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A 17 year-old that I have gone to school with since 5th grade drowned today. Pray for his family, they're good people.

This EPA thing and the last 11 years of global cooling is pretty interesting.

That sounds pretty serious. Is he in pain and if so is he on some pain meds? Did your vet say anything about surgery? I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he will get back to his old self soon.

MsMarylin, this was my first post on what is going on with my Lab when I answered Beau when he asked how he was doing.

My Lab is getting a bit better but he's not well yet and I am still very concerned how things are going to work out. I may as well tell everyone so you all know what is going on, he has a back problem may have crushed a couple of disks and he has some serious problem being able to get up and walk, the meds seem to be helping but there about to run out so guess I will have to get more from the Vet and just keep a close eye on him and not let him run, jump or anything that may hurt him more, I know he doesn't like me takeing him out on a leash in his own play ground but for now thats the way it has to be. Thanks for asking.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Jun 29, 2009, at 3:44 AM

Thanks workingbee my kids and friends keep telling me not to give up he will pull thru just be sure it takes it easy which he is and the meds seem to be helping. He's 9 years old and I know its going to be a slow healing process for him.

I had seen the CUP for Simplot last week, I just wondering what kind of storage tanks they want to build and where, are they for fuel, grain or what.

AD, I will have to find out when it will be back in town again or if they plan to hold a signature "party" in MH like we did. I will have to get back to you on that question as I am not sure who is in charge of it but I will contact the person I saw with it. I am glad that others are willing to sign. I believe that this group will obtain their signatures and we will vote on this. Have a great day.

I too went to the opening of the new old Drive-In on Old Highway 30 that is officially now known as the new "Highway 30 Drive-In". Not too original, but it is a catchy name, and it does have some marketing potential.

I will give them a break because it was their first day. Hopefully lessons were learned. However, I'm not willing to sit in my car for that length of time waiting on a $6.00+ cheeseburger again.

Here's a suggestion.....roller skating car hops. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Congrats on the opening, and good luck.

Beau I think you are right about the Pilot but just can't remember where it was posted.

My Lab is getting a bit better but he's not well yet and I am still very concerned how things are going to work out. I may as well tell everyone so you all know what is going on, he has a back problem may have crushed a couple of disks and he has some serious problem being able to get up and walk, the meds seem to be helping but there about to run out so guess I will have to get more from the Vet and just keep a close eye on him and not let him run, jump or anything that may hurt him more, I know he doesn't like me takeing him out on a leash in his own play ground but for now thats the way it has to be. Thanks for asking.

Beau, your right there was comments on the Air Force officer but don't remember where they were made I do remember Paul R had something to say about it, but haven't seen nothing out of him lately.

AD hope someone answers your question, I know I will sign it also.

Hey OM,

Is one of the topics that you posted on your Blog missing? I could swear that I saw a topic on your blog that included something about the homosexual AF Officer. Now I can not find it.

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Wow, a petition to recall the ECC's guess it goes to show people are not happy with local government either and people being elected or appointed and don't really do the job they were elected or appointed to do. Just could be a wake up call for all those in government the public is getting mad.

I did goof up and left a comment on the photos to hopefully correct it... it was the 4th annual Daniel Dopps Memorial and not the 3rd..... Also I mislabeled the Steer Wrestling as Calf Roping.. Hopefully tomorrow they will post my comment on the photos correcting that.......

Just saw the article on the Mother of 4 losing there home and probably everything in it, surely that gal is going to need alot of help from others in the area, the whole story is not on line so we don't know much except the lose of a home.

Forgot to say we would eat their again. My son the burger eating machine will love it might even fill him up for couple hours!:)

Eagle_eye

We did go and eat. $5.50 for burger with side.

and yes you can drive right in and sit and wait for your food. Huge burgers...I cut mine in half and had for lunch today. I feel we more then got our monies worth..Only thing was they ran out of onion rings. But they will learn. All in all we enjoyed it. I wish them the best of luck.

Thanks Momof 2 anf JT. I guess the drive in is on Hwy 30 past the old Les Shwab on the left correct?

The new drive in did open Sat. We went and got a burger. Huge burger and pretty good. I wish them luck.

There's an awful lot of AEHI information on this website. http://aehitruth.blogspot.com/

Workingbee, it looks like you were in the arena! Great shots!

Jessie

OG, read the article didn't say alot but what I want to comment on is, it looks like the media has found the internet and what words they can find in online dictionary or they have gone out a got a new updated one. I know all the words they use have been around for years but it sure appears like they want to find new stuff in the dictionary to see just how many people they can confuse in what they saying. I really don't see the reasoning behind not keeping it simple and let everyone know what they saying, guess its just a way of saying I smarter than the common public, whatever.

Eagle Eye,

A basic Nikon Digital SLR and a VERY fast shutterspeed.......I am glad you liked them. I was pleased with the shots that I got.

The kids and I had a great time.

AD, I know you don't need any help but reading the comments on your other area, if you want to take the time to meet you know who I can also be avail. just give me a shout and things can be taken of once and for all.

AD, I am sitting here laughing my head off, your statement is so true but when are the bikes riders going to learn they no match for cars and worse yet trucks

Just want you all to look at the article I posted on Tracy's blog dealing with bikes in Boise and the recent deaths over there. So to try and help that is doesn't happen in Mtn Home I have talked with the Chief and the Mayor here today. I suggested they get the word out on what is required by those riding bikes in Mtn Home, I am not sure how they are going to do it yet, but I suggested a blog entry on this site, or maybe on the MHPD site or the Mtn Home site. Both are in agreement the word needs to get out to everyone about bike safety before we have an accident here and they are talking to each other how they are going to get the word out on bikes and I truely believe it won't take them long to get all the info out to everyone.

sas, my comment was not meant to offend you or attack you. Guess your skin got a bit thin while you were away...so glad you are back. Same stuff...different day. Enjoy your day.

I guess the Statesman is out to lunch again that still isn't the article I was reading, the one I was looking and was dealing with Boise and the fines they are going to start over bikes on the street. Oh well guess if anyone wants to see it they will have to look it up for themselves

EE...So I guess Don is wrong with his claims. Our local, Idaho, elected officials have denied these damages for many years. So...nuclear is not as safe as they claim. I wonder when Idaho will learn that hard, costly lesson. Idaho does not have a good nuclear history. That fact is not rocket science.

I don't think purchasing a few new stamps that reflect your new name would be an unreasonable expense. However, to spend hundreds of dollars so that one is placed at each desk is not reasonable when the County is asking for suggestions on how to save money. It seems designating certain staff to the task of stamping her name on documents such as, the original hired jury clerk, would seem like a cost effective way to utilize the employees time and save the County money.

Here is a useful topic that needs to be addressed cause the rules I beleive or different in Mtn Home.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

Is there anyone with any useful information that posts on this Banter Box. Or any intelligent information for that matter. What is the big deal about Marsa updating her stamp to show her current name. Sounds like a very legitimate expense. Someone else is all concerned about issues with his black lab but does not want to share the issues with other readers. What's the deal - just want people to feel sorry for you without knowing why. Come on folks - get some meaningful dialogue going!!!

Yea right just like they have taken care of the stuff at INL and what is trying to happen here with another nuke plant and its waste.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

Thanks OM you know now how my "Boy" is doing, for you that don't know I am dealing with My Black Lab and he has some very serious problems right now and I will deal with it and hope he gets better soon. its all tearing me apart cause of his problems. I am not going to post here what is going on.

Sas you have missed more than the soap opera that outthere is talking about but sure you have gone back and read all the comments so you decide what is a soap opera.

Thanks EE. How is your "boy" doing? Stay cool EE and take care. Just got in from a ride. Learned some new stuff and now I am tired. 38 did me in! LOL:)

Thank you Lucky---it is! I just got the most pretty yellow roses too. What a guy. Thank you for the message. Have a great day and stay cool.

Next thing you know with their raise, they will want the county employees to take a pay cut, or work a day for free so they can make the extra money. Why don't the commissioners go back to part-time positions and give the extra money back to the county?

LoneEagleIdaho

Just cause my last comment got deleted for a couple of letters I used, not to worry I not going away and don't you worry about my cereal your turn is coming cause everyone has figured just who you are and more of your lies. Just because ayrewolf got banned is not going to stop you from being banned also because you changed your ID and Name just to get back on the BB. If you ever get the guts to meet AD hope he leaves a bit of you left for the rest of us, your days around the BB are numbered again.

Oh sas212 welcome back............

Gunfighter, I have no clue who you are either but all I can see is you try to drag you job into the BB but no difference between you and Paul both of you are doing on work hours.

Also Paul I didn't forget you had to call me an old timer but I am not dead and you with 17 years have nothing over me I been retired longer than you have been on active duty. As far as my comment on CBPO, got your attention and that has been gone here longer than 10 years, alot of changes took place when the Combat Support building was build and alot more people in that building than just CBPO

Paul

I didn't see much wrong with your post on Kelly's blog but did you read it all and see how to submit your idea, if you didn't try it sometime, talk to the people that control what goes on here instead of just ranting and ravening and saying nothing except to cut someone down.

RE: Pete, Where were you pre 911 ? I sure wish you could have pre determined that. Anything can viewed as worst case senario.

Well, I can tell you where I wasn't! I wasn't at the Bush cabinet meeting with Condi Rice overlooking memos from my security experts warning "Bil Laden determined to attack within the United States." I wasn't at FBI headquarters when the Minnesota FBI agent requested permission to track an arab who dropped out of flight school after learning to fly, but not to land, when they denied that request.

Some may mock my quotes of the experts on Homeland Security & DOE nuclear terrorism AND cyber-terrorism as fear-mongering. But many have learned the hard way that listening to straight forward warnings and connecting the dots is key to security and a strong diligent defense. God bless our troops and may God Bless America...Peter

Once again, here is the info regarding Don (AEHI's CEO) and his self-proclaimed MIT education.

http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2008...

Well Paul, you were obviously blogging on work time.

I came across an article today that explains a possible reason behind our current administration's stance towards Iran and the turmoil therein - http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODF...

Is there some way to have this article re-posted in full here to promote discussion of it's merits?

Pete,

Where were you pre 911 ?

I sure wish you could have pre determined that.

Anything can viewed as worst case senario.

Yeah, that is almost as funny as a foot doctor claiming to be a nuclear expert.

Here is an interesting little notation on AEHI. Very interesting!

http://aehitruth.blogspot.com/

Here is the link to the MIT claim (go to page 11 top paragraph of the document):

http://www.pinksheets.com/otciq/ajax/sho...

And another one (go to the "Filings" tab and read your little hearts out)...

http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quo...

Peter and others...hope this little bit of truth helps you all out.

Wake up Mtn. Home. http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm...

If you ride a steel two wheeled pony on I-84 from Boise to Mtn. Home, use extra caution between MP 86 & 87. There is a pretty good gouge/rut carved diagonally into the pavement across the right eastbound lane shortly after the MP 86 marker. I'm guessing that it was inadvertently caused by someone with a blow out tire and they rode their rim to the side of the road.

Anyway, if your front tire should happen to catch that rut just right...............

My humble advise would be to move to the left lane before MP 86 if it is clear to do so. If it is not clear to change lanes, then I would recommend staying to the left or right of the right lane and avoid the center of that lane on that portion of the freeway.

Of course....I could be wrong.

Keep the shiny side up, and the dirty side down.

LMH,

"Om:

Sorry been on Vacation for a while since I last posted. Parks and Rec has been doing the walking in the "hacker Middleschool/old JR high" for years. I have gone many times and walked and I have never seen YOB mom there. When I went years ago there was a gentleman and his wife who walked and opened it up for Parks and Rec. Yob complains that I always stick up for R&R, I am a friend of mr and mrs Franks and I will stuck up for items I do know about. I NEVER saw OYB mom there on the years that I walked. I do know that this is a City parks and rec programs that they started and the wecrd just advertises on there web site and other info places. But they are not the ones who sign out the gym time. If this is there program does there insuranec cover it too!"

ONCE AGAIN... this is NOT the same open gym. THis is not 'walking.' This was at the Jr. High on Saturday nights for youth. It only lasted for a few months. I AM NOT CLAIMING THE CURRENT OPEN GYM IS SPONSORED BY THE WECRD. They were two DIFFERENT events...

LMH, thank you for the info. I hope you had a nice trip. I will talk to P & R a bit more on the subject. Thanks again!

and lastly,

The office that post was generated from is a DAY SHIFT ONLY operation. So who is a hypocrite ?

For being an "OLD GUY " I whish you would grow up.

I work shift work. Did you ever think of that. No, why ? Because you just plain dislike me, and will find any excuse to blast me on here. I post sometimes on the weekends too ? am I at work ?

I think I gave a very good explanation of the topic on hand, why don't you ? Why do you need to try and take swings at me everytime I post, no matter what my view or topic ?

Missy,

A few things to consider by you, I hope, in regards to your comment about the Gay pilot.

First we in the Air Force are Airmen, not Soldiers.

Soldiers are in the Army.

Second, He Knew the Policy on gay's in the Military, and the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

There are two issues there. The Homosexual acts and second "asking or telling" of one'e sexual orientation.

So, what it comes down to is this. As a Military guy myself, I don't have a problem with gay's serving. They can spill blood for their country, just like me. I don't support their lifestyle and probably wouldn't hang around them after work nor want to room with them if the situation would arise. However, when it comes to performing a job/task of course they are just as capable.

It all boil's down to knowing the rules and enforcing the rules. You don't have to agree or like them, but you swear an oath to uphold them.

When you think you are bigger than the organization your a part of, and start to pick and choose what you will adhere to and what you will not, you have system failure. If policy needs to be changed, you have to have faith in the system and your senior leadership to do the right thing. Their are way's to try and change things. You have to know where that line is. The pilot in question didn't. As a Senior officer, the total disregard of the above mentioned explanation is a disgrace to all lower ranks and a discredit to all he has lead in the past

OM and Dr. R.

Just because we are pro nuke doesn't mean we are stupid either. I have been resarching your nemisis Mr. Don, for the past few months. He is becoming more and more interesting to me.

By the way, I didn't say I was pro Mr. Gillispie. And as I check out the things posted on this and his site I find that virtually none of his information checks out, but interestingly enough virtually all of yours, at least has a basis in fact, though one can sometimes disagree with the conclusions made about the significance of the information.

I think you guys are missing the boat though. You keep bringing up misstatements he makes in the press. We all know the press is notoriously inaccurate. One item, I noticed it seems that he has actually lied to the SEC under penalty of perjury, numerous times. You mention his MIT lie in a meeting. Well he actually put that in a 2006 SEC document, so it can't be dismissed as a slip of the tong from that document. I assume regulators and the Elmore P & Z, and county commission would be interested in that as well. I believe even the SEC takes a very dim view. But then look how long Bernie Maddoff slid past them. In addition to that he appears to tell the Elmore County P & Z one thing and then tells the SEC another. I believe that is where you guys should focus your effort. I would point them out specifically, but wouldn't want to out a fellow pro nuke guy! It has been interesting this stuff the past few months.

One thing Elmore County should understand as they go forward. A contract is only as good as the people that sign it.

You guys are funny,

Do you know that ANYTHING with a human factor will always have a chance of error ?

My gas can sits outside, it expands with the ambient temperature . It will leak. Its a poor design. The barrel was most likley improperly stored, you are correct. Fault can be found in any career feild out there. Accidents happen.

So, to point out every mishap and say " ah hah !',

is just unrealistic and childish. Being a watch dog is good, but just remember that nobobdy is perfect and mistakes will happen. I can walk into your place of employment and find fault with your bussiness. Its easy to find fault when at the end of the day you can just walk away from it and it dosen't effect you. To be part of the solution requires a higher level of commitment then finger pointing requires.

OM, I am glad I impress you, because I cannot say the say for you.

ProNukes:

Wow a pro-nuker with an open mind and it is not even my birthday! So, I guess you can look at info provided on this forum with an open mind. Refreshing. "Wacko?" That is what makes the world go round. Without a "wacko" or 2 there would be no debate. If Don and his team said it...it must be true (yeah okay)! At least I did not lie to a roomful of people about my education and then when asked point blank...lie again. I can live with "wacko" and doing the right thing. Morals and values are a bit short these days in this county (IMHO only of course).

Peter, thanks for the info you share. If you ever need to be bailed out because you get arrested at a not so "public meeting" for a set up, less than factual "assault"...you know who to call. You may have been the only trial/case she managed to "win" in a 12 month period...you may be a notch on her belt now! How fun.

As for the INL deal...not so sure I buy the "facts" on this as the timing is suspect to say the least. I wonder what was really in the barrel and what they did/will do with the contents. Certainly not good timing for old Don who wants to store tons of waste for 25 PLUS years right off the Snake River (but his application states just the opposite at page 2 of 3 10(b): "Are there hazardous materials and/or wastes involved in the existing operation, THE PROPOSED OPERATION (my emphasis added), and/or generated off site and brought onto the property." Checked "NO." I guess his nuclear waste must be different than all before it. What is the "shelf life" of those barrels Peter and how often do they "fail" or bulge? Is this waste stored inside or outside and is it in heated/AC buildings or exposed to extreme heat and cold? Thank you for any info you have.

Hey thanks for reading with an open mind Pronukes! Me and OM have kept in touch to share ammo ever since Gillispie invaded. Your wording gave me a good chuckle too , which I needed.

Looks like INL got the lid off the bulging herbicide container. INL:"The cause of the over pressurization is not known. An investigation has been initiated to determine what caused the excess pressure to build."

OM and Peter.

Sounds like you two are old friends. Being a Pro Nuker, you guys keep confusing me by putting out honest and straight forward facts. I thought Martin and Don said you guys are wacko's. Seems like you two are quite thoughtful characters with some honest issues that maybe we should consider. FACTS, now that really scares me!

Peter, how do we know that they are correct regarding the contents of that barrel/container? Not that I think that they would EVER lie about such a thing but how do we really know what is going on out there? Does Martin do PR for them as well? Really, how do we know what the "truth" really is when it is pretty clear that all of our elected officials fully support all of this crappy industry being allowed into Idaho. We learned NOTHING from the last nuclear incident/accident since we entertain the idea of allowing AEHI to build here...darn near right on the Snake River.

Still no response on what reactor(s) will be used, how many there will be, what water use will be (post evaporation) and what they plan to do with all of the waste generated from this great thing for the people of Elmore County and our future generations. Our future generations extend a big thank you, in advance, for all of the nuclear waste already produced which has no place to go and the future nuclear waste that also has no place to go. Hey what the heck...keep on working it...the ocean is not full yet and Idaho will take ANYTHING that is not safe.

Sir, would you like your cup of Joe with or without nuclear waste today? Sweet!!!

Nice info Peter. Thank you. You got it before some of the rest of the media. Thanks again.

WB, forgot

Your other comment about

you said, "face facts this is where you were sent because you were needed "

Look at all my post's. I never have "complained" about anything in regards to my duties and anything regarding my career. I have only spoken about this town and Nuclear energy.

I have NEVER turned down a set of orders or tried to get out of them like I have seen many try.

So, if you have nothing intelligent to say in regards to a topic, why don't you keep them to yourself. You just make yourself look like an idiot. At least when I make comments, they are somewhat relevant to a topic. You just like to hear yourself talk it would seem.

Kisses

lone eagle/aryeworf

Please take you mentally ill self somewhere and get help......

Paul Revere is a special case.. one of those that gets to a base and expects everything he has at his last or best base.. when that doesn't happen it is the fault of the current base..or the people of the town....

To you Aryeworf/whatever... get used to the idea that nothing stays the same...... grow a pair and move on......... to Paul Revere, grow a pair and face facts this is where you were sent because you were needed.....

As far as me...... this is where I chose......... I love it.....

I have to agree with Amused. I am just not going to engourage either LoneEagle or Paul Revere but answering any of their rants. I don't think any of us did anything wrong but express our displeasure with the comments of others.

Hummm!!! Anybody recognize the writing style of LoneEagle? Sure brings back un-fond memories of his "boss" AyreWolf. Could it be? Surely not?

Oh please Patrick,

Don't insult our intelligence.

Said it once before, normally it is not the message but how the message it presented that upsets people. When you throw out insults, you better expect insults back.

"You are your own worst enemy, and what I love is you don't even see it." :-)

Hey AD,

RE: How come AEHI is always on the spin or shady side of things?

Yah, how do dey do dat? But to me the funniest part is the SCG news release says they are going to sell stock for him. After I sent them Gillispie's previous claims of funding, and his tuoting they will partner with PowerEd to build 5 reactors in Yemen, they quickly claimed the were still vetting him with due dilgence! What kind of reputable stock brokers would send out a news release touting their new buddies BEFORE they finished the vetting research??? You don't announce a deal until you sign the deal, I guess UNLESS it if the Friday before an important ECC meeting at 9 AM Monday!

But in perspective of how the de-regulated Wall Street wizards have gone unfined and even bailed out when they blatantly made "liars loans" on known toxic assets, then sell them off to ruin people's savings this SCG getting any fines for misrepresentation etc is significant...Peter

jusolme

Your'e letter contained a lot of good and correct information, however you should have said "concrete", not cement.In most cases, Cement comes in a bag amd concrete comes in a truck.

"Who is the "our" and what is the "code?" Who decided what the "code" is?" Under Idaho Code... and the WECRD mission statement. Well... maybe it does fall under Idaho Code but not the mission statement. But yes they should have donated $100.

"Who did not "allow" the donation of free playground equipment (which is pretty expensive)? Why was it not "allowed in town?" Seems like there is always a place for "free" stuff for kids? Just wondering...your words not mine but I would really like to know who turned down the "free" stuff and why."

Well, all the parks except Legacy already have playground equipment... So, they wouldn't need it... And the school district doesn't seem to work to well with other agencies... But I don't know... I NEVER said it definiately wasn't allowed... I said IF it were allowed... (Meaning IF the school or parks and rec needed/wanted it) My mistatement... sorry.

Ms. Lauric,

"you fail to see the point in this debate." There is no debate on this issue because I agree that the directors could have given a $100 donation without harming anything! I have said this 3-4 times already. You fail to see THAT.

" I cannot say for a fact that she had any say regarding "donations" and who would get them and who would not but she sure is your fall guy" You cannot say she had any say in the matter because she didn't make the decision... I am aware of that. (Have you been reading my posts at all?) Mollie said she asked Ms. Bernasconie for her advice and she suggested against it. She is not MY fall guy... I have not blamed her for anything! I brought up other big reasons why the district was smart in not giving away %10 of their budget... to say that I all do is blame people is lieing! You keep bringing up it was on behalf of ALL you activities... How much of the 10% of the budget would go to which programs? I can't possibly argue this with you if you don't tell me where the money was supposed to go.

I HAVE read the business plan, I HAVE read the Shaw Snow Report, and I HAVE read the GP Report... You wouldn't know if my research was fed to me! I have made it clear that I know more about this issue than most tax-payers. I obviously know enough to be able to debate you about it for a few months.

"Most people do not have the time to research the facts and obtain detailed information on things. To some...I am sure this information has been good/informative."----Exactly... But you and I both have gotten things wrong, so maybe its a good thing we're both here to keep eachother in check! "I am still NOT against a recreation center" ---Well, you're not FOR anything but ag programs... so how can I believe this?

I have also made it clear many times that I don't always agree with the WECRD and I cannot justify EVERY decision they have made. So don't classify me as that "all or nothing" supporter or naysayer... because I am not.

To sum up your claims... 1. I did not debate with you on the baseball issue because I somewhat agree with you... (Which I have said 3-4 times, and you've ignored it.) 2. I did NOT blame Billie Bernasconie, I brought up other legitimate reasons why the WECRD should not donate 10% of the budget to Mr. Freer. (which I have said 3-4 times) 3. I have done my own research and know about the issue. My replies to you are not fed by my mother as you suggest. (Trust me, my mother could not reply fast enough)

"Enjoy Father's Day with your dad and have a very nice day." My dad leaves ALL summer long, he works... so I don't see him till September or October... But if he were here, I would.

yoB, you fail to see the point in this debate. The 10% that was asked for on behalf of ALL youth activities was JUST A REQUEST...clearly stated to be a STARTING POINT by the person who made the request! Nothing more nothing less. If you can give $95.00 to/for concerts in the park, the least you can do is give some local kids $100.00 for the chance to play baseball. While no child is turned away for baseball, someone must pay what the kids cannot (like coaches and other parents and donations from the people of this community). Someone has to cover these costs PLUS have enough money to run the activity. That was the point. It is funny how the most amount of money seems to go to the things that Ms. Ashcraft is working on/with while other projects get rejected/denied.

As far as you not being on the WECRD Board---I clearly know that. You have a very clear lack of understanding for what has gone on and it is clear that you have not done much homework on the subject and are "fed" information as opposed to really doing the research. Do not believe all that you are told on this because things are not always as they seem. There is more to come but I know it is not the "small" details that you concern yourself with.

As far as the CDLG groups go...I was already asked and I was told I would be working with Ms. Sellers. That does not mean that I will NOT continue to provide the public with information. Most people do not have the time to research the facts and obtain detailed information on things. To some...I am sure this information has been good/informative. I am still NOT against a recreation center but I want proof that what is built can be sustained and is what is needed. What is built also should NOT compete with local businesses which was part of the original BRC plans. There is a lot to look at and there is 1 chance to get this done right.

If a person/persons operate(s) an organization in an upfront manner and are open with the public from the start, there are no surprises. Clearly, this has not been the case. As for the "lady from the Y" I did not feel she needed her name all over the BB for something she may have had nothing to do with which is why I did not feel the need to splatter her name all over this forum. I do not believe that provides the best PR for the Y at this point Ms. Smith. I cannot say for a fact that she had any say regarding "donations" and who would get them and who would not but she sure is your fall guy for all of this mess and has been for the last several months. Enjoy Father's Day with your dad and have a very nice day.

Can anyone tell me why the Relay for Life is no longer at Tiger Field? It seems much better than the track at east side park....?

Since the so-called Paul Revere has accused me incorrectly of insulting the Air Force in the Banter Box, I post my response to his lame limp accusations that even viagra could not get to salute...peter

Clearly from the Banter Box veterans who were insulted by the so-called Paul Revere, I am NOT the ONE who insulted the military, no matter how you twist and repeat it Paul.

As I said at 4:27, from my heart and experience, "It is my impression that while most all military forces are wonderful great people, that the Air Force has always recruited the smartest and best."

So I respect and love ALL branches of the military, and that includes the great ground crews! Without them doing highly skilled jobs as diligently as they do we would be doomed." ...Peter

Paul Revere

I have lived in Mountain Home for almost 50 years and I must tell you that I, for one, (and ONLY one apparently) can appreciate what you have to say. You are DEAD ON with your comments about this town. Some people love it, some people hate it, but we are ALL entitled to our opinion. I imagine OM is going to get jealous since all the attention has been on YOU.

Also, I can sure understand why 'some folks' would rather be with animals than people. You can tick them off and they can't do much about it. But then again they can't read 18 paragraph rants either. Oh well.

Have a nice day all!!

wehttp://www.fema.gov/hazard/nuclear/index.shtmb site to get informed,instead of scared.

IGOR,

If you read my comments today and still posted what you did then I feel sorry for you, because you choose to see things as you want, not how they are.

Why would you cut and paste my comments without the full context of the conversation ?

Because that serves your purpose to belittle me. I get it. I already admitted I am no English major, and I can live with that. That comment was plucked from my response to OM's perceived opinion that another persons pet crapping in my yard/garden was nothing to be upset about. Thanks alot for trying to paint me in a corner

Paul Revere -

I merely come online to read the latest news, and yes I do read bits and pieces of the BB, obvioulsy, as some viewers have valid convincing points, and sometimes interesting comments. Lately, I've found myself bored and somewhat irritated with some of your comments.

For example, Mr. Paul Revere, your comment here:

"Wow, now that is some RETARDED rationilazation."

For one "rationilazation" is not how you spell rationalization. Not that explaining to you how to spell is of any significance. Just saying.

I understand you're trying to prove a point PR, which point that may be I'm not quite sure, but, a comment such as this, sadly, shows your maturity, or lack there of.

Here is the amusing part though, your next statement:

"My parents instilled in me how to take care of pets, and that it was a RESPONSABILITY! You have no class."

Maybe you can put two and two together without my help here. I just hope you can see how contradicting and/or hypercritical you are really being. Before typing out of rage and offending people you DO NOT know, maybe put more thought in your choice of words.

Thank you.

KTVB.COM

BOISE- Income keeps falling for Idaho residents -- and it's the third straight quarter that it's done so.

The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis estimates that the majority of the $376 million loss comes from wages and business profits.

This quarter's report was only the fourth time since World War II in Idaho's history that personal income has fallen for three quarters in a row.

Eight other states suffered larger declines than Idaho's 0.8 percent drop.

The report estimates that most areas of Idaho's economy are suffering, with gains in government and health care not making up the difference.

The overall decline in income would have been even greater if not for a record amount of unemployment insurance benefits payments

Food for thought for all.. sometimes it is not what you say or stand for but how you say it or stand for it. That is my thought for the day.

Paul Revere,

1) Self confessed 17 years Air Force service.

2) Beligerant to the point of offending pretty much EVERY user of this BB on either side of debates.

YOUR POSTS PAUL

""USAF core Values

Integrity First

Service before self

Excellence in all we do

Being an AF vet you should know that by heart.

What a shame.

-- Posted by Paul Revere on Thu, Jun 18, 2009, at 12:04 PM ""

""Well, I still don't get you Missy, but I guess if everyone thought the same it would get boring. You can have this town, enjoy it, die here and they can put you in the ground here. I will love it when I get orders. I just hope they build that big beautiful nuke plant and my stock splits at least twice, sell at about $ 18 a share and remember all my days in this hole of a town. Cheers !

-- Posted by Paul Revere on Mon, Jun 15, 2009, at 3:31 PM""

""Puppy Dog, your such a tuff guy,LOL

I hope your right, and I hope they build that big beautifull nuclear plantand I get to see it. Because when I drive away for the last time I will see it in my rear view mirror I will laugh all the way to the bank. I don't know what you posted to get it removed, but its obvious that others think your a jerk.

-- Posted by Paul Revere on Wed, Jun 17, 2009, at 1:41 PM ""

So as you stated in your own words

1) USAF core Values

Integrity First

Service before self

Excellence in all we do

2) I just hope they build that big beautiful nuke plant and my stock splits at least twice, sell at about $ 18 a share and remember all my days in this hole of a town.

3) Because when I drive away for the last time I will see it in my rear view mirror I will laugh all the way to the bank.

So as far as your concerned build it, make you a bunch of money and you are out of here anyways and don't really care what happens to Mountain Home as a result of all of this as long as you make money.

Please Please Please tell me how in the world do your behavior, your statements and actions fit in with those "core values" you posted?

At this moment I am not a very proud retiree, sorry to see what 17 years of service has taught this young man.

That is not a true statement, although you would be right if you count "birds of a Feather". I explained myself a little, and you still want to hate on me. Fine. I hope you feel better about yourself.

Missy,

For being in your late 30's do you know how childish you sound ? You said ;

"it was better than a person pooping or using my front yard as their own personal toilet." What ?

Wow, now that is some retarded rationilazation.

Give me a break. Then you say ;

"I would rather have 10 cows and 10 horses in my yard than 20 people any day"

OK, we don't all live on acreage here, and we are not all anti-social either....then your rant continues...."I can only hope you do not own any animals as you do not seem to be a very nice person" Lets see, I don't like other peoples cats crapping in my garden and dogs barking all night long, now I am mean. I am a responsible pet owner and have been since I was a child. My parents instilled in me how to take care of pets, and that it was a RESPONSABILITY ! Then you top it off with.."You take care and work on going to the ER to get that stick out. Well Opinion Missy, I guess same could be said about your views on Nuclear Energy huh ? You have no class. Like I told peter, I do at times come across as caustic, but I admit it , whats your excuss ?

Did you READ what i said with your brain or your heart ? I don't know if you have kids or not that are school age, but I know of one school in particular that does not have an accredidation. I have a problem with that, and so should you. That means they are not meeting minimum requirements for OUR children, the next generation that will be changing OUR diapers. Is everyone in this town on Lithium ? If there is a issue/problem lets make it better, not ignore it by putting on rose colored glasses.

MTHM Grl,

Thank your Husband for his year in the sandbox. Would I rather be here than over there, Hmmmm, Yes. Thants a no brainer for most. I did do a year at the Kun, so I was seperated from my family for a what seemed forever year full of hard work and little thanks. Not whinning about it, just saying we all get our turn at bat. Sometimes the flavor is a little different. I went thru a stop loss for almost a year that seperated me and my wife also. As the world turns right ? LOL.. Maybe I am just tired of driving to Boise every weekend. Pine/featherville everyother...who knows.

So highschoolmom, enlighten us....Can you tell us who, how much, how long? How do you know this? Good old MH rumor mill?

mhgirl,

At first little Paulie's comments did upset me and I expressed some of that but upon further examination, it is not the words that upset me but his attitude that did. He seems not to be happy here and I wish him luck in leaving as soon as he can. I retired here 6 years ago and love this area and it does bother me when someone puts it down. Anyone can find faults in an area but it takes a happy person to find the wonderful things in an area. For example, I spent many months in some pretty bad areas of the world but in each area, I found something good to like and that over shadowed the items I did not like. Maybe little Paulie needs to try this. I wish him luck where ever he goes.

I have not heard of this...it is something that was printed in the paper???

"yoB, I am not sure why you are having sooooooo much trouble with this but my LTE was based ONLY on info requested and obtained from the WECRD. We asked for a list of ALL community donations since the taxing district came to be. What I wrote in my LTE was ALL that they reported PERIOD THE END! If they did not give me EVERYTHING like we asked for...their bad NOT mine. If they choose to only report 1/2 of the facts then what do you want me to do? We make a full request and get a letter back explaining what they have done.

As far as your 10% of the budget comment...that request for money was on behalf OF ALL YOUTH ACTIVITIES NOT JUST YOUTH BASEBALL. You really need to get your facts together yoB. Further, the 10% requested was only a REQUEST/STARTING POINT. Instead they got nothing. Do not act like they sit on all of the money because they were able to give $95.00 for the summer concerts. You make NO sense. Have a nice summer.

Oh, one last thing...why did you post comments that were not mine with a direct message to me? What was your point? If I did not say it...how can you hold it against me? Hope your mouth feels better."

I know it isn't your fault the WECRD didn't include all of the community events they have helped sponsor. I was just letting people know that the LTE wasn't everything they have done for the community. I think its unfortunate the WECRD doesn't seem to realize all of the things they have sponsored should be considered donations to the community.-----"they proposed that 10% of the WECRD budget be set aside and paid out for LOCAL youth programs." What programs? Why would it be smart for the WECRD to give away 10% of their budget (against the advisement of Billie Bernasconi) when they are trying to focus on getting the community involved in the plan. Giving away 10% of the budget would set any plan to build, when so many tax payers are already frustrated that nothing is built yet. It just would NOT be focusing on what they are supposed to be doing. Here were the quotes: "Community resources such as COPS were used for that event correct? A taxpayer expense last I checked. Did the WECRD pay for that? The answer is no." ---Right... and a youth run/walk isn't worthy of a bit of volunteer time?! And where should the COPS have been instead of the walk, according to you? It was great.... even though the weather wasn't very nice at all, it worked out great and kids and parents had fun! Thanks for caring so much. "Paul, you are just rude, mean and ugly!" --What do you call yourself? and all of your personal slanders?" ------What are you denying you said?

Beau,

"my personal needs, wants, and desires are... " Exactly, your personal needs, wants, and desires. They may not be the same as the rest of the community. Maybe I should have rephrased my question to you... what do you think is adequate for the community? There are a lot of recreational activities that cannot be done outside in the cold.----"what would be adequate for me could have been probably built after year one of the voter approved WECRD taxation." -- THis is a good goal... completely unrealistic though. It is extremely hard and almost impossible to plan a facility and raise the cost needed to build within a year of taxation unless the facility would be build in extreme amounts of debt. --I don't want a Christmas list. I am just trying to show you how everyone thinks this should be done differently. Everyone seems to be upset at how it is being done, and yet none of the people who are upset wanted to take a leading role.

LMH!!!

"yob-- You said that WERCD does Open Gym and adult walk for FREE? YOu need to go to the school dist and see who has the gym time and school signed to. It is not WERCD it is the Mountain HOme Parks and Rec dept. The time slots are signed out to parks and rec. Check with the parks and rec office I did. Also Wercd list this on there FREE things to do, but they are not the ones who supply people to work or volunteer at these two events." ---------Not currently. I said those are things the WECRD has sponsored. A few years ago, at the JR High every saturday night, there would be an open gym. There were board games, speed stacks, basketball, volley ball, and ping pong for youth.

CURRENTLY, yes it is Parks and Rec, but for months, it was my mother and a volunteer from the Jr. High. You have been awfully protective of Parks and Rec and Mr. Franks....... Sorry for the Misunderstanding...

www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/at_a_...

info on all US nuke plants.

USAF core Values

Integrity First

Service before self

Excellence in all we do

Being an AF vet you should know that by heart.

What a shame.

Paulette The Rear = Troll

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion

Gunfighter, your at work and posting ? What a hypocrite. Wow, and of course missy would jump on your retarded band wagon. Jeez

Paul Revere,

Please review AFI 33-129, para 2.2.6. I have noticed your post times are during the normal duty day. Using this forum is not a good idea.

I invite you to come see me so we can discuss your dissatisfaction with MHAFB and the surrounding community. I realize there is no way I could change your mind about anything, but I would enjoy engaging you in conversation. There are things we could do to make you, and in turn those around you, happy.

My office is on the 3rd floor of the Professional Development Center.

yob--

You said that WERCD does Open Gym and adult walk for FREE? YOu need to go to the school dist and see who has the gym time and school signed to. It is not WERCD it is the Mountain HOme Parks and Rec dept. The time slots are signed out to parks and rec. Check with the parks and rec office I did. Also Wercd list this on there FREE things to do, but they are not the ones who supply people to work or volunteer at these two events.

You prove my point.

Paul

You are just picking fights to fight - the little man/bully thing. You're arguing just to argue. Just simple minded. You're not worth commenting to any longer. I am not going to be sucked into your arguing any more. I happen to like MH so ----Hope to see you in my rear view mirror SOON. Good-bye.

Wow Beau! Till you put it in print it was "your" image of me but at least it was just in your head:) Oh well. As far as the "dumb rule" remark goes, I do not think that the "only on Simco Road" statement in the ECCP is dumb. It was put in place to protect people, water, land, etc. and keep heavy industry in one area---away from people's homes and life. As far as the document being in conflict with 1 part v. another, I would have to disagree. When they speak of growth and expansion of industry I believe they meant in the Simco Road area (for heavy/dirty industry). It makes sense (to me anyway) to put that where there are no homes and the area is industrial. I do not believe the word "only" was an error (in 2004 and again in 2007) nor do I beleive for 1 moment the document was missing a comma as Courtney Ireland has claimed.

If you change the rules for this you had better be ready to change the rules for everything else that wants to come in but does not fit the "vision" because this 1 act will give all other related requests legal standing and will make it very hard to fight (according to a Boise land-use attorney). But hey, what the heck does he know?

As far as thinking up images of people and then talking about it without knowing the person...I will keep that to myself as it can be pretty hurtful. This 2 headed, toothless, braless, dirty, unkept, fat, stupid, uneducated, fire spewing dragon/monster is off to ride her horse. You all have a nice day and enjoy your Positive Thursday.

I am positive today that EC could do better as far as their elected officials, to be more specific, the ECC's. I am positive that they are paid way more than what any of them are worth and I am positive that as a result of their actions this week...someone will file a suit before this is over. If you are in over your heads---ask for and obtain quality help (such as a land-use/zoning attorney). You may spend a little but in the end it will save you and the people who voted for you a bunch of money. EC will have to learn the hard way. As far as who is right in this debate (Shipley or I) time will tell. I will bet on the dragon monster myself!

Once again you contradict yourself ..please re-read your post's to me and you will see you make no sense. I you beleive what you just posted, and knew I was active duty, then you wouldn't have called names and been nasty, would you ? But, I was supposed to know all that about the vet I offended ? Come on people! Sure I have given ideas. You just picking and chosing what you want, Like a typical left winger. Sorry.

I don't disrespect the uniform - but yes, I do disrespect you for the simple reason that you disresepct yourself. Your comments started out rude and you are relentless in attacking any other person for their comment. You have not said one helpful word about any of the issues. You have came on here I think, just to attack people. How sad. Also, respect is earned, not given. You have not said or acted in anyway that I would consider respectful. You brought this on yourself bucko - so don't try to pawn it off on anyone else. After reading all of your posts - I truly do feel sorry for the people who have to work with/for you. I am serious about that, and not just saying it because I am on the BB. You must not realize how terrible, irritable, foolish, disrepectful and ignorant you sound with your comments. Like I said before, they probably have going away parties for you "AFTER" you leave.

I am positive that the rain/wind will stop soon so that we may enjoy the outdoors. I hope everyone else gets to do the same and keep in mind that they are not the only ones out enjoying the joys of being outside. Kindness goes a long way, and karma has a way of getting back at those that are mean.

Happy Positive Thursday, Everyone!!

Hey Midea, I have served for 17 years, yet you dissrespect me, and I have never spoken to you. Guess it IS conditional huh ?

MH girl,

Yeah I am a kid. Did you finish your home work before school ?

Pete,

Thanks for the KMVT link.

So that's what the real Tracy L. looks like. I had no idea.

During my wind down period late at night I converse online with many people around the globe. Some of which I have raised from young pups are now in leadership positions and doing our nation proud. For whatever reason they contact me from time to time. As some of you know after 10 p.m. (our time) is great time to have a real time online discussion with a forward deployed loved one.

Other conversations I have involve faceless screen names. Quite frankly especially on local issues I prefer it that way. Who you really are and what you really look like is not that important to me. I'm more interested in one's thoughts, ideals, and opinions as to want they think is best for community. But I admit that sometimes when I read the words on my screen I have images as to what the author of those words really looks like. Come on, many of you do it as well.

Regarding Tracy L; I don't know why I had visions of a multi-headed, fire breathing monster, but regretfully I did. I want to openly apologize for those thoughts. I am truly sorry.

While watching the KMVT interview I was pleasantly surprised to learn that Tracy L is actually a fairly attractive human being and somewhat way less intimidating. Her hair looked brushed and she appeared to have nice teeth. Not even a hint of a set of fangs. Of course this interview was done in broad daylight. j/k

OM,

After reading the recounts of last week's ECC meeting, and after reading the seemingly giddiness from the anti's this past week, I thought that the Monday's ECC meeting was going to be a slam dunk victory for your side. What happened?

Also Tracy L states in her interview on KMVT that the decision of the ECC not to make a decision sends the wrong message and doesn't think that changing an arguably dumb rule is right.

However, according to SRA's executive director Andrea Shipley the ECC's decision not to make a decision was a success.

"This is a success because we can start talking about the issue at hand, which is nuclear power," said Andrea Shipley, the alliance's executive director.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/531/story/...

So now that you have had a few days to think about the ECC's decision not to make a decision. Which position is more accurate Tacy L's or Ms Shipley's?

Sorry working bee, my point was to rebut Ms. Lauric's LTE that the WECRD hasn't given back to the community. No progress? I see your point, but it takes time to save for a facility. There seems to be a spilt in if tax payers think the facility should be built in stages or all together. How do you think it should be built?

Well, the generation of the child grant was over $4000 for the RAFT program (Recreational activities for teens and tweens). That wasn't through the district though, it was through the foundation. My bad, it appears there was only one grant. I have been thinking Block Fest was a grant and the Open Gym that was put on for a few months were grants as well. It seems I'm a bit off tonight, I had a dental operation this morning and I think I'm still recovering from the anestsia.

But... here are some projects the WECRD sponsored:

1. Block Fest (Over 400 people participated for FREE), 2. Open Gym(FREE), 3. Recreational Day Trips, 4. America on the Move(FREE), 5. Youth/Adult walk/runs(FREE), 6. The RAFT grant was for the Judo Matts, 7. in 2005 the WECRD recruited over 100 volunteers for Gun Fighter Skies, 8. Movers and Shakers Fitness Challenge(Free), 9. MHJH Spring Fling($3000 Fundraiser for Jr. High), 10. for 2 or 3 years the WECRD recruited all of the volunteers for the 4th of July Festival in the Park(Free).

Sorry Working Bee! Of course they were not for my mother, but she was the one to applied for and wrote all the grants. Sorry, sometimes my grammer is under par.

Beau,

what is adequate to you?

Ms. Lauric, sorry but, I am not trying to showcase my journalism skills on here. It's summer break and this isn't for a grade. It really stinks that you didn't count the expenses of the YMCA trips... I also wish you would include the total dollar amount of the grants my mother recieved for the district.

And would you suggest the district just give away all their money, so the wouldn't be able to afford what they were formed to do???

"TITLE 31 COUNTIES AND COUNTY LAW CHAPTER 43 RECREATION DISTRICTS 31-4302. DECLARATION OF PUBLIC BENEFIT. Providing adequate recreation facilities..." -----KEY WORD... FACILITIES. Giving 10% of their budget to little leage baseball scholarships is not a facility.

Ms, Lauric,

"Community resources such as COPS were used for that event correct? A taxpayer expense last I checked. Did the WECRD pay for that? The answer is no." ---Right... and a youth run/walk isn't worthy of a bit of volunteer time?! And where should the COPS have been instead of the walk, according to you? It was great.... even though the weather wasn't very nice at all, it worked out great and kids and parents had fun! Thanks for caring so much.

"Paul, you are just rude, mean and ugly!" --What do you call yourself? and all of your personal slanders?

Paul,

"I find it funny that people are against this nuke plant, unless its free electic for 10 years ! LOL, what a bunch of bucket heads. So, if its free electric, that would negate all the safety concerns ? LOL, pure comedy!" ---Incentive... Of course we all want a safe facility, but I just think offering free electricity would make their proposition a bit more appealing to us. I don't like the way AEHI has treated the people of MH, Hammet, and GF.

"And I am not a Admin troop, although you did manage to insult a whole career field of men and women who serve this graet nation with your ignorant views and juvenile toilet humor."...

Didn't you say, "I applaud and respect anyones service to their country, however that dosent mean I owe him anything in regards to my rights of freedom of speach and expression.".... I think what you said to EE was rude, showing no respect.

so, as you would say... "you did manage to insult a whole career field of men and women who serve this graet nation with your ignorant views"

thanks jtrotter!

Pauly,

Nope just a realistic person. Been there done that....

Just curious....... How long have you been here?

You know there is a plus in Mtn. Home not having all the fancy stores and restaurants you like..... you leave the city.

PR: actually the first SD assignment was one I selected, the other's I was recruited for...and I got to choose my own teams when I got into those jobs. So rationalize it any way you want to. But your first assumption was incorrect. Thanks for coming out.

Your right, Fertalizer does enrich. I think you must be a Simplot employee due to the endless stream of Bull___ streaming from you big mouth.

LOL..

Nope, you bore me

Does your mom know your using her lap top ?

I find it funny that people are against this nuke plant, unless its free electic for 10 years ! LOL, what a bunch of bucket heads. So, if its free electric, that would negate all the safety concerns ? LOL, pure comedy !

If all your 20 was spent in special duty, then we all know what kind of person you were. One that skipped job to job because you probably couldn't master any of them.

Puppy Dog, your such a tuff guy,LOL

I hope your right, and I hope they build that big beautifull nuclear plantand I get to see it. Because when I drive away for the last time I will see it in my rear view mirror I will laugh all the way to the bank. I don't know what you posted to get it removed, but its obvious that others think your a jerk.

Sorry for the re-posting but my original post got deleted. I'm sure that Paulette Revere made an administrative decision and with a catch in his voice and tears in his eyes and begged that the MHN take my post down. Or maybe I just referred to a part of anatomy that I shouldn't have. I beg the forgiveness of the message board god and humbly ask that I be pardoned and given my posting leave.

I am always confussed about where to vote, I always end up at the wrond place. I have been looking on the school website to see where each zone is located. No luck there.

How do you find out which school zone you live in?

Thanks

"" Paul,

Are you gonna cry? Do you need a diaper change? Act like you have a pair and go make something of your pitiful existence. I have heard that it's really hard to get orders out of here. I hope that you never leave. I hope that you continue to catch grammatical errors and type and file papers at MTN HM AFB until you retire.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Wed, Jun 17, 2009, at 11:41 AM ""

AD,

That's some funny stuff I don't care who ya are. I don't recall the name of the redneck comedian that said that but I LIKE it!!!!

PR: did my 20 and after my first assignment all were Special Duty assignments. All were easy to get. Some of them required waivers for time on station. Maybe you're not the person they're lookling for. Because if you were there would be a parting of the Red Tape Sea. I guess in your case you just have to deal with it. Poor you. Maybe that's why you act out the way you do.

Vic, already did special duty and it got me a follow on to this place. If it was that easy to get up and move I would. Think before you start jotting down pipe dreams. If you do have Military experience you would know that its not that easy. Many people have put in for orders but get stuck here. The AF does what it needs and thats the way the big machine rolls.

Paul Revere - So EE's "funny and old". You're rude and a whiner. So you don't like being here. MOVE! A lot of people around here were/are in the Air Force. It's easy to pickup and go. Try Special Duty assignments. If you qualify, and if they want you, almost anything can be waived, even time on station. You are only limited by your marketability.

Paul, you are just rude, mean and ugly! Go to where you need to go and get orders out. Did you know what he meant? Yes. EE is a retired vet and that commands respect. Leave. MH really does not need people like you. Have a nice day.

yoB, you just do not get it. Peter, thank you for attempting to draw the picture and connect the dots for our young journalism student who is lacking with regard to the English language and how words are used. yoB it has been explained over and over. If you still do not understand please phone a friend to explain things to you.

Not going to say anymore about my mis-spelled words, I didn't prove read my comment so there is errors.

Hi yoB and OM,

OM already explained well, but may I simply add there are many definitions and uses of the word "respect." Don't know about the WERCD situation, but OM's sentence uses the word in the sentence yoB questions exactly as the below posted first defintion of "respect" on the Princeton web dictionary. In this context it interchanges with the word "perspective", or more officially "detail", and is quite acceptable proper English. Peace out...Peter

1)(usually preceded by `in') a detail or point; "it differs in that respect"

2)esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); "it is held in esteem"; "a man who has earned high regard"______

OM: "All 3 ECC's are still spineless and I will stand by my statement with respect to their actions...or lack of action on this matter."

yoB, the things that you have asked about are NOT "donations" back to the community. Going on road trips to check out other centers is research and up to this point the research has not been done very well. Giving back to recreation on a local level is what it is all about and clearly you missed the point.

I did NOT say with all due respect (I said with respect to the situation) with regard to my spineless comment. I have no respect for elected officials that do not respect those who have elected them. And just so there is no confusion...my comments are directly related to the lack of action by the ECC's as opposed to any other elected officials who may choose to take offense. As I said before...a lack of action should NOT be confused with action. It was a cop out to admit that the AEHI rezone conflicted with the CP and not rule as such. yoB, when you own a house and pay taxes you will be in a better position to judge my position. Have a nice night and do not forget to buy the paper...it will be interesting on many fronts.

Thanks Peter. The video would not work but my husband did something to get it to play off the KMVT web page directly. They cut out my spineless comment but my point was made. Thanks for posting that so I knew it was out there. All 3 ECC's are still spineless and I will stand by my statement with respect to their actions...or lack of action on this matter. One would think after all of these months that 2 people could have supported their own CP. Inability to act should NOT be confused with action. Have a good night and Paul, please do not get eaten by any bed bugs tonight...as we will look forward to your comments either later tonight or in the morning.

To all on the WECRD issue with respect to new business. We have been taxed for 8 years. 1.8 million dollars (approx.) has been raised in tax dollars PLUS interest. Guess how much has been "donated/given" back to our community by the WECRD Board? Greatly under $5,000 and even less than $2,000. Dreamer, there is your "hint" as to what I have been working on but that is only part of the story. Have a nice night all.

Hi all,

Yah, I already appologized for the length of the post, but instead of making wild sounding accusations of fraud and deceit, I do like to provide the references so folks can verify the truth. But this'll be SHORT! Here is the video link to the KMVT coverage of the meeting, that includes Tracy L telling the truth about the "Let's change the rules" ECC's..Peter At http://www.kmvt.com/home/video/48111107....

Paul,

Of course it would create jobs. But if we are going to whore ourselves out for jobs then why have a plan? Lets just change the plan to "whoever brings jobs can do whatever they want" and call it good. I guess that maybe I shouldn't have made the assumption that the plan was put together with some thought as to what kind of lifestyle the folks here want to enjoy. If I wanted to live in an industrial free for all zone I could go move to a big city and enjoy all the congestion, pollution, and jobs that they have there. I choose to live here and make less so that I can enjoy more.

I make assumptions? Perhaps you can tell me how I fit in with, your "all you sportsman" comment. Your ignorance is showing. Do I think they would just dump the waste? All I can go on is the track record of the company that is trying to build the plant here. They built without permits down in Owyhee. They refused to pay what they owed the county for six months until it was made public. They filed a lawsuit to try and shut up their most out spoken opponent. The had one of their employees press charges against a guy half his size, (although if he keeps posting War and Peace length posts then I'm gonna hope he goes away). They constantly spin and scam the truth in their "Marketwire", "news releases". They are terribly under funded. They propose to use a reactor that hasn't been built and isn't approved yet. Or maybe they are onto a different design this month. I could go on until this was foot doctor length but I think you get the idea. Change? Change to what? Change just because some slickster from Virginia says to change. When they start giving truthful direct answers to direct questions then maybe we can talk about change.

Love the free power idea.

Well arn't you a cutie ?

Are you married to Missy ? LOL

You don't know anything about me and my Military service, so how juvenile for a Military retiree to pop off at the lip in such a unrealistic and ignorant manner, I hope you feel better though. You must not have learned much in your 20.As for "YOUR" town, LOL, you born and raised here ? Good for you, Keep it.

Hey, could you put longer post's on here ? Thanks.

OK, well I guess we disagree.

I would ask you why so many people go to boise to shop and eat. Those may be the type's of bussiness' you may want to focus on. How this city can charge 200K plus for a house still alludes me. Didn't you hike the building fee's for housing contractors here too ? You sound like a nice person, but I won't miss it here, God bless you and since I don't/Won't it home, do with it what you shall. Good Luck.

sorry-after thought--I have in my travels with the Military been to some PO-DUNK places, and they had a little more to offer than here, so., I don't really buy all the justification with population. Even, Alamagordo, NM outside of Holloman AFB had a community college and sit down chain restaurants/stores. That base/community relationship closely resembles this one, except they finallt saw change/growth as a good thing.

After reading all that I am left with this question....so then why after all of those explanations, does the city of Mountain Home not seem to attract any new bussiness ? If I were Donald Trump you know what I would say councilman ? Your Fired ! You can't wait for it to come to you ! You need to pursue it.

Sorry I wanted to put this on front page too since the "nuke" debate is here too, heck it's everywhere lot's of comments in the Idaho "hatesman/Bama booster" too

I have a novel idea, how about since this proposed power plant is going to produce so much energy so "cheaply" Mr. Don and his group offer the citizens of Elmore County some REAL incentive to consider it? FREE yes FREE electricity for any and all citizens of Elmore county for the first 10 years of production. That would boost the economy in Elmore county wouldn't it? No maybes about it.

Give me that, give me some form of incentive other than pie in the sky promises of a supposed great economic boost.

If you want ME and MINE to take on the risks of having this plant so close to MY home MY family MY future then make it worth it!

Until the current K-Mart/Cabela's/Target/Home Depot/Lowe's legend popped up, it was the Taco Johns/Taco Bell/Taco Time conspiracy. When I moved here 19 years ago, the legend circulating was that McDonalds was being stopped by either Artic Circle, or Dairy Queen, or the Tiger Den. Basically, there is not a bit of truth to it, at least since I have lived here. The longer it circulates, the more the conspiracy changes from one retelling to the next. It is almost deserving of it's own entry on the snopes.com urban legends website. If there is a piece of commercial property available, properly zoned, a permitted use is allowed no matter how much an existing competitor doesn't want it there. Taco Bell could open up tomorrow in any vacant spot so permitted, and the city would have no say in it. The entire process is subject to plenty of public scrutiny and input all along the way. While the owners of Taco Johns may well have 'gone ballistic' (and I doubt they did, I know them) upon hearing about the PX's Taco Bell, there isn't anything they could do about it, except what every good business person should: compete. The fact is, many of these chains look at Mountain Home all the time- and our population is just shy of what's required to have the second, or third, or whatever, of whatever kind of restaurant model you are considering. For each X thousand people, you can have Y number of taco joints. You can have more than the formula calls for, but you'll make less money. I can assure you this council and economic development team isn't what's standing in their way. We had just this discussion when it came to development impact fees- and we as a council came to the conclusion that we didn't want to impede the growth of new business. To be sure, some of us differed on what that fee structure should look like, and in the end we decided we had to be competitive fee-wise with the surrounding areas if we wanted to attract new businesses.

As you can tell, there is a lot to this topic. Feel free to drop in at city hall anytime- you are always welcome to share your ideas and concerns with the Mayor and/or the Economic development coordinator. Or give me a call, and we can sit down over coffee at Moxie sometime. As you can tell, I rather like this topic.

And as for tacos- Tacos John's has a big advantage- I don't have to drive 10 miles for a taco. But mine are better than any of those other places.

Dog,

you have some assumptions in that rant don't you. Do you not think If a Power plant was built that it would not create jobs ? It would also bring in other bussiness. More is better than none. I am sure the other nuke plants in the US are handeling their haz mat waste per OSHA etc. You think they would just dump it like all you "sportsman" dump your refrigerators and TV's after you shoot them up ? LOL...this is based off of fear of change and ignorance

OM,

I agree with you as far as Rose and Cruiser but Shaw wanted to vote. He knew that the two chicken eggs were going to dodge their duties so what else could he do? The rezone goes against the plan and that should have been that. Even the attorney pointed out that the word "only" was not a mistake because it made it through to the second iteration of the plan in 07. I do think that their slips were hanging when they both said how important this rezone is. They mean that the promise of jobs and bowing down to big industry is important. Not that it's important to stay with the plan that we as a county came up with after gathering public input before AEHI starting pimping jobs for support. Maybe P&Z should just revise the plan to state that they will harass and deny the requests of everyday citizens but if anyone that doesn't live here comes in and offers jobs, they can build anything they want, anywhere. If they approve this nuke plant how could they ever deny anything again without getting sued? Especially when you consider that they had a plan in place and deliberately went against it or changed it. It's a nuke plant. It emits the most toxic waste on the planet and the only place they can store it is here.

Paul- here is a recent report from the City's Economic Development Director on what the City does in getting out there to attract business. He would also be able to answer any specific questions in regards to how many inquiries are made on various vacant properties. These are great questions, and this is a topic of great interest at our council meetings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FG5S98ry...

I understand that reason, however, How involved is the council on putting Mtn. Home out there. You have to sell yourself and get the word out. I don't think that happened.

jr, I am not a SRA member. Shows what you know. Ulterior motives? I have none but I do believe that property owners should have the right to protect their investments. I also believe that our elected officials should protect the people...even when that decision is not popular to Mr. Otter.

As far as keeping MH the same...I am not for that but I am for growth that does not hurt the citizens on Elmore County. How much will all of those jobs and money help us when either we have little water or what water we have is polluted?

As far as your other babble out there...I am from Chicago. I know about politics and growth. "Smallville" really is not my thing nor are the politics of "Smallville" and the obvious lack of common sense that seems to prevail around here.

My opinion is she is a typical Mountain Homer that wants to keep this place the way it is.

Seems to be the popular thing, I am just waiting out my time here as most do, the weridos seem to stay and try to bend everyone's neck to their liking.

I just wonder what the Landlords of Business buildings in this city are thinking,

a Recession Economy, belt tightening on all fronts and they are asking unreasonable rents?

I would think a building with tenants is better than

empty storefronts. It appears we have plenty of the latter.

Our Downtown will need both business owners and property owners to work together to revitalize the area.

I believe that your time could be better utilized by volunteering in the community rather than sitting around and criticizing. Get out there - do something positive and everything else won't seem so bad.

Don't you ever have anything positive or complementary to say? What miserable boring lives you must have. Not everyone is corrupt!!! There are people who actually care about this community who don't feel the need to constantly run every agency down.

I just want to know how they can afford to pay for the gas in that truck and if we as a county are paying for any portion of it?

What is the SO ?

so did they all three vote yes for the nuke plant?

opinion Missy, Right on, you called a spade a spade. Did you really think the three stooges could handle the responsability of zoning for a Nuclear power plant ? Maybe we need another cheese plant.

I was at the CC's "meeting" today and it went like many things Elmore County. If the rules/vision do not fit what you try to do...apply to have them changed (with help from the Elmore County Prosecuting Attorney). Our ECC's are spineless and deserve to be recalled based on their inability to understand their own regulations. If you do not know what you are doing----hire a LAND USE attorney to help you but then again it was just as easy to hand things back to P & Z and not have to make a grown up decision after MONTHS of hearings and meetings. Same old same old for Elmore County which is why we end up with all of the crap "industry" that we have. If you can not wear your adult pants you need to pass the job off to someone who can. All 3 of you folks are a waste of taxpayer time and money (IMHO only of course). It would be interesting to see who has been paid what and when and for what. It is always about money.

RECALL ALL 3!

Keep picking at the scab Peter....don't you feel good about yourself.

A bit more info on ECC's meeting today this suppose to be the start of it.

9:00 A.M. CALL MEETING TO ORDER

9:00 A.M. Deliberate on Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc. Re-zone Request

10:00 A.M. Discuss Proposed 2010 Budget

Gee WMG, for being so "up" on things you are sure slow on the info highway. Yes, he stated a bit of an untruth at the GF "public" meeting and as luck would have it is lacking in the area of MIT as he represented/stated the facts (on the record and after being asked a very pointed/direct question). Take what you want from that but we have the info from MIT in print.

so OM, are you saying Gillespie DOES NOT have those degrees, or that you doubt he does, or what?

Not that you want to hear from me, EE, but if you click the "view all comments" icon above, you can read the latest comments in the same wide screen viewing pleasure that the blogs provide...Peter

We have some of the same problems in the Mtn Home area and even tho the owner caused the mess is no reason why those healthy and full of energy don't step up and help them out.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

Sorry for the length of the post below. The letter was 3 pages long and it is hard to cut that down. EE, try not to rip me apart too bad on this one please (because it is a "novel"). Thanks!

Hi Wally Gillispie,

Well, I did read Gillispie's blog, and I still have a copy of his Elmore handout claiming meltdowns can never happen, and claiming he will only use only 100,000 galons of water/day, and how he can mystically produce power from his Areva reactor for 3 cents/kwhr. I stil have Areva's statement on water use and costs that prove Donnie G is blatantly lying to Elmore County. So feel free to call me a nutcase no one listens too. If nobody is listening, why do you keep trying to call me names, and keep pretending Gillispie tells the truth? ...Peter

Mr Rickards its clear to me you didnt read Gillespies blog but that doesnt surprise me. He raises an important point about the poverty in these areas and how the farmers, SRA and maybe even you dont give a whit about these people. Gillespie is up front that he is out to make money for his company, like a foot doctor or any other bizness should - but he also wants to bring wellpaying jobs to the area. Strange how people always call you a nutcase and wont listen to what you say because they dont like you and now your doin it to someone else

Kendall, it's been in the media that AEHI submitted a development agreement that says the zoning reverts to ag if the nuke plant isn't built. It's not their fault the county made a specific decision not to consider the development agreement as part of the rezone process. Either the county entered the process in bad faith, hoping to screw it up, or they didn't know any better and screwed it up. Presumably, there is a correct way to bind a development agreement to a rezone. The only issue here is getting it done the correct way. Otherwise, nothing could get built or developed.

... Hey, wait a sec, maybe that's what you really really want! It's a good thing that's already built or people would be complaining about the noise from jets, bombs, high explosives, etc. that go with an air base.

Face it, the SRA just wants to stop the plant. After that, they'll go right on back to ignoring Elmore County, unless there' something else there they don't like.

Upon review of Elmore County Zoning and Development Ordinance and the prior decisions of the Elmore County Commission, rezoning Agricultural parcels to Heavy Industrial (M2) appears to be a seriously binding process that could potentially expose Elmore County to a range of undesirable future land uses.

Any ordinance which changes the zoning map is a binding commitment. According to 6-3-9 (a) of the Elmore County Zoning and Development Ordinance, "if the Board approves a zoning ordinance map amendment pursuant to a request from a property owner, the Board shall not subsequently reverse its action or otherwise change the zoning classification as set forth in Idaho Code section 67-6511 (d)."

The permanence of a zoning change decision is disturbing when one considers the potential uses allowed on land zoned M2. According to Commission Minutes from April 8th, 2009, M2 uses include: manufacturing processes that use flammable or explosive materials, or storage of materials that potentially involve hazardous or commonly recognized offensive conditions ... which require large amounts of water or where the by-products of such use such as noise, smoke, odor, glare, gas, or heavy vehicle use are present or generated.

If the Commission approves AEHI's rezone application on Monday, the two parties will enter the process of development agreement. A development agreement is defined in 6-2-1 of the Elmore County Zoning and Development Ordinance as "a written agreement between the Board and an owner or applicant concerning the use or development of a property." Because no agreement has been made prior to the rezone vote, AEHI is not legally obligated to construct. Without a development agreement, AEHI has the potential to sell its land at any point and expose Elmore County to a new owner. This new owner could then use the land for any number of undesirable purposes allowed by an M2 zoning designation.

On Monday morning, the Commissioners expressed concern regarding the possible future land uses that this rezone decision implies. It is their duty to look beyond the possible short-term gains of the proposed AEHI project and consider all the possible scenarios of their decision. Rezoning a parcel from Agricultural to Heavy Industrial could have severely negative impacts on future generations of Elmore County residents.

Kendall Webster

Intern, Snake River Alliance

Masters Candidate, Urban and Environmental Policy and Planning, Tufts University

Beau:

You are correct!

I got up this morning and my mamma moo (our cow) was calving. We have a healthy, baby calf this morning that is so cute! What a little miracle. And oh those eyelashes.

Mouthy:

I work 2 jobs to have the things that I do have. Smug, cheap and constipated! Thank you.

As far as "special access" (re: a blog) all you have to do is ask for a blog (from the MHN) and you too can have "special access." Thanks for your opinions but you have me confused with someone who really cares what you think. Have a nice night and maybe go to the ER and see if they cannot help you to remove that stick from your backside before you really have problems.

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So why not pay for an ad Don just like the rest of us have to do? If you had that much to say and it was that important...place a dang ad. Not like it is your money or anything! Pay to print your 700 words of how great you are.

Greeter,

Thank you for putting a very fine point on your sides outlook. You all just can't stand it that we can speak out. If the information is public, and easily attainable, why would you have a problem with me posting it on this little board? Cause it kills you and Don that anyone can ever say anything against his BS. Also, thanks for posting that exhaustive crybaby post from his blog. His first sentence complains about democracy. Too bad that comrade Gillespie can't just control all the information about this issue and send all us opposers to the Gulag. He complains about the SRA calling the cops on him. Even though AEHI filed a frivolous lawsuit against the SRA that was thrown out and had a 250-pound employee of theirs say that a guy, who maybe weighs a buck fifty soakin wet, assaulted him. He paints the meeting as overwhelmingly for AEHI and it's just simply not true. There were more people that spoke against the rezone than there were that spoke for it. I was there and counted. Who can blame a person for putting in their resumes and showing support so that they can get a job? It just makes me wonder what someone that needs a job, wouldn't support. It also makes a person wonder if they would've had any supporters if they didn't promise jobs for support. Maybe when they appeal the rezone denial they can offered cash for support. Oh wait....they don't have any cash. Whoops there goes that dang ol freedom of speech thingy. For Gillespie to even mention shenanigans is ridiculous. From his being introduced as the Grand Pooh-Bah of AEHI and the commissioners asking what that has to do with the rezone, to their showing picture after picture of nuke sites with cows grazing and the commissioners interrupting and asking what that had to do with the rezone. AEHI's presentation didn't address the rezone anywhere near as much as it cheerleaded for them. Serious businessmen? Naw....just hucksters. The only people they out hustled was slight of hand magicians. I also find it hard to take to heart the "workin man" tone of his blog very seriously when the wannabe Auto Exec showed up in a Maserati for the rezone hearing on Monday. Maybe if he really believed in his project he could dip his toe in the real workin mans pool and step all the way down to a BMW. Donny's time would be better spent out fundraising, rather than writing a couple thousand words complaining about the freedom of speech of the SRA and other people that he obviously can't answer. Ya see boys this is America, so fight for what you believe in and I personally will defend your right to do so. But crying about freedom of speech is very unbecoming.

"The Mountain Home News welcomes views or questions on any issue. We hope you'll express yourself freely and responsibly. We reserve the right to exclude entries that we deem disrespectful, threatening, obscene or in other ways objectionable. Due to recent changes we are now able to allow links in the Banter Box."

Funny---no rule about the number of words that a person can have in a post.

There should be some sort of word limit here. This site is way to often hijacked by people who use this site as their own personal blog.

Interestting information from Gillespie's blog at www.cleanidahoenergy.wordpress.com. The Snake River Alliance sure does some wierd stuff behind the scenes.

Snake River Alliance does Idaho no favors June 3, 2009

Posted by cleanidahoenergy in AEHI, Agriculture, Greenfield nuclear development, Mountain Home News, Snake River Alliance, anti-renewable energy, economic benefits, renewable energy.

Tags: AEHI, AEHI stock, civility, Elmore County, environmentalists, farms, Idaho, nuclear power, nuclear power and acrigulture, renewable energy, Snake River Alliance, stockholders

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[We submitted this opinion to the Mountain Home news last month but space constraints kept it from being published.]

Democracy gives people a lot of latitude in how to get something done, or to stop it from being done. The events over the last few weeks have been really useful in showing how we and the Snake River Alliance differ on those counts. Heat doesn't substitute for light and even a group as prickly as the Snake River Alliance should know that a civil tone will help public discussion of important issues like energy.

Our efforts to prepare for the April 20 rezone hearing were aboveboard and successful. We launched a public information campaign to let people know about our table to collect resumes and letters of interest and around 500 showed up and wore stickers supporting AEHI. I spoke at clubs, groups, associations, business and anywhere else people would have me, and not all of these venues were friendly.

We collected 1,600 signatures through much hard work going door-to-door, going to food lines, going to workplaces, going to places the SRA wouldn't bother going. We produced an informational video and mailed it to each household in Elmore County. We sent a letter to every resident of Hammett to address their specific concerns. We launched a traditional advertising campaign and used the new tools of social media to get the word out.

In contrast, the Snake River Alliance prepared for the rezone hearing with bizarre and unethical gimmicks. A week or so before the hearing, the SRA complained to the Glenns Ferry Police Department that I shoved SRA employee Liz Woodruff at a March 10 Glenns Ferry City Council meeting -- in a room full of the public, city officials and police officers, no less! The authorities did their duty and, after interviewing me and other people, found the accusation without merit. Clearly, the SRA was fishing for an "October surprise" a week before the rezone hearing, hoping to smear my reputation and throw the meeting into disarray.

These shenanigans have no place in public policy. It probably didn't help the SRA that Mrs. Woodruff on March 24 publicly apologized to the Glenns Ferry City Council for her childish behavior at that March 10 council meeting, where she sought to disrupt my presentation.

All this is relevant because it speaks to the SRA's involvement in the public process. As hard as they try to keep a veneer of civility, they openly and behind-the-scenes do what they can do disrupt the local process. Apparently, they were able to restrain themselves more or less for the rezone hearing, but they and their supporters formed "groups" to get more speaking time. Then, individual members of the "groups" spoke, violating the principle the county established for recognizing groups .

Clearly, the SRA does best when surrounded by supporters and friends, but their thin-skinned nature leads them to do some strange things. For example, sometimes the SRA seems immune to common sense. To emphasize that nuclear plants are a good fit with rural areas, we showed pictures of cows grazing a stone's throw from nuclear plants and Andrea Shipley's response was to say "the property at issue is not grazed by cows" (actually, cows graze the only adjacent private land). As the SRA well knows, our plant would take up around 200 acres, with the remainder of the 1,300 acre parcel to remain farmland.

To say our plant would "upend surrounding ag uses" is preposterous. For the real story on how our plant would affect the area, see my open letter to the citizens of Hammett at www.cleanidahoenergy.wordpress.com. There are plenty of photos of nuclear plants surrounded by hayfields, wildlife habitat, estuaries and near small towns (yes, we're well aware there are no estuaries in Elmore County).

In the face of our campaign, the SRA says the jobs will never materialize -- but the SRA is working as hard as it can to stop the jobs from ever materializing. We've already put 100 Idahoans to work and as long as investors continue to fund us, that's their concern, not the SRA's. They say we haven't finalized enough details about our plant, but you know if we had every detail plotted out they'd complain we were being presumptuous. At this stage, we are simply seeking to rezone the land, yet they chide us for not having each and every aspect of our plant finalized.

Speaking of our business, Ms. Shipley breathlessly states the obvious in quoting our SEC report, which says "AEHI has limited funds and such funds will not be adequate to carry out the business plan without borrowing significant funds. The ultimate success of AEHI may depend upon its ability to raise additional capital ... and it could fail." OK, so we openly admit don't have enough money to build a nuclear reactor and need more investment to build it. So? Utilities, developers, companies and anyone else building anything must seek investment capital as well.

Ms. Shipley is either uneducated about start-up public companies, or she is seeking to misrepresent our funding picture. We are the only publicly owned company in the nation seeking to build an independent nuclear power plant; traditional utilities, for whatever reasons, haven't constructed enough power plants and we are stepping up to meet the demand. Like any other start-up, we seek investment for what we propose. If we get it, we may succeed, and if we don't, we fail. Anyone who has run a business, or who is not terribly out-of-touch with business, understands that.

The Snake River Alliance's contempt for working people is evident in its own site, as well as those of supporters. Among the drawbacks of our plant, according to the SRA's Jan. 9 news release, would be "thousands of construction workers" in Elmore County (http://tinyurl.com/qxgnm9). I guess if someone has a problem with construction workers, that would be a concern, but to people who are willing to work hard and get something built, it's an insult. Or, this gem from http://tinyurl.com/p43rar, refers this way to people who came to our table: "To what degree will these curbside applicants feel like darned fools?"

If this is the best the Snake River Alliance can offer, it has grossly underestimated our tenacity, the depth of our support and the necessity of our enterprise.

Ms. Shipley claimed I am "obsessed with counting stickers" but that is the closest she comes to acknowledging the truth: People at the meeting were overwhelmingly supportive of the rezone and the SRA's vaunted community organizing efforts didn't produce much in that regard. The best Ms. Shipley can do is to discount our efforts to create jobs and say the jobs won't come soon enough, or at all, or they won't be for Elmore residents -- while simultaneously doing all she can to stop the jobs from ever coming. Tactically, the SRA was out-hustled, but that in itself means nothing as the ultimate measure of success lies with the Elmore County Commission.

Most valuable are the resumes of hundreds of highly qualified, hardworking Idahoans we collected and hope to call on as soon as we can. They and thousands of other supporters hope we prevail over the SRA and its newfound allies.

Anti-nukes use another two-faced approach when they say nuclear power shouldn't be pursued because we have no place to store or reprocess the waste, but then they work against storage and reprocessing solutions. It's worth pointing out Areva is planning for reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel in the US (http://tinyurl.com/pwfblo). The firm recently shared with bloggers its conceptual thinking about a 800 ton/year plant which it says is the answer to apparent end of the Yucca Mountain repository project.

Given the traditional antagonism between environmental groups like the SRA and agriculture, it is not surprising Ms. Shipley is out of touch with ag issues. News alert for Ms. Shipley: Farming in Idaho is largely constrained by the high cost of water, because pumping that water is becoming increasingly expensive. Irrigators currently pay close to 4 cents per kilowatt hour, but Idaho Power is asking for an 11.1 percent increase in that rate. Many farmers spend thousands of dollars a month on power costs. According to the U.S. Energy Information Agency, it costs 1.8 cents to produce a kilowatt-hour of electricity with nuclear power, and that power is produced more than 90 percent of the time (http://tinyurl.com/2pgc8k).

This kind of reliable low-cost power is exactly what high-lift irrigators and other farmers need to stay economically competitive. According to the American Wind Energy Association, wind costs around 5 cents per kilowatt hour (http://tinyurl.com/kyg8u) with federal subsidies -- when it's blowing, which is around 20 percent of the time on average. Ms. Shipley should know business can't operate under those power terms; we only make it work by importing half our energy for out-of-state coal plants.

It strains belief that Ms. Shipley would claim "Idaho is not out of power ... Idaho has ample electricity resources." Perhaps she should tell that laughable claim to the two major employers who bypassed southern Idaho in 2007 because Idaho Power couldn't provide electricity! Surely, she is just as disappointed as the rest of us about the loss of those jobs.

The fact that Idaho imports half its energy is proof enough that we need to develop our own dispatchable baseload resources in-state. It's no secret that Idaho Power hasn't developed a base-load power plant in Idaho in at least 30 years, choosing instead buying shares in out-of-state coal plants. I really can't blame them; after getting a taste of the difficulty in developing a power plant, I can see why Idaho Power has evidently given up on new baseload power in Idaho.

That brings me to my next point, which is that energy developers of all kinds are facing a harder time getting anything built, and no advocacy groups are stepping forward to support them. As you read this, dozens of rural landowners want to "curb enthusiasm for" and ultimately kill plans to plant wind turbines and string a green-field power line segment across the northern Laramie Range in Wyoming (http://tinyurl.com/polydc). The Northern Laramie Range Alliance is fighting wind energy, which the Snake River Alliance points to as the future of energy generation.

Something tells me the Snake River Alliance and its allies won't be showing up to help these wind power developers -- or anyone who's trying to build a power plant.

AEHI's stock went down 44% today. That's gotta hurt.

Pooh,

Regarding your post about the school board election and the board contesting the vote.

I would think this is news and that maybe the Mountain Home News could look into it and report what is going on, who is involved, and why the vote is being contested.

Most other papers would write about it in their town. Newspapers are the informers for the public right?

What do you think Mountain Home News? Is there any truth to this?

Hey thanks for the rezone meeting update Atomic Dog. Here is the Times-News report url at http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2009...

I paste the best part where fork-tongued Gillispie even agrees with your assessment that he would have lost the vote if taken. Still won't pop the champaigne until the rezone is rejected officially, but it looks like common sense may prevail. Please keep the encouragement for rejection burning in the CC's ears this crucial week. Gillispie will be offering the pot of gold at the end of his imaginary rainbow in their ears all week, for sure...Peter

"AEHI CEO Don Gillispie seemed concerned about his project's prospects after the meeting, and said that he thinks commissioners would have rejected the rezone if they had voted. He said some items he submitted were left out of the discussion, including a proposed developer agreement that would undo the rezone if AEHI doesn't build the plant, and an economic study he said shows no harm to public services.

The developer agreement, on file with the county, states the zoning "may be" reversed if the agreement is terminated. But it also doesn't obligate the actual owner of the land to any of AEHI's requirements, and it wasn't clear Monday afternoon how that would affect that clause."

They put the vote off until next week. Two of the commish's were ready to vote. A third has a question about something that doesn't matter so the vote was put off. They meet again next week. All the regulars were there, both for and opposed. The commissioners did do a pretty good job of stating that this meeting was to decide whether or not a piece of property near Hammett would be rezoned for heavy industrial use. And that if that property were rezoned and the applicant quit on their project would everyone be happy with that piece staying heavy industrial. One glaring omission in my opinion was if this piece is rezoned in opposition to the grand master plan then how could they justify ever turning anyone down for anything in the future. IMHO it's over but one never knows.

AD: do you have any details on the meeting?

iwonderwhy: I'm sure if there was enough of a call for it locally they would have one. They also have one in canyon County I believe. But those two areas have many more people than we do.

Im a disgusted with the letter Martine wrote about how awful this has all been for him and his family....How dare he! Imagine what this "man" has done to his victims families. I personally know Maritn....Hes not a good person, never ever has been. His criminal history is extensive to say the least...He knows what he did. While I did not know the female victim of Martins crime, I did know Robert. To say the very least he was a genuine, good good person. I bet he did tell Martin just that, that they were brothers. And look what Martin did to his "brother".....Look at all of the pain he has caused so many people, especially the 3 children who will no longer have their parents. I hope he gets everything that he deserves...I for one feel NO sympathy for him at all. He's a parasite.

Here is something else that was interesting. This is a post (if the name is correct and the person is being honest) by the young man that was reported to have killed 2 people that just cannot seem to be convicted. The story can be found on the MHN under most viewed. This guy really has some nerve.

"I also am tired of waiting for my justice. I have spent 482 days in jail, but have not been found guilty of any crime. Me and my family suffer,my children suffer. Yet no one concerns themselves with that. I must jump through every hoop the county deems necessary, although I have not been found guilty of any crime. This county has spent 90,000 dollars on two different trials, and out of twenty-four jury members only two thought I was guilty, another two could not reach a decision. As for the remaining twenty members of the jury their vote was cast for that of my innocence. The letter of the law states that any defendant is to be presumed innocent. I feel that the people of this county whom sat on my juries as a result of their vote have by a majority upheld that innocence. If the prosecutor takes me to a third trial it will be the first time in the history of the state that there has been two hung juries and then a third trial. At a cost to the taxpayers of this county an additional 45,000 dollars, at least.

Robert Garner was the closest person to me in the world. I would always tell him he was my best friend, He would just laugh and say, "no mike we're brothers". Well brother I miss you. I miss you everyday. Holding him the night he passed away is the first and last thought I have everyday of my life. Both families opinion of me has not detoured me from keeping them in my thoughts and prayers."

-- Posted by mike martin on Fri, Jun 5, 2009, at 9:57 PM

Hey, you could always plead guilty and be done with it. You know...do the right thing maybe. Why cost the county more money? Nice post Mr. Martin but I still do not feel sorry for you. My heart goes out to the victims and the children who lost their parent(s) as well as the people they have left behind. Do you care at all about them or just yourself and how much time you have been in jail unable to score more drugs? Just wondering. Nice post sir. Does your attorney know that you did this? Are you out on bond now or have we paid for you to get a computer to use in jail? Just wondering how my tax dollars are being spent.

Kudos again to the Police, Fire and Street Department along with the COPs. They were all out in force both during and after the massive rain tonight trying to stem the tide of water that seemed to be flowing on many of the roads in the City. Having been out doing the same thing in the past, I know how hard these fine folks worked their tails off. My hat is off to them as I hope many others will do.

I had the pleasure of being caught in the middle of that hail storm yesterday. I swear that the water level was up to the door of my truck going through the underpass. Or so it seemed. (wink)

For those of you actively seeking employment, here's some information I received today about a class held by the DOL in Boise (not currently available in Mtn Home).

Maximizing Job Searching through Online Networking

Every Tuesday

10:00 a.m. - Noon

Idaho Department of Labor

219 W. Main St. -- Boise

Learn to use online networking tools to build and cultivate relationships and uncover new job prospects.

During this FREE workshop you will learn:

* The importance of defining your goals before going online

* About the most popular online networking sites

* How to register and get connected on some of the most popular networking sites such as LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter

* How to create, build, and cultivate relationships over the web

* Why employers are actively scanning networking sites for potential candidates

* The rules of online etiquette (Netiquette)

I have to mow my lawn twice a week. I choose Sunday and Thursday.

This maybe interesting reading for our local law enforcement.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_o...

I am confused...

"I am certainly not going to spend my entire summer reasearching when, if the fact I was missing was so important, I would more than likely already know it."

If you do not know it...you missed it so how do you already know it when you missed it? Just wondering there yoB.

On to other things. Is anyone else following the story of David Goldman who has been attempting to get his son out of Brazil after his former wife died years ago? He went to (is in Brazil again) and still cannot get his son out of there! He is the father and the mother is dead (the boy resides with his step-father). Come on Hillary! It is time to bring this US citizen home to his dad (it has been 5 years). This is a very sad story.

Why Not, just another way for breaking a promise when he was running for President.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090603/ap_o...

Well, way I see it. The MHN just finished their deadline. They are either sitting around waiting for print... or they are getting ready for the next issue. In the Tiger Tribune staff room... this was the time that was least craziest. Now, we only put out a paper once a month (That's all we could afford, if that) and the MHN publishes every week. But I don't understand why they would be upset if I did go though and flag posts... why else would they create the tool?

Ms. Lauric... I really don't know what facts you say I am missing. I am sure there are facts you don't know about the WECRD either... I am certainly not going to spend my entire summer reasearching when, if the fact I was missing was so important, I would more than likely already know it. See, the little things don't get me too often. Because they are little. If I had issues with all of the little facts and little misunderstandings... I would have a hard time accepting ANYTHING. Basically... the little things do not haunt me.

Yes yoB, you do just that. Go through each and every one becaue I am sure that the person at the MHN has nothing better to do today. Why not research the WECRD? Their office is open today. You are missing some facts on this isuue. Dig yoB-dig!

Have a nice day all. Glad to see the rain for the farmers today.

Beau, there ya go again, complimenting my work! Thanks! I am thinking about having some of them framed, and now when I"m out takin' shots, I have angles and stuff in mind. But still, I love seeing what I see, and bringing home the memories.

Jessie

JACKMAN

YOU are so paranoid - you make me laugh. So funny to read your comment. I am just rolling - thanks for making my day.

Jackman

Why don't you call the MHN and get yours facts straight, it doesn't take phone call from a commenter to get deleted, that has happened alot of weekends. From what I have seen you can get deleted anytime in the 24/7.

Hi all,

I called the CC's office about what the MHN's called an open discussion by the CC's about the nuclear power plant. Apparently, the MHN's got the story and title wrong. Thee CC's will NOT discuss their thoughts on nuclear power, but will stick to their plan to ONLY discuss step one, is a generic rezone from Ag to any Industrial acceptable.

That at least makes sense, and I hope they say NO. The way the MHN's read was simply wrong...Peter

WB...funny how that karma comes back huh? Could not have come back to a better person, IMHO of course. You made my day. Take care of yourself and have a safe ride home. Hay is being cut and it smells so nice outside today.

Hey...did anyone else notice that values of land and homes went up this year on taxes? Funny how that works since the market is down, etc. We must be recession proof here or something.

Beau, I don't know what is going to be at the old Hungry Onion drive in, but you are right Grindes was there before moving to the old Dairy Queen on Airbase road. I do know Tracy has a CUP with the city when I see him I will ask what he is doing.

Sounds to me that uglyk9 got touched by the MHN..I would say you should be able to post anything you want....isn't that how you feel..... except for hmmmmmmmmmmm maybe a license plate number on zapatag.com..........karma baby... karma

untouchable, if you have a problem with getting deleted take it up with the MHN.

dreamer, maybe the WECRD should take a lesson from their speaking at the City at the past meeting when Ms Ashcraft got to speak for about 10 minutes well over the time limit but people can't speak at the WECRD meetings that way.

For those of you interested about the meeting with the City Counsel last week ....read the following.

Betty Ashcraft, liaison for WECRD, was called to speak to the CC.

She said:

Thank you, Mayor Rist, for inviting me to share the progress of the WECRD with you and the CC.

First of all, I am pleased to report that we have been awarded appropriations for FY 08 and FY 09 for a total amount of $579,000. Our FY 2010 Federal Appropriations Application is in Congressman Simpson's office along with 172 letters of support from residents of Elmore County. These letters were gathered in a week when Cong. Simpson's representative contacted me two weeks ago for current letters of support. (It seems that some of the previous supporters had withdrawn their support for a recreation center.) The response was immediate and overwhelming from business leaders, medical professionals, senior citizens, students, and educators.

Our Environmental Assessment is almost complete and the County Commissioners are reviewing the process to determine their becoming the Responsible Entity. According to Brent Butler, the Director for Growth and Development, our recreation center falls under the guidelines of Chapter 10 of the Comprehensive Growth and Development Plan.

The WECRD came to the conclusion that outside professional help would address the many public concerns and doubts, so we found experts in the field -- the world renowned YMCA experts --. The Treasure Valley YMCA has been active since 1891! Jim Everett, CEO of the TVYMCA, called this afternoon with his regrets that he could not be here this evening to reiterate to the CC the strong desire of the TVYMCA to partner with the WECRD in building a recreation center.

Of all the decisions needed for this project, the swimming pool has captured the most discussion, debate and dissection. In the past 5 years, the YMCA has built facilities in West Boise, Caldwell, and Hailey and they all have aquatic facilities. Our proactive response to citizens' concerns regarding the feasibility of operating and sustaining a year round swimming pool and the reservations expressed on the sustainability of the aquatics component in the rec center can best be answered by the success of these recreation centers in various population sizes and by the thorough process the YMCA uses to determine the design and components for a recreation center.

With that in mind..... Our BOD will meet the concerns and include in our action plan to conduct citizen surveys and a market study.

The most exciting development is the working relationship with the Treasure Valley YMCA. Billie Bernasconi, YMCA's Director of Strategic Operations, has issued a press release naming Alan Bermensolo and Mark Hiddleston co-chairs of the Leadership Committee.

A brief summary of our plan of action with the TVYMCA is this:

1. Identify the leadership committee and designate study groups.

2. Develop a survey for the citizens of Western Elmore County.

3. Conduct a Market Study with the citizens of Western Elmore County to determine recreation needs and support for different elements of recreation.

4. The Market Study will be used to decide viability of different components in the recreation center in Western Elmore County.

5. The YMCA Board will make a decision whether to partner with the WECRD and create a Western Elmore County TVYMCA.

This process will take at least a year from now to complete. The time will be well spent and this information is what we all want and need to make the best decisions.

Above all, the WECRD wants to build a recreation center that is designed for the community. From after school activities to fit and fall proof classes for our senior population. We all want safe, affordable, and creative activities to make Elmore County a healthier and more productive place to live.

Public response to partnering with the YMCA has been very positive even from our leading opponent who sent a congratulatory e-mail to the WECRD office.

(Read Email Here)

Thank you for inviting us to let you know the latest developments with the WECRD and our becoming the Western Elmore County YMCA. Please remember that our regularly scheduled meeting is the 2nd Thursday at noon and the 4th Wednesday at 7 PM.

************************************************

Does anyone know what happened next?

What the heck MOUNTAIN HOME NEWS.COM! why was my post deleted? I for ONCE was being nice to OM

OM,

So who are you to tell people to "keep their mouth shut" they or all of us have the right to speak our mind, just like you do.

So I guess the message your trying to get across to all who speak (type on the BB) is to pretty much better have their facts or dont say anything at all?????

Who made your ruler or "Queen" of the Banter Box? curious...Oh and OM since we are on that topic of "Getting the Facts right" deal...I never said the cops were coming to your house, nor did I say I called the cops on you, so quit being delusional. Oh OM I prayed for you at my Church today. Hope the big man upstairs heard it.

K9, unlike you...I do not call people criminals or state that they have done something when I have no proof (like stealing a dog). Funny, no police yet and also no email from the people in TF who are missing their dog(s).

A threat to yoB---was that a joke? It had to be. There was no threat just the statement that if she did not have all of her facts she should keep her mouth shut. There was no threat...and had there been...the MHN would have deleted my comment. See a doctor k9. You are not well.

New facts regarding the WECRD soon. So, did we get our tax bills yet?

Just to throw it out there, there is a traffic safety board meeting every month. I believe the city council meets on the 2nd Mon and the traffic board meets the Tue after, maybe more people should go to those meetings and express their opinions on the things they see including me. The Chief of Police does attend those meetings so its a good way to bring up all the traffic problems.

OM says:

"It is easy to lie about people when you hide behind that screen name. Boy, you are the big man huh?"

Riiighhtt....and I bet you feel like a big woman making threats via internet, especially to a 17 year old Girl to "Shut your mouth!" right? does that make you feel any better? Does that help you feel good about yourself? you have to down-grade other people? TRY TO, keyword TRY TO intimidate people via Internet?

Old Guy

I can't really answer your question, but I think the signs are placed where they are at is due to the high volume of people that cross the street in those areas and it has nothing to do with the bars. Only people that can really answer you question is the Chief of Police or the Mayor, and just to add those signs are $300 a copy so I sure don't want them at all the crosswalks with that kind of cost. I will say my pet projects have been people to use crosswalks safely and the use of cell phones while driving and I am not going to give up on either.

Bottom feeder

uglyk9,

you just really can't take it can you.... it's such a shame........ time to feed don't you think..

K9, I do not drink java or alcohol, thank you. And why keep your stupid remarks all to myself when I can share all of your stupidity with others. Have a nice night. Oh, and the police never came to check out the dog.

Thank you MHN for the update on the girl hit by the car. I am glad she will be okay.

"When you say "Rescued" in quotes do you really mean "Stolen" because It sounds like to me they stole this pup from this car or truck.

Which is Against the law...you should browse the Craigslist "Lost & Found" section for Twin Falls and Their is a puppy matching that description that you gave. You are harboring and in pocession of stolen property...which makes you a criminal."

-- Posted by the_untouchable2k9 on Thu, May 28, 2009, at 5:45 PM

Really? Description I gave? I am sure I have the only black puppy in all of Idaho that is 8 weeks old! So...call the police. They know where to find me. If you know of a "crime" and do not report it...you too are a criminal. I can promise you that the puppy was NOT stolen and I am no criminal. Email the people on Craig's List as well (my email is opinionmissy2009@yahoo.com). Oh, and while you are at it...report me for the starved horse we took in that was put down a few months back because he was just too sick. There is a picture of him on my blog as well. Come on K9, settle this with me on a public forum and call the police!

You really should see a doctor K9.

untouchable - if you want to drop it, the best way is to drop it - not keep posting. A year since being laid off? I'm sure you know first hand, but that sucks. Any luck getting on somewhere?

Lets refresh everyone's memory...Vic said on his post:

"Let's do a quick poll: Is this cool or not? I say uncool. Oh yeah, lady who hit my wife's car is a Mountain Home City Police Officer. The only reason I mention this is because people in positions like that should be setting good examples for the public, and this is a public forum. To me that doesn't sound like a good message to be sending. Buy hey, that's just my opinion. So we'll send a copy of the police report to the insurance company and not rely on the fair-minded sensibilities of a local citizen who also happens to represent our local police department."

Seriously what is wrong with you people, it was a parked car, vic obviously didnt say if his wife was hurt or not, but pretty much say in a nut shell he was mentally hurt, not physically hurt, because of the whole paying for the replacement bumper, cost of insurance going up etc...

NOWHERE did I say she should not take responsibility for her actions, the point I was trying to come across was for him not to even say the fact that she was a Police Officer from the MHPD, its called Slandering!!!!

by saying...."Oh yeah, lady who hit my wife's car is a Mountain Home City Police Officer" so what?

We still dont know her side of the story, we dont know what is going on with her side, therfor all of us (including me) shouldnt be passing judgement against the other person without hearing the other side. Period end of story, i'm done with this subject...lets move on to another one.

the_untouchable2k9

you are so predictable..... like feeding carp...

workingbee,

you said:

"I think that "the_untouchable2k9" needs an ethics refresher..seems to think that just because you serve and protect you don't have to be personnally responsible for your actions, EVER.......but then he thinks he is untouchable.."

I never said that this Police officer shouldnt be accountable for their actions at all, but my point I was trying to get across was coming onto this BB and blasting this lady that hit Vic's car, which he said was a police officer from the MHPD.

To me that was not cool, but it seems like the Mountain Home News's Banter Box has its first Three stooges:

VicVega, OpinionMissy, and well you Workingbee

mhg,

She has in fact had many threats on this BB as you mentioned, even accusing me a Former Micron Employee which got layed off a year ago as a "Police Officer" and get this mhg....working on the "Inside" I hope she gets the best helps she needs.

VicVega ~ UNCOOL

I think that "the_untouchable2k9" needs an ethics refresher..seems to think that just because you serve and protect you don't have to be personnally responsible for your actions, EVER.......but then he thinks he is untouchable..

He did write

"VicVega,

I feel for your frustration, but by posting on here that she is a police woman from the MHPD, you want us to be more "sympathetic" towards you?

Not me! sorry I aint playing that card"

Maybe because The_Untouchable isn't playing with a full deck of cards.....

Guardian, Thanks for the sense of humor. I confess to not knowing crap either; but, I know it when I smell it.

OM, I reread my last post and saw nothing that indicated you should look for a shoe that fits. As such, I decline taking credit for tickling your opinion along with causing your indignation. One may conclude that you chose to throw a jab my way out of habit. Perhaps, like Mr. Magoo, you see what you want to see.

ok yob

I will back off what I said I did misunderstand your comment and a stop lite will not fix the problem, it take the people driving to get off the cell phones and pay attention to what they are doing when driving. All I have seen over the years is people driving just ignore people in a crosswalk or the ones waiting to cross and afraid to step into the street cause of all the no give a crap about watching what they are doing.

yoB go back and read this was not early morning or late evening when the sun is in your eyes.

My mental health is just fine thanks. It is some of the rest of you that live in another world and seem to not have the ability to deal with reality. MHG, my 3 cases on your favorite web page sure make me a real court hound! Get a life. Have a very nice night all.

OG, nice post. Enjoy your night and bless the little girl that was hit and her family.

Read the story of a 12 year old being hit in a cross walk on main street with the cross walk signs in the street. Its no wonder I have raised so much heck about people and their driving that ignore people in the crosswalk or standing on the sidewalk waiting to cross. I been wondering how long it was going to take for someone to get hit in a cross walk, at least I hope the person is ok and the person that couldn't take the time to stop has to go to court and pay a fine and any bills with the 12 year old.

Not for nothing, but Mr. Butler sounds like a smart guy to me. Check out the article the MHN ran on him:

http://www.mountainhomenews.com/story/15...

I look forward to seeing the good things he can accomplish in our county.

LOVE how OM quickly jumps tp "take em to court"....No surpise on that one! Of course K9 is a Cop, of course....You are one crazy broad! And your post about how smart the new G&D Director is, not one of the good ol boys, plays by the rules....How in the world do you know that in the one month he has been there? He has nothing to do with any decision making that goes on as far as rezoning that property...that will be up to the ECC"s and if passed on that level, goes back to P&Z for the CUP process. The G&D director makes no decisions on this! Im not sure what the 3 ECC"S having lunch together has to do with ANYTHING. They work together, I imagine they probably eat together, attend meetings/functions together..Why not? Ramble ramble ramble, whime whine whine!!! Nope, Im not a cop either!

Why untouchable does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know untouchable, if I thought you weren't my friend...I just don't think I could bear it!

Vic,

You were hurt Mentally not Physically, and not no where did I say that they should get a "Free, get out of jail" card sorta speak. And no my message didnt convey that way.

Honestly I believe that if this other person wasnt a Police Officer involved in this MINOR accident, that you wouldnt have posted it on here at all, but since they are a public servent..you felt the need for the whole community to see or try to put blame on this Officer.

"People are people, and adults should conduct themselves as adults, not hiding behind their position, title, or their mommy."

you said it yourself that adults should conduct themselves as adults....so is coming onto the MHN BB blasting this Officer tattle-tailing on what she has done and her actions and whine...............are you vic conducting yourself as and adult? not you are conducting yourself as a child who is throwing a tatrum who cant get their way.

Yep K9...you are right! You are the one going off the deep end on this...hit close to home huh? Vic never said that nobody was hurt but you sure ran with the details or what you now claim to have assumed. Sorry if I do not believe that you are not on the inside. Be careful with details next time and stick to the "I do not know both sides" claim. Have a nice day.

wow OM your are truely psychotic, NO I'am not a cop, and no I'am not on the 'inside'.

Oh and OM you always blast yoB about getting her facts right, well you need to practice what you preach, because in Vic's original post he said that someone (which identified as a police woman of the MHPD) backed into his wife's parked car.

He never said if anyone was inside it, nor if his wife was hurt, therefor! no one didnt get hurt! and if he cant say if his wife was hurt or not on this BB, then he certainly cannot say that "Oh and by the way its was a Policeman form the Mountain Home Police Department".

"In general terms, is it reasonable to expect someone involved in an accident, regardless of the severity, to act responsibly and perform their due diligence in respect to owning up to and mitigating any related circumstances that arise from the accident?"

Vic, I agree...but I believe you should've left the part out of the fact that she was a Police Woman from the MHPD, but you also have to agree with me on one point though and that is every story has 2 sides to it, now she is not on here to share her side of her story, their for I cannot pass judgement...we dont know her side. untill I have heard her side, then I will make a decision...as to if it was cool or uncool.

Someone did get hurt K9! Who in the heck pays the amount the insurance does not cover? Vic/his wife. Who pays the rate increase? Wait K9 last post told the tale...how do you know the details that Vic did not post unless you are on the inside. Nice post.

Good luck Vic.

So...K9...are you a cop?

I would have to believe that Vic would not post something that was less than factual on here since he is an active member of the community and not one of the shadow people. Vic, call the Chief. If he will not help you got to small claims court (unless there is a lot of damage to the car). The papers are easy to fill out and the cost to file and serve is I think under $150.00. It is very easy to do. Good luck.

Not cool Vic...very much not cool. It will be interesting to see if she really has insurance and if not...what will be done. Brings another situation to mind. Good luck and good post. Wow!!!!!

VicVega,

I feel for your frustration, but by posting on here that she is a police woman from the MHPD, you want us to be more "sympathetic" towards you?

Not me! sorry I aint playing that card, You never listed exactly how much damaged occured or if any? or was it a simple fender bender? you see Vic police men and women risk their lives every day to help "Serve & Protect" this town.

So now your coming onto this PUBLIC forum to blast a Police woman because YOU CLAIM that she either doesnt have any insurance or is having a difficult time with her insurance company.

Its nice that you come on here to VENT and to share your story with us, but every story has to be taken with a grain of salt, another words their is two sides to every story, so we dont know quite exactly what her side is so their for I cannot pass judgement.

Just remember Vic maybe just maybe one time when you are in desprite need of help, she may come to the rescue. OH and to your question about cool or not cool.....I would have to say 'Undecided' since we dont know her side of the story, other than what you told US online..which I believe isnt true. sorry.

I was just trying to have a little fun. Calm down and enjoy the 90 degree weather.

OM: Thanks for once again not answering ANY of my questions.

Two strangers were seated next to each other on the plane when the first guy turned to the second and said, "Let's talk. I've heard that flights will go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger."

The second guy, who had just opened his book, closed it slowly, took off his glasses and said to the first guy, "What would you like to discuss?"

"Oh, I don't know," said the first guy. "How about nuclear power?"

"OK," said the second guy. "That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first.

"A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat grass. The same stuff. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?"

"Jeez," said the first guy. "I have no idea."

"Well then," said the second guy, "How is it that you feel qualified to discuss nuclear power when you don't know crap?"

To both dogs...if you do not like what is on the BB...do not read it. As far as doing a blog about this garbage...really not interested. As long as I follow the MHN rules...I will post where I want to. It is not like much of anything has been going on on this BB as of late anyway. And as far as me not doing anything to deal with this situation JD, you are not correct with your statement.

yoB, all that I have said is true and I can back it up with all of the paper/documentation to prove it. Since you have not attended BM's for some time (as you stated) you have NO clue what has been said to the public and the minutes do NOT even begin to explain the present situation. I guess debate does not teach you to support your statements with facts. As far as obtaining documents and telling you where to find things that I am talking about...it is all right under your nose. Do your own research because I do not "hunt" with you or for you. Dig and you will find. Things are not as they seem or as you have been told by your pals. Have a very nice day yoB.

Happy Positive Thursday all.

Some time ago I read a story about a man visiting his friend. The man noted that his friend's dog was just sitting in place and whining monotonously. "I think there's something wrong with your dog," the man said. "Yup, she's sitting on a hedgehog, and she doesn't like it," was the friend's reply. "Well, why doesn't she do something about it?" the man asked. His friend said, "'Cause she'd rather just sit there and whine."

So it goes with some folks as well.

OM and yoB,

Why don't you two would move this WECRD tripe off the front page and on to your own blogs. You say the same things over and over. It has all become so tiring and petty.

once again.... I do not know what happened with the GP Report. All I know, is that if people were so upset with the GP Report why weren't people applying for the board positions to change...?

"NOT if they all think the SAME...as the current 3 do" - My point exactly...! YOU didn't apply for the position... NO ONE did... You cannot blame Mollie for that one. Plain and simple... if you really truely want a recreation center you would have applied.

"Your facts are not really as they would appear".....explain....?

"Get your facts straight yoB or keep your mouth shut" I find this rather funny because you were the one complaining to the city council just last night that there aren't enough beds for the VA when really... there are. You were the one informing people about a 'wound' pool and telling voters the pool is for people with infectionous wounds... you were the one telling people the EARMARKED APPROPRIATIONS money was part of the recent, stimulus package... "American Recovery and Reinvestment" plan (aka the 700b bailout... when it wasn't.

It's very rude of you to tell me to 'keep my mouth shut.' I don't know why you would do such a thing. I have a right to free speech and to post on this BB as long as I am within the guidelines.

"we tried to work with Mollie before we did this but she did not feel she had to listen." You go on and on about how Mollie has all this power and no one is telling Mollie what to do. Don't you think a different director would help keep her in check?

NOT if they all think the SAME...as the current 3 do---NO! Who keeps MBG in check? Really? She does as she wants. Was that a joke along with everything else you wrote? Get your facts straight yoB or keep your mouth shut. You may have done some research but nothing close to what many of us have done. You have just touched the surface and you are about to have egg on your face. Follow up on that GP Report as you said you would. MBG will do the dance for you just like she did for us regarding the matter. Follow the paper trail. While you believe you know the story...you do not. Trust me on this one.

"8-9 years of being taxed for NOTHING" You don't think all projects don't take time to accomplish??

"there is not enough money for her semi-private club to be built" ?????????????????

"we tried to work with Mollie before we did this but she did not feel she had to listen." You go on and on about how Mollie has all this power and no one is telling Mollie what to do. Don't you think a different director would help keep her in check?

My comment to EE was more like... They are showing positive change and positive realization that maybe a couple things need to change. That is POSITIVE! It's good that The WECRD is bringing in the YMCA to really figure out if a pool is what the people want. It seems like all of the 'naysayers' are having an effect afterall. The 'naysayers' (I really don't like that generalization) are actually starting to accomplish something... this is good... for you.

the Feasibility Report... I'm glad they USED it. I think that was great. It told the directors that Mountain Home could not raise enough money for the 10 million dollar/80,000sq.Ft. facility. I think there has been a HUGE scale down! That is again, POSITIVE!

Now, what is needed is to reevaluate exactly what the community wants. Wants have changed since the BRC. Just like the building cost... SURELY has changed. But it costs money to find out the information needed to create a sustainable feasible facility.

"May the best person win." - This has absolutely NOTHING to do with being a better person... This has to do with what we ALL 'want.' A community center. We all 'support' it... right? If we all support it we would all work together to get it. Mollie has a great heart. She is doing what she truely believes the people want. If the YMCA says she is wrong... then so be it.

"That GP Report was withheld prior to the election and that is why Mollie won. Had people been able to review the facts and figures...it would have been a real eye opener for many. Why hide something from the public like that if you are not afraid of the info in the document? Why play with the facts and then tell us how honest you are and how you care what we think and then cut off public comment at meetings? Not very honest in my eyes much less open." --It isn't like you have been the most honest person in town either...........................................I don't know much about the GP Report... or the 'scandal' that occured. But I do know that the opportunity that was being offered during the election came up again not once but TWICE after the election. So... if people are so angry over the GP Report that haven't shown their want for change in the Board Members...................

--Sorry for the novel!

Yeah EE...why so negative? Have those 8-9 years of being taxed for NOTHING got you down? Not that you are retired and on a fixed income or anything probably with some medical issues. Come on! What is another 2-3 years while they figure things out...yet again? No design (but $10,000 has been paid out for designs that will not be used), more money for reports because the ones they have are no good because everything has changed ($13,000 and $21,000 of taxpayer money for NOTHING). Yeah Eagle, why so negative? Oh I forgot...you were at some of the meetings with the WECRD when they refused to listen and now we are EXPECTED to buy that something has changed. Uh huh. Can I sell you a bridge today as well? It is not like the naysayers are a group of 10 people...there was an entire room of us at meeting after meeting.

Here is my take on what is going on. MBG has finally figured out that there is not enough money for her semi-private club to be built with all that she wants in it. So...the Y is now involved to buy some time. 2-4 months to get groups together and a year to obtain info from the community. 2 more reports will be done (sustainability and community needs survey). All with a pretty good price tag to the people of Elmore County but much needed and SHOULD have been done PRIOR to the last design of any building (IMHO only of course). MBG will stall for another 2-3 years and end up building what she wants anyway. The partnership with the Y will never come to be because MBG is a 1 woman show. Nobody tells Mollie what to do. So, we will play the Y card for a while and jump through a few hoops just to do as we like in the end.

Ooops...forgot about the petition. This "plan" will never come to be because the people have realized the scam/sham and will NEVER vote this thing back in again. Oh, and we tried to work with Mollie before we did this but she did not feel she had to listen. May the best person win. That GP Report was withheld prior to the election and that is why Mollie won. Had people been able to review the facts and figures...it would have been a real eye opener for many. Why hide something from the public like that if you are not afraid of the info in the document? Why play with the facts and then tell us how honest you are and how you care what we think and then cut off public comment at meetings? Not very honest in my eyes much less open.

So EE, why are you so upset? Guess you do not want to pay for another 2-3 more years of nothing and useless WECRD Board Meetings. Cannot imagine why?

Sorry for the novel. Some things that need to be said do not fit in a neat little paragraph of 20 words.

EE, why so negative?

The WECRD directors are working with the YMCA to find out what the community wants and what is sustainable...? SO.... If the YMCA says a pool is what the community wants and it is sustainable... you still probably wouldn't be too supportive, correct? Keep in mind that it is my personal opinion that the directors need to take what the YMCA says and actually use it. I am not saying I think without a doubt they will. and that is why it would have been nice to have a different director on board.

Looks like JACKMAN could address me then back off for more excuses seeing he didn't know what he was talking about when it came to meetings, just more idiot words to say your opinion. LOL. Maybe Jack should have been at the council meeting and wouldn't have to deal with what others have to say.

Sorry Jackman...

I arrived to the meeting late and didn't take notes because I came straight from work. I missed a few things and didn't pick up an agenda. I don't feel like I could recap very well. I can tell you in regards to the WECRD, The council explained to Ms. Lauric that they didn't know exactly what she wanted them to write in any letter and that they don't want to write a letter until they have heard what the YMCA says. I think it is a very smart move on the council's part to not write a letter in support or in opposition to the WECRD.

I also think Ms. Ashcraft was on the agenda but I am not sure if she really was or what she would be on there for... Maybe Ms. Lauric will recap the beginning of the meeting for us.

Also....

Ms. Lauric's comment at the city council meeting that the WECRD shouldn't get appropriations money and mentioning that the VA doesn't have money for beds in completely irrelevant because A: The VA does have beds. and B: the money the WECRD is applying for is EARMARKED... that means if it didn't come here the money would still be used for the same reason. IRRELEVANT IRRELEVANT IRRELEVANT Maybe I should be a Lawyer. =P

GREAT NEWS! The VA DOES have beds!

And the letter from Mrs. Knox about the yearbook staff needs a bit of clarification. The yearbook staff did NOT receive a picture of Archer from the photographers and if a student is still a junior your first semester that person's picture is supposed to go in the junior section of the yearbook. If you do not have your picture taken at all, it is your responsibility to get that done as a senior. There are announcements and posters all over at the time the pictures are taken. And if Ms. Knox paid for a picture she never received why hasn't she called earlier this year to say she still has not received the picture?

There is no system in place to make sure each student has had a picture taken because there are so many students coming and going throughout the course of the year to check. Ms. Martin has apologized and taken her own personal time and money to correct this error. Archer WILL be in the yearbook.

EE FYI CANCELLATION OF 27TH MAY MEETING.. DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM ONE DIRECTOR OUT OF AREA, ON BUSINESS IS THAT O.K. WITH YOU, OR DO YOU STILL NEED MORE INFO ?

"For Immediate Release:

Notice: the May 27 regular board meeting is cancelled. The is a special meeting June 2 at 7:00 p.m. to catch up on business.

May 8. 2009"

RE: WECRD Meeting change (from their web page). Thanks Eagle!

May 25,2005- a soldier begins his journey home from Kirkuk, Iraq:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLs6fhywK...

Seven days later, Virgil Case, from Mountain Home, began his journey home on this same ramp. Four days after that, Carrie French, from Caldwell, began hers.

This was our unit.

Many soldiers from Mountain Home witnessed and participated in ten of these ceremonies over the course of our year there. Eight of us from Mountain Home carried Virgil onto the plane on June 1st.

I will never forget.

As a retiree, I am allowed the privilege of wearing my uniform* for Memorial Day services, and I will do so again, this Memorial Day, in their memory, and in their honor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Da...

*AR 670-1, para 30-3f(2)

These are some Crazee Crazee Daze. I'm having a good time. I hope you are as well.

Life is also too short to hold a grudge.

It's Memorial Day weekend!!! Yippie yippie yahoo!!!

I hope you all have a safe one. But please remember to remember that all gave some, but some gave all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJTqpKlZ...

OM,

That shouldnt be a FACT, lol that is what we all know, I know its gross...it kind of reminds me of the pools on base, now that is sick (especially if you see a piece of feces floating on the top).

That is why when I was a teenager my parents bought us a 4ft above-ground pool to swim in, it was great! no fees to get in, you know its clean, and you have no little kids or GROWN ADULTS peeing in the pool!.

MM, I guess the clue ""...Oh, and thank you for your letter stating you cannot be involved in local politics. I will remember that and I have it in writing" was not direct enough for you. It was a perfectly good cite, IMO and one that a first grader probably would have understood. For a person that is told they are too direct all the time I sure missed your boat on this issue it would appear (you cannot have it both ways).

As for my response to you, I do not like you and I will not pretend that I do in an effort to be civil. Life is too short to play games and neither of us is in HS anymore. Have a nice day MM. The letter was sent directly to me by Simpson to clear up any confusion you may still have. You take care now and brush up on those painting skills.

Come on Wingers! I missed the comments made by them but I hope they will be here soon. Thanks Wingers for investing in MH and the people of MH.

So, why were the comments removed? I am sure Brenda, our guardian BB angel, had a good reason...but what was it? Just wondering.

I just got in from a great day on my horse out in the middle of NOTHING with no cell phone, etc.! It was a great Thursday indeed. What wonderful, smart animals horses are and what a pleasure (honor really) to get to share time with them and good friends. Have a great weekend everyone! Must get to work.

Seems that Winger's comments were removed from under the Mayors picture. What's up with that?

Anyway, they thanked us for our support and said that they are currently working with the P&Z and city council, and that it is looking hopeful.

Article from the Statesman on a MHAFB officer:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

Being that it's May and no decision was made, chances of BHO reversing the playing field isn't likely to happen very soon. Big policy plays take political capital. You usually see them in the first three months, possibly within the first year for more difficult issues, and then in the last year of the term. But during the last year and a half to two years of the term they are working on re-election more than anything else and any policy changes will be to bolster their position.

"...Oh, and thank you for your letter stating you cannot be involved in local politics. I will remember that and I have it in writing. Good day."

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 20, 2009, at 11:20 AM

I did MM, which was the reason for this direct statement from his letter 3 months later. Thank you for the idea...wish I had thought of that.

I sure miss Little Ceasers, Dairy Queen (I've heard horror stories why it closed) and for those who have been here awhile....when I say AWHILE I mean awhile.....remember Artic Circle?.

Last I checked there were about 14,000 (plus) people to support places to eat. Some of us employed...some of us not.

Mountain Home has several restaraunts that are good. I love Smokey Mountain Pizza and Pasta, Golden Crown, and the new Carlos. I would love to see a good barbeque place open up here though. Famous Dave's is quite a drive. A seafood place would be nice too. I agree with most of you on Aj's though. I went once and that was enough.

workingbee,

Any ways I'am done arguing with you, but I will leave you with this statement from hawaii(official rep for zapatag.com):

"everything online must be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone should be skeptical of one-sided reports. And, of course, you can choose to shun the site altogether. If you're at peace with the world and think the best of mankind, consider yourself lucky and steer clear!

Honestly, posting a report on Zapatag.com doesn't accomplish much of anything beyond a little theraputic venting. With mass adoption you could imagine things like community pressure to improve behavior (or insurance companies sending helpful postcards to clients)... but for now, it's a spot for a primal scream or two (and hopefully more than a few chuckles).

Thanks for the feedback, though. I do hope Zapatag.com skews more interesting and fun than rageful and angry. But we shall see."

hey workingbee,

I found you on zapatag you said:

"cidaho" Road Rage on I-84 7:30am May 14 ~ I was passing a semi when this Dark Green GMC Envoy passed on the right and cut me off only to slow down. My cruise was set for 78. This Male late 50's collar length gray & dark hair with a full beard, then slows down in the right lane in front of the truck... the next truck I pass he runs up my bumper, I pass the truck and he passes me then slams on his brakes in front of me...... my husband snapped a photo of his license plate and called 911.. finally started to behave when he saw the cop.......

you cant say that was you who posted it, because if you search the MHN BB Archive...their was a message said by you on:

Thursday, May 14th

So mhg4316, this jerk endangered my life and others already by slamming on his brakes on

the interstate after pulling in front of me and others....

After 30+ years I am fully capable of knowing a dangerous driver. What magic quality makes a police officer identify a dangerous driver.

I have driven that road for over 10 years, 5 times a week for nine of them. This guy took the cake.

Licence plate was 9AFJS, is that yours, is that why you are 1,000 percent with untouchable........

It's about time there is a spot where folks that are victims of dangerous drivers have a place where they can post and WARN others...... so when it is your turn to be near this guy as he heads up to Boise for what ever reason at 7:45 AM you stay safe..........

-- Posted by workingbee on Thu, May 14, 2009, at 11:35 PM

then you said:

then slows down in the right lane in front of the truck? what is wrong with that? tell me?

then you say:

"I pass the truck and he passes me then slams on his brakes in front of me" did it ever occur to you that maybe he realized he was going faster than he normally travels, and or wasnt going the legal speed limit, TAPPED his brakes to reduce his speed?

you and your husband really stretched this one out, bravo (golfers clap). just because he tapped his brakes your husband took a picture of his license plate?

you never said he flipped you guys off nor was yelling at you guys, therefore I belive he didnt have any road rage at all, he didnt persue you later on I-84 and caused another incident did he? NO!

Oh and you guys can go ahead and TRY to sue me, you will lucky to get even a couple of hundred bucks. What names did I call people on here? tell me workingbee? I never gave out any full description of anybody, nor did I threaten anybody did I? No

oh and one last thing, this guy if he was to see all his information on that site, he can actually legally come back and sue you for defamation of character, and emotional distress. just a little warning. Because you gave out pretty good description on what he looked liked, plus what type of car, plus his license plate number.

the_untouchable2k9

So if you get arrested are you going to sue the MHN for posting your name in paper?

www.zapatag.com is nothing more than another media outlet for information, i.e A Banter Box. So exactly what grounds would you sue them on....you don't like your plate on the site?

You call people names on the MHN Banter Box so maybe you should be sued.

Let me break it down for you........ I did it, I feel better, I'd do it again......

This was posted by CitizenJ on Tim's blog and I thought that I would pass it on.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/04/p...

This is information on the TMI nuclear accident 30 years later. It also gives info regarding what went on prior to the TMI melt down. Clearly the AEHI DVD (which I did watch and found to be less than fact based) was a bit misleading. Please view this information. The people of TMI are not healthy and cancer free. Do we really want this for Elmore County and OUR future generations?

Today is the day

NOTICE OF ELECTION

MOUNTAIN HOME SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 193

Trustee Zone 4

The polls at said elections shall be open between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. Each polling site will have zone maps with boundaries. An elector may contact the District Administration Office or the Clerk of the Board of Trustees for trustee zone boundary verification.

Hope everyone has a great day and is able to make it to vote

William Murray

the_untouchable2k9

I keep it in mind........ thought about it and wonder...... if you saw your LPN on www.zapatag.com is that what you would do, is come after them? Just checking in case I post your plate.....

Oops

Ahhhhhh...let the games begin yet again.

Thanks for the clarification on EE, Opinion Missy...Peter

OM,

Thanks...... Kids are great.... I have 4 new additions to the family... 4 new kittens born on Friday...... they are beautiful.

Thanks again..............

Sorry mhg4316 it was the_untouchable2k9 with the freakin middle school........

You two share the same mentality, I got the two posts mixed together..........

Hi Beau,

Thank you for the kind reply...

RE: However, you singling out EE is uncalled for. EE, (like you) is a friend that I have never met.

Please note I never mentioned EE until she singled me out telling me to stick to TF and stop shoving my nuclear opinions into the Banter Box. I politely explained why I feel it is important to post new items like Gillispie's conspiracy theory in the Banter Box. After I received another put-down slam from her, repeating questions I had already answered, what is wrong with defending myself? I did not single her out to be mean.

I took your post in a positive way. Sorry if I offended you, but still seems the Banteer Box is less isolated to place updates from the whacky world of AEHI. Peace...Peter

mhg4316

No I don't see you point...... nor do I care if you have one.... this guy was a danger, whether I am a cop or not, I can tell a dangerous driver, the first hint was him passing me and slamming on his brakes in front of me on the interstate because I didn't pass a semi fast enough for him.

I don't care to know who he is, as a matter of fact I prefer not to know. I will take the risk of him coming after me for posting his plate, If it does one of two things....... MAKES HIM REALIZE THE DANGER HE WAS OR IT SAVES SOMEONES LIFE.

I like how you state, "freakin middle school" right after you call me an idiot....gives everyone a prime example of your character. WANT TO COME AFTER ME NOW...........

NOTICE OF ELECTION

MOUNTAIN HOME SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 193

Trustee Zone 4

The polls at said elections shall be open between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. Each polling site will have zone maps with boundaries. An elector may contact the District Administration Office or the Clerk of the Board of Trustees for trustee zone boundary verification.

Incase you are not sure what zone you live in, here are a couple of maps that may help you out.

Zone outline of all the zones

http://www.mtnhomesd.org/board/zones/zon...

Closer view of Zone 4

http://www.mtnhomesd.org/board/zones/zon...

Hope to see everyone who is eligible to vote, VOTES

William Murray

Oh OM, you name caller you....You are delusional calling me out for that....get a grip! If I had lots of time on my hands I could go back and post the many many many times you have called bloggers idiots on here, I believe EE has already done it once....Im sure you know ALL about how diffcult the DMV is to get personal info, I bet you have tried many times! I do not drive like a jerk, but, like untouchable stated before but you obvioulsy didnt bother to read, posting LPN's are not going to do any good unless you are driving around specifically looking for that one plate number...you could post them for slow driving, over cautious drivers, old folks, ANYTHING that irritated one person or another. Its pointless, and an invasion of privacy and could end up getting someone threatened or killed by some crazy person who was irritated by someones driving! I imagine you have been threatened by your very active voice and opinions in your community because you made someone mad, and you DO NOT deserve that...no one does! That is the point of it all.

I agree with EE & Old guy. Peter, get a room. ( MHN BLOG)

Doc Pete, I believe that most of us are following your back & forth with NCSU NE student. It was been very informative. You are correct. It has also been very civil. We know where it is. So why not keep this topic there? Or as EE has suggested, why not start your own MHN Blog?

BTW; they can speak for themselves, I believe both EE and Old guy are anti AEHI.

Hi Eagle_Eye,

RE: Your new claim, "I didn't address your right to comment on this site, I commented on your novels to make your point."

Well, actually you did try to say I should stick to Twin Falls. It is hard to read the following quote from you and believe you now, ie, "Why can't you do your own blog site and post whatever you want and let others comment there? You are right about one thing this site is in Elmore County and you live in Twin Falls so why do you have to keep jamming down our throats of your opinion."

And you just did the old "outside agitator" ploy again, now lecturing me on sticking to TF, ie, "there is alot more hazzards going on right in your area of the snake river that you seem to be over looking."

So enjoy your denial, and please do educate me on what I should be doing in the Magic Valley! If you say nitrates in the water from CAFO's, or plutonium buried waste, or coal plants, then I beat you to it. Been there, still doing that...Peter

RE: "Just goes to show your true colors, even when some one else has an opinion different from yours

It also really shouldn't be that hard to understand my point, but I'll type slower this time

:-) ...Peter"

_________________________________

Well, Eagle_Eye, come on, that's funny! Please note pro-nuke NCSU NE student and I have had a great informative civil discussion on twilcox's blog, even though our opinions differ. I was not attacking you for your opinion or lack of one on nuclear power. I was defending my right to blog in Mt Home, from your original attack claiming I had no right to post here, like you own the Banter Box or something.

So yes indeed I teased you for REPEATING the "outside agitator" style attack after I gave a reasonable explanation to your question. Humor and laughter is good for your health, so lighten up. But of course I respect your right to be spiteful and show YOUR true colors...

:-) ...Peter

You posted a new point Eagle_Eye, while I was typing the last response, ie, "the rezone of that land for any kind of plants is not in my hands, the rezone meeting have been had by planning and zoning and now it all up to the ECC's."

Well, I respectfully disagree. When we defeated the local coal plant invasion in the Magic Valley, it was because people were not apathetic like you. We burned the politicians ears until they wanted to be on the correct side of the issue with the people. You and all Elmore citizens have more power than you think. When the ECC's tell you not to talk to them about the nuke plant, that really doesn't and shouldn't stop you from talking to them! You have the right to protect your children and speak up. Article One, Section Two of the Idaho Constitution says...

CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO

ARTICLE I DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

Section 2.Political power inherent in the people. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their equal protection and benefit, and they have the right to alter, reform or abolish the same whenever they may deem it necessary; and no special privileges or immunities shall ever be granted that may not be altered, revoked, or repealed by the legislature.

NOW IS THE TIME To protect Elmore and Twin Falls County. Respectfully...Peter

By the way Dr Richards

The decision about the rezone of that land for any kind of plants is not in my hands, the rezone meeting have been had by planning and zoning and now it all up to the ECC's to see if it is rezoned and anything can go forward down there.

Hi Eagle_Eye,

RE: "Why can't you do your own blog site and post whatever you want and let others comment there? You are right about one thing this site is in Elmore County and you live in Twin Falls so why do you have to keep jamming down our throats of your opinion."

I again respect your right to your resentment and repeating of questions I have already answered. I do have my own website at www.MyIdahoEnergy.com Perhaps a shorter repeat of my answer will be easier to understand...Peter

"But the Banter Box is the public message board for Elmore County, and you all are making a decision on this nuclear plant that will effect my family, and all children downwind of your decision."

And: "With all due respect, I AM IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. You don't have to be neighborly though."

workingbee,

I guess you FAIL to see my point I was trying to come across, the point was by all means if someone is driving like a maniac...go head and call the cops report them that way they dont hurt you nor other people. Let the COPS do something about it!.

BUT! do you really think honestly that by posting someone's License plate number on a stupid website is going to do much justice? NO!, its like freakin middle school...this is what this website is it's the "tattle-tail" club website where people have nothing better to do then post someones L.P.N. because they didnt like the way they were driving.

I was in Boise today going the speed limit on a Residential street (limit was 30mph) I was going the speed limit and this person was riding my @$$ like no other. It wouldnt surprise me if my license plate number showed up on this site, just because they didnt like my driving.

Do you see my point now?

And the "Hoedown" by the Flecktones shall be the victory dance of the "uneducated, factless" thoughts of those against AEHI's plan when AEHI is sent packing. Great music! Thank you.

"Hoedown" location to be announced at a later date.

Bee, you are an idiot.....It wasnt me who irritated you on the road, but, I hope you can find out who this person is and take them out!!! Go get em! And what "magic quality" makes a police officerable to identify a dangerous driver? What magic quality makes you one? I can assume in the police training the officers receive there is probably a course on that exact topic....What magic quality makes a surgeon an expert in surgery????? Idiot!

It sure would be nice if the Dr Richards would take all of his anti nuke stuff someplace else instead of this site, I am tried of him pointing out all the reasons he so anti nuke with his novels here.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, May 17, 2009, at 1:14 AM

Eagle_eye I couldnt have said it better!

Some incredible music on this beautiful Saturday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g35VEfTZ6...

an amazing performance.

Lady Tigers are State Softball champs! Nikayla Skinner et al are absolutely wonderful!!! My clock says 5:08 pm and the game just ended on the radio.

Yes, too bad that we were ALL told prior to the rezone hearing with the ECC's to stay on topic or the testimony would be/could be excluded. The issue was NOT if cows can live near a nuclear plant or not. The issue was if a nuclear plant should be built in a largely Ag area contrary to the EC Comp. Plan which states that M2 industry is ONLY allowed on Simco Road (to be more clear...should prime Ag. land be rezoned to M2 contrary to the rules and regulations in place?). That was the issue as opposed to your off the wall take on things. People who live in that area are zoned Ag. NOT M1/M2 and they deserve to have their quality of life protected just as much as you. As far as "antis" not wanting to talk about that...it is because we were STRONGLY told not to and when 2 people did try to do just that---they were told to sit down and that they were done. Funny how you forgot that part. I fail to see how a nuke plant in the middle of 50-75 farms/homes fits in with a rural landscape and quality of life for those who pay to live there. There are more cows than people in this town but that does not mean I take one to WalMart with me to shop (with your reasoning it should/would fit right in because of the area we live in).

JACKMAN, I said I would not post on the WECRD and I really try not to most of the time but last I checked I was not booted from the site by the MHN and can post anywhere that I want. Have a very nice night and enjoy your reading. Who knows, maybe you will even learn something!

reagarding "The issue to be discussed was to be strictly the rezone not the fact that cows can or cannot live at a nuclear power plant" it is real relevant to mention the cows and ag fields that suround nuke plants. People were saying the rezone would destroy the rural feel of the area. Aehi was show that the kind of use that would go in the rezoned land was compatable with rural areas. But antis there didnt want to talk about that.

Recently, a woman in Virginia was shocked to discover black balloons and antiabortion literature on her doorstep days after she had visited a health clinic that performs abortions. Apparently, someone used her license plate number to track down personal information which was used to stalk her.

In California, a 31-year-old man copied down the license plate numbers of five women in their early twenties, obtained their home address from the DMV and then sent them threatening letters at home.

You are correct workingbee, but I guess the point I'am trying to make is that this site that lets you post peoples License plate numbers on this site and than "Rant" and them WHO knows if one of these people are not mentally stable and then then go in and obtain information about you and then kill you?

Also their is something called "Social Engineering" to obtain information as well. But hey if you think this is a good site, by all means going ahead and join these 'goons'. But I will say this though, if one of these psychos was to hurt any of my family members, because of they way they didnt like them driving, I will take down all those who are responsible!.

workingbee,

If I was to see my license plate number on that site, lets say because I was doing the speed limit and some jerk was to tailgate me, even though he had room to pass without any oncoming cars, and he got his panties in a bunch and got all mad and then blasted me on this site with my license plate number.

Not only will I sue him, I would sue that owner of that site! that site needs to be taken down, their is something called the "Drivers Privacy Protection Act (DPPA)of 1994 which is still in law today.

From Wikipedia online dictionary:

"An INNUENDO is, according to the Advanced Oxford Learner's Dictionary (7th Edition; electronic version) an indirect remark about somebody or something, usually suggesting something bad or rude; the use of remarks like this: "innuendoes about her private life" or "The song is full of sexual innuendo."

"Idiot is a word derived from the Greek ἰδιώτης, idiōtēs ("person lacking professional skill," "a private citizen," "individual"), from ἴδιος, idios ("private," "one's own").[1] In Latin the word idiota ("ordinary person, layman") preceded the Late Latin meaning "UNEDUCATED OR IGNORANT PERSON."[2] Its modern meaning and form dates back to Middle English around the year 1300, from the Old French idiote ("UNEDUCATED OR IGNORANT PERSON").

I am POSITIVELY HAPPY to provide the definitions for all to enjoy. Since it IS positive thursday.

Ms. Smith...because it was stated by the WECRD Board to be a "press release" as opposed to an article with basic comments by the paper. That is why. Have a nice day...hope you do not have the swine flu. You take care now.

Jessie Miller,

I just want to say that I really enjoy your photograph submissions. You are an outstanding photog. Do you have your own gallery. If not, you should open one IMHO.

Thank you for sharing.

Hi contactmountainman,

RE: "He should leave nuclear energy issues to the nuclear experts."

Well, I quote the experts' deadly details from the documents they never mention in public at their shiny smiling "public information meetings." You can find details at www.MyIdahoEnergy.com I quote the experts, you decide!

I have had an open challenge to debate the INL experts anytime, any where, since 1988. They tried once, but had to admit I was quoting their documents accurately, and in context. Now the INL even backs out of conservative pro-nuke radio shows if they find out I will be participating.

According to your "logic," since average citizens are not experts in taxes or foreign policy, no one should vote or voice an opinion in politics on any issue. Good thinking! :-)

RE: Why do I use this forum to condem nuclear power?

Is it really that hard to understand? Elmore County is ground zero for the decision to build an ridiculous risk of a nuclear power plant that my family is directly downwind of. You and your Commissioners are making an incredibly important decision, and here in America, it is my duty to honor those who have died for our right to freely discuss the issues that effect us all. I am on a mission to protect my kids, and all innocent children downwind of potential nuclear disasters. Over the past 20 years I have helped to stop the clustering of all nuclear weapons in Idaho and helped stop the plutonium incinerator, both projects that our politicians volunteered us for. There's much more, like helping stop the 2006 renewal of bomb testing at Nevada Test Site, which always waits for the wind to blow toward Idaho before detonation. Here is an example of my efforts to at least archive the remaining UNUSED atomic testing fallout data that hit Idaho families hard, hidden at INL and the Defense Department, from the SLC Deseret Morning News at http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,63...

Yah, how dare I tell the feds and Nevada what to do? This was my Christmas present for God in 2005. Trying to protect the gifts he gave us does not seem as bad a thing as you seem to snear at. Time will tell...Peter

deseretnews.com

Utah

Sunday, December 25, 2005

Preserving fallout data called vital for research

By Joe Bauman

Deseret Morning News

Peter Rickards is thrilled about Congress' passing a measure that requires preservation of military records on fallout from nuclear testing. He says he knows what might happen to the records if the government is not forced to keep them.

The provision, sponsored in the House of Representatives by Rep. Jim Matheson, D-Utah, became part of the Defense Department Appropriations Bill that has passed both chambers. Final action came Thursday.

In the 1990s and early 2000s, Rickards experienced the destruction of valuable fallout records while he served on a citizens advisory committee for a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study seeking to reconstruct radiation doses from nuclear material that had leaked from the Idaho National Laboratory.

"We had hundreds of boxes of documents earmarked for archiving that were destroyed right at the moment . . . right during their study," he said. "The DOE (U.S. Department of Energy) took boxes that were earmarked for archiving by the CDC and destroyed them."

Rickards, a podiatrist in Twin Falls, Idaho, has closely followed the fallout debate. He believes it's important to save whatever records still remain.

Although the National Laboratory, based in southwestern Idaho, did not produce atomic blast fallout, the Department of Energy facility did leak radiation. And fallout from nuclear weapons testing during the 1950s and '60s contributed to the overall radiation exposure in the region.

Winds blowing from the Nevada Test Site did not always deposit the radioactive dust near the NTS. A 1997 study by the National Cancer Institute says Montana and Idaho were slammed by fallout worse than other parts of the country, even harder hit than southwestern Utah, which is close to the NTS. Four of the five counties with most fallout are in Idaho and the fifth is in Montana, according to the institute.

Sorting out the history of radiation exposure is difficult, with researchers relying on scanty data. That's why Rickards and others feel it is imperative to preserve whatever information is available.

"The government does regularly dispose of older documents," he said, "and in this case they have a vested interest in destroying all of the great fallout data." That was data, he hastened to add, "which the CDC refused to use" in its study.

During many of the nuclear tests, according to Rickards, Defense Department aircraft tracked the plumes of atomic debris. They recorded where plumes went, levels of fallout, and where rain fell, he said.

Rain sometimes caused radioactive dust to fall from the plume.

Concerned about possible destruction of records, the National Academy of Sciences addressed the issue in a 2003 report reviewing a draft study by the CDC and the National Cancer Institute.

The report, "Exposure of the American Population to Radioactive Fallout from Nuclear Weapons Tests: A Review of the CDC-NCI Draft Report on a Feasibility Study of the Health Consequences to the American Population from Nuclear Weapons Tests Conducted by the United States and Other Nations." It is available on the Internet at books.nap.edu/books/0309087139/html.

The committee of the National Academy that reviewed the draft report recommended that Congress take action to protect the records.

"Data searches and cataloging will not be possible if the underlying records and related material are destroyed," the academy noted. "Recognizing that, DOE (Department of Energy) has placed a moratorium on the destruction of possibly relevant records.

"At present, there is no such moratorium on the destruction of DOD (Department of Defense) fallout-related records."

The academy recommended that the CDC "urge Congress to prohibit the destruction of relevant records held by federal agencies and the permit appropriate access to them."

Rickards said the destruction of DOE records was only for the duration of the Centers of Disease Control studies, "and needs to be made permanent." SNIP

Ms. Lauric, Why did you put quotations around Press Release? It makes no sense. Maybe I will start using quotations when it comes to the disolution "petition."

Good article by Mtn Home News on the"press Release" for the WECRD. The two guys mentioned will make things start to hop, Let's go Mountain Homies, get this up & running.

To Opinion Missy:

You want to know about the WECRD press release,

GO BUY THE NEWSPAPER, I was totally thrilled!!!!

So, where is this "Press Release" from the WECRD?

Hi all,

Had to toss this into the Banter Box from England's continual impoundment of farms and sheep decades after Chernobyl. They were only a thousand or so miles away. Elmore will be ground zero for Donnie G's tax write-off. For those who haven't been following the detailed blogs, yes, I know Chernobyl did not have containment like US reactors, but I have posted the DOE admissions of their containment failure scenarios that can lead to "catastrophic failure." When the containment fails, yah, it's evacuation and impoundment time, just like Chernobyl...Peter Found at http://u.tv/articles/ArticlePrint.aspx?c...

Britain's farmers still restricted by Chernobyl nuclear fallout

Environmentalists say controls on 369 farms highlight danger of plans to build nuclear plants around UK

Tuesday, 12 May 2009

Nearly 370 farms in Britain are still restricted in the way they use land and rear sheep because of radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl nuclear power station accident 23 years ago, the government has admitted.

Environmentalists have seized on the figures as proof of the enormous dangers posed by nuclear power as the UK moves towards building a new generation of plants around the country.

Dawn Primarolo, minister for health, revealed 369 farms and 190,000 sheep were affected, but pointed out this was a tiny number compared with the immediate impact of radioactive fallout from Ukraine.

"This represents a reduction of over 95% since 1986, when approximately 9,700 farms and 4,225,000 sheep were under restriction across the United Kingdom. All restrictions in Northern Ireland were lifted in 2000," she added.

Critics of the nuclear industry expressed alarm at the latest numbers, which they believed would increase public unease about the highly toxic and long-term impact of radioactivity.

David Lowry, a member of Nuclear Waste Advisory Associates, said the figures demonstrated the "unforgiving hazards" of radioactivity dispersed into the environment, whether from Chernobyl in Ukraine, thousands of miles away and 23 years ago, or over decades from the Faslane nuclear submarine base in Scotland, as revealed by the Guardian last month.

"Ministers like to describe nuclear power as 'clean and green', as they press for up to 11 new reactors to be built across England and Wales. But these latest figures on Chernobyl fallout gives the lie to these claims.

"Any breach of containment accident at Sellafield's high activity liquid radioactive waste storage tanks would release many times the radioactivity released in the Chernobyl accident. And these tanks had an under-reported loss of coolant a month ago, so we have been warned," he added. SNIP

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stori...

Nevertheless,

Congrats to all the teams. You represent Mountain Home proudly, and your accomplishments are well deserved.

Congratulations to the Mtn. Home baseball, softball and boys/girls track teams for being crowned District Champions on Friday. You guys/gals are truly amazing athletes and I am very proud of all of you. I hope that each of these teams also bring home State Champions trophies as well. Best of luck to each of you as you head to state this week.

Sorry YoB for not recognizing the things that you participate in. If you are so proud of "your" chosen extra curiccular activities you can toot your own horn. I was mearly congratulating the teams that I knew about.

Mtn. Home has had a terrific year with this bunch of athletes and they deserve the recognition. Great job Mtn. Home and bring home those 1st ever state banners!!

"Yes, "tsk-tsk" indeed. What a shame to have to share the earth with such simple minded people MM. You poor thing you. How do you survive?"

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, May 8, 2009, at 10:44 PM

How do I survive? Hmmm, that's a good question OM, a REAL good one! Well, let's see...For starters, I try not to insult everyone that disagrees with me, it's so silly (personal attacks are so playground!). Second, if someone does disagree with me, I try to find a common ground for communication, it's SOOOO much more copasetic to the groove; know what I mean sista? (Translation: I don't go off lock, stock, and barrel right off the bat) Third, if I find myself in a situation where someone just absolutely refuses to see any light except the beacon they are shining, well, I just try to lay off for awhile and see what happens. And if said person continues to indulge in their own one-sidedness and continues to affront others for merely stating what they believe, well, I just kinda throw an opinion or two in there.

Sounds kinda simple, I know. But, you'd be amazed at the outcome that could result from true, un-confrontational dialogue.

However, I am speaking for us simple minded folk: So, you wouldn't understand.

Have a nice night!

Pooh, I am not 'blasting people.' I am stating my opinion and that's it. You all feel you are stating your opinions right? I am just saying mine. I am not representing the debate team when I post, I represent myself. Mr. Petti would not be suprised to know I spend time on this website stating my opinion on town issues. But if you think he would be upset, e-mail him. What I do in my free time is MY free time. I do not post on here in debate. Debate is at the junior high and I don't use the junior high computers.

"Not only do they think they are smarter and have a wiser opinion than all adults, it drives them crazy when they can't suck you into there High School game. Eventually they go away and find someone else to try and champion over."

I absolutely postively do not believe I am smarter than you or that I have a 'wiser' opinion. I have a deep knowledge about what I do and I state my opinions strongly. I always have. I may be wrong sometimes but they are still my opinions. I feel that because of my age, I have to prove to some people that I am knowledgeable about more things than they think. I am truely not trying to be supperior to any of you.

Amused, Lmao, you hit the nail square on the head

Yes, "tsk-tsk" indeed. What a shame to have to share the earth with such simple minded people MM. You poor thing you. How do you survive?

Pretty lame answers about the top dogs photo op with a 747

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_o...

No, I am not a 'flamer.' I do not believe I am supperior and I do not believe mine is the only valid opinion. I simply have a strong opinion and I state it. I did not personally attack anyone. Maybe it was just steam, I can admit that. I do not believe my posts were angry or insulting.

oh and i didn't say all athletes weren't smart. Athletics sometimes helps students in academics because it makes them competitive. I did say a lot of the athletes aren't so bright. Some are book smart yes, but a lot aren't.... knowledgeable about the world around them. A lot do not read the newspapers, a lot don't watch the news.

Also, athletics being unimportant to the real world doesn't mean I do not think they shouldn't be athletes. They just don't need all of the recognition they receive. It also does not mean we do not need a recreation center. Not everyone who swims or works out or who is athletic is an 'athlete.' It has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying.

yoB,

What is wrong with someone making a comment about how well overall MOUNTAIN HOME SCHOOLS ARE DOING! she didnt focus all her attention to the baseball and softball teams, she praised not only them but Hacker Middle School for the aluminum cans, and Richard Mckinna for helping cleaning up Air Base Road.

But you Debate people just focus on one thing and one thing only, you guys dont see the whole picture...its almost like you are looking through a straw...you dont see the whole spectrum.

Forgive us all yoB but for we are not in school anymore, we dont know ALL that goes on!

LET IT GO! move on, holy moly kid, you got alot to learn...best advice is........let it go!

Thanks Mrmister. I don't mind if people don't agree with me. I have my opinion and I will state it.

I know people won't get recognition for everything they do, but if we are going to praise the softball and baseball teams and suggest that doing well in districts is rare then we should do that for all of the teams!

Yes, Mrs. Martin still teaches newspaper. This is her last year, next year we have Ms. Starkey. Martin will still be teaching yearbook and photography though. I am not suggesting that everyone needs to be recognized for everythin

Sports and athletics does nothing to help you prepare for the future huh yoB? Well I guess we really don't need that rec center then, do we.

Seriously, I respectfully disagree. Not everyone was born perfect and some people have to engage in athletics to round out their lives. While I find some sports like football and boxing barbaric, overall people who engage in sports and athletics learn about the importance of teamwork and good health. The benefits of the habits associated with these qualities can be applied to all kinds of work situations. Athletes and team players make some of the best co-workers. They are healthy, alert and flexible to work with. They are goal oriented and like to get things done.

My oh my,

So much for feeling you have the right to free expression here!

yoB,

Personally, I think your post made sense. No one was personally attacked (although you did mention a specific blogger), and you stated your opinion.

Did anyone notice that the sign at the old Bingo Hall on Airbase was recently updated. It states that a dance club for 18 yr olds and over will open soon. I like the idea because it will give them something to do and a place to socialize. Yes, I can forsee some issues that might arise but since this is POSITIVE Thursday, I won't go there.

It's ok Eagle_eye,

To yoB, we are adults, so we dont know what all goes on at the school as far as "Academics" and or "Athlete's" so you need to cool your jets turbo!.

And when she said "take home our first ever state banner" I believe she MIGHT HAVE been referring to is for the baseball and softball teams bringing home the first ever state banner.

I could be wrong, its been about 9 years since I been at the high school, So I'am not sure if the softball or baseball teams have ever brought home the state banner or not.

Since you (yoB) is active in the debate team and whatever you are involved in, doesnt mean you should pounce (ha! get it pounce, like a tiger!...i know it was corney)on someone's comment for giving the athlete's props.

Just because you guys didnt get a banner for being 1st for the state paper, doesnt mean you should show your poor judgement when others exceed.

P.S. If it makes you feel better..........Good job for taking 1st on the school paper.

High school mom: "Both the Mountain Home High School Varisty Baseball & Softball teams have qualified for state. Both teams play Friday night for District Champions - Boys baseball @ 7:00 pm at Rodeo Park in Nampa and Girls softball @ 5:30 at Emmett High School.

GREAT job to all of these athletes. Mountain Home has never been so represented at the state level before and you should all be VERY proud.

Good Luck Tigers & Kick some butt at State. Bring home Mountain Home's first EVER state banner!"

Actually, other athletics and academics have represented well at state this year. The school paper took first at state, we didn't get a banner... but we got 1st non the less. The football team got 3rd in state. Boys and Girls both went to the state play offs. I have a whole list of "state qualifiers."

We also have a few district champions on the speech team as well as a few speech and debate qualifiers. We need to recognize all of this. Yes, the baseball and softball teams are doing good but to say they are representing us the best is not an opinion I agree with.

Our school has done really well in many events and they all need to be recognized. If you happen to get the Tiger Tribune, in the issue coming out next week there will be a list of athletics/clubs that went to state this year.

I am truly worried about next year. We're losing so many good seniors. But I have enough confidence that the class of 2010 will push harder.

Both the Mountain Home High School Varisty Baseball & Softball teams have qualified for state. Both teams play Friday night for District Champions - Boys baseball @ 7:00 pm at Rodeo Park in Nampa and Girls softball @ 5:30 at Emmett High School.

GREAT job to all of these athletes. Mountain Home has never been so represented at the state level before and you should all be VERY proud.

Good Luck Tigers & Kick some butt at State. Bring home Mountain Home's first EVER state banner!

Hacker Middle School has collected 653 lbs. of aluminum for the Ronald McDonald House Fund Raiser. That means 26 nights that they helped pay for. That is awesome! I want to say how proud I am of them!

Jessie

I went to the hearing yesterday evening as well -- good job, everyone. Good experience.

On another issue, seems there are rental units that aren't kept in good repair, to the detriment of renters. I'm in a rush right now, but I will come back when I can later with appropriate phone numbers for residents in unsafe or unhealthy rental units to call to report the incidents.

In case anyone was wondering...the ECC's passed the new zoning ordinances last night and included many of the changes requested by the public. See, good things do come from people who complain...and raise heck. The changes asked for were for the benefit of everyone in the community. Great job to Bonnie Sharp (now retired) and her staff as well as the ECC's and the P & Z Board. On a side note, the new P & Z guy seems really smart. I hope he will stay with us for a while. Good job everyone!! Now, on to other things.

IDCOUG, I should read my comments before I post them but anyway, it would help me if you will kinda give me somewhat the area zone 4 is in then I can go from there, doesn't say much if I not in that zone and can't vote on it anyway

Eagle_Eye,

If my memory serves me right I do believe we have met. I believe I met you and Senior Lady shortly after the bond failed at Moxie Java. If not I do apologize for getting you confused with someone else on this board. As far as the zones go, it only took me 2 maps and an old telephone book to figure out the exact outline of my zone.

Here is a link to all the maps for the school district

http://www.mtnhomesd.org/zones.htm

You are correct Zone 2 and 4 are both up for election. I'm not sure if anyone else announced there candidacy for Zone 2 or not. At the last school board meeting there wasn't anyone running against Mrs. House. I do know there is another person running against me.

As far as what I want to change, make better etc. I want the community to trust and believe in who they have representing them. I want to have representatives who still have children in the school district. I want people who are new and fresh to the system.

I don't have a set agenda, I can't tell you that I'm going to make Mountain Home School District the best district in Idaho by the 1st day of the next school year. I can tell you I will do everything in my power to make it happen someday. I want a school district where we have families from other districts come to our district and say, "Why can't our schools, building, teachers etc. be like Mountain Homes"

should have read I don't know where Wells Fargo is going to end up with this mess

Interesting Article from CRAIGMONT,Idaho Apr 30, 2009 (The Lewiston Morning Tribune - McClatchy-Tribune Information Services via COMTEX)can be found at:

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news...

Contains the quote: "The only other closure the bank is undertaking right now in Idaho, is in Mountain Home where a lease isn't being renewed. Wells Fargo owns its office in Craigmont."

Anyone hear anything about Wells Fargo in Mountain Home closing? Hmmm?

S.C.Driver

About 3 years ago, my child started going to school in the Mountain Home School District. Shortly after that my child started bringing paperwork home which seemed daily, but was probably closer to monthly for fundraisers at the school. Don't get me wrong I don't see a problem with the occasional fundraiser but I did not need my child learning the art of selling at such a early age. So I went to my 1st PTT meeting. I went there with the intent to find out why there were so many fundraisers going on. I was told the school did not have any money for playground equipment and it was up to the parents to replace the previous equipment that had been condemned and removed. I asked a few more questions and was told those were school district issues well beyond the control of the PTT. I then did what I would hope any other parent would do in my situation, I went to the school district. I found out the School District was running another school bond after the 1st one failed by a small margin. I joined that committee only to find out there was not enough people who felt the same way I did/do when the bond failed.

During the process I learned there were a lot of people who wanted change. They felt this way because of a lack of belief or trust in the people who were currently holding the positions within the school district or school board. At that moment, I decided I would run for school board the next time my zone came open. Well that time has come, I have officially put my name, William Murray, into the hat with the intent of representing Zone 4 for the next three years.

I would be glad to answer any questions any of you might have. You can ask them directly on the Banter Board or email me @

wtmurray_1998@yahoo.com

The official notice for the election is on the school districts website @

http://www.mtnhomesd.org/board/Notice_of...

The election will take place at the school district office on May 19th, 2009 from 8:00am-8:00pm.

At this time I would also like to thank Mrs. Gridley for her 17 years of dedicated service to the school board. She has chosen not to run and will not be on the ballot May 19th.

I look forward to the election and bringing some new ideas and views the school district

Sincerely,

William Murray

Public Hearing

When: Monday, May 4, 6:00 p.m.

Where: Commissioners Room, 150 S. 4th East, Mtn. Home

Description:

Zoning & Development Ordinance and revised Future Land Use and Zoning Maps

Have a great day everyone!

sas,

it was a cougar, and it was in town not necessarily at the junior high. They didn't catch it, they said it left town. I wanted to laugh when I read the email at school... it was just so random.

Old Guy

You got to be kidding what happened to a law enforcement officer. If you know anymore lets us know, just no excuse for that and surely hope the person never gets out of jail.

I heard that the Animal Shelter had had it and it got loose. They put the schools in a soft lock down.

Glad you liked it midea. It was interesting I thought. Have a nice weekend.

Well, this is interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEX...

So, the Dems knew in 2001 and chose to DO NOTHING. Imagine that.

I suggested a positive Thursday way back when the school bond was going on. Reason being: Each day of the week is has something special about it. Monday-1st day of work for most, Tues.- Hoping Wed comes so we are in the middle of the week, Wed. is hump day, cresting the hill, middle of the week, Thurs? - nothing. Friday - Last day till weekend, Sat.and Sunday - no work> At least this fits for most.

The BB also needed a day to just take a break from the "Banter and debate" and enjoy, and share the good things going on in our lives also. So, I suggested to make Thursday a day of Positive and if everyone agreed - to just post positive. It was a nice day, and quite a few looked forward to it. So, anyway - that's how it got started.

Thursday became a positive day for the BB.

Just thought it was a good day to share and appreciate the good things in our lives.

LOL Sas! ;O)

My understanding of 'Positive Thursday' is that it gives everyone a day to read the MHN and think things through before lashing out or commenting, considering the paper comes out on Wednesday. I think it came about when there were numerous 'fights' going on in the letters to the editor which carried over onto here in an all-consuming way on Thursday. I could be totally wrong though - it certainly wouldn't be the first time (or last). ;O)

FWIW, 'banter' doesn't have to be negative. In fact, the dictionary I have right here at my desk says "banter: to speak in a witty and teasing manner" and also "banter: good natured witty joking". Sounds like that could certainly be positive.

"you take what is suppose to be the Happy Positive Thursday on the banter box"

The purpose of a banter box is to banter... correct? If so, there should be no such thing as 'positive thursday.' It completely contradicts the point of the banter box...sorry my opinion.

So Opinnion Missy sounds like the police looked into it and found no grounds for assault. Instead of a conscipracy maybe you were just wrong about what you saw - oh no! never! Your not too credible when you say Gillispie wieghs 250pounds when he clearly doesnt. Maybe get your eyes checked because other people there say Gilispie shoved no one. The SRA was looking for something to smear the company with days before the hearing, talk about respect for the county proccess, then their was no grounds for the assault complaint. Strike two, maybe 200 by now.

I read this board and see you try to stop every kind of progress here, probably you oppose the air base being here too like the S.R.A. and you have no job. I heard you stand out in the road trying to block the street sweeppers because govt funds them(no just kidding but it wouldnt surprise me if you did).

"Happy" is cute today. You look at him and he makes you smile. The color is nice also.

Thank you once again for the "debate." The woman he pushed is 90 maybe 100 pounds...guess in your eyes it is okay to lay your hands on someone if they are of equal size. You are a credit to all WM employees.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Apr 29, 2009, at 6:44 PM

really? a walmart greeter? I think you would have a lot more power if you changed your tone.

Here's a little more I found on nail_pounder:

"Yeah I might be just a construction worker but even I am smart enough to know I love being and living in Idaho. I have 2 small children and I don't plan on moving. I plan on getting some Technical training so maybe I can work at this plant to provide my children and brighter future than what we currently have...

-- Posted by nail_pounder on Tue, Mar 31, 2009, at 12:32 PM "

nail_pounder,

What if AEHI doesn't follow through and build that nice, clean-energy, nuclear plant they say will be built and instead get some smoke chuggin', water pollutin', tire burnin' plant built in that area zoned Heavy Industrial...are you going to stick around and live in the polluted county? Or bettery yet...work there?

So what if she is gay? Does that really matter? Do "gay" people have any less right to an opinion or is their opinion any less important than that of a "straight" person? What was the point?

As far as your comments regarding the testimony of the young man at that hearing...that was pretty low. At least he spoke which was more than some did. Maybe he does not like public speaking. A room full of people can make people uneasy. At least he spoke and at least he is interested.

NP, did picking on a 16 year old boy make you feel better? Did the info you found (maybe) on Ms. Shipley make your day? You are on the right team...NP you are JUST like them. Have a nice life.

Here's what I found out about nail_pounder today:

1) didn't come right out and say it, but appears to have a problem with gay people; 2) criticizes people by attacking their children; and 3) is running for president of the Don Gillespie fan club.

I don't necessarily agree with the SRA's tactics and broader agenda, but being gay has no bearing on the proposed nuclear plant, and picking on a kid to make a poorly stated point is pretty low.

Have a great day!!

The great debate in Elmore County

This is what I found out...

Andrea Shipley Executive Director of the SRA- I find it interesting she writes articles for a gay/lesbian newspaper out of Seattle. In the Boise Weekly on June 6 2007 she is quoted as saying "Shipley said she and others involved hope to make it easier for far-flung gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people to participate in the state's political and social movements. Rural areas, of which Idaho has many, are the group's greatest challenges." So does this mean she is trying to make Elmore county a gay communtity center?... I cant believe some of the ranchers and farmers in Hammett are teaming up with these people!!!

Is there a dont ask dont tell policy in Hammett?

The SRA tried to kill the AG community in Idaho better yet the Ag folks in Elmore and Owyhee County by trying to protect the Bruneau Snail and shutting off the water to their crops. So who really would have paid for that? You and me.. no farms no food ..HMMMMMM What happens when the SRA decides the farmers are polluting the Snake River with all the run off of insecticides and pestacides? Yep the SRA will be back to trying to kill the AG community once again!!!!!!

I have yet to see the SRA do anything to try to improve our economic situation.

Plus they havent said anything about the wind farms in eastern Idaho... one is producing 90MW and is owned out of Seattle and the power is sold to Southern California.. The new wind farm that is being purposed to produce 400MW and use 20,000 acres compared to 1600 MW on 1280 acres. The math is simple and the power is going to be sold to Idahoans first. Then again Miss Shipley and her life partner have great interest in both Seattle and California. So do they really care about us Idahoans? If they are really trying to help small communities why are they not trying to help Atlanta Idaho residents get power to that town?? The small community lives off gas powered generators... Idaho Power refuses to build power lines to help our fellow Idahoans.

Beware AG folks these people are not our friends and will turn on you when they need to find something else to complain about..

Don Gillispie CEO and President of AEHI

The only negative things i could find out about him were things that the SRA or cronies says and nothing has been proven. His resume reads like a this Retired Military Commander and executive consultant to most if not all Nuclear power plants in the US and parts of the world.

I was at the rezone hearing too. If I could give some advice to a few people for a second.

Joe Weatherby- you had your teenage son speak or better yet sputter and stammer through a paused filled statement.. If you read the Idaho Statesman from yesterday you would see that textbook funding cuts are in line for our schools... This purposed plant would help with lacking dollars for your sons education through taxes it would be paying to the state of Idaho.

Looks like again the Snake River Alliance is still believing we are just a bunch of dumb hill billies that still believe in myths and urban legends regarding Nuclear power even though they have a picture of kids infront of an older Nuke plant on thier website front page... Plus technology is so much better now than when this plant was built. I failed to see any fear of that plant.

Have a great day!!!

Mr. Weatherby was born and raised in Idaho. He has never resided in CA. This is so typical of the things AEHI does to take attention off of themselves---just like the "Cooper" letter. Mr. Weatherby also does not own (or have any sort of ownership interest in) a wind farm as was claimed by the AEHI folks. So, what else can you come back with RE? I would be willing to bet that you do not reside here, in EC either much less Idaho. So, while Mr. Weatherby may be from OC, Idaho...at least he is from this state which is more than we can say about AEHI, the people who run the company, etc. This nuclear plant is an Idaho issue not just an EC issue. Good day RE.

Joe Weatherby's Opinion today:

Just consider the source: Mr. Weatherby is a liberal California transplant. His former state is out of power and has rolling brownouts and blackouts. He is not educated or informed enough to intelligently opposed nuclear power so he personally attacks the company leaders. A classic indicator he is a lefty trying to Californicate the state. He lives in Owyhee County. Just like the Snake River Alliance from Boise, who cares what they think regarding our county.

Talking about being in the right on the roads and walkways. There is a little "green belt" off of N 18th E. and you can walk or ride your bike on it. It runs parallel to the interstate. No motorized vehicles are permitted on it. Well, my husband and I were driving along the interstate yesterday and there was a police officers casually "Patrolling" along the walkway on a motorcycle. I thought we had "bicycle" police to do this. Anyway - I just thought it a little strange since no motorized vehicles are allowed and it is a narrow walkway.

It would seem to me that the parent taking their child to school would plan their route so as to arrive at the school so that the child would exit the vehicle on the school side. Therby negating the need for anyone to walk across the street.

Best wishes,

I am not going to keep up this debate over using a crosswalk or mid street, didn't see where anyone said they didn't cross in mid street which they should know traffic isn't going to always stop for them, so I did the next best thing and called and asked about it and these are the links to Idaho Law about crossing streets, take it for your self what they have to say.

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/...

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/...

A section from BorninMH Post:

"No, there was no cross walk, but, how abut some common decency? Its very sad."

-- Posted by BorninMH on Tue, Apr 28, 2009, at 9:52 AM

Well BorninMH, how about some common decency about teaching your kids the right and wrong way to cross the street, basically you were teaching your kid how to Jay walk.

You are all huffy puffy because you claim that NOT one car stopped for your kid, you also claim that they were speeding through, I do agree with you on that one...they do speed through school zones.

But you cant expect people to stomp on their brakes to let your son cross....even though their was no crosswalk present....you said it yourself "No you do not have to stop, but, maybe it wouldnt be such a bad thing!"

maybe it wouldnt be such a bad thing also to walk your son over to the designated cross walks on the corner where vehicles do have to stop!.

Oh my....Im so glad to have found at least 2 people in the world who have never crossed the street without using a crosswalk...Im not teaching my kids 2 different rules and also not crying poor me, so, enough of that. I have recently taken a job here in MH and I can sit at my desk and watch children, adults, elderly, what have you cross the street, in the middle, and even yes, in the crosswalk, and some cars stop, others do not, your choice. My post earlier was basically to make people aware, not to be bashed for my parenting, but, whats a day here on the BB without the self rightious ones out there who critisize everything...sorry folks, its not 1955, kids are different now. They do what they will, despite consequences...hope you dont run any of them over....

BorninMH

I didn't miss your point but your point was traffic to stop in mid street so people can cross and thats not the way to do things. I have been fighting the battle for a few years now to enforce that people in a crosswalk have the right of way and people should stop, I can't chance now and tell people to stop wherever someone wants to cross. Everyone any more is in to big of a hurry to get to whereever and I sure as heck don't want to see anyone hit or worse cause they were in a crosswalk or not.

borninMH

I will agree with you people need to slow down in the school zones when the kids are around. But are you in such a big hurry dropping off your kid at East that you are not teaching him the right way to cross the street, like that is what a crosswalk is for NOT crossing the street away from crosswalks. I know at East its not that far from the school entrance to go to the crosswalk at 8th and 10th where normally there is a person with a stop sign in hand to help the kids get across the street and that is what you should be teaching your kids the right way to cross streets.

Yep, so much for that. Have a great night.

Here are some links regarding some of the "misinformation" regarding AEHI and Mark P. as stated by WAYL. Thanks for the facts WAYL.

http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2008...

http://djysrv.blogspot.com/2008/02/owyhe...

You'll never guess what I stumbled across!

Two More Planners Exit Ada County

May 9, 2007 (4:37 pm)

Article taken from Boise Guardian - http://boiseguardian.com

URL to article: http://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/09/two-...

I guess Pecchenino was in trouble a year ago or so with planning commission in Ada County because he was moonlighting for Elmore County.

I guess as far as his behavior as consultant with Elmore County planning and zoning while being given loads of AEHI stock is legal somehow I still am troubled by it.

-- Posted by senior lady on Sat, Nov 15, 2008, at 10:34 AM

And if you read the BB right around November 12, 2008...there are interesting facts there as well.

Two More Planners Exit Ada County

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The GUARDIAN has it on good authority two more employees of the Ada County Development Services have left. They are dropping like flies.

The sudden departure Monday of veterans Mike McClenahan, who ran the "support services" and Scott Cook, a planner, have tongues wagging in the courthouse. Some speculate the departure of these two highly regarded professionals has something to do with a reorganization of duties among the Commishes.

Commish Paul Woods was overseeing the planning functions, but he recently switched with Commish Fred Tilman who now is the liaison to the development services staff.

Last week Development Director, Gerry Armstrong, announced his resignation to join Hubble Homes as director of planning for the private development firm. Armstrong will officially leave his position May 16 and join Hubble the next day. He joined former Commish Judy Peavey who is Hubble's director of governmental affairs.

Earlier this year county planner Mark Pecchenino left the development services office after it was revealed he was moonlighting for Elmore County. He is currently a private consultant for developers.

So much turnover and a law suit filed by Save the Plateau activist Tony Jones claiming unfair treatment from Ada County at a public hearing could make for an interesting summer on the development front."

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 27, 2009, at 11:45 AM

VT,

Don't despair. I'm sure if you hadn't come along, someone would have stopped to give them help. It's a scary world out there anymore and people are afraid to stop. This generation wasn't raised knowing about "The Good Samaritan"; they've been raised to be cautious of strangers.

The ones laughing or flipping the finger will get their Karma.

I(heart)myboys

Your so welcome and thank you to you and spouse for taking the time to follow what has been going on and want to sign the Petition as you know won't take many more and this can be turned in and put on the ballot. Glad your kids enjoyed their game and the treats you got them afterwards, I am sure it made their day.

That great (heart) always a good way to give the kids a treat after the hard played game, I will be driving a Black Chev pickup, if you know anyone else that would like to show let them know also, I will take all the signatures I can get, have a good nite.

I(heart)myboys

Sounds ok with me games never end like they should so I will say about 1:30 at Moxie parking around that time, if that will work for you see you then, if not let me know and if anyone else would like to show at that time I can be there or maybe later if need be.

I(heart)myboys

I have the petition along with some others and I can meet sometime this weekend in town for you or anyone else that would like to sign it.

I wanted to further explain what I said at the hearing about how splitting this decision opens Elmore to a winnable lawsuit from AEHI that will force in the plant.

The Commissioners will vote on this step one, deciding "whether the rezone of the site would be possible." If they say "YES", since we are not thinking of nukes, then we will consider the proposal, this vote is on public record. This sets you up for illegally discriminating against a legal nuclear business if they TRY to vote NO later when looking at the specific proposal. If the Commissioners are on recorded vote saying sure by golly, we might consider any wonderful industry, like a lavender oil factory or an ice cream maker, then pandora's box is open for ANY legal business to force there way in.

That's like the Jerome Sempra coal lawsuit I mentioned, when the county finally balked during public pressure. Sempra and AEHI have the right to do business in a Industrial zone. Once they vote to take a look-see at AEHI it will be to late to stop the lawsuit happy AEHI.

Sure hope they use the one legal tool they have, and vote to keep this zoned as AG.

Sempra only went away when so many people spoke up until the politicians ears burned...Peter

"Wednesday night, bringing total signatures in support to 1,600, about half of them from Elmore County."

OM: So because they have 1600 supporters, is that automatically what the community wants? ;)

My positive Thursday experience: My son asked, "mom, what's for dinner?" I reply, "I don't know...why don't you and your dad make dinner for once?"

My 12 year old son promptly went into the kitchen and made scrambled eggs and bacon for all of us. That's my boy!!! :-)

AtomicDog

I didn't say you couldn't comment here. You asked what people thought and I was trying to let you know that there were already comments on another blog.

Sorry you are having a tough time today. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you.

Public Hearing

When: Monday, May 4, 6:00 p.m.

Where: Commissioners Room, 150 S. 4th East, Mtn. Home

Description:

Zoning & Development Ordinance and revised Future Land Use and Zoning Maps

AtomicDog

Sorry, the zoning meeting comments are under Tim Wilcox's blog

Atomic Dog

The comments about the AEHI meeting are under YoB's blog. You can read all of them there

Does anyone know which store/s in Mtn. Home accept ONLINE coupons for food? I know we have the coupon link on Mtn. Home News web site and wondered about it as I had heard,in the past, that some places don't accept online coupons. I could be wrong or heard incorrectly. Anyone out there know first hand?

Also, if Mtn. Home stores don't accept them, what stores in Boise accept them? They could be used if waiting until we go to Boise for something else.

Happy Positive Thursday. I hope everyone has a great day. Rain is on the way! We are lucky to have some "free" water since irrigation water is low this year in parts. I have never had greener grass or nicer flowers. Happy Spring. Enjoy your day.

mhg,

Again, I think antinook is being satirical.

Antinook, um, are you maybe related to Dave Barry???

"Yes yoB, you are right....I went to bed last night thinking the same thing! Most people get married becasue they LOVE the other person and want to spend their lives with them......and if marrige is based on security like you say, gay or straight, it shouldnt matter....we all want the same, and the government should not be saying who one can marry...that was my point!

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Wed, Apr 22, 2009, at 8:03 AM"

I didn't say that I believe people get married for security. They get married to show their love. If it doesn't matter, then why can people say this couple is allowed to get married... but this couple isn't? "We all want the same" Don't you think gay people want the same? The same marriage as a straight couple?

So Antinook,

No facts huh? I would like to know which of your fellow anitnookers feel that way....because time and time and time again facts are all most will hear!

Nuclear power plant hearing tonight at 6:00 p.m. at the MH Junior High. Please try to attend. Have a good day all.

NOTICE CONCERNING PUBLIC HEARING PARTICIPATION

REZONING APPLICATION OF AEHI, INC.

To everyone contemplating giving testimony at the public hearing concerning the rezoning application of AEHI, Inc. seeking to change zoning of 1280 acres of land in the Hammett area from Agricultural A (Ag A) to Heavy Industry (M2), please recognize that the subject of the public hearing will be rezoning -- not nuclear power. Testimony that addresses the subject matter of the hearing will be far more effective than testimony that addresses an issue not before the Board of Commissioners. Those with an interest in the proposed rezoning are invited and welcome to testify. Testimony about subjects other than the rezoning may be ruled out of order so proper opportunity to participate can be provided to those who address the issue at hand. Thank you for your cooperation.

ELMORE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

Junkyard Dog:

Are you saying people only get married for kids and security? People don't get married to show their love for each other? That is why I thought people get married. And if two love each other, no matter who they are, why does it matter so much.

Amid the whole Miss California controversy, I would personally like to know why the government must get involved with who can and cannot get married.....Everyone is entitled to an opinion, belief, or what have you, BUT, no one should have the right to tell a person who they can love. Thats my thought for the evening......

Huge HUGE thank you to the person/s that turned my wallet into Walmart last night. Apparently they even tried the Sherrif's office first but it was closed - so they went BACK to the store. Wow! I will probably never know who you are, but I will also never forget the feeling of being 'lost' and assuming everything would be gone, and then the utter relief and renewed faith in people when I opened that wallet and saw NOTHING had been disturbed. I am very VERY grateful. Thank you so very much! :O)

I think we do need reminding about the Holocaust. We need to learn from the unspeakable acts not to repeat them. The Holocaust was not only against Jews, of which there were 6 million -- SIX MILLION -- atrocious deaths, but also 3 million -- THREE MILLION -- other assorted "undesirables" were slaughtered as well: the mentally retarded, Jehovah's Witnesses, Slavs, Gypsies, and more.

Welcome and great Vid dreamer4goodnes. Although it has been posted before here in the BBox. It's nice to have a shortcut back to it. I have viewed the vid many times and it reminds me of something that I learned as a child.

You can't judge a book by it's cover.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY

A friend of mine passed this along to me in an email. I honestly couldn't believe that the milk industry is promoting this to the women of the Hispanic community. I think the Dairymen have gone too far with this. Please read the following article and check out the ads on YouTube. I thought the world was advancing in its view of women. I guess it hasn't reached the Dairy Industry...

The Article is called :

Stereotyping Women As Hormonal Inferiors

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/not...

If you don't wish to read the article, just go to the you tube to watch the ads.

The menstruating dairy industry witch ad:

The ad begins with this voice over:

"Every month a scary witch haunts the town of Kent."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ton9-15bc...

The new ad begins:

"Una vez al mez..." which translates as: once each month...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvMn7zsK...

I'm offended and I am not Hispanic. Does the milk industry think so little of women?

Or is it just they think so little of Hispanic women.

What do you think?

It was a beautiful day today, good friends, and good music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40E...

halle10

Please know that Mountain Home is a close family town. Someone usually knows someone very close.... We all want to you and your family to know that you are also in our prayers along with Kayley and her family...... Losing someone so young is very hard, time does heal but it thankfully it never lets you forgot.... the one time you met Kayley should always be your treasure. Remember that time as if it were yesterday, today and tomorrow..... we are all sorry for your loss......

What a pretty day. The sun is out and we have 2 eagles back! I am going to celebrate this day by going for a ride on my horse. What better way to celebrate sun and no wind? What a great day! Must get! Have a good one.

Thanks Old Guy, I didn't even see the link. :)

We'll see how this goes...

yoB, start here: http://weblogs.about.com/od/startingablo... and spend some time learning what makes a good blog.

Next, write up a one or two page proposal and send it to the editor or publisher of this newspaper. If it's going to be about the WECRD you better present it to the WERCD board. I'm sure the paper will want their support before granting you space on its Web site. Give them all time - a few days - to read it, then follow-up with a phone call and see if you can make an appointment to answer any questions.

If they turn you down, don't give up, start your own. There are plenty of host sites for bloggers and some of them are free. One way to drive traffic to your blog is to post a short comment at the end of the story in the newspaper, along with a link to your blog for details.

Hang in there, always ask yourself about your intentions before you post and good luck.

OK, BREAK TIME!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLs7xoX_v...

Great idea Vic. The time is right and maintaining it would be a constructive learning experience for all involved.

I agree with homedog. OM has asked that any rebuttal posts be done where the orginal post was made and yet YoB seems to want to take her fight on the front page. I wonder whom is seeking attention here? Just my opinion for what it is worth.

Ms. Lauric,

"how can someone working on a petition to get rid of the WECRD stand before the people and state they "support" the "plan" or effort when I do not?"

That wouldn't be the point in applying. The point, for you, would be that you support a facility, you have ideas, you want to take on a leadership role. You wouldn't need to support the plan.

"Change is needed on this project and it will not happen when only like-minded people run the show."

Another reason for you to apply for that position.

"Besides, 2 against 1 would not have done a thing."

Again, you suggest working AGAINST each other. You will never accomplish the facility you 'support' by working against. Both sides need to make sacrifices.

YoB,

I can tell you why I didn't apply ~ why jump onto a sinking ship......my time is much more valuable than that.

The only reason that this is such a issue is because a group is trying to get it dissolved. The WECRD went for years without any progress, as I can see there still isn't any, just backing up and getting the YMCA involved AGAIN.............

When OM and group raised the issue of the WECRD being dissolve it woke those folks up that their meal ticket was about to end..... that they should start to actually TRY to produce something.

You seem to be very knowledgable about the whole WECRD process, so what exactly is the next thing on the adgenda and when will be ever see anything built?

OM:(response to your post on the article)

Why would you try to dissolve the WECRD when you could join it? You said you support a recreation center. How are you ever going to change what you support if you don't take on the leadership role? It doesn't matter if you do not support the plan. You 'support' a recreation center. That would be the reason to apply, you have a common goal with the other directors... Why didn't you at least apply to make a point? Being in support of the plan is not a requirement to apply. Being n support of a recreation facility is.

Basically, you didn't apply... end of story.

OM:

I don't read much of your blogs anymore. I don't know where you posted your reasoning. Could you explain?

yoB, I posted under the article as opposed to the BB. Why not keep it all in 1 place?

Pretty day today; still looking to see the tree out front all leafed out. It happens so quickly! So we check each morning, hoping to be the first to see it all green again.

This year's litter of squirrels counts only three but are cute (and hungry).

Young robins getting their worms, other birds enjoying the seed. Heard mourning doves, but have seen only some ring-necked myself. Unless they have the same call? Definitely not an expert here.

Had a wonderful experience Tuesday on the phone! (Had a terrible time on the phone with folks Monday.) But on Tuesday the phone was answered by a person before the second ring -- no automated-voice or menus. The man was very polite and when he had to check on something I was on hold for only a moment -- didn't even get to hear the complete Harry Belafonte mild calypso record. What a nice experience. Of course he was AARP and knows about folks in my age bracket I guess. Very nice.

Have a good day, all.

Happy Positive Thursday! Good day to all.

Sad news to start our Thursday:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdate...

It looks as though the editor has gotten hold of some of the AEHI kool-aid. It's now clear that anyone questioning the viability of this 5, 6 or ten billion dollar proposition is immediately labeled "anti-nuke" by the folks proposing it and anyone who hasn't taken the time to evaluate its finances. So let's look at some excerpts from the mouthpiece of Idaho's "pro-nuke" business community, "The Idaho Business Review". Obviously not a bunch of left-wing Sun Valley or Boise liberals, this upstanding pro-nuke business newspaper had this to say, questioning their finances over a year ago, and still with no answers:

Idaho Business Review, February 25, 2008 Financials: Alternate Energy Holdings came with few assets, no R&D

"The company had also calculated prepaid patent costs as a long-term asset of $1.1 million. According to the report, the prepaid patent costs represented "the fair market value of 1,149,999 shares of common stock that were issued to acquire pending patents for the removal of carbon dioxide from the exhaust of combusted fuels, a lightning harvesting, storage and conversion device, and a method and apparatus for heating and vaporizing liquid ethanol to improve the performance of gas turbine engines."

Because the company's finances were tied directly to the sale of its stock, liabilities canceled out assets: The combined total assets of $1.4 million were exactly equal to the company's total liabilities and stockholders' equity for the year.

Alternate Energy Holdings also reported a $19.5 million net loss in 2006, with $18.2 million lost to continuing operations.

The company's March 31, 2007 quarterly report (the last time the company filed a financial report), told the same story: Total assets of $255,137 equaled total liability and stockholder equity."

These questions were asked over a year ago. Where is the financing? No answer has been given.

What money? What Jobs?

http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm...

Did anyone else apply?

I just had a hilarious thought. What would have happened if only one person applied and that person didn't agree with current building plan? That person would have had to have been given the seat. Now wouldn't that have been a hoot.

Sorry - I couldn't help my sick little sense of humor. ROTFLOL

I was told the day before it was closed for people to apply that there was only one applicant. I don't think that the issue is the pools. The issue is sustainability. If there can be pools and a sky diving school, and they are sustainable, then all is well. Ms. Sellers is an upbeat addition to the board and I'm sure will add valuable input.

So if she was the only applicant and they did a public interview, she was awarded the position what is the problem she agrees with the plan that is why she applied and nobody else applied for it. If someone wanted to apply that was against the plan that was within their right and if they were not choosen and they felt is was due to thier position they would have a arguement. Since nobody else bothered to apply the board was well within their rights to choose Ms. Stellars. I know it was probably a conspiracy and the board is lying about hers being the only application because that is how every form of government works.

At the last meeting, it was stated that Marsha Sellers was the only applicant. They did a public interview with her at the last meeting and then she was appointed. She pulled her chair right up to the table and the meeting went on.

Old guy,

I am not sure what the truth is, I would hope that more than one person applied but don't know and since I don't know for a fact I won't comment on it.

Old guy

from what I heard she was the only person who applied for the job. You would think with so many people against the plan someone from that side would at least apply. Since no one else did there is no reason to disagree with the choice they made to fill the position.

midea, I just got in from Utah and they had either 4 or 5 "tea parties" there and the area had a ton of traffic (SLC to be specific). I do not know how they went but they were all over the news this morning from 5-7. Hope they follow up with a news story or 2.

Cool Runnings

"Wong" was usually "Wrong" in every thing he said or did while at the Base.

I'm sure that Mr. Gillespie is looking for Idahoans to invest in the proposed nuclear power plant, but he is also looking for over seas investors as well.

I was traveling to Utah on Sunday March 1st and just happened to tune to a radio station that was interviewing Mr. Gillespie. He openly stated that he was currently in London England seeking investors to help in the financing of the proposed nuclear power plant. Mr. Gillespie stated that he was finding it a more favorable climate to finding investors in Europe than in the United States because people there are generally much more receptive to having nuclear power plants.

Another thing I find interesting is one of the consultants or spoke persons for AEHI is Bruce Wong. As many of you may now know he is a retired United States Air Force Colonel, once stationed at Mountain Home AFB. While stationed here Mr. Wong had little good to say about Mountain Home and Mountain Home AFB, and that he was quite anxious to leave Idaho. Well guess where Mr. Wong now resides? The Treasure Valley area. Imagine that!

Just my 2 cents worth.

Best wishes,

Sorry about the double post.

Small town,

According to Wikipedia: "today some consider an urban place of fewer than 100,000 as a town, even though there are many officially designated cities that are very, very much smaller than that." By this definition we are a small town.

yoB

Back to my original point, I, like many others, would like the town to stay small. I raised my children here, in a small town atmosphere. They have both grown and gone now, both successful in their chosen paths and both miss Mountain Home. I have managed to provide a decent life style for my family and managed to improve our position in life. All, while living in Mountain Home. My point is bigger is not always better, better is better.

yoB,

Residential growth is inevitable. Like it or not we are becoming a bedroom community to Boise. This type of growth is natural and will ebb and flow with the economy. The infrastructure support to this type of growth is much different than for industrial growth. Kuna had to put a moratorium on building new developments to allow the infrastructure to catch up with the demand. We will have to do the same if it gets out of hand.

jtrotter:

you are completely right, This town, as is, cannot handle growth. But the population is increasing, how do you stop that? When the population increases, everything else should be increasing along with it. It isn't though. That is the problem. Whether you agree with it or not, the Mountain Home population is growing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcWspfgk9...

jtrotter:

"The inability to stay a small town. When asked, most people rate this as the number one thing most liked about our town, then the next thing out of their mouths is we need growth. Doesn't make good sense to me."

you bring up a good point that I never thought about.

I think it is impossible for Mtn. Home to stay a small town. Mostly because of the air force and Boise. The convenience of having a lake a half hour away, and the city 40 miles away. I think this type of town is a desired one.

The problem becomes having too many people here/moving here to stay a small town. When a 'small town' has too many people that is when the community is going to want a recreation center/youth center, etc.

Personally, I don't desire mtn home to remain a small town. I could just go to Thermopolis, Wyoming if it got too big for me. I just enjoy the small townness.

I guess what i am getting at... is Mountain Home is too convenient to stay a 'small town' in my opinion.

Bondyweb:

1. What are the most pressing issues for Mountain Home?

-Nuclear power plant and it's positive and negative effects on our community and state!

2. What do you like the most about Mountain Home?

-It's vicinity to all the things my family likes to do, small town feeling, camaraderie between friends and family alike

3. If you could have one new business open up in Mountain Home, what business would that be?

-A skating rink!!

4. How many vehicles do you think pass by Mountain Home each day on I-84?

-I have no clue

5. Who is tired of reading all the 5th grader type bickering on the Banter Box?

-are you joking? I know people who can't wait to read the BB every morning! It's the closest thing we have to a reality show in our own town!! (Sense of humor people!)

6. How will the Mountain Home High School football team do next Fall?

-I don't know.

Sonya,

Shhhh! My reputation will be ruined!! ;-)

bondyweb:

l. nuke plant, creating jobs

2. good location, close to lots of outdoor activities, close to air base

3. an upscale fine dining restaurant/bar (remember Joe's?)

4. no idea

5. I think (hope) most of us are - the sane ones anyway. I think if junior high kids read this BB they would have a good laugh

6. no idea

Thanks for asking. Anyone of these questions should be a MHN poll question.

OM,

I dont think I mentioned you at all in my post now did I..but, no matter because you would take that as a threat....you are rediculous! Call it what you want because you will anyway. Thanks for the laugh, oh, and no need to supoena the MHN, you have my name :) Im sure now you will be requesting adresses and phone numbers along with posts that irritate you...Im just waiting for that one. YOu can try to inimidate me until you are blue in the face. That crap does not work with me!

Sonya Sperry

SAS,

You definently are a tart....sweet tart :) I think you were a twit at one point as well werent you?

outtathere,

Thank you for your compliment...I have always tried to find the humor in most situations!

The almighy all knowing lady in red....You are being an instigator and your big mouth is eventually going to get you into trouble and bite you....

Hey OM,

Was that the post where you asked/invited someone to push you?

"Elmore Power Plant Hearing": Not true. There is no "Elmore Power Plant Hearing". There is a zoning hearing. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what industrial use is made of the property, no matter what the pitchmen from AEHI try to say.

http://www.elmorecounty.org/offices/comm...

Monorail!

Now I think I understand why the "BULL" charges at the color "RED".

YoB

I am sure he is looking forward to that.......

Working Bee:

Even though I never have homework, doesn't mean I am going to break the school rules and have my ipod out and fall asleep on the desk. Maybe these students could bring a book to class, like I plan to. I might even start an online class and do the work in that class.

I don't believe I ripped him up and down... I said I don't think he should allow students to get away with so much. I just said it with a poor choice of words. My apologies.

I look forward to being in his class, he is an enjoyable person. I just don't agree on the way he runs his class. That's it though, it is HIS class. Maybe me and him could discuss town politics? :)

As far as the "let them fail at it" theory:

AEHI, in their own words:

"There is a risk that in the licensing process, further investigation and analysis could discover facts that would preclude development of the Site as planned such as unknown and unfavorable geological conditions on Site or endangered species habitat."

"The monies raised by any private offering may not be sufficient for the continued proposed operations of AEHI. There is no assurance that additional monies or financing will be available in the future or, if available, will be at terms favorable to AEHI."

"AEHI has achieved no cash flows to date, and management foresees limited cash flows until any property it permits and acquires is sold, leased, or the asset is merged into an entity that will finance, own and operate reactors at the Site."

The risk of committing to a highly risky venture with a company with no proven track record: The people of Elmore county could be stuck with one of these:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/s...

Quote from that story:

"The new owner has no immediate plans for the site where two developers in 10 years have failed to erect a building."

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

YoB,

Since you riped Mr. Schroeder up one side and down the other earlier in the Banter Box, I am sure he will find you a pleasure to be in his class.

Do you think any of those ipod listening, falling asleep kids might just be in the same boat as you NOW? No homework and nothing else to do in the class.

Let us know how You improve the class for Mr. Schroeder.

IRONY IS FUNNY!

If any of you read my tirade over Mr. Schroeder, you're gonna find this funny. I had to drop a class at school, and when you drop a class they put you in 'study skills.' Guess who teaches 'study skills?' Mr. Schroeder! I never have homework so I don't know what I'll do in his class.

*sigh*

karma? :)

HOLY COW!!! Sorry for the triple post!!! LOL

I'm sorry to see you leave, RetiredExec.

Isn't that the norm of the younger generation; the experienced, knowledgeable, seniors of yesterday don't know what they're talking about.

I hope you'll give it another thought.

Thanks for your information-I for one found it very helpful in trying to sort this out for myself.

Sandy

Retired retired Exec said: "I doubt there is a more experienced and honorable board running any company in Idaho."

Here's one, and it took about 10 seconds to find:

http://www.idacorpinc.com/corpgov/direct...

And this company makes a profit, actually provides jobs, and has a proven track record. Shareholders even receive dividends.

The Man In The Arena is good as far as it goes, but it is certainly more applicable to a man like Theodore Roosevelt than to a Company attempting to influence land use decisions to better its fiscal performance. Mr Roosevelt didn't intended it as blanket immunity for thoughtful criticism. Richard Nixon did refer to it in his resignation speech. Perhaps the "man in the arena" in this instance is one of the many surrounding landowners attempting to preserve his quality of life in the face of an all-or-nothing onslaught of spin from a company of with no history of success but the expenditure of 8.7 million dollars on who knows what.

Notice that each thing pointed out is not answered directly, but instead the response shifts elsewhere.

The youtube video helps illustrate the concept of the outsider coming in to 'help' the country bumpkins, in case you didn't get to watch it. It's as helpful as the DVD the company sent everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xGtjhZ_...

The company's annual report- be sure to read it:

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

Analysis of the stock:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=AEHI.PK

Scoutin; what are talking about?..Have you ever met him? I have and checked him out before buying stock. You have obviously done no homework, but are repeating the anti-nuke mantra. Why don't you look at him and his director's resumes? Men that are retired and decorated nuclear Navy veterans...nuclear submarine captains', past presidents of electric utilities and the head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission with awards from US presidents. These men all have had secret clearances and background checks their entire careers. I doubt there is a more experienced and honorable board running any company in Idaho. Good heavens son, don't blast a man's character unless you know something!

WMG: Not trying to stop it- making sure everyone has a chance to form an educated opinion given the onslaught of information from the Eagle and Boise outsiders. The landowner is not an Elmore county resident. The bulk of the Idaho shareholders are from when the project was in Owyhee county.

It isn't outsiders telling folks what they can't do with farmland, it's the citizens of Elmore County who enacted the planning ordinances and the comprehensive plan, and it was enforced by the Local P&Z commission. It's the outsiders from Eagle, Boise, and Thaxton, Virginia who think they know better than the citizens of Elmore County.

From the AEHI ad link: "The question of rezoning this land is a simple one; are liberals from SunValley and Boise going to come in and dictate land use policy here in Elmore County?"

Excellent question, and one that is even more important when rephrased this way:

The question of rezoning this land is a simple one: Is the CEO of a Nevada Corporaton from Thaxton, Virginia, headquartered in Eagle, with an 8.7 million dollar deficit and substantial doubt about its viability going to come in and dictate land use policy here in Elmore County?

EXCELLENT question by Mr. Gillispie of AEHI, regarding the fundamental inappropriateness of outsiders attempting to dictate Elmore County land use policy. I think the answer is obvious.

Don't forget to watch the DVD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xGtjhZ_...

I just wonder how in this economy, a start up like a nuclear power plant can get off the ground. It has no true monies right now, I doubt really it could get a loan just to clear the land, with out even looking at the cost to put the towers in. So, do we as tax payers foot this bill?? My belt is already tight and I dont want to pay further for a pipe dream, one that this company has been run out of other states for. To top it off, the CEO has even said the power will be sold to the highest bidder, which will not be Idaho, we cant even keep our roads going and stay in budget. So, throwing in the further cost of buying power being produced in our state, its doubtful. Im sure we are a perfect area for a plant like this, and I would like to see something like this come in, but not from a snake oil salesman who seems to think that the local country bump-kin will be all for the pretty green glow on the horizon and a dried up river to go four wheelin' in. I know it has been said it will be a low water plant, but this was one of the reasons this company has been ran out of other states, they couldnt show how it was going to be a lower water plant. Im a military transplant here, and I plan to spend the rest of my life here, one of the few, I couldnt imagine living anywhere else now. And I would love to see growth here, more than anything, but not like this. I invested in this company a few years back, then did my research, I should have done this the other way around, because I would have never put money in. I too was looking for something to come here and help Elmore County out, but everywhere this company has gone has ended in them being told to leave, that says so much. So now they are here, in our back yard, and we are at a cross roads. I ask people to just look into the company and its doings elsewhere, and make a conscious decision, no petty bickering, or name calling. If you feel they should go ahead and put the plant here, so be it, as long as you did your homework. I for one like the wind generators that have been popping up, Lord knows we have more than enough wind to go around. Shoot Im planning on getting a residential one myself to harness some of it and sell back to Idaho power. But honestly, as long as we are all making a well informed decision and looking at the now and the future, I think we will come to the right place. On a side note, we lost a great troop who was stationed here last week, he was a true Airman and a really good friend. Donny you will be missed in ways you will never know and I hope you have found the peace you so sourly sought, Gods speed.

Funny, got a DVD the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xGtjhZ_...

Lots of catching up to do:

"When you attack AEHI..."

Not "attacking". Pointing out the company's own information on how likely it is they will be able to execute their plan, and quoting the company's own statements. That's not attacking. Indeed, the CEO himself said he "welcomes the scrutiny", just ask him.

"...you are attacking an Idaho based company owned by Idaho stockholders.."

From their own annual report:

"Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc. was incorporated in the state of Nevada on July 31, 2001."

"Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc. commenced operations in August 2005 and is organized as a corporation under the laws of the State of Nevada."

"AEHI is a Nevada corporation."

Regarding who the shareholders are, again from the annual 10-k:

"All directors and executive officers as a group(nine persons):42,545,044 (shares), 54.43% (of the total shares)

Thus, over half the company is owned by nine persons, the officers and directors. 28% of the company is owned by the CEO, Mr. Gillispie.

Some advice from the CEO of the company, courtesy of his annual report to the SEC:

"Due to the highly speculative nature of AEHI's business, Investors should not invest unless they can financially bear the loss of their entire investment."

"AEHI has minimum liquid assets at December 31, 2008, and will be reliant upon stock offerings to fund any kind of nuclear operations. The only capital resources of the AEHI are its common stock."

What money? What jobs?

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

http://www.energyforelmore.com/petition....

This is the link that I get when I click on the banner at the top of the page.

Not to get off topic because the nuke issue is really important, but I bet that some posters on here are using multiple sign-on names. It's remarkable how some of these posters sound so much alike in their viewpoints, their phraseology and how they express themselves. I've got a hunch about a few but I'll keep that to myself. And how about posters so starved for attention that they take people's blogs from other web-sites and cut and paste the parts about themselves on to the banter-box. Maybe it's just me but I find that really weird! In fact, I suggested to SAS that tricks that posters use should be the topic of her next blog! Hope this weekend is warm and sunny, sure would like to spend it outdoors.

After reading most of the blogs about AEHI I

have decided that most of the blogers veer off on an irrelivant tangent about AEHI's financial situation. The question before the County

Commissioners is only about a transfer of zoning

from aggricuture to heavy manufacturing. The only

money involved is the resposibility of AEHI and it's investors. If AEHI is successful it will be

a boon, not only to Elmore County but to the state

of Idaho.If they are not successful..so be it.

It seems to me that the Anti's have ulterior motives and are using any argument that, regardless of their fallaciousness and ignorance, will benifit their agenda. Which brings to mind

the environmentalist and the paranoid uneducated.

Last nights news broadcast had a commentary about

the future need of nuclear power, relating that it is far better, more reliable and cost effective than any other source of clean energy

that is readily available. The vast majority of the population wants nuclear power and the Anti's

cannot come up with an arguement that cannot be

resoloved.

wants nuclear energy and

mmcgwire1: please do not feed the troll.

Bazookaman

Need to find out how to get in contact with you about the tea party in Boise. How do I do that?

It is my feeling that they chose Elmore County because they felt that there would be little educated opposition. My only objection is that this company needs to be more forthcoming. The website and their various outlets are simply propaganda. I do economic research and find that their numbers are inflated. This says something about the character of those proposing the information. Only those who have fear and uncertainty need over-the-top figures. If they are uncertain about their prospects, it would make sense that we would have the same doubts as well.

Retired Exec..."clean" energy? What about the tons and tons of nuclear waste that are produced? Before you say they will be reprocessed---there is no facility in the US able to do that. So, this waste will be stored, on location for at least 25 years. How is that "clean" energy?

As far as your stock holders go...much of the stock was GIVEN to people. Why? In exchange for services that AEHI did not have the money to pay for. There is a big difference between investing in a company and being given stock that is worthless. Nothing is still nothing.

If this is such a great thing, why not build it in Eagle or Star? Oh yeah...easy to get something past a bunch of uneducated folks from the country. Guess you missed your mark on that one.

So, remind me again Retired how this will help Idaho when in your meetings and hearings you have stated this power will be sold to the places willing to pay the most for it. How does that help Idaho if the power generated does not even stay here? WE, the people of Idaho, will still be importing expensive energy. I am sure the statement directly below is true for the summer months when it is 110 degrees. What will the water useage be and what reactor will be used? How many reactors will be located on this land? What is the story?

"Limited Water Useage

advanced third-generation reactors consume as little as 100,000 gallons of water per day to cool the reactor."

We are importing expensive energy!

Idahoans currently send $3 billion a year out of state to purchase energy! We need to reverse this trend.

An Elmore County nuclear power plant would help Idaho supply future energy demand. According to the Western Electricity Coordinating Council, demand for electricity in the West is projected to increase 20 percent over the next decade. At the same time, Idaho is ill-prepared to face its future energy needs, according to a study of proposed power plants compiled by the U.S. Energy Information Agency. Between 2007 and 2011, Idaho is scheduled to bring on line 337 megawatts of energy, mostly from wind and geothermal projects, putting it dead last among the 11 Western states. The proposed Idaho Energy Complext power plant is currently the only large base-load power plant of any kind proposed for Idaho.

Plans for the plant are progressing. Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc. has submitted a request to Elmore County to rezone 1,280 acres of hay field from agricultural to industrial. The Elmore County Commission has scheduled a public hearing on the application on Wednesday, April 22 at 6 p.m. in the Mountain Home Junior High School Auditorium, 1600 E 6th South.

Energy Comparison

About Solar Energy

Photovoltaic devices use semiconducting materials to convert sunlight directly into electricity. Solar radiation, which is nearly constant outside the Earth's atmosphere, varies with changing atmospheric conditions (clouds and dust) and the changing position of the Earth relative to the sun. Nevertheless, almost all U.S. regions have useful solar resources that can be accessed. From eia.doe.gov

About Wind Energy

Winds are created by uneven heating of the atmosphere by the sun, irregularities of the Earth's surface, and the rotation of the Earth. As a result, winds are strongly influenced and modified by local terrain, bodies of water, weather patterns, vegetative cover, and other factors. The wind flow, or motion of energy when harvested by wind turbines, can be used to generate electricity. Wind-based electricity generating capacity has increased markedly in the United States since 1970, although it remains a small faction of total electric capacity. From eia.doe.gov

Wind facilities require about 130,000 acres and produce electricity with less than 20 percent reliability

Contribute to bird and bat deaths

About Nuclear Energy

American nuclear power has proven itself a safe, reliable and affordable workhorse for 52 years, producing more clean energy than any other source.

Limited Water Useage

advanced third-generation reactors consume as little as 100,000 gallons of water per day to cool the reactor.

Safe Energy

NO ONE has been killed or injured through radiation exposure in the 52 years of American commercial nuclear operations

104 reactors provide 20% of the energy in the US already

Multiple redundant security systems make "meltdowns" impossible in advanced reactors

Clean, Quiet and Compact

Reactors fit into cities, suburbs, high-end resort towns, farms and wildlife habitat

Nuclear plants produce large amounts of emissions-free energy for about 1.7 cents per kilowatt-hour, second only to hyrdo in low cost

Come on ATF...where is this info that should be right at your finger tips? How does it feel to do all of this work and get paid with stock...that is worth so little while Don and Ms. Ransom live the high life?

Did anybody watch that great DVD?

Help us bring jobs to Elmore County!

We need your help!

Help us bring these jobs to Elmore County in one or all of the following ways

1. Attend the Commission Hearing on April 22nd at 5:00pm at Mountain Home Junior High. We will also be accepting resumes for administrative, engineering, technical, maintenance positions and more.

2. Contact your commissioners and let them know you support the construction of power plants in Elmore County:

lrose@elmorecounty.org, ccruser@elmorecounty.org, ashaw@elmorecounty.org

3. Sign the online petition

Funny, we were ALL warned against contact with the ECC's. I guess the rules are different for you folks at AEHI. Intersting how that problem was fixed. So, now that people are "contacting" the ECC's (when Mr. Mason said not to) how does that sway the outcome of these hearings? You asked the people to turn in a resume and attend the hearing. Sounds a bit like bribery. Thank you for fixing the link. I hope Mr. Mason will take the time to read it as well.

Retired, why does it matter if someone is a stock holder or not? Why does it matter if they are pro/against nuclear?

It still does not change that the SEC filing was loaded with information that indeed disputes Don's claims to the people of Elmore County. Compensation in ANY form is COMPENSATION. 0 is 0. Nothing is nothing. You cannot get around that.

Respond to the questions and the facts as opposed to WHY it is being asked. AEHI filed the document not the people of Elmore County. You think they would have learned after the first report was filed.

So, what type of reactor(s) will be used? How much water will they use? Where have they been used before? How many reactors will there be total? What else will be on that site? Where will the power lines that are needed be located?

We deserve these answers and they should have been on the Application. So, what is AEHI attempting to get away with here? Rezone the land for nuclear but put a coal fired power plant out there? What is really going on? AEHI does not have the ability to hang on for the next 10 years waiting. So, what is the real story?

Sas, the reason I have not posted is because I had a horse die this week and my health is not well (not that that is really any of your business mind you). I am not the one doing the nuclear posting as I have been working on other things. Oh, and for the record, I am educated. I have a 4 year degree and a 2 year degree. I do all of my own research and read any and all reports I can get my hands on with regard to the things I am involved in. I do not need other people to make up my mind for me or tell me what I should think...like some of you on here. As for Don, Mr. Johncox and Ms. Ransom posting on here like this really is some great thing for Elmore County, it is a load of bull. To the AEHI folks could you maybe respond to some questions that should have been responded to way before now? Get some actual "facts" out there so we know what we are dealing with.

What kind of reactor(s) will be used? How many will there be total? How much water will the reactors use? Where will the power lines needed be located? Kindly list reference points as well regarding reactor history for the design of the week as I would like to also see your less than factual take on the info you have provided. These are questions that should have been responded to a long time ago...such as on AEHI's Application maybe. How do we, as a community, decide what to do without these answers? You cannot make a decision, based on facts, without this information. I just got a letter on Thurs. from the MH Irrigation District which states my water for this season will be 1/2 of normal. So, remind me again where all of the water for this "great" idea is going to come from? Think beyond the inflated jobs and the false promises of huge tax revenue. Beyond those 2 things, how great is the plan really?

I am not a tool for anyone to use. If I write something, I put my name to it. It is nice to know that when others post their thought on here, based on facts, that the only response is that it is OM at it again. Surprise! I have other things going on in my life like work! Sas and others if you had an original though between you, I would be shocked. Have a nice day.

Oh, and here are some other facts.

Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Battle of wits with an unarmed idiot

You would think some dumb .... would know when to shut the ....... up. But that doesnt seem to be the case. Just keeps opening her pie hole and shoving her foot, or something else, even deeper inside.

Posted by AtomicDog at 10:08 PM

2 comments:

sas212 said...

Hmmmm, totally quiet about everything. No one coming to her rescue either. That's interesting to me. She posted an emotional review about a program to take the attention away from the fact that she's a .... . Awwww, look at her go...her kind and empathetic side is showing.

April 6, 2009 11:31 PM

Certainly we can do better than this for the youth of our community. Sas, you are a liability to the youth center and any sort of fundraising efforts. I hope this fact is realized soon before YOUR acts ruin things for them. Your acts...the things you write and the things you say without regard for your actions. Have a nice day you tart.

Starting with the first from the Retired Exec:

"...obviously another anti-nuke"

"...without the technical education "

"...you are against nuclear power"

Never made a single assertion about nuclear power. Not one. Never made an assertion that required any technical education except the ability to read, and understand the concept of numbers, especially negative numbers and zero.

"...you attack everything about the company that is trying to help Idaho"

Only pointing out important information about the financial viability of a company claiming it will bring 5,000 jobs here. The financial statements make it easy to evaluate the likelihood of that happening. The purpose of a corporation is to make money. to "help Idaho" would only be beneficial if it has been a profitable going concern. It hasn't.

"if you don't own stock please keep quiet"

Don't own stock, and won't. Won't 'keep quiet'. The CEO himself says the scrutiny is welcome (see below) He doesn't want any of this hidden,according to his letter.

"trying to do something late in life to help using his career skills...I admire and thank him."

Not sure how that matters- he is a corporate CEO asking for loans and investor's money to the tune of 5 billion dollars. The track record and financial stability of the company are what matters. They are all that matters.

When you turn in a resume, ask where the financing is.

Justthefactsplease give it a rest. You are obviously another anti-nuke without the technical education to adequately express why you are against nuclear power. Instead of doing your homework like people with higher levels of education or least intellectual curiosity to understand the many benefits... but no instead you attack everything about the company that is trying to help Idaho with our power problem including the CEO who doesn't take a salary. Stock is not salary...there is no W-2 or withholding. Also, his stock is restricted and he can only sell limited amounts...looking at the AEHI situation doubt he could live on it if he had too. If you have noticed, none of the officers and directors have sold any stock so there is no income like a salary. So, if you don't own stock please keep quiet...if you do, then contact the company with your complaints. We are tired of hearing it! From what I have seen from you, you are definitely overpaid if you are even employed. This CEO is like me 65 years old or more and is living on his retirement trying to do something late in life to help using his career skills...I admire and thank him...he could be fishing like me...what are you doing to help with anything except complaining?

Just curious, Where exactly do I send my resume too or apply for a job...... when I click on the banner above it is a DEAD link.....

Left the earlier discussion due to lack of fish in the barrel.

Wasn't 'against' ST- ST neeeded lots of 'splainin'- just had to draw colorful pictures and still the point was lost. Ran out of crayons. (Not a reference to OM, btw)

Also wasn't 'against' the AEHI tool- just pointed out facts. AEHI tool did question the motivation rather than directly challenging the written record. Interesting, indeed. Heard it many times before.

Just try this- ask your banker for five billion dollars. When he asks you why you should get it, show him AEHI's financials. Anyone want to go do that? Please post your results.

Read the report yourself:

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

In regards to AEHI I am a true supporter I believe in what AEHI is doing and the jobs he is providing for Idahoans. I have had the pleasure of speaking to Mr. Gillispie in depth about the nuclear power plant and to also talk to several people at DEQ in regards to this as well. Nuclear sounds scary but do your homework, call AEHI and of course come into the conversation with an open mind. I as Mrs. Boise Intl a person with a family, a career, and many ties within our community give AEHI 100% of my support.

...and by the way, I find Opinion Missy's "absence" in this discussion highly unusual. OM...was it time for a change?

Let me see if I get this right:

ALLthefactsplease is apparently the new AEHI "tool" as was BoomerBeth was the WECRD "tool"

JUSTthefactsplease is...stop me if I'm wrong here...AGAINST anything ATFP or ST has to say and picking apart everyone's opinions because JTFP knows everything and has done much more research than anyone else on here!

Hmmmmmm, sound familiar?? Oh and the crayon thing....you know because AD told her to go in her corner and color the other day. Nice touch! :-)

Its funny I looked at the SRA website and they have a picture of school children standing on the side of the road in front of a Nuclear Plant .... I dont see any extra arms or disfigurements... maybe the kids just have very unloving parents to be that close to the plant....

Or here is even another idea ... Maybe those kids are totally safe from harm... or they simply are looking at the plant in hopes of someday working there because they are better educated at their young ages than the Snake River Alliance kooks......

But what do I know I am a simple nail pounder that is starving in this economy...

Please Hire me AEHI!!!!!!!

Well it is almost 420 so i guess the SRA will be taking a break..

Just to clairy I understood what you were saying just don't understand way it matters so much how he was compensated. He could have been saying he doesn't get money for a salary, again they weren't hiding anything because it is in their financial statement.

ST: I'm almost out of crayons, so work with me on this one.

Don Gillispie, in his own words, Sept 7,2008, to Statesman readers: "No executives or directors take salaries."

Definition of salary: "Fixed compensation for services"

Annual report:

"...Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services."

Can you spot the definition of salary in the SEC quote? Hint: "compensation for services". Bonus points: at $0.10 per share, what is the value of this "compensation for services"?

Crayons are put away now.

ST: Saw that post just as I was putting the crayons back away. Always happy to help out..

Definition of salary:"Fixed compensation for services"

From the 10-k:"...Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services."

Compensation for services, and compensation for services. Again, just reading, not reading into.

They can "hear" from the residents without anyone actually saying anything. If enough residents show up the commission will see how many people support the project. That is how they can "hear" from the residents.

Well put: "The Company appears to have been up-front..." Indeed.

Let's repeat what I have repeatedly repeated. Here is a vivid example of APPEARING to be upfront:

Don Gillispie, to Statesman readers: "No executives or directors take salaries."

Don Gillispie, to the SEC, under penalty of perjury:

"During the year ended December 31, 2008, Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services. During the year ended December 31, 2008, $120,000 of other compensation consisted of expense allotment for travel, auto, Idaho living expenses, entertainment."

I guess $120,000 of 'other compensation' may not 'techinically' be a 'salary', but if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck....well, you get the point.

They "appear" to be upfront, but when those pesky facts pop up, well...

(this scrutiny provided at the express written invitation of Mr. Gillispie)

Well, justthesratool, you're starting to repeat your repetitions of what the media have repeatedly reported! Yes, everyone knows this is a small company with a 10-year timeline and big promises. So what? As smalltown points out, if the plant gets funded and built, only then will the jobs materialize. The company appears to have been up-front about that at all times. Where has it been otherwise?

Most people applying for these 5000 jobs know that it is based on the company actually building, none applying have been intervied, or hired, the company is just accepting resumes. They never stated a hire or start date, and most applying know or should know that a job with the company is still along way off, and many will probaly find other opportunities in the meantime. Yet you still keep fousing on the financial statement of the company, obviously they are not trying to hide it becasue you got the information right from them. So where is their lie.

The words of Don Gillispie, Sept 7, 2008:

"Personally, I welcome the scrutiny, because investors and the public have a right to know how we're doing.

While we do not expect favorable coverage, we expect factual information, transparency and fairness in characterizing our enterprise."

It's Mr. Gillispie's 'agenda' being followed, if anything.

For our new SRA tool: "...the Company's significant operating losses ..." (repeat as needed).

Again, this is boilerplate for any company that is losing money, and there lots of those out there. As long as investors continue to invest, that is their business. If they get the money to build it, they get the money to build it. If they don't, they don't. They read the same boilerplate statements you do and continue to invest. What are you really trying to accomplish with this repetition of what the media have repeated from the repeated financial statements? Please clarify.

The point, for both ST and our new AEHI tool:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/s...

"...the Company's significant operating losses raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern. The Company has an accumulated deficit of $ 8,710,204 at December 31, 2008. The Company's continued existence is dependent upon its ability to raise capital or to successfully market and sell its products."

REAL IMPORTANT ONE here: "The ability of the Company to obtain future financing, and the terms of such financing, has not yet been established. The Company does not have any loan commitments."

Mr. Gillispie has been traveling all over the U.S. and the world for nearly three years attempting to obtain this financing.

Your point is taken but still I am not investing in this company and anyone who is your right they should know the financing of the company and most likely they do if they are already invested. The banks will look at all their financing and decide if they are able to loan to them. I again am more interested in the safety of the facility they want to build, that is what I want to know. I don't plan on investing money with this company and if by investing you mean tax dollars than I have no say in that but for me to personally go and invest in this company not planning on doing it. Also knowing the information you gave is not going to make me say they are dangerous to come here. All companies start out running on investors money wether it is personal investors or the banks.

I think my problem with all your information is it is I think you are focusing on the wrong thing. I am not concerned about the financial statements of the company, I am concerned about the safety of the facility they are going to build, how is it going to functions, what safety regulations are in place for that facility once it is up and running and what will it mean for our communtiy. I could care less about their financial statements because if they don't have the financing they won't get a loan for the facility and it we wont have to worry about it becasue the facility won't be built. As I understand it this is a new modern facilty so what is the safety record of this kind of operation as opposed to the nuclear plants in operation now.

If their fincancial situation is so bad and you are so sure they won't get funding, you are so sure they won't produce the jobs than why spend so much time fighting them. I still don't see the differnece between them trying to find support using the possible jobs and you guys using the lies of jobs to gain support for your side. It seems to me you are both playing on the fears of people in this economy. Both sides are just as bad as the other.

WMG: You quoted Mr Gillispie's 'puff piece':

"No executives or directors take salaries."

Compare that with what he reported to the SEC:

During the year ended December 31, 2008, Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services. During the year ended December 31, 2008, $120,000 of other compensation consisted of expense allotment for travel, auto, Idaho living expenses, entertainment.

Ditto for Ransom, Bucci, et al.

Not quite true, not quite false, but sure is misleading.

Next one from his puff piece:

"Our market capitalization is about $20 million today (not bad for a company less than two years old)."

Today's share price: $0.05 X 77 million outstanding shares= $3.8 million. That is less than the $20 million claimed, and it is less than their year to date operating loss of 8.7 million. Not good.

Next one:

"The stock has risen by a factor of four in the last two months; investors have made money."

This was published in the Statesman Sept 7, 2008.

That previous trading day, Sept 5th 2008, the stock opened at $0.22, hit a high of $0.25, a low of $.017, and closed at $.025. Funny how he claims a gain by a factor of four when the month prior, August 7, 2008, it opened at $0.40, hit a high of $0.40, a low of $0.30, and closed at $0.40.

But what is even more important, is where they are today: Opened at $0.05, high of $0.05, closed at $0.05- A true statement would be that the stock is now worth one fourth of what it was then.

Yes, lots of companies lose money- and lots of companies that lose money fail and go bankrupt. Go on any stock tracking site and look at the graphs and trend lines for AEHI- it ain't pretty.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=AEHI.PK&...

Concerning the Nuclear Power Plant:

I am not against growth in Elmore County and in fact would love to see more. What I am against is a recently formed corporation making statements/promises that they might not be able to keep. Their own company reports show that they are losing far more money than they are making. They are an unproven company that has no track record to stand upon. They are tackling a large project that more established companies have steered clear of.

I have formed this stance by doing my own research and have not been influenced by anyone other than the conduct of Mr. Gilespe at a meeting. He seemed not to care about the common citizens that had to sit through a presentation that lasted almost an hour. During that hour, he avoided giving direct answers to many of the questions posed to him by the board.

I will end here as I do not want to take up too much space on the BB as some have done. I said what I have to so and that is that.

Im my opinion, a project such as a power plant would not be a bad idea for Elmore County. I am in favor of things that provide jobs and boost the economy, but, the folks involved with this project are not trust worthy. I have been to the hearings and I have informed myself on these things, I do not need anyone else to form an opinion for me. At one specific PH in Mtn Home at the Jr High School I sat behind folks from the SRA, and I first hand witnessed their behavior...The sighs, eye rolling, and laughing as the applicants were testifying. They, IMO, did not represent the cause professionally. It to me was childish...and as far as Gillespie shoving one of the SRA's around, I seriously doubt that they would not have pressed charges against him if there was one ounce of truth to that story, but, I was not at that meeting.

Elmore County does need new and better ways to grow and change with the times. Some are against ANY kind of growth in MH!! Although, if the Nuke Plant had an arena to ride horses, or a Harley Shop in it Im sure some would be behind it 100%. And yes, I'll say it before she does, I do not live in MH so why do I care..blah, blah, blah.....

Beau....your talents are many. ;-)

OM

Your speaking in riddles again, meaning that I made a point that you can't disute.

OM, what do people at the VFW food line tell you when you go in asking them to sign one of your petitions against this or that?

Didnt think so. You look down on them, that much is clear from your post. Prove me wrong and go there to ask those peopel what they think about one of your plans.

WMG, as usual, you have misrepresented what I said. I think it is pretty disgusting that Mr. Johncox went into the VFW at all. I find it pretty sad that you would go into a room full of people who are unemployed and make false promises, or if you will, lie. I find that tactic to be pretty disgusting. However, this is how this company operates and the people who work for this comapny are disgusting. False promises and lies are not hope. So, which payroll are you on WMG as you dance around the facts pretty well? What is in this for you?

I did some googeling and found out this at www.idahowonk.wordpress.com, Johncoxs' blog.

OM, sounds like you think they should be too good to go to the VFW. At least someone cares enough. Those people need work and even if it takes years for the nucler plant, time goes fast. Why do you look down on the peopel getting food? Are you saying they shoundnt have a voice in the plant and get a chance to sign a petition about it? That's awful! Im sure in your desire to make this a better place you volunteer at the food distribtion so tell us about your plan for jobs. YOUR plan, not tearing down someone elses.

Are you sure Gillespie weighs 250 pounds?? I havent seen him but that is big. If he doesnt weigh 250 pounds that will be the latest time of many you got the facts wrong. People here say you exaggerate.

The SRA lady apologized for her "unprofessional" behavior. Sounds to me she was the one who has probelms controling her temper!

MARCH 24:

I spent today in Glenns Ferry doing community organizing (take that, Barack Obama!). One of my clients is Alternate Energy Holdings Inc., which has proposed a large nuclear reactor near Glenns Ferry in Elmore County, about 65 miles southwest of Boise.

I drove to Glenns Ferry eager to meet with residents, particularly local small business owners who are suffering since the loss of a potato processing plant and other local employers. My head was filled with facts and figures and enthusiasm for working to bring the stable, well-paying jobs that come with a power plant. The owner of a local gourmet foods store said if I really wanted to find lots of supportive people, I should go to the local VFW hall, where volunteers were distributing food baskets.

The desperation of many of the town's residents really started to sink in at the VFW hall. My first action was to hold the door open so an elderly lady could cart out boxes of donated food. Inside, people formed a line and passed by tables of volunteers to receive food. Yes, I got many people to sign a petition in support of the plant, but I felt empty. These were people of all ages, many abilities, with families and skills and great contributions yet to be made. What kinds of skills would be needed at the plant? several asked. As I ran down the list of typical jobs, I never wanted our plant to be up and running as much as I did then. Each one of these people deserves a good job and I kept them foremost in my mind as a continued meeting with other business owners throughout the day.

I also attended a Glenns Ferry City Council meeting today. Local officials in Glenns Ferry, from what I have been able to tell, strongly support our project and they realize the need for economic development. The meeting began with Liz Woodruff, a Snake River Alliance representative, briefly apologizing for her behavior at a meeting two weeks ago (I did not attend that meeting). At that meeting, AEHI CEO Don Gillispie updated the city council on our proposal and, from what a number Glenns Ferry residents have told me, her behavior included rolling her eyes, giggling, smirking and generally acting rude during Don's presentation to the council. I've seen her act that way at other public meetings, so it's a pattern.

Woodruff's behavior two weeks ago made an impression on a number of Glenns Ferry residents, so it is understandable she felt the need to apologize today for being "visibly upset" and acting "unprofessionally" (her words today to the council). She said today her "upset came from misinformation being spread" about our proposed reactor (in other words, her behavior was Don Gillispie's fault). I am pleased to report the audience accorded Woodruff the respect she should have given Don Gillispie. Glenns Ferry people - even those who disagree with our plans to build a plant - have at all times been polite to me.

As I sat through Woodruff's presentation, though, I kept thinking what she would have told the people picking up food at the VFW - if she would even care to go there - and what she is doing in her own community organizing work to bring more jobs to Elmore County.

It's easier to obstruct than construct, to tear down rather than build up, to lash out rather than listen respectfully. But that's not the kind of community organizing that's going bring people jobs, opportunity and industry.

Every new busness plan is a guess. You submit a plan, that plan get modified, reveiwed, modified again and then when it is complete you move forward. Once the final plan is in place you get all your information. The problem is you wouldn't belive anything they say becasue you don't like them, you don't want them here, and you like to think the worst in everybody, just because they haven't released every bit of information they have to you doesn't mean it isn't out there. They are not going to build this facility without a solid plan submitted to the right organizations. Guess what you are not the almight organiztion that they have to submit to.

justthefactsplease: lots of companies lose money when theyre getting started. Their goal is to build a nuclear plant, how are you suposed to turn a profit in the meantime? You cant. People invest hoping it will succeed. Maybe it will and mayeb it wont but thats how business works.

"It could be to that they are estimating because they don't know for sure just how many jobs will be created."

It is called guessing. This entire "plan" is one big guess. Do we not need to know how many reactors there will be? How much water they will use? Where the power lines needed will be located? Those are some pretty BIG questions to have NO answers to when people are making a decision on what to do. Seems like those should have been figured out BEFORE now. How can you make a decision on something when there are huge gaps in the information?

The construction people hired to build the facility will move on to the next construction project just like they do everytime a job is completed but they still had a job, therefore creating employment, the other people hired for a specific job will stay and perform that job. They may hire 5000 people or not but even if it is only 4230 it is still 4230 people who will be able to support their families. It could be to that they are estimating because they don't know for sure just how many jobs will be created. Most companies even hire more than needed knowing that not all are going to work out. Wall mart is Twin Falls is accepting applications for 300 some positions, if they end up only hiring 250 people are you going to go after them and say they lied or only this company.

Cash balance 12/31/08: 112,519.00

5,000 Jobs? 112,519/5,000= $22.50 each.

What else could they pay these 5,000 employees? Stock! (closed at .05 today)

THE COMPANY WILL PAY NO FORESEEABLE DIVIDENDS IN THE FUTURE.

AEHI has not paid dividends on its common stock and does not anticipate paying such dividends in the foreseeable future.

AEHI STOCK WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BE THINLY TRADED AND AS A RESULT AN INVESTOR MAY BE UNABLE TO SELL AT OR NEAR ASK PRICES OR AT ALL IF THE INVESTOR NEEDS TO LIQUIDATE SHARES.

This situation is attributable to a number of factors, including the fact that AEHI is a small company which is relatively unknown to stock analysts, stock brokers, institutional investors and others in the investment community that generate or influence sales volume, and that even if AEHI came to the attention of such persons, they tend to be risk-averse and would be reluctant to follow an unproven, early stage company such as AEHI or purchase or recommend the purchase of any of AEHI's securities until such time as AEHI becomes more seasoned and viable.

AEHI is a Nevada corporation. The Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS) provides that the articles of incorporation of a Nevada corporation may contain a provision eliminating or limiting the personal liability of a director to the corporation or its shareholders for monetary damages for breach of fiduciary duty as a director...

What "power plant"??? What Jobs???

read the whole report, like any businessperson should. Who will give them billions of dollars with this track record?

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

The mayor did not chew anybody from the SRA out or anybody in that room. So, you do not want to respond to the part where he pushed her? Or how about Martin Johncox going to the VFW while they were handing out food and asking for support for jobs? Yep, that is somebody I would want to work for. Nothing like a company with no money and no financial history. You think we would get the hint.

Well, since justthefacts is copying and pasting stuff from the company maybee I can too.

Elmore nuclear plant company to accept resumes April 22

Approval of the project will require thousands of trained workers of all skills

March 16, 2009

For more information, contact: Jennie Ransom, AEHI spokeswoman 208-939-9311

Martin Johncox, 208-658-9100

Alternate Energy Holdings Inc., the Eagle company developing a nuclear power plant in Elmore County, will be accepting resumes and letters of interest from people on April 22 in front of Mountain Home Junior High School beginning at 5 p.m.

"I get ten letters a week, unsolicited, for people who want to work for our company," said company spokeswoman Jennie Ransom. "When the time comes to build this plant, we are going to need to call on thousands of skilled local people, so I figured we might as well start collecting resumes."

Ransom and other AEHI volunteers will staff a table to accept resumes and letters of interest. People who submit a resume will be encouraged to attend the Elmore County Commission meeting in the adjacent junior high school auditorium and show their support for the proposal to construct a large advanced nuclear reactor in Elmore County.

"The commission needs to hear from Elmore County residents and Idahoans in general that our plant should be a priority for economic development," Ransom said. "The Treasure Valley has had to turn away major employers because of lack of energy. The plant would directly put people to work and allow other industries to come."

The company plans to hire locally and from Idaho as much as possible. Idaho State University can supply many employees trained in nuclear technology, while the large number of ex-military in Elmore County would be ideal for security and operations jobs. Other Idahoans are skilled in management, construction, maintenance and office work, Ransom said.

"These are stable, family-wage jobs that cannot be sent overseas," Ransom said, pointing to recent news coverage showing Idaho is the third most-stressed state economically. "The average wage in the nuclear industry is $80,000 a year and these jobs provide a great sense of accomplishment."

Ransom said the company is interested in letters of interest and resumes from people in the following jobs:

Administration - human resources, secretaries, admin assistants, clerks, managers

Attorneys

Auxiliary operator

Boilermakers, pipefitters, plumbers

Buyers

Chemists andchemistry technicians

Construction workers

Electricians

Engineers -- nuclear, civil, mechanical, electrical, industrial

Engineering technicians

Environmental compliance professionals

Facilities maintenance personnel - mechanics, instrumentation, HVAC, diesel, electrical.

Food service workers

Information tech specialists

Janitors

Laboratory technicians

Landscapers

Parts specialists

Radiation technicians

Reactor Operator

Receptionists

Security personnel - ex-military and Guard

Warehouse staff

The nuclear industry is very selective, however. Plant workers need high security clearances and must pass background checks and psychological tests. Ransom said the high number of former and current military personnel in Elmore County make it an ideal place for finding prospective employees.

AEHI's 2007 economic study found the plant would grow employment in Elmore and Owyhee counties by 25 percent and generate 4,230 jobs statewide during construction, including a total annual payroll impact of $839 million -- nearly 2 percent of the payroll in Idaho. It would also generate 1,004 annual jobs statewide during operation (estimated 60 years or more) with an annual statewide payroll impact of $57 million. It would also pay average annual wages of $80,000 to plant employees (267 percent of Idaho average) and pay would be $33,536 (112 percent of Idaho average) in industries indirectly affected (2006 dollars). Total annual labor income impacts in Owyhee and Elmore counties during operation would be $52.3 million.

Ransom said she was shocked at a Jan. 9 news release by an opposition group warning that one of the drawbacks of the plant would be "thousands of construction workers."

"There might already be hundreds, if not thousands, of construction workers in Elmore County, and the only difference is that they're unemployed and looking for jobs," Ransom said. "Until our opponents come up with a plan to put people to work, it sounds elitist and out-of-touch for them to complain about construction workers getting jobs in Elmore County or anywhere else. The lack of jobs and tax revenue is already straining county services."

Unemployment in the Elmore County has reached 7 percent, which is high for a place with a normally robust economy. Loss of jobs thousands of jobs at Micron, the closing of a potato processing plant, a poor Christmas season and fewer car sales are behind much of the unemployment. On March 7, the Idaho Statesman reported the Idaho jobless rate is at a 21-year high of nearly 7 percent, with some 53,000 unemployed; the state is expecting a 12 percent drop in tax revenue. Economists say joblessness will continue to rise nationally for the rest of the year and into early 2010, with the unemployment rate reaching 9 to 10 percent before it turns around.

Ransom said it could be a few years before large numbers of jobs commence at the AEHI plant, as AEHI must first obtain approval. Delays caused by the opposition, if any, will extend the construction start time.

However, even with no new plants under construction, the nuclear industry is already putting people to work. According to the Nuclear Energy Institute, "nuclear energy is one of the few bright spots in the US economy - expanding rather than contracting." An NEI report says the prospect of new plant construction in has already stimulated considerable investment and job creation among companies that supply the nuclear industry: "Over the last several years, the nuclear industry has invested over $4 billion in new nuclear plant development, and plans to invest approximately $8 billion in the next several years to be in a position to start construction in 2011-2012."

In the course of this, NEI said, "private investment in new nuclear power plants has created an estimated 14,000-15,000 jobs." The number of new jobs "will expand dramatically after 2011 when the first wave of these new nuclear projects starts construction."

5,000 Jobs?

AEHI's staff:

During the year ended December 31, 2008, Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services. During the year ended December 31, 2008, $120,000 of other compensation consisted of expense allotment for travel, auto, Idaho living expenses, entertainment.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, Ms. Ransom received 5,750,000 shares of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for her services. During the year ended December 31, 2008, $60,000 of other compensation consisted of expense allotment, travel, auto and entertainment.

AEHI, in their own words:

There is a risk that in the licensing process, further investigation and analysis could discover facts that would preclude development of the Site as planned such as unknown and unfavorable geological conditions on Site or endangered species habitat.

The monies raised by any private offering may not be sufficient for the continued proposed operations of AEHI. There is no assurance that additional monies or financing will be available in the future or, if available, will be at terms favorable to AEHI.

AEHI has achieved no cash flows to date, and management foresees limited cash flows until any property it permits and acquires is sold, leased, or the asset is merged into an entity that will finance, own and operate reactors at the Site.

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

LACK OF REVENUE HISTORY AEHI has never had any revenues. AEHI is not profitable and the business effort is considered to be in an early development stage. AEHI must be regarded as a new or development venture with all of the unforeseen costs, expenses, problems, risks and difficulties to which such ventures are subject.

Management expects it is unlikely the Company will be the ultimate owner or operator of any reactor to be built at any Site. The Company's purpose is to develop a site that will be suitable for the construction and operation of a reactor, which will require $3-4 billion in investment, and employment orhundreds of skilled people and an operating budget of hundreds of millions per year. Management believes that it is likely that any reactor at the Site will be owned and operated by a consortium or joint venture that would include nuclear reactor suppliers and reactor customers (i.e. electric utilities) with and AEHI participating as the Site and project developers.

Notice, I did not reference anyone in my post. But if the shoe fits....well...need I say more?

5,000 Jobs? How?

"the Company's significant operating losses raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern."

The Company has an accumulated deficit of $8,710,204 at December 31, 2008.

CASH - ENDING $112,519.00

The Company's continued existence is dependent upon its ability to raise capital or to successfully market and sell its products.

LOAN UNCERTAINTY

The Company may need to obtain loans to fund any amounts not funded by private placement subscriptions. The ability of the Company to obtain future financing, and the terms of such financing, has not yet been established. The Company does not have any loan commitments.

AEHI has limited funds and such funds will not be adequate to carry out the business plan without borrowing significant funds. The ultimate success of AEHI may depend upon its ability to raise additional capital. AEHI has not investigated the availability, source, or terms that might govern the acquisition of additional capital and will not do so until it determines a need for additional financing. If additional capital is needed, there is no assurance that funds will be available from any source or, if available, that they can be obtained on terms acceptable to AEHI. If not available, AEHI's operations will be limited to those that can be financed with its modest capital, and it could fail.

read the whole report:

http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

"Again, it's a comment, not your own blog post."

Oh...the "novel" police are out again.

Rule #7 -- Keep it Short

This is really an extension of Rule 6, make one point, but since it's possible to go on and on about one point, I thought I'd also remind you to keep your comments short. Again, it's a comment, not your own blog post.

Maybe that was "short" considering the facts and amount of information. See, on here you dare not cut anything out because when you do...you are called a liar or someone that only presents their point of view and not the entire story. If the person that posted was all for AEHI would the comment be the same? Probably not. Darn those people that research the facts!

Someone needs to read sas's "How to Write A Great Blog Comment" rule #7. :-)

How can you make 5,000 Jobs out of this mess:

Straight from the annual report posted March 31, 2009 http://idea.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/...

GOING CONCERN

The independent registered public accounting firm's report on the Company's

financial statements as of December 31, 2008 and 2007 includes a "going concern"

explanatory paragraph that describes substantial doubt about the Company's

ability to continue as a going concern.

ROTENBERG & CO. LLP, CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS

As discussed in Note 5 to the consolidated financial statements, the Company's significant operating

losses raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern.

NOTE 5 - GOING CONCERN

Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc financial statements have been presented on the

basis that it is a going concern, which contemplates the realization of assets

and the satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business. The

Company has an accumulated deficit of $ 8,710,204 at December 31, 2008.

The Company's continued existence is dependent upon its ability to raise capital

or to successfully market and sell its products. The financial statements do not

include any adjustments that might be necessary should the Company be unable to

continue as a going concern.

CASH - ENDING $ 112,519

As of December 31, 2008, AEHI and its subsidiaries had three (3) contracted full

time employees. Eight officers and directors provide certain services dedicated

to current corporate and business development activities.

AEHI and its subsidiaries are start-up development stage businesses. The Company

does not have any history of earnings.

LOAN UNCERTAINTY

The Company may need to obtain loans to fund any amounts not funded by private

placement subscriptions. The ability of the Company to obtain future financing,

and the terms of such financing, has not yet been established. The Company does

not have any loan commitments. Interest rates and other terms may also adversely

change.

AEHI has limited funds and such funds will not be adequate to carry out the

business plan without borrowing significant funds. The ultimate success of AEHI

may depend upon its ability to raise additional capital. AEHI has not

investigated the availability, source, or terms that might govern the

acquisition of additional capital and will not do so until it determines a need

for additional financing. If additional capital is needed, there is no assurance

that funds will be available from any source or, if available, that they can be

obtained on terms acceptable to AEHI. If not available, AEHI's operations will

be limited to those that can be financed with its modest capital, and it could

fail.

LACK OF REVENUE HISTORY

AEHI was formed in 2006 for the purpose of developing a proposed nuclear

biofuels complex in Idaho. AEHI has never had any revenues. AEHI is not

profitable and the business effort is considered to be in an early development

stage. AEHI must be regarded as a new or development venture with all of the

unforeseen costs, expenses, problems, risks and difficulties to which such

ventures are subject.

NO ASSURANCE OF SUCCESS OR PROFITABILITY

There is no assurance that AEHI will ever operate profitably. There is no

assurance that it will generate revenues or profits, or that the value of AEHI's

shares will be increased thereby.

LACK OF DIVERSIFICATION

Because of the limited financial resources that AEHI has and due to the nature

of the Project, AEHI will not be able to diversify its operation as discussed in

the document, immediately. AEHI's inability to immediately diversify its

activities into more than one area will subject AEHI to economic fluctuations

within the nuclear industry and therefore increase the risks associated with

AEHI's operations. AEHI does intend to diversify it operations to other areas,

including biofuels and potable water production, but it cannot provide any

assurances that these activities will happen.

IF AEHI BORROWS MONEY USING PROPERTY AS COLLATERAL, THE INVESTORS COULD LOSE ALL OF THEIR INVESTMENT, IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO BE FORECLOSED.

The terms of any loan may require payments to be made under the loan document.

Should AEHI fail to satisfy the terms of any loan, any Property pledged to

secure such loan may be at risk to foreclosure or other similar process to

satisfy the amount borrowed for the loan.

SPECIFIC RISK FACTORS RELATED TO NUCLEAR PLANTS

Management expects it is unlikely the Company will be the ultimate owner or

operator of any reactor to be built at any Site. The Company's purpose is to

develop a site that will be suitable for the construction and operation of a

reactor, which will require $3-4 billion in investment, and employment or

hundreds of skilled people and an operating budget of hundreds of millions per

year. Management believes that it is likely that any reactor at the Site will be

owned and operated by a consortium or joint venture that would include nuclear

reactor suppliers and reactor customers (i.e. electric utilities) with and AEHI

participating as the Site and project developers.

There is a risk that in the licensing process, further investigation and

analysis could discover facts that would preclude development of the Site as

planned such as unknown and unfavorable geological conditions on Site or

endangered species habitat.

AEHI has minimum liquid assets at December 31, 2008, and will be reliant upon

stock offerings to fund any kind of nuclear operations. The only capital

resources of the AEHI are its common stock.

The monies raised by any private offering may not be sufficient for the

continued proposed operations of AEHI. There is no assurance that additional

monies or financing will be available in the future or, if available, will be at

terms favorable to AEHI. (See "Business Summary")

AEHI may borrow money to finance its future operations, although it does not

currently contemplate doing so. Any such borrowing will increase the risk of

loss to the investor in the event that AEHI is unsuccessful in repaying such

loans.

AEHI has achieved no cash flows to date, and management foresees limited cash

flows until any property it permits and acquires is sold, leased, or the asset

is merged into an entity that will finance, own and operate reactors at the

Site.

AEHI estimates that the total cost of the Project will be approximately $68

million. The initial $68 million is planned to be raised via the Reactor Land

Development private placement that will convert to approximately 10% ownership

in the first reactor unit in the form of common stock. Any shortfall will have

to be funded through such things as debt financing, cost-sharing by contractors

and suppliers, or other private placement offerings.

AEHI intends to borrow monies or obtain financing if the Reactor Land

Development private placement does not raise the entire $68 million listed

above.

RESULTS OF OPERATIONS FOR YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31, 2008 COMPARED TO THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31, 2007

During the years ended December 31, 2008 and 2007, we did not recognize any

revenues from its operational activities.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, we incurred operating expenses of

$3,823,734 compared to $4,411,648 during the year ended December 31, 2007.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, we recognized a net loss of $3,820,601

compared to a net loss of $3,394,200 in the year ended December 31, 2007.

At December 31, 2008, AEHI had cash and cash equivalents of $112,519 and total

current assets of $193,936 and current liabilities of $32,259. At December 31,

2008, current assets exceed current liabilities by $161,677.

Net cash used in operating activities during the year ended December 31, 2008

was $1,263,267, compared to net cash used in operating activities during the

year ended December 31, 2007 of $2,727,908. During the year ended December 31,

2008, the net cash used represented a net loss of $3,811,883, adjusted for

certain non-cash items consisting of stock for services of $2,587,558.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, the Company issued 24,762,049 shares of

its restricted common stock in exchange for services of $2,587,558. Of such

shares, 19,750,000 shares were issued to officers and directors for services of

$1,975,000.

(1)During the year ended December 31, 2006, Mr. Gillispie received 14,800,000

shares of common stock valued at $14,800 for his services. During the year ended

December 31, 2007, Mr. Gillspie received 2,000,000 shares of common stock valued

at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services. During the year ended

December 31, 2008, Mr. Gillispie received 7,500,000 shares of common stock

valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services. During the year

ended December 31, 2008, $120,000 of other compensation consisted of expense

allotment for travel, auto, Idaho living expenses, entertainment.

(2) During the year ended December 31, 2007, Mr. Bucci received 500,000 shares

of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, Mr. Bucci received 3,500,000 shares of

common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for his services.

(3) During the year ended December 31, 2007, Ms. Ransom received 250,000 shares

of common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for her services.

During the year ended December 31, 2008, Ms. Ransom received 5,750,000 shares of

common stock valued at $0.10 per share as compensation for her services. During

the year ended December 31, 2008, $60,000 of other compensation consisted of

expense allotment, travel, auto and entertainment.

What happened at the Glenns Ferry council meeting a few weeks back? I heard the Snake River Aliance person was really rude and disrupting the meeting and the mayor chewed her out and she had to apologize to the council. Did anyone go there? What happened. The S.R.A. just seems really arrogant to me if that is true.

And remember the huge hurdles that AEHI has to clear before any construction is even started and then they have to complete that construction. I have some serious doubts about how sucessful they will be. I looked at their web-site and found nothing that speaks of any projects that they have completed. Anyone else have any luck with that? Maybe I am just missing it.

The thing that really irks me about what AEHI is doing as far as advertising for jobs, I believe they are telling folks to come out in support of this rezone application and they will be considered first for a job, IN 5 YEARS! Terrible!

Thanks SL for that info. What a time for this to come up...

dapperdanman

Thank you for confronting that person. He should be ashamed of himself and hopefully his boss reads this blog and will train him in the proper way to dispose of materials. Even though he says he knows obviously he needs further training or a new job.

dapperdanman,

Thank you Sir. It take s a great deal of character to be courageous enough to step up, and stand up to someone who does wrong in this world and you showed you are made up of the right stuff. Too often people nowadays take the easy way out and turn a blind eye to that kind of thing.

So thank you again and SHAME ON THAT PERSON FROM SOSA INSULATION!!

Beau, what's dadog been up to lately?

By the way, many on here would be amazed at little tidbits I've found in researching usernames. Are you, OM, going to make it a requirement for people 'involved' in the community to 'fess up all the blogs they follow or comment on? That would be a futile effort.

Like I've said before on this Banter Box; if you've said it anywhere on the internet, it's still out there for somebody to find. Especially if you use the same username on every blog.

Just be forewarned. Have a great evening, all!!

homedog,

I agree with what you're saying, to an extent. But, as long as certain people post their rhetoric, replies will ensue.

OM,

I don't recall homedog mentioning that other blog; I think he was referring to the BB. You've just got to drag more drama into the BB, don't you? And as for that other blog, you might not want to post on it, but you sure don't find it too "vile" to read, do ya? If you don't like it then don't read it! And you want vile? Look at some of your past posts.

"I believe the BB has become a weapon and that what was once a great source of info is now nothing more than a tabloid rag where facts are few and misinformation is much. It is sad."----------Again,,,POT/KETTLE.

And what do comments on another blog have to do with being involved in community events? Trying to sling a little mud? You would make a brilliant politician.

Again homedog,

I understand your point, but some things can't be left laying down.

For anyone that is interested in the article that Homedog is referring to, I've just posted it on my blog, and a link to The Grammar Girl's website. Good Stuff!! Thanks Homedog!

Since it's Sunday, can we all please spend a little time thinking about whether our thoughts are appropriate for the front page of this Web site before we post? Maybe we should take it to OM's blog... OM, Mr. Mister, yoB and Atomic Dog - I think you will really like the tips and the video on this page: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/how... Check it out! Have a great day everyone...

That's such good news about the food program getting some help! Thanks for info.

How about Life's Kitchen wanting to take on the Meals on Wheels for Ada and Elmore counties? I think that would be a wonderful partnership-everyone say a little prayer that it will happen!

Great news about the rebuilding of the Elks Lodge. I always enjoyed going there for parties over the past years.

Anyone see the crazy weather today? Sat sick and looking out the window which made me feel sicker. Hopefully spring comes real soon.

Ahhh, the suspense is killing me!!! Where is the response from PM.......

PM,

Of course you hit a nerve you idiot. When you lie about someone, it hits a nerve. MM has only ever RESPONDED to threats on my blog. Continue to defend your friend Aryewolf. It's ironic that this small issue and your small mind have served to put YOU under the microscope and I'm sure solidifying many opinions about your negativity. You and your windmill tilting had the benefit of the doubt that you will not enjoy any longer. The smugness and self-satisfaction at hurting a program that benefits the community is proof positive that you are a malcontent that only wishes to destroy. A vile evil thing that is to be detested and loathed.

Oh so sorry MM, it would appear that I hit a nerve or 2. And I disagree that the 2 do not go hand in hand. Your acts in "private" but on a public blog when in the public eye, are just as important as what you do outside the public eye. You should have used another screen name or not stated that you were one in the same over and over again. You made threats against another citizen as you stated he had done to you. I guess in this case 2 wrongs must make a right (in your eyes anyway). And...you put the info on the BB...you connected the dots for many of us. Good luck with your community work. You have reminded me time and time again how my words follow me with your snide remarks. Funny how things go full circle like that.