from AFAD out to every household in the WECRD District. So, not only did we pay for it once...but we will pay for it again. Wise investment Mollie and Marsha. What about your agreement with the CDLC? A quick review of the July 22, 2009 Meeting Minutes will remind you all of your "promise" and to allow the CDLC/Y process to "work." Guess you forgot!

Directly from the WECRD web page today under WECRD Facts. Someone please remind me again why we have the CDLC and the Y if the WECRD CONTINUES to claim that THEY have the facility designed? Why are we spending all of this money to determine needs and what WE are willing to pay for if you already know what you (the WECRD Board) are going to do?

"Facility is Designed"

"Architect has worked with WECRD to refine an efficient design that implements suggestions by a broad range of community residents with varied ages and interests (significant hours and materials have been donated in pursuit of this facility)."

Of further interest...how Mr. Olson never made it to the bid process and was "hired" by the WECRD anyway. Also in the minutes as "proof" to how these people do nothing wrong.

For those that can't get to the WECRD office to see what was spend on AFAD

Chamber Space rent $105

Chamber 2nd space $55.00

Pauls Coolers $39.26

Marsha Sellers Boxing ring $80.00

Float supplies $251.15

Zurchers $110.32

Michaels $6.36

ID Team Sports $421.15, nice to spend on theselves instead of any youth program(t-shirts)

Chris Miller Gas $40.00 (to pull the float)

Pauls candy, water, ice $239.42

UPS flyers $331.39

Judy (Gail S.) tape $37.04

Marsha Sellers misc. $61.42

All these figures I have right from the WECRD, so if you want to question any of those numbers call them. Just another case of spending money of on themsselves. What a way to build a rec district debt free. If anyone that does go by the office during business hours never find any of the board directors, if they don't have time to be there during what they call office hours then they should not be on the board taking tax dollars for there pipe dream. We need people running that office that has a clue what they are doing.

FYI: The CLDC meetings are the 3rd Thursday of the month at the Mt Home Public Libary starting at 4:30. They are open to the public.

Concerning the money spent on the AFAD float by the WECRD. In my humble taxpayer opinion, they spent far too much. I was involved and have been involved for many years with a float and we spend at most $500 per year and that includes the candy and items we throw. Anyone have an idea what the money was spent on?

I, and this is just this taxpayer's OPINION, would have much rather seen that money go towards supporting a local youth team or sport. Just think of the equipment or officials that could have been provided. Not only could a child have benefited but the local economy could have been stimulated by providing a local business or local person with some much needs funds. Way to give back to the community WECRD.

On housing growth within the community, I think, and once again this is my OPINION, the community leaders need to look at how many empty houses there are, how many proposed subdivisions have not been finished BEFORE approving any more. Just within 3 blocks of me, there are 3 new subdivisions, two have just a few standing houses in them with many empty lots and the other one just has a sign as it has for over a year now. Why not encourage these to be completed before adding more burden on the city?

Disclaimer: I have no FACTS to back up the above statements. They are my OPINION and hence are just my thoughts on some subjects. The only one that is fact is the one concerning the CLDC and if you want proof of that, ask and I will provide it or better yet verify it with a member of the CLDC.

midea and Vic, I agree. Makes a person kind of feel sick...

This worries me.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

And here was my letter to Ms. Erwin so everyone has all of the facts:

Ms. Judy Erwin, Secretary/Treasurer

Western Elmore County Recreation District

P.O. Box 1347

Mountain Home, Idaho 83647

RE: Your letter to me dated February 5, 2009

Dear Ms. Erwin:

I received your letter to me dated February 5, 2009. First, I fail to see how you could not see the "discrepancies" in the information I provided to you if you went line by line.

In this letter, I will only address the Profit & Loss Budget vs. Actual, October 2006-September 2007 (Document A hereinafter P & L) and WECRD Statement of Revenues, Expenditures and Changes in Fund Net Assets for the Year Ended September 30, 2007 (Document B hereinafter SREC).

1. "Total Income" (from P & L) and "Total Operating Revenues" (SREC) differ by $1,365.05 ($281,424.05-$280,059.00). Income figures/Revenues do not match on either document.

2. "Contract Labor" is off by $945.00 ($5251.00-$4,306.00). However, this figure could be offset by the "Cleaning" category which is on the P & L but not on the SREC. I do not know if this is the case but the numbers are the same.

3. Where is "Depreciation" accounted for/figured in on P & L ($1,591.00 on SREC only)?

4. "Legal and Accounting" on SREC is $7,014.00. On the P & L it is $2,865.00 (legal only). When "Financial Services" are added in from P & L in the amount of $3,615.00 ($3,600.00+$15.00) the total is $6,480.00. That is a difference of $534.00 between the two (2) documents.

5. There is no "Cleaning" listed on the SREC yet it appears on the P & L. Please also refer to number 2 above regarding this item.

6. "Miscellaneous" on the SREC is listed as $449.00 yet on the P & L is listed as zero (0) which is a difference between the two (2) documents of $449.00.

Ms. Judy Erwin

Western Elmore County Recreation District

February 16, 2009

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7. "Office Supplies" on the SREC is $3,256.00 yet on the P & L is listed as $1,664.62 for a difference between the two (2) documents of $1,591.38.

8. "Technology" is listed on the P & L as $3,056.46 but is not listed on the SREC.

9. "Telephone & Internet" on the P & L is listed as $2,455.51 but listed on the SREC as $2,403.00 for a difference of $52.51 between the two (2) documents.

10. "Utilities" on the SREC are listed as $3,255.00 but listed on the P & L as $2,653.64 for a difference of $601.36 between the two (2) documents.

11. "Salaries, Wages and Payroll Taxes" are listed on the SREC as $28,075.00 but are on the P & L as $23,270.37 ("Payroll") and $5,283.91 ("Payroll Taxes") which totals $28,554.28 ($23,270.37+$5,283.91) for a difference of $479.28 between the two (2) documents.

12. "Office Equipment" is listed on the P & L for $519.96 but not listed on the SREC.

13. "Irrigation" is listed on the P & L for $720.00 but not on the SREC. If the land is being leased to a farmer, to farm, are the irrigation costs being paid back to the WECRD by the farmer that leases the land or are those costs being absorbed by the taxpayers? Where is that money accounted for/deposited?

14. "Dues and Subscriptions" are listed on the P & L for $434.00 but is not listed on the SREC.

15. "Net Income/Increase in Net Assets" (on the P & L and SREC) totals differ. Why?

16. "Total Operating Expenditures/Total Expenses (on the P & L and SREC) do not match. Why?

When I met with you the first time regarding these "differences" you stated the documents we had, were printed on two (2) different dates and the fiscal year had not ended which made the information incomplete. I have gone over the previous year, which I have attached, and the numbers are still off as explained above. It would seem that the P & L should mirror the SREC and there should be NO differences between the two (2) since one of the documents is an "Audit" document. How can an audit be "accurate" if you have not provided complete and correct information? Does the person doing the "audit" check receipts, documents/

Ms. Judy Erwin

Western Elmore County Recreation District

February 16, 2009

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documentation or do they simply take your word that the figures are indeed the correct numbers? An "audit" is only as good as the information/data provided.

Regarding the "audit is more concise" comment. It was not one of us that wrote that comment on the document, I believe it was Mollie since she sat with us and went over all of the documents that day. I do not understand your confusion regarding the comment since you are the person who keeps the books. Mollie stated that the "audit" was more concise than other figures. That statement is a bit shocking because the "Audit Summary" appears to be missing some figures which would make an "audit" less than accurate. I do not understand why you zoned in on a hand written note but were unable to "see any discrepancies" in the documents. I am not paid by the WECRD to maintain their books, you are. It would stand to reason that an "Actual P & L" should mirror an audit and there should be no "discrepancies" as that would indicate the auditor did not have all of the information, facts and figures.

I shall look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

Tracy A. Lauric

My previous post was Ms. Erwin's ONLY explanation to the above.

Enjoy your day everyone.

SAS212: Your prediction was right. This Banterbox wears on a person. I tried to start a positive chat the other day about community growth. It started out great with people commenting on their opinions and no one bashing eachother's comments but then I see it is right back to WERCD and OM bashing. I am tired!

Anyways; Happy Friday everyone! Here's another joke for Friday:

Will was trying to to teach his son the evils of alcohol.

He put a worm in a glass of water & another in a glass of whiskey.

The worm in the water lived while the one in the whiskey curled up & died.

"All right, son," Said Will, "what does that show you?"

"Well dad, it shows that if you drink alcohol you will not have worms."

I agree with SAS on two accounts: 1) the meanness and personal attacks are very ugly and will come back on you; and 2) I like turtles too...in my soup.

On the WECRD, people will continue to disagree. People say OM has weakened her credibility and the anti stance because of the way she states her case. Maybe she has. But that doesn't change one thing that is in any of the reports she's received from the district. I've gone through the reports myself, and have come to the conclusion that she is right. If you can look past personalities and objectively review the facts you can form your own opinion supported by fact based reality, not emotion.

As for feeding trolls -- don't do it. It's difficult sometimes, but you must attempt to maintain your dignity. I admit to being caught up in their "drama" for lack of a better term. But in the end it's best to restrain yourself, draw a line in the sand so to speak, and ignore the trolls. I liken them to people who write computer viruses, spyware, and malware. They take pleasure in making other people miserable and prey on good natured people. Unfortunately there's no software or program you can download to protect yourself against people like that. Rewire your brain and build your own program to avoid them before being duped into playing into their hands.

It's Friday. Fall is on the way. Get outside and enjoy the weekend.

SAS,

I personally missed your contributions here. I enjoy your wit and the times you write from the heart. I do have to disagree with this statement: "Then I see newbie's AFW and SAMB wanting only the best for this town and offering support and trying to keep positive in all that they post. I was like that, until it wore me out trying to stay ahead of all the criticism and negativity. Believe me, it'll get to you too!" I have a totally different view of SAMB. I went back to July 18th and reread all of SAMB's posts and found nothing that I would consider best for our town or positive. You may know this person at a level beyond this board, but the impression I have does not match yours. Just my opinion.

For all of you dipstick jackass's I took the time to go to the WECRD office to find out what was spend on the AFAD and I have it in black and white, you can do the same, I will say it was under 2 thousand dollars, I also checked on where the money is for the copies of requests some of us make. Did have a very nice chat while I was there.

You got it right wworkingbee, right on target

pot - kettle EE... how's that "gossip" smile working for you?

Why anyone would listen or even reply to WAYL is beyond me just another jackass that only their opinion counts and knows it all sure can tell eveyone else what they should think, AAlways cut Om down for her opinion but look who now wants to be in the drivers sit. And NO WAYl I not going to comment back to your trash, you just want to be in control you lose.

Whyarentyoumakingsense.

"WB the best you can do is be the spell check police"

What exactly does that mean...police what... please educate me.

Whyarentyoumakingsense...........whatever you are trying to say, you might want to spell it completely out, because it was lost in translation.

WB the best you can do is be the spell check police. your intellect is showing or is your lack of... yup that's it.

Samb,

OM has as much right to write on this banter box as you do.

By the way the word is civil not civial, just a FYI

Anyone know who won the coin toss?

Concrete facts have been "put up" but OM's continued lies and false accusations haven't shutup. All the "facts" she has ever presented are what? She and you don't agree with budget allocations or the progress of the center. So flipping what. Get on the board and PUT UP or SHUT UP... but NO her excuse is "I didn't what to try because I wouldn't make it" sounds like a pitiful cry of cowardice. Yeah criticize those that do, while doing nothing but blah blah blah blah blah... yup so happy the lying trash is back at it.

Where are the proof of the complaints and the responses she said she would post? Where is the proof that the board has been stealing as she as stated time and time again.

FACTS no, lies and accusations yes.

If her data is so profound and correct... Where are the charges of malfeasances?

AG, SOS, local prosecutor all deny any knowledge of any misconduct.

So throw out more accusations and bull and people like OG can suck it up from the foul teat of OM's "facts" and say it is true.

For those of us in the real world. ... PUT UP or SHUT UP!!!!!

Eagerly awaiting your proof....none yet! Just statements saying there is, lies lies lies. Have another pill, OM. Elections office? No wrong doing according to the SOS, so more proof of your allegations being false!!!

Hey OG, sounds to me like you didn't really listen to your MOM.

Samb,

OG was not civial. He was taking a few days to rethink how much posting he had been doing.

Let me say what some others might be thinking. It is time for you and other OM haters to PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Provide us concrete proof that OM has provided bad/false information. If you can't then crawl back under that rock of yours and stay there.

While I may not agree with some of OM's choice of words, I understand her passion and her message.

And, if you choose to make a personal attack on me, bring it on little man. I have been shot at, beaten on and by far better people than you. So let your insults fly and land where they may.

OM, you keep being the beacon you have been and providing the public information as you have. I have been on the receiving end of your information and never once have you tried to force your opinion on me. Instead you presented the facts and sources and encourage the rest of us to research them and arrive at our own decision.

Don't forget the feathers. You can't have a good tarring without feathers. Tar and feathers just naturally go together.

I agree with FNG0312. Besides family, the only people who should be allowed at the coin flip are the 90 WHO TOOK THE TIME TO VOTE.

I too have had the same experience as MHgirl at Joe's. Went there a few years ago and received the same poor quality food and worse service. Then again recently (both times we visited were at someone else's request) where I found the food to still be of poor quality and the service had not improved. I will not go back for any reason.

However, my friends LOVE the food and the people there so it all boils down to an individual's preference. As I said for me, I will NEVER give my business to that establishment again.

I look forward to trying the Manhattan Bistro since reading the raves posted on the BB. The DillyDeli is one of my absolute favorites for lunch, excellent food and it gets to the table quickly with reasonable prices.

the food at Joe's is good. Also cant wait for Wingers to open. Bring on the Wings!!!! A coin toss, you have to be kidding.

Wow!! Just got back in town. What has happened to OM's blog........this time?

Trust me, no matter how you feel about the commercial opportunities in Mountain Home, if there was a profit to be made, the business would already be here.

I anyone cares, the coin toss with Mr Houston and Mr Murry over the last election it will be held at the Junior High not the school district office but nobody told us that Mr Houston should lose the toss then I have been told onward to the Supreme count for the finally answer, another case of the school district really knows what they are doing. Yea right they always know best, looks like another clean house.

So funny that this is the topic today as I was hopping on to post about Joes Steak house!

Yuck. Have any of you eaten there (or tried?)? What a horrible experience. The s-l-o-w service, the mediocre food, the s-l-o-w service is also very poor...they brought us the wrong check!

I waited tables through college, and I always tip 20%...if the service is just "ok," I'll at least tip 15%. I told the person paying not to tip at all! 10 minutes before anyone took a drink order, another 15 before one person came to take our order! We still didn't have the right drinks! Food was forever s-l-o-w...

What a disappointment that they can get away with that as there are no other restaurants in town, so they are going to continue getting business. Shame.

As for businesses coming into the community:

The "City" has no say in who can come to MH. None. The restaurants we'd like to come have been invited by several business owners/people in the area, but won't come without a liquor license, and want a population in town of at least 15,000 (they don't count the base, outside city limits, or the surrounding communities! The last census put us at just over 11,000...so no commercial businesses/restaurants. As for the liquor license, there are 17 (I'm pretty sure) assigned to ELMORE County, that are all owned right now and that are CONTROLLED BY THE STATE!! The City of MH tried to get this changed, but it was voted down at legislation (talk to Neilson!).

The Business Improvement District has a plan that has been set in motion and things are rolling forward to attract new business to the District, and they will be able to apply for grants, and set up initiatives to raise funds for Public art, and other ways of improving downtown to attract commerce; but until the next census proves we have enough people here to support a restaurant and more liquor license become available, we are stuck.

I'm in line with the more business-good, more housing-bad train of thought. If we don't have the businesses to attract more people, then we don't need more houses. While we need a nice steak and seafood restaurant, and clothing stores, and a good sporting goods store, we don't just need more minimum wage businesses. We need more business that can pay enough to keep people from commuting to Boise to earn a decent living.

Like many others, I commute to Boise every day. There is no business in Mountain Home that can pay me what I need to support my family. There is no Saltgrass Steak House I can take the family to in town, or anything even close. There is no store in town I can buy clothes for work. There is no sporting goods store in town unless you count the couple of isles in Wal-Mart.

Another survey is not the answer; providing the community with what they've already asked for is. Maybe the city doesn't want to ante up for the incentives some claim businesses have passed up Mountain Home over. I don't know. But that's part of the perception of why we don't have more business in town. While not providing a lot of high paying jobs for sure, isn't that Winger's in the county, not the city?

I also do not want more housing! We had 3 homes for sale on our street for over a year and a couple got forclosed on. I think we do need some new/fresh things in Mtn Home! Bring on Target and olive garden... LOL!

I only go to Boise if I have to go and then I try to get what I need so I don't have to go back again for a long time. It is just to crowded for me. lol !

I would love to see a craft store or another consignment craft store for the crafter's who want to sell what they have made.

We need more clothing stores especially childrens clothing.

What ever happened to "Wingers" coming in here?

Stinger,

Thank you for your reply. I totally agree with everything you said. It is so hard not to have to run to Boise and about the survey's it gets so frustrating because my husband and I for years have filled those out in "Great Detail" and nothing gets done. I would like to see nicer restaurants and a childrens clothing store. I can't find much for clothing for my daughter at wal-mart and usually end up in Boise. ALso I would like to see a scrapbooking shop, (considered opening one) with other crafts too, also would like to see a target.

Pandora Wells:

I see your point, but I think that as the community starts adding more commercial businesses more people would enjoy staying in mtn home and not move to Boise and would encourage the residental growth. Hmmm...not sure either way.

Someone else had said something about cleaning up the trailor parks and cruddy parts of town. AMEN! I agree. I think American legion needs some work on it. Lots of other areas.

Thanks everyone for your comments!

WAYL,

That list is AWESOME!!! just made my day reading it. Thank you :-)

AFW It would be great to be able to buy something as simple as a gate hinge, but noone here had the size I required. I had to do a trip to Home Depot, so repairs to my gate cost about $35. The City has done at

least 3 surveys since we moved here to 'see what the community wants' well nothing has been done. I understand fully that the 'little stores' could go out of business but look at Heddas, for years she has supported this town in many ways. people drove past and went to Boise. Since she announced that she was closing droves of people stopped and at 50% off why not, but these were people who NEVER stopped before, so does a store have to close to get customers in. too bad, I do not want to shop at Walmart for Christmas. So I have to drive to Boise and pay for gas or buy online and pay for shipping. Mtn. Home is a nice small town, but it has to move forward. I would encourage all the sports Mom/Dads who have to make a run to Boise for apparel/equipment and demand of the city that they work really hard to support parents in this. Have they contacted Big 5 I guess not, I have, have they contacted Winco? I have, but we should call or visit the Mayors office and ask why ? Why did we do all the surveys, Why can't the Economic Development office let us know just how many businessess were contacted and encouraged monthly to move to Mtn Home? and mostly what kind of business would you like to see here? there are lots, give us all a idea so maybe a few of us can run with it. I'd think a good reputable Petstore would be good, how about a fabric shop, lots of sewers out there? shoes, apparel,a place to take a 'crowd' for lunch/dinner what does your list look like?

Stinger,

The Y isn't going to have recommendations for a year and if something is ever built the opening won't be until at least 2013. I have looked at the process and I understand that it will be a lot of work but it would be worth it. I'm confident that the Acorn district will be dissolved. February just means more time to get more signatures and inform more people. Hopefully the CLDC can prove it's worth by then and when the district is dissolved the city or the county will keep them on and re-task them to figure out what recreation we can have that can sustain itself through memberships.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7K0Dp2M2...

To the family & friends who losted a love one to suicide last week, my heart goes out to you !

Have a great hump day

I agree with you OG.

IMO The reason this developer is trying to get the land annexed into the City is because the new County ordinances, without exception, would require this developer to have ALL infrastructure in place PRIOR to the issuance of even 1 building permit. As well as a few other hard hurdles.

Under the City, the ordinances are not as strict and the possibility to come back and amend their conditional use permit to allow for less infrastructure is possible. The cost to bring City services (water & sewer) under the freeway through all that volcanic bedrock will be exorbitant. It makes me leery as to if their true intent is to get the subdivision approved by the City and then come back to ask for an amendment to their CUP allowing individual wells and septic systems. Which would not be a allowed under the current County Ordinances. We shall see how this proceeds. I believe the two letters written to the MHN make excellent points.

Finally we got some new season shows on now ! Last night I watched CSI Miami and Tonight yea ! NCIS is back and tomorrow night "Criminal Minds'

What a BEAUTIFUL sun shiny day!!!! Full of promise and light.

I sure am enjoying this wonderful first day of autumn.

Wish all of you the same!

A.D. if you want to go with the removal of current Directors, that's a whole different ball game, you may want to research just how you have to do that! Lots and lots of work on that puppy, involving (3) or how many people you are planning to remove) separate voting systems. 3 different ballots, etc. So best to wait till the Y comes up with their results.

OG: you are completely right!

I feel it is a shame that OM decided to remove her blog. While I may not have agreed with some of her words or mannerism, she did present many well researched facts. She presented those facts and where she retrieved them from so a person could look for themselves and make a personal choice. It would be great if other people showed their sources. Some of her opponents recently resorted to personal attacks, which she took in stride and refused to respond to (go ahead let me have it). I hope she continues with the same dedication she has shown over these past months.

I predict that some will try to entice me into a war of words over my post but I don't think I will engage them. Like my Momma says, nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. Words of wisdom to me.

If the petition to dissolve the, "taxation without recreation district", fails then a recall of the board should be initiated. With a board of five directors, new members committed to transparency, and some people with some business sense, this thing would go as smooth as can be. Acorn type waste and misdirection would be a thing of the past. Dissolve the Acorn district.

OM On a positive note now that you don't have a blog to write you have more time and energy to stay focused on the cause you truly believe in "WECRD" and more time to get some more signatures

OM,

Please make sure petition is filed and the vote is done, Nov or Feb makes no difference with the number of signatures you already have the answer is CLEAR... mud slinging or not the "people" have spoken!

YES, Virginia....there IS a Santa Claus!!!!!!!!!!!!

OM Sorry to see you remove your blogs. Wishing you all the best now and in the future !

What a sad day that OMis removing her blogged. Ireallyed reading it and making sure I Knew what was going on in town. I hope you put it back soon.. Hope you didn's let these ugly minded people on here run you away.

Just a question to throw out.

Can someone file before the Sept 25th deadline to run against Molly? I was just wondering if this might be an alternative to waiting until Feb for an election?

Happy Monday everyone! Can we please go all week without anyone mentioning 'you know who' and 'you know what'??? That would be great. I mean really, can anything NEW be said about 'you know what'? I think not. There are so many other things in the world or Mountain Home to discuss.

Heard on the scanner about a fire in the median I84 MP 129. Sounds pretty bad with the wind blowing so hard. Have not heard if it is out yet or not.

Thanks to all who responded to my question about the Farmer's Market. My wife and I walked through it and there went to Carl Miller Park and back. We noticed many things we never noticed before. Except for the idiot that never slowed down on American Legion as we were in the crosswalk, it was a nice start to the day. Thanks to the lady coming out near Moxie that agreed with us what a bonehead the guy on American Legion was.

If for some reason the election got pushed back past March, I would be VERY happy! I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like to vote!!

WorkingBee,

Thanks for the info on the Farmer's Market.

I do appreciate the clarification, MsM... let's leave it with this thought.

Intent is hard to determine when written on a blog site, neither you nor I intended to offend the other.

Please have a good morning.

MsM, maybe I should have said to you I don't believe I have ever "usual language" toward you, but if I had....

I do NOT have the same passion as OM, as I am not an unhinged zealot with a messiah complex that attacks all asunder.

I was developing a sense of respect for you from reading most of your postings... On this subject however I will take a cue from OG and "agree to disagree"

WAYL: Sorry if you took my post as saying "your usual language was directed towards our converstion". Its my error What I was saying is your usual banner aimed at others and I didn't want you to come back slamming me. Sorry I didn't make my message more clear. I don't know you and you don't know me...... messages come out without emotion unless you or me are screaming or letters in caps show. I realize you have the same passion as OM does.

MsMarylin

Sorry for the confrontation i have been mistaken in my responses to you I apologizes for being inconsiderate and a little snippy. I Now know you are not a OM follower just a passionate person. And as to who I am I will meet you at the local pub for a cold beverage and a long talk tomorrow evening so we can and might become friends, please invite OM. See ya there.

Working Bee what flavor of Kool-Aid are you drinking, Johnny walker or cheap vodka? have some more.

WAYL: I am not being rude nor am I naive.... like I said I have lived to long to be naive, I have either been through it or seen it. Nothing in this walk of life has left me out ! I am not afraid of OM I have met my challenge years ago and never had the fear ever since. She does not scare me and I am not afraid of her. I have lived in this town for 31 yrs and have not been afraid of people who live here.

I thank you for not using your usual language on me because I think we can talk as adults

Samb,

You didn't get enough Kool-aid yet did you?

MsMarylin

Still you defend her rudeness. Ok so you want to know who i am but you also stat it does not matter so what is it . Keep talking in circles and contradicting yourself. Ok just for you my name is Sam last name startes with B What am I afraid of your wacko psycatic self. Just to help i live within the city limits, Good luck on your search of the unknown.

Samb do you really think I am obessed with knowing who posts on here? I also don't recall OM as God. I just happen to like to know who is speaking and who I am speaking to. I have revealed myself along with others and why can't the unknowns reveal theirself? Why do you think I am a cronie of hers, I only stated that I met her? Naive Not, I have lived to many years on this planet to be Naive. Vindictive I am not vindictive where do you get that in my post?

Why are you so afraid to meet her? She really isn't that scary and if she was rude and slammed people on here get over it, at least we know who she is...What about the unknowns that can so easily post on here without anyone knowing who they are. Come on Samb reveal yourself. I have and many others have. What are YOU in fear of?

MsMarylin

What is your obsession with knowing who someone is? And still your precise OM is a GOD, NOT, she and you are something but god does not come to my mind, A lot lower hotter place comes to mind where evil is present. Why would anyone want to meet her in person when her demeanor on this web site is so vile and filled with hatred. OH wait that is passion in your mind; hatred, psycho and certifiable only applies to those that question her and her cronies (you) come to mind. You are as unbelievably naive as the rest of the blind followers, so she says so it is fact. There has been enough rebuttable (by many) of her facts to show they are half truths but yet you all choice to believe. For excellent fact finders and researchers to bad the dead line was missed, now this can be dragged on for another 5 months. Maybe it that time you guys and gals can do better research. GOOD LUCK with your vindictive stance, not against the WERCD but the people on the board. Have a nice day evening and weekend.

OG that sounds like a plan walking and stopping at Moxie. lol ! I am not sure when they close down Railroad Park for the season but its worth checking out.

OG I don't know for sure but I think farmers market should still be going on as there are more crops that need to be harvested.

I will ask again, just in case my first question was overlooked,

Does anyone know if the Farmer's Market is still going on in Railroad Park on Saturday? I can't remember and am looking for a purpose for my 3 mile walk. Any help would be appreciated.

WAYL, your desperate attempts to disparage OM are getting crazier every week. You are not convincing anyone of anything other than your own instability.

-- Posted by PCbetty on Fri, Sep 18, 2009, at 9:52 AM

Do you not read the other side of this personell fued OM started it a long time ago BUT AS FAR AS YOU ARE CONCERNED she is an innocent victim of a person attack by so many NOT JUST WAYL on this site. She OM has been mean rude and vile and threating to way to many diffenert people to count. WAKE UP!!!! One person can not carry out a fued.

AD YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT

lovemtnhome

how can you even say this?????????

Whyarentyoulistening:

I do not think OM is going to hurt you. Maybe you should be careful how you word thing when you are on the bb. If You have every meet OM she is a very nice down to earth person. She cares about our county and what happening in it..to bad more people are not like her.

Have you not read the vile hatful and extremly rude things she OM has wrote on this site? Seams to me there are a lot of people like her, but you call the nuts crazy insane and tell them to seek help when you put OM an a pedistal. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone know if the Farmer's Market is still going on in Railroad Park?

Also went to Manhattan Bistro today and both my wife and I give it four huge thumbs up. Food was great, service was cheerful and the building is historic. The owner has tried well to build upon this aspect. I felt like I was either in a saloon from the 1800's or back in my Grandma's house. I would highly recommend stopping in.

This could be a strange outcome, the problem with the election should have been taken care of before either one was sitted on the board, now the person there may have to leave and the other guy be sitted.

Thanks for the jokes ! This is fun we should do something lighthearted every Friday on here. It's a nice change !

Since the topic seems to be Friday laughs (to take a break from all the political talk) :)

The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: Get their Parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it.

The next day, the kids came back and, one by one, began to tell their stories. There were all the regular types of stuff: spilled milk and pennies saved. But then the teacher realized, much to her dismay, that only Ernie was left.

'Ernie, do you have a story to share?'

'Yes ma'am. My daddy told a story about my Aunt Karen. She was a pilot in Desert Storm, and her plane got hit. She had to bail out over enemy territory, and all she had was a flask of whiskey, a pistol, and a survival knife. She drank the whiskey on the way down so the bottle wouldn't break, and then her parachute landed her right in the middle of 20 Enemy troops.

She shot 15 of them with the pistol, until she ran out of bullets, took out four more with the knife, till the blade broke, and then she took out the last enemy with her bare hands.'

'Good Heavens,' said the horrified teacher. 'What did your daddy tell you was the moral to this horrible story?

**'Stay the heck away from Aunt Karen when she's been drinking'**

Beau - I missed your 'drink flavors contest' but had a good chuckle at your recent post about the 'garden hose' flavored drink. That is the flavor I remember best too, especially those days when it was super hot and the hose had that dirt/rubber/metallic taste going on. Yum! ;O) Koolaid was such a luxury back then ....

Thanks for the cheer and good humor. We need much more of that around here. Have a great weekend!

yob:

Check myself and they county will have to pay fo the election in Feb when OM and her group get these names turned in for the FEb election.

Whyarentyoulistening:

I do not think OM is going to hurt you. Maybe you should be careful how you word thing when you are on the bb. If You have every meet OM she is a very nice down to earth person. She cares about our county and what happening in it..to bad more people are not like her.

Why don't we keep trying to stay positive and disengage from power struggles? You can't be forced into an argument. You only enter into one if you choose to do so. Please, take the road less traveled.

WAYL, your desperate attempts to disparage OM are getting crazier every week. You are not convincing anyone of anything other than your own instability.

Danger?? For Real?? Danger Will Wobinson Danger!!

Let's make this Positive Friday ! No postings of political agenda's today. Post fun things jokes light and fluffy stuff.

*******WARNING FOR SOMEONE WHO SIGNED THE PETITION AGAINST THE WERCD AT AFAD!!!!!!!!!******

The person who wrote the post below has made it clear that they will do whatever they can to find out my identity - for what vile purposes I don't want to know.

Now, she has decided that someone who signed that petition at AFAD is me. I AM SERIOUSLY AFRAID OF HER DOING SOMETHING TO THAT PERSON NOW THAT SHE HAS ####all their personal info, name, address etc#### So, if you gave out all your personal info on that petition to OM, you could be in danger.

Post made by OM.

'Now, I am at work and have no more time to deal with WAYL and her vile comments. I met you at AFAD and you were nice as pie and signed the petition and told me how hard I have worked on this. My how your story has since changed. Shall we remove your signature? You would not want to back a liar/cheat. Have a very nice day. Join a program.-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Sep 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM'

Beau,

That would have been Donna Fargo. Thanks for putting that song in my head for the rest of the day.;)

YoB,

Not a problem. I figured that it would take some time to gather the information. Just a suggestion, so the BB is not clogged up about the WECRD maybe you can do a blog about it. Some have stated they are tired of reading the same things posted by the same people. It is just an idea.

I will contact one of the people you mentioned to find out when and where the CLDC meets.

Thanks.

I don't want to be a downer on this "Positive Thursday," but I'm so sorry to hear the recent series of tragedies that have impacted families and lives in our community. My deepest condolensces to you who have lost a loved one or friend, or have had a friend injured in an accident on our roads. Stay safe, EC.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/17/m...

Copy and paste the link into your browser and read this story about a fallen soldier who received the Medal of Honor. Please think of our troops. It brought tears to my eyes as I am a veteran and my husband is currently deployed. The father's story is also very touching. Over all great read. Please enjoy!

Per Vivian at the election office today at 11:39 p.m.---NO bond is needed on "my" petition for the WECRD. Never did get a call back from Marsa on the issue.

Talking about nostalgia. I see that Mary Travers from Peter, Paul and Mary has passed away.

3 songs - This land is my land

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5gO-jWKs...

And Puff the Magic Dragon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wik2uc69W...

Lastly - These Times Are a-changing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oU7M4OeS...

Goofy Grape, Root'n Toot'n Raspberry, Jolly Olly Orange, Freckle-Face Strawberry, Loud-Mouth Lime and Choo Choo Cherry. I have to vote for "Jolly Olly Orange"!! Have a great day!

Beau, I thought everyone's favorite was Freckle Face Strawberry.

YoB,

I would like to see you find the ACTUAL dollars spent. I have seen your examples and even said some of them were great.

I also wanted to let you know that I have enjoyed our spirited debates the past months. You have always treated me with respect.

Do you know when/where the CLDC meetings are? I will def try to make one of them. However besides working, I take care of two households which leaves me little free time some weeks. No excuses jut a fact of life.

Samb & WAYL,

I think we can agree to disagree on topics and leave it at that. I don't think I have been rude to you and would ask that you do the same in return. If you feel I have been rude, please accept my regrets.

Please pray for the family of the man killed today in the accident. They are really fine people and this will be very, very hard. I know they would appreciate that. Thank you.

whywhatever and YoB,

Keep drinking the kool-aid

On the side of community and recreation..... please don't forget that

Our Lady of Good Counsel Catholic Church and Alpha Delta Kappa will hold their annual coat drive on Saturday, Oct. 10 from 10 a.m. to noon. For more information call 587-8384

Bruneau Sand Dunes State Park is planning a Fall Arts and Crafts for Children on Sept 26. There is also a Dutch Oven Cook-off and prizes for decorating your campsite for Fall or Halloween.

Hacker students will soon be taking part in the statewide "What We Love About Idaho" poster contest... Let's all be positive and give them great examples to use on their posters......

I for one love the open sky's, I love living in a place where you can see the stars, sometimes so many it seems they compete for your attention..

There are many many more contests, fundraisers and activities in this weeks paper and with the economy the way it is and fall approaching fast there will be many people in need of help in our own community.

I for one am done discussing the WECRD and am going to concentrate my efforts on helping those I can, right now...