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Tuesday, November 20, 2007

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...continued from last comment, as far as its' relationship to the I-84 ramps. I live right nearby, and If you are coming into Mountain Home from the East, you would take the first Mtn Home exit (near the dump). If you are coming from Boise, you would take the First Mtn Home exit onto Sunset strip, go under the railroad tracks, left onto 3rd, rt onto 12th, immediate left onto S.10th E. (Daniels Rd.), and Roundup is about a half mile down on the Right. Its an unpaved road that used to be a subset of Smith Road, but after E-911 it was renamed to SW Roundup Way.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 11:44 PM

Roundup is off of Daniels Rd.(S.10th East)- on the South West side of the tracks

-- Posted by Rocklady on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 11:36 PM

Fight David, fight! Prayers and best wishes to the Freer Family. May David recover quickly!

Farmers are always tough and fighters---it is in their blood.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Dec 30, 2012, at 9:21 PM

You're right Trevor, it was asked for. Now that you've reminded me of that, I will offer an apology to Bazookaman; I am sorry for writing what I did, bazooka. I guess I let the past get the best of me. However, I sincerely wish a response to my question.

Thanks for your point of view, Trevor.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Dec 30, 2012, at 6:00 PM


Much to my chagrin, you still believe me to be a liberal--can't figure for the life of me why. I can only suppose that it is because I have differing opinions than you on occasion. That's okay boy, (even though I've told you countless times that I'm not), your opinions are obviously set in stone.

But I must ask a question reference your last post:

Why did you feel it necessary to post a street name? Trying to let me know you're aware of where I live?

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Dec 29, 2012, at 5:42 PM

mhg4316: Probably just to tick people off. LOL.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Dec 28, 2012, at 2:39 PM

Why is it anyones busines about complete strangers medical condtions after a traffic accident? I have always wondered about that....

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Fri, Dec 28, 2012, at 10:47 AM

MHres: I live just down the street from where the accident took place. From what I understand, the driver turning into his driveway is fine, (I know his family). One of the young people from the other vehicle was lifeflighted out and the other person from same vehicle was taken by ambulance. I have not heard officially what the condition of the people taken to hosptial is, but I would think they were critical due to the fact that lifeflight came out for one. This was quite an accident so am not sure why there was never any report about it in the paper.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Dec 28, 2012, at 10:28 AM

I heard there was a car wreck on Beaman Road on Christmas Eve. I haven't seen anything on the news or even on this Website. I heard through the grape vine it was a couple of teenagers speeding aggressively down the road and plowed into another car trying to navigate a turn into a driveway. My main concern was the status of the person who was innocently hit. And if any citations have been issued for the accident. I would appreciate any feedback.

-- Posted by MHRes on Thu, Dec 27, 2012, at 3:51 PM

Merry Christmas lilmiss! Hope you have a great day.

Merry Christmas to everyone. Hope everyone has a safe, wonderful holiday.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Dec 25, 2012, at 1:59 PM

The Lettkeman's wish you all a Merry Christmas from the land of the rising sun!

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Mon, Dec 24, 2012, at 4:29 PM

Merry Christmas Brenda to you, family and friends. Wishing you the very best for the New Year.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Dec 24, 2012, at 12:28 PM

MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and yours. May the Peace of the season be with you! B

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Mon, Dec 24, 2012, at 11:35 AM

Yep. Once again another Congressman thinks they are above the law. Time to get him out. He's had his his fair number of years in the govenernemnt. This is not just a lapse in thinking, this is just outright ignorance. Drinking and driving. What is he thinking? IDIOT.

Senator Crapo, when you can no longer lead by example, it is time to get out.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Dec 24, 2012, at 7:58 AM

Crapo gets a DUI! Another one bites the dust. Joins Larry Craig. Great job!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Dec 23, 2012, at 9:32 PM


-- Posted by Dave Thompson on Sun, Dec 23, 2012, at 9:11 PM


-- Posted by Dave Thompson on Sun, Dec 23, 2012, at 9:00 PM

Please let it end with the "Oregon" incident. Please tell me we aren't going to be continually subjected to the heroic exploits of our small town hero on the blogs again!

Really, one (infinite) time(s) is enough.

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Dec 21, 2012, at 6:41 PM

Christmas is a time of slowing down, and enjoying time with your family. For me Christmas is mostly about the young ones. Watching their excitement counting down to the big day. The joy and wonder in their eyes in the morning. I've always loved the joy of Christmas. I have a hard time sleeping Christmas Eve, and I'm always the first up in the morning. (I wake up my 6 and 7 year olds, is that sad? lol) I like to make everything tidy and perfect the night before, the perfect setting for opening presents.

This is my first Christmas away from Mtn. Home. The first time that Grandma, my Aunt, and Mom won't be preparing Christmas dinner for my family to come to. When it comes to "things", I'm not sentimental. Mtn. Home is only home because of the people that are there.

I'm terrible about keeping in touch. And I absolutely HATE talking on the phone. But my thoughts and heart are with ALL my family every single day.

I wish all my loved ones, and they know who they are, the most wonderful Christmas. Thank you for being the best family a girl could wish for.

I love you and Merry Christmas. :)

-- Posted by ktlm on Fri, Dec 21, 2012, at 12:26 PM


Isn't that like saying the kids were really stabbed to death with a 9" kitchen knife instead of the reported 18" machete?

What's your point here?

These people were killed by a nut; not by a caliber.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 3:58 PM

mhg4316 and OM...you scoop the News that is why you were censored.

-- Posted by justsayingtoo on Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 1:08 PM

The media stated in many news reports that most victims were killed by a 9mm. They have since changed the story. The Bushmaster is now the culprit. However, the 9mm remains the weapon of choice per this article. They need to ban stupidity and worry less about guns, IMHO.


-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 9:55 AM

What's your source MHResident?

-- Posted by Dave Thompson on Thu, Dec 20, 2012, at 9:22 AM

Right OM. Funny one can't comment on the actual story on here either.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Wed, Dec 19, 2012, at 1:48 PM

Funny how the "gossip" is now front page news.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Dec 19, 2012, at 1:13 PM


-- Posted by Dave Thompson on Wed, Dec 19, 2012, at 8:10 AM




Some would say that BM is less than truthful.




Did "it' hit the streets yet?


Go ahead and support him......sing his praises and kiss his butt......cut the throats of your grandkids...........I will not argue with ANY of you anymore out here.

I am hereby OFF THIS BLOG-NET, (which should charm several of you).

As a AMERICAN.........I have nothing more to say, until it hits the streets.

And I apologize for NOTHING!!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Sep 12, 2012, at 8:01 PM

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 1:45 PM

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Sun, Dec 16, 2012, at 4:35 PM


Please excuse the double post, but some things need to be addressed. The first is the original, the second is the same with response-- Apologies in advance...



"It is OFFENSIVE to see other veterans BACK POLITICIANS with communist agendas to sell this country out, and put it under the U.N. flag.

Did y'all FORGET the OATH?? Or did you just enlist to try to get an education and eventually a pension?

I dedicated MY service to OUR country and OUR way of life. And I put OUR country ahead of all others---both IN and OUT of uniform.

You guys should have joined the Peace Corps or something.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Nov 7, 2012, at 10:33 PM"



"It is OFFENSIVE to see other veterans BACK POLITICIANS with communist agendas to sell this country out, and put it under the U.N. flag."

---It is offensive to see "another" veteran hold himself and his opinion above fellow veterans with whom he disagrees.

"Did y'all FORGET the OATH?? Or did you just enlist to try to get an education and eventually a pension?"

---I dont think anyone forgets their oath. And a condescendingly supuerior attitude adds no weight to your argument. Why someone enlisted is none of your psychotic business. (but it begs question: do you enjoy YOUR pension?)

"I dedicated MY service to OUR country and OUR way of life. And I put OUR country ahead of all others---both IN and OUT of uniform."

---There in lies your dilemna--You still live IN your uniform. I also dedicated my service to my country (I don't remember anything about "way of life" in MY oath). But when I retired, I retired: I left trust in the military and those replacing myself and others retiring to continue to protect and defend us. And you know what, they've done a pretty darn good job thus far. They didn't need me to "carry on" with them. YOU think that you are needed for things to "carry on". You retired from the military, yet, you constantly portray yourself in a John Wayne manner. There is no "in" or "out" of uniform with you: You are Mr. Marine Mike! And with that mindset, you act as if yours is the only opinion that counts. You are ALWAYS touting your prior service--it's like you feel like you are owed reverence for your service. Other veterans still hold their belief and creed, but they don't feel the need to cry "I SERVED" to punctuate what they believe.

"You guys should have joined the Peace Corps or something."

---Not that I'm one of "those" guys, but, no thanks. I'm content with what I joined, and retired from.

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 10:30 PM

Wonder if anyone asked the paper to do a story about it, naysayer.

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 7:00 PM

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Sun, Dec 16, 2012, at 4:30 PM

Oooops. Usage...not useage. Darn it!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Dec 15, 2012, at 8:29 PM

Well.....There you go............undisputable proof .

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Sat, Dec 15, 2012, at 8:19 PM

Anyone with half a brain can tell that is not Buckshot's web page. What is written does not in any way, shape or form sound like Buckshot. And the language useage. Come on. What a cowardly act. That of a crazy person with too much time on their hands.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Dec 15, 2012, at 7:47 PM

Hey BS...61, Congrats on your new very own Website. Bookmarked it as one of my favs.

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Sat, Dec 15, 2012, at 4:13 PM

Just to clear up any misunderstandings, my posts have had nothing to do with the incident involving the women (mother and daughter I believe.) I know nothing about that. I was responding to another comment totally unrelated that has been apparently removed by the newspaper.

And my heart breaks for all those involved in any kind of way with the tragedy in Connecticut. I can't even begin to wrap my head around it.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 8:31 PM


I couldn't agree with you more on the children aspect. On the heels of the tragedy today over on the East Coast, it sickens me anytime senseless acts tear a family apart. On one hand we have a freak show that takes out his aggression on innocent kids that didn't have a fighting chance. Those kids were taken before they even had a chance to taste life, before they ever had the chance to realize what family is all about. On the other hand we have grown adults that should have known better. Those adults have been removed from their kids in the past and more than likely will be taken away again before their kids ever had a chance to appreciate what family is all about. Both the East Coast and the Mountain Home thing should have been avoided, and both end up scarring the family for life. I feel for the families that lost kids on the East Coast, and I feel for the kids that lost a family here. Personally, you are absolutely correct- my life hasn't been impacted by either of those tragedies. My life hasn't been impacted one way or the other, other than feeling a lot of pain (that can't be ignored, my issue) and anger (which I cant ignore either- my issue) over both events that senselessly tore families apart. I can only hope and pray that both events will come with some sort of support system to get them through the rest of their lives.

-- Posted by My-2-cents on Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 8:07 PM

Right to Know Folks:

Did these peoples actions damage you in any way?

We know how cruel Right to Know/Gossip folks can be, but have you ever considered there might be children involved in this situation?? And don't tell me the people involved should have considered this. Be a bigger person and leave it alone. We all know how cruel teenage children can be to others, especially when motivated by gossipy parents. I don't think thes kids need this right now. Lot of other issues you folks can discuss that won't harm young people. Lets be better people than that.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 10:28 AM

You would think that the individual would have learned from her daughter getting busted at Pioneer for same act. Oh, maybe she did learn..... just not the right way.

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 10:01 AM

Well shoot... if you don't want to waste your time fighting rumors or trying to figure out what is fact and what is fiction, all a person has to do is Google "Idaho Repository" or "Vinelink." That (Idaho Repository) takes you straight to the source of checking Idaho Court records, and background checks (for free), or arrest records and charges (Vinelink). They will even go so far as to share when their next court appearance is. I highly doubt the fine folks at Vinelink or the Idaho Court system would stick their neck on the line by creating fiction or publishing rumors. Nobody is trying to throw these fine ladies under the bus. It is more of an issue of utter disbelief that grown adults could continue to make poor decisions because they think nobody is looking. I stand by my initial view- at least these upstanding citizens can serve as a great example to our youth when it comes to things NOT to do. Maybe I am just twisted or biased, but I have always come from the school that crime does not pay.

-- Posted by My-2-cents on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 8:04 PM


[slan-der] Show IPA



defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander.


a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.


Law. defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc.

verb (used with object)


to utter slander against; defame.

verb (used without object)


to utter or circulate slander.

Mom and One of the last---it is only slander if it is not true. According to public information and records available...it would seem the facts are the facts. True there has been no trial on the second "event" but it would seem the Elmore County PA found there was enough fact/evidence to charge. Where there is smoke, there is indeed fire. We can pretend all we ant that this is a "cozy" little town. If you do not want to be tried in the village of public opinion---be a good person and do not become front page news. And in round one, the person did just that.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 4:57 PM

"Looking out for the reputation of our community". Hmmmm......

Where there is smoke there is fire. How much smoke does there need to be before someone goes to investigate to make sure there is no fire? Whatever happenened to folks who were passionate about their jobs, "investigative" reporters who were willing to investigate no matter whose toes they stepped on. They were not "press agents" for those who had sullied their own reputations. They were actually trying to protect their communities from corruption, not trying to help sweep it under the carpet. Why are some people more worried about protecting the reputations of those who apparently didn't care enough to do it for themselves?

Everyone is capable of changing, but one is still held accountable for their past indiscretions. If your past comes back to haunt you, you have no one to blame but yourself.

If someone holds an office that allows them to act on others indescretions, they should be able to handle an investigation into their own.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 3:49 PM

I feel the administration should really strongly consider the policies for the banter box. I have seen many times names posted in the banter box and the post is not deleted. Including my own name. I actually posted something in two different areas and one was deleted the same day and the other a week and a half later. NO hostility and all the facts were true. It was a opinion! So opinions of some are ok and others are not. I have seen bickering back and forth for a couple years. Whoever governs the banter box, I feel deletes opinions on a personal level. What happened to free speach. I can understand if it it can hurt integrity or someone's property. Truth hurts? Mountain Home news charges more money for the paper, we "try" to use the services offered to only have somebody in the office delete the post. By Brenda's post in the banter box was not one a rumor, it was not hurting the individual it was a question regarding positions and my opinon .........

-- Posted by BlackMagic on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 11:35 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Once we have published a name thru legitimate information sources or a person has made their own name known then it is open to all the "wonderful respectful adult opinions" we have out there. Until then we will delete. As always you are allowed to have all the "free speach" you want on your own web site. We delete duplications as we feel you don't need to say the same thing in multiple places. Believe it or not I do not spend 24/7 on the web site and banter box and things get overlooked or someone else brings it to our attention. And most assuredly things are not deleted on a personal level or there would be very little left to read sometimes. All people will NEVER agree on everything but you can be cordial and respectful in a disagreement and differing of beliefs or at least that was the theory. We will report validated news as it becomes available to us. We prefer you stick to the blog or article content when it comes to comments and the banter box is not the gossip column. I read almost every day but very rarely ever say or comment to anything. We review and discuss what is out there as frequently as possible. If you have a complaint or grievance with a business or individual you should take it up with them or where it is happening and not trash a person's name as an anonymous user name on a public web site. Thank you.

Kudos to the stand up job by MH News employees! Thank you for being on top of things! Happy Holidays and many blessings!

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 10:26 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
Thank you!! :) Merry Christmas to all of you also!! B

Thank you Brenda for realizing the definition of slander and looking out for the reputation of the community!

-- Posted by oneof thelast on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 10:25 AM

When we get something that is other than rumors and gossip we will let you know. We receive a police log weekly. That is what we have as legitimate information. Otherwise keep your gossip to yourself. I know we have a lot of Officers in the Know out there but legit is legit. Anonymous names and suppliers of information cannot be taken at typed value on a banter box. We simply will not let a name be slammed all over our website without it being substantiated.

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, Dec 13, 2012, at 10:09 AM

Hopefully the city does purchase the former LDS park off from 8th, at least this would be a great way to spend tax dollars!

-- Posted by Montague28 on Tue, Dec 11, 2012, at 7:05 AM

Debbyp64 your post is minus information that could be helpful in assisting you find gainful employment in the Mountain Home area. That said, I would encourage you to contact and work with the Idaho Department of Labor's local office, located on American Legion Blvd in Mountain Home. Although they are not the only resource for finding employment in Mountain Home or the Elmore County area, they are great people who can and will provide useful assistance in finding employment. The Department of Labor's office has many programs, resources and services available and are provided at no cost to you the job seeker, except, of course, for your time.

Best wishes for great success with your job search,

-- Posted by Albert Clement on Thu, Dec 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM

I have lived in Mountain Home since May of 2011. I got my first job here as soon as I went out looking, it was not a "forever job" and led me to another much better job, or so I thought. Eventually that job did not work out(it was a management position and I was really rusty), but I was living on my own by then and was not able to secure employment before leaving there, although I had been looking.

Anyway, it is almost 5 months and I have had only 2 interviews, although I have applied to all the places I am capable of working and even some for which I would not be qualified. People tell me it is hard to get a job in Mountain Home because I have had 2 jobs already. Now I am close to eviction, the electric bill (although not huge) is way behind, and I have to consider the real possibility of homelessness.

What do I have to do to get hired here? I have a ton of experience in food service and am not afraid to "flip burgers" for a living. IF anyone were to actually look at my resume they would see I have worked for 6 years in one place, 3 years in another. I am not a habitual quitter and I am hard working, ready, willing, and able to do what it takes to pay my rent. I am not looking for huge pay, I know I have to start at the bottom, but it seems as if I have been "blackballed". In a town where people come and go all the time it would seem someone who has no intentions of leaving would be desirable. I really just want to work, I am willing to learn, am smart enough, I can be trained. I just need a chance to prove myself. Someone throw me a line here, I do not want to drown!!

-- Posted by debbyp64 on Thu, Dec 6, 2012, at 10:35 AM

I called ITD regarding Sunset strip and they couldn't even tell me if it was their road or not. They gave me the Mtn Home phone number instead. I spoke to the Foreman in Mtn Home and he states they put the "patches on the road to hold it together until a project comes through to replace the road." As of today, there is no ETA on when the road might be repaired. He keeps turning in his report to ITD in Boise but hasn't heard anything back regarding a time frame for repair. At least the Foreman was far more informative then their head office on Boise was. I might as well of asked them about a road on Mars. Go figure.

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Wed, Dec 5, 2012, at 10:54 AM

I debated long and hard about saying before sitting down to write this comment. I know I might be criticized for saying this but want to speak my mind. I have seen many requests for assistance from people who either are legitimately or claim to be on hard times. These people ask for gift cards for their children from ages of 15 to 5 months and hardly ever provide a list of items. Then I see the same adult turn around and buy non-essential things such as video games, expensive jackets and protein drinks to name a few. Now I am all for helping those that truly need it and have done so many times in my 50 years. But to play the "I have no money to make my children happy" card then turn around and but these expensive items truly upsets me. Now unless I know that the person is truly in need, I am not offering anything. I will still continue to give to verifiable charity organizations such as the Youth Ranch etc. I strongly encourage you to make sure the person asking for assistance truly is in need and not just trying to get something for free. My Christmas wish is that karma will somehow repay in-kind those low souls that do this and properly reward those that continue to help those in need.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Dec 5, 2012, at 8:02 AM

This paper is completely biased, this message board is not a place where people can post their opinions even when following the guidelines. I find it deplorable that attention to problems with the city and county law enforcement offices cannot be posted because those screening what is written believe everything written is considered disrespectful. The law enforcement in this town needs to be cleaned up, this is a truth, I am not being disrespectful.

-- Posted by McCallumS on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 12:37 PM

Mom: I don't think that is a county or city street. Probably state.

-- Posted by skeeter on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM

I was wondering if the city or the county is planning on fixing the horrible chip seal attempt that was done on sunset highway? It has really bad ruts and if you catch your tire just right on it, it pulls you towards the other lane. I really think this should be fixed before the weather gets any worse and whomever did the initial work should really be put through proper training.

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 12:58 PM

Idaho doesn't need that outfit to get going again, and what makes it worse is he ran for Sheriff, some law enforcement that county would have had.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Nov 28, 2012, at 3:20 PM


So, while people are expressing their willingness to fight for their beliefs, you are criticizing their grammar/spelling?

Here's something to consider..."The more stupid people think you are, the more surprised they are when you kill them." I can't remember who gets credit for the quote; but, I personnaly remember it as "Never underestimate the enemy."

It's about Ideology, not government.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Nov 25, 2012, at 5:06 PM

I just took a look at the Idaho petition to secede from the United States. It has a glaring grammatical AREA. It says "to enact our own laws and here buy govern ourselves". Yes, they actually said "here buy" like they are buying something instead of "hereby".

Score -1 for the Idaho crazies who can show that they are crazy AND stupid in just a few sentences.

-- Posted by StephenYwhat on Thu, Nov 22, 2012, at 11:11 AM

It says area like you you are talking about a yard or something instead of "error".

-- Posted by jtrotter on Fri, Nov 23, 2012, at 11:58 AM

Your right, social security is not an entitlement but Obama is turning it into one. Obama believes everyone is entitled while Romney at least believes everyone should work for what they have. I work in that same system and see it everyday. Someone who has worked for years and no longer can but can't get social security but someone who just immigrates a month ago gets it.

-- Posted by hdrider on Tue, Nov 20, 2012, at 9:54 AM

I want my social security when I retire, it is not an entitlement, I have been paying into it for almost 40 years, why shouldn't I expect it.

Thank God Obama won, not that loser Romney.

P.S. Throughout the elections I heard "pray for Romney to win", Guess God thought the wiser :)

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Mon, Nov 19, 2012, at 1:31 PM

Did you know one of Mtn Home's oldest fraternal organizations turns 125 years old this weekend?!! The Rebekah Assembly of Idaho Guiding Star Lodge #4 is having an open house on Sunday! From 2-4 p.m. at 155 N. 3rd East - behind the video store, next to the barber shop. Stop by and visit! Learn the history and charitable works of the Odd Fellows and Rebekahs and show your support for this noteworthy group!!

-- Posted by mtnhomemama on Fri, Nov 16, 2012, at 9:11 AM

I find that Idaho has a petition to withdraw from the United States also.

Here's the petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitio...

Here's the article I got this link from: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white-...

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Nov 14, 2012, at 9:24 AM

Please excuse the double post, but some things need to be addressed. The first is the original, the second is the same with response-- Apologies in advance...



"It is OFFENSIVE to see other veterans BACK POLITICIANS with communist agendas to sell this country out, and put it under the U.N. flag.

Did y'all FORGET the OATH?? Or did you just enlist to try to get an education and eventually a pension?

I dedicated MY service to OUR country and OUR way of life. And I put OUR country ahead of all others---both IN and OUT of uniform.

You guys should have joined the Peace Corps or something.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Nov 7, 2012, at 10:33 PM"



"It is OFFENSIVE to see other veterans BACK POLITICIANS with communist agendas to sell this country out, and put it under the U.N. flag."

---It is offensive to see "another" veteran hold himself and his opinion above fellow veterans with whom he disagrees.

"Did y'all FORGET the OATH?? Or did you just enlist to try to get an education and eventually a pension?"

---I dont think anyone forgets their oath. And a condescendingly supuerior attitude adds no weight to your argument. Why someone enlisted is none of your psychotic business. (but it begs question: do you enjoy YOUR pension?)

"I dedicated MY service to OUR country and OUR way of life. And I put OUR country ahead of all others---both IN and OUT of uniform."

---There in lies your dilemna--You still live IN your uniform. I also dedicated my service to my country (I don't remember anything about "way of life" in MY oath). But when I retired, I retired: I left trust in the military and those replacing myself and others retiring to continue to protect and defend us. And you know what, they've done a pretty darn good job thus far. They didn't need me to "carry on" with them. YOU think that you are needed for things to "carry on". You retired from the military, yet, you constantly portray yourself in a John Wayne manner. There is no "in" or "out" of uniform with you: You are Mr. Marine Mike! And with that mindset, you act as if yours is the only opinion that counts. You are ALWAYS touting your prior service--it's like you feel like you are owed reverence for your service. Other veterans still hold their belief and creed, but they don't feel the need to cry "I SERVED" to punctuate what they believe.

"You guys should have joined the Peace Corps or something."

---Not that I'm one of "those" guys, but, no thanks. I'm content with what I joined, and retired from.

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 10:30 PM

Wonder if anyone asked the paper to do a story about it, naysayer.

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 7:00 PM

ditto, ditto, ditto

I am going off news grid as well

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 12:59 PM

Thanks Old Guy. Would be nice if the paper could do a story on that so people know.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Nov 9, 2012, at 9:23 AM

If anyone would like to make a non-perisable food or money donation to the ID Veteran's Home, Legion Post 26 and the Legion Riders will be accepting donations on Saturday (10 Nov) at T&V Marine from 9-2. All donations will be taken to the Home on 17 Nov. Any little bit will help.

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Nov 8, 2012, at 8:34 PM

No Headline Obama won the election?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Nov 8, 2012, at 11:58 AM


-- Posted by Montague28 on Wed, Nov 7, 2012, at 1:13 PM

I guess the President makes laws? PLEASE!!! why aren 't people asking their Congressmen and Sentors why we haven't a Fiscal budget for years, they currently draw $170,000+ and haven't completed anything except vacations. We're on the edge of a "fiscal cliff" because the elected officials who DO have the power to change things refuse to, because their only concern is what the Party wants, not what the people who elected them need or want!!

-- Posted by Montague28 on Wed, Nov 7, 2012, at 7:27 AM

A sad day for America. I guess all the people who want the free stuff won out. I have never been more disappointed to be an American than I am now. Hope you people who voted for more entitlements will someday realize it came at the expense of your freedoms. Be careful what you wish for.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 11:31 PM

Very heartbreaking for a country I defended for over 20 years. For what it is worth, 40 50 years ago, this would not have happened. We are a country of entitlement now. We were a proud nation. NOBODY wants gov in our lives. I want to live my life. I want to make my own living. I do not want to pay for someone else. Do you? For real, answer...that...question. Do you want to support someone that does not want to support themself? I guess so. Rome was destroyed from with in..............Obamacare here we come, hold on tight........

-- Posted by clam chowder on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 11:05 PM

America likes to be held down now, foot on our throat's. Your kids, your grandkids, your grandkids grandkids. Good Luck!! Feel Good!! Emotions defeat common sense...again. "i have never beeen more disappointed to be an american". The word "american" begins in lower case now.......

-- Posted by clam chowder on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 10:43 PM

More censorship?

Very telling.....but I consider the source.

Maybe it was the shifty 50 again.

Anyway....... It was pretty quiet on E 15 North.

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 10:39 PM

Did "it' hit the streets yet?


Go ahead and support him......sing his praises and kiss his butt......cut the throats of your grandkids...........I will not argue with ANY of you anymore out here.

I am hereby OFF THIS BLOG-NET, (which should charm several of you).

As a AMERICAN.........I have nothing more to say, until it hits the streets.

And I apologize for NOTHING!!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Sep 12, 2012, at 8:01 PM

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Tue, Nov 6, 2012, at 1:45 PM

He's about to pop--the ol' "you know who", that is. Can't seem to control himself with his irrational rants anymore. Just keeps blabbering and blabbering.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Nov 4, 2012, at 7:22 PM

Election Day is close. Hoping the elected County Commissioner will be Franklin "Bud" Corbus. He has always seemed dedicated and a man for any job.

His card reads as follows; Will work hard to keep citizens informed on all issues, Will strive for continued improvements between city and county governments, good listener with common sense approach, Fully supports the important relationship between Elmore County and the Mountain Home Air Force Base, Lifelong resident of Elmore County and Understands and supports the economic impact of agribusiness in the Elmore County Community. Good luck Mr. Corbus.

-- Posted by hey you on Thu, Nov 1, 2012, at 2:23 PM

Big THANK YOU to the many businesses, groups, and individuals that made the Parks & Rec Halloween Carnival possible. We always have a great time thanks to your generous donations of time and prizes. We live in a VERY generous community. Thank You!

-- Posted by I(heart)myboys on Thu, Nov 1, 2012, at 10:13 AM

Missing Harold... a 2 year old Male Chihuahu.

Answers to Harold. Super sweet dog, very loving. Last seen at 13th and 4th last night. Supposedly going into someones house.

Harold also had a doggie coat on him with a furry hood. 13th and american legion is the vicinity.Please Contact his owner if you have seen him at all..... timjones89@yahoo.com Thank You!!!

To see a photo of Harold please go to Mountain Home Classifieds on Facebook.. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...

Or Contact Tim at timjones89@yahoo.com. ANY NEWS GOOD OR BAD IS APPRECIATED... THANK YOU

-- Posted by workingbee on Sun, Oct 28, 2012, at 9:16 PM

And these people want to be the law makers, looks like most of them shouldn't even have a license;


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM

gmoney, take a closer look at the City Hall site there is more than one way to check minutes but it still may not fit on your laptop. On each one of the places you look at it also has a place to e-mail us, click on it and you can send an e-mail to them and ask your question.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Oct 25, 2012, at 8:10 PM

Just checked out the link for the new City site and could not find a feedback link. Please change the order of your meetings minutes from 2010 to 2012, to current year to archived. Maybe you have 25 inch monitors but I only have a laptop and your current layout populates beyond my screen and I can't open 2012 minutes. I don't know if any cares about 2 year old meeting minutes.

The other issue I wanted to address was Legacy Park. I see new walkways and new creek which look great but when you walk down to the bridge it looks like a cess pool of trash and pond scum and its been that way for a while. Its appears to be a very popular site for weddings etc.. So why can't the city clean it up. How about using the prisoners to maintain it.

-- Posted by gmoney on Thu, Oct 25, 2012, at 7:06 PM

There is no pool in the plan for Phase I of the "proposed" WECRD/YMCA facility. Phase II---MAY---contain a pool. Phase II may come around 2024 at the current rate of arrested development on this "project."

Just wait until they build it, blow through all of the money and then are unable to keep the doors open (or will not be able to afford to open the doors in the first place).

How do you plan to build something so far into the future when by law, one Board, can't put the next Board into debt? So if we could ever get a decent WECRD Board and that Board elects not to fund the "recreation center"---then what? True story. Could happen.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Oct 25, 2012, at 4:13 PM

Thoughts about the WERCD.

1. I wish the WERCD would do what they said they would when this tax passed many years ago and not use it as a personal piggy bank. I'm troubled that the WERCD will spend the tax dollars collected on repeated surveys and little projects that only benefit select groups of people (see batting cages).

2. We have a large older population as well as a poor crowd that can't afford or are not in the physical shape to be using batting cages and a youth center.

3. A community center with an indoor pool as suggested to get the tax in the first place would benefit everyone from young to old and from those that might require pool therapy. I guess I'm just getting tired of holding my breath and waiting for something to happen all the time they have their hands in my wallet. Wasn't a revolution started over taxing without representation? Let's change the word representation with ACTION.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Oct 25, 2012, at 11:44 AM

I have paid attention to the WERD district and the million dollars of tax payers money they have. I find it disgusting that a beautician, and 2 corrupt people are in charge of that much money. It is appalling to me. Anyone can call the YMCA for themselves and find out that their indoor pool does not pay for itself. The original idea behind the WERD was a temporary tax until a building/project could be completed then the tax would be dissolved. As long as the only people who show up are the church members of the current board nothing is going to change. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. That is what this town is doing by leaving the same people in charge.

There are other options that are beneath the current council. The WERD could of got the grant money for the old Kings Building and put in place a great rec center, creating a Central location from all schools, setting the rest of the tax money already collected into a bond for future upgrades. The Youth Center gets city money for their power, (phone.. and.. well, I hope you read the article and paid attention to what happened when the city took away it's funding) and are tax exempt.

If we took this same principle to a rec building (no pool) that gave a nice place for birthday parties, kids to go and have fun with more activities than the Youth Center, a walking track for the seniors, the building could become self sufficient, and the tax could go away.

As long as 3 classless women are in charge of this money they will continue to spend more on employment, IT support, and stamps (along with holding their own elections.. maybe that has finally changed.. when the one who signs the paychecks is up for the vote, the one needing that check somehow always counts in favor of the check signer, even if they have to skip other votes.. no one can prove me wrong or right) than on actual recreation.

Even when the board has an opportunity to provide recreation NOW, they would not. The last budget meeting I went to made me so sick I hope to see none of those women again. They didn't even have a budget planned if the YMCA called and said they were ready to go to phase 2. They have no idea what they are doing, and they get roughly 500,000 per year of YOUR TAX money. Someone had to tell them that the FDIC only insures up to $250,000 so they would not put it all in one bank. Then when it came time to take money out, they complained about the 3 months of interest they would loose. They wouldn't of even had the 3 months of interest if they weren't told what to do with it.

That's right. If those women had left all that money in one bank, and that bank went under, the million + tax dollars of YOUR MONEY would of been lost because stupid people have been left in charge of it.

If your frustrated with the state of the economy, worried that your only option is to choose the lesser of 2 evils come election day, you need to look further into how your tax dollars locally are working. It's not pretty. Get mad, get angry, and lets get something done that can make a difference for these kids.

I know it is easy to ignore the drug problem here in town. I don't want to acknowledge it's here either.. however, those kids need a place to go. If the WERD is allowed to continue down the path they see fit and no one intervenes, the kids who need this the most will be left out, because they will be charging a fee for attending. So, if your tax dollars to build a facility with the flooding piece of ground they bought you will have the luxury of paying with your own money (not just tax money) to join and use the building.

It is obvious to me that tax dollars are being used to build the elite a facility. If it were a facility for all, it would be free. Yes, I know, one of you are going to say, "there will be grants available" that is just a way to sound good, yet keeping the bad kids away from their kids. The kids with parents that work 2 jobs, just to make ends meat, won't be approved for that grant, although they don't have extra money to pay the membership fee. The kids with drug addicted parents: well, their parents aren't going to go fill out some papers.

I understand wanting to keep social groups separated, when my daughter went from private pre-school into public school she picked up some very bad habits.. I know that if the school was adequately staffed, the social differences wouldn't of been an issue. With 1 million +, grants and high interest bonds can support all the community needs with no more taxes. Ask the seniors, they have things figured out, we have a lot to learn from the generation ahead of us, if your egos allow.

This town needs a bus like the seniors have for public use. So private groups can rent it. The kids, 16+ should be able to go out to the Bruneau Sand Dunes and go to the observatorium, it's learning, sharing and having fun that their parents don't always have time for. It's hard right now, let alone being a single parent, between work, yard work, laundry, house work, when do they fit in the time for these things. I think it would be a huge blessing to this community if more people got involved and took an interest in the WERD. There are highly qualified people in this community who have morals to high to be corrupted by the power these current officials have. There are sensible people in this town, a lot of good people who care, donate, and give back without asking for anything. The least we could do is ask them for advice.

There is an entire generation of people who volunteered to make this town a good wholesome place to live, they spent their careers working with charities and with others to make this place a safe community for their kids, now their kids have no respect, have not continued in the family legacy and have given birth to more "give me" generations.

We have wonderful resources available to us. There are large groups here: Lion's Club just to mention one. There are 4 more in my mind right now. Can you name them?

-- Posted by honestabe2 on Wed, Oct 24, 2012, at 1:24 PM

For KTLM, don't lose faith in this little town. There is a lot of good here, who are too busy to comment on these pages often. But they are here, alive and well.

As in other things keep in your mind the things you love and let the rest go. You've heard me say similar before.

Leave your happy positive thoughts for those of us who appreciate them, others won't even notice.

But I do agree at times it's so discouraging

Never quit being positive!


-- Posted by jessiemiller on Tue, Oct 23, 2012, at 8:41 PM

Anyone that looks at the Mountain Home web site will need to update your site if you have it under your favorites. City Hall started reworking the site and I think it looks good and think other may like it also. This is the new URL for their site.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Oct 22, 2012, at 5:10 PM

Well I was going to poste something as a little tribute to this town... But after reading all previous posts I'm disgusted and disappointed. I'll find somewhere else to put thanks and happy thoughts.

-- Posted by ktlm on Sat, Oct 20, 2012, at 9:52 PM

I have been following the WECRD proposal to build a pool closely. Has anyone asked why the base is CHARGING for use of the base pool that used to be free? Just saying.

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Oct 19, 2012, at 7:02 PM

Cant justwatch and Opinion Missy,

Can't justwatch,

Your complaint was that the money for this indoor batting cage was coming from the school district. Well guess what it isn't. All three baseball clubs are trying to improve their facilities so the KIDS have some where to practice instead of out in the wind and rain in February and March when they are preparing for their upcoming season. They are trying to put themselves on an even playing field with pretty much ALL the schools and programs up in Boise. They are trying to build programs that this TOWN can be proud of. Maybe you ought to venture out of this little town and see what other towns that are the same size or smaller have to offer their kids. It is very sad to go to all these different schools and see their wonderful and modern facilities and then come back to our facilities. All these kids want is a place to go indoors and hit, pitch and maybe practice some fielding out of the weather. That is not a lot to ask. . Mark Cotton, Robert Woodruff, and Ryan Miller and a list of others have done a great job fund raising and working to get this done. I applaud them and thank them for everything they have done.

As for the maintenance of the building, it is a prefab metal building, not too much to maintain. I am not sure who owns the property, I have heard it belongs to the city, so if that is the case, the city would be the ones maintaining it. Again I am not sure. I do know that the teams help maintain their fields. So I am sure that they would be partially responsible for some of the upkeep.


Are you really going to complain that the WECRD actually let money go for recreation in this town? Funny, I thought that was what they are supposed to do. So they had to have a board meeting approve it. Would you rather they just hand the money over blindly? Nothing will make you happy concerning them. They are darned if they do darned if they don't with you. Yes, I know everything they have done and I don't agree how they do everything, but at least they did something that we elected them to do!!!! So what if they want a photo op? Who cares? That is a little petty. That select group that you are complaining about is a pretty large part of this town and those kids, well, hate to sound a little cliché but they are our future. Maybe you ought to come out and enjoy a game and support the kids while they are playing and see where some of the money went. You might actually find yourself recreating.

-- Posted by MHMomof 3 on Fri, Oct 19, 2012, at 4:45 PM

Crew 25, if you knew the facts that surround the WECRD, you would not be so happy. You have lived here for 12 years. You have been taxed for 12 years for a recreation facility. Do you see a facility?

"Assuming" that the people who post on here "just sit on their butts and complain" is really not a fair statement. Many of us who post on here also donate many, many hours (and money) to this community without the need for a photo op or big old bill board on the football field.

If you knew the true facts surrounding the WECRD and their "plan" you would also be outraged. Do your research and get the facts. Then maybe judge the rest of us. Just a thought. There are more community leaders in MH who do NOT support the current WECRD Board and the path that they have been on than those who do support the WECRD. Call Alan Bermensolo, the Mayor or Stan Franks with Parks & Rec., they can explain it all to you.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Oct 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM

From the August, 2012 WECRD Meeting Minutes:

E. Mark Cotton, Robert Woodruff, and Ryan Miller present request for grant funding for an indoor batting and pitching facility that will accommodate the Mountain Home High School baseball and softball teams, American Legion baseball teams, and Elmore County Youth Baseball teams, as well as Glenns Ferry participants. The facility will provide year round opportunities for baseball/softball training for ages 4-18 including tournaments. See attached grant application for details.

Amount requested: Ten thousand dollars ($10,000)

Amount already secured: Thirty-eight thousand dollars ($38,000) from several community sources.

Total cost of project: Forty-five thousand dollars ($45,000)

MOTION: Pres. Borgholthaus moves that the WECRD approve the grant request to fund the indoor baseball facility in the amount of $10K. Second by Dir. Sessions. Motion passed. The check to be written to the MHHS baseball program.

Mark Cotton: Thanks the WECRD for the funds and will promote the building of the Y, too.

Dir. Marsh: Asks Brian Orban for a photo op.

Nice to know it is always about a "photo op" and "billing" for the WECRD. Nothing is EVER done by Mollie Marsh and Jana Borgholthaus because it is the right thing to do. The WECRD by law is to provide recreation for ALL in this community---not a select group.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Oct 19, 2012, at 2:02 PM

The WECRD contributed tax payer money to the project---10K I think (it is in their Minutes). Nothing is free. We ALL pay one way or the other.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Oct 19, 2012, at 12:44 PM

Can'tjust watch, please do your reasearch before you start complaining about what is going on with that indoor batting cage. The money raised for that was done by the High School team, The Royals, and the Babe Ruth teams. No money from the district is going to be used.

-- Posted by MHMomof 3 on Thu, Oct 18, 2012, at 9:13 PM

Well said, MGMH. Thank you.

I get tired of the way a person, no matter who it is or what the allegations happen to be, is judged, convicted and sentenced as soon as the news hits the public. I had no idea that the investigation began in May and apparently neither did a few other folks in town when news of his arrest (I understand he turned himself in), hit the airwaves last week. I asked my son (16 years old)about it and he told me exactly what I read in this paper.

-- Posted by sas212 on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 4:41 PM

To MHresident: Whether or not they report on the charges filed against Grant Bothen, it's important that every parent teaches their children about sex offenders. Mr. Bothen is not the only child predator in the town of Mtn Home, let alone the state of Idaho. Parents, please be cautious and educate your children to be aware of predators out there.

-- Posted by MGMH on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 5:26 PM

I've always believed in diving in head first. Not always the smartest thing to do, but I surface quickly.

-- Posted by sas212 on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 12:36 AM

Seems like you had no problem jumping right back into the foray of the soap opera with the same character.

Be careful with those glass homes.

-- Posted by MrMister on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 9:05 PM

So from the article you posted, Old Guy, he hasn't been in a classroom since MAY.

MHR...feel better?

He lives in Eagle and by the way, he's not on the sex offender list.

He hasn't gone to trial yet, hasn't been convicted or sentenced yet.

-- Posted by sas212 on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 4:56 PM

Found this on another site: http://www.ktvb.com/news/Eagle-man-arres...

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 4:39 PM


-- Posted by sas212 on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 4:27 PM

WHY? So he can be tried, convicted and hung by the readers before he even goes to trial?

Word of mouth is enough in this town to get the news out, obviously. Want to volunteer for that job?

I'm sure the school will send out some kind of notice and if anyone has any questions then call the School District office and ask.

-- Posted by sas212 on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 4:10 PM

wow...it's been a long time since I checked in on the happenin's in the banter box...just like an old soap opera...you can skip a year or two and come back and it's the same characters and basic story line. hahaha!

-- Posted by sas212 on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:20 PM

Midea: The City posted about the "Sharrows" (bicycle use) on their web site if you would like to take a look.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 1:41 PM

Finally figured it out--He's a narcissist!

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Oct 6, 2012, at 3:48 PM

WECRD Secret Meeting on Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 6:30 p.m.---WECRD Office. This meeting is not open to the public but the "invites" were on WECRD letter head and tax dollars were used for the mailing as well as the "study" and one Board Member will be in attendance.

There was an article in this paper last week that indicated that members of the public who were interviewed by Shaw Snow for the most recent "study" would be invited. It would appear, based on those interviewed, that some of those invites must have been lost in the mail and only select people were invited (WECRD letter dated on/about September 14, 2012).

More WECRD games. Closed meetings and backroom deals.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 3:54 PM

Anyone have the information from a past edition for Afghans for Hope? I had them make one for my spouse and want to thank them.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Sep 26, 2012, at 9:28 PM

Scratch that the missing owner has been found.

-- Posted by maybeso on Tue, Sep 25, 2012, at 9:22 AM

Anyone missing a dog.

A friend has FOUND medium size dog on wasatch dr.

-- Posted by maybeso on Tue, Sep 25, 2012, at 9:09 AM

A district audit, by an outside accounting firm, is a good idea for all school districts, in my opinion.

-- Posted by doglvr on Tue, Sep 25, 2012, at 7:57 AM

Does this ring any bells in this school district.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Sep 24, 2012, at 5:30 PM

....and I thought that the summer re-run season was over.

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Mon, Sep 24, 2012, at 2:39 PM

PaleAle/Observer=SPOT ON!

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Sep 22, 2012, at 7:27 PM

Happy Birthday USAF.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Sep 18, 2012, at 8:55 PM

I had a close call today while riding my motorcycle home. I highly doubt the young person that decided to pull out into the left lane of a 65mph road saw me. Luckily my brakes work great and the car to my right sped past. The young person pulled out and decided to only go about 35mph because they wanted into the right lane. It would have made more sense to wait till I went past and they could have used the mile of empty road behind me to pull into whatever lane they wanted. Please be careful out there. We motorcycle riders are still out there. I know there are some riders that do not ride smartly but there are far more us that do. I try to always leave an out and luckily it came in handy today.

-- Posted by Old guy on Tue, Sep 18, 2012, at 4:20 PM

Didn't think so.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Sep 17, 2012, at 9:44 PM

Mr miser

The one thing the explanation had in common for both motorist and bike rider was:

Follow the rules of the road as if there were no sharrows.

The Cities sharrows are in the center of the traffic lanes which is different than the Idaho rules of the road.


(1) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as close as practicable* to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

(a) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.

(b) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(c) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions including fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals,

surface hazards or substandard width lanes that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge.

(2) Any person operating a bicycle upon a one-way roadway with two (2) or more marked traffic lanes may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of the

roadway as practicable*.

I have always taught my kids to ride to the right not in the center of the street.

This is why I asked the Question.

-- Posted by gmoney on Mon, Sep 17, 2012, at 12:06 PM

MrMister: Obviously I wouldn't have asked if I fully understood. So now; since you know exactly how this is supposed to work, would you be so kind as to answer my exact questions?

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Sep 17, 2012, at 10:31 AM

Really??? Can you not read an explanation and understand it? C'mon,,, lets show there are some in town that have some common sense!

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Sep 16, 2012, at 6:34 PM

So who does have the right of way on the roads with the sharrows? Should the bikes move over when a car approaches? Are they REQUIRED to move over and yield when a car approaches?

Actually, this might be a good interview for the paper to do with the police department and print it in the paper to educate all of us who don't understand HOW these work.

-- Posted by midea on Sun, Sep 16, 2012, at 10:38 AM


Thank you for the explanation. But I'm still confused as to the right of way. So the safest route for bike traffic is now the center of the lane and not the side of the lane. Is that because more accidents happen when bikes hit opening parked car doors than moving vehicles?

I looked up the origin of sharrow, nothing good has ever come out of California. Maybe they used more of the cheap paint like on the crosswalks and the markings will wash away over the winter.

I think bike paths are great for new commercial and residential areas where you can restrict street parking but for established areas they are safety hazards because they give bike riders(kids)a false sense of security. How often do you see kids walk onto a street in a crosswalk without looking for cars.

I hope I'm wrong and no one gets hurt.

-- Posted by gmoney on Sat, Sep 15, 2012, at 8:28 PM

Mr. Clements,

Therein lies the problem. When it takes multiple paragraphs to explain a couple of symbols, there is bound to be confusion. And probably most of the unsafe drivers don't read this board, or understand what "sharrows" are.

One would assume that during these tough economic times, the city would spend their money more resourcefully. Oh wait, if they need more money for their pet projects, they can raise taxes.

-- Posted by victoria475 on Fri, Sep 14, 2012, at 1:20 PM

Gmoney -- good question.

Shared Lane Pavement Marking a.k.a Sharrows

Shared lane pavement markings (or "sharrows") are bicycle symbols carefully placed to guide bicyclists to the best place to ride on the road, avoid car doors and remind drivers to share the road with cyclists. Unlike bicycle lanes, sharrows do not designate a particular part of the street for the exclusive use of bicyclists. They are simply a marking to guide bicyclists to the best place to ride and help motorists expect to see and share the lane with bicyclists.

What do sharrows mean for motorists and bicyclists?


* Expect to see bicyclists on the street

* Remember to give bicyclists a minimum of three feet of space when passing

* Follow the rules of the road as if there were no sharrows


* Use the sharrow to guide where you ride within the lane

* Remember not to ride too close to parked cars

* Follow the rules of the road as if there were no sharrows

Above is a very general guide to the bicycle symbols, sharrows, now marking some of the streets around Mountain Home and as you can see are meant to remind all motorists they are sharing the roadway with others, such as bicyclists. It is an especially important reminder around the community schools as many of the students travel to and from school using their bikes. With the dark hours in the morning around the start times of the local schools we as motorists need to be especially alert to bicycle riders and pedestrians proceeding to or from the school areas.

If you have additional concerns or questions I would encourage you to contact a member of the City Council or a member of the Mountain Home Traffic Safety Board via Mountain Home City hall at 587-2104.

Albert Clement

-- Posted by Albert Clement on Thu, Sep 13, 2012, at 4:44 PM

Can someone explain how these bicycle symbols on the roadway are supposed to work. Are all these roads now bike paths and bikes have priority to drive down the middle of the street at 5 MPH while traffic piles up behind them. I'm all for bike paths but this seems even more unsafe then not having a path.Sometimes the city council needs to say NO to stupid ideas. What are the statistics on bike vs car accidents in the city?

-- Posted by gmoney on Thu, Sep 13, 2012, at 2:23 PM

Yes---Joe B. supports his community! Was he not on team "No Limits Christian Church" and helping the City of MH lighten their checkbook in a law suit? Yep, great at supporting his community. Always the double talking, smooth politician. Was he by chance on their float?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 9:27 AM

Joe B is in the parade every year. AFAD is a very important event to him. I wouldn't call it living in the past, just showing his support for the community that supported him throughout his term as Mayor.

-- Posted by MtnHomeCtzn on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 10:33 PM

Dudring the AFAD parade.........Was Joe B running for mayor again or just living in the past?

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sun, Sep 9, 2012, at 1:18 PM

In regards to the bus driver, I hope that people pay attention to your letter in the paper. I was stopped one time at a cross walk by Hacker Middle School and a driver who had been behind me, decided he didn't want to wait and went to go around me and almost hit two children in the crosswalk. I looked over and he looked to be a teen driver with some friends in the car. I'm not saying it's only teens who do this, I've seen adults do the same thing.

On another note, I was at the drive through window at Subway on Air Base Road and I witnessed two young boys who pushed the button to cross the street. I thought they were just going to cross and be done, they did not. They proceeded to press the button at each corner and kept crossing the street to the other side, making the full square and were still doing it when I pulled away. That is an extremely busy intersection and NOT a place where anyone should play.

Seems some adults as well as children need a bit of education on safety on the streets. Let's hope the letter brings some attention to the problems.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Sep 7, 2012, at 8:00 AM

Mrs. Parsons, a bus driver, posted a letter in the opinion site. What happened to her at the cross walk has also happened to me, not only on airbase road, but also on American Legion Blvd. I too have almost seen someone run over because another driver could not wait or stop at the cross walk.

To be honest, I would encourage the Mountain Home Police department to monitor these cross walks a few times, stop people, ticket if needed and then maybe, just maybe, drivers will begin to pay more attention in those areas.

There is no reason to zoom through a cross walk when other cars are stopped there, or when people are WALKING IN THE CROSSWALK.

Go ahead, MHPD, make our day, possibly save a life, hand out the ticket. It may be worth it in the end.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Sep 5, 2012, at 10:22 AM

He could have candy coated what is going on, but he didn't.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 8:12 PM

So, has he never shown honesty and integrity before? Or is it that he writes something you agree with that shows his "honesty and integrity"?

-- Posted by MrMister on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 6:05 PM

I agree. I do believe that this needs to be disbanded and a decision needs to be made to inject this money into the recreation facilities we currently have. We have the Youth Center and also Parks and Recs that would benefit from this a lot. From what I understand the CLDC that was supposed to work between the WECRD and the Y disbanded. It is time to quit beating a dead horse and change direction completely. I am very pleased that Kelly showed honesty and integrity in his blog regarding this situation.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM

Midea, I agree with you. Check out my post on Kelly's editorial. I still think that a town of this size needs a rec center for it's residents. I just don't agree with the way the project has been handled by past and present WECRD Directors. It shouldn't have taken this long to get a center built.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 1:07 PM

Second Wind,

First, read Kelly's blog today. I don't normally agree with a lot of his thinking, but I know that he has finally gotten the picture on this fiasco. Secondly, get involved and try to get copies of studies and go back in the history and look at what has transpired. You too will get tired of trying to acquire info or waiting for action to be taken. When this was first voted in to tax to the community for it, our children were all young. Today, they are grown and moved on and once again the WECRD has delayed action on the last report study as you will see from Kelly's report. You go and get firm information from them and see if they stick to what they tell you. I think you will understand the garbage that has gone on with this mess from the beginning and begin to feel the frustrations of many.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 10:16 AM


And aren't you trying to convince people to support your view with your comments?

The last time someone tried to disband the WECRD, they started a petition drive but couldn't get enough signatures. Looks like there's still a lot of people in the community that would like a Rec Center to be built here. Sorry if you would never use it or can't see the value in it, but you're in the minority.

Man, I hope your wife isn't reading your comments.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 8:20 AM

Sekund wynd,

Thanks for your reply. However, I suggest you may have misinterrpreted my intent:

I don't play with my dogs...I work with them.

I don't drink to feel better...I drink to forget.

I am not anti-social...I'm a-social.

I'm don't suffer depression...I merely express disappointment at being forced by fate to deal with stupid people.

If your plan to improve your life is to convince different minded folks to pay a tax to support your point of view...then go for it. Just vote.

The last time I tried to improve my life through exercise and meeting other people, I danced all night with a stranger at the "El Rancho." I wound up getting married...a steep price I wouldn't force on anyone seeking a self-improvement exercise.

Democracy: Your ignorance has as much value as my intelligence. AKA, one man, one vote.

I vote not to pay another dime to support a failed idea.

BTW, the people I've met in this community make me have more respect for dogs.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Tue, Aug 28, 2012, at 7:43 PM

Hey there Used to live in MT Home,

Speaking of English...last time I checked MT is Mount.

Wonder if the woman who brought her child to the meeting realized the man sitting across from her is a registered sex offender. Guess whether you register as a republican is the only thing anyone is concerned with on that committee. The video was rediculous. Waste of time that these people get paid for....

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Tue, Aug 28, 2012, at 1:45 PM

BNeal: Once again in English this time, please.

-- Posted by Used To Live In Mt Home on Tue, Aug 28, 2012, at 11:36 AM

The republican comitteemen in this county consistantly push to have the most radical people put up as candidates. The commitee chair at this point has lost two consecutive elections to the commitee but the good ol boys installed him as the chair anyway. (They had a secret ballot to ensure transparency, or transindentalism or some such, whatever it is that those secret ballots ensure. Oh yeah.....they ensure secrecy.) Taught him the secret handshake and butt grab too. Could be the new gavel boy is a step up though. The previous chair was a registered Democrat. Lord only knows what kind of inbreeding that fostered. But at least theres no registered sex offenders on the Republican commitee right? At least theres no drunk drivers on the commitee right? I mean right? Because if a comittee of elected officials, chaired by an unelected and, anointed by the ex use to be democrat chair, had a sex offender and a drunk driver in their midst one would wonder what kind of leadership they're churning out. The truth is the only thing they are turning out is a facist agenda so that they can control the ballot and who runs on it. IMHO

-- Posted by BNeal on Tue, Aug 28, 2012, at 10:14 AM

Junkyard Dog,

You sound like a depressed, anti-social person. Not everyone feels the same way that you do, as evidenced by the fact that a majority of voters voted for the Rec District and keep voting in the Directors who are supposedly trying to make a Rec Center happen.

Go play with your dogs and drink to feel better. Other people would like to take a more positive route to improve their lives like exercising and meeting other people in the community.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Tue, Aug 28, 2012, at 9:15 AM

C'mon folks,

You're being sucked into the vortex created by people who think you will be willing to pay for something you are not going to use.

Here's a thought: If a buck could be made by setting up a Rec Center, don't you think some PRIVATE entrepeneur would have taken a shot at it by now?

There's a reason I don't support the golf course...I don't play golf.

There's a reason I don't support the WECRD...I don't swim in a pool, weight lift, Pilates, aerobisize, or play raquetball,etc.

I walk in the desert to exercise my collies...I swim in the lake to retrieve my crawdad traps...I drink to make people interesting.

I'm with Missy... The WECRD is a wreck...Dump it.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Aug 27, 2012, at 5:34 PM

It could be self sustaining if the WECRD board had not gifted away over 50 percent of the taxes collected so far.

-- Posted by gmoney on Mon, Aug 27, 2012, at 12:58 PM


I gave you some info under the story for the Y/WECRD.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Aug 27, 2012, at 8:48 AM


I appreciate your opinion, but I was wondering about the last study that was done and what it revealed. Thanks.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Aug 27, 2012, at 8:35 AM

self sustaining.....? Personally I think that's a joke. Too much for the population. When they find out there is also a door fee......they'll flee. I just don't see that ever being self sustaining untill Mtn. Home's population hits 100,000,

-- Posted by goatbeard on Mon, Aug 27, 2012, at 7:19 AM

Regarding the WECRD - Does anyone know what the last study revealed? Was it deemed to be self sustaining or are they going to have to continue taxes and raising other monies to keep it going? Anyone heard?

I ask because I see they are wanting to raise more money again in order to build.

-- Posted by midea on Sun, Aug 26, 2012, at 4:13 PM

@Northside .... I will agree that it is less than responsible (bad apples) in the OHV community just like there are in a lot of different communities of individuals. I wish I could say that the type of behavior you have described doesn't happen, but I know it does as I too have seen some of the same things you have talked about. Years ago OHVs were allowed to go cross country legally, however today the USFS now has a Motor Vehicle Use Map for each forest that outlines the trails that are approved for OHV travel and cross country travel is NO longer legal. As the President of the Mountain Home ATV Club, I always take the opportunity to educate OHV enthusiast on proper trail etiquette when I see users not acting responsibly. Unfortunately there is less than 2% of the OHV community that belong to organized groups and as such they don't keep up-to-date on the latest changes affecting the OHV community. With the change back in 2007 in regards to licensing of OHV's, which the organized OHV groups helped pass you are now required to have a restricted plate if you operate on a USFS road, (you are exempt if you operate only on ATV trails, but hard to get to a trail without using a USFS road) I encourage you to report OHV users to the local authorities, whom you witness doing irresponsible acts.

-- Posted by RustynMtnHome on Mon, Aug 20, 2012, at 8:24 AM

Not sure why folks are jumping on JYD for his comment about, well let's just say "less than responsible" OHV riders. I don't spend much time on the trails in the spring and summer, maybe 4-5 days to go up and scout, but I do spend a lot of time up in the mountains in the fall, from archery season till late rifle. And though I don't really "get" the whole ATV/trail bike crowd it is public land and folks can do as they please. I have no problems with that. It's just that in my experience it's not just a "few bad apples", it's a very large portion of the off road community. And it's not that they're fat or lazy, it's mostly a willful disregard of OHV regulations. I see examples of it pretty much every weekend I'm in the mountains. When I hike an hour and a half into a spot that I'd glassed elk, only to have a couple dirt bikes run right through the middle of my setup, miles from the closest trail ( and this is noted on the access road and on all trail maps as a "ride only on designated trails" area) I'm going to get mad. When I hike in, then watch three ATVs ride across the ridge above me only to get back to the trailhead that evening and find that they'd ripped out the "no motorized access" sign, I'm really frustrated. When I'm actually standing at a "no motorized access" sign and watch three teens on dirt bikes ride right past it into the wilderness with complete disregard I'm going to be pissed off. And these are just a fraction of what I've witnessed in the last couple years. From what I've heard, albeit secondhand, the fire wasn't started by one of these kind of folks, it was just bad luck with a malfunctioning vehicle being operated completely within limits. Though from what I've seen, and probably JYD also, it's no wonder that we haven't had more problems due to folks operating out of bounds.

-- Posted by Northside on Sun, Aug 19, 2012, at 8:13 PM

I tend to agree with RustynMtnHome, public land is there for all to use, not just a few. Be it hunting, hiking, motorized vehicles, camping or snowmobiling, if you follow the laws and restrictions, you have as much right to use it as any member in the above group.

It is unfortunate that some still take one example and put everyone else that recreates that way, into the group and then resorts to name calling.

And shame on you Junkyard dog for using the "r" word. That is certainly not acceptable in today's society.

-- Posted by victoria475 on Sat, Aug 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM

Feel free to stir up the ashes, Rusty. I won't get in your way.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Fri, Aug 17, 2012, at 7:10 PM

@ Junkyard Dog, In reference to your comment: "SCREW a bunch of motorized retards who think they have the right to spark the tinder of nature because they are too fat and lazy to walk a mile in Paradise." Let me be upfront, I take offense to your comment ..... I choose to recreate on an ATV to enjoy the back country of Idaho. The forest, BLM, and Idaho Lands are public lands they aren't just for a selected group of individuals. I also recreate using the feet the good lord gave me as much as I can, in no way am I fat nor am I lazy it is simply the way I choose to recreate. As a member of the Elmore County Search and Rescue, I am sure the many individuals along with their families that our organization have assisted in locating throughout Elmore County are appreciative that I am a as you say a "Motorized Retards", since I have used my ATV on many occassions to locate lost family members. Let me also assure you that there are bad apples in the motorized community just like there are in any other community of individuals. I am confident that the individual whose UTV caught fire didn't go out that morning as you say thinking he has the "right to spark the tender". He was simply enjoying the great Idaho scenery and outdoors in a different manner than you choose to enjoy it.

-- Posted by RustynMtnHome on Fri, Aug 17, 2012, at 8:31 AM

Aa few days ago, I drove past the local movie theatre.

It never fails to amaze me to see the amount of equipment that the City has purchased and cintinues to purchase.



It might seem that it costs more that way but, actually, you don't have to pay for the equipment, the operator is experienced,and 3 extra City employees don't have to be paid to stand and watch.

-- Posted by yniashi on Thu, Aug 16, 2012, at 9:42 PM

Just wondered if anyone knew the story behind what happened at the Pilot yesterday (August 15, 2012) afternoon. There were SO many police there, and then the helicopter too! Someone was obviously not doing well. :(

-- Posted by curlylox on Thu, Aug 16, 2012, at 3:32 PM


Your question didn't bother me. I'm just perplexed by it. Not to sound callous, but someone dying of natural causes really isn't that big of a news story. It's a common, everyday occurrence, unfortunately. By now, I'm sure the important people in his life know who he was, unless there's some extenuating circumstances that have prevented timely notification--like family vacations and such. I'm just honestly trying to figure out why you're so determined to find out this individual's name, unless you have you have some reason to believe that it is actually someone you know. If that's the case, it seems like there's loved ones who will get to you on that, when they're ready. Death is a tragic thing. This man's loved ones deserve the respect of a little privacy, until they're ready for it not to be private. I sincerely hope this wasn't someone you knew.

-- Posted by gcs on Thu, Aug 16, 2012, at 8:30 AM


"What info are you looking for, exactly? It looks like they pretty much gave all the info there was about this, except the man's name. There's no implication of foul play. It was simply a 61 year old man who suffered a heart attack, unfortunately while he was out in an area that took a bit for medical help to reach him. It happens. Is there something in this that you know, that the rest of us don't, that makes this a bigger story than that?"

-- Posted by gcs on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 12:03 PM

What is a bigger story then someone dying? I just felt that it should not take a week for this paper to release a name(on line), or explain that they couldn't at this time. I was hoping it was not a friend. The comment I posted was only posted after NO RESPONSE from this paper. If my question bothered you, I am sorry.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 9:01 PM

As a long time resident of Mountain Home I am quite amazed that 1240 "HANK" has chosen to try and jump into mainstream media hype. Anyone in their right mind would know you don't turn on AM radio to listen to modern music you find all over every FM station. My father who is 87 years old has always listened to 1240 because of the choice of music that was played. His Sunday morning were always spent sitting near the old radio he has in his kitchen listening to 40's and 50's country music and Cowboy Corner. I understand that is still going to be played but what about the rest of the week? So much for small town tradition and clean clear "Hang down your head Tom Dulley", no more Ferlen Huskey, I know most of you reading this don't even know who those folks are but they sure do beat AC/DC Highway to Hell. I hope the individuals who are responsible for this ridiculous change of a local AM radio station have the self confidence to realize they made a bad choice and fix it. Some things are better left alone but then again look at who is president of our country how was that for change....

-- Posted by dbond on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 6:00 PM

I am a diehard classic country music fan and I have to agree with the letter to the editor by Skyler Podesek concerning our local radio station. First thing I did after listening for a day was erase the station from my car radio preset which was # 1. The screeching called singing and the noise called music was too much for me to bear. I can ride from here to Salt lake city and the noise I hear makes Hank sound like every other station. Guess I'll have to start using my CD player and select and play my own music unles we get the station to go back to its old format which I doubt will never happen.

-- Posted by efphgmrcamdm on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 2:48 PM

Godspeed to those fighting the fires and to those assisting with peripheral needs, such as traffic safety and human safety. Bless the families of each person involved and bring them all home safely.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM


What info are you looking for, exactly? It looks like they pretty much gave all the info there was about this, except the man's name. There's no implication of foul play. It was simply a 61 year old man who suffered a heart attack, unfortunately while he was out in an area that took a bit for medical help to reach him. It happens. Is there something in this that you know, that the rest of us don't, that makes this a bigger story than that?

-- Posted by gcs on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 12:03 PM

Boy....it surely is a good thing that the city officials banned smoking in the parks.

Otherwise, it might be difficult to enjoy fresh air in the parks today.

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 11:58 AM

I hope the city checked its insurance policy for the fire vehicles, equipment and personnel. Four grand a day barely covers people cost, never mind a lost pumper or other equipment. You know how insurance companies pile on their exclusions. I'm sure the homeowners have fire insurance on their property.I also can't believe the forest service doesn't protect buildings that are threatened. Good luck to all responders.

-- Posted by gmoney on Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 11:58 AM

Fire reached the summit of Steel Mtn according to the incident website today. I don't know for sure the last time (or if) it burned, but I'm guessing it'll be a long long time before it looks the way it did a few short weeks ago.

Mosquitoes: 100% DEET. Effective- every time, every where. Haven't been bitten in a long, long time, even hiking into some very mosquito and bug infested areas. I always keep a bottle on the porch, another in the console of each of the cars, and put one in my pocket everywhere I go, most recently to the Blues Traveler concert at the Botanical Gardens in Boise. Works great. And yes, JYD, the smoke has been keeping them a bit more at bay, but just about this time of evening, I start to hear a few a-buzzin', so out comes the bug juice, and it works.

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 8:40 PM

Latest from Channel 7 on the Trinity fire


Check the pictures also

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 7:49 PM

Man dies during incident at C.J. Strike Dam

"A 61-year-old man died from a massive heart attack during a fishing trip at C.J. Strike Dam on Tuesday. According to Deputy Greg Genz from the Elmore County Sheriff's Department, the man was fishing with friends at the local... "

2 Emails to this paper have gone unanswered. This has been a week, why aren't we seeing more info on this incident?

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 7:13 PM

I haven't scratched a mosquito bite all summer...I thank the lack of moisture, combined with high levels of dessication, high winds, naturally occuring smoke screens and mosquito abatement plans.

The flip side is, I can't go hiking anymore, unless I wear a dust/smoke mask

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 6:00 PM

A case of West Nile (human) confirmed in Elmore County according to Ch. 2 News. And how many times have known problem areas been fogged this year? How many calls does it take to get an area treated? Explains the case of West Nile.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 5:32 PM

Here is the fire perimeter map as of 0600 this morning. Almost to the top of Steel Mtn in places, all the way down Phifer Creek and across the Middle Fork of the Boise River. It's moved toward the Hot Creek drainage, which already burned a few years ago. Just awful.


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Sun, Aug 12, 2012, at 6:14 PM

Thanks, Geoff. The parts of Idaho that drew me back to God's country, are now in flames. SCREW a bunch of motorized retards who think they have the right to spark the tinder of nature because they are too fat and lazy to walk a mile in Paradise.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Aug 12, 2012, at 5:45 PM

This is the specific incident page for the Trinity Ridge Fire. The closure area was increased significantly yesterday afternoon in addition to the county road closures. The site is updated multiple times throughout the day along with a map of the current burn area:


Here is the updated area closure map (Now follows along Hwy 21 From Id. City almost to Lowman:


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Sat, Aug 11, 2012, at 9:53 AM

Buck Shot

Very good. Instead of blasting the management use some of that knowledge and try to be a part of the solution instead of the problem.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Fri, Aug 10, 2012, at 12:08 PM

East Rocks!

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 8:55 PM

Interesting reading: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/06/08...

I read the article in the paper this week and I must ahve missed where alcohol was going to be served. I thought it said NO alcohol was to be served.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 7:24 PM


Mountain Home does have an open enrollment policy that you can take advantage of, but when you filled out the application for your child to attend a school out of their attendance zone, there is a place that you have to tell them your transportation arrangements and if you READ THE POLICY, it states that you are to provide transportation to and from the school or to an appropriate bus stop. That is your responsibility, not the schools or the bus company. Crew 25 you were not lied to, it is their responsibility. That bus was just a convenience to them.

The bus company has every right to streamline and consolidate bus routes to make the system more efficient and cost effective. We pay a pretty penny to bus kids to school in this town and if it saves us a little to not have a bus make the trip from North to East so be it. I am pretty sure that a bus taking kids to West does not drive by East or North. Why would it? Why would a bus that picks kids up to go to North need to make any additional stops at a school that the kids don't go to? Why keep them on the bus longer than they need to? Doesn't make sense. Why make kids get on one bus just to have to get on another bus and that bus have to be on the road longer than it needs to?

All the elementary schools have the same curriculum and the kids have to learn the same information. So saying one school is "superior" over another is just crazy. All three schools have great teachers, yes, some may be better than others, but they all have the qualifications to teach our kids. They all have programs to help kids that are behind or need extra help. You just have to ask. Most teachers are more than willing to help. I have two kids that went to West and go to the High School now and they both have 3.5 GPA's and are taking Dual Credit classes. Seems to me West was just fine, probably more than fine. My son started kindergarten in another school in our district and I kept asking for him to get help with his speech and the teacher said he was fine. For first grade we had him in West and his teacher identified his speech difficulties right away and got him the help he needed. I have a little one starting West and I am sure that he will be fine also.

-- Posted by MHMomof 3 on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM

Missing miniature Yorkie from East 15th North. Someone opened my parents gate and let their dogs out. The neighbors were able to catch their one dog but not the miniature yorkie. Her name is Mini and she is wearing a pink collar. Please call me @ 371-6268 if you have seen her or know who has her!! My mom is just heart broke over this whole incident. Thanks in Advance!! My number is 371-6268 either text or call!

-- Posted by harleygirl76 on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 10:03 AM


Buy the course. Its a huge money maker I'm sure. On the other hand if you are not aware of the large fees charged by credit card companies on small purchases, or the complications a pump problem can cause, please don't. The course would be a financially ruined weed patch.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 9:09 AM

Personally I believe if you have the "option" to send your children a school other than your local assigned school, then you have the "option" to get them there. It compares to, I could make more money working in Boise but the employer has to take me there.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM

The buses run to all of the elementary schools. The cost is no different since they already drive there. Now, there will be more vehicles on the road using more gas, creating more traffic/hazards simply because of the district pulling this. They bused them last year, what's the difference. The schools are all very different. Yes they are in the same district, however, they do not have the same programs, equipment, or curriculum. East has an after school reading program and they offer other assistance for kids that need extra help where the others do not.

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Wed, Aug 8, 2012, at 8:02 AM

But there is more money being paid out for the fuel the bus uses. When I was in grade school the bus only ran to West, the Jr High & High school. The town was divided up and your child went to the designated school mapped out by the city..and this wasn't too long ago. And how can one school be any different from the next...they are all in the same district...But you are right it is your choice to put them in whatever school you want...so figure out how you will get your child there...i just think it is dumb that the bus have to run to pickup children because their parents choose for them to attend a different school

-- Posted by wintersnow on Tue, Aug 7, 2012, at 6:22 PM

We aren't paying more for the buses to run from one end of town to the other, the buses already have designated routes that go to all of the schools. The choice to send our kids to a better school is our right. My choice to send my kids to East is validated by the superior professionals and the curriculum they offer. They have a far more superior staff, equipment and activities to offer the kids and that is why I've chosen to send them to East again this year. I still believe the district should continue to provide bus services to East just as they did last year!

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Tue, Aug 7, 2012, at 4:52 PM

It seems a little crazy to me that you can choose the grade school your child attends anyway. This is part of the reason there is over crowding in the grade schools. What happened to this section of town goes to North, this to West and this to EAst. So now we have over crowiding and have to pay more for the busses to run from one end of town to the other.

-- Posted by wintersnow on Tue, Aug 7, 2012, at 9:39 AM

So WHY isn't there going to be a transfer bus from North to East this year? So now all of the kids that transfered over to East last year, are all going to have to make arrangements to get our kids to East? Why should we have to change the school our children attend only because North Finally got their scores up? I am irrate over this decision especially since we weren't told until we went to register our kids at East where they attended LAST year! The buses all go by East in the morning when they go to Hacker (a block away!) so why can't they drop the kids off at East and then head to West? Seems like there should be more of an option than what we are being given! We were told nothing will change unless enough parents complain to the District, even then "no guarantee"!!!

-- Posted by Mom2thebest2kids on Mon, Aug 6, 2012, at 2:05 PM

A couple of guys with badges, guns and the authority to throw your butt in jail, show up and tell you to pack it up and go.

However, some of you view this as a negotiable moment. Kinda like the way four year old children behave when you tell them "no."...such is the arrogance of disrespect for legal authority.

The uniforms displayed extreme patience and restraint in the face of ignorance and stupidity combined with a revolutionary sense of entitlement. They are better men than I for the job.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Aug 4, 2012, at 9:08 PM

I am sure the wolf hunts this fall will attract plenty of people to our county.

-- Posted by jdvann on Sat, Aug 4, 2012, at 6:12 PM

Maybe Idahowantswolves will run for Sheriff next time and we can see what a great job he can do. What the 5 minute viedo does not show is how long officials were there and the words spoken by those civilians. Ironic how we can hear the the county officials clear as day, even before they raised their voices but we cannot hear the civilians that well. Videos are like stats, you can make them say one thing while I can make them say the opposite.We need to see the whole video are not speculate as to what went on before the 5 minute section posted.

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Aug 3, 2012, at 7:51 PM


Thank you for your very clear answer to my straight forward question.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Fri, Aug 3, 2012, at 6:57 PM

I think the Sheriff needs to take some anger management classes. This guy is walking around with a a loaded gun. He needs to have more control then he showed at the scene. watch the video. he lost his control.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Fri, Aug 3, 2012, at 6:36 PM


Strictly out of curiousity, just how long should they have stood there and let those young folks express the same views over and over and ask the same questions repeatedly? Thankfully someone's loved one wasn't in dire need of help while that dead horse was being beaten.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Fri, Aug 3, 2012, at 6:22 PM

now thats a way to get people to come and spend money in our county. I think someone needs to retire. I spend 13 hrs a day out in the sun non stop. I dont wet myself over someone expressing there views or asking a question.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Fri, Aug 3, 2012, at 12:03 AM

I"ve known Bob Peace forever, first time I ever heard him raise his voice. Same with Rick. Somebody needed to be hauled off just like the sheriff said.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 8:12 PM

I think the sheriff's did a great job of holding their cool. These were kids who probably used to argue with mommy and daddy and got their way because they wouldn't let up. Well, take a guess what - it doesn't happen that way in the real world. Rules are rules, follow them. Can't only fulfil half of what you are supposed to do and expect to get the rewards. Maybe they will try to follow the rules the next time? What the heck is wrong with people today?

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 11:51 AM

I think the Sheriff and the Deputy did a great job of keeping their cool until the young man said something bad about the county. The Sheriff explained the County's reason for not allowing the event OVER and OVER yet the people wanted to debate it with them. They should have been debating with the owner and P&Z. The poor Sheriff and Deputy were just the messengers. I too would have exploded after well over 5 minutes of repeating myself. Just wish we could have heard what that person said.

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 4:59 AM

I watched the youtube video and read the comment about how disrespectful the police were. I didn't see it that way. Anyone who knows Rick Layher knows that he is slow to anger. It was obvious that he was trying to be patient. He didn't make the rules, but it's his job to enforce them. Whether he agrees with them or not. I have not always agreed with everything he has done, and have voiced this to him on several occasions, but I don't think his actions were unprovoked. Everyone has their threshold. They should have stopped arguing and went on. Their bad.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Wed, Aug 1, 2012, at 11:07 PM

This should answer your question what happened at Oasis. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjUfPwtIU...

-- Posted by stickbow on Wed, Aug 1, 2012, at 8:47 PM

The Event Center was closed down because they failed to follow the conditions of the permit that allowed them to open. Shame on them for not honoring their words.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Aug 1, 2012, at 8:15 PM

Heard it was because the people doing the event didn't get everything done that the County asked of them. Elmore County is very restrictive on everything. But I guess if you don't cover all the bases...it's like a matchbox in that part of the county. It's a range fire ready to happen! Can't control all this people smoking cigarettes.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Sun, Jul 29, 2012, at 7:31 PM

I heard Captain Harry's is out past Tipanuk. Out by Tilli and Ditto Creek on a road named Kodiak. Not sure why one would build an event center out in the middle of the dez. Still haven't seen anything on why their event was shut down by Elmore and moved to Boise.

-- Posted by froggy on Sun, Jul 29, 2012, at 2:10 PM

Where is Captain Harry's Oasis Event Center? Never heard of it.

-- Posted by jdvann on Sat, Jul 28, 2012, at 4:56 PM


-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Jul 27, 2012, at 10:23 PM

makingthebestofit.... raised my child in Mtn Home for 18 years, and regretfully. I hear ya about having a child love a sport, but have that love turned sour because of the coaching. Been there, and bought that t-shirt at MHHS. Bit my tongue for four years till I thought I'd bleed to death! Good luck to you. You and your child (ren) will need all the luck you can get.

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Jul 25, 2012, at 9:52 AM

I do not blame anyone for wanting to take their children to play in Boise. I wish that I could. There is a lot more to HS sports than just playing the game. Coaches should be mentoring and encouraging sportsmanship on their teams. It is sad to see players degrading their own teammates on the playing field where the other team can hear as well as spectators sitting on the sidelines. Coaches are too afraid to bench these players for what? Fear of losing a game? Or possibly offending the bully? Or maybe its because they don't want to deal with the parents of the benched player. Thanks Mountain Home HS for turning my child's view of sports so much that they now want nothing to do with a sport they love.

-- Posted by makingthebestofit on Tue, Jul 24, 2012, at 3:52 PM

EXTREMELY well stated. Nice job.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Jul 23, 2012, at 2:19 PM

CJW---I can feel the passion in that last post. How did you ever keep it so clean? Point well stated as always.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Jul 23, 2012, at 1:59 PM

Sports - soccer, baseball, football, basketball is important to a lot kids. Where they play isn't as important as getting them out there to play. Mountain Home Soccer Club has a lot of great parent participation and support and it really appreciates everything the parents do. That includes volunteering to coming to games to cheer on our young players. Mountain Home Soccer Club has had many positive comments about our players AND our parents from the referees in the games we've played at in Boise and Twin Falls. MHSC wants to help get those kids out there to improve their soccer skills and have some fun competing against their peers in the Boise/Nampa area. mountainhomesoccer.com

-- Posted by MH Soccer Club on Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 1:49 PM

Well let me assure EVERYONE who is talking about Soccer that EVERY HS coach that have kids do participate and support local soccer clubs and programs, including those coaches who don't have kids.. And while we are "PAID" let me also assure you that the little compensation we do recieve is minimal (although appreciated) and usually goes right back into the programs.. On a side note.. There is a booster club now formed to support ALL Mountain Home Soccer.. Next meeting Friday August 10th @ 6:30 pm small High School gym.

-- Posted by SoccersInMyBlood on Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 1:46 PM

Actually my son has played for the MHSC in the past and still has friends that play with them. And I don't think that young man is playing for MHSC anymore, of course this is just talk amongst the kids.

I guess it is just disheartening to know the COACHES don't support locally. I'm not even saying kids of coaches of local teams shouldn't go, I'm saying a HIRED COACH of the HS is disheartening.

I'm not saying a child shouldn't go to Boise to play for more competition in any sport, if parents can afford and drive that is great.

-- Posted by BoyzMom on Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 10:40 AM

I don't have a problem with kids going to Boise to play. I think that if you can bring your child to play in Boise that is your right and great for your child that they can get that extra level of competitiveness there. I just don't think we should have COACHES (who get paid)representing Mtn Home HS when they don't support Mtn Home.

-- Posted by BoyzMom on Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 8:16 AM


Stay out of it. Lots of kids from here play on teams in Boise in other sports as well. Your kids can too. Reasons include the level of competition, community/parental support, and fewer complaining parents. Around here parents are becoming a BIG problem for the development of athletic programs.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 7:40 AM

Just my opinion... My son is trying out for the High School Soccer team. They haven't had their official tryouts yet, but they are having unofficial practices for conditioning. I just heard that they have a couple of new coaches this year and they have boys that play soccer, just not HS yet. But these coaches have their boys playing in Boise not Mtn Home. These coaches live in Mtn Home and Mtn Home has a soccer league and I'm not talking about Parks & Rec. Why does the school district hire new coaches that take their kids to Boise to play? If the coaches don't think that Mtn Home is good enough for their kids than why are they coaching our kids?

-- Posted by BoyzMom on Thu, Jul 12, 2012, at 8:06 PM

This appeared in the Boston Globe: http://articles.boston.com/2012-07-09/po...

"The prime beneficiaries, critics say, would be banks and loan companies that stand to reap a financial boon through subsidies to make nearly risk-free, government-backed loans. They are the same firms that benefited from the system that existed for decades before 2010, when President Obama required that the government issue all federal student loans."

-- Posted by thisoldtown on Wed, Jul 11, 2012, at 10:55 AM

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I am merely presenting information which people may consider for themselves. Its significance is relative.

-- Posted by thisoldtown on Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 11:10 PM

"ThisOldTown", I guess you have a reason for posting this link to an article on Romney's assets? To borrow a phrase from another blogger, I guess you think we should be more worried about what Romney does with his money than what Obama does with ours???

-- Posted by Second Wind on Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 6:54 PM


-- Posted by thisoldtown on Tue, Jul 10, 2012, at 12:50 PM

So did you call the SD and complain or are you just doing it here?

-- Posted by snafu on Sat, Jul 7, 2012, at 6:21 AM

No, it is not the practice fields we use for soccer and such. It was the yards surrounding the Jr. High building itself such as the large areas where the buses pick up and drop off.

-- Posted by doglvr on Thu, Jul 5, 2012, at 7:38 AM

They run each circut at least twice a day at West Elementary and several of the heads are messed up.

But don't anyone worry about it, as they can always ask for another levy so WE taxpayers can foot the water bill. This is not a one time thing, as it goes on year after year and it does no good to contact the school district.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, Jul 4, 2012, at 9:43 PM

If City Hall wouldn't bother with it, then can tell you who would. As for the grass dying, it apparently is being watered 24 hours a day, seven days a week, that's what I got from the post. That's a lot of water wasted.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 6:43 PM

Live & Let Live,

Your pets are your responsibility...period. Be advised, I do not want them using my veggie patch for a litter box anymore than I would acquiesce to you parking your vehicle(s) in my driveway. To truly live-and-let-live means respecting your neighbors privacy and property; regardless of how much you truly wish to live in any community.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 5:03 PM

If the grass was dead you would complain about that too. If you think its that big of a deal you need to call Mtn Home School Dist not City Hall.

-- Posted by wintersnow on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 3:55 PM

So the grass quits growing because school is out for the summer?

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 11:06 AM

Why would City Hall bother with that?

-- Posted by doglvr on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 10:15 AM

Chances are that whoever is in charge of watering the grass at the schools does not read here. Why not call City Hall and see if they can get someone to turn the sprinklers off? Just a thought :)

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 9:25 AM

I am so happy that my kids will have such nice, green grass to walk through when they go back to school at the Jr. High this fall. They are so thoughtful to water that grass, for a week straight (and still going), instead of replacing those old textbooks.

-- Posted by doglvr on Mon, Jul 2, 2012, at 8:34 AM

To the motorist of Mtn. Home, there will be a lane closure in effect Monday morning from V1 to A to Z heading in towards town. Please slow down and be considerate of the workers in the closed lane.

Thank You

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Jul 1, 2012, at 8:19 AM

My God! Can anyone not recognize a TROLL anymore???!!!

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 4:00 PM

Im not saying that my cat should be in there yard.My nabor has the right to hate cat's if they want to.Just that it's hard to change the nature of an animal.I have paid almost $100.00 to the human society this past week. I have 2 fine's to the city. Not sure how much that will be yet. Im buying my home. So I may be here for some time. I am trying to keep them inside. But with people going in and out. My kids and there friends. They manage to dart out. Guess im just sad because i wanted to love living here.But thanks to my nabors I wish I had moved anywhere els!

-- Posted by Live and let live on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM

Live and Let Live,

I have to live with cats coming into my yard and using my grandkids playground as a litter box and nothing can be done about it. I have to go out 3 or 4 times a week and dig through the sand and pick out the poop they leave there and you talk about your rights. I have grandbabies that are put at risk for whatever diseases that cat poop carries and there is really no recourse for me, I do not want to make enemies of my neighbors, I cannot kill the cats, I have to just live with the inconvenince and hope my grandkids never get sick. Oh and I have tried the eucalyptus trick but I am still digging up cat poop.

-- Posted by McCallumS on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 1:55 PM

Live and let live

Please keep your cat in the house. There is a leash law for cats in the city. You could of paid a stiff fine. Plus Not everyone is kind to cats.

Please protect your cat by keeping him inside.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 11:03 AM

Live and Let Live,

I really like cats, and all animals pretty much. But why do you feel that your cat should be allowed to roam freely and go into your neighbor's yard? Would you allow your dog to do the same? I understand that cats are...well....cats, but you can't expect your neighbors to put up with them in their yard. Unfortunatly, my neighbor has a cat that insists on leaving cat tracks on my washed car constantly. Fortunetly for them, I have not practiced my right to protect my property. But who could blame me if I did? I believe that everyone should be allowed to have pets, have fun, etc, but not at the expense of others. Maybe you better make your cats the indoor variety.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 10:41 AM

@live and let live: you may want to give your neighbor's a heads up about a simple solution to keep your cat out of their yards/landscaping. Eucalyptus oil diluted in water and spray it on the corners of the areas they would prefer to not have your cat be in or around. You can get the oil at Sav-Mor. This works like a charm.

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Sat, Jun 30, 2012, at 6:46 AM

P.S. With all the stray cat's arround this town. I would think the focus of nabor's, and the time of the human society would be better spent there. Then on people who love there animals and are not trying to bother anyone!

-- Posted by Live and let live on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 11:15 PM

I recently moved to a new home.Didn't know at the time I would be the younges person on my block. I'm talking retired with nothing better to do then water there perfect lawn.I have outside cat's. Have lived here 21 years with no problems. Righ a way my nabors complain my cat has been in there yard.I try to keep them in.But they hate it.Next my nabor starts trapping my cat and taking it to the human society.They call me right away because my cat has a collar with name and address. This gets me a fine and a fee to pick up my cat.If my cat is out and they call, it will walk righ up to them. Then another fine and a fee!This has happend a couple of times. Don't I have any rights? When does this become harassment? Why would they want to make an enemy right nexed door? I wish there was a law agains your nabor's being hateful Rotten human being's!

-- Posted by Live and let live on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 10:59 PM

In your poll you mention events at Carl Miller park but your calendar doesn't have anything. Is a band playing and what are the start times

-- Posted by gmoney on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 2:39 PM

Breaking National News: Holder will not be prosecuted. Big surprise there. The end to a perfect week (so to speak).

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 2:34 PM

Hey I have a great idea...why not vote out the Congress and Senate, they can't seem to do the job that they get paid for, immigration, government budget, let's start there first. After that have the citizens of this country vote with regards to what campaign limits should be. Corporations have same contribution rights as individuals? Really?? And instead of the news printing/writing articles just to waste ink and slant information; why not actually publish the facts (Pros/Cons) so everyone can make an educated decision.

-- Posted by Montague28 on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 2:21 PM

My apologies to Goatbeard. I misread the poster's name who responded to my post. Obviously, my comments were intended for IdahoGeek52.

-- Posted by GetRealNow on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM

Goatbeard, I must admit I am impressed. What a well thought out rebuttal to my concise and accurate points I made in my post. You are an excellent example of what a person can aspire to under our present leadership. Why engage in lucid intelligent debate when you can simply reduce the discussion to name calling? Why not call me a racist? That would serve you better and spark an emotional response from other like-minded individuals. You are inspiration Goatbeard. I am sure there must be many who will follow in your footsteps as we go into the election. Just like the many who showed up in a march against GOP adviser Karl Rove. When asked, none of the people who showed up at the event knew who Rove was, let alone what he did. Just followed union orders. You go Goatbeard! We don't need intelligence in this country; just blind faith. Allegiance to Obama!

-- Posted by GetRealNow on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 11:41 AM


You need to watch more National News, yes, both CNN and Fox News to to get the whole picture on where this great country is heading under current leadership. Then make a rational reply here on the board. Name calling has always been a sign of one's intelligence.

-- Posted by victoria475 on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 8:52 AM

Get real now, I think your right. If Between the recently mandated Dream Act and this Obamacare ruling, our taxes will rise. If people will not buy drivers liscense and care insurance, what makes anyone think they'll buy health insurance. This country is in deep trouble, getting deeper and we the people are paying. Never in a million years did I eve dream thew SCOTUS would ever make such a ruling about anything. Anyone notice the natonality of the people repairing the overpasses? Am I to believe these are jobs the Americans won't do? Americans won't do it for $8.00 an hour. We older people won't have to live with this so long. Your 18 to 40 year old voters need to study where all this is going. You will live with this stuff for what will seem an eternity. OK, I'm prepared for the bashing and name calling.......go for it!

-- Posted by goatbeard on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 7:49 AM

GetRealNow you a complete moron!

Obama 2012

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Fri, Jun 29, 2012, at 7:22 AM

The Supreme Court has ruled. The Obamacare mandate is constitutional. Now we have enforced welfare under the guise of healthcare. Now every American, except those who Mr. Obama has given a waiver (SEIU and other unions) must have health insurance whether they want it or not. Chief Justice Roberts, in voting to uphold the individual mandate, sidestepped his responsibility by placing the blame on the voters. While he is right when he said that Congress can make bad laws and if the people don't like those laws enacted, they should vote in a better government, it doesn't relieve him of the burden he has cast on American freedom and liberty. Government must be prevented from mandating public choice at all costs. The greater implication of the Supreme Court's ruling today is that the government has the right to tell us what we can eat or pay a penalty in the form of a tax; what we can drink or pay a penalty in the form of a tax; what we can read or pay a penalty in the form of a tax. Get the picture? Awake now? Not only does this law mandate that US citizens must have health insurance, but it also mandates that non-US citizens can purchase healthcare through the government with substantially reduced to no premiums at all. Guess who pays for it? Get the picture? Awake now?

-- Posted by GetRealNow on Thu, Jun 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM

It was not my intention to be "rude" to thisoldtown... My understanding was he didn't like this town so why would they be on here complaining about it? Thats all.

Thank you workingbee for getting what I was saying.

-- Posted by hey you on Thu, Jun 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM

I apologize for my distasteful post at an insensitive time for the community with the recent fire.

-- Posted by thisoldtown on Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 2:03 PM

Sure glad the school district got the last levy passed, as now they are able to run water ALMOST 24 hours a day seven days a week on the large unused grass area at West Elementary. Oh well, it's only our tax dollars anyway.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, Jun 27, 2012, at 11:45 AM

Thank you so much Eagle eye! I will get ahold of the fire dept. It's been a while since I lived in Mtn Home, but I still remember a lot of really good and kind people who live there.

-- Posted by LJB on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 9:11 PM

This was posted on the Mtn Home News site after the fire. There was a car wash last weekend to help and I don't know if any of this other info is valid now or not to help those folks.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 8:54 PM

Workingbee, you misunderstood what I meant.

Your comment demanding an explanation as to why thisoldtown still frequents MHN despite no longer living in Mountain Home was quite rude.

I'm just not able to figure out why people are so rude to those of us who left, but still care.

I would also like to know the answer to LBJ's question. I've been looking for a link or an address, to no avail.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 7:42 PM

Does anyone know what, if anything is being done for the people who lost their homes in the fire last week? Would like to help...

-- Posted by LJB on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 12:31 PM

mhg4316 oops. I meant wrong. I guess Bee isn't the only that has to top everything.

-- Posted by maybeso on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 9:41 AM

mhg4316.. You are right...

-- Posted by maybeso on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 9:40 AM

Why must it be a constant back and forth Bee...its like high school with you sometimes. The BB is a great way to pass information or share things within our community, but you arent adding anything to this when you go back and forth with people being a " one upper" It happens ALOT. I know the response will be AWESOME, and I wont engage you in any banter, just think you should know its childish and irritating.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Tue, Jun 26, 2012, at 9:30 AM

lilmissmelmo.... allow me to quote "Mountain Home is an unfortunate hole where battered souls go to die. It is not a place of prosperity." and you ask why "I don't understand why Hey You had to be so rude to This Old Town.... enough said .... Please

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 10:45 PM

Is there a law saying people can't be interested in the goings-on of their old home?

I don't understand why Hey You had to be so rude to This Old Town...

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 10:42 PM

I would say "Troll"

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 10:22 PM


-- Posted by thisoldtown on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 7:34 PM

@thisoldtown; I gather you don't live here anymore, nor do you care to? Please tell me, why are you on the MOUNTAIN HOME NEWS site? Can't live without the gossip of what is going on around here? Just curious.

-- Posted by hey you on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 6:05 PM

Unfortunately, we do not get the luxury of choosing where we come from. We do have the responsibility of choosing where we're going. I left at the earliest opportunity and return only when I need a reminder of why I left in the first place. It's a sad sight to watch you adults piddle around town gossiping and unproductively fighting over everything and everyone because you can't seem to understand your own pain and sorrow. It's much easier to exploit your neighbors than it is to understand why you say and think all the petty and negative efforts you pursue.

-- Posted by thisoldtown on Mon, Jun 25, 2012, at 12:27 PM

@thisoldtown... I guess I qualify as a battered soul...just remember no matter where you are there really is a place that is worse somewhere.. make the best of it. You didn't say that you lived in Mtn. Home but if you do, Welcome fellow battered soul...

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Jun 23, 2012, at 12:03 AM


It's not so easy to pick up and move in this economy, plus if their an AF Family they most likely didn't pick Mountain Home.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 6:40 PM

I'll never understand why people go someplace they don't like and stay there complaining. For crying out loud........move on already if it's so terrible here.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 4:36 PM


Mountain Home is an unfortunate hole where battered souls go to die. It is not a place of prosperity.

-- Posted by thisoldtown on Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 2:57 PM

Germanwill23, you should care about the product you type, it just shows what type of person you are when you put a product out there with so many errors. Who cares if no one knows who you are. You should care! The first step is to admit you need help and then use the FREE help out there. There are jobs out there (maybe not CEO type to go with your higher level education from the top HS you went to), you just need to get your "foot" in the door and prove yourself! And MH school provides a good education and the teachers bust their "Butt" to educate our children. And don't even stoop to slamming our young kids and calling them "crack heads" and pregnant. There is always one or two in every city, but MH has a good group of kids that work their butts off at jobs (that are not out there) and school!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 8:05 AM

Better check that punctuation and grammar again. Maybe use a comma once here and there. I see a neat career opportunity for someone out there. You can even work from home. Start a web site to teach our high school graduates proper punctuaton, grammar, addition, subtraction, and how to be on time.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Fri, Jun 22, 2012, at 6:35 AM

Germanwill, go to the "help wanted" section of this online paper, there are seven jobs listed there. Certainly you are qualified to do at least one of them? If it's not your "dream" job, at least it's a job until you can find whatever it is you are looking for. Good luck!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Jun 21, 2012, at 4:32 PM

I do know proper puntuation and spelling. but iam on a public website. why do i care if i dont puntuate correctly??????? this isnt a job application and no one is going to read this and know who i am anyway? i am talking about the terrible job shortages here. i graduated from one of the best public education systems in the entire country! How does Mountain Home compare. all i see is pregnant high school girls every time i leave my house. or drug addict crackheads at night. i have excellent english skills. but i am not concerned about how my puntuation on a social site that i remain unidentifed!!

-- Posted by germanwill23 on Thu, Jun 21, 2012, at 12:52 PM

germanwill23 ... go to the local office of the Idaho Department of Labor... on American Legion Blvd.. they can help you with resume writing and your job search.. if you don't feel comfortable with those folks you can always use one of the Boise or Meridian Idaho Department of Labor Offices... they do have services to help you return to a work...

-- Posted by workingbee on Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 10:29 PM


I so agree with you. Learning to capitalize and punctuate might really help. The writing looks like someone is totally undeducated or flat out doesn't care. First impressions make a huge difference when you are applying for a job and the first thing most employers see in today's world is the application; spelling, capitalization, punctuation, proper wording. Makes a difference for sure.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM


Have you applied for any jobs in Boise? This is the first time in my life I haven't had two jobs. I was actually working one job and got a call from a company that offered me another job that I didn't even apply for. They found my resume online and I ended up working for them for over a year. You need to get out and market yourself and keep improving yourself. Don't expect to start out and the top either.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 5:42 PM

Senior citizens have probably contributed to social security their entire working lives, and possibly have saved some money. If your job applications look like your post, it's no wonder you're still looking. Get a book and learn proper punctuation and capitalization. It may help.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 4:35 PM

jobs in this town are few and far between. ive been job hunting for 60 days and put atleaset 35 apps in to various places. why did this town deny a verizon call center, a mall, a nascar track, a nuclear power plant? why do all the older people want to keep the town small? all there is is walmart and cheese factory. and they never return my calls. i have two young children and dont want to be on unemployment or a free ride. i want to work, and i want to be an honorable part of society. and local government only talks to the senior citizens, they get money every month, and iam flat broke. i love idaho but sometimes i wish i never moved here.

-- Posted by germanwill23 on Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 4:11 PM

What is it with renters in this town? Nobody freaking allows pets. I mean are they really that cheap to not even allow some one who probably really needs an animal companion? Or to not let some ones kid have there dog? Then they charge out the butt for a crappy place anyways. Renting in this town is a freakin joke.

-- Posted by shockwave on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 9:45 PM


I believe in helping family, friends, and neigbors in need but...

I have had to cut family off after we tried to help because they wouldn't help themselves. They just wanted everyone else to pay their way while they partied.

I have seen friends and neighbors work the system to get everything they could to not work. 99 weeks of unemployment and then they get a job. I have seen people call our buisness to see if they we where hiring and when I said to come down and we can talk about it they declined as they admitted they really didn't want a job they just needed to list some buisnesses to keep getting their free check. Some even worked under the table for cash as not to reduce the goverment check.

It is illegal for someone else to use the persons food stamps. It has always been illegal due to the fact people selling food stamps for a portion of the value so they can buy alcohol and tobacco but people still do it to break the law. All good intentions aside.

I see people ABUSE the system everyday set to help but unfortunatly to many slackers have found away to abuse the system.

Our system is as broke as our govement is honest and we need to reform it.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 3:17 PM

Delightful, Put perfetly

MHresident ..You must be a man, by your comment: if you cant feed dont breed!. Im sure woman dont go out and get pregnet by them selfs thinking now I can go down and get foodstamps !! Alot are left no choice because the father will not help pay for THERE kids. Im a BIG beliver of HELPING! not JUDGING! I pray you never end up beenin disable or losein your job and need help.

-- Posted by danecoat on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM

*Red Cross

-- Posted by proudmom3 on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 8:58 AM

To help you can contact the Mountain Home Fire Department or Blue Cross. They are evaluating what homes were lost and what will be needed this morning. There seems to be know injuries thank goodness.

-- Posted by proudmom3 on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 8:25 AM

Thank you to all the firefighters who left their Father day BBQ's and 2 nights of sleep to help others. Your sacrifices do not go unnoticed. Thank you.

-- Posted by proudmom3 on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 7:47 AM

Does anyone know who lost homes last night and what we can do to help?

-- Posted by snafu on Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 7:38 AM

As for the dogs anyone attempting to open the gate is breaking laws...animal cruelty and trespassing. Yes, there are laws against uncontrolled barking but does that give you the right break more laws that carry greater penalty? Not to mention could get you arrested for attempted burgarly or shot.

Try talking nicely with them first. They may not be at home when it is happening and unaware. Then start placing calls to animal control and/or police depending upon time of day or day of the week.

We had problems with a neighbor whose dog howled and whimpered continuously and after one discussion to inform them nicely of the problem we had to make that phone call on two occassions. The first they were not only fined but instructed on the need to provide proper shelter, flee control, food, and water which were all lacking. The second time they were fined an even larger amount and found to have not made any of the required changes. Hopefully the poor beast went to a more caring and loving family!

-- Posted by Delightful on Mon, Jun 18, 2012, at 11:44 PM

RE: Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, TX, Nov 18, 2011


I direct this at the 21 year old writing that article and anyone who agrees with it...

If accepting gov't assistance check is a "conflict of interest" that prevents one from voting then our military and veterines could no longer vote nor anyone that owns or works for or has stock in any business that has ever received a bail out, nor anyone who owns, works for, or uses a bank, nor any college student receiving a guaranteed student loan...to name just a few.

That isn't going to leave very many Americans able to vote!

And this includes those who fought for your freedoms!

And a diet of beans, rice, cheese, and powdered milk does not provide much needed fruits, veggies, and whole grains required for health/life. And by rice you probably mean the cheap over processed white rice which has the lowest nutritional value of all. Are you then going to cover the costs of health care for the rickets, goiters, GI diseases, anemia, and other illnesses that will result from this diet?

Also, at 21 ...with your entire life ahead of you... what happens when you are a divorced mother with five kids and lose your job due to down sizing and are considered over qualified for minimum wage jobs? Will you and your kids be seen picking up trash on the side of the highway? Will you and your kids too be eating a diet of rice, beans, cheese, and powdered milk? (I say and your kids since you did not address child care which most single mom's can't afford for only one child with minimum wage job much less other children ...providing it is even available to start with and then often depends upon the age of the infant, toddler, or child, as well as if they are potty trained or not which physiologically occurs most often at age 3 for females and age 4 for males.

By the way, that much rice has too high a glycemic index for diabetics and those with lactose intolerance likely will not be able eat the cheese or drink milk. That leaves only beans if you are lactose intolerant and diabetic both!

Not all women can tolerate Norplants or other forms of birth control and some have medical conditions or histories which make it unsafe. And ligations are now quite permanent--SO... no having kids ever again. Also, birth control is not 100% so what's next? Mandatory abortion if you get pregnant while receiving assistance?! And how about those who have medical conditions that should not be receiving any elective non-life-saving surgical procedures? And just who is paying for all this to be done? And how do you propose to pay for the adverse events and risks and deaths that can occur with any surgical procedure or with the use of contraceptives?

As a licensed health care professional of 30 years and now disabled due to being hit by a drunk driver I find numerous flaws with your plan.

Also, most receiving food assistance do so only temporarily. It's a ton harder to get than you think!!! The majority of those receiving a gov't check are the elderly and that population is increasing as the baby boomers continue aging. After that are the physically and mentally disabled who could no more pick up trash on the side of the road than a quadraplegic. And not all disabilities are visible to the naked eye nor fixable with surgical or prescription interventions ...such as chronic pain, terminal cancer, heart dysrythmias, lung problems, blood disorders, psychiatric and emotional disorders, and so on to name just a very, very few. Just because someone "appears" capable of working doesn't mean that they are!

And when an entire family is expected to feed themselves on only 208 dollars for a whole month they do whatever they can to get by. Sometimes that means choosing a ten dollar large family sized pizza over fresh fish and vegetables! And it is difficult to say no to your kids when there is so very little you can provide them! So yes there is a tendency to buy sweets and sodas because sometimes that is the best and ONLY thing that they can do nice for their kids! And just maybe it is the child's birthday coming up or another holiday or family event that they are getting ready to celebrate! Oh wait...let me guess...the needy aren't allowed to have birthdays, sleepovers, etc. for their kids or celebrate holidays?

And sometimes the folks you see at the check out counter using food assistance are doing it for the disabled, needy, or elderly person who don't have a car or can't even leave their own home much less drive or shop! Other than ambulance rides to the ER, I've been out of my house and shopping exactly TWICE in the last THREE YEARS! I have five different families that are nice enough to do my shopping for me!

And it may be that nice car they are driving was borrowed because they don't even have one... or it belonged to them BEFORE they met with hard times and they will be driving it until it is just a rusted out old hull on wheels! Currently a person receiving certain assistance IS allowed to keep one vehicle -- and their house if lucky enough to have one.

If you haven't ever had to use food assistance or been disabled or elderly or intimately (closely) involved with someone who has then you are not qualified to make judgements or decisions on their behalf!

-- Posted by Delightful on Mon, Jun 18, 2012, at 11:19 PM

Kudos to the entire MHHS graduating class of 2012 and congratulations! And to your TWELVE valedictorians! And to the many, many students with all the various college scholarships! And to the numerous honor roll students! And to the four foreign exchange students! And a very special thanks to the outstandingly wonderful teachers that inspired them to greatness!

-- Posted by Delightful on Mon, Jun 18, 2012, at 9:48 PM

So for the last two days in a row we have had major fires in our community. Each time I/we have had to go to KTVB to get information and updates as to what is happening with the fire.

I am really starting to question why I even pay for a subscription to the newspaper when I can't even get the latest news on this website. For a newspaper of a small community, it sure isn't community oriented by providing its customer base with information.

I could understand the argument that "we aren't a 24 hour newspaper...." except for the fact that even a day later there was no information about the first fire.

If you can't even provide the semi-latest news what is the point of being a newspaper?

What a joke for a newspaper.

Fire 1:


Fire 2:


-- Posted by stopcorrupt87 on Mon, Jun 18, 2012, at 9:37 PM

I just have to wonder what it is that can't be "publicly divulged". And what's with all the "best left unsaid here"--"have to talk about that offline" and all the talk about staying "under the radar"??? Geesh, if I didn't know any better, I'd think I was reading a John Grisham novel! The blogs are definitely better reading than any 'ole mystery book!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jun 16, 2012, at 7:11 PM

I don't post often at all, but the comments about the barking dogs prompted me, as I have had a similar problem. However,I am the dog owner.

I had my dogs for a little over a year before I was aware they were barking excessively at certain times of the day and if left alone at night. Turns out they were barking at the kids coming off the school bus in the afternoon, and if left alone in the yard after dark. My first indication that there was a problem was after I had returned home from an evening school function. There was a very ugly and threatening message on my answering machine, and a note on on the door. I called the neighbor to apologize, despite the ugly tone of his message, only to be spoken to in a very bullying manner. I, being a woman raised with 3 older brothers in one of the great American western states, do not respond to bullying in a manner that ends well for the bully. I was angry, but persisted with my apology, while the neighbor insisted that I must have been aware that this was causing him grief.

Long story short, I am a responsible dog owner. I clean up their waste when I walk them, and hush them when home to do so. Now that they are older, and in control of bladder and bowels, I close off the flap of their dog door and lock them inside when I am leaving them alone. This issue did not have to a confrontational one with my neighbor, it easily could have been worked out in a friendly and neighborly way.

Idaho Duck, talk to your neighbor before taking action against them. I could tell you a lot more things my neighbor has said and done, but won't make this post any longer. Trust me, you don't want to be that guy.

MH Resident, advising somebody to trespass onto another's property with the intent to do harm is not good advice, especially in the middle of the night. This is Idaho. You trying to get somebody shot?

-- Posted by DANSHL on Sat, Jun 16, 2012, at 12:15 PM

Dogs are dogs and if allowed to bark for hours on end, will. It is wrong to risk harming an animal because the owner is ignorant. The dog(s) did not ask for that life nor do they pich who owns them.

The threat of "less humane" acts should represent a threat. The police need to be tracking you down. You should be ashamed.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 11:08 PM

Buckshot61... Great Job... @mhresident opening the gate .. really wouldn't that be trespassing at the very least, along with endangering an animal.. I guess breaking the law to correct the neighbors action ....is one way of fixing things?

-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 9:24 PM

bob8492..... Its a start I would say... it might just work... but you go ahead and tick them off with fines and tickets..

-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 6:26 PM

Hoooooray Mr. Obama! Well done...nice job on those 800,000 illegals who can be a further burden to our system. Well done indeed! Congrats (and a big pat on the back to ya).


-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 1:01 PM

The original post was made my the MH Soccer Club the 2nd post was made from a different user. Probably another parent... I am sure that whomever made the 2nd post would just like to make sure that the word gets out about the sign ups, practice and clinic. It's great way for the kids to stay busy this summer and stay on top of their soccer skills.

-- Posted by MH Soccer Club on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 10:42 AM

Why do you keep posting this advertisement? It is already here a few posts down.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 9:34 AM

In reply to Workingbee: Let me ask you, if the neighbor allows their dogs to bark for 35-40 minutes at 3am do YOU think it would do much good to have a friendly chat over the back fense with these folks. Tell us again what you thing.

-- Posted by bob8492 on Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 7:09 AM

How about just going and talking to the neighbor?

-- Posted by workingbee on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 9:54 PM

Someone please clarify for me please. If you call the police at 3am regarding barking dogs and remain anonymous because you are a neighbor and the police go by 40 minutes later and the dogs are not barking will the police stop at the house or just list the call as "no contact made"? If the police do not witness the dogs barking the caller will have to sign the ticket... correct? Clairification for all would be good. thanks.

-- Posted by bob8492 on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 8:52 PM


Idaho went away from using the EBT card for child support payments in 2009. The state now uses the Idaho Family Support Card strictly for child support payments. The EBT card is used for food stamps and other assistance programs.

-- Posted by Mercutio on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 3:15 PM


During the day, Mon thru Sat you can call Animal Control at 587-2111 for a much faster response and they are authorized to issue citations. This allows the cops to handle other matters, although you can call the cops as well. A third citation is a misdemeanor.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 3:00 PM

Folks, the EBT cards are also used by those of us who received child support from the ex-spouse. So don't assume it is social services that is providing that card, hypothetically being improperly used, when you have no factual basis for such a statement, as I used it when my ex-wife paid child support as I raised our boys!

-- Posted by ltngblt on Thu, Jun 14, 2012, at 11:52 AM

Hate to be negative but here goes- too many dogs barking in this town!!! No one needs more than 2 dogs of any size. And if you are not willing to stop whatever you are doing and see why your dog is barking non-stop then you do not need a dog at all. Even If that is in the middle of the night or at dinner time when people are trying to enjoy the outside. If my dog is barking, I go see why and make it stop however I must.

I do not even understand why people would have 3 or 4 dogs and then not take care of them! Do the animal and your neighbors a favor and find another home for any neglected barking dogs.

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Wed, Jun 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM

I know the dance studio place off American Legion has Tae Kwan Do, but I heard there's a new place in town offering martial arts. Anybody know where it is and what martial art they do?

-- Posted by MiltonPoope on Sat, Jun 9, 2012, at 5:48 PM

dane coat:

You obviously do not fall into my category of people that abuse the system. As long as this country remains in its current financial situation, so will you. I believe the current administration is responsible for this wide sepread abuse. They allow it to happen, and support it. Those recieving these benefits for nothing are the same people Obama will be relying on to vote him into office again. This is all happening at the expense of the small business people that are also suffering. When they suffer, families such as yours also suffer. Unfortunatley our government is letting this become a way of life for too many people. They will know no other way. I truely believe that if you feed a person fish for a day, he will be content for that day. If you teach that person to fish, he will be content forever.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, Jun 6, 2012, at 7:43 AM


I really can't speak for some of the comments made but I do not think these people are against help for those that truly need it. People are against the abuse of such things. It has been said on here that for some, it is a true need to have assistance. However, there are people who obtain items by illegal means---that is the problem. I know people who will go to the store with someone who has food stamps and they will use that person's card (with them there). Then they (the other person) gives the person with the card cash so that they can buy items that can't be purchased with their card. True need is not what is being discussed, IMHO.

We are on a tough road. There will be people on food stamps and assistance that NEVER thought they would be and there are people on assistance that will NEVER admit it. Jobs are few and far between. Money does not go as far as it used to. Pretty scary times with little "security." Savings only go so far and an illness can wipe a person out in a second.

Keep your chin up. Your family has been through much. All you can do is be the best person you can be. Hang in there.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Jun 5, 2012, at 4:04 PM

eating out at KFC using the EBT card???That is so untrue. You can not buy hot ready food with food stamps

I wish ppl were more willing to help ppl then sit there and judge them!

-- Posted by danecoat on Tue, Jun 5, 2012, at 10:32 AM

I belive in helping ppl not judging them!!

-- Posted by danecoat on Tue, Jun 5, 2012, at 10:00 AM

I someone who lost is job of 20 yrs.Had to go get food stamps.Do you really know how hard it is to go in and get them!!! He is not LAZY!! He has put a app in every place he can in this town for 2 yrs. Still no job! He is willing to work anywhere!!.Not EVERYONE that gets food stamps are LAzy.Some hav no other choice to get food stamps to feed there kids.And to come on here and see what ppl hav posted..How very sad that you feel like you know everyone on FS.And your so perfect ,that you can judge others...very very sad!

-- Posted by danecoat on Tue, Jun 5, 2012, at 9:57 AM

Ever run into someone in this situation: I just got laid off from a job that paid $20.00 per hour. I could have gotten a job at $14.00, but I would never take a job for less than $20.00. Why would you? Whats the motivation? Maybe they should limit welfare to those that have a job and are willing to contribute to their own existence.

I dont't mind helping those that actually put an effort in to providing for their family, but some of the things I see being purchased on those little red, white, and blue cards is amazing. I personally know a single mother that makes $10.00 per hour. Daycare also comes out of this. She would net by far more money and live in a nicer home if she was on assistance. She could have food stamps,welfare money, free rent and no day care. OH!!!! I almost forgot. A HUGE refund from her tax returns, even though she contributed a huge $0000.00 WOW

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 9:19 PM

Ok I will.

Your 46% of people with jobs don't pay any taxes, add that to the the 8 to 15 percent of the population that don't have jobs and that makes over 50% of the US population not paying taxes. I myself get tired of sending a check into the IRS every year knowing it is going to these lazy scammers that have better phones, cars, and eat out at KFC using the EBT card.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 6:20 PM

Nice try trouble, 46% of wage earners pay no taxes because they don't make enough to pay taxes on.

20% of wage earners earn 5% of wages paid in this country. Defend that!

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 2:50 PM

We are at the point now where 50% of the people are sucking off the other 50% that are working. It won't be to many more years that the working 50% get tired of carring the rest and want free stuff also. Then who will pay for the free money (welfare) and food stamps?

I agree that people should be forced to work 8 hours per day if they are recieving welfare or food stamps. If they don't like picking up trash on the side of the road 8 hours per day then they can go get a real job. That is incentive, I seen it again yesterday up in Boise. A lady with kids had a full cart of junk food and sodas and paid with food stamps, then right behind her was her hubby with his cases of beer and some other items and paid for with cash. Then they go into a nicer car than I have it was a 201o Lexis. They both had smart phones; it is nice to know my taxes are paying for them to have nicer things than me. Just another scam on the ACTUAL American Taxpayers.

The 50% that are actually paying.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 2:33 PM

Oh, that is freaking choice! Need assistance through no fault of your own and you lose the right to vote! Same as convicted FELONS! Go back through and re-read the whole thing and see how many CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED!! Or does the Constitution only apply to those who are working?

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 2:10 PM

Great post re: CA school district. Would never happen here but it is "all about the kids." Great article.

Guess what the MHSD Admin make on retirement?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 12:05 PM

Interesting Reading.


-- Posted by Montague28 on Mon, Jun 4, 2012, at 10:51 AM


I wonder, if the A.F. were to do an inventory of backyard shops, how many government issue tools they would find from around 25-30 years ago???

Just wondering there, 5 months.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jun 2, 2012, at 7:56 PM


-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jun 2, 2012, at 5:06 PM

I wanted to pass along a huge thanks Chief Gridley on his retirement. He has provided protection for this community for a long time and also improved the lives of many citizens. I wish him well.

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Jun 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM

Just to comment about the adult store. As a parent, I dont think they need to close or move at all. Good parenting is a way to guide what your kid sees/experiences/etc. if you are all of a sudden worried about pedophiles/sex offenders why now? You should always be monitoring who your kid comes in contact with, not because a sex store may open up. Give it a break, I am pretty sure everyone has sex, otherwise you wouldnt be a parent.

-- Posted by NYtypeofgirl on Mon, May 28, 2012, at 10:53 AM

I am a veteran, but I do want to thank my husband, our 2 sons, our daughter and her husband, my brother and his son, and my husbands brother for their military service to our country To our children: Thank you for understanding what pride in your country means and for giving back some of what you have been given. Thank you for really knowing,learning and understanding that freedom isn't free. I am proud of each and everyone of you. Love you all.

-- Posted by midea on Sun, May 27, 2012, at 8:50 PM

This has not been made public for some reason. Kathy Makin, of Atlanta, Idaho has been arraigned on charges of embezzling funds from the Atlanta Quick Response Unit. I am not sure what the full amount is but it is upwards to 11,000.00. She was instrumental in trying to get the unit up and running after the unit closed down due to lack of certified personnel. She talked the members of the unit into a debit card and was the only one that had access to it. Apparently the money was removed through atm machines from June until January of this year.


Myself and many others are hoping that the Prosecuting Attorney pursues this to the letter of the law and doesn't let this woman plea bargain down. She has a record and thinks that she can just put the money back and handle this "privately?" Ms. Schindele, just this one time, can you please see to it that this one case is handled right?????? Don't let Ms. Makin walk. Quit letting these Atlanta lawbreakers off. Do your job for once.

-- Posted by bearhunter on Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:48 AM

SCAM ALERT! There was at least one girl roaming around town yesterday "Raising Funds" for a choir group.

It was fake, and she was arrested. If you gave to this person for books or magazines, they targeted you and you might be able to get your money back or STOP payment on a check.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Wed, May 23, 2012, at 8:58 AM

Dog found on American Legion last night. M-L size, black/white long hair, possible Blue Healer mix, blue eyes, very friendly. Taken to shelter.

-- Posted by doglvr on Wed, May 23, 2012, at 8:20 AM

Just another iteration of the classic "Your 'moral' standards ought to be the same as my 'moral' standards; if I can't convince you of that (or you disregard my nonsense), then I'm going to try to get the government to enforce those 'moral' standards for me."

None of the government's business, and always pretty bad policy:



-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Sun, May 20, 2012, at 11:51 AM

To Itsjustmeagain - Seriously? The kind of people this store attracts? What type of people goes into this store and how do you know what this "type" of store attracts? Have you been in there? Are you sitting in your car watching from across the street???

Have you nothing better to do? Are you insecure in your mate/partner? Maybe he/she has gone into these places before because you appear to me to be a little frigid. I have gone into these places in the past. My kids knew nothing. It wasn't their business. And I have gone in them recently with my daughter now that she is an adult.

If the owners are following ordinances and are not breaking any laws then you really need to shut up.

-- Posted by bearhunter on Sun, May 20, 2012, at 9:32 AM

Just trollin...lived in town for 17 years. A lot of peope know me.

No adult store but we will accept same-sex marriage? Narrow-minded or double-standard?

I take my dog out quit often. I am a dog lover. BUT, I am tired of loose dogs!!!!!! I think I am going to have to act in self-defense from now on when a loose dog comes charging out at my dog and I. Is it that hard to keep them in your yard or tied up?? Please have some consideration and I will too....

-- Posted by clam chowder on Sat, May 19, 2012, at 10:57 PM

Totally agree with gcs.

Well, heck. Better throw out all those educational National Geographic mags, too. No catalogs from department stores....lingere ads. Too explicit to have lyin' round the house. Don't watch the news, listen to the radio, get online, and heaven forbid, don't let them NEAR the lingere dept when you're at wal-mart, or be sure to cover their eyes....etc., etc., etc., and ESPECIALLY don't let them read the MHN Banter Box, cause I didn't even know about this until I read it here! Many kids know more about sex at younger ages than some of their parents know as adults. Don't convenience stores sell pornographic magazines anymore? Playboy, Hustler, Forum? Been awhile since I've read one, so I'm not sure if they still sell them. Oh, that's right. Everybody just reads them for the 'articles.' Would be willing to bet that some of those so up in arms about this place opening in little ole' innocent Mtn Home have probably, at some time, had 'dirty' thoughts or fantasies, or looked at some type of pornographic pic.........must mean you're a pedophile? Or maybe just a hypocrite??

-- Posted by roosterz on Sat, May 19, 2012, at 2:24 PM

I would love to plan their float for AFAD. All of this "banter" is really great PR for that shop.

When will the ribbon be cut by the Chamber? Will that make front page news?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 10:38 PM

I do not think that store (and I have not been in it) is any worse than a Victorias Secret store that sits smack dab in the middle of a busy mall---where small/young children walk by all day long.

I guess I must be "one of those people" as well because I really do not find that shop to be in bad taste---from the outside. It is very understated and was done in good taste. You would not know it was even there unless you knew it was there.

Some of you on here will really blow your tops when the strip club comes in. Yep...soon to be in MH. I am fairly certain that it will be well advertised and everyone will know where it is. Bet there will be less problems in that place than there is at Charlies.

At the very least it will put Mountain Home on the map and give the bored husbands a place to go. Wooooooooo hoooooooooo!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 10:18 PM

Heaven forbid consenting adults have a fruitful, diverse, enjoyable sex life. I have news for you: no matter how vanilla your sex life, if your children know about it, it's going to disturb them. This would be why we don't discuss our sex lives with our children. We don't expose them to objectionable material. We don't take them into adult situations or adult shops. Sex exists around our kids. It's our jobs to protect them from the things we feel they need protecting from--be it magazine covers, books, movies, music, or stores.

People can be loving, responsible, protective parents and still enjoy their sexual interests. Perverts are going to be perverts, no matter what access they have to sexual materials, just like violent people are going to be violent no matter what access they have to weapons. Sexual materials and weapons aren't reserved for bad people. Quit blaming objects for the actions of people.

-- Posted by gcs on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 10:11 PM

I think I was one of the few people, if not the only person, at the meeting last night to have actually gone into the shop. It is very tastefully done, and the front has nothing but a selection of lingerie.

The inappropriate stereotyping of "those kinds of people" who go into shops that offer these kinds of products is very telling about the misperceptions and misunderstandings about this ordinance change. It isn't about being afraid of being sued; it's about following the supreme law of the land: The United States Constitution. That some people object to the types of things sold in these stores does not mean the city has an obligation to deny the rights of property owners and consumers to cater to that objection. Imagine if someone objected to the sale of pork in grocery stores, and demanded that the city unconstitutionally require it only be sold on one parcel of land in city limits, if at all?

Viewed from the outside (it is next to the motorcycle shop on Airbase Road near the overpass) there is absolutely nothing objectionable, and no one under the age of 18 is allowed into the store, which doesn't even open until 1PM. As far as children "walking by"- the underpass sidewalk is on the other side of Airbase Road from the shop.

To say that a day care is "almost right across the road" is misleading. Either something is across the road or it isn't. This shop is not across the road from the daycare, period.

300 feet is sufficient under state law for bars to be proximate to schools, churches, and daycares, and as many have pointed out, those activities have many more accurately documented secondary effects on neighbors than an innocuous walk-in, walk-out retail establishment that has no activities, other than the sale of products, on site - no different than any other retail store in town.

Whatever anyone's stance on pornography, it is readily available on the internet and these types of shops do little of their sales in that product. Instead, they cater to folks wishing to enhance their sexual experience in the privacy of their own homes. There was indeed one of these shops in Stardust Plaza, which created no problems for anyone, and was forced to close only because of a rent issue as I recall.

The assertion that "children will suffer as a result" is false. Children are not allowed into the store, children will not see any inappropriate images, and if the existence of the store contributes to a couple's healthy sexual relationship, the health of that relationship will help their children as well.

I did not speak over, interrupt, or otherwise react to speakers at the meeting with whom I disagreed. Unfortunately, that sentiment was not reciprocated by the other attendees when I spoke.

The statement "The KIND of people these stores invite" is prejudiced and betrays an utter lack of understanding of the reality of the world. I'm proud to say I've been and am one of one of "those kind of people," and I think "those kind of people" are much, much more common than someone with an antiquated prejudice knows.

Before you fall for the misleading stories of the panic-mongers who claim to be "protecting the children," stop in the store (or drive by) and see for yourself. When you go in the store, in the front, you'll see nothing worse than the underwear section at Walmart.

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 6:40 PM


Life is tough you should buy a helmet or better yet don't leave your house and you won't have to face the real world.

Good parents don't sweat the small stuff as we teach our children right from wrong but don't hide things from them.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 6:12 PM

Actually, there is also a day care almost right across the road from this store, up by the railroad tracks. I don't give two hoots about what goes on behind closed doors with two consenting adults and almost laughed out loud when the woman at the meeting talked about how people with perfect "personal" lives that do not need spicing up should be happy. This is NOT about what is sold in the store, or the personal lives of people, it's about the KIND of people these stores invite. Look up the statistics and see that sexual crime rates go up when these kinds of stores go in.

Last night it was said several times by people who were all for this store that it was innocent and no movies would be sold there. Sorry, but the man who owns the store was at an earlier town meeting and said there WOULD be movies.

The store went into a zone where it was illegal for it go in, the city has yet to change the ordinance, sound familiar? Talk of a lawsuit was all abuzz, funny thing, one woman said "The lawsuit" and then quickly corrected herself and said "If there is a lawsuit". Seems to me that the city has no choice other than to do what they have been essentially being bullied into for fear of a lawsuit, change the ordinance and forget about the safety of the children on our city. There was a young man who voiced his concerns and did so quite nicely, it was good to see someone from the younger generation who knows what is and is not good for a town.

We were told that the city can't make it hard on these people by making them go to another area, and yes there were other areas available for them to put this store, that would require them to put in sidewalks and build a new store. Why not? Did any of the other businesses in town get the same courtesy? Did Demeyer's Furniture or Walmart or Maurices or any other moved or new business get to say that the city had to allow them to move into an already existing building and provide them with all they needed? I am sure they didn't. Those who oppose this store, do not say they should NOT have one at all, just not within so many feet of facilities that take care of children, like the city ordinance is worded right now. Changing that ordinance from 2,500 feet to 300 feet to avoid a lawsuit is ridiculous. What's next, allow the store to go in right next to a school or daycare?

If these people wanted to start a business, they should have to follow the laws just like everyone else, laws should NOT be changed to accommodate someone because of a threat of a lawsuit. If they don't have the money to start up a business, that's just the way life is. Is the city now going to bow down every time they feel there might be a lawsuit? I hope not because there are a lot of people out there just itching to sue someone, there is plenty of proof to be found for that.

I didn't so much agree with the man who stood up and voiced his religious on opinion on this subject. People have different morals and different values in life and that's just the way things are. We can't all feel the same way about things. This is not about religion, or forcing our way into someone's bedroom and telling them what they can and can't do there. It's about the sexual crime rate rising and it's a proven fact that it does. If there are sexual predators living close to school that you know about, then you have a duty to report them if they are not so many feet away from the school. The world has those kinds of people in it, there are laws to protect others from them.

I only hope that none of the people who think this is a "great" idea and it will bring jobs to town and boost the economy, don't have children who will suffer because of it. Seems to me the only jobs it's bringing into town will be those of family and close friends.

I won't comment further on this. The city has already made up their minds about this and the meetings are all pointless and a big sham, in my opinion and that of others who were there last night. Just as our Mayor said on television, the business won't thrive with no customers. If we really want it gone, then we won't frequent it and I think we can all rely on the fact that handful of supporters won't be able to spend enough to keep it open. I'll be praying!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 5:10 PM

you guys are complaing about bars and adult stores affecting our children but we have sex offenderes who live near schools and live next door to children and there alot worse than a bar or adult store

-- Posted by dolphnluver72 on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 1:20 PM

Well apparently there is a toy store in town that I didnt know about. CAN WE SAY SHOPPING TRIP? I feel that you are being out right ridiculous. You are worried about the traffic a simple store will bring to the supposed two schools this store it by. Im assuming its the Montessori and West. Its a good distance from both of these schools. Matter of fact the EDGE (the bar) is closer to the Montessori then the toy store in question. Hell...Kids walking to the Jr High and High School from across the tracks pass by Kurlys on a daily basis plus are in close proximity to Charlies, Stockyard, Adrians, even the liquor store

-- Posted by randomgrl on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM


The world must be ending we agree 100% on this issue....lol

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 9:27 AM

Pretty discreet looking store.ONE school in question is pre school who are brought to school by adults and picked up by the same.The other school I have no idea what your talking about.The preschoolers are nowhere near that store and I would venture to say they cant even see it from the buildings location.The comment about the BAR THE EDGE.....those people dont bother anyone so what is the problem?? I bet we have more police calls to the BARS in town than we have to the EDGE.WE dont live in a chaste society,and it is a free one I think we should remeber that sometime.

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, May 18, 2012, at 8:37 AM

So couples, who go to these stores, purchase merchandise, should not be around children? Really? Very happily married couples with families have the items sold in these stores....there's nothing wrong with it...teachers, drs, police officers.....you're way off with this. To each his own...I have children, been married for 13 years, and happen to shop at these types of stores....I'm successful and my children have 4.0 grade point averages. My husband and I are those people.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 8:11 PM

MHN Staff,

Could you please clear up some confusion for me? Read the article on Crazee Days. It says it starts 7 June (a Thursday) but throughout the article it says events are on May 9th. Did you mean 9 June?

I am glad to see this great local event come back and look forward to walking around town seeing the great booths.

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 6:02 PM

I don't recall naming any school, I simply said it was close to two schools. The type of person who frequents these kinds of businesses is just like the woman on the news said, not the kind who should be around children. If you can't see that, I feel a bit sorry for you. The traffic brought into the areas of these schools is not going to be good. You can't argue with statistics. Notice the store across from the the store you mention is no longer there? Proof that this kind of business does not last long. I never even knew we had a biker bar in town other than when the OT was open. It would appear if they are there, they have been a business that would not upset any schools. Time is going to be the big teller here. I hope you have a ton of money to spend in the business to keep it open, I predict it won't last many "years", at all.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 4:52 PM

An adult store is not going to hurt children unless they trip on a broken sidewalk in front of it....and mind you the last store that was in this town of this kind was open for many many years, across form a supermaket where children could see it....hope none of them were hurt. There are far bigger issues than this to be worrying about....The city had no reason to say no to this being able to open. It doesnt matter what it is, there's always someone who is going to get offended. And The Edge, a biker bar, is a block away fromt this exact school you speak of.....

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 3:13 PM


I forgot to ask you to show me where I said it was a bed of sin. You go find it, I'll wait here, not all night though, there is a meeting at the Legion Hall at 6:00pm tonight, about this store.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 2:48 PM


Your opinion of me doesn't matter. I'm not all about being "fun", I am about protecting children. Where in this town is there a bar next to a school, I am anxious to know that.

Sorry if my opinion about protecting children offends you, I happen to find children to be of far more value in this world than to expose them to things such as a porn shop. At the town meeting, we were told that the shop was going to be in "good taste", sorry, not everyone thinks porn is in good taste and I say again, that shop could have gone up farther away from any school, that the man chose to put it where he did, raises questions that have yet to be answered.

I'll be happy when it closes due to lack of business. They always do!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 2:42 PM

Here we go.....

If you dont like adult stores, dont go into an adult store. If you are embarrased by being seen going into an adult store, dont go into one and you have nothing to worry about. You have gotto be kdding me with these posts....some people enjoy these types of places and the items that they sell, they are the people who will be frequenting this business. If its by a school or a church...so are many bars in this town which Im sure some think are a bed of sin as well.

You seem like a bunch of fun there ItsJustMeAgain.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 2:31 PM


No, someone didn't just happen to look up the statistics before being interviewed. No, I am NOT the person who was interviewed, I just happen to know her and know that this is a battle that has been going on LONG before the interview and one she has been helping to fight. Some people ARE interested in the best interest of the children in our town and keep close tabs on what is going on.

Are the people running this town going to run from ALL challenges to avoid a lawsuit? Seriously, the church was in the right, however, the laws on the books state that the porn shop should not be there PERIOD!

One good thing, like Ms Marilyn said, those kinds of shops don't last long around here and I for one thank God for that. Just imagine having to go there for whatever it is you want and having people stopped at the stoplight or driving by, see you there. I know about a handful of people, if that many, who would not be bothered by others knowing that they would frequent a shop such as that. That shop will THANKFULLY go under some day and the man who wants to "support his family", will have to find a different way to do it.

That shop could have been put any where, instead, he chose a spot close to TWO schools. That's just wrong!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 2:16 PM

We had received this for next week's paper and thought it would be too late so have opted to post information on the website.

"The temporary reader boards that were set up around town before the election were paid for by a political candidate. They are not the reader boards that belong to Disaster Services that you see being used for Public information at time to time. We were in no way associated with the candidate or with the political election process.

Thank you

Alan Roberts, member

Disaster Services

Elmore County.

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 9:37 AM

We have had the question come up via telephone and to our website administrator asking the question of MHNews and KTVB reporting two different political results from Tuesday night. Just wanted to give an answer. "Who is right?"

They were both correct for their situations. We covered the local races as reported and were at the Elmore county local courthouse late Tuesday night awaiting results for our 18 precincts and we reported on those results in our local community paper. If it is a position that they are running that covers more than Elmore County then we all must wait for the next day for all the state results to be in. We hold up the paper for local results giving many of us a very long day and night. At this point not all state results are in. KTVB being a TV station covering the entire state in this instance is receiving information state wide continuously. Again that is why you will see our reference "local", "Elmore County" and "unofficial results". As we have seen in past elections it can go one way in our local county which was the case with Nielson and Corder this year and be totally different when the entire state is tallied. We apologize for the confusion and will update final results in next week's paper.

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 9:01 AM

There have been about three others in town over the years, none of which were on Airbase road. They all went away because people didn't like them and didn't support them. Just gotta try and make a buck. So many think because the Airbase is here it's a good place for this kind of business. Well, history here shows that's not good thinking.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Thu, May 17, 2012, at 7:25 AM

Years ago there was another Adult Store. It was on Air Base Road, I think where the Gun Shop is now.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 10:26 PM

My favorite comment in the story is "There will be an increase in child molestation, in rape, in crime, because that's what the statistics have shown." Someone just happened to look at the statistic before getting interviewed? I would love to see the statistics this person used and supposedly saw.

-- Posted by jrhkuna on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 10:12 PM

I just saw the news story about the sex shop on Channel 9. While I don't agree with the store, I can't believe some of the statements made by some of the people interviewed. After the church lawsuit, I think the town made the right call. Heavens know we don't want to end up like Boise County.


-- Posted by MHdog-gone on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 9:19 PM

I don't consider the elections a total win.

-- Posted by yoB on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 3:01 PM

All school district haters

I look forward to seeing you all at school board meetings. Honestly though, I bet I will never see you there. You like to whine and complain on here so you can hide behind your computer.

-- Posted by jrhkuna on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 2:40 PM


Rally to Restore Sanity was awesome. All these teabaggers are just fear mongering puppets of the Koch brothers agenda, which is to obtain all the wealth in this country, they will realize that when we are all working in sweat shops for minimum wage.

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 1:29 PM

Gee OpinionMissy, do us all a favor and be the first to go, Hasta La Vista Negativity!!

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 1:24 PM

Ms. Smith/yoB:

At some point in time, and it will happen, these taxing districts in Mountain Home will tax many right out of the area. Why live in MH if you can pay near the same taxes in another area, be closer to jobs, entertainment, etc.? I look forward to the day when you yourself contribute to all of this support. Then you will know/understand how hard it is to keep up with all of this expense. So wallow in what you think of as a win. Karma can be a...well you know.

Enjoy your day Ms. Smith. Always an experience.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM

Ms. Lauric,

Did you hear about the rally to restore sanity? It was back in 2010. Just curious what you think about it?

-- Posted by yoB on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 12:33 PM


You can laugh at what ever you want. That is one of the best things about the USA. Everyone can have their own option even if they don't agree with each other.

Laugh it up as you find it funny, I happen to find it sad.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 10:17 AM

Trouble2011 I'll be the first in line to laugh at you when they don't in November, not that I'm not laughing at you right now :)

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 10:07 AM

Well it looks like the SD pulled off another one and got the sheeple to believe their lies. The 2 year temp levy is now another 2 year temp levy.

Guess what will happen to this levy in another 2 years...

Yes they SD will parade the children out as pawns again telling everyone that if you don't vote for renewal you are against the children. After all their mantra is "it's for the children".

No it is about greed and power the more they get the more power they have. If the SD didn't have a history of lies and secrets then maybe they wouldn't have to resort to using children as pawns.

The SD turning down an offer for an "independant audit" paid for by a concerned residents. Makes someone wonder what they are hiding?

Well I can't wait until they ask for another levy or bond, I'm guessing by November they will want more.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 8:33 AM

Tax-Spend-Tax-Spend-Tax-Spend...wish I could run my household this way. Instead of going out and continuing to ask for hand-outs, we do without, or save or purchase a cheaper brand (including my bourbon). But oh no, not the MHSD, they simply ask for more and then the good sheeple go right on and give it to them. Well I guess I'd better get back to work so I can pay for my portion of this $5.4M bill I just got stuck with.

-- Posted by ??ReallyPeople on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 8:17 AM

This really isn't a "defense" of Opinion Missy but take it as a defense for all BB commentators.

For all those that have negative views of OpinionMissy--let's take this into consideration--she's involved in her community. Whether her opinion or yours is the right one for the community or not is protected under the 1st Amendment. So give her credit for being involved even if you don't like her opinion. How many MHomies follow the establishment like sheep to the slaughter and never once think for themselves. I appreciate a person who takes the time to search out a truth even if their conclusion/solution may be wrong. And I appreciate that she isn't shoving it down everyones throat as a good liberal would(not saying she is liberal). She comes onto the BB and tells "her opinion". Yes, There's a bit of name calling back and forth but I appreciate it more when it comes from an informed citizen than a sheeple. You may agree with her or not but if you do disagree you better be well informed with your opinion because you can bet she will be with her answer.

This is what makes the BB interesting to read!

By the way, for all MH educated--please explain to me why we have a TRIG/Pre-Calc teacher that hasn't a clue as how to teach either subject and has to look to his students for help with the problem and answer and yet he is allowed to stay on and teach by the mere fact of his last name? Pretty sad when the students turn to each other for help to learn the subject! This is just one instance of the education problems flooding this school! I've had my children come home more times than I care to count telling me they watched a movie (not related to the subject matter) in classes or that the teacher just didn't teach and let them chat amongst themselves. My oldest came home the other day and said that Phonics should be taught all the way to 12th grade here in MH due to the fact that Seniors are reading out loud in class and cannot pronounce the simplest of words or can barely read at a thought rate higher than a 2nd grader. MH should budget cut back to the basics of education (reading, writing and arithmetic) and then rebuild from there! Everyone wants to say we need to take care of our children--it won't do any good that "Johnny" can throw a ball if he can't even read or write.

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 6:54 AM

Also Opionionmissy, there are 2 kinds of research, qualitative and quantitative. Your qualitative researching skills are very sub par, no real correlation between fact and opinion. Quantitatively you had no real data to correlate with your hypothesis. You should really study researching before claiming that research is a major part of your life.

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 6:33 AM

Ohhhhh, that is rich opinionmissy was educated in Illinois, all Illinois is known for corruption and misappropriation remember Blogovich? In fact in recent history 4 Illinois governors have been convicted.

Obama 2012

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 6:12 AM

Gee, whatever will opinionmissy focus her ranting negativity on for the next two years? Maybe she could focus more on getting a life :)

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 5:56 AM

Yowza. Shazam. Jimany Christopher. Great balls of fire!

mh.(stop)educated.(stop)adult. Did that make you feel super duper and all warm and fuzzy. I am not sure I understood that diatribe of superiority and just general specialness.

Now I remember why I have never posted on here prior. Some of the writing on here is a good advertisement for all that is wrong in this country with education.

I voted for Corder, against the hospital, against the levy and for Nick Nettleton.

Zero chance my name is lucky or that Publishers Clearing House will knock on my door with a big, fat check, flowers and balloons.

Sometimes the largest threat to a person is the one with facts. The person who shows up to a meeting and everyone says oh God why me? That person is generally the one that threatens a house of cards. You have to wonder how 1 person can make so many so uncomfortable with their own information. Guess it pays to know the facts.

No where are those Tums?

-- Posted by cat.williams on Wed, May 16, 2012, at 1:52 AM


Now THAT is funny... The woman who prides herself on being extremely informed, has once again shown how superior she is since she, thank goodness, was educated in Illinois. Oh bravo...that definitely makes you better than all the rest of us pitiful Idahoans. You understand the quality of education here in Mountain Home...no wait, in all of Idaho? Oh ya, that is rich! You toured a charter school? Oh my goodness, that DOES prove everything you have said about MHSD is true. (By the way, a charter school is different than an alternative school, and they are different than a traditional public school; and of course there are other types of schools, as well. You say you have the facts and have received all the necessary information from the state department, but truth be told, you aren't calling them the right names, and just one example that makes this impossible to sort out is you are not lining up the information with the appropriate types of schools, including their means of receiving funds.) You come to Idaho and slam Idaho's ability to educate the good people who love and value this great state. Everyone out there who likes Idaho, who appreciates having ties to Idaho, who has received an education in Idaho, uh, Opinion Missy has just hinted that we are, hmmmm, shall we say, "Stupid"... What, too harsh? Okay, victims to the scourge of the education in the town of Mountain Home, and other places in Idaho. OM, you poor thing, having to rub elbows with all us stupid people.

Hey, feel free at any time to make a run for the border...IL will probably take you back, although they must be a far superior place than ID, and there may be some restrictions that apply. But I wish you all the luck in getting back to the place you have such fond memories of.

And not that you will care, but notice my screen name again; let me give you a free tutorial...a piece of information I learned in my years of Idaho education. A period means to stop; to pause for a period of time; to break from what was before. (If it would be easier for you I can give you some analogies, or easier still, some synonyms...did you learn about those in IL? Oh good, then we might have received a similar education...you don't take offense to that do you? You know, to put myself in your category?) Look at the screen name... See? mh does in fact mean Mountain Home (good call!). Notice there is a period (see earlier explanation of what a period does). Next comes "educated" and again a period. Yep, I am educated (all three of my degrees come from Idaho schools. I know that obviously does not "impress" you, but I really don't care what impresses you. I actually believe nothing matters to you except whatever you can spin to get people all suspicious, afraid, and worked up so you will have something to complain about while at your hair dresser's, at the store, while on break at work...pretty much everywhere... hmmm, wasn't that the technique used in Europe around the 40's to blame all the economic woes on a group of people in order to have someone to lash out at? but I digress...back to my screen name). And I am an adult (don't want you to accuse me of "just" being a kid; therefore, not having anything of value to say...as I remember some people with posts here have done in the past.) So if you look at my screen name again, what it means is that I am an educated adult living in Mountain Home. Don't want you to get confused and think I am lying to you, like this evil, dirty, lowdown, group of people at the district office and in our schools, as well as all these other entities you believe are just out to steal your hard-earned money, or your land or water or electricity, or whatever else you see as a cause to set people against each other...not that it matters, but I did not attend school in MH, (however, I would be proud to have gotten my education in Mountain Home) but way to make that assumption. Do you make assumptions much?

Oh golly, I have probably handed you your next cause right there on your lap... The prevention of unclear screen names. Have at it!

By the way, next time you set up residence somewhere, try not to be so hard on those "beneath you" who call that place their home! For once, just keep it to yourself...people don't like to be "reminded" that they are "inferior" to others. People are funny that way.

-- Posted by mh.educated.adult on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 11:53 PM


County Commissioner

1st District (Republican)

R. Daniel "Dan" Corbus - 324

Franklin "Bud" Corbus - 819

Courtney C. Ireland - 742

Nick Nettleton - 750


County Commissioner

1st District (Democrat)

Brandon Beckham - 296


County Commissioner

3rd District (Republican)

Albert Hofer - 2168


County Commissioner

3rd District (Democrat)

Michael Crawford - 301


County Sheriff (Republican)

Rick Layher - 2345


School Supplemental Levy

Yes - 1791

No - 1187


Hospital Question

Yes - 2480

No - 845


Senate District 23 - GOP

Bert Brackett - 3009

Tim Corder Sr. - 2230


House 23B - GOP

Pete Nielsen - 2225

Matthew Bundy - 1498

Steven Millington - 1144

-- Posted by stopcorrupt87 on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 11:24 PM

Corder lost, hospital passes, Corbus wins and school levy passes.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 11:17 PM

I was in attendance for 2 full meetings, thank you. Let me try to explain some of the key points of misinformation for you since it is clear that you will not do it yourself, as I have done.

First, the pay cuts for the teachers were a total. For each year indicated in the packets given out, for teacher pay cuts, a percentage was listed. As an example only---the MHSD Admin. listed the cuts (again, my figure is an example only) as 2.5% for year 1. Then, for year 2, the cut was listed as 5.5%. I believe, from memory only (as I do not feel the need to dig this garbage up) that they listed a 5 year period. For each year listed, they carried the previous year's cut over to the next year. This maade the figures look like these teachers were taking a larger cut than they really were as each year included the cut for the prior year. Very much not factual.

In this same packet, the MHSD indicates that the online classes would take funding from the district. There are 3 choices for online schooling. If the MHSD chose 1 of those 3 options, they would have to pay an outside firm to teach that class. The other 2 options allowed the district to not have any costs or loss of funds. Now if they choose one of those options and choose to pay an outside firm to teach, that is on the MHSD and their choice. Online courses will also be taught by Idaho teachers---not teachers out of state.

Pay for performance. It was stated that PFP would mainly be for hard to fill positions. It is for hard to fill positions but it will also be paid to the teachers who perform---who go above and beyond. Now if there is a beef with this I guess it would be with those who decide who gets this and who does not---NOT the State Dept. of Ed.

It was also indicated that the teachers lost their ability to have collective bargaining throught the union. Not really true. Collective bargaining is still alive and well for teacher pay and benefits. For things such as bell schedules, it put the power in the hands of the local districts. Why should the state decide bell schedules? The reason this upset the MHSD so is because now when the MHSD Admin./Board are forced to set policy and the teachers are not happy, our local folks have their butts in the fire and are accountable. Very easy in the past to blame those "hard nosed, bone heads" in Boise---now, the local districts have more control and will be forced to be accountable. IMAGINE THAT!!

Enrollment numbers. The enrollment numbers listed on page 1 of the packets handed out (in 2 places on page 1) were incorrect. It listed different numbers, on the same page---DIFFERENT NUMBERS. Neither were correct. This misrepresents enrollment numbers and made them look higher than they were. This is not factual information at the hands of the MHSD.

Next. On the page where they listed the cuts, the MHSD added language which stated (my words as I am not going to hunt for these packets) things the MHSD (and this is the good part) "MAY" cut. I asked what "MAY" cut meant in that meeting. Do you recall what that answer/response was? It was stated that those cuts were things that "MAY" be cut depending on how the state funding issues were worked out/not worked out. The packet never indicated that those cuts were waiting on the funding issues to be resolved and if those matters were resolved, the MHSD would avoid their "nuclear solution."

See, the MHSD is famous for the small print and the "MAYS" in life. This "MAY" be the reason why we are where we are at today.

I would have explained this all point by point in that room that night---and there were other issues as well (nearly 2 pages worth)---but Mr. Gilbert did not want to deal with the facts that night and the smoke they were blowing up the skirts of all in that room. Shall we talk about how the MHSD handles public input? Come on...shall we? I was NOT the liar in the room that night. It was all in the research and facts from the state. But we do not deal with facts around here very well.

There is a pattern here. You are correct, I have great disdain for the people who run the MHSD. I find it sad that we, as taxpayers, do not rate high enough to be given the truth. The threats and less than truthful info from the MHSD are shameful. This is what makes it hard for the kids in this community. These are people who should be trusted but as history has proven, anything they (the MHSD) says must be checked. What they said about McKenna was not factual nor was it fair. But hey, I guess all is fair when it comes to obtaining a levy. Win at any cost.

I have said time and time again that we have some wonderful, gifted and very talented students in this school district. Some of them even blog on here. Education is what you choose to make of it.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 10:14 PM

OnionMissy: Quick question for you - why do you feel the need to insult everyone who has been educated by the school system here in Mountain Home? While I do not agree with you on your view of the school district, and do not share your distrust of and utter disdain for the professionals in our district, I find it really unfortunate that you cannot even acknowledge that there are plenty of students, past and present, who are exceedingly successful, due in part to the education they received here or are receiving here.

By the way, the "facts" you presented to me in your previous comment were your opinion and you did nothing to explain your allegations. For example, you claim that the MHSD lied about the pay for performance and online classes. What did they say, exactly, and how does that conflict with the "facts" you discovered through your research?

I think it's really ironic that you are the "expert" on the BRC and you attended 1 and 1/2 of the meetings (unless you're not Tracy Lauric, who was only in attendance for 1 and 1/2 of the meetings).

-- Posted by idahogrown on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 9:12 PM


Your screen name says it all. That was the best you could come up with huh? At least my info on the MHSD is factual. Research is my life and how I get through my days and my trade. I was educated in IL. Thank you.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 8:25 PM


All the world is a conspiracy, isn't it? How do you make it through the days?

-- Posted by mh.educated.adult on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 8:17 PM


Have you brought this up with the district officials yet. I know I have been a pain to them from when I was on the no side. I was constantly watching what was going on at the schools in regards to levy and what they were putting on their billboards at the schools. I can tell you the principals I have seen have ensured that their teachers were not doing such activities on school grounds. Not even after school were they allowed to do this on school grounds. They were told they would have to go off campus and they did. If you have a complaint to make, call the district. I will make it easy for you as they are very easy to talk to. 208-587-2580 is the number and it can be found in the phone book. You should try calling them.

-- Posted by jrhkuna on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 7:50 PM

MH Resident,

The county commissioners had no choice but to approve Mayfield Townsite as the did what the applicants did all that was required per the County ordinances...ordinances that were written and input from the community was welcome, as to which very few came to those ordinance revision meetings...did you go voice your opinion?? I was at every single one mind you....me and 2 others. Had the county denied the application the lawsuits would have cost us a pretty penny as well.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 7:29 PM

Our children deserve better...vote yes.

-- Posted by jdvann on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 6:18 PM

I am a teacher in the MHSD. I have never mentioned the levy to my students, and when my students ask me about it, I tell them they need to talk to their parents. I personally don't believe it is appropriate to discuss that in my classroom. The kids need to get that information from their parents, not from me. Even when I am pressed by my students to tell them what I think, I refuse to answer, because it doesn't matter what my opinion is. Again, they need to learn that from their parents. My influence over my class should be about learning, not money and politics. So while there may be some who are discussing the levy with their classes, it is not coming from me.

-- Posted by questionposer on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 4:14 PM


I am in agreement with you. Yet the MHSD will deny that it is going on. MHSD at its finest.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 3:30 PM

If you think the teachers in this district are not discussing the levy with the students, think again. My student informed me last night which of her classes/activities would be cut should this levy fail, and that it was teachers that made the comments. I am appalled that teachers would do this and cause the students to be worried about this.

-- Posted by justone on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 2:23 PM

I think that I will register as a Republican today so I can vote for Mr. Corder.

School levy - yes

Hospital thing - undecided

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 10:47 AM

I dont care if your republican, democrat, left wing, right wing, liberal, conservative, or any other form of pollitical label, all I care about is that you get to the polls. You cant really voice an oppinion unless you vote, because then your rhetoric is but an idle wind that passes by me and I respect not. In other words VOTE!

-- Posted by Erica B on Tue, May 15, 2012, at 7:36 AM

idaho grown

Wrong guys quote. But anyway. I would like nothing more than have this district run by an administration that our community could place their trust and faith in. Maybe then I might be more open to the Charter School idea. But really.

A meeting before we get the results of the levy vote?? Business sense?? NO. Maybe the money from this levy is going to fund the start-up of the Charter Schools. You do know it will cost money correct? It really would not suprise me. So, if the levy is for status quo, where is the money coming from for the new schools? Another levy? And what if this fails? Any forsight with this bunch? I guess for us NO voters it comes down to the faith that we have in this admin. It is not about the students or the teachers. It is about our faith in the leadership of this dist. A NO vote would suggest NO faith, now what are you going to do about it????????

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:53 PM

Oh, now you want me to do your homework for you?

Here it is (in part):

Their enrollment numbers were incorrect (in more than one place).

What the state was doing was misrepresented (several times).

Their info on the online classes was misrepresented.

Pay cut information was misrepresented.

The collective bargaining info was misrepresented.

Pay for performance information was misleading and misrepresented.

And the list goes on and on.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:37 PM


Us "NO" voters have done our own research and do know the facts---they differ greatly from the info given out by the MHSD. It is really best to take the info provided on the MHSD web page and check that against what the state has.

And what an eye opener that can be for you. Do not take all that the MHSD states at face value. You will be greatly disappointed.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:31 PM


"That BRC was a sham. The MHSD did not want ideas. They were not even truthful in their information they were giving to the public in those meetings and that is a fact."

What info wasn't truthful?

-- Posted by idahogrown on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:27 PM


The "no" voters have no need for facts. In their mind the district has never made cuts, never will and continues to find ways to line their own pockets. Yes, the school district did make significant cuts PRIOR to the existing levy but "no" voters don't like to acknowledge that reality. And the reality is, state funding has not been restored to match the decrease two years ago which precipitated the need for the existing levy. We are now living with the Idaho State legislature's version of local control: we'll take your state funding away and you can ask local taxpayers to make up the difference.

Thank you for taking the time to do your own research, though, rather than just ranting in the comments section and throwing out pointed questions that you don't really want answers to.

-- Posted by idahogrown on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:19 PM

If you think voting "yes" for this levy will make things better for the kids, you are mistaken. This levy is about keeping the same number of teachers and keeping their pay.

If enrollment is down in this district (and it has been on the decline for the last 10 years) it would stand to reason that less teachers and staff are needed. Also, the MHSD did not make those salary cuts---the state did. The MHSD was AGAINST it. As a matter of fact, Jim Alexander stated that it was his number one goal, if the last levy passed, to reinstate teacher pay. How about some new books? It is all about the kids right?

What good are sports programs if these kids can't read, write and do math? How does that prepare them for college much less a job? College is meant to BUILD on prior education---not reinvent the wheel!

McKenna Charter School mandates that their students maintain at least a C- average for all classes. What does the MHSD mandate? So remind me again how knowing how to throw a football is going to help the kid who can't read and write and do basic math. Will that help this student get a high enough score on the ACT/SAT to get into a college?

I really liked your statement on FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. How has that been demonstrated? We "need" (want) a levy to maintain things beyond what the "budget" will pay for. Being "responsible" would be to only spend what is taken in. How long do you suppose we can continue to float a levy before cuts HAVE to be made?

And the last gem was your comment on the drop out rate. See, the MHSD Admin and their Board started that myth. They claimed there was a "disconnect" (imaginary as it turned out) in that the 9th graders were at the MHJHS as opposed to at the MHHS. When those of us out here checked the numbers with the State Dept. of Education vs. what the MHSD put out---they had (the MHSD) LIED. So now they have created an overcrowding issue at the MHHS while rooms at the MHJHS sit empty. And the best part---that "disconnect" that was created by the MHSD Admin. and Board---is NO better. So, you have the MHSD to thank for the false info on the drop out rate---we said it was a lie and we were right.

As for your other info on "cuts"---many of those positions were lost due to retirement and moves. This was not "financial responsibility" on the part of the MHSD Admin./Board. You are misguided on those parts.

A No vote on this levy may force the MHSD to EDUCATE these kids and focus less on extras----MAYBE. Just think what technology and books could be purchased if all of the "fluff" was removed from the budget and the focus was put back on education. Wow---ALL about the kids.

McKenna has no sports and those kids want to be at that school and do well.

A no vote on this levy is all about the kids and going back to education.

That BRC was a sham. The MHSD did not want ideas. They were not even truthful in their information they were giving to the public in those meetings and that is a fact.

NO-NO-NO. Giving these people more money is NOT the answer. Demanding accountability is key. If given the choice between books or sports, they would choose sports. How is that about educating the kids?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:17 PM


"And good grief, why would they even think about opening up another school/s if they can't maintain this district."

The Mountain Home School Board discussed the possibility of changing EXSISTING schools in the district into charters. I would think all of you no voters would like the idea of the MHSD looking for ways to bring additional revenue to the district. Charter schools receive approximately $2000 more per student per year. But if your disdain for the district forces you to oppose all ideas presented, you are just hurting students who would be the ones benefiting from additional funding.

-- Posted by idahogrown on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:08 PM


"Riddle me this, if student enrollment has declined, has staffing declined to match?"

School districts in Idaho receive funding from the state for teachers, support staff and administrators based on student enrollment. So as enrollment goes down, the funding from the state drops as well. The Mountain Home School District is currently staffed at the level reimbursed by the state (mind you, it's not full reimbursement). It's not in the best interest of the district (or taxpayers, for that matter) to have MORE staff than the state reimburses for nor is it wise to have fewer. You're basically giving money back to the state as well as affecting accreditation with your schools.

-- Posted by idahogrown on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 10:03 PM

I read in the minutes that we installed energy efficient lighting. NO BOOKS, but efficient lighting? The only efficient thing in the dist. The idea of these charter schools I guess is like mommy or daddy having to get a second job because they could not stay within their budget and the $500,000 house and $50,000 cars are about to go back to the bank. At least the bank is smart enough to quit qiving them money. Lets see some accountability, responsibility and common sense before we throw more good money after bad.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 9:30 PM

Their handpicked BRC made suggestions for cuts, but from what I understand the district would not do what was suggested by their own handpicked people. Some of those schools closed because there were no longer enough students to put into the classrooms. Check out older meeting minutes and newspapers. And good grief, why would they even think about opening up another school/s if they can't maintain this district. There is no way I will vote to give them more money and then watch them try and open another school when they can't handle this one. Good grief.

Another thing - TAXES WILL GO UP. If this levy does not pass, take a quess what - your taxes go down. So, by extending the levy you vote to tax yourself another two year at 5.4 million dollars.


-- Posted by midea on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 9:04 PM

You lost me at financial responsibility. Curious as to what is required for a GPA to graduate. How many classes can you fail or maintain a D. What might be the average GPA of our graduating seniors? Would be interesting to see it on a Bell Curve. What percentage of our graduates would meet entrance requirements to a 4 year University?? What percentage qualifies in the math and sciences?? Or do we consider college rediness as continuing to a community college(extended high school)?? What percentage of our graduates have excelled beyond basic entry level algebra??? What percentage have at least a year of extended chemistry or physics?? I guess may question is how many of our graduates would have to attend a junior or community college before being granted entrance to a 4 year school?? Is this district just preparing kids to be prepared to attend college? The list of so-called budget cuts mean nothing. No numbers. Did we need it in the first place? If we were wasting money in the first place I do not consider it a cut. Lets see some effort in the efficiency area. But if we truely want to be more efficient can STATUS QUO be maintained?? Looks to me like a whole lot of fat that should not have been in the budget to begin with was trimmed. Now lets get real serious and quit playing with words. This district need leaders with financial know how and a true desire to work for the tax payer, students, and teachers and get this distict and community united.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 8:56 PM

This levy will be used to maintain class sizes, transportation, student activities/athletics, and current staffing

Riddle me this, if student enrollment has declined, has staffing declined to match?

Adminitration travel

What is this? Why do they need to travel and what is the cost? Even the military tries to use teleconference if it is available.

Healthcare coverage reduced by 13%

Retired military are now paying for their "free" medical care for life.

Based the information provided by MHSD (minutes) and the promise 2 yrs ago that this levy was all that was needed, my vote is NO NO NO.

-- Posted by Old guy on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 8:53 PM

Yes, the levy is for 5.4 million dollars.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 8:49 PM

Vote Yes...a no vote only hurts our kids.

-- Posted by jdvann on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 8:48 PM

I was against the levy at first, now I am for the levy. Below is a review of why I switched my view point.

The Mountain Home School District is asking to extend the previous levy for 2 more years. Instead of asking for $2.8 million dollars each year, they are only asking for $2.7 million a year. Here is a breakdown from the school districts website.

* $2.7 Million Dollars each year, for two (2) years

$2.7 million dollars starting July 1, 2012, ending June 30, 2013

$2.7 million dollars starting July 1, 2013, ending June 30, 2014

This levy will be used to maintain class sizes, transportation, student activities/athletics, and current staffing

This levy replaces the expiring levy

MHSD is asking for less than the current $2.8 million dollar levy

The current $2.8 million dollar levy ends June 30, 2012

* No Tax Increase

It is important to note that passing this levy will NOT result in any property rates to increase. The increase has already been in place for the past 2 years. If the levy passes, the school district will be able to accomplish some important things for our children.





Each year, the district makes changes to adapt to new federal and state requirements and enrollment changes. Aside from these changes, the levy will be used to maintain the current district operations including, but not limited to the following.

* Maintain current bus routes

* Maintain student programs

* Maintain current class size loads

* Maintain current salaries for staff

There are individuals in the local community who claim that the school district has one of the largest drop-out rates in the state. This assumption is false. Did you know that in 2011, out of 240 seniors who begun the school year, 239 graduated. In 2010, 229 out of 231 graduated. You may ask yourself, what about their entire time as high school students. Surely there has to be a larger drop-out rate. The Idaho State Dept of Education has released that 90% of all students (during their 4 years) graduated from high school in the 2010-2011 school year.

Another reason why our School District needs the levy to pass is that Federal Funding is not enough to cover federally mandated programs. The special education funding is one example. Washington DC requires the school district to provide services for special education which cost approximately a little more than $3 million dollars each year. Mountain Home School district only gets about $800,000 in funding to support these mandates. This means there is a $2 million deficit in this one area.

So what has the school district done to help prevent a levy needing to be passed? Here is a list of some of the cuts that have been made prior to 2010, when the first levy was passed.

-Building budgets cut by 20%

-Adminitration travel

-No new textbooks, only replacements

-Closed base intermediate and middle school

-Insurance liability coverage reduced by 26%

-Healthcare coverage reduced by 13%

The school district has also made a number of cuts

-Cut 1 Superintendent-Curriculum Position

-Cut Superintendent's salary

-Administrator's salary frozen

-School Nurse was cut back in 1999

-Athletic Trainer was cut in 2004

-3 Elementary counselors were cut in 2004

-AR coordinators were cut at the buildings in 2009

-9 certified teacher positions were cut/retired (2009-2010)

-17 classified positions were cut in 2009-2010

-Library Aides were cut from Elementary and Hacker

-Maintenance positions were cut

-Classroom aides have been cut

So what are the dollar figures for the cuts that have been made because of the cuts in 2010-2011?

Mainteance/Supplies $140,000

Administrator PD $10,000

Referee Stipend $9,500

Liability Insurance $5,000

Eliminated Contract Biller $5,000

Freeze Step/Lanes $84,689

Furlough Days $609,119

-5 days for Teachers/Classified Positions

-9 days for Administrators

Activities Reduced $40,000

Recertification $15,000

Substitute pay (-11%) $45,000

Natural Helpers Stipend $3,600

Extended Contracts $3,640

Asst Dir. Maintenance $52,480

Total in Cuts 2010-2011 $1,023,028

So what was cut this year?

-1 District G/T Teacher

-6 remedial or Specialized classes at Middle School

-1 Special-Ed teacher @ Base Primary

-1 MHHS Librarian

-1 MHHS/MHJHS Video Production Class

-MHHS Carpentry Class

-1 ISAT Teacher at MHHS

-2 MHHS PE Teachers

-1 Administrator

-Parents as Teachers Program

-Modified Block Schedule at MHHS

So what are we looking at getting cut if the levy is not passed? Why is it important that we get out and vote? If we vote, we are voting to keep things the way they are and not making more cuts. Here is a list of what might get cut if the levy is not passed.

-1 MHHS foreign language program

-1 MHHS Business teacher

-1 MHHS Social Studies Teacher

-.5 Base primary Kindergarten

-District Activities Director

-Reducing the number of Elementary PE/Music teachers

Do you see where the district can make any more cuts? We don't. Remember to vote YES! on May 15 for the Mountain Home School District Levy.

-- Posted by jrhkuna on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 7:54 PM

WOW.... Have a meeting to discuss branching out before you even know if the levy has passed or failed. This type of management/administration NEEDS to be replaced. Either they know something we (their bosses) don't, or they are more clueless than I origionally thought. You can't even come close to even giving these folks the benefit of the doubt. You are completely failing in the management of the district, so lets get into something new?????? WOW!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 4:34 PM

Seems to me that they want the levy so they can open a charter school on the sly. They need to be able to monetarily handle the system they have before opening another school.

The number of students has dropped over the last 10 years. One school closed because of not enough students. You need to get used to today's economy MHSD. We have to as regular citizens. Upper levels (McMurtrey'S and so on) in the district need to see some pay cuts also, not the teachers.


-- Posted by midea on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 12:38 PM

School levy goes to vote on May 15---Tuesday.

Vote "NO." Demand accountability from the MHSD Admin. and their Board. We, as taxpayers, are not an endless supply of money.

Also, MHSD Board Meeting on May 15, 2012 to discuss the MHSD's plans to open a charter school. This should be fun. This is a perfect example of how we do things---do things poorly and then branch out to do more things poorly. These are the same people (the MHSD admin.) who CREATED a need for the McKenna Charter School way back when. Now, they want to compete.

No competition MHSD---McKenna is the far better institution for education in this community.

Review the MHSD Minutes and agenda. At least be informed before you vote.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, May 14, 2012, at 9:55 AM

Mr. 427:

"Do you support the Blue Ribbon Commission's decision to pursue a $2.7 million supplemental levy for the Mountain Home School District?"

First, it should be pointed out that several people who were hand picked to sit on the BRC (for this levy) called for an audit of the MHSD. One person in that room even offered to pay for the cost of such an audit and the MHSD happily declined.

Second, many of the people in that room felt that cuts needed to be made and should be made but could not agree on what to cut. The MHSD was not willing to cut, the sports parents would not agree to cut back in sports and the teachers---well, they felt they had given enough.

One thing that was said by the sports parents was that they would agree to cuts in sports programs as long as the MHSD put "some flesh in the game" as well. People wanted to see that everyone took a hit in the things they thought were important. In other words, if sports took a 500K hit then the sports parents wanted to see the same hit with the MHSD (my number is just an example). Nobody could agree on where/what to cut so it was "decided" that the only alternative was to try and obtain another levy.

To say that everyone in the room was on board or agreed to this is a bit misleading on the part of the Mountain Home News. There were a great many people in this room who felt that cuts should and needed to be made. There were also people who really questioned how the MHSD was spending money. There were also people (the teachers) who felt that everything was great and could not understand why people would not support this. 2 teachers kept talking about how their pay had been cut but they were expected to do more work.

If enrollment is on a steady decline, and has been for the last 10 years, it would stand to reason that less teachers and staff are needed. Less kids = Less Money

Less kids + Less Money = Less employess

Not rocket science unless of course you are the MHSD I guess.

2.7 Million dollar levy for 2 years = 5.4 million

The MHSD likes to state that taxes will not go up. Well, taxes did go UP when they started this 2 years ago and said it was temporary. So we have paid more. The sense of "entitlement" is disgusting. I see now where our young people get it from.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, May 12, 2012, at 9:32 AM

And the Mountain Home News is saying what?????

I agree Geoff, local papers should cover sleazy shenanigans.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 8:44 PM

The breathtaking amount of money being spent to alter the makeup of the legislature this election should make it clear what is at stake and who is really trying to run the show. The Twin Falls Times-News has an interesting account of how the campaign disclosure system is in need of serious reform, since it has loopholes big enough to drive a campaign bus through.


It's about time some local newspapers covered sleazy shenanigans like these, so voters can have the information they need to make an intelligent choice on election day.

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 7:28 PM

Ah excuse me, but that is 2.7 million for 2 years.

So the "TOTAL LEVY" is for "5.4 MILLION" dollars.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 12:50 PM

Do you support the Blue Ribbon Commission's decision to pursue a $2.7 million supplemental levy for the Mountain Home School District?

*Yes. The children and educators in this community need our support.: 34.3% (106 votes)

*Maybe, but is that $2.7 million too much or not enough?: 6.8% (21 votes)

*No. We pay enough already in property taxes.: 58.9% (182 votes)

I hope the results on Tuesday will be the same as this poll. Signed A Homeowner/Tax Payer

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 12:06 PM

Lost Chihuahua/Pug in the area of Haskett and Air Base Road. Lost last night, wind blew door open and the little dog got out. His name is Buddy, tan with a black face, tail curls up. Weighs about 15 lbs. If you have seen him or have him please call 599-5259 His owner is devastated

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 10:16 AM

Yes, I see the meeting on the 10th that you are referring to, but I was asking about a meeting for the 9th.

-- Posted by justone on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 8:34 AM

Briefings on draft F-35 environmental document begin Tuesday

Monday, May 7, 2012

Mountain Home News


Following the public release of its draft environmental impact statement last month, Air Force officials will host a series of public meetings regarding the possible beddown of F-35 fighters Mountain Home Air Force Base.

Local briefings regarding the next-generation fighter's impact on Mountain Home and surrounding communities are planned for the following dates and locations:

Thursday, May 10 -- Mountain Home Junior High School, 1600 East 6th South Street, Mountain Home

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 8:13 AM

Oh, well this is what is listed on the school website, so that is why I asked:

Daily Announcements

Sports schedules have been updated in the MHJH Sports Zone for Football, Volleyball, and Cross Country.

Lunch: Cheese Zombies / Taco Salad

Leadership "Pay it Forward" Food Drive May 1st - 8th

Levy Meeting: May 9th, 2012 in the JH Commons at 6:00 pm. All JH/HS parents are invited to attend.

-- Posted by justone on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 7:50 AM

That wasn't a levy meeting, it was an Air force F-35 meeting

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Fri, May 11, 2012, at 7:33 AM

Does anyone know what was said at the Levy meeting last night (at the Jr.High)? Didn't notice it in the announcements until today.

-- Posted by justone on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 6:48 PM

In the northern part of Idaho, the local electric utility Avista, is trying to do the same thing Idaho Power's lobbyists (AKA former Otter chiefs-of-staff) are trying to do here with Tim Corder: make good on their threats.

Take the last sentence of the third paragraph of the article below and replace "Avista" with "Idaho Power" and you'll have a clear picture of what's probably going on here:

"I'm George Eskridge's son, and a lobbyist myself. I agree with Avista that the article wasn't quite clear enough on the fact that Avista warned my father several months ago, during Idaho's legislative session, that if he didn't vote Avista's way that Avista would be sure that Rep. Eskridge wouldn't be re-elected."


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 6:22 PM

Richard McKenna is sounding better and better every day.

Mountain Home School District needs to knuckle down and take some training from McKenna in how to handle "business." No go to giving away another 5.4 million to be squandered. No books are going to be bought out of that 5.4 million?


Ummmm - 2.7 million @ 2 year Levy = 5.4 million.


-- Posted by midea on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 5:51 PM

I find it very unfortunate that the MHSD Board would refer to students in such a negative way (the weeded out comment in their Minutes). Not every student can learn in a "traditional" setting. Sometimes students need teachers that can explain things in another way because their brains work differently (not wrong mind you, just different).

I toured McKenna today. I saw happy kids---kids who were engaged---involved in what was going on. I talked with 2 students who would be going to McKenna in the next school year. These kids wanted to be at McKenna. I asked a young lady if she felt she would be missing out on sports or the "traditional" education experience of the MHSD. She stated that it was important that she get an education so she could get into a good college and she did not feel that sports were important. She was really happy to have the opportunity to go to McKenna.

I met Mr. Slade too. He is a really nice, down to earth man. He walked into the office that I was in and just introduced himself. He sat down and talked to me for a few minutes and answered a few of my questions. Big difference between McKenna and MHSD.

Nice job McKenna! You have a wonderful facility and a very gifted team to grow those young minds. McKenna---where education is about education and---THE KIDS. Nice job. Thank you for the tour on such short notice and all of the info you provided for me to take home.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 5:43 PM

That is what I thought, McKenna took the students the High School did not want! And then turned them into good students!

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 4:31 PM

Actually, there were 5 in my mailbox today- four from Idaho Prosperity Fund's sleaze factory, and one from Bert "IACI Approved" Brackett himself.

Here is one thing to be outraged over on one of the sleaze factory fliers; they termed Brackett "The Battle Tested" candidate. That statement is false. Unless, of course, they're referring to Brackett's battle with the US Air Force over the training range expansion. Hard to tell who 'won' that battle- since he ended up with a million dollar payoff to drop his opposition to the range expansion. It even earned Brackett a spot on Tom Brokaw's "Fleecing of America"


At the time, Brackett's daughter worked for Larry Craig, Kempthorne's colleague in the US Senate. Funny how that all worked out.

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 4:00 PM

My daughter is about to graduate RMHS and my son will in a few years, and I can honestly say it was the best decision we ever made moving our kids from MHHS. The level of professionalism and education/learning at RMHS is above par is all areas. From the kids wearing conservative uniforms, lessing the drama/bullying from wearing street clothes, to the strong enforcement of the "Golden Rules" the kids must follow or be expelled. Both my children tested these rules, as all children will do, thinking its like the MHHS and nothing will be done. They learned that rules in life will be followed or consequences will be swift, something they never once worried about at MHHS. They are required to keep a 2.0 GPA or have to retake the class, MHHS didnt care if my kids passed or failed, they would just keep them moving on. I encourage all parents sick and tired of MHHS to take a tour of RMHS, you will be very impressed at what/how your kids could be learning, and quite possibly angry at MHHS for the lack of this.

-- Posted by scoutin on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 3:48 PM

4 mailings in one day from Brackett!!!! Seriously? I won't vote for the guy just for being annoying! It's obvious the establishment is promoting him

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 3:44 PM

Oh! Geoff, when you get home---you will have 4 more mailings in your mail box to be outraged over. If you were not employed by the MHSD you would probably be outraged at the garbage they are pulling. But hey...one thing at a time. We can only deal with so many crooks, liars and cheats at a time I guess.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 3:11 PM

Mr. Murray:

Your answer contains nothing but "fluff" with respect to the Tier II designation of Charter Schools and Online Schools. It was a very good attempt at covering the behinds of your fellow trustees who very clearly were caught with their pants down (nothing new there).

The Defense Authorization Bill of January, 2012 (clearly PRIOR to the MHSD Board of Trustee Minutes of April, 2012) clearly states the following:

"a measure that ensures graduates of online public schools are placed on equal standing when applying to join the military."

So what else can you come up with to make this pigs ear a silk purse? If the MHSD Board could just be truthful. These are just the things that compromise education in this community and make the voters bitter. We SHOULD be able to trust you people (key word should). But at every turn, the MHSD Board is being dishonest (and to be clear, the MHSD admin is just as guilty). Then, you wonder why people do not support what you are doing or what you claim to be doing.

Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies.

SOP with this crew. If it really was "all about the kids" the MHSD would be a bit more truthful. You guys need an indep. audit. Something stinks!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 3:08 PM

Another excerpt from the April 10 MHSD meeting minutes just prior to the McKenna comments:

"Discussion began regarding the possibility of our district considering converting one or two schools into Charter Schools. We would receive about $2,000 more per student as a Charter School versus as a public school."

But it's all about the kids, right?

I vote "NO"

-- Posted by TT205TS on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 8:48 AM

From the MHSD web regarding levy info:

"This levy will be used to maintain class sizes, transportation, student activities/athletics, and current staffing"

So---no books? No technology?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 8:10 AM

Does anyone know why MHSD does not allow the students at Richard McKenna to participate in after school sports at the high school? I know children who are homeschooled are allowed to participate in after school sports on MHSD teams, but McKenna students are not. My son is an athlete and I would love for him to attend McKenna, but he would lose out on after school athletics. Please correct me if I am wrong.

-- Posted by swmom on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 7:16 AM

It would be very interesting if we could somehow compare McKenna and MHHS scores on the military entrance exams. As a taxpayer or parent or even student, you really owe it to yourself to make a visit to McKenna. It is like entering a place of business. I believe the last time I was there, the students were all wearing McKenna shirts (polo I believe) and no pants dragging the ground in the rear. I want to say that the students shoes even fit properly and were tied. The school presents a nice image. We need to remember the levy is not about McKenna. The school is managed profesionally and is financially sound. This is about the financial/operational mess that our (taxpayer) district is in. McKenna- How about a loan???

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Thu, May 10, 2012, at 6:57 AM

Mr. Murray:

Here is what your fellow Board of Trustees said--

"that the Air Force won't even accept their diploma and won't let them enlist.

Chairman Alexander said that McKenna has always been allowed to do whatever they want. He said that what he thinks McKenna has done over the years is that they weed out the students they don't want. McKenna doesn't take special needs students, which is in violation of Federal Law, and they have led a charmed life."

It does not say in the MHSD Minutes that the USAF takes a "small percentage" of students. It states that the diploma will not allow these kids to enlist. Period.

Mr. Alexander states:

"that McKenna has always been allowed to do whatever they want. He said that what he thinks McKenna has done over the years is that they weed out the students they don't want."

This is an "ironic" statement in that way back when, McKenna took the kids that the MHSD "weeded out" for one reason or another. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Seems like the MHSD Board of Trustees is a bit "puckered" over the fact that McKenna has done one heck of a job. They have a brand new building that is paid for and will in the near future add on to that facility. Pretty darn impressive.

Why would the MHSD District Board trash this school in their Minutes? It says a great deal about the lack of integrity of the people on the MHSD Board of Trustees. Do any of you have any shame?

For being "All About The Kids" things sure are ugly on the part of the MHSD Board of Trustees towards McKenna. McKenna students are also the future of this country and should not be made to feel like anything less.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 11:51 PM

Super job McKenna. You do a fantastic job for and with the students that you have. Thanks so much. Seems like Mtn. Home school board could learn a ton from you folks.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 10:05 PM


You are correct, graduates of Richard McKenna have enlisted in the Air Force in years past.

Recently I was quite surprised when I had a young man who I thought would do very well in the Air Force inform me he could not join the Air Force. I asked him why he could not join the Air Force and he informed me he was a graduate of Richard McKenna. In my previous experiences that should not of prevented him from joining the Air Force. I called the Military Entrance Processing Station in Boise and I was informed Richard McKenna was no longer a Tier 1 school and had been changed to a Tier 2 school for the Air Force

What this means now, a graduate from Richard McKenna falls into the same category as someone who only has a GED. Yes, a Richard McKenna graduate can still enlist in the Air Force, but in years past the Air Force caps the number of enlistments from the Tier 2 category at 3% of their annual goal. Once the Air Force reaches the 3% they will not allow anymore Tier 2 applicants to enlist for the year.

AFI 36-2001 is the recruiting regulation for the Air Force and here is the link


Paragraph 2.12.5 covers the Tier group's

The intent of the alternative school is to better the district and to give a group of kids a different learning experience but still provide them with a diploma that is accepted as an equal to all High School diplomas

William Murray

-- Posted by WilliamMurray on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 9:47 PM

Disgraceful?? The entire concept of this admins management is a disgrace to the taxpayers of this district. A big statement must be made. Changes must be made in the near future. This admin fails to remember who they work for. If you fail to perform, then changes (replacements) should be made. This admin is far to comfortable hiding in their big white building making policy that is not in the best interest of students, teachers, or taxpayers.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:58 PM

Open mouth very very wide. Insert foot. Very powerful.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:39 PM

"Trustee Checketts asked how McKenna gets away with having a Charter School with underperforming

students; McKenna hasn't ever made AYP. He said that the Air Force won't even accept their diploma

and won't let them enlist. Chairman Alexander said that McKenna has always been allowed to do

whatever they want. He said that what he thinks McKenna has done over the years is that they weed

out the students they don't want. McKenna doesn't take special needs students, which is in violation of Federal Law, and they have led a charmed life."

Letter to the Editor Re: Above (in paper today).

McKenna Sets The Record Straight

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Mountain Home News

Dear Editor,

As a current Board Member of the Richard McKenna Charter High School, I wish to set the record straight with regard to disparaging remarks in the Mountain Home School District Board of Trustees meeting minutes of April 10, 2012.

The students at Richard Mc-Kenna successfully passed Idaho's AYP tests last year. Our students are some of the hardest working youth in Mountain Home, and our teachers are outstanding.

We do not weed out the challenged students. In fact, we embrace them and nurture them through their educational years so they can face the world prepared upon graduation. Our graduation diploma is the same state standard diploma that any graduate of any Idaho public school receives.

It is certainly recognized by our U.S. Military, and our students are just as eligible for service as any other high school graduate. Please refer to the FY 2012 Defense Authorization Bill which clarifies this and was signed into law by the President of the United States.

As for the allegation that we violate Federal Law by not accepting special needs' students, that simply is not true. We have a number of students with special needs and an excellent instructor that really knows how to reach these challenged students.

The fact that the chairman, Jim Alexander, and one of the trustees, Rick Checketts, of our local Mountain Home School Board would make such disparaging, incorrect statements on the record regarding another public school in Mountain Home is disgraceful.

I believe a full public apology to the students and staff of Richard McKenna Charter High School is in order. I encourage the public to go to www.mtnhomesd.org, school board section, SB meeting minutes and review these cheap shots yourself.


-- Douglas B. Mayne, Board Member Richard McKenna Charter High School

Great letter Mr. Mayne and another good reason not to throw any more money at these idiots---to be clear---the Mountain Home School District. They are so dishonest. Now they want to open an alternative school too. You guys cannot even run what you have much less take on more.

Way to go McKenna! You really have made it all about the kids. Job well done. Thank you for providing quality education to the children of this community. THANK YOU-THANK YOU-THANK YOU.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:08 PM

Bearhunter: thanks for the update on Atlanta news. However, you seem a little annoyed this is old news and some/most news from Atlanta isn't getting reported. Seems like you have a few options to get information out in the public. Keep on reporting here or other local websites. You could also start your own website???

-- Posted by bondyweb on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:06 PM

Obama 2012

Kudos to same sex marriage, down with the religious nut jobs in this country.

Republicans are knee jerks who are just trying to help make this a two class system without realizing that the two classes will be the Koch brothers, their cronies, and everyone else will be minimum wage lackeys.

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 6:25 PM

Finally, in the Idaho Statesman, a story was published about the Atlanta Quick Response Unit and the ECPA filed charges against Kathy Makin for embezzling 11,000.00 from the QRU account. This happened back in June of last year and they are just now getting around to filing charges. She has not been arrested but there is an arraignment on the 23rd. She was quoted as saying that this was not newsworthy and would be handled privately. That the money would be put back. What a crock. She stole public money and has a criminal record a mile long and the county is waiting for what???? There are a lot of people tired of locals breaking the law in Atlanta and nothing is done about it. I hope the commissioners are following this and think seriously about the viability of having a QRU there.

-- Posted by bearhunter on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 4:15 PM

I rarely post on this forum but as I was reading the paper today I noticed an editorial from a Richard McKenna Board member that made me so angry that I had to comment on it. To clarify it wasn't what he stated but the subject matter that irritated me. It seems that the MHSB members are taking time during their meeting to discuss how poorly McKenna is performing and running. Here it the exact quote from the Mountain Home School Board Meeting minutes from 10 Apr 2012.

"Trustee Checketts asked how McKenna gets away with having a Charter School with underperforming students; McKenna hasn't ever made AYP. He said that the Air Force won't even accept their diploma and won't let them enlist. Chairman Alexander said that McKenna has always been allowed to do whatever they want. He said that what he thinks McKenna has done over the years is that they weed out the students they don't want. McKenna doesn't take special needs students, which is in violation of Federal Law, and they have led a charmed life."

That statement is an outright lie. I know several students (some of which who now serve in the Armed Forces) that have graduated from Richard McKenna and I have heard nothing but good about that school. In my opinion they have surpassed anything that the MHSD has accomplished in recent years. As a member of the school board you would think that you would leave the trash talk at the door and discuss how to better improve your district. I am completely with the author of the editorial and think that the school board should issue a full apology to all individuals at Richard McKenna including students. What a disgraceful thing to say and I for one will not ever support the MHSD again unless they start to revamp their attitude.

I for one am thankful for Richard McKenna Charter School for the top notch job they do at education the young men and women of Mountain Home.

-- Posted by Guardian on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 3:49 PM

Geek--not scare lore but fact. I didn't receive any emails about the treaties so I can't comment on those. Obama followers--the couple that runs Snopes.com and Huffington post--oh yea, they'll tell you what Obama wants you to know.




-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 9:57 AM

And the hits just keep on comin'.

Four of the PACs mentioned in this article are responsible for part of the avalanche of sleazy mailers we keep getting.


Interesting statement by Speaker of the House Denney in the article:

"Denney said he didn't know Esposito was targeting Republican incumbents until he was informed by a Statesman reporter.

"I have never, ever gotten involved in any races involving senators," Denney said Tuesday, the day campaign finance reports were due. "As far as the House members, I think it's poor form to work against incumbents in a primary."

Maybe Denney should mention that to our own Pete Neilsen, who gave $500 out of his campaign to Senator Corder's opponent in the 2010 primary, along with $900 from tax-dodging timber thief Phil Hart.

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:43 AM

Scare Lore, just keep believing this Cr*p, republicans are such a bunch of lemmings heading toward the cliff--Bon Voyage!!!

"Arms Trade Treaty" will allow the UN to control guns in America and essentially wipe out the 2nd Amendment

A quick search of the Internet (on Feb 8, 2012) confirms that the treaty is highly controversial in the United States and has been fodder for political speeches, blogs, viral political e-mails and advertisements claiming or insinuating that the treaty provides a "legal way around the 2nd amendment," and a "complete ban on all weapons for U.S. citizens." Snopes.com, the "urban myth" tester, calls the viral e-mail "scarelore" and false.[14] The Huffington Post reports that "such a scenario remains virtually impossible."[15] The Los Angeles Times reports on October 23, 2011 that "only a narrow fringe purports that Americans could see their guns taken away by the U.N., which has no authority over constitutional rights."[16]

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:40 AM

idahogeek---just a small list of things that Obama and Hillary are working on--FYI--Bush opposed all of these.

"Law of the Sea Treaty" which would strip us of the right to control our own coastlines as we deem fit.

"Right of the Child Treaty" make it mandatory for welfare, medicaid and foreign aid. So in simple terms-we will be forced to supply these entitlements to the whole world.

"Arms Trade Treaty" will allow the UN to control guns in America and essentially wipe out the 2nd Amendment

Some of these treaties, Obama can sign without Senate approval. Obama and Hillary are working on turning us over to the UN and wiping out the Constitution. If, God forbid, they succeed in any of these-you won't have to worry about what Repubs do with Education or Transportation or Social services the UN will dictate to us on these matters.

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 8:21 AM

Obama 2012, wish I had heard this much negativity toward a president when little Hitler Bush was taking away our civil freedoms, and getting us into a war that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda (Iraq), plus giving away the countries wealth to Wall Street.

OpinonMissy, you are about the most negative person I have ever heard, nothing positive ever is written by you, I feel sorry for you. You must be a real peach at parties.

Once the republicans cut Education, transportation, social services, and everything else the repubs want to cut I'll be happy to see who comes crying on here when the states raise our taxes to death to cover these expenses, someone has to fix roads & infrastructure, and take care of the indigent, and since it won't be the federal government, who will it be? Sure won't be Wall Street!

P.S. Think about it, our police and firefighters they are a form of social democracy, people pooling tax money together to perform a social service, protecting our community, guess since social is part of the equation they won't be supported under the republican doctrine, otherwise it would a hypocritical.

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Wed, May 9, 2012, at 7:30 AM

OM No point only a question. Yes or No will do!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 10:17 PM

One has to respect the position, not the man or woman in that position. Respect is earned, not just handed out to a person because they have a certain position. Think of it like this: Just because Hitler was the leader of a country didn't mean everyone had to respect him.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 9:22 PM

Yes MsM. What is your point?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 9:13 PM

OM Isn't your Husband stationed here?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 8:07 PM

Latest sunshine report from the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry's sleaze factory, the "Idaho Prosperity Fund" is out. Just today, they spent $11,400.00 more, paid to Florida and New York marketing firms on Bert "IACI Approved" Brackett- this on top of all the other junk mail we've gotten.

So much for "Buy Idaho.", huh?


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 6:47 PM

Ooppps. forgot the part about military town. This is a military town---ALL the more reason to not support Obama as he has NO respect for our military men and women.

Respect is earned.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 6:40 PM

Respect our President just because he is "President." Why? Why would I respect anyone who feels the need to say he is sorry for "his people?" Why would I respect someone that bends to another leader? Why would I respect someone that sells us out on an open mic? And last but not least, why would I respect someone who supports every other country/nation but America? Please, tell me why again. You are lucky that was all that was on those signs.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 6:38 PM

I went to the Post Office today and was very offended by what I saw out front. There were 2 people set up outside with derogatory signs and information about our President. They had even drawn a "Hitler" moustache on President Obama's face! I am all for freedom of speech, but this man is still our President and should be respected simply for that- especially in a Military town! I am surprised that a government facility would allow bashing against our President ! Tacky.

-- Posted by idahogal on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 3:59 PM

Three more fliers today! One was from "GUN-PAC" and now a third from "Idaho Chooses Life".

Outsiders are spending thousands on this race- and we will be the ones who lose if their sleazy tactics succeed.

You can read more about the behind-the-scenes shenanigans that go on in coordinating these mailers- run by Idaho House Speaker Denney, Majority Leader Mike Moyle, and others who have an axe to grind against Tim Corder for standing up for you instead of doing their bidding.

"House Speaker Lawerence Denney, R-Midvale, also has contributed to GUN PAC, said Lou Esposito, a consultant to the PAC who is close to Denney.

GUN PAC is using mailers to support another five challengers to GOP incumbents: Maurice Clements over Sen. Patti Anne Lodge of Huston, Matt Dorsey over Rep. Christy Perry of Nampa, Danielle Ahrens over Sen. Shawn Keough of Sandpoint, Pam Stout over Rep. George Eskridge of Dover, and Douglas Pickett over Sen. Dean Cameron of Rupert.

Esposito, who was Denney's appointee to the first Redistricting Commission in 2011, also is consulting with two other PACs producing direct mailers in GOP primary contests, Land PAC and Free Enterprise PAC. A fourth group, Idaho Chooses Life, is opposing GOP incumbents including Sen. Lodge and Sen. Tim Corder, R-Mountain Home, who faces incumbent Sen. Bert Brackett, R-Rogerson, because of redistricting."


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 12:49 PM

Really?? Impeach Obama?? Would it not be less expensive and as effective to vote him out in November?

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 12:02 PM

I respect your freedom of speech to be in front of the Post Office But the picture of our President you have is Hateful. Didn't vote for him.... But he is our President. We should respect the office. Take the picture down.

-- Posted by R&M on Tue, May 8, 2012, at 11:56 AM

I'm pointing out that people like Butch Otter's chief of staff-turned-Idaho Power lobbyist and his cronies at the "Idaho Prosperity Fund" are, for the second or third time, trying to install their own tool in place of the Senator the voters of Elmore County chose in the last three elections. That the Republicans chose to limit voter participation is something that makes that job easier for people who have anything but the interests of Elmore County voters in mind. Add to that the thousands and thousands of dollars being spent to influence the outcome of this election and you can plainly see who's trying to dictate- it ain't me, it's the secret revolving door group of sleazy lobbyists who want to tell you who to vote for. I'm just pointing out who's really behind this, and what people need to do if they want to have a senator who will work for them and not check to see what Idaho Power's lobbyists want him to do.


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 2:00 PM

You're either a Republican or Democrat. Decide. Liberal-Democrat Conservative-Republican. Not real complicated. If you play for the other team, join that team.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 1:01 PM

Here's Betsy Russell's excellent article on the potential effects of the Republican Party's decision to close the primary. Maximum voter participation has never been more important:


Meanwhile, she also calls attention to the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry's second attempt to take away our voice in the Idaho Legislature, Tim Corder. In 2008, they spent over $11,000 on that effort, including sleazy fliers misusing the US Army uniform. I bet they've tripled that this year trying to get Butch's stooge elected instead.


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 12:32 PM

Amen, Geoff!! Glad to read you on the banter box.

-- Posted by senior lady on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 11:23 AM


Zook "retired." He still comments but he was tired of beating his head against a wall. Look for him on the range. He is out there.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 9:43 AM

A great editorial with some very wise advice, especially applicable here in Elmore County. If you want to have a voice, register and vote Republican in the primary May 15:


Best takeaway quotes:

"You should have a say in who is going to represent you at the state and county level. If you want a voice, voting Republican is the only practical way to help decide our next leaders.

Because the Idaho Republican Party has closed its primary to anyone who doesn't register with the party, you have two choices: Stay at home on May 15 and be silenced, or make your documented party of preference a matter of public record.

This isn't just whining from disgruntled liberals and wimpy moderates. Many Republicans -- including conservative GOP candidates -- aren't crazy about the system, implemented last year when the state party successfully sued Idaho Secretary of State Ben Ysursa for the right to close its primary.

If so many party members are lukewarm at best on the concept, why do we have it in the first place? Because, simply put, the Idaho Republican Party is too big and too powerful. The same people who profess to oppose tyranny have, wittingly or unwittingly, become masters of it."

If we don't get out and vote this May 15, Butch Otter and his revolving door lobbyist cronies will replace our own Tim Corder with their hand-picked, bought-and-paid-for tool, Bert "IACI-approved" Brackett. Don't let that happen!

-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Mon, May 7, 2012, at 9:42 AM

Holy Cheese and Rice Batman, this is insane! Some people are letting this get a little heated and in my humble opinion "out-of-hand." If you dont like the levy, this is gonna be a radical notion...Don't Vote For It!!!! I mean if you are that bent about it, seems like an easy fix. No one is holding a gun to anyones head, and the ugliness is a downer. Let's all take a deep cleansing breath and let it go. Spend more time living life and less time full of angst! Just sayin is all.

-- Posted by fyrmom on Sun, May 6, 2012, at 9:06 PM

All I want to know is where is bazookaman. That was some good reading.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sun, May 6, 2012, at 4:43 PM

No Nomad, it will not because that person is probably related to someone either on the MHSD Board or is related to one of the people at the MHSD office (in Admin).

Just like talking about the levy in class and how stressed these teachers are about their jobs, etc.

Not appropriate for the classroom. But we will deny that too even when a student writes about it right here on this paper. Let us not forget the MHSD employee who blogs while on MHSD (Our) dime. Clearly against MHSD policy but is being allowed. It is no wonder why some of these kids can't pass a standardized test.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, May 6, 2012, at 10:17 AM

As mentioned in a previous post, this is not about the teachers vs tax payers. It is about those that are in charge of determining how the tax payer money will be spent to run the district, and about them realizing that our small city of trees does not have one that bears money.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Sat, May 5, 2012, at 10:27 PM

Should I vote for a levy to keep unknowledgeable teachers who have to look off their students class work to see how the math problem is done. Pretty sad for our students when the Trig/Pre-Calc teacher doesn't even know what he's doing. Will the levy help replace these teachers?

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Sat, May 5, 2012, at 9:13 PM

Anyone interested can look at these sites for what the School District is willing to put out for the voters.



-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, May 5, 2012, at 5:02 PM

Last thing we want to be around here is clear. It is much better to just sweep things under the rug and hope nobody takes notice.

This school levy is a big fraud. And Tiger, if you really look at things (ie the budget), very little was really cut---things were just redistributed and a levy was obtained. The MHSD is doing "without" very little---it is the kids that have the short end of the stick in this game. It is a big shell game. Mr. Ogborn moves money here and there and then can't explain where the "extra" money from the last levy has gone. Ya know---the "overage" from when the levy went through and what the state gave back in funding. There should have been a surplus waiting in the wind. Oh yeah! What about that?

And how about those MHSD Board Minutes (most recent). You guys did a bang up job slandering McKenna and did not even know what you were talking about---were not even a little bit factual. You are all a bunch of liars and blow hards who want to pass off the bad job that you have done (collective "you") and try to tarnish the image of the school in this area that really is ALL ABOUT THE KIDS. Nice job. Is this what you people resort to when you have nothing factual to bring to the table? You need some lessons in truth and integrity---all of you. You should be ashamed. You should all have the best interests of the kids at heart---but that is not the case. At least admit that.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, May 5, 2012, at 1:22 PM

Thanks OM

I thought for sure it is a 5.4 million dollar school levy. Thought I missed something. Yeah, you're correct. Paper should have made that a little clearer. Another 5.4 million dollars for school district - ouch.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, May 5, 2012, at 11:09 AM

What happened to bazooka man?

-- Posted by goatbeard on Fri, May 4, 2012, at 5:19 PM

THREE more multi-thousand dollar sleazy fliers in the mail today for Bert "IACI approved" Brackett, the Twin Falls County tool the corporate lobbyists want to have working for them instead of Tim Corder working for YOU. Can't wait to see how much Idaho Power, Micron, Simplot, and Union Pacific (financiers of the "Idaho Prosperity Fund") are spending this time around. Check the Secretary of State's Sunshine Reports to follow the money:


Two years ago, Pete Nielsen gave $500 to Tim's opponent, and tax-dodging timber thief Phil Hart gave her $900.


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Fri, May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM

Yes midea, you are correct. However our local paper chooses to portray the pig ear as a silk purse.

The levy is for 2 years and will cost 2.7 million per year for a total of 5.4 million. Now how hard was that to string into a sentence?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, May 4, 2012, at 9:33 AM

The levy is not for 2.7 million total. It is a two year levy renewal of 2.7 per year. That makes the levy a total of 5.4 million dollars, is that right?

5.4 million dollar levy

-- Posted by midea on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 10:12 PM

Uncomon Sense makes a lot of sense.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 8:13 PM

Tim Bondy did a great job of reviewing the Tuesday evening candidate's forum:


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 6:54 PM

And somehow the administration has turned this into taxpayers vs. teachers. Genius on their part. They do this by holding the money for the classroom over everybodys heads. Taxpayers and teachers should be on the same side. Don't blame the taxpayers for taking from the classroom, blame the administration.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 6:46 PM

Sports can always be added again once things stabilize. If things stabilize. Only one way that is going to happen and the people in charge are SO resistant to it.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 6:33 PM

Charter schools such as McKenna are unable to go for a levy.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 6:10 PM


McKenna. It is a public school with no sports. It is also a school that built a brand new building---ON A BUDGET---and paid off the loan EARLY by saving. Now, they are going to add on and that is PAID FOR---by SAVING. Larry Slade and the McKenna Board are doing something right and the kids enjoy going to school there. They wanted a wind turbine---they raised the funds for it. What a concept! No levy for McKenna.

You can make all of the excuses you want for them (the MHSD and their Board). They are irresponsible. There is zero accountability. What does their money manager, Cliff Ogborn do to earn $47.00 per hour? By looking at the budget and the "crisis" we are in, he is not hardly competent.

I say AUDIT. Yep. bottled water, dinners at Carmelas, trips that pay for affairs, cell phones and many, many other things are a red flag to over-spending, waste, fraud and abuse.

Justify away.

And the levy did raise taxes. At one point, we did not pay/have a levy. While this may not cause taxes to be higher as far as the MHSD---we do pay more because prior to this, there was no levy. I fail to see your reasoning on this point. Just because "everyone else" is doing it does not make this right. Spend what you take in. Period. If sports have to go, oh well. I would rather have kids that can pass standardized tests than kick a football. The law is the law. Education needs to get back to education and lose the fluff.

You are in dream land thinking parents would coach if the schools HAD to cut sports. People want it all taken care of---by someone else. That is the way it is.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 5:57 PM

We can only hope that Courtney McNicholl/Hiler/Ireland does not make it to ECC. She was bought and paid for by AEHI/Don G. when she sat on P & Z (along with at least one other on the P & Z) and could not even give an honest representation of what she stands for to this paper. Last thing we need is Courtney Ireland in a position of power or authority.

Courtney is out for Courtney. She did not care about this community while on P & Z...not likely to care about this community as an ECC. You want a sell out, vote for Courtney.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 5:37 PM

Ever wonder who "Idaho Prosperity Fund" is?

It's the political influence arm of the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry, Idaho's most powerful lobbying group.

Ever wonder how much those slick mailers supporting Bert "IACI" Brackett must have cost? Turns out, about $5500 each mailing. I've got about 7 so far.

Tim Corder must be doing something right for them to spend so much cash to try, for the third time, to get rid of him.


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM

Several years ago I could afford a beautiful vacation with stylish accommodations and excellent cuisine. It was a beautiful cultural experience that I will cherish forever. This year it's not within my budget. I cannot afford it without asking for a loan. Should I ask for a loan? No.... I will budget for the current economy and hope my future sees better times in the future. Should the school district ask for a loan? No! They should budget with the ebb and flow of the economy just like the rest of us!

-- Posted by TT205TS on Thu, May 3, 2012, at 10:13 AM

Kudos to Matt Bundy for taking on the status quo:


-- Posted by Geoff Schroeder on Wed, May 2, 2012, at 3:39 PM

Corrupt is going a bit far. I don't believe anyone is accusing the admin. of corruption. Toward the end of 2007 you would have had to of been completely asleep to not see the residential construction collapse looming. Lending agencies corruption was all over the news. It was very apparant that a big bomb was about to explode, and destroy our economy/real estate market. What pays for the schools?? Property taxes. Hard to collect property taxes from a forclosed piece of property. Thus, if the captains of our sinking ship would have had any forsight at all lets see where we might be. Nearly $2.0 million 2007-2008, nearly $2 million 2008-2009, nearly $2 million 2009-2010, nearly $2 million 2010-2011. Total nearly $8 million. Cost of levy, nearly $6 million. Result of forsight. Nearly $2 million in the black with no levy.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Wed, May 2, 2012, at 7:21 AM


A balanced budget is the hope of every school district. You ask if I have done my research and, as a a matter of fact , I have done as much as humanly possible with my free time.

On to your first comment about how tough cuts need to be made, although no one was willing to make any. I am wondering if my last comment was misleading. MHSD has CUT $1.84 million from its budget over the 2010-2011 budget year. Nearly $2 million dollars cut from the budget already. I certainly believe this is big step toward achieving a balanced budget.

Looking at the statues, you state that sports and other activities need to be sacrificed so that we have new books and maintained buildings. While it is true that sports and activities are not required by law, I challenge you to find a public school that does not have any sports or after school activities. I have seen districts where no money existed for sports, so the coaches donated their time without pay just to make sure the students still had that opportunity. I have no doubt that would happen here if there are no funds to run them.

And now, as we talk about the levy, it is being sold by some people as the worst thing that could happen to "enable" a failing school district and make the situation worse. In reality, the levy for MHSD will not raise taxes; it would simply continue the previous levy, so no taxpayer would be not paying anything over-and-above what they have been paying for the last two years. In my research, the shift in the legislature's budget has created financial emergencies in school districts all over Idaho. I have counted at least 20 other school districts in Idaho that are seeking levies this spring. Are all of these school districts corrupt and inept too?

-- Posted by questionposer on Tue, May 1, 2012, at 10:34 PM

Don't worry OM,

The MHSD will continue to balance it's budget by employing the "Do more with less" strategy. I think this means, teachers do more for less compensation. Eventually, this unrealistic, business model approach will ask it's loyal educators to "Do everything for nothing."

The educational house of cards will tumble down before this actually happens; but, rest assured, you'll still have Tiger football.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Tue, May 1, 2012, at 5:28 PM


I expect them to have a balanced budget---only spend what they take in. If you look at some of the expenses line for line, it is no wonder the MHSD has problems. Asking for a levy year after year is not the solution. I sat in on the meetings for the BRC on how to deal with the budget issues. Nobody wanted to cut anything. In hard times, things have to be cut. Sad but true.

If you look at the statute regarding education, sports programs are not what is required by/of our educations system. A good start to educating kids would be to make sure they have books and maintained buildings. If that includes the removal of sports...oh well. Choices, choices. Have you seen how few scholarships are awarded to kids from the sports programs at MHSD? I would rather have current books and buildings in good repair as that is what is REQUIRED by law.

At some point Tiger, common sense will have to prevail. If not, we are going to be in really big trouble as far as the MHSD. We have yet to see the worst of this situation. But hey! Guess there is always a larger levy that can be obtained or some emergency declared by the MHSD Board to obtain the funds "needed." It is all very dishonest. So, have you called the State Department of Ed yet or are you going to assume all that the MHSD is feeding you is "truth" and "fact?" I am just wondering.

Raising kids that can read and do math is important. Afterall, they are our future and if they cannot do basic things, we have even larger problems on the horizon. It is all about the kids and what is best for them, correct?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 1, 2012, at 4:01 PM

From 2010 to 2011, MHSD reduced expenses $1,843,795.

$1.84 million cut from their expenses. Exactly how much more do you expect can be cut before there is satisfaction that all the "fat" is gone?

-- Posted by questionposer on Tue, May 1, 2012, at 10:19 AM

If this is the type of vitriol that we subject our students to when we send them to these "conferences"--shame on the School District. Proud of the students who one awards but do hope they are some of those who stood up to this bullying from this anti-bullying speaker and walked out.


-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, May 1, 2012, at 5:32 AM

Did the crew (i.e. teachers) or passangers (i.e. students) even know the ship would go down before they were rescued?? The ship did't even have enough life boats (i.e. books and supplies) for them all while waiting to be rescued. What great planning on the Captains and Administrators part.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 3:54 PM

I believe there was plenty of fuel (i.e. $$$) on board. Could there been a problem of a different kind?? I bet there are alot of ships at the bottom of the ocean that went down with full tanks of fuel, but were navigated by under qualified captains.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 2:29 PM

Kiss it Observer. Was told what I was told. I vote in nearly everything else---not likely that I would have missed that. From what I can remember about that election---there were many issuse with respect to borders and I was not the only one. I am sure that is of record as well.

Let us not deal with that facts that surround your beloved MHSD. Sorry, I do not feed the bears not the trolls.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 2:16 PM

You do know the ship sank???

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 1:29 PM

Funny Observer:

When I went to vote, they put me in Zone 3---said I was right on the border according to the map they had. Can't fight the poll jockeys. If you do indeed check the voting records, I think I have voted every time since I have lived in MH. Glad you are so interested. Stalker perhaps?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM

Hey you two, lets stay on track now. Watched the movie Titanic the other day. Lets hope history does't repeat itself. Alot of similarities with MHSD.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 10:35 AM


I live in the county---not that district. Nice try. I could have been one of the votes, I suppose, that did not count (or was not legal). At least have your facts straight.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 8:51 AM


The teachers will be obtaining the funds taken in their pay cuts back and will also get an additional small percentage back on top of that. It is not a ton of money, but it is something (better than some of the rest of us have got). To list a few of the expenditures that I believe to be a bit much:

Dinner at Carmelas for some of the staff.

Copy machine lease payments.


Paper costs.

Cell phone costs.

Mr. Ogborn's pay (and many others).

If you would like me to go on, I can.

Yes, I do think that an audit is needed apart from the one that is done on an annual basis and it is to look for holes that the other audit would not have otherwise caught. It is not like this audit the district speaks of checks every receipt or dollar reimbursed to employees.

I would really urge some of you out there who really think this is about the kids to contact the State Department of Education and find out the FACTS on "Pay for Performance" and some of the other things that are hot topics. All of my info has come directly from that source. While the "PFP" program will "award" people in the hard to fill positions, it will also award some of the outstanding teachers out there as well. Do not take the MHSD information as fact. They cannot even seem to decide how many children go to their schools (2 different figures on their handouts).

I wonder if the MHSD health insurance pays for elective surgery such as breast enhancemnet and liposuction, etc. That is one question that nobody seems to want to deal with.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 5:39 PM

I will have to read that. I wonder if the nature of this audit is to make sure State rules and regs are complied with?? I believe OM is refering to an audit that would identify any large holes in the districts financial bucket that could be patched.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 4:56 PM


You suggest an independent audit of the MHSD in one of your previous posts. I just spent the last hour reading the independent audits from the last two years the are provided on the MHSD website. I fail to see where there is overspending and corruption on the part of the MHSD. Would you please be more specific in your accusations? Where specifically is the MHSD overspending?

Also, It was reported on ktvb.com and idahostatesman.com that state employees would be getting pay increases for the coming year--except teachers. Your comment stating that teachers will be getting their pay increases for next year appears to be wrong. The Pay for Performance initiative that was included in the state superintendent's plan redirects money from salaries to the pay for performance fund. The plan is to distribute that money based on student achievement (measured at a state and local level), hard-to-fill positions, and leadership. At no time in my research have I seen mention general pay increase for teachers in the MHSD.

Some clarification on your comments would be appreciated.

-- Posted by questionposer on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 4:23 PM

Oh, and one other thing! Let us not forget the seating of CD Houston on the MHSD Board (as a Trustee), Mr. Murray congratulating Mr. Houston on his win, the MHSD Board seating Mr. Houston and then deciding that because he was not going to "bow" to Mr. Alexander---they would remove him (or perhaps it was the color of Mr. Houston's skin). It went to Court. A bond had to be posted and a member of the MHSD Board of Trustees posted that bond (and a huge bond it was). Yep, it is all about the CHILDREN! Yep, it is all about the children and how they can get by on less because the poor teachers and MHSD admin need more. Come on now.

jdvann-that levy was supposed to be temporary---the MHSD promised to get their finances in order. While we may pay no more (and the current levy proposed is for less than last time by 200K) why have they not cut their spending? Shoot, they cannot even get their story straight on where the overage from the last levy went---after the state gave them some of their funding back. After a period of time this levy will go to a vote and could be just a way of life around here. Where is the accountability?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 11:08 AM

I wish people would be smart enough to see that this renewed levy is not at all "about the children." If some of you did the research and obtained factual information you would see that it is about staff pay and insurance---not books, etc.

That is what is wrong with all of this garbage that the MHSD puts out and claims as "fact." It is nothing more than propaganda. Charter schools are not funded the same way as the MHSD---from property taxes. So, they take NOTHING (I reapeat NOTHING) from local funding. Charter schools aslo do not get to ask for a levy to cover their misuse of public funds/over spending. McKenna built a brand new building a few years back and paid that loan off way ahead of schedule---by SAVING. They are soon to have a new addition to that building that is PAID FOR!!! The kids at McKenna clean the common areas (not bathrooms) of their school and take pride in what they have. Before you pass along bad info on charter schools, like the MHSD did with regard to McKenna, I would spend some time on the phone with the Department of Education in Boise.

At least bring facts and good information to the dog fight. If not, you are no better than the crooks at the MHSD.

I can feel the need for an audit of the MHSD so that the facts as they are as opposed to how the MHSD would like to present them will come to light. This is not about YOUR children.

Oh, and a few more parting thoughts. Before we say that the teachers took a pay cut and will not get that money back---they get it back in the current budget and with an increase. Merit based pay will also begin. So, if you are a really good teacher, you will probably be rewarded in ADDITION to your base pay. From the MHSD minutes, it would also appear that the health insurance coverage is above average by what is mandated. Starting pay is as well---again, from the MHSD minutes. This is why the kids have old, outdated books.

But hey, it is ALL ABOUT THE KIDS!!!

I have a bridge and some great swamp, I mean waterfront property for sale. Any takers? When there is truth by the MHSD about what is going on---and it really becomes about the CHILDREN, then there will be little to talk about. Until then lets talk about the wood shop equipment that was given away to a MHSD employee (not in the "auction"), the travel we as taxpayers paid for so that 2 MHSD could carry on an affair and some of the behavior of those on the MHSD Board.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 10:55 AM

Under current management, the district will ask the tax payers for funds to purchase the gun and single bullet.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 9:51 AM

I have been here since 1983 and started paying property tax in 1985. My child was born in 1998 and started school in 2004. I paid for those generations between 1985 and 2004, and I assumed it was only reasonable that this SD would be funded now that my child's generation is now in the system. The School system is the life blood of our future generations...don't play Russian Roulette with our children's education. Vote yes.

-- Posted by jdvann on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 9:00 AM

My oldest graduated in 98, and all during his jr. high and sr. highschool years (90's) we heard the same thing; can't bring books home because we don't have enough books. I don't believe books will ever be a priority, but it always sounds good when a levey or tax issue comes up. LOL.

-- Posted by midea on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 7:29 AM

For me, this levy vote is not about children, books or teachers. It is about those running this school dist. We need books. We need teaachers. What we need more than anything are qualified people to run this district so we do not constantly have to worry if there will be money for books, teachers and student activities.

-- Posted by dudewheresmycar on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 6:23 AM

You are right, taxes stay the same. Charters schools Take money from the regular SD. I wish you guys would get over your hatred of the SD and see who you are really hurting by saying no and that is the kids. They are the ones losing out because the school cant get books and supplies. I am voting yes cause I care about MY students.

-- Posted by snafu on Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 5:46 AM

Isn't the levy that is up for vote an extension of the current levy that is expiring? No additional taxes above what we are currently paying will be assessed so they will remain at their current level. Am I wrong about this?

-- Posted by jdvann on Sat, Apr 28, 2012, at 9:40 PM

When is Elmore County going to do something about what is going here in Atlanta??? People getting drunk and crashing into each other on snowmobiles, slap on wrists. Vehicle accident s not reported, slap on wrist, battery and guns being shot, no charges. Embezzlement from the response unit account,no charges and nothing being done. Fights in the bars, nothing done. Building without permits, nothing done. someone had better start paying attention

-- Posted by bearhunter on Sat, Apr 28, 2012, at 7:21 AM

We already have an alternative school that runs really super, and it is not part of the regular school district...Ummmm.

If the district can't run a regular school system why do they think we would give them 2 school systems to run also. Duh?? Idiots!

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 8:05 PM

So. The Mountain Home School District, as many of you know, will be going for yet another levy on May 15, 2012. I would encourage all who vote and/or pay taxes in this community to review the last several MHSD Board Minutes (found on the MHSD web page) and see what they are up to and what they would like to do.

Here is something that may be of interest to those of us who are tired of "status quo" with respect to the MHSD and out of control spending:

"The Board then discussed the benefits of our school district starting an alternative school to help those students struggling academically. They spoke about how the alternative school might operate and how to ensure that our alternative students would still be able to take some of the Vocational-Technical classes that are offered to the other high school students. Mr. Gilbert informed the Board that the alternative school would basically fund itself because alternative schools are funded about the same as

charter schools. He concluded by mentioning that our district might want to consider changing a

couple of our schools into charter schools, which would benefit students and the district, but he wasn't sure what all was entailed with changing to a charter school, what the legalities would be, and the pros and cons of doing such."

Really? This is what is in store for those of us who pay taxes?

Still a no vote here.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Apr 27, 2012, at 10:33 AM

There is not a lot of information available on the school levy that we are voting on at the same time as the primary (May 15th).

Just want to remind everyone to vote responsibly!

Don't forget--MAY 15TH!

-- Posted by TiredofStatusQuo on Thu, Apr 26, 2012, at 4:30 PM

Went to my lender today to apply for a line of credit for 2.7 million. They asked what the money was to be used for. I replied status quo.

I was denied.

-- Posted by TiredofStatusQuo on Thu, Apr 26, 2012, at 4:17 PM

To msme

I am a retired first responder and I am well aware of the reasons why children would be in a police suv/cruiser. However what caught my eye on that bright sunny day was the age of the children and the fact of the second cruiser in the driveway. I know that I would get out of bed after working a midnight shift to pick up my kids from school in my private vehicle not a city/county vehicle. And I would not have someone else on- duty abuse their privilege of using a cruiser, for private use, regardless of our relationship.

I know a few county sheriffs and they are not hurting financially. Just like teachers after their initial entry salary the pay hikes are good. Retire at 55.

-- Posted by gmoney on Thu, Apr 26, 2012, at 3:38 PM


What an awful thing to post! Regardless of what kind of man he might have been, show some basic courtesy and respect! I'll include you in my prayers, that your heart might be softened.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 3:37 PM

mhg4316....He was not a good man, at all!!!!

-- Posted by county_aware on Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 2:17 PM

I have not often read or had much use for the Banter Box. It seems to breed negative comments. However, I was reviewing the comments today and could not let this go. There were comments regarding a deputy's vehicle dropping off kids at a residence where there was another patrol vehicle. Let me throw out a couple of options for you to think about.

I KNOW the following situations have occurred, as I know several employees of the Sheriff's Office. There have been times when just before the end of a deputies shift, he has been sent out on an emergency call such as a fatal crash, causing them to work what will become several hours of overtime. Since these are last minute, emergency situations, daycare at the last second is impossible. Being in Law Enforcement is mostly a thankless job and these guys are a group that will not only give their life for you, but will give their life for each other. This includes taking care of their children if necessary.

My point is please don't speculate on their job.

To "gmoney", consider what you would do if, your first response person is tied up on an emergency call and the on call deputy is not able to respond to you because he only has one vehicle which his wife has at work. If you had a policy prohibiting him to take his children to another deputy's home, well he would not be able to respond. Just a thought. I for one know how little they are paid and if dropping their kids off means a benefit, go for it. There are a few deputies that actually qualify for state financial assistance due to the low pay. It is sad they will give their life for you, but you're concerned about kids in their vehicle and have no idea as the reason. I agree with contacting the Sheriff before making any assumptions.

-- Posted by msme on Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 3:28 PM

mhg4316 - I can't believe your reaction to a question that makes perfect sense. If it had been a family matter that they wanted to keep quiet, it would not have been reported to ANYONE that he was missing.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 2:14 PM

Former Elmore County Commissioner Larry Rose passed away yesteday....My deepest sympathies to his friends and family....He was a good man.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Mon, Apr 23, 2012, at 4:04 PM


Who cares where he was or what he was doing?!?! It probably wasnt on the news or in the paper because it was a family matter and not a concern for everyone else....Facebook was for friends to get the word out if anyone had seen him. Cant believe you would ask that. Wow.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Mon, Apr 23, 2012, at 4:02 PM

LOST: Grey white and tan cat, her name is mossup, she went missing saturday the 21 from 390 N 9th East (American leigon & N 9th East), she is a bit over weight and is a house cat....If you have found or seen her please call 208-599-3825 (Stephanie)or 208-599-3916 (Roy). Thank you

-- Posted by mthme on Mon, Apr 23, 2012, at 3:15 AM

Thank you MsMarilyn. I'm glad he's okay. Did they say where he was and what he was doing besides being missing?

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Sun, Apr 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM

Do not know how many out there knew Katherine Taylor who worked at DeMeyer Furniture but she has passed on. What a neat lady! I bought all of my furniture from her. She was such a bright spot in the furniture experience. She loved to decorate and always knew what to put with what you purchased. She would even come out to your house and help you if you wanted it. Katherine, you will be missed. Sympathy to both the DeMeyer and Taylors. Raymond, she adored you and I know you adored her as well.

What a great lady and friend. God bless you Katherine.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 10:35 AM

Tanner has been found. He's not home yet, however they know where he is and he's ok. I got this information from one of my Facebook Friends.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 8:49 AM

Thank you for your response, Brenda. I keep getting this on Facebook by different people every day and it just seemed odd to me that Google showed nothing and I had not heard anything on the news.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 3:27 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Your very welcome. We "hear" and sometimes see lots of stuff too but if it cannot be validated or supported by official sources and releases we will wait. Have a good weekend. I myself am so excited about the temps for Saturday and Sunday. Hopefully it will cure a lot of spring fever and get folks outside!

It is all over Facebook that a boy from Mountain Home is missing. His name is Tanner Carpenter. Does anyone know anything about this? It says his last cell phone trace was in Boise. I don't see ANYTHING about this on the news or in the paper. Is it real or a hoax? I am asking because it seems if he IS missing, not much is being done to find him by way of the news on television or in the paer.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 7:36 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
We have requested information on what we had heard. This is a young adult and we will continue to follow up and publish any official information as it is released to us.

Why is the mainstream media not picking up on things like this? http://video.foxnews.com/v/1559340327001...

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 9:01 PM

Elmore Medical is not a state hospital.....its a county hospital. And if you have ever had the privalage of using Elmore Medical & St. Lukes you too would agree this will be a good move. St Lukes has the knowledge and expertise that Elmore doesn't. They are friendlier and have way better people skills then Elmore. They are willing to work with you, and are there to lend their shoulder during hard times. And they are cheaper than going to Elmore.

-- Posted by wintersnow on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 11:50 AM

Just wanted to let everyone know that the animal shelter has a new web site. It is www.cmhas.weebly.com

Go check out the BRAND NEW web page and leave us a comment about what you think in our guestbook!

Have a great day

Shelter Volunteer

-- Posted by MtnHomeCtzn on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 6:06 PM

The signs are all around town! What to vote for? Elmore County or Dumps Dairys ot Nuke plants. Choices, choices, choices!

-- Posted by goatbeard on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 7:37 AM

All you have to do is call one of your county commisions and ask them the rule of the county vechiles are. I have a friend who family member works for the city and they said that the family member cannot ride in the city vechile. Most of these rules have tod o with insurance. But call one of your county commissionier.

-- Posted by lovemthome on Tue, Apr 17, 2012, at 8:09 AM

sinistercadrehasbeenBANNED - What a horrible thing to say. If you don't like the paper, don't read it!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 8:41 PM

I wish a tornado would touchdown and whisk Mountain Home away! Now THAT would be a news story worthy of print! I wonder how many stories about the elementary school events are in THIS month's issue? Let me guess, the kids will be making Mother's Day Cards this month. How EXCITING!!!! Worst journalists ever.

-- Posted by sinistercadrehasbeenBANNED on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 5:00 PM


Elmore County Sheriff Rick Layher,587-3370 Ext.228

Why don't you give him a chance to explain what happened. Then if you don't like the answer, blog away.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 1:46 PM

I'm glad to see their are so many supporters of misusing our Tax dollars, you must all work or have worked for a local government agency. The next time your first response vehicle is late in arriving because they were dropping of their kids remember your comments.

My first choice was to email the sheriff but his address was not on their website. This banter box was second choice.

-- Posted by gmoney on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 1:01 PM

Stop being so petty - well said! gmoney - why don't you ask your concern at the SHERIFF'S OFFICE instead of raising so much needless speculation on the banter box? Good Grief, just because another sheriff's car was parked in the driveway doesn't mean they were married or even related for heaven's sake. What if the driveway didn't have a sheriff's car? Would that make you feel better about some kids that needed a ride home? Maybe their house was on her normal patrol through the town. You really need to find out more particulars before you trash our police organizations.

-- Posted by mtnhomemama on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM

I believe Elmore County is a lot like other agencies throughout the country.

The use of patrol vehicles is allowed as they get paid very little and is considered parts of their benefits.

Also, by allowing Deputies or City Officers the use of the vehicles when they are off duty it shows that there is a larger law enforcement presence than what actually may be on duty at that time.

This in turn helps reduce crime.

-- Posted by Weebro on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 6:54 PM

Well said....Agree 100%

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 6:29 PM

So a county vehicle drops off a couple of children at a residence,BIG DEAL. It's not like our county employees make big bucks. Most employees make about 50% less than Ada or Canyon county employees do for the same jobs. What our Deputies get in comparison to Ada Deputies is disgraceful. Our Deputies face the same dangers as theirs do.

So what if their kids get a ride home. Who knows the circumstances? Maybe they were doing community service. Stop being so petty.

-- Posted by akbrand on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 5:22 PM

Does anyone know the county policy on using a county vehicle for personal use. I was driving down 15th North and saw a couple kids come out of a county sheriff SUV and go into the house and the woman driver drove off. There was also a sheriff patrol car parked in the driveway, so if her husband was home why couldn't he pick their kids up from school in their own vehicle. What happens if their in an accident is the county responsible for the hospital bill? Why does everyone in this area love to abuse and misuse our tax dollars? School District, WECRD, and many more.

-- Posted by gmoney on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 12:57 PM


Thanks for posting!! It's so great to hear this scumbag's in prison! I hope the woman can recover from this heinous crime!

-- Posted by mtnhomemama on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:52 AM


Try high school yearbooks for pictures of the El Rancho.

-- Posted by Goldtooth on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:50 AM

30 year conviction - good!. I didn't see this anywhere on the MH News:


-- Posted by VicVega on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 6:56 AM

@ Susan/TN, if she has medicaid she needs to apply for the A&D waiver. This waiver will cover in home care services and necessary equipment. If she owns her home this waiver will also pay for necessary modifications perhaps to a bathroom or to install a ramp.

-- Posted by swmom on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 7:35 PM

Susan TN, your friend might check out http://www.disabilityrightsidaho.org/ and see if they are eligible for services through them. Also, consider a community fundraising event--there are probably lots of people who would be happy to donate time/materials/money if they knew about your friend's situation. Any church or organization your friend is connected with would be a good place to start asking for fundraising help.

-- Posted by siluvayne on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 2:15 PM

Thank you for your responses, swmom and MiltonPoope. Swmom, she only has Medicaid as far as I know.

-- Posted by Susan/TN on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 9:17 AM

Dear Person Who Honks Their Horn Repeatedly,

I almost feel like I know you, PWHTHR. Every morning at 7:30ish, you start. Your friend who lives in the apartments near the Freedom Lanes bowling alley must be habitually late, because you have to honk at them so many, many times each day. Honk. Honkhonkhonk....hoooonk. Honk honk! Where are you going, PWHTHR? Work, I can only assume. Why do you honk at your friend? Do they ignore their phone and alarm clock? Why don't you knock on their door instead? Ring their doorbell repeatedly? Have you ever though of just...leaving without them? These are the questions that haunt me as I get ready in the morning, PWHTHR. Someday I hope to solve this mystery...

-- Posted by siluvayne on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 9:03 AM

Susan/TN: Try the Living Independence Network Corporation (LINC), I know they adapt people's homes to help them stay independent-- that's really a big part of what their purpose is. If you google "linc boise" you can find their website.

-- Posted by MiltonPoope on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM

@ Susan/TN....it would depend on what types of insurance your friend has. Private insurance , medicaid etc...There are limitied options, but I may be able to offer advice with more information. (I have worked in home care as a social worker)

-- Posted by swmom on Wed, Apr 11, 2012, at 7:05 AM

Can anyone suggest local agencies who might help someone make their home wheelchair-accessible? I'm in Tennessee but my friend is in Mountain Home and is unable to afford the modifications after a horrific motorcycle accident. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-- Posted by Susan/TN on Tue, Apr 10, 2012, at 11:52 PM

I went to the museum a few months ago. The lady that helped me was so sweet and tried very much to find the picture I was looking for. We went through a lot of pictures, however they didn't have it. I've been trying to find a picture of the El Rancho.

Good luck I hope they have your picture :)

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Apr 10, 2012, at 6:59 PM

Can any one help me find historic photos of Mountain Home....particularly housing around Carl Miller Park prior to 1950. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-- Posted by mthme on Tue, Apr 10, 2012, at 2:24 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Check the Museum maybe. I know they have lots of different items and it would be worth a check maybe.

Thanks dink, couldn't find it anywhere.

-- Posted by shockwave on Mon, Apr 2, 2012, at 4:53 PM

Read much Zombie, it tells you that Beall's is going in the old Kings store.


-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Mon, Apr 2, 2012, at 2:04 PM

Okay so what is going into the old Kings Building?

-- Posted by shockwave on Mon, Apr 2, 2012, at 9:19 AM

Anyone know if we are just to put metal in the container across from Les Schwab or are there certain times? I walked by it today and could not find any information. Thanks.

-- Posted by Old guy on Sat, Mar 31, 2012, at 11:58 AM

Have you ever seen someone talking to themseslves on the blogs using different "handles"??? I have. And they have their noses so far up (in the air/someone's asp) it's pitiful. What a funny read!!!

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Mar 30, 2012, at 9:04 PM


Capt. Imlay, RIP. Thoughts and prayers to his family.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Mar 29, 2012, at 4:27 PM

Thoughts and Prayers to the family of the lost Gunfighter!!


-- Posted by Montague28 on Wed, Mar 28, 2012, at 7:37 PM

For your safety. Just in case you haven't read the article or seen the news for this vehicle recall:


-- Posted by midea on Tue, Mar 27, 2012, at 1:12 PM


I can't...seems I passed the Integrity Test and I kept bumping into stuff with that blindfold they make you wear at their meetings.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Mar 26, 2012, at 12:26 PM

OM and AC thank you. Will do. Appreciate you both for the help. Thanks again.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Mar 23, 2012, at 10:04 AM

Contact Tom Thomas on Birch Ave (between Taco John's and Marathon Cheese). He is great with small engines and chain saws.

Best wishes,

-- Posted by Albert Clement on Fri, Mar 23, 2012, at 8:02 AM


A to Z Lumber also had a good guy to work on chain saws. Sorry about the other place. A to Z is good too for small engines. Hope that helps.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Mar 22, 2012, at 9:05 PM


The place you stated on Airbase road doesn't seem to ever have the gate open so not sure if they are in business any longer. Hubby was there the other day and then went there 3 different times today throughout the day. Guess I am going to have to look elsewhere for small engine and chain saw repairs. Thanks for the suggestion though.

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Mar 22, 2012, at 7:10 PM

Assessed housing values have gone down in Mountain Home during the recession (anyone claiming their house has not lost value is Pinocchio). This is based on recent changes to my monthly mortgage payment sent from my mortgage holder.

*Think of a MasterCard Commercial:

Assessed decline in property value-DECLINE IN PROPERTY TAXES: SAVINGS--23 DOLLARS A MONTH

Resulting change I made in Homeowners insurance reflecting assessed decline: SAVINGS--9 DOLLARS A MONTH


People Claiming Property Taxes keep going up in Mountain Home---PRICELESSLY STUPID!

2.7 million bond levy(what is being sought)vs. 2.8 million(last two years), a little bit more in savings--PRICELESS

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Thu, Mar 22, 2012, at 8:36 AM

Assessed housing values have gone down in Mountain Home during the recession (anyone claiming their house has not lost value is Pinocchio). This is based on recent changes to my monthly mortgage payment sent from my mortgage holder.

*Think of a MasterCard Commercial:

Assessed decline in property value-DECLINE IN PROPERTY TAXES: SAVINGS--23 DOLLARS A MONTH

Resulting change I made in Homeowners insurance reflecting assessed decline: SAVINGS--9 DOLLARS A MONTH


People Claiming Property Taxes keep going up in Mountain Home---PRICELESSLY STUPID!

2.7 million body levy vs. 2.8 million, a little bit more in savings--PRICELESS

-- Posted by idahogeek52 on Thu, Mar 22, 2012, at 5:55 AM


-- Posted by workingbee on Wed, Mar 21, 2012, at 8:16 PM


Just for the sake of argument,...pay nothing for what you disagree with.

Demand reorganization.

Tell the gas station you're not going to pay what the station needs to stay in business. Tell the breadmakers that you think they're charging too much. Tell the plumber and the policeman that you don't think their services are worth their price.

I suspect, the people you don't pay will quit paying attention to you...AKA you're not going to get what you don't pay for.

Nothing personal...

If you think education is a rip-off; then vote to that effect.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Wed, Mar 21, 2012, at 6:00 PM

Has anyone besides myself noticed that the Post Office has not had the flag flying for at least two weeks?

-- Posted by Happy Haven on Wed, Mar 21, 2012, at 5:59 PM

Not all businesses are for profit (many non-profits out there that are still businesses). McKenna CHS is run like a business. They managed to build a brand new, nice facility and paid that same facility off BEFORE the maturity date. Now, they are building again---and SAVED the money for that (project is already paid for). Funny how Mr. Slade seems to be able to do so much and stick to a budget. Now that group is doing something right and the kids that attend that school---clean the common areas (not bathrooms) and take pride in what they have. Imagine that!

As far as MHSD not being able to be run on a "business model" I once again disagree with you. Our schools provide a service---much like a business. To some degree, they do "profit" as they always seem to have "reserve" funds here and there and "rainy day" funds as well as "investments." Heck, they even have a "budget!" They do not seem to be able to balance it...but they have one.

A business just like a school can be "voted out." It is called nobody goes to it/uses it and it is put out of business. No there is an interesting concept. No money to run so ya close up shop. Would it not be better to scale back (like 10 years back when enrollment was going down) and try to perhaps stay in business? Certainly if a business had less people to service they would not try to maintain the staff for a higher populus knowing they had less peopel to serve. That would be bad business, right? Why would payroll grow if less people were being served?

As for your skeleton theory---and things being "cut to the bone"---if the "cuts" had been true cuts, that would be one thing. We (the voting public) were lied to on what was going to be done. The MHSD did not follow through. Now, we will be asked to vote for a levy yet again!

How is this a solution? How does a levy "fix" what is broken in the MHSD system? A levy is nothing more than a finger in a hole on a leaking boat. The budget needs to be balanced and cuts MUST be made. I would suggest that the bones get picked clean---starting with Admin. and then start making cuts---REAL cuts---and get the budget balanced. We all want steak for dinner but now all we can afford is Ramen. The sooner we realize this, the better.

The more people are willing to pay this District, the more they take/spend. Cut them off and I promise they will figure out their budget issues. Maybe a good place to start is performance based pay for Mr. Ogborn. He makes over 90K a year and is in charge of the district finances. That is part of the skeleton that can go for sure along with ALL of the people who go along with this over spending that make it so that the MHSD "can't afford" to buy books and "can't afford" to repair buildings that have been "old" for over 25 years.

Come on. A levy of 2.7 million PER YEAR for 2 more years is NOT the answer. None of us in this community like the idea of cuts (real, factual cuts). However, every business in this community has had to make cuts (less pay, less employees, less of a service area, less service, etc.). Our schools are no different. If the people in charge are not willing to make changes that are NEEDED, then we need new people who will do what is right. They days of keeping your pals employed are few and short boys. Another levy is NOT the answer.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Mar 20, 2012, at 1:27 PM

JYD.. you really don't have a clue... but your good at dodging. Still standing with, .... NO, NO MORE MONEY.. if the school district can't stay within its budget then a REORGANIZATION is required.

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 8:51 PM


I'll always consider another's opinion...try to give it proper weight, compare and contrast it to mine, and try to find common ground.

I believe , as well, that, when an argument starts to name Names, and/or claims abuse or benefit without stating specific evidence to support the claim, then the argument gets kinda personal.

I don't think schools can be run on a "business" model because businesses exist to make profit...schools provide service; not profit. Businesses can accept or reject raw materials, schools cannot. Businesses can declare bankruptcy, suspend their debt and reorganize. Schools cannot.

On the other hand, businesses cannot be "voted" out of existence. Schools can.

If/when the levy fails to pass, and the district loses approximately 10% of it's current operating budget...what will be cut? Only the board knows. But; if you are already cut to the bone because of previous cuts, which part of the skeleton would you chop off?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 7:09 PM

That small engine repair shop on Airbase Road. They fixed our small tractor and a chain saw.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 11:10 AM

Can anyone tell me who "in mountain home" works on chain saws? Ours is being a real pain in the backside and now won't run at all. Your help would be much appreciated.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Mar 19, 2012, at 10:46 AM


I respectfully disagree with you. Anyone who pays taxes in this community is a "stockholder" in the Mountain Home School District. Our company is performing in a sub-standard way in many of our eyes. The MHSD needs to get to a place where what they spend is, at the very least, equal to what is taken in as far as funding. Our local school district needs to run like a business---not an endless black hole of abuse in spending.

At some point, there needs to be accountability by the MHSD Administration and the MHSD Board. We cannot continue to "solve" this funding issue with levy after levy.

If the MHSD was run like a business, there would be a good many folks with no jobs as a result of the problems/issues before us now that have grown over the last 10 years. In the real world, CEO McMurtrey, Gilbert and the MHSD Board would be packing up their desks and moving on. However, this company (the MHSD) would appear to have an endless supply of money (ie cash station tax payers).

So when the levy does not pass, will sports be cut or will they keep sports and do without updated books?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Mar 18, 2012, at 11:18 PM


You don't buy an education system the same way as you buy a car/house/or loaf of bread. You don't buy a sewer system, a water supply, a constabulary or a fire department to a point where you don't pay any more because you own it.

Your car, house, loaf of bread is a product...not a service. If you quit paying for services, they stop.

If you don't want your waste to be carried away, if you don't want to dig your own well, if you don't want to pay for gas/electricity, if you don't want to pay for bread; then just go on and be all you can be...drowning in crap, drying of thirst, generating your own power, and grinding your own meal.

Go ahead and be your independent self...I'm okay with that.

But, if that's how you feel, then don't complain because you choose to live in your own sewage, amongst bad guys who'll never be locked up, while lighting your home with lard and tallow candles. And, oh yeah, your kids can't figure out how backwards they are because they can neither read, nor count beyond your kitchen table home school, independent self.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Mar 18, 2012, at 5:39 PM

Yep, throwing more money at the Mountain Home School District is throwing good money after bad. Nothing is "fixed" with a levy. Cuts have to be made and the budget MUST be balanced. The MHSD is yet another perfect example of mismanagement at its best within this community. These jokers do not want to cut ANYTHING. Their solution, more taxes. Priceless!

With enrollment down, why does the MHSD have higher payroll (more people on the payroll)?

If people in this community felt they were obtaining their moneys worth from the MHSD, they would be more than willing to support the MHSD. When people are lied to, it is hard to support the liars. It is not about the "children" it is about the teachers, pay, and their jobs.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Mar 18, 2012, at 10:37 AM

JYD.. "continued(not more) support"....continuing to pay is paying MORE... I don't continue to pay my car loan after the date the bank and I agree too, just because I think the bank needs it. .... as far as "Pay for what you get".. this school district which is in "fiscal decay", does not give me the same option as all my other goods and services, if it doesn't meet my standards, I can't sent it back to the chef nor can I return it.. so what I get for money doesn't apply here.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Mar 17, 2012, at 11:41 PM


Speculation, prognostication,and opinion don't carry a whole lot of weight.

I will say, that our school district is in fiscal decay, and has been forced by circumstances beyond our control to ask for continued(not more) support to maintain its precarious position.

Regardless of your opinion that trying to influence voters to support a position that you disagree with is immoral; my opinion is, if the public doesn't want what they are paying for now, then, the public can vote for less.

It's not personal, you're gonna get what you pay for...no more, no less.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Mar 17, 2012, at 5:33 PM

...and so it begins. I see Parent Teacher conferences are slated to begin March 22. I am willing to wager the Mountain Home School District takes a page from the Boise School District's Political Playbook and has some absentee ballots ready to go during those one-on-one conferences with parents. They'll have ready made well scripted pleas asking parents to vote yes on the levy or the teachers will lose their jobs. Perhaps Mountain Home will do as Boise did and target those residents with a history of supporting the district to ensure the voting goes in the favor of the district. BSD beat the drums at the ice cream social, sporting events and school plays. Why one school even had an ice cream social for the parents on voting night. You must vote yourselves a tax increase or we'll lose our jobs, the parents were told. Oh, the tactics of the Boise School District weren't illegal. Immoral to be sure, but not illegal. After all, the proponents of the tax increase had face time with the parents but no equal time was allotted to counter their argument by those who questioned the need for another levy. Pay no attention and never you mind that our tax dollars pay for the teachers dues to the union, pay the districts fees to belong to NAFIS, pay the cell phone bills of administrators not to mention the travel and credit card reimbursements to the tune of tens of thousands of our dollars. Pay no attention because it's all for the children. It is with sincere hope the residents of our fair city understand the scope of the issues at hand. Go to the Mountain Home School District website at http://www.mtnhomesd.org/education/distr.... There on the left hand side you will find a link titled Business and Financial Information. Hovering your mouse over that link and you'll find a link titled Monthly Expenditures, click it. I invite all of Mountain Home to examine the documents on that page closely and ask yourselves if all those expenses make sense to you. Most of them do, but many don't, at least not to me. Add up the total of the expenses that you question or that don't seem necessary and then ask the District for an accounting. Before voting yes please ask yourself has the District done all it can to eliminate waste and reign in spending? Is it truly about the children or is it about funding the unions and the large salaries of the administrators? With enrollment declining, do we really need another tax increase?

-- Posted by GetRealNow on Sat, Mar 17, 2012, at 2:43 AM

Thanks barkingmad. I am glad you took the cute boy in. What a lucky family. Glad he went home.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Mar 16, 2012, at 8:08 PM

OK the dog has gone home, Thanks Brenda and https://www.facebook.com/CMHAS

-- Posted by barkingmad on Fri, Mar 16, 2012, at 4:34 PM

Anyone lost a Yellow Lab, male, 50lbs, camo collar, found on S 18 E, Thursday

photos @



-- Posted by barkingmad on Fri, Mar 16, 2012, at 9:52 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Let me know if anyone claims. Otherwise you can put a FREE Lost/Found Pet text classified ad in the paper for two weeks as a no-charge. B

midea--after the headline concerning this flag, should have been the headline--the President condemns the altering of the American Flag! Of course, that headline would only come from a true American patriot, who truly has respect, honor, and love for this nation. Not a peep from the WH so every American should realize this man and his administration MUST GO! Vote them all out and take back this country!!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Thu, Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 AM


How about this winter..kinda creepy. From the Midwest. Called my parents this weekend. Dad said it is the 4th warmest winter since they started tracking the weather. Kinda makes us wonder what the year will bring.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, Mar 14, 2012, at 8:59 PM

Midea and OM,

He promised change during his campaign and change he has provided. This is not the first time he has disgraced not only the US but the veterand that have fought for the US. I, for one, am tired of his change and plan on not voting for him.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Mar 14, 2012, at 5:53 PM

Yes midea is the answer to that question---but it is some not all. Very sad. I am glad it was removed. My guess is that Obama will claim he knew nothing about this yet the flags are available online for purchase.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Mar 14, 2012, at 2:44 PM

Have we become so dumbed down, so apathetic that something like this means nothing to so many people? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/14/us-...

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Mar 14, 2012, at 10:59 AM

Who knows when/Date this new school district levy comes up for vote. I want to make sure I'm in town to vote no.

-- Posted by gmoney on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 10:15 PM

Anybody who goes to a car sale on those flyers that come in the mail are looking for something for nothing. Ever notice how every one has matching numbers? And KR doesn't put those out,he and the other dealers in town hire those advertising agencies to do that work. Their own sales people hardly even work the sales, the agencies bring their own high pressure people with them. I have had a lot of dealings with KR and I could never badmouth him. He's always treated me fairly. Just stop by and talk to him. He'll take time out of his day to see you, he's that kind of person. If you got a better deal in Boise........so be it. That's not always the case. I never have. My deals have been comparable. Know what you want, what it's worth and avoid paying spiffs. Buy the vehicle and only the vehicle. Forget all the extras, theft avoidance, Gap insurance, extended warranties etc. Just buy the vehicle and you'll do as well at our Mtn. Home dealerships as anywhere else.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 6:54 PM

I went into Performance on day two about 1 pm and the sales said they had 167 people on day 1 and only sold 6 cars. I left with my old car and binoculars, the salesman said all out of scratch tickets, I figured he just pocketed them.

-- Posted by gmoney on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 5:49 PM

Mr. Pratt, why would new rulings concerning taxes on real estate sales even be in a health care bill in the first place? And don't you think the rules concerning this sales tax could be easily amended once its in the bill and entered into law?

-- Posted by Second Wind on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 4:32 PM

Buckshot, SW should get his facts straight, and post all the facts.

How very typical of the far right.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM

To everyone, before you get your shorts in a knot, read this!


-- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 4:21 PM

ALL HOME OWNERS SHOULD READ THIS! Did you know that, deeply imbedded in the massive Obama Health Care bill, set to take effect in 2013, is a little-known fact that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax. So, if you sell a home worth $100,000, you'll pay a $3,800 sales tax on it. Way to stick it to the homeowners, huh? More change we can believe in? Why does this go into effect in 2013? Anybody guess it may be to get Obama through the 2012 elections before there is a huge public outcry? And what does this have to do with health care? Does this make your 2012 vote more important now?

-- Posted by Second Wind on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 3:37 PM

Fantasy Author, I guess we know where you work. If you expect us to believe, 250 people swammed "Performance" the first day, you do have the correct nick name, "Fantasy". I have talked to 5 different people and they all said same thing, no one was at the dealership on day one (not a crowd), so to say 250 swammed them in one day!!!!! If that is what the dealership meant, they should state "first 250 people", not "you are a winner, come down to receive your prize". I would say this is a mis-advertisment and kinda crooked!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 3:05 PM

It doesn't matter if you have not recently been to Performance Chevrolet. Why should things be any different? KR has owned it for a very long time and I feel confident that he stays deeply in touch with how things are run. I love the art of the car deal, and I've tried several times to get a fair deal there. I ended up buying locally, but not from him.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 1:16 PM

Im glad others noticed the request to lower my standards to accommodate how poorly most, not all, of the businesses in this town are at pricing and customer service. Is this truly whats expected, lower your standards, and youll be amazed at how "good" everything is... wow. And I wont list any businesses just because of the amount of space here. I will say this, the restaurants act as though they are doing me a favor by providing a service, poorly, that I pay for. The stores feel their prices are competitive, and by no definition of the word are they. The gas stations are usually higher by 5-10 cents than Boise, the excuse, we have to pay since we are "out of the way" for delivery. While, Buhl is cheaper than here, seems they are more out of the way. The dealerships do not compete, they are sharks. The Sings are a perfect example, the local dealers only sold a few vehicles to them, then the Sings realized how bad the prices were and took their business to Boise. Now with that, I have found a few places, few, that I have done repeated business with. I apologize if my last comment inferred I meant all businesses here were poor across the board, I didnt mean it as a blanket statement. As for my subordinates, it is my job as a supervisor to look out for them and help ensure they make the best choices, spending time and money being two of them. I guess it would have been easier to list the businesses now, oh well.

-- Posted by scoutin on Tue, Mar 13, 2012, at 3:06 AM

I guess I'm a bit stumped about all of this so I'll recap. Performance Chevy sent out a flier for the most recent Mega Sale that said there would be 250 prizes given away. They gave away the prizes in the first day and everyone who didn't show up early enough to get a FREE prize is... upset. Now its degenerating to calling the dealers names and slinging mud/trolling the dealership. It seems obvious to me that if you didn't get there in time to get your prize try getting up earlier in the morning next time and beat the other 250 people to it. Otherwise, be happy that someone offered free stuff at all. Now regarding the folks over there, especially for those of you have went "many years ago", if you're in the market, give them a chance. I bought two cars from them in 2006 and another one this year and have had nothing but the best service. From the dealer room and finance officials to the service/parts department, these guys made my purchases quick and painless. Thanks for helping me surprise my wife for Christmas this year guys, she still loves the Suburban.

-- Posted by Fantasy_Author on Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 7:09 PM

To Whom It May Concern,

I bought a used SUV at Performance Chevrolet in 2001. Liked it, still drive it.

I bought another SUV from the same place in 2009. Like it, still drive it.

Guess where I'm going to look for a used pick-up?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Mar 11, 2012, at 5:07 PM

Scoutin...I would be very interested in where you have been shopping and found that ALL businesses in Mountain Home are bad and give bad customer service. While I pretty much agree that car dealerships are not all that great here, though I can't say that about Thrify as I have never been there, not ALL businesses in Mountain Home are bad. I think making a blanket statement like that is out of line.

I have lived in Mountain Home almost my entire life and while I admit that customer service is lacking in some places, MANY businesses here have great customer service.

Let's have a list of places that you have shopped and received bad service. I'll give you alternatives for that type of service, where I KNOW the service is good. :)

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Sun, Mar 11, 2012, at 12:43 PM

So Joe...people should lower their standards so that some of the business practices in this community equal up (expect less and get less)? That is really smart. Scoutin, I agree with you and some of the others. Some businesses in this community just do not deserve the business. We have 2 cars and a truck. The 2 cars go to Boise for any work...the truck goes to a local shop where customer service is still an art form (if he would work on the 2 cars...we would have him do that) and the owner is good at what he does and very honest. I do not think that lowering expectations solves the real problem.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Mar 10, 2012, at 11:33 AM

Joe_ smoe.. I quote you here "My guess is they may not have such high expectancies as you"... were you really trying to say if they just lower their expectations, then they will be satisfied with the quality of goods and services that Mountain Home has to offer... really..

-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Mar 9, 2012, at 9:18 PM

I have been to 3 places here in town about purchasing a vehicle.

MH Auto Ranch had a nasty finance guy who got in my hubby's face when we told him we needed to think about purchasing a truck.

Performance Chevrolet had a salesman whom I talked to was unprofessional in talking more about how bad MH Auto Ranch was then selling me a vehicle.

Thrifty was the only place that treated us with any respect, but then didn't stand by their 30 day policy on a vehicle we had purchased.

I buy from Mountain Home with every chance, but I still agree that buying a vehicle here is upsetting all the way around.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Fri, Mar 9, 2012, at 1:40 PM


Thats a good way to support your local community. Why not let the new troops decide for themselves? My guess is they may not have such high expectancies as you. I think with your type of attitude I would rather you do go to Boise.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Fri, Mar 9, 2012, at 11:15 AM

I have bought 3 new vehicles from Performance and had quite a bit of service work done (Oil Changes) and 1 bad fuel gauge and never had a problem.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, Mar 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM

This is why I take all my business to Boise. The dealerships here are the worst I have come across, in value, customer service and quality. This applies to all the businesses too, and since PCSing here in 2002 it has not improved. Its gotten to the point that I let the new service members know not to do business here. Now, with that, I do check from time to time to see if anything has improved, in hopes that it will... but thats only hope right now.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, Mar 9, 2012, at 2:00 AM

Even with a flyer, we would never have gone to that dealership to get a car. Many years ago when we were looking at a car there, we decided to think about it over night. The salesman told us and let me quote him "I'm going to do everything I can sell that car while you try to make up your mind". We never went back.

We went to Grant Peterson, which is where we SHOULD have gone in the first place because they had always done my family right over the years. Good service, good people, good car and no one trying to force us to make a decision on a car by telling us they were going to sell it before we made up our minds.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Mar 8, 2012, at 5:52 AM

The republican caucus is tonight. The first link is about the changes to the process in Idaho and the second is the time and place specifics.



I would say that its important to show up for this part of the process but that's only 75% true. Because after hearing the voice of the people,(which is debatable because they don't hold the caucus on a regular voting day and you HAVE to be a registered republican), 25% of delegates just vote for whoever they want at the national convention. One man, 75% of one vote!

-- Posted by ANelson on Tue, Mar 6, 2012, at 8:59 AM


We got the flyer and husband went the next day......Guess What? They were out of prizes

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 9:54 PM

How True, just wanted to make sure everyone knew all the prizes are gone, so don't bother going down to check, and of course no RAINCHECKs on your WINNING prize, because even though it states you won, they had no prize to give you. Only while supplies last, and that one item wass gone before doors even opened!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 2:48 PM


I have my own personal thoughts on the dealer you speak of from my own experiences. Just think if they would have given you the prizes and were polite and helpful you might have given them serious thought when you bought your next vehicle. Now I bet you won't go there and you will tell everyone about your experience and them even if they don't realize it will have a suspicion about them if they are looking for a vehicle.

The dealership shot themselves in the foot on this issue; this is why I throw those adverts in the trash. They are not worth the paper they are written on.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 2:07 PM

Local Chevy car dealer had a MEGA car sale and sent out flyers, which stated you won prizes if you matched numbers. So I matched the number which stated I won three of the prizes. I took my flyer in the morning of the second day of a five day sale. Salesman said, lucky you, you won three prizes, just need to take down your info. Once he found out I wasn't interested, he said the dealership was out of prizes after one day, SORRY! This should be False advertisement or something. Crooks! I am sure I wasn't only person that noticed this...

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 11:25 AM

Goatbeard I didn't say I had a problem with their right to be there.. my problem was one of a SAFETY ISSUE, jumping out in front of cars and pushing signs into the road.. that was and is my issue..

I would have gladly taken their brochure if I had been at a red light but since the light was green, I didn't want to cause a SAFETY ISSUE.

This has nothing to do with who was there, my point is SAFETY.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sun, Mar 4, 2012, at 6:22 PM

Just thought I would remind everyone to please keep an eye out for motorcycles on the roads. As the weather warms up, more of us will be on the road and we do not have all the protection that a car does. Additionally, I hope that all riders are doing all they can to be seen. Remember it is your life and you should do all you can to make sure you ride safely. Ride responsibly

-- Posted by Old guy on Sun, Mar 4, 2012, at 2:42 PM

Someone always has problem with someof the days activities. Personally I thought it was refreshing to see people out doing something constructive. Whether or not you support Paul, they have a right to do so. If they said "yes we can", would you have stopped and shook their hands?

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sun, Mar 4, 2012, at 7:11 AM

Oh well.... lets just hope that next time someone is paying as much attention as I was..just plain foolish to risk a life for some brochure or bumper sticker.. Common Sense is lost.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Mar 3, 2012, at 9:55 PM

wbee - Did ya ever drive faster than the posted speed limit? Fail to make a complete stop at a stop sign? Speed up just a teensie weensie bit when the light was yellow just to keep from sittin' at another stinkin' red light? If not, you're probably one of a kind. If so, glad YOU don't have to obey the traffic laws, either. Glass houses................

-- Posted by roosterz on Sat, Mar 3, 2012, at 8:40 PM

Thank You to the Ron Paul supporters who ran out into the road to hand out a brochure and the others that were pushing there signs into the lane. I am so glad you don't all have to obey the traffic laws.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Mar 3, 2012, at 6:56 PM

Thank you, Old Guy. I hope that student is punished within an inch of their life. What a horrible thing to do. I wonder if that student will have to pay for any costs related to this. I hope so!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Sat, Mar 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM


One the MHSD facebook page they are saying a student pulled a fire alarm and the FD responded. There was no fire according to MHSD>

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Mar 2, 2012, at 8:26 PM

I was just looking at the minutes of the last posted city council meeting and was suprised to see the Fire Chief was getting a salary of $80,000 per with benefits. For a town of 12,000 residents it seems to be way High. It also seemed like the council was leaving it to the so-called volunteer firemen to decide if the next chief was full time or part time. I quess it depends on who they select, if he wants to leave his full time job or not. Also the council said that maybe a Associate Degree was to tough a requirement, for $80,000 they should at least have a masters. And we talk about school district overpayments. The City is even worse, maybee the newspaper can do an article on that.

-- Posted by gmoney on Fri, Mar 2, 2012, at 3:59 PM

Does anyone know anything about a supposed fire at Hacker Middle School, yesterday, March 1st?

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Mar 2, 2012, at 3:23 PM


"Change we can believe in." Some of us out here knew it would not be for the better. Our "Commander and Chief." God help us if the sentence is 4 more years. God help us. Thanks for the post midea.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 9:24 PM

Unbelievable!!! But yet Obama has shown his disdain for the military so it's not so unbelievable. Obama has done nothing but kowtow to other leaders. Vote him OUT!!!!!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 2:11 PM

Believable, Unbelievable? Can I really fathom this? You read the article for yourself.


-- Posted by midea on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 10:59 AM



-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 5:42 PM


Depending on the current threat level it would be %100. It is entirely up to the Security Forces Commander or a higher authority.

Of course there are "other" relative factors also.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 3:47 PM

joe_smoe: You said "At any given time the entry to the base is different, for the purpose of security. How well do you think it would work if it was exactly the same every time?"

I have encountered this procedure a few times and finally asked the guard about. I received a pleasant response that really didn't answer the question.

Curiosity has gotten the best of me by asking "why isn't 100% ID check, 100% of the time the most secure method". Just wondering!

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 3:44 PM

Let he who has never forgotten anything chunk the first one in there............Tough crowd.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 11:55 AM

The "Shifty Fifty " is so 70s and early 80s!

-- Posted by Ontherocks on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 8:58 AM


Maybe we should be!!!!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 8:47 AM

Obama shows disgust for military again!


-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 8:46 AM


I did read all the posts. I did not assume anything. I just felt a need to explain how the process works at the gate.

I did not belittle any one or try to come across holier than though.

I worked that gate for just over 3 years, I know how it works.

Sorry if your drawers got a little bunched.

I realize people will forget ID's. Just trying to explain how the system works.

Have a great day.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 7:55 AM


Very good (funny). Thanks for a great laugh.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 7:37 PM

Joe Smoe-

I admitted if you actually read what I wrote, to being the one who messed up about the I.D. thing. I was just wondering why if its 100% and as they told me all the time, why when we came back I wasnt asked for it. So maybe if you read everything and dont just assume, then maybe you wont seem so I dont know holier than thou. I admitted my mistake, so I dont need sympathy, specially not from the likes of you. So have a great day, and may God bless you!

-- Posted by Erica B on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 1:16 PM

The first rule of Mountain Home is that we don't talk about the Shifty Fifty....

-- Posted by Manshima on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 12:32 PM

Just had the wonderful volunteers at the Senior Center complete my 2011 taxes. It took awhile because of my circumstances but with 3 Quality checkers, I know it was done right. Thank you Senior Center for offering this service and if anyone else uses them, please don't forget to give the Senior Center a donation at the sign in desk and to Thank the Volunteers.

-- Posted by pursuitofhappy on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 8:09 PM

Is it accurate to state they are losing their Persi? Generally once you have paid into a retirement program, your invested money remains in the program. I am assuming what is happening is St. Lukes has a different set of benefits, including a different retirement program (401K?). I am not discounting the effect this may have on those who are close to being fully vested in Persi only to have to switch to a new retirement.

-- Posted by swmom on Sat, Feb 25, 2012, at 5:13 PM

Amazes me the things that people complain/squabble about.

At any given time the entry to the base is different, for the purpose of security. How well do you think it would work if it was exactly the same every time?

Do yourself a favor and remember your ID cards at all times when entering the base.

I remember when not having your ID was a punishable offense.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Thu, Feb 23, 2012, at 10:00 AM

What I dont understand is why you didnt complain to a supervisor or call the commander. What purpose is it to put it on the BB unless you wanted sympathy?

-- Posted by snafu on Thu, Feb 23, 2012, at 4:59 AM

Erica B, I have been wondering the same thing

SOme of the guys only ask for drivers ID, others ask for all id's. One of the SF actually told my husband that before 9, my ID was not needed. One flight was told that they could do Drivers only, the other flight was told it is 100%.

-- Posted by Enlistedwife on Tue, Feb 21, 2012, at 1:05 PM

I will NEVER forget my purse and I.D. again thats a given. It was so my fault, I just think that its all or nothing. I understand the policy, and totally agree with it, I just feel always enforce it or never enforce it. But again I take responsiblity for being the idiot who forgot my I.D.. ;)

-- Posted by Erica B on Tue, Feb 21, 2012, at 9:38 AM

Erica B,

If the sign was up for 100% ID CHECKS and the officer didn't check both than they weren't doing their job properly.

If you have another form of ID like a drivers license then your husband can get you a pass at the visitor center. It must be a picture ID though.

They have a strict set of rules they follow and if an officer is lazy then security takes a hit. I used to work the gates and it drove me nuts that some officers just got lazy and didn't follow the rules; this made it hard on the officers that do follow the rules.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Feb 20, 2012, at 8:23 PM

Erica B,

Sometimes it's 100%, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's a random check of every 4th vehicle, sometimes it's every license plate that ends in 5 or 0.

Nothing personal; but I'll bet you're less likely to forget your ID again?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 5:56 PM

Ok I went out to Base this morning, and I was stupid enough to forget my purse in my car, we were in my husbands truck. So we got to the gate, and the nice SP told me that he needed to see my ID, of course I didnt have it. Duh to me, again. So he sent us into the "Visitor Center" the nice "Base(???) Police Officer, he was a civilian, told us no we could not get on Base, its the Base Commander's rule. 100% I.D. check no admittance for anyone without a card. Ok, thats great, I am ok with that. So with my husband a little made at me, and rightly so, we headed back to town, and I got my I.D. card. Then we drove back to the base. We get up to the gate, (by now I bet you can guess what I'm gonna type next!) and my husband gets his I.D. out and I get mine out, but I say to him, "I'm not going to give mine to you until he asks." This was a different SP, so he takes my husbands I.D. card, scans it, something the other SP didnt, and says "Have a nice day guys." So what happened to the 100% I.D. Check, no one gets on without showing their I.D.? We were told that 2 times by 2 different "Guards" 20 mins previously. Needless to say I am not happy. So why are our Base Commander's rules being enforced some of the time with such rigidity, and other times not at all? I roll my eyes at our so called sometime there sometime not base security. Acroos the board or not at all! Well all I'll step off my saop box, and go annoy someone else. Just I have no blog, I want one, but...Thanks for listening

-- Posted by Erica B on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 9:12 PM

Don't worry Enlistedwife your story was entertaining, although the rants complaining about your story have been slightly more entertaining. As far as the gossiping...we are better than that... blah blah blah don't worry some peoples horses are just a little higher than others.

As always spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 7:15 AM

It seems that some folks post a comment about someone else's post before they read it fully. Enlisted wife has stated that the ranking officer's wife had posted the incident on facebook. Obviously the officer's wife was not concerned that others would know about it. Furthermore, it seems that she wasn't too concerned about what others would think of what she had done. That kind of goes hand in glove with the kind of attitude one would have to have to do what she "allegedly" did. I doubt that anyone reading these blogs knows who the woman is anyway. To me the story read like something out of a reader's digest when they tell funny stories about military life.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 12:37 AM

Wow. Enlistedwife, why are you gossiping on this blog? Did you hear this story first hand? Were you there when she supposedly refused to give back the pen and "used" her husband's rank?

Even if you were there, that is no reason to slander anyone on a public forum. Please keep the pettiness and gossip amongst yourselves. Better yet, rise above it and don't do it at all.

-- Posted by mhgirl on Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 2:32 PM

Who is David Weed?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 8:53 AM

Will Idaho be "for sale" to the highest bidder? Not all of it, just the public lands if Rick Santorum get his way.


-- Posted by bondyweb on Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 8:26 AM

David Weed...Sing what you know,you have a voice the makes my heart sing. Steven Tyler really?..He was born in 1948...Do what you do best. Waiting to hear from you in church.. or maybe someplace else. Just saying don't go to their level your better then that. Good Luck..

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 10:20 PM

I was told second hand that a farmer was either buring off fields or old hay.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Feb 15, 2012, at 5:42 PM

Any word on the big smoke plume to the west this afternoon/evening?

-- Posted by Manshima on Tue, Feb 14, 2012, at 9:48 PM

Wow, Enlistedwife, you've got guts, I'll give you that. I wonder how many hours it took for the Dental Squadron Commanders wife to hear about your little post here at MH NEWS. As a military spouse, (enlisted at that) you should know by know how the game is played. Better grow some thick skin!

-- Posted by Yinny on Tue, Feb 14, 2012, at 1:24 PM


If by "fleas" you mean parasites, you could be right.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Feb 13, 2012, at 5:42 PM

So let it be written...I admit, I wasn't there.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Feb 13, 2012, at 5:38 PM

Junk yard dog,

Just because you have a feeling, no evidence or anything your going to call someone a lier.

Yes I have heard of the ether bunny, and the shot with a square needle and other fables. As for this event about the new Wing King "I WAS THERE" What about that don't you get, you can ask my wife as I told her about it when I got home from work that day.

Agian I really don't care if you believe me or not, I could care less what you think my experiences in life are. But I know what happened that day as I was there; funny I didn't hear you say you were there and wintnessed something different.

You can't put your finger on it huh?

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Feb 13, 2012, at 9:04 AM

Yes it is a beautiful day. I'm going to go down to CJ Strike and go ice fishing. Anybody interested?

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sun, Feb 12, 2012, at 11:36 AM

It is a beautiful day outside :) I hope you all enjoy it !

-- Posted by just1 on Sun, Feb 12, 2012, at 10:50 AM

It was a comment typed out by this lady on a public facebook wall, and made me SICK. Just hoping to share, seeing as she already made it public.

-- Posted by Enlistedwife on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 10:31 PM

Kinda crazy that "enlisted wife" would choose first person on telling the story and how did she know this commanders wife dropped the pen in the toilet. Sounds more to me like this was something for "enlisted wife's" FACEBOOK and less the Mountain Home News.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 10:24 PM

uncommon sense

Yea... I missed some quotation marks. After I hit submit I realized that everyone would think I am a snotty rank wearing wife. Ha. I am FAR from it. Even if I was the type, my husband does not have enough rank for me to wear like that LOL

-- Posted by Enlistedwife on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 10:19 PM


You can believe what you want I don't really care I was there.

I guess the new Wing King couldn't have heard about it either and decided it would be a great open to his new command.

Who knows we know nothing has ever been repeated though out all of history.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 6:26 PM

Trouble 2011,

I don't believe you.

I heard that military fable back in the 70's.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 5:20 PM

After reading Enlistedwife's original comment and follow-up comments, I think everything after the first sentence is supposed to be a quote from the Commander of the Dental Squadron's wife, not her own. Otherwise she has sarcastically called herself a 'gem of a wife', and come to the banter box to shame herself. I think all that was missing were some quotation marks.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 12:06 PM

I agree, what a snot. Very poor behavior. Your poor husband, having his rank used in such a horrible way. You abused his rank and discredited it with your behavior. Poor guy.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 11:12 AM

Enlisted Wife...you CLEARLY stated that you used your husbands rank. Just admit that you were wrong and be done with it. You should have explained what happened. The woman asked you PLEASE to give her the pen back and instead of explaining the situation, you got snotty with her. Shame on you for acting that way. I hope your husband finds out and gives you an ear full about how to behave properly in public.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Sat, Feb 11, 2012, at 10:25 AM

My favorite was when I was stationed at Fairchild AFB. We go a new Base Commander and he was holding meetings at the officer club. I was there supporting the day as part of the amubulance crew.

The next meeting was the officers wifes club (back then that is what it was called). He got up and said before I start I want everyone to sit in rows by rank......Col up front, Lt. Col, Major...ect toward the back.

The ladies got up and moved around for 5-6 min...my husband is a captain...mine is a lietenant so I sit behind you.

After everyone sits the new base commander said "I don't know what you just did because you are all civilians, If I every hear of any of you using your husbands rank I will take it out on them."

It brought tears to my eye, I had to do everything to keep from clapping.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 7:19 PM

InTheRough No, it was not I. It was the commander of dentals wife. And I am kinda irritated at her comments, throwing rank around. After all, i am an ENLISTED wife, not a commanders wife.

-- Posted by Enlistedwife on Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 4:34 PM

Enlistedwife... You used your husband's rank to explain you didn't have to replace the pen? Shame on you, for exploiting someone else's DESERVED rank, and not one you yourself earned.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 4:08 PM


We needed to know this WHY?

-- Posted by maybeso on Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 3:56 PM

Wow, the Commander of the Dental Squadron out on base sure has a gem of a wife.

Had to play the 'Commander's Wife' card today. Never do, but today I HAD too.

Filling out the obligatory checklist to see my Doctor this morning, the receptionist hands me a clipboard and a pen taped with a precious glittery pink heart (hospital is on a budget, no more pens stolen I guess).

Gotta pee, real bad. Instead of setting the clipboard on counter, I take it to the bathroom with me. Well, yes, you guessed it. Glittery pink pen falls in toilet AFTER I urinated (couldn't be before of course). So, do I give back urinated glittery pink pen back to the receptionist?! No, I fished it out, threw it away.

Take filled out clipboard back to receptionist. "Ma'am, could I please have the pen back?" Normally I would have straight up told her what happened, but today I just ain't feel'in it. So I replied, "NO, can't have it back! I like it too much, so I'm gonna keep it. My husband is a Commander... take it out of his check this week."

-- Posted by Enlistedwife on Fri, Feb 10, 2012, at 3:24 PM

Ok i have to say this,, after the arrest of the suspect in the recent knifing, where are all the anti Singapore, Saudi, Mexican people? I have noticed that none of them have made a comment that they were wrong and jumped to conclusions. If I was to use some of thier logic, if you want to call it that, maybe we need to send all the people from the base away. I am not an advocate for that at all but hope that some of the small minded people see that they need to broaden their horizons some.

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Feb 9, 2012, at 9:18 PM

Yeah, I guess those "romors" were wrong, huh? What a suprise.

-- Posted by VicVega on Thu, Feb 9, 2012, at 3:32 PM

Great job by MHPD. I wish all those that jumped to conclusions about the attacker would retract the statements they made.

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Feb 9, 2012, at 12:34 PM


-- Posted by roosterz on Thu, Feb 9, 2012, at 11:56 AM

"It against policy to post copyrighted material on our comment boards. Please summarize the points of the story and provide a link to the original web site if you want to reference copyrighted material from another site. Because of this policy, we have removed a comment here that quoted in full an Associated Press article. Thank you for understanding."

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Mon, Feb 6, 2012, at 10:14 AM

Per legal notice in paper and the MHSD web. Guess we have decided to sell what was not given away...YOUR tax dollars at work once again.




Mountain Home, Elmore County, Idaho

INVITATION TO SUBMIT A BID FOR AUCTION IS HEREBY GIVEN in that Mountain Home School District is disposing of tools and equipment related to the

woodshop and carpentry classes, which are no longer offered, through a silent bid

process. The items are available for inspection at Mountain Home High School (Carpentry Class) from January 30, 2012, until February 2, 2012, from 3:30 p.m. until 5:00 p.m. A list of large power equipment with photos that is up for bid, a list of hand power tools up for bid, and a list of hand tools up for bid can be found on the school district website, www.mtnhomesd.org, under the School Board tab. Tools include by are

not limited to routers, table saws, lathes, planers, jointers, drill press, hand sanders, skill saws, dust collection and filtration systems, and tools, concrete finish tool, and other miscellaneous items.

Please visit the Mountain Home School District website, www.mtnhomesd.org,

for detailed bidding instructions. Bids close on February 3, 2012, at 4:00 p.m. If you have

any questions, please email Cliff Ogborn at ogborn_ca@sd193.k12.id.us or call 208-587-


Published January 25, 2012, and February 1, 2012

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM

Received the email- thanks.

-- Posted by midea on Sun, Feb 5, 2012, at 12:56 PM


Do you plan to attend any of the MHSD meetings on how to pass another levy? Thanks!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 5, 2012, at 9:28 AM

Wow, 5 stabbed in a bar in Mountain Home last night. Looking for suspect per Idaho Statesman. http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/02/05...

-- Posted by midea on Sun, Feb 5, 2012, at 9:21 AM

I was amazed this morning watching Channel 7 news as Attorney General Holder showed such disrespect for Mr. Labrador. And then to say," ... in Idaho or where ever you are from..." Wow, I dont have a big opinion on Fast and Furious but after that display of disrespect I think he should be fired not resign

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Fri, Feb 3, 2012, at 6:49 PM

Sad passing of an era.....RIP


-- Posted by roosterz on Fri, Feb 3, 2012, at 1:38 PM


-- Posted by roosterz on Fri, Feb 3, 2012, at 1:36 PM

However the State's allocation to teacher salaries pans out in the end, the only thing certain to happen is that if the State decreases money to the Districts, the Districts will cut/freeze salary or cut teaching positions/programs to meet the budget crunch.

On the other hand, if the State increases allocation to Districts for teacher salaries, Districts will look for any other legal way to use the money before any teacher sees a dime of it.

There may also be a semantical smokescreen being employed with State "Teacher Salary" percent increases. Our SDE could claim that the money is being targeted for "Pay for Performance" programs...as such, they are telling the truth that the funds are set for Teacher Salaries. However; if you ask any teacher what they have to do as individuals to earn a bonus, I don't think you'll get an answer that makes sense.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 5:01 PM

Uh and FYI Observer...most folks out there realize that this is the budget proposal and that nothing has been approved yet (it is all over the news afterall). Once again, I did state it was for the 2012/2013 budget...never said it was approved---just indicated what was asked for.The State Dept. of Ed. does not seem to feel that the pay matter will be in issue (as stated in this phone call). They seem to have support for at least this portion of the proposed budget.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 8:23 PM

Per my call to the Dept. of Ed and the information that was provided to me by that office via email, there is no reason why that pay will not be reinstated. So, before you tell me I am being less than factual, perhaps you should call them yourself and do some research. I do realize that this is the PROPOSED budget request and that it has not been approved---I just reported what was requested and what that agency reported to me when I inquired. Would you like my contact information or a copy of that email?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 8:04 PM

Thank you. I hope that people will attend these meetings. If we are really concerned about the future of education in this community, we need to be informed based on facts and data---not what someone tells us. I hope people will attend these meetings and give some good feedback.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 2:18 PM

Very well said and written OM

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 6:46 AM

I liked what you wrote Opinion Missy. good for you

-- Posted by snafu on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 AM

Re: the MHSD and (maybe) propsed levy, etc.:

Union dues are indeed paid by the teachers and IA's employed by the MHSD. Tax dollars do NOT pay those dues...tax dollars do however pay for the pay raises, etc. negotiated by the union.

As far as the people who come on here to piss and moan about the MHSD and how money is spent, I have this to say---

I went to the meeting last night on how to get a levy passed for the money "needed" for the MHSD. I was NOT invited to sit in this room but elected to do so, on my own so that I would know, first hand, what in the heck is going on.

40-45 people were asked to sit on this "board of citizens." The MHSD, Mr. Gilbert to be more specific, told me last night that they asked senior citizens, people who are "anti" MHSD/bond/levy/more taxes, school employees, etc. to participate. Of those people asked (face to face mind you and through direct contact by the MHSD) very few attended/took part/showed up---who were specifically contacted.

Last night at that meeting, there were 25-26 people present (not including Mr. Gilbert, Mr. McMurtrey and the MHSD Budget & Finance guru). Of that, many were MHSD employees (teachers, head of maintenance, coaches, etc.).

If you are really and truly concerned about what is going on with the MHSD and how your money is being spent, YOU should attend the meetings. I was encouraged to speak at this meeting and my questions were answered. Even more important, while it was fairly clear that I was one of the most "anti-education" or "naysayers" (naysayer was a word used last night at the meeting by a person at this meeting), my questions were answered and in a respectful manner (mutual respect mind you by myself as well as the MHSD employees).

If you choose (and it is a choice) to not be involved, then you have no reason/standing to complain. They are asking for input. If you choose not to attend and be informed then do not complain when another levy is approved and you do not like how that money is being spent.

I heart my boys, I do not think that the MHSD is playing up the problems with these buildings such as a leaky roof (many of them to be more specific) and I really did not intend to come across in that manner. I just find the timing of all this to be very suspect. Cuts need to be made. Enrollment is down and times are tough. They propose cuts with very vague language. Will these cuts really be made? The way some of the proposed "cuts" read as of last night, in my opinion, they will not be made.

I had a very interesting post meeting conversation with Mr. Gilbert last night. He was very straight forward. IMHO, 10,000 more "concerned citizens" need to have a similar conversation with him or a member of the MHSD Administration (I would skip the MH School Board myself, they do not want to hear from the public---in my persoanl experience).

So, if you do not attend these meetings, you probably should not really say anything. Because by not attending these meetings, you are a part of the problem and not the solution.

My 2 cents.

Next meeting is at the Mountain Home Public Library on February 9, 2012 at 6:00 P.M. Do your own research and be informed.

On a side note, I spent 1 hour on the phone yesterday with the State Dept. of Education. Teachers pay cuts from last year will be reinstated. They took a 2.83% cut and will see a 3% return (per the State Dept. of Education, yesterday) for the 2012/2013 budget year. Teachers will also be eligible for up to $8,000 in performance based pay which is on top of their base salary (also per the State Dept. of Education) for the 2012/2013 budget year.

And for the record, I am not anti-education. I am pro-education. I am stated to be a "naysayer" or "anti-education" because I am against a levy/bond and higher taxes BASED on what is currently proposed by the MHSD as far as spending and vague "cuts." I hope that this train will turn around and that some commmon sense and honesty will shine through. I hope. I would be one of the MHSD's most outspoken supporters if I could be confident, based on the facts and data, that they were being fiscally responsible and proactive toward the future. I would GLADLY pay higher taxes if Admin pay was more in line with what some of these people contribute---really contribute---to the MHSD and the community (students and taxpayers). I am not there yet and may never be but at least I have the facts and data to support that decision. I hope there is a day when the MHSD decides to "partner" with this community for better education. There is no doubt that the children deserve that and we NEED smartl, well educated future leaders. However, a levy every 2 years and bond elections are not the answer and threats of "nuclear solutions" are not the answer either. There is nothing worse than a demand for money while holding the voting public captive (gun to our head tactics). When people have their backs up against a wall the outcome is seldom what we would like.

Hope that helps some of you out. If you do not want this "Citizens Board" to be all MHSD employees, attend the meetings. If not, please do not complain. Good day.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jan 27, 2012, at 11:52 AM

That's right, "CITY EMPLOYEES", you might as well cater to the whims of people who think they have a solution for everything instead of focusing on your job and assignments. (actually, keep doing the fine job you're doing; I think most normal people are quite satisfied with your performance in your duties)

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 10:27 PM

Dear Mr. Idahowantswolves - Really, don't you have anything more constructive to do besides driving around at night? Of course you are going to draw attention to yourself from law enforcement. Sounds to me that you were purposely doing it TO draw their attention. Good on Elmore County for following you.

-- Posted by bearhunter on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 6:18 PM

Its amazing how the police say its the public breaking all the traffic laws around here. Some day set downtown at an intersection and see how many times a MHPD car fails to make a complete stop, fail too use turn signals, improper lane turns, stopping with their cars in crosswalks at stop signs. In a 2 hour period , observed 11 MHPD cars violate these traffic laws in the downtown area. Observe and see.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 11:27 PM

Did the city have the trucks out clearing snow. The roads were terrible. I don't think anything was done with the city streets. Was the city saving money yesterday, figuring it would melt with the rain forecasted for late night? Real dangerous all day!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 10:11 AM

I have read a couple of comments about clearing the snow and frost from our cars and I have to agree. I am tired of seeing so many people with a little hole to look out of while they are driving. It is very important to clear your windows AND to remove the snow from your car, for the safety of yourself and others.

I don't know how many times I have had a big chunk of snow fly off of someone's car and land on my windshield or hit my car. It's dangerous and I wish that tickets could be issued for it.

As for the people who are complaining about the police "harassment"...If you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about if you are followed for one minute or thirty. Is it right for police to do this, probably not, though it's not illegal either. Just follow the laws and you won't have anything to worry about.

Just my opinion on a couple of things I have read lately! Everyone be safe and consider others in your actions! Don't have the "it won't happen to me attitude" because some day, it will!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 7:36 AM

Just a reminder to please clear the snow not only from the windows but the hood, roof and trunk of your vehicle. I lost count of how many cars were driving around today witha mountain of snow on the vehicle that fell off when going down the rod or when stopping. And by clearing snow from your windshield, using the wipers DOES NOT remove all the snow and blocks your vision. Take a few minutes to clear all the snow. A simple push with a soft brush will do the trick. I have a large truck and spend a few minutes cleaning off the snow not only to make things better for me but others on the road as well.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Jan 18, 2012, at 6:22 PM

MHAFB early release article - Base closes....very slick....schools open??? I totally understand the dilemma with sending kids home early; however, everyone knew this storm was coming. Schools should have never been in session to begin with today. Don't think a snow day every few years will forever damage our childrens' educations. "freezing temperatures overnight, making Thursday morning drives extremely hazardous" in the same article, but our school officials have to wait until morning to make a final decision? That'll give all the parents lots of time to make other arrangements, as well? Just cancel classes for tomorrow now and make it easy and safer for everyone. Geeeezzz.

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Jan 18, 2012, at 1:24 PM

I hope no one does.

-- Posted by skeeter on Sun, Jan 15, 2012, at 7:17 AM


Watch the whole video and see if you approve.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 8:10 PM

Maybe following someone for 15 minutes, IF that actually happened, is pushing things a tad. You should be able to establish a driving pattern before then. Maybe the officer was waiting for dispatch to return some information he/she had requested. Hard to say. However, I do know that law enforcement is a mostly thankless job and definetly dangerous and that law enforcement as a whole should be supported by their community. Do they need to earn that support and respect? Absolutely. If you want the respect and support of your community, you have to play the game by the rules. A good "cop" is a tool of God. A bad one....well.....you get the point. But before passing judement on the people who are trying to protect you, ask yourself. Would I or could I do their job? Thankfully, they are willing to do the job. Keep up the good work, ECSO and MHPD. And as far as the new chief, gee whiz, give the guy a chance. He's still settling in.

-- Posted by mytwobits on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 6:42 PM

So the picture of the 4 men pissing on dead Taliban is disgusting, and admittedly never should have happened. The media has made a big thing out of this, but they seem to have forgotten about our poor servicemen who were beaten to death, then hooked up with a rope behind a vehicle, and dragged through the streets, where people kicked and spit on them. How soon we forget :-( Compared to that, what our troops did was minor in my estimation, but still a thoughtless stupid act.

-- Posted by oldrider on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 8:31 AM

I would like to take a minute to remind folks to make sure your windows are free of frost before you drive away in the mornings. Twice in the last two weeks my car was almost hit by drivers with the windows frosted over.

This morning the person did a turn on red right in front of me, windows completely frosted. The other time was an almost head on with a someone that could not see clearly through the 3 inches in the middle they scraped off.

It really does not take that long and it could be your own life you are saving.

-- Posted by maybeso on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 1:19 PM


But when those driver are doing nothing against the law, and being stopped and bullied by an officer, that is harrasment. Like makeing up false reason to pull them over just to see if they r drunk. It Happens.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 10:31 AM

It's been literally 45 minutes since my last post and it has already been deleted. What is the point of having a banter box if you're not able to freely express your opinion???

-- Posted by Respectthelaw214 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 1:25 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
I have been into your account and nothing has been deleted. Even when I do delete a comment it stays on the account for us as reference. It never goes away, it is just not active for public view. If you still have problems, let me know. B

I as a citizen of this town would much rather have our law enforcement follow someone for 15 minutes than disregard and run the risk of having that individual take the life of another. It's those petty traffic stops that people in this community complain about that lead to DUI's and a lot of the times may end up saving a life especially that of a person you may know. Thank you to all of our city and county law enforcement for all you do. It is greatly appreciated.

-- Posted by Respectthelaw214 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 12:37 PM

WOW! All I hear about is the "Shifty Fifty" that run Mountain Home. Is this an elected group? Do they have a term limit?

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 11:08 AM

What happened to the city's big plan for the kings building. ITS STILL AN EMPTY EYE SOAR. Was this another shifty fifty waste of of city tax payers money.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 10:20 AM

I dunno, maybe some healthy competition would be good for the area. Lucky O'Reilly's isn't owned by one of the "Shifty Fifty" or you would have never seen and Autozone!

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 8:39 AM

Well, maybe we don't need more auto parts but it's better than a dump or dairy. Auto parts stores smell really good inside.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 4:29 PM

Well, maybe we don't need another auto parts stose but, methinks it's better than another dump or dairy. Inside of them stores smell just fine.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 4:24 PM

Thats what I thought- more auto parts!!!

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 9:08 PM

Mr John Doe,

Firstly you obviously know me as you posted my first name, I on the other hand have no clue who you are. Next, my son has never posted at this site and my complaints about the Mountain Home City police department have nothing to do with the trouble my sons have been in in their youth. My complaints have been just and I have posted very few times to this forum. Of those involved in my situation 2 have now resigned from the PD, there were in fact problems with these two men and the way they were dealing with the public. My original post was related to the accident my son was in, my latest post was in reference to a different subject so I believe the situation was in fact "put behind me" until of course you brought it up again. If you have a problem with me I appreciate it if you keep my family out of it, it seems there is something personal in your post that was intended to disgrace both myself and my family how about you keep your anger directed towards me in the future as I am the one making the posts and leave anyone not writing out of it.

Have a lovely day.

-- Posted by McCallumS on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 2:14 PM

Susan McCallum -

You and your families repeated attempts to discredit and disgrace the officers and Chief(s) of the Mtn Home Police Department are getting pathetic and exhuasting. I've followed this and other blogs for a long time. I've seen your other rants and those of your sons and husband. We get it - You don't agree with the fact that your kids got caught and charged for crimes they commited. Your (adult)son got into an accident and you don't agree with the outcome of the investigation - At a certain point, you just need to let it go. You've aired you grievances, now find something else to talk about. The men and women of our two local law enforcement agencies do a hard and sometimes thankless job. You (and especially your husband) should understand this.

-- Posted by Mr. John Doe on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 2:49 PM

Just what we need is another car parts store. How about some stores for clothing and shoes.

or a craft store.

-- Posted by nanaidaho on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 9:28 AM

Does Autozone do a military discount?

-- Posted by goatbeard on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 5:47 PM

New store is Autozone and John Lathrop the old store manager at O'Reilly's is taking over the new Autozone. Be nice to have the competition. O'reilly's rule is to drop prices in any market with an Autozone, match their store hours. Autozone will price match. A win/win for Mtn Home

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 7:55 PM

Sign says Autozone plus they are hiring if anyone is looking for a job. I did not see what you hade to do to apply but that is what it said when I drove by.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 8:26 AM

I have heard it is going to be an AutoZone

-- Posted by just1 on Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 9:03 PM

Anyone know what's being built next to McDonalds and Elmore Eye Care?

-- Posted by MtnHomeCtzn on Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 8:56 PM

Where could you go in Mtn Home for 15 mins except around in circles? You sound suspicious to me also.

-- Posted by jdvann on Thu, Dec 29, 2011, at 7:55 PM

Does anyone remember a family with the last name of Chathams who lived in Mountain Home, Sally and Sheldon were their names, though they are both deceased. If so, do you know of anyone around here who has contact with their family members? I would like to contact them if possible. Thanks in advance!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Dec 29, 2011, at 9:31 AM

Let me get this straight. You get followed by an officer for 15 minutes, and you think that's harassment? Really?

-- Posted by InTheRough on Thu, Dec 29, 2011, at 8:23 AM

As for the dead black birds, now I know. We live in that Morris area and have seen many dead birds around, and just couldn't figure out what it was that was causing their deaths. I don't have to wonder any longer :-)

-- Posted by oldrider on Thu, Dec 29, 2011, at 8:21 AM


Good post, I agree with u. A few weeks ago I had an officer follow me for over 15 min. The officer was 162 , thinking just cause ur driving dowtown at 10.00 u must be drunk comming from the bar. it is harrasment. I havent drank in years. I was just board and thought I would drive around for awhile. It does need to change, and it sure hasnt.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Dec 27, 2011, at 10:11 PM

Interesting how we now have a new city chief and yet the many of the city law enforcement officers continue to harass citizens. Complain or show proof of the injustices that are being committed and still nothing has changed. I have observed a cop car coming up behind me as I drove down American Legion, he is then next to me and next he is passing me quite fast. There are no lights, not sirens. I actually followed this officer as he passed Wal-mart then exited American Legion and parked in the City law enforcement parking lot.(For those who always have to find fault in everything people write about in this forum--I did not speed up, I followed behind at the posted speed limit) I have observed a cop car exiting a business on the left hand side of the street, I am in the left hand lane going forward, this officer pulls out in front of me, moves into the middle lane without blinkers, without even pulling into the left hand lane at all. I am certain it is not OK for drivers to break the laws, no matter what they are driving in. I believe that law enforcement should be held above other drivers, they are supposed to be setting examples. How can they continue to pull people over for things they are guilty of doing themselves? Why are they not accountable for their actions? So Chief Schultz will you continue to let your officers make mistakes without consequences? Allow them to pull people over for reasons they have concocted in hopes of scoring a DUI? Allow them to hide behind the badge?

-- Posted by McCallumS on Tue, Dec 27, 2011, at 1:26 AM

MH Resident

Im so sick of u people saying its all about the money, so if china would pay 20 trillion for the USA u would be happy?????????????:? (*&^%)

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Mon, Dec 26, 2011, at 8:17 PM

MH Resident:

The birds being killed/managed was very well covered at all of the hearings (public hearings) that took place BEFORE the dairy industry (factory "farms") were allowed in Elmore County. Had your friends attended these hearings (public hearings) then they would know all about the program. The birds must be "managed" because of the jets and also because when the dairies came...so did the birds and a town can only have so many birds.

This information is all public record. Check it all out for yourself. As for dead birds all over the place...that is the price we pay for "economic growth and development" and the pursuit of "jobs and a living wage" in this town (as promised and promoted by this industry at the public hearings). I would worry less about dead birds and more about how many illegals work in these places and take jobs from US citizens that need the work and the pollution these "farms" create to water and environment.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Dec 26, 2011, at 2:27 PM


So you can post whatever you want because it's America, but I have to leave the country if I dislike something?

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sat, Dec 24, 2011, at 6:21 PM


Did you take offence to my little comment hmm... Oh and did you really break out the "it's America" argument really? I think I'll use the "I'm rubber your glue" rebuttal. My comment was more of a generalized statement for everyone who enjoys posting here and yes your right you can post whatever you like because "you're good enough, you're smart enough, and doggone it, people like you." Plus I like wolves too. Just remember if you need a hug I'm the guy in the cardboard box at the old grain silos.

As always spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Dec 24, 2011, at 10:32 AM


Just like you can post what you want, I can post what I want , Its America

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Fri, Dec 23, 2011, at 2:32 PM

So future reference... instead of for instance oh I don't know um copying and then pasting the rhetoric from a news story, you can just post the link. That way if we actually think... ya know I would love to read what fox news has to say on some random thing they dislike today.... we can then go read it. Oh and it saves a little space just sayin.

As always spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Fri, Dec 23, 2011, at 1:24 PM

Merry Christmas Brenda, family and the staff at the News.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Fri, Dec 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM


-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Fri, Dec 23, 2011, at 12:30 PM

I read through these comments and I laugh at how some people get worked up over offending coments. I heard this quite a long time ago and I think it applies here. "A person of above average intelligence talks about ideas, a person of average intelligence talks about events and a person of below average intelligence talks about people." Whether those people are ones making comments against others or people who comment on groups of people. Either way you are doing the latter and one can imply your level of intellect.

-- Posted by NYtypeofgirl on Fri, Dec 23, 2011, at 12:17 AM

Fox News

Extremist Teachings Remain in Saudi Textbooks Despite Kingdom's Claims of Reform

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/12/21/...

Despite Saudi Arabia's promises to clean up textbooks in the kingdom, recent editions continue to raise alarms in the West over jihadist language.

The recent editions were obtained by the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, D.C., and the translations were first provided to Fox News.

"This is where terrorism starts, in the education system." Ali Al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs, told Fox News. Al-Ahmed, a Saudi national, said the textbooks, made and paid for by the Saudi government, were smuggled out of the kingdom through confidential sources.

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In a textbook for 10th-graders, printed for the 2010-2011 academic year, al-Ahmed said teenagers are taught barbaric practices. "They show students how to cut (the) hand and the feet of a thief," he said. In another textbook, for ninth-graders, the students are taught the annihilation of the Jewish people is imperative. One text reads in part: "The hour (of judgment) will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. ... There is a Jew behind me come and kill him."

According to the textbook translations provided to Fox News, women are described as weak and irresponsible. And al-Ahmed said the textbooks call for homosexuals to be put to death "because they pose a danger at society, as the Saudi school books teaches."

Al-Ahmed say the textbooks are both a Saudi and an American problem. "If you teach six million children in these important years of their lives, if you install that in their brain, no wonder we have so many Saudi suicide bombers."

After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, there was an intense focus on Saudi Arabia and its educational teachings because almost all of the attackers were from the kingdom. In 2006, Saudi Ambassador to the U.S. Prince Turki al-Faisal told the Chicago Council on Foreign Relationships that the Saudi king was determined to eradicate this ideology of hate.

"In Saudi Arabia, King Abdullah recognizes that above all else education is the key, and he has put forth a program of reforms in this area," al-Faisal said. "In recent years, the kingdom has reviewed all of its education practices and materials and has removed any element that is inconsistent with the needs of a modern education. Not only have we eliminated what is objectionable from old textbooks that were in our system, we have also implemented a comprehensive internal revision and modernization plan. "

But the new textbooks, most from the 2010-2011 academic year, show the hateful speech remains.

In Atlanta earlier this month, the Saudi minister responsible for the textbooks talked about the importance of education for woman. Asked by Fox News about the textbooks, Prince Faisal Bin Abdullah Al-Saud said, "I always say to people, please come. Come, try to see us. But come without a preconceived idea. ... Especially when you want to raise the future, no one is going to introduce violence. Violence is absolutely against - I think this is, I don't know who put in those ideas."

When Fox News offered to show the quotes to the minister, he said, "there are many quotes" and walked away.

Fox News also asked the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C., for comment on the textbooks and the translations, but there was no immediate response.

Fox News national correspondent Catherine Herridge's bestselling book "The Next Wave: On the Hunt for al Qaeda's American Recruits," published by Crown, draws on her reporting for Fox News into the American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and his new generation of recruits -- Al Qaeda 2.0.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/12/21/...

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Dec 21, 2011, at 11:36 PM

Sure am glad I spent my entire military career in only one branch of service. I'd hate to feel a need to compensate.

-- Posted by MrMister on Wed, Dec 21, 2011, at 8:28 PM

Well if they weren't they are now

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM

These comments are annoying and ridiculous.

-- Posted by ashleycorbus on Tue, Dec 20, 2011, at 7:14 AM


Unless there is some personal connection with the person who told you "it was not your concern," I think such arrogance needs identification...after all, you're paying the bill; which may also include that person's salary.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 4:57 PM


Yes and yes.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:32 PM

GREAT JOB WEST ELEMENTARY. Security lights only.

Thank You

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 7:54 PM

Just thought this would be a GREAT time to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Also to remind each and every one to remember the spirit of the season.

-- Posted by Auctionhunter on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 4:57 PM

One answer;

Yes, I have contacted the school district and was told it was not my concern. I will not print the name of the person who told me that.

Two questions.

"snafu" Do the cleaners/janitors walk to the school, as in no vehicles in the parking lot?

"midea" Do you pay property taxes, and if you do, do you care how they are spent?

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:58 PM


Did you ever try to contact the school and find out why the lights are on? It might alleviate your frustation and posts.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 7:27 AM

They do have to clean the building at night. Can not do it in the dark.

-- Posted by snafu on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 4:57 AM

Again, lots of lights on at West Elementary and no cars in the parking lot. It's only tax dollars so nobody cares.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:19 PM

Some people would find writings genuinely more sincere if the author wouldn't feel the need to continually toot his own horn.

-- Posted by MrMister on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:15 PM

You know what, I will change the word.

Idahowantswolves, your comments do not make you a racist.

A bigot on the other hand...

-- Posted by InTheRough on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 12:36 PM

I am very aware it is a religion, but my point was idahowantswolves and others on here are treating like a race. I see "those people" in the comments left, instead of people with that religion.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:45 AM

Intherough stated: There is a difference between free speech and just being a racist. Just as people are free to say what they like (for the most part), others are free to respond, even in a negative manner.

First off, thank you for agreeing with me. Others (Lowes) are free to respond (to the muslim show) even if it's in a negative manner.(pulling their ads)

Lowes is indeed a private company consisting of private investors more commonly known has stock holders.

Secondly Lowes nor anyone else can be considered "racists" since muslim is a religion and NOT a race of people. Just like Catholics, LDS, Baptists. Muslims around the worls come in as many different RACES as do Catholics and LDS. White, black, brown...there are muslims in all colors.

You have to remember that this is still (for now) a free country and that private companies such as Lowes can spend their advertising money as they see fit. If they're stock holders tell the board that they don't like the direction the advertising is going then Lowes would best pull the ad from where ever it was placed.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 1:50 AM


Lowes is a PRIVATE company who has its stocks traded on the open market. If it was to be a PUBLIC company than the local, state, or federal goverment would have to own 51% of its stock. Being owned by the PUBLIC means the goverment controls the decision making of the company. This is not the case for Lowes. Lowes is run by a CEO and board of directors for the investors of the private company. In the case of Chevy that got bailed out by the US goverment they became a PUBLIC company for a short time and the goverment fired the president. Lowes is not a PUBLIC company or the taxes payers would own it.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 1:34 PM


As you feel that Lowes is a company who have the right to pull their ads from occuring during All American Muslim, know that it is a PUBLIC company, not private.

They are under the same guidelines as other public companies and can't just pick and choose without some sort of repercussion.

There is a story on MSNBC.com that discusses a WHITE woman posting a WHITE ONLY sign at a PUBLIC pool. The reason she posted it? An African American girl.

There is a difference between free speech and just being a racist. Just as people are free to say what they like (for the most part), others are free to respond, even in a negative manner.

As an example, idahowantswolves wants everyone to believe what he states, he is only pulling info from another country, which doesn't fly here. But we still get to respond.

Free will, and think for yourself.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 9:26 AM

Just want to send a huge thank you to all who were involved in the shop with a cop program. Your generosity of your time is greatly appreciated. Everyone involved I say thank you so much. And a big thank you for all those who have donated monies throughout the year to help these needy children and thier families. Hats off to you all!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by transplanted on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 9:23 AM


Why are you so quick to discount everyone else's opinion? You can sure lay your racist ignorant and close minded opinion, but in the land of free speech, we get to say ours too.

Your solution, if someone disagrees with you, is to tell them to leave?

If you are so worried about the Saudi's coming, why don't you leave? You seem to be more worried about it than ANYONE else.

I happen to know lilmisselmo. Lilmisselmo is thoughtful, intelligent (oh, that means she is smart, just wanted to make sure you understood, since your ignorance is showing), and understands what is going on. All you can do is spout items from another country, of what is not allowed in this one.

Know the difference. If you want to match wits with someone, make sure you come armed.

Lilmisselmo has a full arsenal. My money is on her.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 9:18 AM

Lots of lights on and no vehicles in the parking lots at West Elementary. I guess I should be glad MY TAX DOLLARS DON'T PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL. Oh gosh I think it is on us taxpayers.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:03 PM

Great post midea and interesting article to say the least. Thank you for posting that.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 3:58 PM

(CNN) -- A woman was beheaded in Saudi Arabia for practicing witchcraft and sorcery, the kingdom's Interior Ministry said, prompting Amnesty International to call for a halt in executions there.

Amina bint Abdel Halim Nassar was executed Monday for having "committed the practice of witchcraft and sorcery," according to an Interior Ministry statement. Nassar was investigated before her arrest and was "convicted of what she was accused of based on the law," the statement said. Her beheading took place in the Qariyat province of the region of Al-Jawf, the ministry said.

In a statement issued late Monday, the human rights group called the execution "deeply shocking" and said it "highlights the urgent need for a halt in executions in Saudi Arabia."

"While we don't know the details of the acts which the authorities accused Amina of committing, the charge of sorcery has often been used in Saudi Arabia to punish people, generally after unfair trials, for exercising their right to freedom of speech or religion," said Philip Luther, Amnesty International's interim director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme.

Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy, practices a puritanical version of Islam and is governed by Shariah, or Islamic law. In the deeply conservative kingdom, sorcery, witchcraft and blasphemy are all offenses that can be punishable by death.

The London-based Saudi newspaper Al-Hayat quoted a source in the country's religious police who said authorities searched Nassar's home and found books on sorcery, a number of talismans and glass bottles filled with liquids supposedly used for the purposes of magic. The source told the paper Nassar was selling spells and bottles of the liquid potions for about $400 dollars each.

CNN could not reach Saudi Arabia's religious police or Justice Ministry for comment.

Amnesty says Nassar's execution is "the second of its kind in recent months. In September, a Sudanese national was beheaded in the Saudi Arabian city of Medina after being convicted on 'sorcery' charges."

The human rights group said the number of executions in Saudi Arabia has almost tripled in 2011.

"So far at least 79 people -- including five women -- have been executed there, compared to at least 27 in 2010," the Amnesty statement said.

This is not the first sorcery case in Saudi Arabia to spark outrage from human rights groups. In 2008, Lebanese TV host Ali Hussain Sibat was arrested on charges of sorcery while in Saudi Arabia on a religious pilgrimage. In 2009, he was found guilty and sentenced to death. While Sibat has not been executed, he remains in prison.

Saudi Arabia's judicial system also made headlines this month for the sentence imposed on Australian national Mansor Almaribe, who was convicted of blasphemy while performing the Hajj in the kingdom, and sentenced to 500 lashes and a year in prison. The Australian government is pleading Almaribe's case.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 1:33 PM


This ia AMERICA, dont like it leave, Its ur right tooo , gooo

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 12:48 PM

lilmisselmo I think you miss the point. BECAUSE it's a free market, Lowes is free to advertise where ever the wish. If your soap company feels that Teen Mom doesn't fit in with their values they are also free to pull their ads from that show.

The more ludicrous point is that a congressman feels he has the right to put up legislation to force a private company to apologize to all muslims and to force the company to spend their advertising on a show that doesn't reflect the values of Lowes. This is still a free country and any legislation like what was stated would fly directly in the face of our constitution.

As for the peace loving muslims portrayed in the show? The way they exercise their religion is contrary to what is taught to muslims in the rest of the world. To be honest, if these families were to take their American muslim beliefs to say Saudi Arabia, they would be punished severly up to and including death.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:39 AM

That story is ridiculous. Is it so wrong to advertise during a show that is trying to give people a peek into the fact that not all Muslims are infidel-killing bomb-happy America-hating people?

Lowes probably just wants to get people into their store. I DOUBT purchasing ad space there was anything more than a chance to get an ad out there. How was that standing up for America's rights? Are we so into limited a free market that we are willing to boycott ad space because we don't like the TV show?

I think Teen Mom has begun glamorizing certain aspects of teen pregnancy. Does that mean that my favorite soap should stop advertising while it's on? NO. That is a ridiculous expectation.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 1:27 AM

Good For Lowes for standing up for Americas rights

NEW YORK -- Lowe's is planning to stick by its decision to yank its ads from a reality TV show about American Muslims despite the growing opposition the home improvement chain is facing over the move.

California Sen. Ted Lieu put a statement out on Sunday that he is considering calling for a boycott of Lowe's Cos., sparking criticism of the chain from leaders in the Muslim community.

On social media web site Twitter, actor Kal Penn is began directing people to a petition on signon.org in support of the TLC cable network show, "All-American Muslim." By Monday afternoon, there were about 9,200 signatures.

Lowe's stopped running commercials during "All-American Muslim" after a conservative group known as the Florida Family Association e-mailed advertisers to ask them to stop advertising on the show.

The group said the program, which follows the lives of Muslim families living in the Metro Detroit area, was "propaganda that riskily hides the Islamic agenda's clear and present danger to American liberties and traditional values."

On Monday, Congressman Keith Ellison, who is Muslim, released a statement condemning Lowe's Cos. for choosing "to uphold the beliefs of a fringe hate group and not the creed of The First Amendment," the part of the Constitution that protects freedom of religion.

Meanwhile, Lowe's, based in North Carolina, stood by its Sunday statement that it pulled the advertising after the show became a "lightning rod for people to voice complaints from a variety of perspectives -- political, social and otherwise" and says "dozens" of other advertisers also pulled their advertising from the show.

"All-American Muslim" premiered last month and chronicles the lives of five families who live in and near Dearborn, Michigan, a Detroit suburb with a large Muslim and Arab-American population. Proponents of the show, which airs on Monday on TLC, say it portrays regular Muslim families living in the U.S.

TLC spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said "All-American Muslim," which ends its first season on Jan. 8, has garnered a little over a million viewers per week. "We stand behind the show All American Muslim and we're happy the show has strong advertising support," she said.

Florida Family Association, based in Tampa, Florida, claims that more than 60 advertisers that it e-mailed, from Amazon to McDonalds, have also stopped advertising on the show. But so far Lowe's is the only major company to confirm they pulled their ads from the show.

Advertise | AdChoicesAmazon and McDonald's and other advertisers did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

Meanwhile, Atlanta-based Home Depot, which was cited by Florida Family Association as an advertiser who stopped advertising, said Monday they never intended to run any ads during the show, but one commercial ran "inadvertently and without our knowledge," according to spokesman Stephen Holmes.

The controversy highlights the fine line companies must walk when they select shows to advertise on.

Branding expert Laura Ries said Lowe's made two mistakes. The first was advertising during a show that could be construed as controversial. The second was pulling advertising too quickly.

"For a big national brand like Lowe's, they've always got to be incredibly careful when advertising during any show that could be deemed controversial," she said. "Will it seriously damage the brand in the long term? Probably not. But it is a serious punch in the stomach."

Lowe's ad flap comes at a particularly difficult time for Muslims in the Metro Detroit area.

Florida pastor Terry Jones held an anti-Islam rally earlier this year outside Dearborn City Hall after being barred from protesting outside a Muslim mosque in the city. A burning of the Quran in March at Jones' church in Florida led to a series of violent protests in Afghanistan that killed more than a dozen people.

"Metro Detroit and Dearborn have been the focal point of a number of anti-Muslim movements," said Dawud Walid, executive director of Council on American-Islamic Relations' Michigan chapter. "There are organized forces in our society that want to marginalize American Muslims to the point where they don't want to see any portrayals of Muslims that regular Americans can connect to."

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM


Thinking and being are one thing. I don't believe that one section of a group represents the group as a whole. Just as I hope that everyone realizes that idahowantswolves does not represent me nor everyone in Mountain Home nor the base.

9/11 was and still is a very tragic memory. I am a military wife. I sent my husband off days later for who knows where and who knew how long, and if he was ever coming back. I am a military brat as well.

I just ask for other to reserve making a decision on something that hasn't happened. Be prepared if you want, but to just pass judgement on a group as a whole due to a section is a generalization and racist.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 2:34 PM

I was reading our local papers and clicked on this link. This article has a tendency to bother me, make me wonder. Ummmmm.


-- Posted by midea on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 2:16 PM

Idaho Wants Wolves...managed in accordance with the original agreement:


-- Posted by VicVega on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 10:55 AM

I'm sure the 911 killers thought they were just good muslims following the sharia law and treating the infidels the way that sharia law dictates. I wonder what country they came from? I have served in Iraq both in 1991 and in 2005, I have served in Afghanistan in 2004. I have made friends with a few and the line is very thin between them being polite to us infidels to them flying a plane into a building. I won't say they will all decide to be a marter but it only takes one to decide to take out a school of infidels to be a great marter in the eyes of Allah. I know the that it will bring a few jobs and some money, but at what cost? How much is your safety and piece of mind worth? How much does it take to buy your vote?

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 10:48 AM

First of, for the Saudis, its not the SRAF, just like our current Singapore squadron, they are also known as the RSAF.

Secondly, take a second to think about the deal the Saudis are looking for. Overall its worth many tens of billions of dollars to the US at a time when our economy and long term employment could certainly use the boost. Given our government's current appeasement strategy in dealing with most other countries, and what one would assume to be a large lobby effort on the part of industry, what is it that the Saudis want that is forcing the impasse? From what I've been told their have been multiple "absolutely final offers" by our side, but still no agreement. We may not want to know what's holding things up.

Thirdly, don't mistake your impressions of many US Muslims with those that would be showing up here. Its not even an apples and oranges comparison. I spent a year in Saudi training many of the same aircrew that would be coming here, and by now they would be in leadership positions, and I can tell you that they are not to be trusted. In casual conversation its easy to be fooled. Its not so easy for them to hide their true nature when you live and work with them almost every day for a year.

-- Posted by Northside on Sun, Dec 11, 2011, at 8:55 PM

I'll write a very lengthy response injecting as many "supporting" diatribes as I feel necessary to get my point across, even though a mere 50-60 words would work. P.S--I feel so important when I write. Who am I?

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Dec 11, 2011, at 3:54 PM

Idahowantswolves. At least the Muslim members of the SRAF, assuming they are good Muslims, follow Sharia, they are required to follow the laws of the country they are in. Coming straight from the mouth of five different Muslims that I know.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sun, Dec 11, 2011, at 2:16 PM

I hate to tell u, but if the sraf beds down here our laws cant touch them, so hope they dont, lots of people around here dont want them

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Sat, Dec 10, 2011, at 10:28 PM

Free speech also dictates that I can tell you I don't like you what say, write, etc.

Each country has their own laws. Saudi Arabia does not have freedom of religion. We do. Just like we have to follow their laws when in their country, they have to do the same here.

Your rants show ignorance. It's one thing for others to think you are a fool, it's another thing for you to open your mouth and prove them right.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Sat, Dec 10, 2011, at 11:26 AM

Its called free speech, dont like it, dont read it

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Fri, Dec 9, 2011, at 7:09 PM


Why would you assume that something like that happens here? We have our laws, which are not the same as in Saudi Arabia?

Stop with the the racist rants and learn that Ignorance is NOT bliss.

(Insert Eye Roll Here)

-- Posted by InTheRough on Fri, Dec 9, 2011, at 12:51 PM

Australian man faces 500 lashes in Saudi Arabia for blasphemy

Consular officials have contacted Almaribe several times by phone since his arrest in mid-November, and were in the courtroom during the reading of the verdict.

Australian officials said they were informed he was convicted of blasphemy and "making comments insulting to prophet Mohammed's relatives."

His sentence was originally two years imprisonment along with the 500 lashes, but the court reduced the sentence by a year, consular officials said. It was unclear when the lashing punishment will be carried out.

Blasphemy is punishable by up to a death sentence under the strict Muslim law in Saudi Arabia.

yah we want this in mtn home

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Dec 8, 2011, at 3:38 PM

I guess Mountain Home is officially entering the 21st century.

Everyday I see a new city department or local shop join the social media. I guess it's a great way for those of the computer-savvy generation to keep up to date on things.

City of Mtn Home: http://www.facebook.com/pages/City-of-Mo...

Animal Shelter:




Elmore County Sheriff:


-- Posted by MtnHomeCtzn on Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 7:50 PM

Eagle Eye, I did not get the paper yet. I don't realize how busy I am until I look up and the clock says after 5:00. I need to do it though. Thanks for the reminder :)

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 6:28 PM


-- Posted by yoB on Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 4:17 AM

I guess if the MHN is going to have State News on the site they will have to find a new source.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Dec 6, 2011, at 3:08 AM

ItsJustMeAgain, you are so right, we have a Postal system that just doesn't work anymore. To many over paid supervisors and a real lack of workers. All you have to do is look at mail delivery with the amount of carriers that no longer around and the new ones everyday. Congress created most of their debt problem but nobody is fixing it and it looks more likely than not Postal service becoming a thing of the past.

BTW did you get your paper you were looking for?

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Dec 5, 2011, at 3:29 PM

Talk about crazy! I was at the post office today and it was full of people, like almost out the door and as one went out, more would come in. What's so crazy about that you ask? ONE, count them, ONE person behind the counter helping people.

Turned out that the other one was on lunch. Okay fine, they need to eat, however, it seems that this time of year would prove that a second person is needed and someone could cover for her lunch, even if that someone has to be the Postmaster himself.

It is completely unacceptable to leave ONE person working that way and having to deal with all of those people backing up, getting cranky and even some walking out.

Seems to me that if the Post Office is going bankrupt, losing customers to UPS or Fedex is NOT the way to solve the problem.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Mon, Dec 5, 2011, at 2:59 PM

Good job to the City on the Christmas lights at the Railroad Park. Good idea to move everything over there on the main street where everyone can enjoy the lights. Every year seems to get new ideas and a better showing for the Holiday.

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Mon, Dec 5, 2011, at 2:32 PM

ESA Bazaar at North Elementary was great!

Lots of shoppers and variety of things to admire

People visiting, meeting new folks

Thanks to everyone!

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Sun, Dec 4, 2011, at 9:44 AM

Oops...sorry to repeat a question. I have since then sent another e-mail that has gone unanswered. It just seems odd to me that there is never an answer in e-mail. Thanks guys! I'll try walking in when I get the time to do that.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Dec 2, 2011, at 7:38 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Who are you emailing? I have never received a request for back issues. I do answer all my email's and can not speak for anyone else. You could of ended up in junk mail too. Those in many dept's do not get read due to the multitude of junk mail. To answer your question, we keep so many back issues for sale until they are gone. You would have to stop by and see if that particular edition was still available. You can call me direct and give me the date and I can look to save you a trip. b

There is a bazaar at North Elementary this Saturday.

-- Posted by Anne Bowlden on Thu, Dec 1, 2011, at 7:36 PM

Last year there was a Christmas Bazaar at one of the schools, and it was awesome. I went to a craft fair a couple of weeks ago that wasnt nearly as good. If anyone knows when that is happening again, that would be awesome. Thank you very much. Happy Holidays!

-- Posted by NYtypeofgirl on Thu, Dec 1, 2011, at 6:20 PM

ItsJustMeAgain, You asked that same question back on 7 Oct and Brenda at the news answered you. So do what goatbeard said and a good chance you will find the paper.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Dec 1, 2011, at 1:23 PM

JustMe........Try walking into their office and ask them. They are wonderful people, not scary in the least. They will happily help you right away.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Thu, Dec 1, 2011, at 7:11 AM

Does anyone know how to get back issues of the Mountain Home News? I have e-mailed them and can't seem to get an answer. I am getting worried since I want one from September. Thanks for any help you can give me!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Dec 1, 2011, at 5:30 AM

Does anyone know if the senior citizens or nursing homes are putting together a Chistmas wish list? Thanks.

-- Posted by signalman on Thu, Nov 24, 2011, at 2:21 PM

Chamber of Commerce lists the Christmas Parade of Lights at being held on 2 Dec at 7pm. Here is the link: http://mountainhomechamber.com/default.a...

-- Posted by Old guy on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 9:20 PM

First off- Happy Turkey Day to everyone :)

Question: The article concerning the Parade states that the parade kicks off on Friday, Decemeber 7th- yet, the 7th is a Wednesday??! So does anyone know whether it is going to happen on the 2nd or the 9th ??? I posted a question below the article, and had emailed the editor a couple days ago but have not received clarification from the paper yet. I did not see it on the MH News Calender either. There was a secondary comment posted beneath mine that said the parade was on the 2nd...can someone else confirm that??

Thanks for the help :)

-- Posted by Rocklady on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 7:59 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
They have seen the error and made corrections. Sorry for the confusion. The Parade is Friday, December 2nd at 7 p.m. There is an article in today's paper (11/23) with the route info. Have a Happy and Safe if traveling Thanksgiving.

Kwide, it sounds like your friends either 1) Had over 3 oz. of marijuana. 2) Had a small amount they were attemtping to sell. 3) Had other drugs besides marijuana on them. All of these are a felony, and rightfully should be, in Idaho and yes can put you in prison for several years. Sorry but the innocent, non-violent offenders portion of your story doesn't wash.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 10:00 AM

Kwide, Can you tell us where you are from? In Idaho we don't have "medical" marijuana. And possesion of a small personal use amount is a misdemeanor and usually gets probation for a first offense. Under no circumstance could you go to prison for a misdemeanor in the state of Idaho. So the cost to the county is negligible for a first offense conviction of possesion of less than 3oz of marijuana.

IMHO it is still illegal in Idaho to possess marijuana. Until someone pushes the issue and gets that changed, not only at the local level but at the federal level, you need to respect the law. As a lawful society we can't decide we don't like a law and just ignore it. What if I decide stop signs are stupid about the time your family crosses my path?

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 9:55 AM

Do the Crime, Do the Time! We all know the rules!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Tue, Nov 22, 2011, at 7:53 AM

Looks like the local school district has more money as there are a lot of lights on at West Elementary at 8 PM on a Monday.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Mon, Nov 21, 2011, at 8:33 PM

I am wanting public opinions concerning putting non-violent first time offenders for possession of medical marijuana in jail. Two young men, allegedly, in possession of marijuana are facing several years in prison. Neither have been in trouble before and work and pay taxes. Idaho now has 7,400 people behind bars. More than half of them are there due to drug-related offenses. The state has shipped about 500 people to other states because there's no more room in prisons in Idaho. The amount of tax dollars we spend to house inmates is way too much and I believe several years in prison for a first offence is too severe. What does the rest of the tax payers think?

-- Posted by kwide on Mon, Nov 21, 2011, at 6:18 PM

Get over it IdahoWantsWolves, you really need to find a hobby. Put all your free time to better use. Maybe the MH Giving tree could use some help!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Mon, Nov 21, 2011, at 10:03 AM

TODAY: Mountain Home Youth Center


Come out and support your LOCAL crafters and gt your Christmas shopping started (or finished) early---Avoid the holiday shopping nightmare in the retail stores...

Saturday November 19!

9a.m to 2p.m

At 130 North Main(across from Railroad Park)

Help spread the word please!!!

-- Posted by another resident on Sat, Nov 19, 2011, at 5:29 AM

A spokesperson for Saudi Arabia's Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), Sheikh Motlab al Nabet, said the committee had the right to stop women revealing "tempting" eyes in public.

Women in Saudi Arabia already have to cover their hair, and, in some regions, their faces while in public. If they do not, they face punishments including fines and public floggings.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/17/...

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 7:19 PM

So back to the subject of limiting fundraisers to grades lower than the high school. The school district imposed the limitation based on one post (that I could find on this blog) which identified a disgruntled citizen complaining about all the fundraising. Hacker just raised $10,000 for their spell-A-Thon. This does not sound like our community is all that concerned and are more than willing to support educational fundraisers. Let the kids enjoy being kids and participate in fundraising that goes back into their education.

One of the labels McMurtrey put on the fundraisers that are being allowed is "tradition". What constitutes this in his opinion to pick and choose what events fall under this generic umbrella? I guess educational fundraising is going by the wayside just as physical fitness and healthier lunch menus are expendable. When will the tyranny stop and education becomes a priority once again?

-- Posted by TANDN#3 on Thu, Nov 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM


Sadly, no, that is not the dog I have seen. I do hope this other dog is found as well.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Nov 16, 2011, at 9:01 AM

CuriousParents --------Is that the dog some people are looking for that has an ad in the paper, there a pic on the ad and phone number. 11/16/2011

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Nov 15, 2011, at 10:25 PM

does anyone know why there were other police agencies other than elmore county deputies pulling over so many cars the other day between mountain home and glenns ferry? owhyee county, elmore county and ISP were working hard from the 90 ext to the 95. I heard more were working farther east up the interstate. the scanner was going crazy for a few hours and my ride on the interstate from the 95 to the 90, I saw 7 cars pulled over. and only 2 of them were from elmore county cars.

-- Posted by mrl83 on Tue, Nov 15, 2011, at 8:57 PM

I have seen the dog. I live on 12th and hav been trying to caught her. She is very scared.I hav got her to where she will come in part way in my room to eat. She will take bones out of my hands but I tried to grab her and she is fast!! I am tring to get her. I think she is a dog someone just moved and left her. I want to keep her, if I can get her. Anyone have any ideas???

-- Posted by danecoat on Mon, Nov 14, 2011, at 8:06 PM

Anyone know how I could find someone to sweep my chimney in this town?

I called around a year ago to places like A-to-Z Lumber (shot in the dark) and couldn't find anyone. The only guy in the phonebook apparently can't be contacted with that information anymore. I've heard there's someone in town but I can't seem to find anyone to do it...

-- Posted by milktacular on Mon, Nov 14, 2011, at 10:31 AM

I guess you had to be a marine to carry pride from your service; so some would lead you to believe

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Nov 12, 2011, at 7:14 PM

If anyone has lost a Blue Healer (wearing a collar), there is one that has been sleeping in the yard of the empty house across the street from the Family dollar store on 14th East. I believe one of the hind legs is injured. I have called the Animal Shelter several times, but they have been unable to catch it.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Sat, Nov 12, 2011, at 3:33 PM

Since when is it okay for a faculty member to lay there hands on a student?

-- Posted by shadylakes on Sat, Nov 12, 2011, at 3:10 PM

While in Oregon recently saw a small newspaper item backpage- it said a younger male wolf had been tracked out of the Wallowas, across Lake County and into the Umpqua drainage area. This wolf had a tracking collar monitored by Fish and Game.

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Sat, Nov 12, 2011, at 2:43 PM

To each and every Veteran in and out of my life "Thank You" for the freedoms I enjoy and your sacrifices you and your families have made. God Bless.

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Fri, Nov 11, 2011, at 10:06 AM

I guess we will have to wait until next wednesday to hear about this. So for those of you who want to know now, here you go.


Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Updated today at 9:27 AM


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ELMORE COUNTY -- The Elmore County Sheriff's Office is looking for three people who did not return from a hunting trip Wednesday night.

The three left to hunt on horseback Saturday. They were heading towards Two Springs and Atlanta, Idaho. A family member told sheriff's deputies they were due back Wednesday night. They did leave with enough supplies to last one week.

The hunters were last seen driving two white Ford pick-up trucks, which have not yet been located.

Deputies say they do have a cell phone but they may not have service where they were supposed to be hunting.

The group consists of a husband, wife, and a family friend. Their names have not yet been released.

-- Posted by stopcorrupt87 on Thu, Nov 10, 2011, at 10:17 AM

Ha! Already on the MHN, I guess I wasn't reading as close as I thought I was.

-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Nov 9, 2011, at 3:22 PM

False alarm closes gate at the base for an hour:


-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Nov 9, 2011, at 3:21 PM

JD & Action hunter, we will never get the wolves down a manageable size/count. The size of the wolves imported in is not manageable in itself. Years ago, we eradicated them by means that will never again happen. Some of you know why. When a Bitch Wolf can have as many as 10 pups a year, ... how is that manageable? I dealt with the consequences of these truly magnificent animals all summer. Yes, I think they are magnificent. When you see one, or at least when I did, I was struck by it's beauty. Then I was struck by it's absolute disdain of myself ... though I was horseback. No fear in that guy. I'm sincerely glad I was horseback. We stood and looked at each other for a bit, ... I was almost a moth to the flame....

Anyway, it was folly to bring Canadian Wolves here, and whether people want them or not, everyone is paying ...one way or another.

While I'm blabbing, I'll put another couple 'cents' in. Some say they kill only for instinct, to feed. Untrue. They kill, cuz they kill. They kill to train their pups to kill, at times, they kill while wandering thru a herd of 800-1000# heifers ...all is calm and a young heifer kicks his heels up and starts to play with a nearby friend.... stirs up the blood lust of the wolf, and becomes dead. Ya know, similar to "Don't run from a dog, cuz then he'll chase and bite"? Kind of same thing... that's basically for "Sport" why not!

-- Posted by jessiemiller on Wed, Nov 9, 2011, at 8:21 AM

Yah I do, its because of the Idaho Fish and Game, and there so called managament slaughter, and you thats right.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Nov 8, 2011, at 9:41 PM

If they go back on the ESA it won't be because we hunted them...you know the reason why.

-- Posted by jdvann on Tue, Nov 8, 2011, at 8:42 PM

keep hunting u will put them right back on the ISA...now who's laughing

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Nov 8, 2011, at 7:23 PM

It's Election Day. Enough said!

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Nov 8, 2011, at 11:42 AM

Three Aussies arrested on suspicion of poaching elk in Elmore County

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/11/07...

-- Posted by maybeso on Mon, Nov 7, 2011, at 3:23 PM


great post, doing my best to make it 102.

-- Posted by Auctionhunter on Sat, Nov 5, 2011, at 3:31 PM

Wolf update from the IDFG page...101 down, 1000 more to go. Slowly taking back our state.

-- Posted by jdvann on Sat, Nov 5, 2011, at 2:37 PM

Perhaps I do suffer hypersensitivity for the subject. It has been talked to death. But thanks for the list of things that we already know and have heard over and over and over. Maybe 50 or 60 more times should do the trick.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 10:31 PM

The Base Layoff, why does that matter anyway, renember what some people, the city , mayor seators, are saying ,,,"The Saudi's will save Mtn Home, The Base and Idaho" so what does it matter about a few layoffs. THe Saudi's will save all of us.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM

uncommon sense,

I think you suffer hypersensitivity for the subject.

Who asked for "sympathy?" Who asked for "tribute?" Who claimed that you were "cold-hearted or selfish?"

Being, perhaps the lone voice for teachers on this thread, my support for education is based on the following personal observations:

1. The economy has nothing to do with the number of children who have to be educated each year. When someone loses employment, their kids don't disappear...they still need to go to school.

2. The Public, who pay taxes to support public education, have, as a majority, voted to not pay enough taxes to support what they have become accustomed to expect from their schools.

3. In order to support the same public, school districts have been forced to lay off people while simultaneously asking the remaining employees to pick up the slack...it's affectionatly called "we need to do more with less."

4. People who think they are not being paid what they are worth will relocate to a place where their skills and salaries are most beneficial to the public and the worker.

5. The market system is a good model for predicting the future of an economy...teachers are not public servants, they are public employees; and employer will never get more than what they are willing to pay for. As such, if they think they can do better elsewhere, they'll move on; just like the ones who were discharged due to budget cuts.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 7:17 PM

I must not have done a good enough job of driving my point home. The Mt Home News would rather report on a vehicle that was stuck on a concrete barrier, which they reported on the same day that it happened and TOTALLY ignore another event that will have a bigger impact on the community. What say you Mt Home News??? Why no special report of the announcement about layoffs at the base and instead report on a short term event like the semi driving onto concrete protectors. Bet you would have been all over the news had it been a military member breaking a law.

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Nov 4, 2011, at 5:42 PM

That is the exact point I was trying to make to you. You didn't mention plumbers, farm hands, ranch hands or any other profession at all. Only teachers. We get it. Teachers lost their jobs. I said that I feel bad for them and I do, the same as anyone else. The exact same. My irritation is with the fact that if we don't show EXTRA sympathy for them, more than we would anyone else, we're horrible people. Cold hearted and selfish. How dare someone mention layoffs on base without first paying tribute to the teachers. Not plumbers, ranch hands, ect. ONLY teachers.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 8:02 PM

uncommon sense,

Do you think a teacher who loses his/her job is any more/less affected by unemployment than a plumber/ranch hand/farm hand/ fry clerk or big shot CEO?

The airbase employee who loses employment because of budget cuts will stand in the same unemployment line as the calculus teacher who is no longer being employed by the State...how you FEEL about either professional worker's contribution to society doesn't mean crap to the bills either of them has to pay.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 7:00 PM

I have seriously had enough with hearing about the school district layoffs. Yes, I feel bad for them, but no more than ANYONE ELSE who loses a job. The education system is feeling what the whole rest of the country is feeling. WE ARE ALL GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING!!! Get over yourselves, you are no more important than anyone else. School dist. layoffs = OUTRAGE. Anyone else getting laid off = What about our teachers getting laid off? Are teachers an exclusive class of people? Anyone else who loses a job can't feed their families on the warm fuzzies they get from knowing not a single teacher lost a job in the great recession. Give it a rest already....

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 6:02 PM

Oh My!

Did anyone notice how many teacher (civilian) positions were lost last year in Mountain Home?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 5:37 PM

In case you missed it on some of the other news avenues, this one will more than likely not report it, the base announced a reduction of 34 CIVILIAN slots today. In fact I waited a day to see if the local paper would at least add it to the news feed but a tractor trailer getting stuck rated higher.


-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 4:53 PM

While I agree with the hazards of crossing Main and Jackson especially in hours of darkness and high traffice after school. The problem is not being ignored. The Cities Traffic Safety Board has been looking at this intersection along with others for improvements. Check the minutes here.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 2:58 PM

Agreed, that intersection is dark in the morning and kids wearing dark clothes cannot be seen. I actually almost hit one the other day in the cross walk. The lighting there is really poor. Lets do something before a tragic accident happens.

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 10:20 AM

MH Resident,

Are you serious? Why would a suicide be a news story.....when someone dies you dont see Brian Orban out there with his camerea do you? This person, no matter the circumstances, passed away and the family and friends do not deserve to see your disgusting post. Being someone who recently lost a very very close loved one to suicide I would personally like to have a few minutes alone with you! You are an insensitive jerk and I cannot even believe that comment has not been removeed from here.....

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Thu, Nov 3, 2011, at 8:17 AM

MHResident ...How rude..This young man has a family and many friends who love him...You should be ashamed.. To his family I am so sorry for your loss. He was a wonderful person .

-- Posted by gypsymom on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 11:25 PM

MHResident, could you be any more insensitive? I don't know if anyone did or did not do what you are talking about, however, if they did and their family is reading here, do you think they would like to read your comment the way you wrote it? Goodness, what is wrong with people these days?

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 6:38 PM

Would you get over yourself and the prejudice that is showing on this blog.

-- Posted by snafu on Wed, Nov 2, 2011, at 4:44 AM


-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 10:25 PM

Muslims Demand Prayer Rooms Without Crosses at US Catholic University-----HUM----now thats what we want in Mtn Home and the Base, Yah Right, We all neeed to stand together and protest the Saudi Royal Airforce from bedding down here.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 10:23 PM

Thanks for the info Victoria!

The thing I saw was cylinder shaped maybe.(from what I could see that high)There was no wind on Sunday, so I heard it rumble like a jet, barely audible though. And like MsM says, it was right above the horizon. But it LOOKED like it was traveling 17,000 mph.

-- Posted by clam chowder on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 11:08 AM

I went outside last night along with my husband and right on time we seen the space station, however that isn't what we seen back a month or so ago.

What we seen was huge and it was flying super fast and it was just above the horizon, not way up in the sky like the space station was........ It made no noise. Air Craft fly over our house almost every night but what we saw that night was not like any thing we had ever seen before.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 10:03 AM


Thank you and I am glad you were able to view it.

It orbits between an altitude of 173 and 286 miles above earth, and at a speed of 17,200 MPH.

And for those who missed it, check tonight at 8:28 PM.

-- Posted by victoria475 on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 9:41 AM

victoria475: Thanks for the ISS info. It came over my house right on schedule. Cool!

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 9:05 AM

The object might be the ISS (Internation Space Station.) It will be visible tonight over Mtn. Home at 7:49 PM. Not sure if that is what you are looking at, but if you check tonight at 7:49 and again at 9:25 PM you can make the comparison.

It will also be visible tomorrow night at 8:28 PM.

-- Posted by victoria475 on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 12:47 PM

Clam Chowder

I don't know what the heck it was, and I didn't think it looked like an Air Plane either. Another thing about it I never heard it. It was very quiet. Maybe that's why not many people have seen it because there's no noise to make you look up. You have to be looking up at the right time to see it...

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 9:47 AM

Ok, so now I have seen this "thing" going across the sky that a few people have brought up. Outside last night about 7 and there was a white thing trucking along pretty fast. Faster than a plane and definetly not shaped like one either, heading east/southeast. Any thoughts on what it is or does anyone know?

-- Posted by clam chowder on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 9:09 AM

Igottawhole lot of people readin my blog now im important

-- Posted by MrMister on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 12:19 AM

Eagle-Thanks for letting me know about the email and comment- I think the spam filter must have gotten them again.

The Church and State blog has been on the back burner for me for the last couple of months, but there is ample subject matter, aside from the local issue, for many posts to come. Right now, Boise State classes are the primary focus of my writing efforts, but I'll pick it back up again soon.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 10:00 PM

Geoff, got the message and replied, only you will know if you got it.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 9:37 PM

Councilman Schroedar, how many times have you responded to a question by someone on the Banter Box over City Hall, Did you call the Mayor and ask him and get an answer.

If you haven't read it yet take a look at my latest blog and see what I had to say about web sites and you know full well I have talked about it with the Council and the Mayor.

You started a blog over the Church bull then dropped it like a hot potato and haven't answered my e-mail or did any more updates to it. So don't be called the kettle black.

I will accept any and all comments on my blog entries and if I have an opinion or an answer I will state it.

Wolf hope you don't get to cold standing out their alone wanting a protest.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 8:49 PM

unite and protest the Saudi bassing here

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 8:25 PM

Some cities have a different take on Pink Flamingos:


-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 7:20 PM

Isn't having a golf course in your "just another exit along the interstate" town the equivalent of having a few plastic flamingos stuck in your front yard? I think it is...except, no town I know of ever supplemented the cost of the plastic flamingos.

If you want to play games, then pay for the playground and quit asking me to pay for your pleasure.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 6:55 PM


Thanks for the suggestions and/or ideas to increase the profitability of the golf course. There has been no talk I have heard that fits in the category of "new ideas". Yours are the first new ideas to come up. I can and will explore those ideas, if given the chance.

In two separate posts you have stated something along the lines that the politicians in this city have made huge mistakes in the past to put the golf course in the situation it is now. And you ask me to research these mistakes that are "on record". Please take what I'm going to say in a friendly manner. Is there a list of these mistakes? Come on, throw me a bone and point me in the right direction so I can get educated. Love to hear what you have to say about it.

You also asked me on the "kiss of death" blog "Why would you be against selling it [golf course] off to a private investor?". Back in July, I started looking into this possibility. I found a website that listed over 300 golf courses for sale in the US. In other words, there is a national glut of golf courses for sale. One of the primary figures in determining an asking price for "a business" is past revenues. As we know, the Desert Canyon Golf Course has never been profitable. In short, I don't believe a buyer could be found in the next few years. I'd rather see if our golf course can become profitable through better management and better marketing before having a fire sale. But bring in an investor with terms that would protect the City and our taxpayers and I'm sure the Mayor and Council would listen.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 6:18 PM


I didn't miss this that portion of his paragraph at all.

That comment is clear and simple to understand, so long as you aren't looking for hidden meanings or trying to skew it to fit your own agenda.

It says that Mr. Bondy believes that the actual golf course users need to take on the entire burden for the cost of RUNNING the golf course.

Taken in context with his next sentence "For obvious reasons, increased user fees will never cover the cost of paying off the bond." and then the 3rd sentence after that "The bond payment will continue to be paid for by the taxpayers.", it is very clear, is it not?

Has this discussion become a personal vendetta against Mr. Bondy? If so, I'll bow out now since I've neither come out for or against his platform.

-- Posted by lower_case_sensitive on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 10:52 AM


Are you purposely trying to skew the facts in order to make your points?

Here is the direct quote from the Bondy website that was linked by Councilman Schroeder.

"As your candidate for the Mountain Home City Council, I will push to make sure the golf course operating expenses are covered completely by the users. The bond payment will continue to be paid for by the taxpayers."

That says that Mr. Bondy wants the operating expenses of the golf course to be covered by the users. And it also says that he wants the taxpayers to continue to pay the bond payment of, if I recall what I read, about $200k per year.

I actually like your ideas for bringing in younger people to the course and though I don't know why the Couples Night was discontinued, it certainly sounds like a possible way for users of the golf course to bring in more revenues in order to offset the $20k that the course is currently running in the red.

My tax dollars have been paying for the bond that created the golf course, as well the deficit each fiscal year since the course has never run in the black.

At what point do you finally say "enough" and stop making the entire town pay for your rounds of golf? (and no, I am NOT talking about paying the bond. Most of us have accepted that we have no choice in that matter and must pay it out of our pockets)

Will the golf course be able to at least break even by the time the bond is paid in full? Or once we've paid the bond will the course still expect all Mountain Home taxpayers to shell out money to cover its budget?

Surely you can see the dilemma, right? You aren't demanding that we simply pay the bond out of our tax dollars each year, you are also demanding that we taxpayers defray your cost of playing a round of golf, year in and year out.

We, the taxpayers, don't see an end in sight and that's what is upsetting. At least that's what upsets me.

-- Posted by lower_case_sensitive on Sun, Oct 30, 2011, at 2:49 AM


Nowhere in my comments did I say what you attributed to me when you wrote that I think "...only the golfers should bear the burden of the golf course.". I have never once advocated that position. I have also been consistently opposed to rasing golf rates to the point they will have the detrimental effect you describe- driving golfers away. However, there is no valid hard empricial data as to what that 'too high' price is- neither you nor I know. What we do know is that the current revenue is not sufficient to cover costs, period. How much should continue to be borne by taxpayers is an open question worthy of debate and discussion.

Your school analogy fails. The Idaho Constitution declares the education of citizens vital to the functioning of our government and then mandates that education be paid by all taxpayers. Municipal Golf Courses come with no such constitutional mandate.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 9:52 PM

Buckshot...No sooner do I post a comment to you on the Mountain Home News "kiss of death" blog only to discover there is a debate raging here on the Banter Box.

I would like to ask if you could please post your plan to make the golf course profitable in the next 2 years. Some supporting data and Desert Canyon Golf Course demographics would be nice to see considering you think the national data is useless.

As far as your latest comment that I think "only the golfers should bear the burden of the golf course"???

My stand is: The 2011 balance sheet I received from City Hall indicates the golf course ran about $20,000 in the red. I ask only that the users take up the slack on this budget deficit. On the other hand, the entire taxpayer population of Mountain Home is fully and completely responsible for the yearly bond payment. In 2011, the Mountain Home taxpayer burden for the bond on the golf course was over $211,000.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 9:42 PM


I went to the Bondy website to read the "statistics" too.

Tim Bondy very clearly states that our course doesn't collect or maybe doesn't publish data and statistics, so he was using the National Statistics.

Not once did I read anything on his site that stated that OUR course has been flat for the past few years. If ours is thriving, as you suggest, then thank goodness we aren't trending the way the rest of the nation is, right?

It stills all comes back to the basic points though, which were very well stated by Councilman Schroeder and by Mr. Bondy. In short, the golf course has a $1.5 mil bond to pay off. That yearly payment does not come out of revenues generated by the golf course. In addition to that approximately $200k yearly payment, the golf course itself runs in the red by about $20 - $40k yearly.

I'm glad that you love the golf course and defend it and its users so well, but from a purely budget based standpoint, something needs to change in order to reduce the tax burden that each taxpayer pays per year for a golf course that they may or may not use.

I'm all for exploring every possible idea for reducing the debt and tax burden. So far the majority of the opinions I've read and heard in the last 2 months are that raising user fees might be a viable option to help defray costs.

If you have other ideas, why not add them here so we can all explore new directions?

-- Posted by lower_case_sensitive on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 5:00 PM


The references made to "taxing the golfers" are backwards- the city taxes all residents, many non-golfers (and golfers, too) to sustain the golf course. What is being discussed are the fees charged only to golfers for golfing- that is not "taxing the golf course"- it instead is asking those who derive benefit from the golf course to pick up a larger share of the cost of that benefit than they currently do.

I think Tim Bondy has a very clear and well articulated position on the Golf Course and the substantial subsidy it receives year after year. You can read it here:


-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sat, Oct 29, 2011, at 10:11 AM

- Buckshot61

Just caught your reply to Mike Ingram's letter.

The city has every right to tax my hobby, just as soon as they put up a $1,000,000 bond to build my dream kitchen facility in the center of town.

They can even up my user fees if it means I get to go bake 6 layer cakes in a shiny new facility with all the Alto-Shaam ovens, Vulcan ranges, and top of the line appliances I need to satisfy my baking hobby.

My point is that very few hobbies are funded by our town and our tax dollars. Golf is a big one, and it's been sucking money out of our pockets for every year that it's run in the red.

So what should the town do to remedy that? Since you don't want user fees to go up, do you have any other ideas?

-- Posted by lower_case_sensitive on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 5:42 PM

I keep reading all these comments about the planes from base and how much noise they make. I have to chuckle because I hear the guard helicopters practing on a weekly basis far more than I hear the jets from base. I love hearing the sound of both as this means freedom and safety to me. I do not mind the noise of either. God Bless the USA and protect those that protect us.

-- Posted by Old guy on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 9:48 AM

OMG ! I seen that thing in the sky but I seen it back in August. It was after dark and I had stepped out with the dogs. I just happened to look up at the sky. It was speeding very fast, faster then any air plane in the sky I had seen and much bigger. It traveled East to West. I yelled for my husband so he could see what I was looking at, he said it was going about moc 10 speed....... It was huge!!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 9:07 AM

Old Guy -

I too saw the shooting object the other day. It was soaring much faster than a plane would be and then just disappeared. I knew I wasn't seeing things, but was traveling alone and couldn't "confim" it with anyone.

-- Posted by mtnhomemama on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 8:37 AM

Well said, Eagle Eye!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Fri, Oct 28, 2011, at 7:26 AM


-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 7:06 PM

Oh WOW, I was out to the Base this morning. You won't believe those noisy F-15's where taking off and causing to much noise, guess that really upset the people living, working or visiting the Base. But one thing about it they were training so we enjoy our freedom, knowing they on the job doing that training. Heaven forbid if they fly over Mtn Home and bother wolf.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 3:11 PM

Unite and protest the Saudi basing here..

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 6:50 PM

Does anyone know when Trick or Treating and the Halloween carnival are scheduled? I know they've always been from 6-8 pm, but in past years when Halloween has fallen on a weekday, they've sometimes opted to hold it on a weekend instead. I just wanted to double check.

-- Posted by gcs on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 6:40 PM

Did anyone else see a shooting object over Mt Home Tuesday morning about 8AM or so? I saw it headed from West to East right over PFCU. I could not get the camera on my cellphone to work fast enough.

-- Posted by Old guy on Tue, Oct 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM

Imagine how many lives would be lost/wasted if nobody believed in an entity(God) greater than themself.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Tue, Oct 25, 2011, at 5:52 PM

Imagine how many life's would be saved world wide if everyone would stop killing in the name of their respective God.

-- Posted by Montague28 on Mon, Oct 24, 2011, at 1:01 PM

Nice post wolves, was first noted here last week, a direct quote from Al Jazeera. You really need to move into a cave in the hills.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sat, Oct 22, 2011, at 7:20 PM

Mountain Home is not outside Kabul

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Sat, Oct 22, 2011, at 2:05 PM

idahowantswolves, as a retired Air Force Air Traffic Controller, who by the way, was stationed at Mountain Home Air Force Base from 1975 to 1980, I wish to correct you in saying that the base has so much "training range out in the middle of know where with closed air space". With the exception of whenever the Saylor Creek Bombing Range is active, or the Paradise Military Operations Area (MOA) is active, NONE of Mountain Home's airspace is "closed". Restricted Areas, which is what the bombing range is covered by, is only "restricted" when it is active, when aircraft are practicing their bombing on the range. Same for the MOA's. Mountain Home's assigned airspace is never "closed" to anyone. Civilian and Military aircraft all use and transit this airspace. Landing at Mountain Home AFB IS restricted to Military or Government contracted aircraft only. Civilian aircraft have the Municipal Airport immediately southwest of town for their use. And unless the traffic patterns at the AFB have changed drastically since I was there, none of their planes should be any closer than 5 miles south of town. The RADAR pattern is south of the base. The Tower pattern is north of the base, but the aircraft stay within 5 miles of the base because that is the limit of the Tower's area of control. (And unless the base moved since I left, it should still be 10 miles from town).

To Signalman, no, they don't have to wait for their turn to land. The truth is, they are required to log so many landings/takeoffs, that they go around and around in the pattern.

Wolves, It is still all part of their training, and be thankful that it is actually a training base. I don't think you'd be complaining about the "noise" if your house was outside of the base in Kabul!

-- Posted by rainproof on Sat, Oct 22, 2011, at 1:07 PM

Mountain Home man killed when motorcycle leaves Highway 21


-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Oct 21, 2011, at 10:10 PM

I appreciate the noise generated by our airmen...it helps drown out the noise generated by squawking chickens, bellowing beeves, barking dogs and whining uber-conservatives.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Fri, Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 PM

The Base has not been here longer than Mountain Home, thats a fact.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 10:30 PM

I don't see where anyone said the base has been here longer than Mountain Home. It was said the base has been here longer than YOU, that is a FACT!

-- Posted by acomment on Fri, Oct 21, 2011, at 1:54 PM

@wolves----no I'm not deaf! I have just become accustomed to hearing jet noise! It's the sound of freedom and it doesn't bother me one bit! Sure would hate it if they had a viable terrorist target in a town/city and missed that target because they hadn't trained flying over towns/cities in order to pick out buildings, streets, etc.

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Fri, Oct 21, 2011, at 6:54 AM

The Base has not been here longer than Mountain Home, thats a fact.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 10:30 PM

signalman:::::::::Its called typing errors, stop being so rude, Its my right to post on here if I choose, just like yours. GO FLY A KITE!!!!

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 10:20 PM

To idahowantswolves. First off, don't show your lack of education by submitting comments with such a large amount of spelling and grammar errors. Second, part of the reason the Air Force (Notice the use of capital letters?) flies in circles over the base/town is because, just like at an airport, aircraft have to wait their turn to land. There are many other reasons for delayed landings as well but, to be honest, you just need to deal with it or move away from the base. The base has been here longer than you.

-- Posted by signalman on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 9:04 PM


Well that explains it all! First you complain about the base expanding by adding other squadrons, now about jet noise. But now I understand since you have been around Mtn Home for 4 decades. maybe you would rather the house and carriage return. Like it or not technology is here to stay. And the cost of Freedom may be a little noisy at times, but better than the alternative! We respect your age! And we Love the US Air Force adn all they do for us.

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 1:01 PM

USAF jet noise is the sound of FREEDOM, enjoy it while you still can.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Oct 20, 2011, at 8:42 AM

Maybe you didn't see how rude you came across in your little rant about the ONE DAY of jet noise we had. I can't imagine how you'll react if it happens again tomorrow. It's rare to have alot of noise here, so maybe you'll be kind enough to cut the soldiers some slack. And I'm genuinely sorry if you're ill and have a hard time seeing, but you obviously see and feel well enough to come here and complain so forgive me if I don't feel bad. I didn't know that being ill was an excuse to be rude and everyone else has to be nothing but nice to you. Or maybe I just hate sick people. That must be it.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 11:39 PM

uncommon sense ::::: now thats american......maybe its my typeing skills, maybe im ill and cant see, maybe ur just rude, is that plain english enough for you.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 10:17 PM

There was a severe misprint in the Mountain Home News concerning the spaghetti feed at the Elks Lodge this Friday night. You do NOT need to be an Elk or know an Elk to attend. It is open to the public. The spaghetti feed is this Friday night (October 21st) from 5 pm to 8 pm and the cost is $6 per person.

-- Posted by netters on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 10:13 PM

Judging by your grammar and spelling skills, I'm surprised you've been on the planet for 4+ decades.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 8:10 PM

the point is not being proud of the airforce, they are good, the piont is they have all a huge training range out in the middle of know where with closed air space ,,, its called trainning area, therrs no need to fly in circle's over mountain home, that why they wanted to expand their air space. it has nothing to due with the service or being proud of them. i have been here for over 4+ decades, born here, proud to be here, its the lac of coomon sence.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 7:27 PM

God bless the USAF!

-- Posted by jdvann on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 7:19 PM


As you sit and complain about the "noise" of the aircraft overhead, why don't you thank them everyday for allowing you the freedom of speech! It would seem to be a small "inconvenience" for you to have to "put up with the noise". I very rarely hear the jets flying above and have lived on bases throughout the world to which a phone conversation was interrupted by the flying...but that is ok. I love it and I miss it! Move if you don't like it! Most others are grateful to know that they are here!

I am and forever more, a PROUD AIRFORCE SPOUSE!

-- Posted by OldEnough2Know on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 6:41 PM


Move your sorry backside out of here if you don't like it. Airbase was "probably" here before you, I would think. If you don't like planes then don't move where there are any. Don't move into an area that has something that 'you' don't like and then complain about it. Don't let the door outa here hit you where the sun don't shine.BYE BYE.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 4:14 PM

Nomad4 ....you must be deaf then, plus thats not the piont, thats why they have thier tranning range that comes with closed airspace for "TRAINNING" DUAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 3:54 PM

CJW- There were good parts of Luna's plan, and certainly that provision was one of them. But the majority of the plan's mandates had negative effects.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 3:49 PM

@idahowantswolves---you live within 10 miles of an AF Base--duh! They are training!!! I didn't even realize they were flying above town until I read your comment!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 3:08 PM

why does the airforce find it nessacery to fly there jets in cicles over town all day today. with all the airspace they have closed off south of the base, northern nevada and eastern oregon. Dosent make much sence. And we really want more planes here, dont think so. Let them base the saudis planse somewhere else. Mountain Home does not want the noise, I sure dont and others sure dont, say no.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Wed, Oct 19, 2011, at 2:56 PM

Geoff: Why shouldn't idahowantswolves try calling the Streets Division @ 587-2109 to get the answer for his/her question?

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 12:07 PM

idahowantswolves...6:30 PM, tonight at the Elks Lodge.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 12:02 PM

Councilman - what good would it do to call him, tried that a couple of times---same response its what the the 4 fourfarthers of this town wants they get, average people get the shaft.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 11:31 AM

wolves- What did the mayor say when you called to ask him about it?

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 8:23 AM

I'm going to have to agree with Roy on this one. Boycot Albertson's. I rarely shop there any way, they're expensive. However, America needs to start putting Americans first for a change. Stop sending jobs to other places to boost their economy and send ours down the toilet. I say don't shop there at all until they wise up and start doing things the right way. The only downfall would be the jobs people might lose if business falls off. It's a dilemma. How else do we send a message to the businesses here that we are tired of them sending jobs to other places?

As for spelling and such, anyone who cares isn't worth worrying about. The message is important and as long as it comes across the right way, no one should complain.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Tue, Oct 18, 2011, at 7:24 AM

why does the mountain home city street dept use tax payer time and money to sweep and gravel a private bussiness's driveway

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Mon, Oct 17, 2011, at 11:19 PM

Oh ya, before I forget; just a little friendly note: Please don't start fires and then complain about the size of the flames.

-- Posted by MrMister on Mon, Oct 17, 2011, at 9:48 PM

Can't decide between fox business news and the cartoon network. Oh well, same difference.

-- Posted by MrMister on Mon, Oct 17, 2011, at 9:14 PM

Got a great phone call last night from the online editor of the Tiger Tribune. The school paper took Best of Show AGAIN this year, and the 2010-2011 yearbook snagged Best of Show AGAIN. Great job everyone!! I'm so proud to say I graduated from MHHS!

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sun, Oct 16, 2011, at 4:27 PM

I want wolves too..just bought my 1st Wolf tag.

-- Posted by jdvann on Sat, Oct 15, 2011, at 4:36 PM

Oh homeboy, it's not about who you talk to and what you say. Rather, it's about you continually claiming you won't respond to someone anymore and then responding to them. Keep your word man!

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Oct 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM

Family of Boise woman who died in fire seeking good home for her two dogs

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/14...

-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Oct 14, 2011, at 8:01 PM

AMAZING!!!! I try to "Buy locally", I practice buying locally for my job, and I recommend for everyone to buy locally. Today Albertson's announced they were be "outsourcing", taking jobs from "locally" to somewhere else. I think we should not shop in their store 1 day a week for a couple days, or even 2 days in a row to show them that they need us more than we need them. They do this and then when they have to shut down they can blame Wal-mart, all along brining it on themselves. OK Grammar and spelling police have at this. Just my thoughts for the day.

-- Posted by Roy "Lynn" McCallum on Fri, Oct 14, 2011, at 6:37 PM

The AlJazeera.net article quotes a couple of local bloggers. Thought they might be interested.

-- Posted by DaveThompson on Wed, Oct 12, 2011, at 7:02 PM


-- Posted by DaveThompson on Wed, Oct 12, 2011, at 11:54 AM

Want wolves, are you serious with your thoughts. Be real, they will bring in their own contruction workers! Maybe Mountain Home should bring in business instead of the AFB doing it. And bringing an end to the way we live! You aer probably watching "RED DAWN" as we speak!

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Wed, Oct 12, 2011, at 9:32 AM

It is so sad that we show such prejudice in this day and age. How do you know they want to have anything to do with you anyhow? Grow up!

-- Posted by snafu on Wed, Oct 12, 2011, at 5:02 AM

If it goes like the Sings arrival, the town will get little to nothing. Not that the Sings didnt want to spend money, they just didnt want to be taking advantage of. The initial arrival of Sings spent money here in MH, but soon realized the customer service and quality was not to par with what was offered in Boise, so the main wave took their business to Boise. This went from car purchases to housing, which is sad, because MH does have a lot to offer, but service and quality will always dictate business. That being said the Saudis will follow suit, so MH really doesnt have anything to worry about.. right.

-- Posted by scoutin on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 11:59 PM


What a name!!!!!!

With that name I won't even begin to try figure out anything he/she has to add to any further comments. I would almost bet he/she came from a southwest USA state.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM

the saudis being here will not bring anymoney to this town, there brining there own constuction workers, 300 400 of them, they will have there own stuff on base, all they will bring to this town is trouble and the end of they way we r

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 3:12 PM


-- Posted by roosterz on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 1:33 PM

Any one else upset about the Saudis making there way here?

-- Posted by shockwave on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 12:39 PM

WantsWolves--as the saying goes-America will not be taken from without but from within. The mindset of Americans like that of Yankezz will just open the door and let them in without ever giving thought to the repercussions, all for the sake of money. Here's a thought--instead of relying on the military to bring in foreigners to boost the MH economy maybe city officials could lobby American businesses to come and set up here!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 10:56 AM

Get over it WantsWolves. This will provide more income to our small, hurting town. Look around at the businesses closing, empty houses all over, etc... Whether they are English, German, Saudis, Singapore, more people in this town supporting our economy is a good thing. Means more jobs and houses sold/rented. If the military can get over the gay ban, you need to get with the times and get over the prejudice against people.

-- Posted by Yankeezz on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 9:15 AM

Who else is upset about the saudi baseing here, who would like to set up a protest on airbase rd and highway 51 to show our suport against it.

-- Posted by idahowantswolves on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 10:49 PM

BTW, for those who voted in this weeks poll and said they would go back to using cash - if you do it right - you would probably save money and have less debt if you went on a cash basis. I have heard people are doing the cash basis and not only saving money, but paying off debt also.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, Oct 8, 2011, at 10:21 AM

JustMeAgain, go talk to the News staff I am sure if they have it, they can fix you up, I have done it in the past.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Fri, Oct 7, 2011, at 8:30 PM

Does anyone know if and how a person can purchase back issues of the Mountain Home News?

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Fri, Oct 7, 2011, at 5:47 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
Depends on how far back. We keep copies for 1 year until all sold.

There was no credit on my water bill either.

-- Posted by netters on Thu, Oct 6, 2011, at 11:48 AM

We TY did not use same amount of water this year as we did last year....patting ourselves on the back. But we had a leak last year. To us it is all comes out in the wash.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, Oct 5, 2011, at 7:43 PM

Opened water bill today. We received a $3.86 credit Bill was still more than $20 over last month's and we used about the same amount of water. Guess I can go buy a treat off the $1 menu at McDonald's now. LOL

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Oct 5, 2011, at 3:39 PM

Well thank you for that information. Looking forward to next month's bill.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Oct 5, 2011, at 7:31 AM

No credit on my water bill.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Oct 4, 2011, at 8:34 PM

I got my water bill today and there was a credit for a little over $10. I have a notebook I use to keep a record of all our bills and that makes it just about what it was last August.

-- Posted by acomment on Tue, Oct 4, 2011, at 6:02 PM

Ah come on now councilman, Call City Hall and look for an answer to a question. Can't do that somebody may answer the phone and tell me the answer.

Its so easy to post here and see how many others want to comlain also, guess to many have forgot we live in an age, with phones(land Line) cell phones, computers that can do e-mail to City Hall.

Heaven for bid not just to post here instead of asking the right people the question.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Oct 4, 2011, at 5:34 PM

We approved the credit at the last city council meeting. What did city hall say when you called to ask about it?

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Tue, Oct 4, 2011, at 4:19 PM

Just received the new water bill. I guess we aren't getting that credit they "were considering" to give after all.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, Oct 4, 2011, at 11:33 AM

Just wanted everyone to know I went back to the business in question and was treated fair and square. Thank you everyone for your helpful comments and support.

Nick Szafranski

-- Posted by nickski007 on Fri, Sep 30, 2011, at 6:27 PM

Thank you Beau. Glad to see you back safely.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Sep 28, 2011, at 5:31 PM

WB Beau, didn't know you were gone, just hadn't seen you post anything and was wondering what happened.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Sep 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM

THANKS for keeping us safe and free Beau!!!!!

-- Posted by Ontherocks on Wed, Sep 28, 2011, at 8:02 AM

It's soooooo good to be home.

-- Posted by Beau on Wed, Sep 28, 2011, at 1:38 AM

I think this is an interesting article. At least the writer does give numerical facts in his article regarding congressional voting. Interesting, I think.


-- Posted by midea on Mon, Sep 26, 2011, at 11:23 AM


I tutor "at risk" kids in their efforts to get their GEDs. I have used Khan Academy on many occasions and find it to be tremendously helpful. Bill Gates brought the site to being for all to use free of charge. It is a tremendous tool for those who need help with math or science.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Sun, Sep 25, 2011, at 10:21 AM

Just something that might interest some parents and teachers. I saw this on TV, have read about it in the past, and have played around with some of the program on the internet. I think this guy has a good program - in my opinion. Check out the Khan Academy. Type the name into the search engine in your browser and play around with his math program (he has other courses also. Kind of makes it enjoyable. It is all free, so have fun, enjoy, and check out learning online.

If anything, the site could be a great reference to use when a student is stuck on homework problem and mom/dad can't figure it out either.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, Sep 24, 2011, at 2:14 PM

Full synthetic oil change just cost me $37 @Thrifty in town. Shop around before you buy.

-- Posted by jdvann on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 10:30 PM

Dear Joe,

Thank you For your response and I am going to take it up with the business on monday.

-- Posted by nickski007 on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 9:38 PM


Maybe you should try being on the buisness end of the deal. If the purchase price goes up for the buisness it gets passed on to the customer. If you have an issue with what you paid maybe you should go to that buisness and confront them, not extend it to the world. Does not matter to me what you do. I just think that if you are a local buisness kind of buyer you would give that buisness a chance to defend themselves.

If you go back to that same OReilly's and ask they will tell you. There are 3 different price ranges. Cosumer off the street, retail for buisnesses and the mark up for buisnesses. Sounds fair to me.

Also I would not try to take your own product you bought and ask any shop to install. Would you buy a steak and take it to Outback and ask them to cook it? Not likley. This is how buisnesses make profit, called mark up. May be extreme in your case, not sure.

Good luck with whatever you decide. I for one will continue to give them my buisness, they are more than fair and equitable across the board.

-- Posted by joe_smoe on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 9:01 PM

InTheRough and mhg4316.....

Before you are so quick to judge mine, make sure your front porch is swept clean first. You don't know all the specifics of the frustrations that led up to my outburst, and it had nothing to do with playing time or playing any certain position. No, it wasn't the proper way to handle the situation and I admit that. Sure am glad that neither one of you have ever said or done something spontaneous and regretted it later. Glass houses.........well I'm sure you know the saying. As I stated before, I have watched, listened and supported every girl on that team for the past 4 years. I don't think I'm a bad sports parent at all, and I'm sure that people that really know me don't think so either - just one that was extremely frustrated from past and present incidents and one in particular that night that broke the camel's back, and I am accepting my consequences. I teach my daughter that everything you say or do has consequences, be they good or bad. But hey, everybody's got an opinion (I'm sure you know how that saying goes, as well)and you are certainly entitled to yours, even without all the facts. Just because someone has the title of "coach" does not give them free reign to mentally and emotionally beat our kids down without building them back up somehow. I don't emotionally beat my kid down and I will no longer let anyone else do it, either. When she's grown and on her own is a totally different story. Yes, they have to make mistakes and live and learn from them. We continue to learn from them everyday........unless one is perfect........but I have yet to meet that perfect person on this earth. If you know one, please let me know because I would be honored to meet them.

Rebecca Templeman....MOM

-- Posted by roosterz on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 8:10 PM

Now I gotta drive by.....

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 4:35 PM

Gripe Friday: What does the sign say on the old Salvation Army now church building?

Did I do something that I need to be punished for?

I am a Taxpaying citizen of Mountain Home and will be making a generous donation to a church I do not attend or would probably ever be invited to.

But I do not appreciate being reprimanded every time I drive by

-- Posted by IdahoDuck on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 4:19 PM

Have you read the Idaho Statesman today? Interesting article "Luna at White House for Obama Announcement".

Here is an excerpt for the article "..states like Idaho, Montana and South Dakota said earlier this year that they were fed up and made plans to reject the latest requirements for determining school progress under the law (No Child Left Behind) - even if the move toward noncompliance might put them at risk of losing some federal funding."

The Idaho State Board of Education approved the plan to reject the latest requirements. I guess Idaho can defy Federal Laws and by doing so further reduce our education funding. Are you kidding me!

So by that token I guess we can all just follow whatever laws we want and forget the rest, right?

Well I am fed up with Luna. We do not need additional cuts in education funding. Yes educators are frustrated with No Child Left Behind and we as a profession would like to see changes in this legislation as well.

But wait, didn't our legislature just pass education reform bills where educators and administrators from the Education Profession, came out in great numbers to address the Legislature with testimony against the reform bills and made recommendations on reform that was founded in actual research and based on models that work. But instead what we got was a legislature that passed these education reforms based on failed model and ignored the input of educators and administrators of how we could reform education that would actually work!

But we have such a uniquely qualified Superintendent of Public Instruction who holds an 18 month online degree in weights and measures who is running our schools.

Idaho has some of the highest requirements for obtaining a teaching credential in the nation, and yet we are at the bottom ranks in student achivement. Clearly it is not because our teachers are unqualified or that we have so many "bad" teachers.

And yet we wonder why Idaho is at the race to the bottom in education. I contend that it is our state administration and legislation that is unqualified.

-- Posted by pchiarella on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 1:00 PM


You should be ashamed of yourself honestly..Im sure your daughter was mortified at the entire situation. In sports, just like in life, kids learn that theres always someone better and no matter how hard you try and effort you put in, sometimes you dont always get to play. Its a competition and no matter what way you say it, it is always about winning. The kids learn alot of valuable lessons from participating in sports that can be carried into their adulthood. So when shes on her own and working hard trying to get that promotion and its given to someone else are you going to march your butt into the boss' office and yell at them too??? Grow up and let your child figure it all out rather than humiliating her because no doubt that you did...You only hurt the situation. My son plays lots of sports and while he pours his heart and energy into being the best he can be, he doesnt always get to play where he wants...but I would NEVER interfere in that. These coaches spend hours and hours with our kids and deserve a big thank you for all they do. You need to learn to control yourself. You are teaching your daughter nothing from this, except for how NOT to behave.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 10:42 AM

Roosterz - 2 entries that both deserve a comment

Your American Job entry - Did you notice that the person only owned overseas items? If someone expects to get an AMERICAN job, support the system and BUY AMERICAN. If you don't buy it, then don't complain when there aren't any jobs.

MOM Entry - Screaming at a coach and AD in front of the Public draws unwanted attention to your DRAMA. Your message might be better received if you have a group with the same concerrns, instead of SCREAMING it in a public domain. If you used the same tone as in your posting as you did in public, I can see why you are a bad example of a sports parent. Get it together, and be an adult. No one wants to hear the message when it's being screamed. You are an adult, act like one.

-- Posted by InTheRough on Fri, Sep 23, 2011, at 10:16 AM

And while I'm "sharing" today, why is it we are so afraid to stand up for our country, ourselves or our children??? If we don't make a change in our perspectives and priorities, we may all be at the bottom of the world food chain, so to speak, one day. Got this in my email today....

John Smith started the day early having set his alarmclock (MADE IN JAPAN)for 6 am ..

While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG).

He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE)and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA).

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could spend today.

After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) filled it with gas (FROM SAUDI ARABIA)

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer (MADE IN MALAYSIA), John decided to relax for a while.

He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL), poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE ) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job



-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Sep 21, 2011, at 10:37 AM

tiger87, whoever you are....Do you have a child on this coach's team and repeatedly watched her over several years constantly yell at them on and off the court??... Providing very little, if any, positive feedback or reinforcement??... Had parents from other teams ask you "What is wrong with your coach??"... Tried in the past to diplomatically meet with the coach and talk to the AD to only have your child sit on the bench the rest of the season for expressing concerns, and have the AD totally wash his hands of these concerns??... Have a coach that plays favorites to two players on the team who obviously don't want to be team players because they knock down their own team members just to get their hands on the ball because all their parents care about are the stats??... Had other teams' parents ask who these two girls are that constantly barrel down their teammates??... Had your child yelled at and pulled by this coach when she busts her behind to get a ball that someone else shanked when they cut her off, but nothing said to the other girl, usually on the the favorites?? Have you had a child in this situation who once loved a game so much and is good at what she does, now feel like she can't do anything right to please this coach, and that her self-esteem playing in this sport is so low that you cannot, no matter what you do or say, bring her back up?? Well I have!!! These kids play because they love the sport. These coaches should be positive, helping these girls. I've sat and watched for the fourth year, girls that are so afraid of making mistakes and standing up for themselves because of the repercussions of being yelled at, running and harder conditioning during practices after they lose a game or not getting to play at all. Did ya ever stop and wonder why Mtn Home Volleyball has been at the bottom of the food chain in conference for the past 3 years?? We, as volleyball parents have to sign a contract at the beginning of the season that we will be positive for our girls. Why is it that coaches don't have to live up to the same expectations?? Why is it that these coaches seem to have free reign to beat our kids down while we just have to sit and watch for fear of retribution on our kids, and try our darndest to pick them back up?? I agree it was a great game and it is sad that all the years frustrations came out to play the way they did, and I am especially sad that I embarrassed my daughter the way I did and that is for me and her to work out, but I will in no way apologize to you or anyone else for saying what many have expressed. Guess i just have bigger cahunas than some. And you bet your patutti I was wearing a Mtn Home Tiger shirt, because I have sat and supported and cheered for every girl on that team for the past 4 years, regardless of how they were doing or who they were, as I sat and watched some other parents only cheer for their girls. My child has done her best and busted her butt for this coach for 4 years, just to sit and get her position stripped when she makes no more mistakes than anyone else on that team!! Heck no! I had totally had it!! Enough is enough!!

Rebecca Templeman....aka MOM

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Sep 21, 2011, at 9:35 AM

Anyone know if Windjammer Cable will be airing the BSU game this Saturday, the 24th? If so, which channel? I certainly hope they are!!!!!!!

-- Posted by jdcb on Tue, Sep 20, 2011, at 10:23 PM

Its been a while, so how about an update on the possible Saudi squadron coming to Mountain Home? Anybody else notice the stunning silence? There was an article in the base newspaper back in June that basically said that the Saudis had to agree to the terms of the contract by the end of June, or else the entire weapons buy would have to be renegotiated. That was over two and a half months ago and we've had no notice that the Saudis have agreed to anything, nor has there been any mention of the weapons buy going back into renegotiation. I'd have thought that with the size of the contract we would have heard something either way. My guess is that the Saudis haven't tired of watching our government do back flips for them. Since it appears our elected officials would rather appease than hold someone to a contract how do you think us little folks will fare if/when this thing goes through? Some on base still consider them coming here a sure thing. Have they asked for any input? Have there been any scoping meetings or even an ability to provide comments? Not so much. I hear there's a Saudi delegation coming to town this week, yet that isn't exactly being advertised anywhere. My original predictions remain. We are going to get railroaded on this, and its not going to be a good deal for Mountain Home.

-- Posted by Northside on Tue, Sep 20, 2011, at 9:32 PM

I just got home from watching a great volleyball match at the high school. The Tigers won in a very close match. However, I was taken aback when one of Mountain Home's "fans", complete with an orange shirt with Mountain Home across the front, came down onto the court after the Tigers WON and began screaming at Mountain Home's coaches. When the Athletic Director intervened, she started yelling at him. She continued to yell at him until he tried to escort her out of the building. She returned and started arguing with some of the parents who were there supporting their daughters, at which point they asked the AD to get her out again. She was also throwing this fit in front of the entire team and coaching staff from Columbia High School. I was completely embarrassed by her behavior.

It is really sad when someone does that... especially when she is supposedly there in support of the WINNING team.

-- Posted by questionposer on Tue, Sep 20, 2011, at 9:17 PM

The school district states the reason for the fundraiser decision as being to relieve the unemployed parents of the responsibility to participate for their family's sake, then you have business complaining, then community members...which is it? Is our community that disconnected.

Many fundraisers bring elementary children to places [field trips] like local banks, town libraries, the town museum, Bruneau Dunes and the observatory, Hagerman Fossil beds, the Discovery Center, etc. As a reminder, these are all directly linked to education with no money out of the district pocket. I for one am supportive of elementary school finding a way to fund themselves...the district can't do it.

I have a high school child who pays for each individual sport, cheerleading uniforms, spirit packs, parking passes, and the majority of classes to include Physical Education. The district gets money from each student [parents] through the schools daily operation to include sports...why do they need even more fundraisers?

In these times of district/education budget cuts, many elementary schools RELY on these fundraisers to supplement for what they [the district] will not provide.

If anyone is putting a strain on the unemployed parents it's the district and their policy to single out one school in the district to succeed and let the others falter due to a lack of district support and positive community representation. Why do we need 2 school superintendents anyway? Is it true that there was a position made just for the superintendent's wife? Other school district are encouraging schools to fend for themselves because of the budget cuts...not ours!!

I don't understand. Looking for a clearer picture of the truth.

-- Posted by TANDN#3 on Mon, Sep 19, 2011, at 3:34 PM

I graduated this year...As I said. Not once.

And what I'm saying is that people are very quick to blame the high school for the district's issues.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sun, Sep 18, 2011, at 8:10 PM

since you have graduated and dont live here anymore, things change. I dont hate the HS just stating facts.

-- Posted by snafu on Sun, Sep 18, 2011, at 6:12 PM

In my years as a student of MHHS, we never had a school specific fundraiser, so I don't know where you're getting all this hate for the HS getting "as many as they want".

There are several clubs at MHHS that do not use school (aka taxpayer) funds to operate. Debate, student council, any theater program, gsa, bible club, spirit club, etc.

Each club can and usually does fundraisers throughout the year so that they can continue to offer those opportunities.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sat, Sep 17, 2011, at 12:17 PM

I wasn't talking about kids coming and asking for sponsors for a spellathon. I was under the impression the kids were just asking for money. Asking for sponsors and "Hey, can we have some cash?" are two different things. I thought she was talking about the second.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Sat, Sep 17, 2011, at 9:51 AM

Right now Hacker is having their one and only fundraiser. It is the spell a thon. The kids are asking for donations. So what if they are not the greatest sales people. The money is probably going toward those things. so donate a couple bucks. If you dont know, all the elementary schools are only allowed one fundraiser this year. The high school gets all they want. Dont look for book fairs at the lower levels cause that is a fundraiser.

-- Posted by snafu on Sat, Sep 17, 2011, at 6:43 AM

Sounds like a couple of little scammers trying to get some money for themselves... I hope you didn't give them anything.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Fri, Sep 16, 2011, at 10:07 PM

They asking for Cash..

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Fri, Sep 16, 2011, at 11:20 AM

Are they selling things or just asking for cash on the spot?

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Thu, Sep 15, 2011, at 10:08 PM

Ok it is September 15th... 3 days in a row after school we have kids from ages of 10 to 12 ring our door bell asking for money for books..ex..math books..what ever you can donated. What the heck? My kids never went from door to door begging to have books. We are paying our taxes!

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, Sep 15, 2011, at 9:58 PM

Nice to see McKenna school is once again saving the school some money while teaching - all at the same time. Teaching students a new trade, and providing the school with something it needs. Good job McKenna. Awesome job to the students.

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Sep 15, 2011, at 7:09 PM

cantjustwatch, I have to agree with you and echo what you said. At times, I laugh at how things are reported, take the last paragraph of the story about Anne's drowning. Really? A Vodka bottle was found at the scene and no one claimed it? I wonder who does the proof reading of these stories. Why is it necessary to print charges after her death? They mean nothing, it means nothing. She's dead!

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Wed, Sep 14, 2011, at 1:55 PM

I have lived here for over 19 years, and occasionally comment on this banter box. I am in no one's "inner circle" in this town, and happily so; and I'm pretty certain that I don't personally know any of the folks that do comment on here, or the Mtn. Home News staff. Referring to "justcantwatch" questions regarding not being able to comment on high-profile cases on this site vs. Kelly's editorial comment about "complaints" regarding same issue - I have read both and in no way interpreted "justcantwatch" comments to be a complaint. Not sure why Mr. Everitt decided it was a complaint. Seemed a little agressive and targeted on his part to publicize it as such. I'm certain a simple explanation would have sufficed. Bad day, maybe? Personality conflict? Small town, who knows?? Think just a plain 'ole explanation would have sufficed from Mr. Everitt.

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Sep 14, 2011, at 1:17 PM

I did a lot of stupid things when I was younger, still do sometimes. I am sure my father was not proud of me, but I thank God he still loved me and never gave up on me.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 2:12 PM

Not sure about why you can comment directly on some articles and not on others. When they are not enabled on an article the comments end up in the BB on the front page instead of a linked article.

-- Posted by VicVega on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 12:49 PM

I was at the parade Saturday and was a little disapointed at what appeared to be a couple of military guys (from their hair cuts and other observations) that totally need to go back to school and learn proper respect for the flag.

As the parade started and MOST everyone stood in respect, to include the lady near me in a WHEELCHAIR. I watched as these two sat in their chairs talking as though the flag means nothing and they could have cared less.

These where not some teenagers that you might think maybe they don't know but two guys around 30 years old that should know the proper respect. Maybe the 80 year old lady that stood up from her wheelchair could teach them something.

The DISRESPECT was sad to say the least.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 8:50 AM

I attended the parade on Saturday and was so disappointed at the conduct of people when the flag passed by. The parade is to show have much we appreciate the base. My question is how come people show no respectfor our flag. We still have the greatest flag and country,in the world and it seems to me we should give the flag the repect that it deserves.

-- Posted by nanaidaho on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 6:23 AM

Be sure your volume is turned on for this.

NEVER Forget!!!


-- Posted by roosterz on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 5:33 PM


Very Small world in deed !! I will be sure to drop you and firecat a line when I land in your neck of the woods again!

:) Dawn

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 2:34 PM

You have no clue how bad its gotten Mnthomeless. Im spending time with my children each day ensuring they are getting "educated" properly, once I found out how bad the education system has gotten. And they have realized after a month or two of this, how bad its gotten. I foresee in a generation or two, it will be simple to take away civil liberties, since most people wont know what they are giving up or lost. Sad, truly sad, but Rome fell right???

-- Posted by scoutin on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 9:08 AM

WOW!!! So while I was picking up all the dollar bills and candy being thrown from the parade floats something caught my eye. As the patriotic float drove by declaring the support for the military vets, painted on the side was a phrase that honestly kinda made me laugh. Support ARE veterans. Really Mountain Home!!! So just a heads up people who made the float the phrase is support OUR veterans it's a little sad nobody caught that one. Im not sure we can blame the education system for that can we. Either way made me laugh just a little.

As always spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 7:32 AM


I live in Norman now! What a small world we live in!

I've been keeping up with the conversation. I'm so sorry you were treated that way. :/

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sat, Sep 10, 2011, at 6:12 PM


Perhaps I will do just that since I have some family in Norman, Oklahoma. I appreciate the dialect and wish you well ~ Dawn

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sat, Sep 10, 2011, at 9:02 AM


Thank you for your honesty and response to my letter.I am so greatful that we live in a country where we can state our feelings and opinions openly. I am sorry for the loss of your father even though it has been 11 years, as the death of a loved one is always hard. If you ever make it to Slapout, Oklahoma ( it is in the panhandle) please look me up and I will buy you a soda. Best of luck to you in all you do. Cathy

-- Posted by firecat on Sat, Sep 10, 2011, at 8:19 AM


I too love my father immensely. I have missed him everyday for the last 11 years that he has been gone. He helped polish my moral code and gave me a lifetime of guidance. I understand your point, and I do not doubt that your father is a wonderful father to you. With that said, please know that my response is honestly how I feel, and that I have a lot of respect for the effort to keep your father's reputation in tact. I would do the same if it was my own father....but family ties aside, my letter to you is truley how I feel about the situation. This is my last discussion on the matter and the only reason why I replied was because you addressed me personally. Sincerely, Dawn

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sat, Sep 10, 2011, at 12:41 AM


Thank you for giving me a window into your Father's persona...it is unfortunate that he decided to share a different side with me. Your father completely humiliated me in front of an entire lodge by first becoming verbal aggressive when we were face to face, and then topped it off with a pleasant explicative for the most everyone to hear. I was then given a wave of the hand as he dismissed me when I defended myself and never returned to the lobby.

I paid for a service, and received a heck of a lot more than I bargained for, and the one simple thing that would have erased it all from my memory bank was a meager apology...a gesture of respect in the wake of an unfortunate melt down, yet it never came from him or any other volunteer. He said his peice in front of atleast 40 people and walked out leaving me to face the jeers. Not even the staff stepped in to rectify the situation. I was treated like an outcast. Keep in mind, this is the same staff who had commented to me that I am always so quiet, and even thanked me for my honesty when I notified them that I had been given 10.00 too much on one of the games that I had won.

Wow did that all melt away when they came to the defense of the caller! It was as though I was attempting to sack the quarterback! This is a customer service complaint, and a valid one. Ironic how I am being asked to consider the 51 years of compassion and integrity that this man has shown you, but not a single Elk has lended me the same consideration. I sat there for over an hour in tears and frusteration after this occured because I couldn't stomach losing my dignity and my money all in one night!

It is unfortunate that he was bothered by the other players, but he has enough age and wisdom to know how to shrug it off.I was a caller for the Bingo hall on Airbase road and serviced the same patrons that seemed to be the root of his frusterations, so I have the capacity to fully empathize with his situation, but the lashing that I got really crossed some pretty fundamental boundaries on how you treat a paying customer, a guest within the lodge, a human being, and even a lady.

I have been insulted in just about every possible manner by this situation...first by the event itself, and second, by all of the Elks affiliates that threw their verbal daggers at me on this forum regardless of the facts. I have been called "uneducated, immature, and even a blight on the community"....I was even promted to move to another state. All this energy in defense of someone that made a mistake, yet no effort to hone that energy on making ammends.....really says a lot don't you think?

Where is your fathers apology?? where is the Lodge's apology?? I am capable of taking an undeserved verbal beating and shrug it off as long as I am helped back up to my feet and given a good handshake. Your father verbally beat me down and left me there to lick my wounds. Not even the other volunteers came to my aid and now I am fending off verbal attacks from people like JHF. So unfortunately actions have always spoken louder than words, and I'm not so sure your loving depiction of an honest and caring man is convincing when I have been verbally punched in the face by him and all of his associations for the last three days.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 11:47 PM

Dear Rocklady

I am very sorry that you were "yelled" at while playing Bingo at the MH Elks Lodge on Wednesday and while I was not there and did not witness the incident please allow me to say a few words about the caller

I have personally known the man for 51 years. He is a man of integraty, honesty, and has a great love for the MH Elks Lodge and Ekldome as a whole. He has taught me to respect others, my family and myself. He has devoted 30 years to the Lodge a has held many offices in the local and state level including the Idaho State Presidency.

At the end of the day he is still human, he makes mistakes like we all do. He is NOT A BAD APPLE he is my father and like it or not he has his not so shining moments. Like I said I was not there, but I DO KNOW my father and I know he will do what he thinks is right. Thank you for allowing me to share a little about my dad

-- Posted by firecat on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 9:32 PM

Agreed US, its sad when a person is expressing their frustration with a situation and gets lashed here too. Seems like its an on going thing here in MH, I have only found a few places where "good service/good deed" is the norm. I know the Elks are a good organization, but you would think they would have wanted this issue to have gone another direction. JHF, if your the "norm" for this "tight knit" community, I can see why people are looking elsewhere for homesteads. I would hope your not the norm and good people are plenty, but only time will tell.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 6:51 PM

Lol I just had a vision of JHF sitting in his Bently wearing a smoking jacket, top hat and monocle. "Jeeves, would you please take dictation for me, I must puff myself up online while attacking someone else's maturity regarding and incident I did not witness. Make sure to mention my advanced degree from a well-known university. That makes me more mature than the general population, right? Right? Jeeves, where'd you go?"

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 6:33 PM

It appears that JHF has expanded his/her mind so much it's brain fell out. OOOhh you qualify for MENSA, where may we build an altar to you? I am sooo impressed I can't even believe I'm in the presence of such greatness. lol I'd rather be surrounded by stupid, decent people than smart, egotistical jerk-wads any day... Also, I donate to charity, does that mean that I can treat people like crap?

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 6:16 PM

Well said Yinny, well said. JHF you called into question RLs intelligence an maturity, which she responded by letting us know shes well rounded, not ignorant as you presume. It sounds more like you'd fit into an impersonal city, since you have no empathy or sympathy to understnad any situation outside your narrow field of view, maybe that advanced degree has something to do with it. It sounds as though she knows exactly how great life can be if shes started a non-profit organization for veterans, that seems pretty self actualized to me, being able to share freely with others. And stating you would not have argued, I find that very hard to believe, since now all your doing is arguing and for what, an issue you were not at or related to. For someone so highly educated you seem to be very lowbrow, but again that advanced degree may have something to do with it.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 4:44 PM

Just Having Fun,

If that were really true about you, why would you insert yourself into this issue now? Come on, now, isn't that more characteristic of a "...truly self actualized person, happy in themselves..."?

"Life is hard enough, don't be a jerk." ~Henri Nouwen

-- Posted by Yinny on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 4:18 PM

Dear Rock Lady,

Glad you are working on your degree. I've held an advanced degree from a well known university for 30 years. Hopefully getting your degree will allow you to mature and also not depend on what you've done related to your husband's group and YES my father was an Elk (elsewhere)and I do know what they do. Perhaps California or New York is a better fit for you rather than Mt. Home. It sounds like you'd fit in better in large, impersonal cities unlike the closeknit Mt Home. With military this may not be an option right now but something to think about. Keep working on your degree...it expands the mind. I'll go my degree and intellect against you any day. Can YOU qualify for MENSA? Take it easy, calm down and keep trying to expand your horizons. You'll be surprised how great your life CAN BE if you keep an upbeat attitude. BY THE WAY...I would not have argued, if I'd been there (and I do not play bingo) I simply would have left if I was unhappy, one who stays is only there to make trouble. A truly self actualized person, happy in themselves will simply get out of the situation.

-- Posted by JustHavingFUn on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 2:45 PM

Scoutin-Thank You for having the capacity to read what I wrote and understand the situation before passing judgement. The compassion is welcomed.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 12:25 PM

Just Having Fun, I do not doubt all of the charitable support that the Elks provide, but I do doubt the level of compassion, respect, and humility that certain volunteers of the Bingo Event hold for its patrons. It seems as though you are quite familiar with the lodge and perhaps you are a personal member of which I commend you...but it seems as though you yourself are "immature", "uneducated" and "childish" with your callous name calling. I am successful in my personal and professional life. Your reference to my possible lack of education is quite comical being that I have an extensive business background in the financial industries as well as civil litigations and have spent the last 6 years working on my degree alongside some of the most well known doctors in the field of geolocial research which likely surpasses your own educational background.

The point is this...I did not interrupt, interject or "butt-in" as I keep being accused of. It matters not that the man in front of me was confused and irritated over the same question....he didn't get an answer, and I was next in line so I asked the question for my OWN clarification. I asked the question respectfully, and never raised my voice. I was spoken to with absolutely no respect at all, and was on the receiving end of his nasty explicative whereby he stormed out of the room never to return. I waited for an apology or even a discussion and none took place. Just as you are permitted to slander my intentions, I am permitted to publish the truth. Say what you want JHF, but I hold true to the fact that if the caller was so irritated with banters from the front row, then he should have dealt with the front row. By not owning up to the fact that he disrespected me publically. it added credence to the fact that it could happen again to another innocent bystander.

But keep up the attacks...just reaffirms what I experienced the other night...that these wrong doers, and their counterparts, will run like a pack of Wolves instead of a pack of Elks who are there to service and support the community. Interesting how you dubbed me a "blight on the community" yet I too have helped service members and veterans, and even spent time establishing a non profit organization for wounded warriors overseas while my husband was serving in Iraq...so don't you dare attack my character or intentions. You have no leg to stand on.

I am not hear to banter about fundraising. I am not hear to question the level of funds that the Elks Lodge provides to children, veterans and education. I am questioning the level of respect and mental fortitude that certain volunteers of the bingo event have. And YES, I will let my military connections know of the harassment that occured and is STILL occuring, for something that was undeserved, because it is the truth and it is my right to do so. But keep the personal attacks flowing JHF....it seems to be the Elks mission statement this week.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 12:06 PM

JHF, I dont think you read her banter, she did not butt in on something, she went up to the caller "at" intermission and asked a question about the next game, nothing on the topic of the arguement between the caller or the people sitting in front of her. And "take a chill pill", right, your totally right, she "paid" to play "a service" and was accosted for an issue she was not involved in. So, again your totally right, she should take a backseat and take a lashing for a service she paid for, seriously. Your telling me in your banter, you would stand there and let someone lash out at you in front of a group of people and yell an explicative at you after you have paid to be there, again Im sure you would nod smartly smile at said yeller and thank them for berating you in front of total strangers for something you didnt cause them to be angry about. I think she did the grown up thing and didnt lash back, she told the person not to speak to her that way and went back to her seat, hoping for an apology for something she didnt deserve, yup, sounds like a childish action to me. You right Im sure those "military contacts" will tell her the Elks do a lot for the community and veterans, but Im sure they would also say, that the individuals actions were uncalled for and not becoming of Elks standards, which you say she needs to come "up" to. I do believe she has, by not making more of a scene of said callers tantram of "sub-par" Elks standards. I would hope the Elks address this individual since this sounds to be an on-going issue with them, I would hate to see a good organization be stained because of one bad apple, which we all know happens all the time.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 11:02 AM

(This is my second try to post a comment to ROck Lady. The first just froze and eventually disappeared. I am sorry if something similar shows up twice.)

Rock Lady, Take a chill pill. Bingo is. afterall a GAME, run by volunteers at a local lodge. These volunteers are the ones in charge, not those of you who chose to butt in the conversation or otherwise gain control to your advantage.

I'm sorry that something so trivial can upset you to that extent. It is time to grow up into a mature individual because life will have far worse to throw at you. I do not know if you are just immature, unknowledgable or a trouble maker but it is time you rethink your need to damage this group, or any group, that does so much for us citizens.

You mentioned military contacts. I am sure those "contacts" will tell you that the Elks started the first hospital dedicated to caring for veterans. That they play bingo and buy needed items for veterans. That they have programs for active duty as well as for the children of deployed soldiers. You may not know these things but I bet your "contacts" do as well as many of us whose lives have been touched by these programs. The money from charitable bingo goes to these programs. Aren't you ashamed of trying to hurt such things with your banter?

The Elks also help kids. They have a basketball shoot, a soccer shoot, they give out dictionaries and SCHOLARSHIPS. They help Special Olympics and 4-H at times, too. You really want to continiue banter that hurts these things? You are DAMAGING the community.

They also help the Elks Hospital in Boise. Many local citizens have gone there for help. I hope you NEVER have to use that facility but I know they'd welcome you if you did. My family has seen that personally, also.

Whether through ignorance, meanness, immaturity or perhaps the prompting of others, you are a blight on the community! It is a GAME, treat it as such! NOW calm down and go do some good in the community. See if YOU can come up to Elks standards...yes, I said UP! Some of us have personally benefitted from their programs! Will the citizens of Mt. Home see any benefit from her attempts to hurt a charitable organization or will they write to help her gain knowledge and maturity!

-- Posted by JustHavingFUn on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 8:30 AM

Its good to hear poor customer service triumphs again here in lovely MH. So, Netters you think that RL should go back next week to see "if" the caller will maybe apologize for being a rude bully to a lady who had a simple question. I know in my line of work professionalism is paramount, so I find it sad that said caller would lash out at someone who wasnt even involved in his little tiff with another person, that sounds like has been going on for some time. Seems to me said caller should have delt with the "real problem" rather than bottle it up and hammer down on someone not even involved, but I digress. It comes down to poor customer service on the callers part ALL that way around. And if the caller didnt apologize immediately, well that just says he feels he was in the right. And why should she stay around until they turn the lights out waiting for an apology that obviously wouldnt come, it sounds as though all the workers there could have done something to recover for the callers lashing, but decided it was in the best interest of the Elks Lodge to do nothing, sounds like a great organization. All in all, it was an episode that one; should have never happened, professionlism first and second; could have been recovered, but was instead left to melt down. Amazing how one person can bring down an organizations reputation. Way to go Elks Lodge, great customer service, keep up the good work.

-- Posted by scoutin on Thu, Sep 8, 2011, at 10:18 AM

Thank you for your clarification Netters...but you did mis-hear what I said last night. I shouted "you do not have to talk to ME that way"...I said nothing in defense of the other player.....perhaps that is why you thought that I butted in.

But I do understand what you are saying about displaced anger, and I think we have all made the mistake of snapping from time to time. I realize we are all human, but in a professional environment it is important to keep emotions outside and to respect your patrons. I gave him plenty of time to come back and discuss the issue and instead he fled and never returned.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Thu, Sep 8, 2011, at 9:05 AM

Rocklady...with that bit of info that you just gave the only summation Ican come up with is maybe you were right about the fact that he had been severely irritated due to the other player complaining about the prior games and not winning or something being amiss, and you asking a simple question to clarify the small cross game. I now can understand how upset you had gotten. And to clarify something I an NOT one of the staff members who was working bingo last night but a mere long time bingo goer. I do know the caller was severely ticked off and needed to severely cool down. That is why I am suggesting you go next week to see for yourself if he does offer an apology. This particular caller is a lot of fun every week he calls bingo and there may have been some underlying issues that may deserve some explaining on his part. But you're never going to know if that happens if you just run away. Have you never inadvertently snap at another individual for no reason except that they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time whether it was a friend, family member or co-worker? I do know the other player had been doing quite a bit of complaining and the caller had just had enough, which does happen to people from time to time.

You do have the right to ask a question to clarify a game that isn't what I am saying at all. But when you hollered "you don't have to talk to him that way" to the caller he was standing there in front of the other player that he was already having issues with then you asked your question about the next game and hence the yelling began. As an observer it just seemed like an unfortunate situation that didn't have to happen. The one thing is two wrongs don't make a right. Wrong #1 was when the caller let is irritation with the other player get to him that way and wrong #2 was when you hollered at the caller. This is the first time that something like this has happened and I am not going to sit here and say it may not happen again. But for as long as I have known both the caller and the other player this has been building for quite some time. Tempers flew in the wrong plavce at the wrong time and that is unfortunate too.

I understand that you sat there for an hour waiting for an apology, but would you want someone to come and apologize still ticked off? To me that would have been an unsincere apology. That is why I suggested to go next week to see if that happens. Just go and don't buy your cards until you have the chance to see if all the caller needed to do was severely cool down or not. I am sure you would rather have a sincere apology than an unsincere one.

Even though you were severely upset, why didn't you stay afterwards to confront the caller? You stated that one of the workers made the comment that he was her husband so he couldn't have gone too far since he had to take his wife home.

Again, I can understand how upset you were by the incident that took place, but can you at least understand the situation the caller was in as well? Yes, it may have been unprofessional and wrong place to snap but when a person has had to put up with this particular player and his never ending complaining he did just that he snapped and you were in the line of fire. Everyone has done that a time or two in their life. An individual can only take so much crap until enough is enough.

Hopefully you will be there next week.

-- Posted by netters on Thu, Sep 8, 2011, at 8:48 AM

Netter...I am a bit perplexed as to how I "butted in on an ongoing situation" ? I approached the caller and asked a question in order to clarify my confusion, whereby I was shouted at. No one was yelling at the caller, no one was angry with the caller...so please pray tell why I was deserving of a verbal lashing for asking my FIRST question whereby everyone else was spoken to with respect? Just because I asked a similar question to another player does not mean that I butted into anything. Ironically, the other gentleman was spoken to with complete respect dispite his ongoing complaints, I (who was totally silent) was attacked upon asking a SINGLE question.

So your telling me that I am not permitted to ask a question pertaining to the clarity of a game?

And that I deserved to be spoken to by this man because he had apparently been asked a similar question by someone else?

Sounds to me like you are one of the elks employees that is merely trying to cover your backside. And to be clear....if I was 6'2 and weighed about 250 pounds (as the other man who apparently asked the question before me did), I would have been given a heck of a lot more respect. But being a lady perhaps commanded no respect at all.

I did not speak a word to this man prior to this attack and asking for clarity does not justify the verbal attack that I recieved...irregardless of how many other people may have asked the same or similar question before me.

To clarify, NO I do not need to attend next week to work things out. I sat there for an hour and waited for an apology, and the man never came back, while the other staff members bumbled around acting as though I would disappear too if they simply avoided looking at me.

Immature, disrespectful, cowardly, and UNPROFESSIONAL. When you spend 50.00 you are entitled to ask a question and not be taken down at the knees...doesn't matter how many people may have asked the same or similar question before me.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Thu, Sep 8, 2011, at 8:11 AM

In response to Rocklady and her experience at the Elks Lodge this evening, I too was at bingo tonight and witnessed what had happened. In the very beginning of all of the uproar the caller was addressing issues with a player who has been going to bingo every week for a very long time. This player has something to complain about every single week and is never happy unless he wins (which he gets a tad upset when he doesn't and lets the caller whomever that may be for the night know about it). When the caller raised his voice to you was after you had butted in to the problem that has been ongoing for some time now with that particular player...you should never have offered your two cents into what was going on between them it was none of your business. The player knows how the diagram of the game in question is played. Maybe on one hand the caller should have apologized but on the other hand you yourself should have tried to apologize for butting in where it didn't concern you. If you decide to go play bingo elsewhere that is your decision and we will be sad to see you go since we normally have a great time at the Elks Lodge bingo. In my opinion only I feel you should attend bingo next week and possibly try to talk to that particular caller and the two of you iron things out..again just my opinion. You can spread the word of the incident through your neighborhood and through your husbands military connections that is your right but the Elks Lodge has a lot of bingo followers.

-- Posted by netters on Wed, Sep 7, 2011, at 11:46 PM

I have spent the last 6 Wednesdays at the Elks Lodge playing bingo. I am fairly reserved and quiet-one of the Elks Lodge members who works the Bingo floor even commented that I never seem to make a peep. Tonight the caller was aggitated, as usual, by a couple of individuals in the row in front of me who seemed to frequently pointed out his mistakes. His displaced anger was aimed at me when I approached him during intermission and asked him to clarify the parameters of the next game. I guess he needed to attack someone for the way he was being poked at, and I was the target. I was verbally assaulted loudly in front of the entire crowd of players to the point where all chatter ceased. I retorted by asking why I was being addressed with such disrespect and explained that I would never dream of speaking to a customer,or anyone for that manner, in that way. He shouted out an explicative, dealing with a bull and its end product, and walked out of the building never to return.

I asked the staff for the man's name and who his supervisor was.....I was ignored. I asked what his title is- the desk lady stated "My husband". After expressing my outrage she stated "you did not deserve that." Yet, the man never came back into the building to privately or publically appologize to me, nor did any of the staff. I was however, brought a tissue, after asking for one, to catch the tears that I couldn't seem to choke back from embarassment and outrage.

Realizing that I was not going to receive an appology or a humane level of respect, I asked for a refund of my unplayed cards whereby my request was declined due to state laws(understood). This event occured after I was overpaid for an earlier win. I even delivered the extra 10.00 back to them in a later game when I realized the overage and was commended for the honesty.

My husband was nice enough to join me during the last two games, and observed the awkward stares from the Elks staff.

If this is how they treat guests then I will take my weekly contributions to another establishment even if that requires a commute to Boise.

Is this the Elks way? (to attack a person verbally, who has always been a good, quiet and cheerful customer and flee like a coward knowing he was wrong, not returning to even offer an apology?? I find that sad if true and know I will spread this incident through my community of friends and my husbands military network.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Wed, Sep 7, 2011, at 10:45 PM

Some just never learn.



-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Sep 7, 2011, at 12:11 PM

Geoff, guess I not doing something right, I posted it over the weekend then again this morning but it didn't ask me for an e-mail addy or having to put in my comment name, so I guess I just lost in the internet world LOL.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 5:20 PM


I sure will post your comment, and my response. I don't currently have any comments awaiting moderation, and there are currently 14 posted comments. How long ago was it, maybe try again? I get an email when they are posted, and then when I get the chance I can approve and respond. It allows for anonymous posting, but it helps to respond to at least a made-up name for that post.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 5:03 PM

Geoff, I guess my comment with a question on your blog is not going to be posted or answered.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 4:03 PM


There was an ad placed by a Justin David, looking for a personal assistant, a couple of weeks ago. Long story short, this person referred me to another person looking for an assistant. Guess what???? A SCAM. Go to: www.douglassteelsupply.com and click on the SCAM ALERT to read the article.

-- Posted by OldEnough2Know on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 10:30 AM

I want to thank the City of Mt. Home for the disc golf course. Some things that need immediate attention are...

1. Please adjust the watering schedule. It's a mosquito infested swamp out there.

2. It's a bad idea to cross the soccer fields while games are in progress

3. It's a bad idea to cross the parking lot.

4. Hole 7's path should not have picnic tables in the line.

**Just some safety things.

-- Posted by Reserve ID on Mon, Sep 5, 2011, at 9:06 PM

427... It was posted off topic on one of Roy's blogs. Since Roy asked for people to keep discussions on topic, I asked for a response from her on the BB. My original post a few weeks ago explained this. Dig a little deeper and you'll find it.

-- Posted by MrMister on Mon, Sep 5, 2011, at 3:01 PM

You're right, Tim- that's exactly what it was, a rough estimate of the total with the city's extra fees could be added in. As it turns out, it's a lot less than an additional 20k. I just don't want the misperception of 80K going to the church to get any more traction than it looks like it has already. The church got 24, their attorneys took 37, and we will know what our additional legal fees are pretty soon, but probably not near what was initially estimated. Hope that helps.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Mon, Sep 5, 2011, at 1:28 PM

Councilman Schroeder I thought I heard someone say after factoring in the amount paid to outside council this lawsuit would end up costing the city close to $80K. Could me wrong but I thought I hear that figure used.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Mon, Sep 5, 2011, at 1:19 PM

I'd like to correct part of Marsha' letter to the editor. The actual amount paid by the city is $61,040.11. I think the "$81,000" figure I keep seeing and hearing is a repetition of an early estimate of the total including the city's legal fees. Although we don't have the final amount yet, it turns out they aren't nearly that high. A copy of the actual check, and some commentary on the $37,040.11 paid to the Chicago Law Firm is at:


-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Mon, Sep 5, 2011, at 9:07 AM

Still waiting for an answer as to what the below quote meant...

"Does anyone else find it interesting that those who were involved in the killing of Osama are now dead? Does that not sound fishy to anyone else?"

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Aug 6, 2011, at 11:42 PM

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 6:17 PM

I don't see where she posted the above comment.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 10:49 PM

Still waiting for an answer as to what the below quote meant...

"Does anyone else find it interesting that those who were involved in the killing of Osama are now dead? Does that not sound fishy to anyone else?"

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Aug 6, 2011, at 11:42 PM

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 6:17 PM

Now I think I may have seen it all! Below is a letter from current WECRD Board President, Marsha Sellers expressing outrage towards a church who saw an opportunity to make a little money (kind of like the WECRD asking for money through appropriations with less than factual information). Ms. Sellers, do I need to remind you that for more years than I have fingers the WECRD has taxed the people of this taxing district/community for NOTHING all the while taking funds from legit programs that COULD BE??? So, while you point your little finger of yours at the church, you have 3 fingers pointing right back at ya girl! Pot, meet kettle. LMBO. Get off your high horse Marsha and welcome yourself back to reality. People in glass recreation centers with pools (even if only in their own minds) should not cast stones...

Did the WECRD Board pray and ask Jesus what to do before they changed the taxing structure contrary to what was voted for? Did the WECRD Board consider that "ripple effect?"

Dear editor:

Last week's front page story about a lawsuit settled out of court against the City of Mountain Home has the ripple effect of a very smooth stone thrown by a Chicago law firm.

I have learned the spokesman for the No Limits Christian Ministries Church is our former mayor of Mountain Home and not a member of this church!

I can't help but ask -- what were you thinking?

The conditional permit was concerned about the parking area and aged septic tank of the building and two other problems not included in the news story.

Instead of fixing (solving) the problems, the church chose to "sue" our city (and its taxpayers) and we will end up paying some $80,000 out of the 2011-2012 general funds.

From what I am told "our" federal law forbids us to have "conditional use talks" with churches about their toilets, parking lots or ethics?

I am sure that the members of the No Limits Christian Church prayed before they decided to seek help from the Chicago law firm and now their membership understands the consequences' of their actions.

Their lawyers and our lawyers will end up with $56,000, while the church ends up with $24,000.

The ripple effect of this "legal" decision will impact the taxpayer, children and our elderly by changing no longer available funding for the city programs such as the Youth Center and possibly the local bus company.

At this point, it would be helpful and healing if the membership of the No Limits Christian Ministries Church and other churches pray for guidance in helping these programs survive the consequence of this ripple effect.

Wouldn't that be what the Lord Jesus Christ would want us to do by uniting in an effort to stand in the gap?

Marsha Sellers

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 4:45 PM

Sounds like an inside job??? Lots of details on the suspect description, including the lining color of the backpack? Sounds pretty "suspect" to me. Jus' sayin'.

-- Posted by roosterz on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 12:14 PM


Well, this is just horrible! As long as we have lived here, I don't remember a robbery of this type happening here.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 9:35 AM

Lights on around your house are a great deterent to thieves. Motion lights are even better because the theives aren't sure exactly why the lights came on. And the best part is, it's easier to see your sights with the lights on.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Sat, Sep 3, 2011, at 7:16 PM

Mr. Goat-beard?...A thief is thief cause they can do IT in the dark...steal that is...when was last time you saw someone suck gas out of a tank of gas in the day. Our lights are on all night long and yes I we have a car that you can get the gas out of..But has a dog...very alert dog.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 9:05 PM

Actually, lighting is a time-proven deterrent to theft. Name one high-value asset facility that uses darkness as a theft deterrent.

-- Posted by txplnt on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 8:09 PM

Yup, turn on the lights so the thief can better see what they're doing. I have another awnser for those who steal.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 7:14 AM

What H..E double hockey sticks is going on with people stealing gas? My neighbor had his back seat taken out. Turn your OUTSIDE lights on. Best thing you can do.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 10:19 PM

This may be beating a dead horse, but news that is old is not News, its History...

-- Posted by jdvann on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 8:34 PM

Also, Stopcorrupt87, maybe you should start your own paper instead of posting news links here. Most all of us have TVs. There is really no need for you to post what is interesting news to you here. jmho

-- Posted by jdcb on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 4:37 PM

I understand that you are a weekly NEWSPAPER, that is not what I have an issue with here.

I have an issue with the lack of "NEWS" on this website. America is going the way of online news and it seems the Mountain Home News does not embrace that move.

I would like to be able to read what is happening in Mountain Home or the surrounding areas when it actually happens.

For example, and this is a recent event that is on your website and was posted the same day it happened. The consignment shop that burned down. Your website posted that story the SAME DAY that the event happened. Why weren't the three events

I linked to online when the fire story was?

I think you should read the below links that so you can see that people WANT online news as it happens.



It is your newspaper and your website, but I just wanted to point out that people want the news now and it would be nice to actually be able to go to the local newspaper website to get that news; instead of going to a different news site.

As aphroditeese has pointed out that you only update on Wednesday, and which some of your articles are from events that happened weeks ago.

That's ok though, I will continue linking to KTVB and the Idaho Statesman with local news so that my fellow neighbors can view what is happening, as it happens.

-- Posted by stopcorrupt87 on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 4:37 PM

Stopcorrupt87, do you not understand what a weekly newspaper is? Or did I miss out that this is no longer a weekly paper? I don't think many expect to have daily updates since this isn't a daily paper.

-- Posted by jdcb on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 4:31 PM

That comment is getting so annoying. The Mountain Home News doesnt go out till Weds. So every Weds they update the paper online as well.. Wednesday...Every Wednesday!!!!!

-- Posted by aphroditeese on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 3:39 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Thank you, thank you, thank you. We are not a television or web base news channel, we are a weekly NEWSPAPER that comes out once a week which we sell. In my 20 years here this never was an issue until we offered our website/homepage for FREE. This way our ADVERTISERS had another avenue of getting their name out there and our classified readers were more out there for people needing to sell something for FREE. And we do have many many hits weekly whether it be be "comment" followers or weekly E-readers. Now you can choose to be a subscriber via hard copy subscriptions/single copy sales or via the web or even both. It was another option for our NEWSPAPER readers. Thank you for your support.

Once again, the Mountain Home News doesn't want to post the stories that are going on in town. This is starting to get ridiculous. If your not going to post the news when it happens, then what is the point of being a Newspaper?

Now, again from KTVB:

Airplane Crash in Atlanta -


Mountain Home woman drowns at Anderson -


Suspect in high-speed pursuit identified -


-- Posted by stopcorrupt87 on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 1:50 PM

RE: Now, this is giving back to your school!

Ha! That will never happen here. Very cool though.

-- Posted by VicVega on Mon, Aug 29, 2011, at 3:08 PM


Now, this is giving back to your school!

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Mon, Aug 29, 2011, at 8:17 AM

To my loving Aunt Cricket (Anne). I Love you so very much and miss you. You will be missed Rest In Peace. Love your Niece, Marie

-- Posted by Mariegaryh on Sun, Aug 28, 2011, at 2:54 PM

OH ANNE!!!! What a beautiful soul, made of pure gold. Rest in peace, my friend. Prayers, hugs and love to all of her family. You will always hold a special place in my heart and that of many others

-- Posted by homee on Sun, Aug 28, 2011, at 2:45 PM

Funniest thing about the church lawsuit....bigtime chicago lawyers got all the money

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sun, Aug 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM

R.I.P. Beautiful Sweet Anne You will be greatly missed. I will always love you !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Aug 28, 2011, at 12:26 AM

All of the relevant documents in the No Limits Christian Ministries, Inc. case against the City are available on a blog I started on the topic here:


After giving them some time to digest, I'll start offering my candid commentary on the case there as well.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Fri, Aug 26, 2011, at 6:40 PM

Anyone remember Victory Gardens? Let's set aside some ground and ask the people who are getting the assistance to plow, plant, harvest and "put up". Gleaning is also a viable option. Maybe boost some self esteem and pride in acomplishment.

-- Posted by Goldtooth on Fri, Aug 26, 2011, at 9:33 AM

For a town full of people who receive government checks (i.e retirement checks from the government, SSI. Ect...) you all seem to be heck bent (can't use profanity) on blaming anyone for anything. To the people getting assistance good for you get the help you need and as Americans deserve. For the people who don't get assistance good for you way to be awesome! For everyone else could you at least water your lawns, it brings down property value. Don't forget everyone is about two paychecks away from being like me.

As always, spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Fri, Aug 26, 2011, at 9:33 AM

I think I take offense because I know people on assistance who abuse the privilege,and those who do not. I see the same issues with government subsidies that you do, but complaining about it isn't going to change it. I'm not offended by the term "lazy freeloader" because I am most certainly not one. I am offended that you seem to use the term to encompass anyone on assistance. As a child we are often asked what our plans are, or who and what we want to be when we grow up.. I would venture to say that very very few people come back with "I want to grow up, have several children I can't afford to feed, abuse the assistance programs and live a good life." It's not a dream to get caught up in that stuff. For those that really do abuse the system, I agree, shame on them. In this instance you responded to a woman with a job, going to school, who was asking if there was a way to use FS for FRESH, LOCAL produce. How you get lazy freeloader from that is beyond me. I have an acquaintance who gets free cereal from WIC and gives that away because her kids won't eat "healthy" cereal and uses FS to buy sugared cereals... honestly, that makes me so irritated! More so than Twinkies and soda. I get it, some people are irresponsible and inappropriate with assistance, but you ranted after a seemingly responsible member of society asked a simple question. That is where I have an issue.

-- Posted by thejenexperience on Fri, Aug 26, 2011, at 9:21 AM


1. You haven't offended me.

2. I never actually said SHE was abusing the system. I just pointed out abuses; if she falls into any of those categories then she is abusing the system. Since I don't know her personally I don't know if she does. So no apology is necessary.

3. I wish they would go after the deadbeat PARENT for child support. I was a single father of 2 and my ex was supposed to pay child support. Never saw a penny, she just kind of fell of the face of the earth. So yes I agree they need to hold these PARENTS (not just dads anymore) accountable.

4. The system is broken and needs to be fixed the problem is there are so many people abusing the system that they don't want it fixed. There are so many people abusing the system that the small numbers that ACTUALLY need it get lost. I have never said anyone should go hungry; I have invited strangers to my table and into my home to help them. I have helped family members that needed it, but then I have also noticed family and strangers just use and not even try. At least she is trying by going to school.

5. I'm just tired of people expecting more, expecting handouts and freebees at the expense of those that actually try. I'm just saying stop giving money and give food as they spend money on other things and the kids pay the price. There will be a breaking point and I believe it is coming sooner than later, and those that really need the help will be the ones to suffer. Not by choice but by the implosion of society cause by the lazy freeloaders. If you're offended by the term "lazy freeloaders" you are probably one of them. I'm not personally saying anyone person is but I see them everyday especially around the 1st of the month. You can hide your head in the sand and deny the problems, stick your fingers in your ears and say "I can't hear you" but it is true. LIFE ISN"T FREE and the scales are tipping toward disaster unless something is done.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Fri, Aug 26, 2011, at 8:01 AM

Well go you! You were poor once too? You refused? Congratulations! Do you want a medal or a chest to pin it on? Go get a job deciding who gets assistance or not so you can single handedly fix this nations problems. I did to you what you did to her. If you fall into an abusive/ egotistical category I'm asking if you fall into it. I have the mirror. I've seen me and who I was, who I am, and who I can be. You haven't cornered the market on being angry about assistance abuse. It's frustrating sometimes, but it's not MY job to be someone's else's conscience. I'm a working class kinda girl who works 12 hour shifts so I don't have to listen to people like you complain about me and make me feel bad. I work hard so provide for my kid however, I'd rather beg for a handout than watch my baby go hungry. For some it's a loss of pride to ask have compassion for those that want to be better. Please. I kind of think you owe just1 an apology for assuming she is abusing anything. Sorry I've attacked you, sorry if I have offended you, but you offended me.

-- Posted by thejenexperience on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 11:15 PM

Thank you workingbee. Someone's got to stick up for people who deserve it. When I was on public assistance my (then) husband left me to have a baby with another person. Left me with nothing and no child support to help care for our child. Minimum wage barely covers daycare much less diapers, wipes, food, gas, car maintenance .... It wasn't my idea! We had a plan and he wrecked it! So here's a thought, fix the child support laws too. We can complain, I've done my share too, but come on coming down on the innocent, or those sincerely trying to better their lives is stupid and mean. By the way, what's wrong with buying steak with food stamps? It's a very viable source of protien and iron. No clue why you're complaining

about that. Stop complaining unless you are going to fix it.

-- Posted by thejenexperience on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 11:04 PM

People who are judging me for speaking out about waste and abuse have no clue.

They say I don't know her situation. I never said I did know her situation. I stated the abuses I have seen and see everyday.

You say I'm a snob but you again have no clue. I'm not I help others. I was poor once; I was eligible for assistance once (BUT REFUSED). I worked harder and still do.


I just think people need to be more responsible and held accountable. I didn't say she was abusing but just laid out some of the abuses I see and asked her if she fell into one of the categories. If she didn't not a problem but it was just a reality check.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 11:02 PM

thejenexperience,,, wish there was a "like" button

-- Posted by workingbee on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 10:44 PM

I think we are so off topic. Government subsidies are abused. But not everyone on them abuse them. As you can see just1 was asking if anyone knew if FS could be used at a farmers market. Doesn't sound to me like someone looking for twinkies and soda. Also mentioned having a garden to grow some veggies. How can you try and call her out when obviously she's not the problem? I know people who do abuse their assistance and don't think twice about it. If YOU want to change the system then figure out a way to change it that does NOT penalize those who aren't abusing it! Times are hard, like it or not. No one cares about your tax woes. I have to pay taxes too every year but I also set aside other money and time AND energy to help those less fortunate because being on public assistance does not automatically make you trash! You are no better or worse than any Other person. Don't like other monetary classes of people? Same as being a racist. Quit being a snob it's rude.

-- Posted by thejenexperience on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 10:36 PM

It is pretty sad the people attack me saying I'm judging others but they are doing the same to me. Maybe they should look in the mirror.

I never said I new the persons life, I just pointed out that this program is out of control as is other government handouts at taxpayer expense. I just pointed out the abuses I see with the system and the community. The well will eventually run dry. It will also not pay to work when they take more and more in taxes than it is to live on the dole.

People need to take responsibility for their actions. I'm for random drug testing, spot inspections of homes for people getting food stamps and welfare. I also think they should have to work in the community either picking up trash on the road, mowing the parks, or other.

Better yet have them cook meals after school in the schools and serve to others getting food stamps. No money changes hands and our taxes pay for FOOD that the recipients prepare.

As for talking to the politicians it is like talking to a rock. I vote for people that don't believe in socialism but for personal responsibility.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 10:27 PM

My oh My! Just, how, did it suddenly get so personal!!!?

-- Posted by MrMister on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 10:27 PM


Just who do you think you are, that you demand other people justify their circumstances to you! What level of arrogance drives you to criticise and chastise someone because they bought a twinkie instead of a bag of beans?

What level of Judge do you aspire to be?

Whoever wrote that if you have a problem with tax distribution, then you should complain to the distributors, nailed it down for you. On this website, you are all speed and no direction...simply spinning in place around yourself. Attacking the needy must make you feel strong.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 8:09 PM

As to the food stamp issue. I personally know of a "group" of people who live off of disability and food stamps. The first of the month rolls around and they spend the food stamps, on food I hope. They also make their monthly trip to Jackpot to gamble. Driving their van to Jackpot, spending what money they have, running out and then going from place to place asking for charity in the form of food and money.

I heard, though I can't confirm, that some of the charities have been cracking down and letting people like this know that it's not acceptable to do this. There is a HUGE abuse of the food stamp program going on. Go into a store and buy an item that rings up for less than two dollars and pocket the change, though with the credit card system they use now, I would hope that would not be able to take place any more. No change back would be a great idea. Or, go into the store and buy food for your friend and have them give you the cash, charge them less, you're still getting cash.

The ways to fraud the system are countless and there will always be someone who is out there taking advantage. Taking the resources away from those who REALLY need it, is not the answer. We don't need more children going hungry in our country because food stamps were taken away completely.

I think if a person IS on food stamps and is not working, they should be made to volunteer somewhere, not just sit on the couch eating Twinkies and drinking soda. I also think things like soda should NOT be allowed on food stamps. A steak once in a while, not big deal. I don't believe McDonald's accepts food stamps as someone said, the food has to be taken home and cooked. Pizza from Papa Murphy's is okay once in a while, though, I don't believe that someone should be able to go into the place and buy $100. worth of pizza with food stamps and then go home and treat their friends to a pizza party.

The food stamp issue is a bad one, they are needed, they are abused. There just needs to be a better system in place to catch the abuse and end it.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 5:30 PM

Froggy, I'm sorry to hear of your experience with Sears. I don't shop there and can't speak for their service at all. It's good you were able to get it taken care of in Boise, though it SHOULD have been taken care of in a different manner here in Mountain Home if there is where you bought it.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 4:57 PM

Dear Trouble 2011,

I don't know who you are, what you do, or what your background is. There are people abusing the system for sure, but you aren't going to stop it. If they remove a program to stop the abuse, the only people who will be hurt by it are the people who desperately need it. People who abuse the system will find another way around it. I don't believe you know who just1 is. I don't believe you know her story, but you sir need to worry about you and your life and stop judging others. If you don't like helping with your taxes or whatever your theory is, take it up with a government agency. I'll bet you're the kind of person that if you came across someone on fire and you had water you'd drink it. I'm a single parent that works 72 hours a week, I was on FS for 3 months the first time and 6 months the second time I ever used it. I voluntarily removed myself both times when my circumstances changed. However, it is, in many cases, families who has an illness or injury remove them from their job, and accident or unplanned emergency that makes having this assistance necessary. And if I need to help or support my community by paying higher taxes or giving a helping hand, then by God I will. people who judge and speak harshly when they are uneducated about a situation or person is what makes America a sad place to be. Sounds to me like just1 is hard worker who just needs a boost to get through this short period before becoming someone even more amazing than she is already. Who are you to put her down? And furthermore, if your job, business, and home life have not been affected by the economy then you should drop down and thank God right now, because way too many of us have been. I pray you never have to ask for help in your life. Just1, keep going to school and get that degree, you're doing fine and you're going to make it. Don't let uneducated judgmental people ever feel badly for dong what you need to do!

-- Posted by thejenexperience on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 4:34 PM


I'm not trying to judge anyone. I'm just sick and tired of paying for everyone else. I'm tired of my taxes going up but my home value dropping. I'm tired of seeing the abuse of the systems designed to help the TRULLY needy by people that just want a free ride and something for nothing.

You can go to the bars and see people drinking that are on food stamps, I know the drinks are not free. You can see people buying only the best junk food and steaks with the food stamps. You see people using food stamps then pull out cash for beer and cigarettes. You watch as people on these programs get into cars that are newer and more expensive than yours and it just really upsets me.

I don't know her situation but all I can say is if she has bought a lottery ticket ate out or bought Twinkies with her food stamps then she is as guilty of fraud as anyone. If she hasn't then congrats but I wouldn't place a bet on it.

I could name names of some of those who are defrauding the system but when I report them they don't seem to care. This is what I'm sick of, all the waste.

But I guess people that don't actually have to sit down and write a check to the IRS each year in addition to them keeping what they take out don't really care as they are not loosing anything. Besides it will be your kids and their kids that will have to deal with the bill when it is due. We have been kicking the can down the road but we are running out of road.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 3:53 PM


Maybe since your so concerned about food stamps and how just1 uses them and if she buys a lottery ticket. How about you helping her out each month so she can have enough food to feed her family? Better yet meet her at farmers market and buy her some veggies. Never judge anyone unless you have walked in their shoes

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 2:53 PM


Since I know you're a teenager and just graduated High School I will give your comment due thought....ok done.

I don't need to be lectured by someone that has no life experiences and I'm sure has never paid taxes herself.

The problems are too many people are abusing the system. When I was young, married with a small child I was eligible for food stamps in Southern California. Somebody one welfare got a bigger check then me every month. The problem is I was too proud to collect food stamps even though I was told to go get them. I instead went out and got a second job. I worked at a gas station and Subway sandwich shop while having a full time job. I also didn't go out except the rare special occasion due to not having money. I didn't eat out, I didn't go to McDonalds (I see they accept food stamps). I bought generic name products like macaroni, spaghetti, and peanut butter. For meat my wife and I ate a lot of SPAM since it was cheap.

The problem with a lot of people is they expect a handout, they feel it is their right. Social Security, Medicare, and even unemployment are programs people pay into them and it should go back to them.

Food stamps and welfare are not paid into every month deducted from your paycheck.

I thought you were a very smart girl but don't lecture your elders about life when you are just starting yours. Also this conversation really had nothing to do with you in the first place.

I say again when was the last time she went out to eat? When was the last lottery ticket she bought? When did she go to a movie last? Does she own her own home? Does she own multiple vehicles and are they less than 10 years old? I appreciate her finishing her schooling to better herself but I know that is not cheap either. What scarifies have they made since they asked their neighbors to sacrifice for them.

I'm not out of line at all, the system is broke. The country is broke and we need a better way. I have ideas but that would involve people not getting cash but nutritious food, they just have to go to their local schools to get it.

If someone in my family needed help I would be there, if a neighbor or friend called and needed something I will be there, if a stranger is stranded I will be there. But I'm tired of being duped, taken, and used like a lot in this country.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 1:12 PM

Trouble, what you said is out of line. Completely.

Your reading comprehension must be off- she didn't necessarily say that she was paying taxes right NOW, just that she had in the past, but because of her current circumstances she needs assistance.

Instead of being rude and instantly judging anyone who uses food stamps, without any knowledge of the situation, you should have either stayed silent or helped her out with her question. It's nice to know that she wants to use her food stamps to shop local and support Idaho's farmers.

I certainly hope they do, I love Farmer's Markets.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 9:15 AM

If your hubby is paying taxes how do you qualify for food stamps?

About 50% of Americans DON'T PAY taxes since they don't make enough money. If your in the upper 50% then how do you qualify?

You should check the abuses out their around the 1st. Sit in one of your vehicles at wallmart or albertsons, it doesn't have to be you new one and watch people as they get into their newer cars. Or go inside and watch people buying twinkies and steaks with the food stamps. Then they turn around and us cash for thier beer and cigs.

Has anyone in your family bought a lottory ticket since you started getting your handout? I know a lot that do, every week. They can afford to gamble but not eat. Go figure.

I'm not mean just tired of paying for other people to play. We shouldn't let people go hungry but by just giving money to people they will abuse it. I see it everyday.

Check out the lottory winner (over 2mil) and still on food stamps. This is just one abuser and it is legal, that is the sick part.

There has to be a better way friends, family, churches, local community, and more.

The problem is most don't buy generic top raman, mac and cheese, and such. Most drive newer vehicles than I do. And some have a large house than I do. It is sad that they went to a credit card instead of the stamps.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 25, 2011, at 5:47 AM

Trouble, you sure seem to think you know a lot don't you. This is not a permanent situation for my family however at the moment it is dearly needed. Between working( both my husband and myself) and going to school ( myself) and the garden not putting out enough to fully feed us, it is needed. Perhaps you should be the one embarrassed at your obnoxious assumption that everyone on food stamps is abusing "the system", particularly in the current economy. No, I am not at all embarrassed to be temporarily using a safety net my and my husbands taxes go towards. I am not embarrassed that I am choosing to finish my college education and thereby putting myself in a better position to provide for my family in the future without having to rely on such a crutch as food stamps even though by doing that I am losing wages that could be being earned currently. I am also not embarrassed that if given the option, I would buy with my food stamps, locally grown food which is not only healthier but would support our local economy. Do not presume to know my situation and perhaps think a little bit more before you open your mouth next time. You can reply, rant, and babble all you would like in response. I will not waste any more of my time on you as I have more pressing things to take care of such as a full class load worth of homework. Have a lovely evening.

-- Posted by just1 on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 11:36 PM

Questions about using food stamp?

That is part of the problem, nobody is embarrassed they can't pull their weight, take care of themselves without a handout. What happened to the embarrassment of having to live of your neighbor? I wish they would do away with the whole food stamp program and make people meet at the school for meals. That would motivate people to not freeload.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 10:24 PM

Does Walmart even count as a local business??? We should be careful to not count out all local businesses. I've had positive experiences with Lane's Appliances. Price and service. Especially the service. And no I don't work there or have any friends or family that do :)

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 9:57 PM

Has anyone heard whether or not food stamps are able to be used at the MH farmers market yet? It would be wonderful if they were!

-- Posted by just1 on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 9:32 PM

ItsJustMeAgain - I THINK it was Sears. I haven't shopped there for years and now I can't remember what it was they said I needed to pay a re-stocking fee on? So just in case I'm wrong...BUT the final straw shopping there was this... Bought a air compressor. Out of the box, it didn't work. Just needed a part. Asked them for the part to fix it. Was told no, could bring it in and have it repaired and PAY for the repairs. So, then called Sears in Boise and we just exchanged it.

-- Posted by froggy on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 8:10 PM

ItsJustMeAgain - I hate to say it, but it was the Sears here that wanted to charge a re-stocking fee. And we won't shop there anymore either - get tools, parts and stuff at the Sears in Boise.

Walmart drives me nuts. Often they are out of stock of things/brands we buy regularly. So now, anything we can buy at Costco, I will, rather than here, even though I don't like having a 10 lb bottle of fabric softner. Plus the new release movies are generally cheaper in Boise then they are here - so MH Resident is right in saying the same item can be cheaper in Boise, even though it's still Walmart. Here's a tip - Check out what they sell at the store and then go online to check the online price. Beleive it or not I have bought a Ship to Store Item CHEAPER than the item that was already IN the store! Quite often produce is awful. The pharmacy is ok though. I like the people there for the most part. The guy in the electronics dept - I think he sort of has a mohawk thing going on, is my fave.

All of which is sad. Don't know why they waste the money with the 'local joe' promo. That isn't going to keep business here. I would love to spend my money here, but I'm not paying more. Can't afford it. Which is why I mentioned Wondertrails, because I just couldn't believe it when I found their prices comparable to Amazon and other places on the internet - and believe me I checked. I didn't have to pay shipping either. So good for them. I hope they make a go of it.

-- Posted by froggy on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 7:51 PM

Thank you Mr427538, been a long time since I have been on E-Bay guess I need to check it out. Thanks

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 6:31 PM

thank my sister**

-- Posted by yoB on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 6:11 PM

I would like to take a few moments to thank you sister for posting this announcement in the Mountain Home News! (:

Congrats and Happy 25th anniversary to my parents! I love/miss them very much.


Rebecca Smith

-- Posted by yoB on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 6:08 PM

Eagle-eye Check out this number on E-Bay.


-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 5:09 PM

Just to change the topic a bit. Does anyone out their know where I can get what they call onion bags and not plastic either, the open type that air can flow thru?

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 4:55 PM

I refuse to buy local, theres no competition or customer care. Without this key elements, the consumer doesnt get a "fair" deal. I now do all my shopping online or in Boise, just for the facts mentioned. If this town wants to even compete with the township being built just west, businesses better change their ways, or MH will become like Rattlesnake Station... a blurp in the history books.

-- Posted by scoutin on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 4:27 PM

Froggy, where do you pay a restocking fee here in Mountain Home? I am not a fan of Walmart, though I do shop there since the prices are the lowest that I have found, in town. I have returned items and never had to pay a restocking fee. I can't think of one place in Mountain Home where I have paid a restocking fee.

I agree, the service here in town could improve greatly. I remember the service at Walmart was top notch when K-Mart was across the street. Within a short few months after K-mart left, Walmart prices started rising AND the service started going down hill. That's not to say that all Walmart employees are downers, a few are happy and upbeat and always smiling, I try to deal with them when I go there.

In my experiences, the McDonald's on Airbase road is not a good place to go, messing up orders, employees are not friendly, however, the McDonald's on the hill, it's the opposite.

The service in several places in town is okay from some of their employees and not so much from others. I think you get that where ever you go. I'm glad you found a place to supply you with your hobby needs and that the service was good for you.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Wed, Aug 24, 2011, at 2:47 PM

Shop Local? I must say, not a big fan of the promo with the little creepy man and a lot of the business here in town. I'm not paying higher prices, restocking fees and dealing with crappy service, etc (when it comes to buying consumer goods, rather than services. Mtn Home does better in the service arena, but the shops are another story for the most part)

That being said, I was rather pleasantly surprised by the new hobby store, Wondertrails, I think it's called, off of Airbase. We got a sudden urge to make a model - like we did when we were kids, lol. Actually went to Wally World first, and couldn't find any model kits - then remembered there was a store on Airbase.

Went to the store - they had a sign saying they would match online prices - and we shop online a lot. Interesting - liked it. Made my purchase, (staff was nice and helpful, but not in your face). I then checked the price of the item we bought online when we got home. Believe it or not, Walmart was a few cents higher, Amazon a few cents lower. Wow - now that's a first for me here! Hmmm, I will have to see if they have re-stocking fees, but if not, I will do business with them if I'm in the market. So kudos to the Wondertrails for fair pricing!

-- Posted by froggy on Mon, Aug 22, 2011, at 8:45 PM

Orozco trial set for 6 February


-- Posted by VicVega on Mon, Aug 22, 2011, at 3:56 PM

Some people just love to sling accusations around and then challenge the average reader to do the research, instead of providing the proof themselves ...tsk tsk.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Aug 21, 2011, at 6:33 PM

I agree with the person who said be happy to have a job. Today's economy is bad enough that just about anyone who has a job is in a better shape than those who don't. Think of all of those people who can't find a job and don't have medical insurance at all. OR, think of those WITH jobs where insurance is not offered at all.

Paying PART of the cost of medical insurance isn't that big of a deal compared to wondering how you would pay the bills with no insurance or no job at all.

Be thankful for what you have since there is always going to be someone else with far less than what you are complaining about.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Tue, Aug 16, 2011, at 4:00 PM

Be thankful you have a job in this economic uncertainity. Sure you may have to help pay for your health insurance but at least you don't have to pay for the whole cost of it.

-- Posted by transplanted on Tue, Aug 16, 2011, at 9:38 AM

It's not just Elmore Hosp. doing that with medical compensation. Many, many places across the nation are changing their medical coverage and requiring the employee to help pay for their own medical insurance. I don't know of many other companies where an employee does not have to pay for medical.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, Aug 16, 2011, at 9:04 AM


In regards to the people who shot down Osama now being dead. The members of Seal Team 6 that killed Osama were not the ones who were shot down. Seal Team 6 is a large organization. It is still sad they had to perish because of some idiots though.

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Mon, Aug 15, 2011, at 1:51 PM

still waitin' for an answer...

Out of respect for Roy wanting to keep his blogs on topic, I will ask you here: what in the world are you getting at, OB? Your quote follows--

"Does anyone else find it interesting that those who were involved in the killing of Osama are now dead? Does that not sound fishy to anyone else?"

-- Posted by MrMister on Fri, Aug 12, 2011, at 7:29 PM

I really like how the paper found its way to fix the poll question. They offer Dems, Reps, Reps minus the Tea party, Ind, and Other. The Mountain Home News must have so many Liberals running it they are afraid to give the people the choice to pick the Tea Party. I guess other is where the Tea Party falls so that is where I put my vote. I'm a Constitutionalist and Tea Party Member it's a shame it has to be Dem, Reps, or Ind as the only choices.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Aug 11, 2011, at 3:36 PM

ýNot sure of the author (and made a couple of changes to a few words), but how funny........and true.......future is scary!

5000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your 'donkeys' and camels, and I will lead you into the Promise Land."

When welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your 'rear ends', and light up a Camel, this IS the Promise Land."

Today, the government has stolen your shovel, taxed your 'rear ends', raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promise Land to China.

-- Posted by roosterz on Thu, Aug 11, 2011, at 12:04 AM

Brenda, may I apologize to you and rephrase the post? Simply cut and pasted as I received it.

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Aug 10, 2011, at 12:30 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
Yep!! Just take out the dreaded horses "rear end"!! Have a good one! B

Ok, so I've posted something on this thing twice, and twice it's been removed. I've read more name-calling, bickering and offensive things on this thing than what I had posted. PULEEEEEZE!! Give me a break. I've lived here for 19 years, and those with the "power" certainly do use it to their advantage. Think I'll just start tagging the posts that I find offensive, which could probably be a daily occurance!!! What a crock.......

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Aug 10, 2011, at 12:14 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
I just sent you a personal email. As I said there I found great humor and truth in your quote/joke but it had a cuss word in it as little as it may seem. Sorry! You will find yourself very busy tagging offensive comments because we have some not so nice comments made back and forth to each other. If we were in grade school several would end up in the bad boy corner but we are adults on here! Lol. Have a pleasant day.


Just think how much could be saved if everyone receiving welfare, food stamps, etc. were required to pass drug tests every few months, or so in order to receive benefits??? I'm not against these programs at all, when they are used for their intended purposes and not abused, as they are by so many today.

-- Posted by roosterz on Wed, Aug 10, 2011, at 11:48 AM

Momof 2graduates: I'm in the same boat as you. No problem with your post at all.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Wed, Aug 10, 2011, at 6:54 AM

BTW forgot to mention before I was laid off husband and I decide to refinance our home. At that time we had a great value on our home..but lord did that go in the tank. Just glad we refinanced. But still playing catch up.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Tue, Aug 9, 2011, at 11:17 PM


I Understand that everything is going UP^^^^ how are we going to catch up..I did't say anything on one thing or group just thought would throw this out there.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Tue, Aug 9, 2011, at 11:11 PM

FYI: Idaho Property Taxes are used to pay for schools, cities, counties, local law enforcement, fire protection, highways, libraries, and more. The state oversees local property tax procedures to make sure they comply with Idaho laws.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, Aug 9, 2011, at 10:41 PM

Yep, my house payment went up $87.00 per month but I received a letter that my house/property value dropped $14K. I love the government math, they say you have less but must pay more. This is what will keep happening as long as the average (actual) taxpayers keep getting raped by the freeloaders and the politicians that protect them.

Stop all Welfare, Food Stamps, Forign Aid, and Wars now. Bring our troops home and protect our boarders. Anyone on Food stamps or welfare needs to take the illegals jobs in the fields after we deport them. You can't find a job within 1 year then guess what, you can get paid minimal wage in the same fields. Guess what incentive they will have to actually look for a job.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Aug 9, 2011, at 2:35 PM

Well got statement for new house payment. Went up $50.00 per month. Just got back to work after looking and applying for 18 months we are playing catch up.

Now we have to figure out where to scratch together another $50.00. Thank you too those that voted yes but pay nothing.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Mon, Aug 8, 2011, at 10:15 PM

Oh NOoooooo! The Sinclair station is switching to ethanol added fuel. What will the mighty warrior do now?

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Mon, Aug 8, 2011, at 2:24 PM

Out of respect for Roy wanting to keep his blogs on topic, I will ask you here: what in the world are you getting at, OB? Your quote follows--

"Does anyone else find it interesting that those who were involved in the killing of Osama are now dead? Does that not sound fishy to anyone else?"

'member darlin, paranoia will destroya

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Aug 7, 2011, at 7:17 PM

I wanted to put a public thanks to Jon Michal and Lorraine, the owners of Sears. For two years in a row they have sponsored a motorcycle ride in conjunction with the Green Knights Chapter #30 of Mt Home AFB. Not only do they say they support the local military population but they show it every year by sponsoring events such as this. Not only did they provide a location to meet, but they promoted safe motorcycle riding and lastly, some really great door prizes. I look forward to being a part of this ride for many years to come. Even if you don't ride, come out next year and see some nice looking motorcycles and thanks a few of our local heroes, the military.

-- Posted by Old guy on Sun, Aug 7, 2011, at 8:15 AM

I would like to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH to the man and his mother who found my daughters quaker parrot and returned her to us today, you made her day she was crying tears of joy and carried her around most of the evening we will be forever GRATEFUL!

-- Posted by SReynolds on Tue, Aug 2, 2011, at 9:45 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Awesome!! I am so glad your feathered family member is home. I know how we feel about our animals.




JULY 14, 2011, 4:30 P.M.

Before opening the meeting, President Marsha Sellers made a motion to amend the agenda to include the following item: "Agenda Item: Discussions with CLDC Chairman Mark Hiddleston regarding YMCA progress towards Feasibility Study and other developments." Motion was seconded by Director Mollie Marsh. Motion carried.


Mollie Marsh



TECHNICAL: James Smith

PUBLIC LIAISON: Betty Ashcraft

GUESTS: Mark Hiddleston

Geoff Schroeder

Brian Orban

Teri Smith

A Special Board Meeting of the Board of Directors of the Western Elmore County Recreation District was called to order at 4:30 p.m. by President Sellers.

I. Quorum

President Sellers established that there was a quorum with Director Marsh and herself present.

II. Summary of Meeting

President Sellers opened the meeting by introducing guest speaker Mark Hiddleston, CLDC Chairman. He gave the Directors a synopsis of the latest developments with talks between the CLDC and YMCA, and the status of the Capital Campaign Feasibility Study. The following points are the highlights:


Cost of Feasibility Study. Mr. Hiddleston said the initial estimate to conduct the Feasibility Study was between $60,000 to $80,000. After discussions with the YMCA and Shaw Snow and Associates, the cost was reduced to around $25,000.



A design of the planned recreation center needs to be done before the Feasibility Study is conducted. Mr. Hiddleston stated that the YMCA wanted to have a design for the proposed recreation center prepared after the Capital Campaign Feasibility Study was completed. However, the CLDC disagreed, stating that they were not comfortable going out to the public in search of donations without a drawing of the center in place beforehand. The CLDC recommended hiring an architect to design the building. Mr. Hiddleston recommended that the WECRD hire Stan Olson to draw up the design. Director Marsh said that a contract will need to be signed between the District and Stan Olson before he does any architectural design.


Mr. Hiddleston recommended drawing up a design that does not include any pools because the costs to construct and operate a pool are cost-prohibitive at this time. Mr. Hiddleston declared that there is much support in the community for this recreation center, but the public wants to see this center constructed now instead of waiting the additional time necessary to save enough funds to construct the pools. The CLDC envisions building a center that has everything contained in the Option 3 of the facility component study minus the pools. The pool could be an option for a future date, but building as soon as possible is the top priority.


Consider building the Center with the funds currently available. The Recreation District currently has saved just under 2 million dollars. The WECRD has met all federal requirements to access the $579,000 in available HUD funds, to be used for recreation center planning, design and construction.


The YMCA is researching any available funding or grants that could be used for the Mountain Home recreation center.


A new committee of the CLDC will be formed for Phase II of the project. Mark Hiddleston has gathered a list of names of local business people who have volunteered to be on this committee.


Build only what is affordable and will be used by the community. As an example, Mr. Hiddleston remarked that the Y recently built a center in Wood River (Sun Valley area) that was too large for the area. They are now "running ithe red" because they have not attracted enough members for sustaina


A Capital Campaign will make donations from outside the community possible.


Discussion included the need for aquatics for rehabilitation. Director Marsh suggested that the CLDC look at the Idaho Athletic Clubs in Boise for ideas on how to include a small pool. Director Marsh asked about the time frame for adding a pool to the facility.




President Sellers requested that Mr. Hiddleston contact the Y to see if they want a Special Meeting with the WECRD. She also offered the use of the WECRD meeting room for any CLDC committee or Y meetings.

III. Audience Discussion:

Betty Ashcraft: Ms. Ashcraft reported that the Recreation Foundation of Elmore County was set up to accept philanthropic donations. She also stated that the HUD funds can be used to pay for an architect.

Teri Smith: Ms. Smith remarked that the public should be kept informed about every step in the process with information on the WECRD website, newspaper articles and Town Hall Meetings.

Geoff Schroeder: Mr. Schroeder remarked that the District should move forward with this project immediately and said that the City Council will support the process every step of the way.

Brian Orban: Mr. Orban suggested that the WECRD look into funding commuter vans for residents to ride to the air base and use the base pool. Mr. Hiddleston replied that this idea is probably not feasible due to the tight security restrictions the base has. He also said that research has shown that people are not inclined to use fitness centers if the traveling distance to get to them is more than ten minutes.

IV. Adjournment

There being no further business to discuss or comments from the audience, President Sellers moved to adjourn the meeting. Director Marsh seconded the motion. Motion passed, and the meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.



Approved: as written as amended



-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Jul 31, 2011, at 10:46 PM

Some people think they know it all. They invite opposition to their opinion and when it gets too hot they change the subject (with another not so subtle invite). Problem is, the subject always changes, but the story NEVER does.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Jul 31, 2011, at 6:22 PM

Yesterday my daughters parrot flew out of our house and has been missing ever since, tonight somebody and the public pool found her and said they were taking her to animal control so my husband and daughter went over by the pound and sat for a good hour waiting for this man to show up. If you happened to be at the public pool tonight and have crazy my daughters quaker parrot please contact us ASAP I don't care what time it is she is absolutely heart broken you can reach us at 587-3764 or 598-3742 we have pictures that we can show you to prove she is ours. Thanks!

-- Posted by SReynolds on Fri, Jul 29, 2011, at 8:55 PM

Its a shame knucklehead that you post your idiotic thoughts on here...Try living after someome u know and love commits suicide. Its no treat. Some people arent stong mentally. Its a true illness. I think your posts should removed. And I do have presonal experience with suicide. Theres no excuse for drinking and driving. Also no excuse for being an insensitive idiot either. This young man had alot of tragedy and pain in his life, while some was because of his own actions it still doesnt mean you have the right to speak ill of someone when you have NO IDEA what it was like for him. And now his family will have to read stupid crap like what you wrote. Must be wonderful to lead such a charmed life.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Wed, Jul 27, 2011, at 8:24 AM

jdcb...please consider this.....what is ol' Speedy was doing 75 in a 25 (which he was), was drinking (which he was), and accidently ran into a vehicle with a family in it. Better yet, what song would you be singing if he killed or maimed one of your friends or loved ones? Then, how would you feel, if Jeret called his lawyer (which he did) and plead NOT GUILTY (WHICH HE DID) to both counts he was charged with! It is sad that these people with fame think they are above the law, then have the balls to plead not guilty to something they were clearly guilty of! I guess jeret realized he wasnt going to skirt this one and figured his best way out was a gun.....It is a shame!

-- Posted by bloodyknuckles on Tue, Jul 26, 2011, at 8:17 PM

I see you waited until the bad news came this evening to reply to my post. I did not post this assuming he would take his own life. I am actually delightful person, although, I cant stand to see a public figure who has an impact on peoples lives, namely children, act like a child. This is not the first time this guy has been in trouble. We need to stop sensationalizing people like this. PS...I dont feel bad for him, it was his choice to take his own life.

-- Posted by bloodyknuckles on Tue, Jul 26, 2011, at 6:25 PM

bloody knuckles, you sound like such a delightful, encouraging person. I imagine you are happy tonight. Not me, I'm sad and feel badly for Jerret and his family.

-- Posted by jdcb on Tue, Jul 26, 2011, at 5:19 PM

Jeret "Speedy" Peterson was arrested on DUI in Hailey Idaho recently. Once a loser always a loser. What a douche! Thanks for representing Idaho well Jeret! Go climb under a rock and stay there man!

-- Posted by bloodyknuckles on Tue, Jul 26, 2011, at 7:53 AM


-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Jul 25, 2011, at 8:57 AM

Why is there no news on Tom Berry's arrest? It's news on KTVB Boise. He was arrested for Domestic Battery and malicious damage to property.

-- Posted by Moanah on Mon, Jul 25, 2011, at 8:25 AM

"Hit dog"indeed! Watch out folks, there's a new yelper in town.

-- Posted by MrMister on Mon, Jul 25, 2011, at 1:08 AM

Am wondering why a pool scene on this homepage is shone to depict the upcoming activity of the YMCA/WECRD when the news article itself states plainly--thank all that's good--that there most definitely WILL NOT be a pool?

-- Posted by senior lady on Thu, Jul 21, 2011, at 10:46 AM


Spot on !

-- Posted by Pale Ale on Wed, Jul 20, 2011, at 1:53 PM

Mr.M - Can't tell from your post, what are you talking about?

-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Jul 20, 2011, at 8:28 AM

The sky is most definitely falling...funny how some people conveniently change the subject and/or use diversionary tactics when proven wrong.

What a mighty (wannabee) group of saviors we have in Mtn. Home.

-- Posted by MrMister on Tue, Jul 19, 2011, at 10:36 PM

For those who haven't noticed yet, the construction that was scheduled to begin in June on Eastbound I-84 has started. Basically from Stage Stop to the tower 8 miles outside of Mountain Home. Lowered speeds of 45 & 55 in that area for both East & Westbound traffic.

-- Posted by VicVega on Mon, Jul 18, 2011, at 4:06 PM


AEHI back in the news. SEC to amend original Complaint and add charges.

And time will tell.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Jul 17, 2011, at 4:53 PM

Transplanted the intersection of N. 10th E. and E. 8th N will be repaved next summer when they pull out the storm drain for scheduled maintenance.

-- Posted by The Dude2011 on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 10:49 AM

Just curious I thought the fixing of N. 10th E. was supposed to include the intersection of N. 10th E. and E. 8th N. Is it going to be done at another time or is that all she wrote as far as that section of street repair. So glad to read that Jasmine is alive and well and will be heading back to ID soon. So glad this story had a happy ending as far as her being found alive.

-- Posted by transplanted on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 7:10 PM

The community has lost one of its best, Chuck Devol. Much love to Judi and family.

-- Posted by senior lady on Mon, Jul 11, 2011, at 11:23 AM

And thank you to all the Streetwalkers who donate their time and effort to walk the streets every Wednesday night to collect $ for the firework show.....

-- Posted by wintersnow on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 12:38 PM

What a great fireworks display! Great job to the Mountain Home Fire Department, Rural Fire Department, Mountain Home Police,Elmore County Sherriff's Department and our local EMS crew. You all rock!

-- Posted by twestall on Tue, Jul 5, 2011, at 10:17 PM

I called the non-emergency number before I went to bed that evening and asked why no one came out. The dispatcher told me that the officer did a drive by and did not see anything so he didn't even stop. I reminded her I would sign and that I did want to talk the officer. She told me well there wasn't anything out there when he went by. Tomorrow night I will have my phone ready to video them if I have too, then I have proof if they catch the pastures on fire.

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Jul 4, 2011, at 12:47 AM

Workingbee.....call the prosecutors office on Tuesday. What they did is called a fail to act...it's actually a criminal charge. Unless they can come up with a really good reason, they violated the law. The part about having you sign a citation is total BS. THe deputy could have come out and acutally SEEN the fireworks and cited the person without you ever having to see a deputy! Sorry you live in Elmore County, the apathy in the law enforcement community statewide is almost epidemic.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Sat, Jul 2, 2011, at 10:55 PM

Oh, how we feel so left out that we invite past nemisi to fill the gap in our confrontational little world.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jul 2, 2011, at 10:00 PM

Well Thank You Elmore County Sheriffs for not showing up or even calling me back... Tonight at 10 pm my neighbor was shooting off fireworks that where as tall as his trees... my other neighbors horse were going crazy. I told the dispatchers I would sign a citation. They were sending someone because I would sign and I did not want my pasture in flames..what happened NOTHING... I WAITED THREE HOURS for an officer to show. the neighbor with the fireworks went to bed (I suppose)...... wow, not even a phone call back from the dispatcher saying they are delayed. NOTHING.. THANKS ELMORE COUNTY SHERIFF FOR NOT SHOWING UP, 3 HOURS LATER.. I AM GOING TO BED TOO

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Jul 2, 2011, at 1:14 AM

Speaking of water, Does anyone know who to call for bulk water delivery for a swimming pool? Thank you.

-- Posted by maybeso on Fri, Jul 1, 2011, at 2:47 PM

I would think with all the vehicles and all the employees the local school district has, that they would drive by West Elementary and see the sprinkler system is screwed up. One circuit has been on all day today.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, Jun 29, 2011, at 5:51 PM

It's a sad state of affairs when a country hosts a foreign team in a sporting event, yet the the fan base favors the foreign team. Wonder if INS will be there to take attendance.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jun 25, 2011, at 1:34 PM

MH Bouncer

Oh you and I should get together for coffee!! My ex hasnt worked or paid supporet for years and his license is suspended for this same thing and he pleaded it down twice. YET...he still pays no support and no consequences. The

children/custodial parents have NO rights when it comes to Child Support Services here in Idaho. They will not answer any questions or do a thing to help you. Its all about the rights and privacy of the deadbeat. The system is broken. Throw them in jail..he ll get a job then! But no...if he isnt working we cant make him pay....

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Fri, Jun 24, 2011, at 8:28 PM

@Mr.Mister...that is what happens in court when dead beat dads don't pay their child support and get their license suspended. They get stopped and cited/arrested. They go to court and they courts allow them to plea it down to this. I know because my wife's ex has been stopped and arrested enough times for this that it's a felony. But everytime they plea it down and she still receives no support from this slug.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Fri, Jun 24, 2011, at 6:41 PM

I guess I have a question for the chief. Is the officer in question salaried or does he get an hourly rate? If it is hourly was he "on the clock" when he was practicing the manuevers? The true way to answer that is, would he have received workman's comp if he had crashed and gotten injured? If the answer is no, then you knowingly...and admittedly...allowed him to perform work related functions without compensation. This is against state labor laws. According to your comment the officer apparently wasn't on the clock as you said he would now be given time while on duty to practice. This now leads us down to the fact that if the officer was indeed "working" then was he compensated? If not then he now has a case against the city for overtime. The other side of this is what does your own policy manual say about officers using city owned vehicles while off duty?

I was a Chief of Police and I can tell you now, you have painted yourself into a corner by being drawn into the arguments here on the BB. My advice would be to read the blogs and then ask your officers WHY these charges (rumors) are being thrown around then take care of it. To come onto the BB and engage in any argument falls well below what would expected of a Chief. Take the advice for what it is but you have made yourself look foolish.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Fri, Jun 24, 2011, at 6:38 PM

I've noticed a common theme the last few YEARS with respect to those "failing to purchase" a valid driver's license as noted in this newspaper--indicative of a failed policy?

-- Posted by MrMister on Thu, Jun 23, 2011, at 11:54 PM

Chief Walter,

You write "If you know me at all after 3 1/2 years, I am not afraid to admit when we have room to improve and I am not afraid to hold our servants accountable for their actions both on and off duty(ask those who no longer work here).

But it is troubling when folks make comments that question the integrity of lots of fine men and women who work hard to keep this community safe, but never call so we can handle the matter or give us an opportunity to share what we know to fill in the holes left by the rumors they hear."

I say:

I have not known you for 3 1/2 years; I have only had the pleasure of knowing you for a matter of months. In my opinion from my meetings with you, you are in fact afraid to hold your officers accountable for their actions. In my personal experience you have allowed one particular officer to complete an accident report incorrectly and refused to have the report corrected even after being presented with evidence showing what corrections were needed.

I say:

I have in fact followed the correct procedures required from speaking with the officer in question all the way to the city council and have gotten not an ounce of consideration on the matter, have learned that sweeping problems under the rug must be easier than having an officer or those above him admit to a mistake leading the matter being drawn out into months for what could have been dealt with in minutes.

I have been as respectful as possible, I believe respect is to be earned not given just because of the title one holds.

You have my number if you want to call me!

Susan McCallum

-- Posted by McCallumS on Wed, Jun 22, 2011, at 3:34 PM


And yet more supporting information on why nuclear energy is not safe.

Congrats to the morons in Payette who approved the AEHI re-zone. Follow the money. Early in the week I had to laugh at the news story Don did on "cheap power" for Idaho. Funny. In all meetings held on this---AEHI Don has made no secret that power will go to the highest bidder. Idaho is not known for paying a premium for their power so it is not likely ANY of the power will stay in Idaho. Sure glad we get all of the nuke waste. Hope it is all worth it folks. More AEHI lies and Don G. bull.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Jun 21, 2011, at 9:29 PM

Trucker Man, MHG and now Lucky 45:

Since all three of you seem to know more about what is transpiring than I do, please give me a call and share. What I do know as a fact and not a rumor is that MHPD personnel arrested their own Chief for driving drunk prior to my arrival and they have arrested a retired employee since my arrival, so what "family member" we have reportedly let drive drunk would be interesting to hear.

There is currently an accident being investigated by the Sheriff's Office relating to an accident in their jurisdiction. If that is what you are referring to, then again, give me a call or call the Sheriff. While MHPD is not investigating the crash, I am confident the SO will do their job and thoroughly handle the matter and determine what if any charges are warranted.

If you know me at all after 3 1/2 years, I am not afraid to admit when we have room to improve and I am not afraid to hold our servants accountable for their actions both on and off duty(ask those who no longer work here).

But it is troubling when folks make comments that question the integrity of lots of fine men and women who work hard to keep this community safe, but never call so we can handle the matter or give us an opportunity to share what we know to fill in the holes left by the rumors they hear.

I await your calls. If you don't call, then you are probably right, I can't address rumors without information.

Chief Walter

-- Posted by Chief Walter on Tue, Jun 21, 2011, at 2:31 PM

To trucker man & mhg4316 know exactly what you are talking about and it is a shame that nothing is being done and nothing probably will be done. I guess it really is who you know in this town. You were right on when you said if you say anything there will be.........

I really hope that who ever ends up taking over Walters job, they sit back and take a hard look at their department and whats going on there.

-- Posted by Lucky45 on Tue, Jun 21, 2011, at 1:08 PM

Just checked the Statesman again:

Semi rollover blocked eastbound I-84 lanes near Mountain Home early Sunday

Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman

The eastbound lanes of Interstate 84 were shut down for five hours early Sunday morning after a truck crashed near Mountain Home.

A Washington state man driving a tractor trailer went off the road into the median about 12:38 a.m.. The driver came back onto the roadway, overcorrected and the truck rolled, according to a release from the Idaho State Police.

The truck landed on its side, blocking both lanes and the emergency lane. The driver was transported to Elmore Regional Medical Center in Mountain Home where he was treated and released.

-- Posted by senior lady on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 6:55 PM

Thanks -- Son was wondering. He was diverted via Simco Road and took the long way round to get home. Hope no one was hurt.

-- Posted by senior lady on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 4:03 PM

I think it was a semi blocking the lanes

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 3:53 PM

What closed down the Interstate in the wee hours this morning (Sunday?

-- Posted by senior lady on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 3:00 PM

Old guy:

Come one really you didn't see the sarcasm in the comment... it was a joke, before taking something so literally find the humor in it. Not everyone on this post is here has to complain about everything they see. Honestly I kinda thought citizen uno might complain since in all reality I was poking fun at him. I for one don't really care that cop is riding his bike off duty brushing up on his skills, I just think he could use a newer nicer bike (hence the huffy comment). I will attempt to be a little more blunt just to clarify my previous comment

The Complaint by citizen uno that our public funds are being misused blah blah blah


Spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 9:19 AM


You say bad on the MHPD and leadership but I say what a great way to save our tax dollars. I saw this officer several times today and you could see the pride he had riding that 1992 bike. It sure was nice to see an older bike like that one being used as intended.

-- Posted by Old guy on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 9:33 PM

I'll tell you what the gross misuse of public funds are Mr. John Walter... He rides 1992 Kawasaki good lord you might as well give the poor guy a huffy!!! It might be faster.

Spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 12:16 PM

I would like to say Happy Fathers Day on Sunday to all the gentleman and especially my Dad, Husband, Sons and sons-in-law!! Sorry, the family ones are especially very dear to my heart and get special mention! Please have a wonderful time with family and if you can't be together hold them close in your mind and hearts. God bless all our Dad Troops and Moms away from their loved ones so that we again can celebrate another freedom. B

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 4:11 PM

So, Last night I sat down and wrote in this banter box. I apologize to almost everyone for the banter I submitted.

Brenda you have a very tedious task as the Banter Box Mother hen.

"Do the right thing, Even when on one is watching",

-- Posted by Roy "Lynn" McCallum on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 11:55 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
Thank you and cluck cluck. Later, B

More on that trial:


-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 3:57 PM

Orozco in court today:


-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 12:14 PM

I thought that everyone could use a laugh today so I am sharing my short film that my team and I wrote, filmed and edited in 48 hours fo the i48 film festival. Take a moment to watch it and have a laugh.


-- Posted by kimkovac on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 7:22 AM


If you are truly interested about how tax dollars are being spent and feel what you have witnessed is a gross misuse of public funds and equipment I truly hope you will call me so we can both learn more about what it is you are referring to. Since you have not done that but instead have thrown this out for public consumption, I'd be happy to provide a few facts I would have shared if you had of called:

1. The officer in question has NEVER destroyed a police motorcycle. In fact, no officer since my arrival has destroyed any motorcycle or any other vehicle we operate.

2. The motorcycle this officer rides is a 1992 Kawasaki and he does a fairly decent job of maintaining it and gently treating it so we can extend it's already long life. Just a few nights ago he adjusted the carb on the motorcycle and was riding it at slow speeds to ensure it was operating properly.

3. Motor officers attend training where they learn to maneuver their motorcycles at low speeds (2 to 3 mph)while going in circles, figure 8's, etc. If you watch them operate at AFAD or other events you'll understand why these are important skills to keep sharp.

4. The officer informs me he has been practicing those skills on his own time and as a result does not put his uniform on to practice. I have informed the employee that while his intentions are noble, they have obviously been misunderstood and we have discussed other opportunities for him to practice while on duty. If he is continuing to "almost" lay it over then obviously he needs to continue to practice! (Although he would argue not dropping it at such low speeds is proof he is continuing to improve)

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that most citizens would label operating a motorcycle at 2 to 3 mph while navigating a driveway or narrow county road as a gross misuse of public funds or equipment. If you still do after reading this I appreciate your viewpoint and certainly acknowledge your right to form that opinion. I would however again ask you call me as you have my number (587-2104) and I have no idea who you are.

Chief John Walter


-- Posted by Chief Walter on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 8:06 AM

MrMister: I suspect the consternation voiced in your post was aimed towards OpinionMissy? I respect your opinion but it seems like she has presented some interesting info. For those of us who are too lazy or disinterested in how our local government agencies conducts business, the presented information might just light a fire under a few people to get interested and take action. On the other hand, it just takes 1 second to read who made a post and ignore it.

As far as Meeting Minutes not being published on the WECRD website? We see this occasionally on the City website and quite often on the County website. It would be nice if regular people could go to the meetings and report what they see and hear on their own website. But if enough people were truly interested and made some noise about Meeting Minutes NOT being published, I suspect our local government agencies/officials would get it posted in a timely manner. Why go the extra mile when only 2 people in the entire county care?

Overall, I don't know why the citizens would care about what their local government is doing. Who cares what the government does with your taxes....who care if they want to build a nuke plant 10 miles away...who cares if an organization wants to sue the City. Boring stuff, all of it. Or is it?

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sun, Jun 12, 2011, at 7:57 PM

Just found this very interesting and thought all you fine citizens of the City of Mountain Home would like to know where some of your tax dollars are being spent and how the items that money was used for are being treated. I have a neighbor that lives down the raod from me that just happens to be a City of Mountain Home Police Officer and is a Bike Cop. I have now witnessed him on several occassions riding his Police issued motorcycle while off duty and out of uniform. The part that bugs me most about this is this particular officer has all ready destroyed 1 bike by laying it down. The other evening I witnessed him out on a county road out in front of his house riding that Police Issued motorcycle in a circle. Now while watching him he almost layed the bike down numerous times, yet continued to do it and then proceeded to continue doing the same thing in his driveway and yet again almost layed it down several times. Now in my opinion I feel that this is a gross misuse of public funds and equipment, but I'll let you be the judge of that!

-- Posted by citizen1 on Sun, Jun 12, 2011, at 7:39 PM

Oh Gawd! Here we go for round 3...or is it 4? I can't remember. Which round did you quit after last time??? Do us all a favor and keep it on your blog, blowhard.

-- Posted by MrMister on Sun, Jun 12, 2011, at 6:31 PM

So. A message to the WECRD Board. Kindly update your web page with current info such as Meeting Minutes. The deadline for "Let's Play" applications has long since passed...so perhaps update that as well. That is an expensive web paage, paid for by us, as taxpayers and I do not think it is beyond reason, with this being June, that Meeting Minutes other than January SHOULD be posted.

Unless of course you folks have something to hide such as maybe the results or cost of the feasibility study that should have been completed by now (per Mark Hiddleston)or the fact that is once again time for you gals to do the annual budget. Which reminds me. Each group the WECRD gave money to for Let's Play was to provide financial reports on how the money was spent. When I went into your office, only one group had done so. I certainly hope that more money was not given to any group for 2011 that did not provide financials as required.

So, what are you gals up to now? So much for keeping the public informed Marsha. More lip service. Now the journey begins to find out what you all have attempted to keep secret. With more office staff one would think the info or bull would flow better. We too can dream as the tax paying public.

One last thought. Per Idaho Code, you are to provide recreation to all within the district. So far, you provide for the select few. Illegal as heck. Perhaps the law firm representing the church would help us prove fraud, etc. Just something to think about.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jun 11, 2011, at 10:16 PM

Here is the most wonderful video I have seen in literally years. The lady in the video is such an inspiration and she really makes you feel good when the interview is completed. She is just a total joy to watch.


I hope I have copied and pasted the link correctly so you all can watch.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, Jun 11, 2011, at 9:44 PM

Wow! A second year teacher wins top educator in MH. Seems like the youngins round these parts talked about younger teachers being a disadvantage to our district and stated they would hurt their education as they lacked experience. Seems like these younger and less "crusty" teachers may be just what the MHSD needs. Sometimes the less experienced have a fresh eye and can provide new, fresh ideas as opposed to the same old stuff of those who have been around forever.

Nice job sir on your award and congrats. I am sure you earned every moment of that recognition. Enjoy it and good luck to you. The MHSD and your students are lucky to have you.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Jun 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM

I see Job Service Listing an opening for a Police Chief in Mtn. Home, Thought we had a Chief, and a pretty good one.

-- Posted by R&M on Thu, Jun 9, 2011, at 9:21 PM

Been here for 31years. And yes, shifty 50 is a well known name in town. Yes, it does seem they pretty much do what they want and for the good of their own needs and friends. But, hopefully you did state facts and not 3rd party info.

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Jun 9, 2011, at 7:42 PM

Church update:


-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Jun 8, 2011, at 7:54 PM

Did any of you last 3 who commented go to the CC meetings?

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Jun 8, 2011, at 5:40 PM

Based on todays article, doesn't look like many showed up at the public hearings and those that did give Testimony or were neutual didn't make much difference. Between Planning and Zoning and the County Commissioners they make all the rules for the county. We all have seen in the pass, why bother to go to the meetings those people decide what action will be taken, what the public inputs doesn't appear to carry much weight. Why worry if there's not enough water or some pipe dreamers wants to make their money and leave the mess to the other residents of the county. We really need a little Boise like we need a hole in the head. Move it across the line into Ada County and let them pay for it, they can pump the water from Boise to someone elses get rich scheme. This whole mess will do nothing but hurt Mtn Home like we really need another hit on this town.

But what does the public know leave to the people in charge to decide they always know best, maybe it puts money in their pockets. Someday we may get the hint to elect people that work for the public but don't see that coming in the near future.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Jun 8, 2011, at 1:31 PM

You can thank these Commissioners for dropping your home values even further. With all the homes for sale in Mountain Home who will buy them if they build new ones just 15 minutes from Boise? They get a house on the county line half way between Mountain Home and Boise, where do you think they will go shopping, Mountain Home Wal-Mart or Boise's selection of stores? We do get their trash and sewage plus have to build them schools; I can't wait for that Bond/Levy vote. It is almost comical how these commissioners can be bought and sold.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Jun 8, 2011, at 1:25 PM

I know exactly what trucker man is referring to. But you dont want to say anything because there may be reprecussions! Hes right and its CRAP!!!!

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Wed, Jun 8, 2011, at 8:50 AM

Trucker Man,

This sounds like a case of blog and run.

Lets hear the specifics, if you have a story to tell let everyone in on it.

-- Posted by Old Vet on Tue, Jun 7, 2011, at 5:14 PM

how come the cops in this town get away with leting their families drive drunk but yet they turn around and arrest people for doing the same thing.

-- Posted by Trucker Man on Tue, Jun 7, 2011, at 9:11 AM

AEHI, still at it with their lie's


I like this one LOL


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Jun 7, 2011, at 2:59 AM

Don't have enough to say about it to warrant writing a letter to the paper, but last week's letter complaining about senior celebration kind of angered me. We were told MONTHS in advance that if we wanted to go to senior celebration, we had to pay and register by a certain date REGARDLESS of whether we had base access or not. All seniors were told multiple times. The students turned away really have no one else to blame- they had to have the list prepared and certain safety measures ready by May 11, and they made that very clear to all.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sun, Jun 5, 2011, at 10:53 PM

Blogs aren't meant to garner attention, they're there to present a point of view and encourage dialogue...

-- Posted by MrMister on Sat, Jun 4, 2011, at 9:41 PM

Do we finally have more churches than bars? Funny how every fifty or so people need a church of their own. Bongos, guitars, smokebombs, whatever happend to the good old organ. We need a government study to find out how many different kind of churches we need. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, babble, babble......have a good day now.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Sat, Jun 4, 2011, at 9:38 PM

If you don't want people crossing the street, do not put a cross walk there. You can't monitor a crosswalk and on the 200th person say "this crosswalk is shut down due to maximum walk capacity" that sounds awful fishy to me.

-- Posted by Whitfield on Sat, Jun 4, 2011, at 8:00 PM

If you want to know everything you need to know about crosswalks, take a look at the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices. Its about 350 pages thick, and you can find it on the internet.

-- Posted by ltngblt on Sat, Jun 4, 2011, at 7:41 PM

I'm so glad that the ppl of mtn. Home know everything. Lol I say if yyou don't know the truth go ask city council what happened. If they knew that they were right why isn't city council fighting back? Something went on at the meetings to get them to this point. The last city council meeting I went to they told no limits that the cross walk that is in front of the building was never intended to allow so many people to cross it. Since when did there become a limit on where you can cross a street!? I got facts but I don't need the drama of people bickering back and forward on an issue that they don't know anything about.

-- Posted by Mtnhomian on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM

Goodness, that is a mess!

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 1:50 PM

Curious Parent,

It was orginally set up as both, yet due to the fact that not all the paperwork was completed the P & Z went ahead with letting them set up everything, but it was not to be used as a church till all documents for parking were in place. However, it appears that they ignored what the P & Z wanted and have set up the church as well. This was basically putting the cart before the horse. The P & Z should have told them "No" you can't use the building until all parking documents are completed. What a mess.

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 1:28 PM

Thank you!

So, this was originally supposed to be a counseling center, and now it is wanting approval to be used as a church? Sounds like that's what should have been asked for approval in the first place.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 12:37 PM

Curious Parent,

I think the last church to have approval was the Catholic church across from Hacker Middle School. This approval for a new annex and parking lot was the result of several businesses moving or closing for good. Our city council needs to think before they approve these things. The fact that "No Limits" set up house as a counseling ministry is silly to say the least. That building can hold a whole lot of people, how big are the counseling sessions???

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 12:00 PM


Which was the last church in town that was approved?


-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jun 3, 2011, at 11:00 AM

So the recent Mayfield approval is not news or is it not online yet? Yet another example of follow the money.

Why are we acting shocked that this church has filed suit? The City of MH paved (get it) the way for that when they approved the last church. So now let us not act shocked that those dirty deeds have come back to bite some in the ole boxers. What shocks me is that it took so long for someone to sue. When the rules are bent for some it opens the doors for the rules to be bent by all.

As for "No Limits" and their suit. What a WASTE of tax dollars. But I guess if you do not pay into it...it does not matter.

Perhaps all sides can learn from this. Now you will see how the legal system works outside of MH and with the big guns. This is what happens when rules are changed for the few. CHA CHING!!!!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Jun 2, 2011, at 10:12 PM

Come on Weather. Please at least 80 so my flowers bloom. Or better yet not have to turn our heat back on. This has got to be the coldest spring I've seen since I've been here. Husband said there was another like this almost 15 years ago.

80's so my flowers bloom all kinds of buds but no flowers.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, Jun 2, 2011, at 9:00 PM

oops - ltngblt

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 10:01 PM


It appears that one of your comments, and mine supporting it, have been removed so I'll try again........AMEN!! If removed again, I'll post it again........MY religious freedom! Would hate to have to sue MHN for violating my freedoms. (jk, MHN) I'M offended that they can actually sue over such nonsense.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 9:59 PM

Good question. Not sure. What did you find out? I would think that they would get amounts per student or size of school just as the regular public schools. Anyone out there know the answer to this? Where would we look to find the answer?

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 7:49 PM

CP and Midea,

Does the state give more or less money to a school for a high risk student then a non high risk student?

Might make a difference when it comes to living within a budget

-- Posted by luvmthome on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 5:23 PM

I applaud the administration and teachers at McKenna. They know how to budget, live within those means, and at the same time are able to motivate kids to learn. Thank you for your over-the-top efforts and achievements at McKenna School.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM


Thank you for posting the information. I was only aware of some of your school's accomplishments, but it is nice to see the information in black and white. I think you have a wonderful concept and many districts could learn from your business plans and the discipline in which you teach your students.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 12:18 PM

Oh, and the story leaves out the fact that those good christian followers at No Limits really do believe there are no limits, as they want $75 million from the city! I think I'm gonna go start me a congregation so I can get rich and drive me a great big fancy car! What a crock.....

-- Posted by ltngblt on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 11:08 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
thanks, B

Ltngblt - good comment, no cussing! Edit and repost. B

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 11:04 AM

Maybe they should not have come in and set up shop before getting all the necessary permits. And to sue because they were turned down?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Jun 1, 2011, at 7:25 AM

Hey, here's a good christian thing to do, the No Limits Christian Ministries just sued the City of Mountain Home and members of the Board for denying them their conditional use permit. Didn't I read in the News that the issue was one of "parking" and "septic system" concerns?

-- Posted by ltngblt on Tue, May 31, 2011, at 5:09 PM

Lol I was so looking forward to the first long weekend since New Years and the weather is gonna suck. We are taking 5 grandkids camping and it should be an experience. It's the first family camp out of the season. Sure hope we are not locked down in the trailer all weekend. If it was just me and my hubby just hanging out, reading, watching movies, good food and liquid refreshments and lying around it would be perfect! My munchkins prefer a bit more activity. Sure won't be going to Blacksands and swimming and taking the Jet Ski this year. That being said I would like to express my gratitude and heartfelt thanks to the military troops, past and present for my right to complain and my liberties and rights as I have them. I am a military brat, from birth to now and proud of it. My family and friends and every single member in the military forces have sacrificed much to allow me the freedoms I hold dear today. Have a safe and wonderful weekend, hopefully with those you love and keep our soldiers in your hearts.

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:18 AM


Thank you for your response. I think I should just go back to bed for the rest of the week and see if I can do any better next week. LOL. I know; I can just blame it on my old glasses, I got new glasses this week!!!

-- Posted by midea on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 9:11 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
I can totally relate. I blame the glasses and my "maturing" age! B

Not everyone posts the price for disel, so guess going to be up to those that do buy it to keep everyone else up to date on the prices.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM

Haven't checked it out in-depth yet, but the Census Bureau published a report on public education finances.


Utah spends the least per student, and Idaho is next. Idaho relies on the state for roughly 2/3 of their public education funding.

-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 4:00 PM

You are correct. The MHN does post the gas prices, which I think it is great that they put the gas prices on. But, I would like to see the cost of diesel also.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 11:45 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
The diesel prices are there also. We make the route once a week and get all prices that are up. Some do not put up the diesel price. You have to wait until you get up to the pump and then faint. We drive a diesel too and OUCH! The gas prices are on A2 this week. All but 3 diesel are listed and two don't provide diesel fuel. B

I check the MHN each week for the gas prices. It's a great service to the community.

-- Posted by senior lady on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 8:56 AM

Well, we will see if the fuel prices tomorrow are the same as today. Anybody's guess, huh?

-- Posted by midea on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 9:08 PM

Changing the subject.

Fuel prices (Diesel).

Hawleys fuel station on American Legion is at $4.02 for diesel this morning. I believe he is a Shell station. If you don't like Shell then Texaco by Albertsons is $4.09 and Pilot is at $4.2? something.

My son fueled up this a.m. and called to let me know, thought I would pass it on.

Just had a thought, wonder if MHN would be able to post prices. Maybe have a fuel price block on the front page of the online paper. Give the time and date of the comparison. That would be sweet.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 10:04 AM

cant justwatch: I was actually looking for information...and not questioning your post. If you find any official on-line data hopefully you'll share it with us?

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 9:02 AM

Tonight's choir concert was outstanding side of the people talking during the program. Fourth row, next to the man in the wheelchair, you know who you are.

-- Posted by Reserve ID on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 8:35 PM

cant justwatch: Can you pass on how/where you obtained the info in the $10 decrease in property taxes due to the levy not passing. I've looked for this data but came up empty. Thanks!

-- Posted by bondyweb on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 4:49 PM

Observer, You make me think of one of Archie Bunker's favorite phrases.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 11:32 AM

mtnhomelifer - good point! I stand corrected. Always more than one view/perception. Two heads are always better than one.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM

Fairytaleforme you posted this Question this weekend (had just gotten onto I-84 from Eagle Rd. today when I saw the Elmore Sheriff and ISP chasing these nuts.....all the way from Hammett! I understand what they did was illegal, but come on folks..............all these resources and putting so many lives in danger over a tank of gas???) you tell me this, If The officers would have stopped chasing the with held the resources form capturing the subjects and the two subjects came to your house and commited a crime and you found out the police stopped chasing them just before they came to your house, what would you say or do then.. you never know who you have untill you stopp the vehicle and find out, is it a little old lady who didnt relize what she was doing or are they two serial killers that have been chased all over the nation, you never know.

-- Posted by mtnhomelifer on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 5:51 AM

BTW, what is this "Jersey Shore" thing?????

-- Posted by Beau on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 2:23 AM

I concede and stand corrected on the vote tally. However the rest of my analysis is spot on.

-- Posted by Beau on Mon, May 23, 2011, at 2:08 AM

Observer, why is your obsession with television? You try to make a point and then blow it with some obscure reference to a TV show. Just get it over it.

-- Posted by maybeso on Sun, May 22, 2011, at 9:57 PM

For the record (unofficial):

Mountain Home School District

Building Levy

$925,000 a year for five years ($4,625,000)

No - 627 votes - 51%

Yes - 604 votes - 49%


PS: That levy would NOT have raised your taxes, not even one cent.

-- Posted by Observer on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 11:55 PM


You are correct, the levy would not have raised our taxes as things stand now. However, the vote to deny the reauthorization of said levy may leave a few well needed bucks in the pockets of residents of the MHSD. But proponents of defeated levy are free to write a check.......: )

-- Posted by Beau on Sun, May 22, 2011, at 2:53 AM

I had just gotten onto I-84 from Eagle Rd. today when I saw the Elmore Sheriff and ISP chasing these nuts.....all the way from Hammett! I understand what they did was illegal, but come on folks..............all these resources and putting so many lives in danger over a tank of gas???


-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 10:13 PM

What comments about Mckenne weren't factual?

-- Posted by luvmthome on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 10:07 PM


I said Thank You to the OTHER 626 as my no vote made it 627!!!!

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 6:26 PM

If failed due to people have gotten tried of being taxed with the hand always out, the more money the District gets the more they want.

MH News quote on the vote:

The measure needed 55 percent approval to pass, but only received 50.4 percent of the vote, with 627 yes votes and 604 no votes in the initial unofficial tally Tuesday night.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 10:52 AM

"Like 626 responsible voters in Mountain Home tried to do, as opposed to the 604 bent on destroying what's left of education here. Nice going, Idiocrats! Who's up next on Dancing With The Stars, anyway?"

To Observer;

It was 627 who voted against the Rip Off Levy, not 626. If you are saying 626 responsible voters tried to do, by my math, it would have passed. I guess you should run for the school board, or are you a teacher in the MHSD?

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 9:58 AM


OMG!!! MSD to balance their budget since levy failed. Wow. What an idea!

Hint, hint. Wink, wink;)

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 12:48 AM


If the MHSD was run less like the Western Elmore County Rereation District and more like a business and the information being provided by the MHSD was honest...I am sure more people would have voted to support education. When you look at the income levels of many in this community, it is not the will that is lacking it is the ability. People can only pay so much because they only make so much.

Just because people voted against the levy does not make them stupid or anti-education or anti-youth. It is all about being lied to and duped over and over and over again.

But not to worry. They will hold another election, catch the new 18 year olds and get them to vote along with many MHSD employees, it will fail and they will declare an "emergency" and jam it down our throats anyway. That is how it is done MH style.

Now about McKenna. Before some of you spout off with less than factual info you may want to do some research. McKenna is more stable from a financial standpoint than the MHSD. Perhaps something could be learned from that Board. Nay. Why do that? Just raise taxes over and over and over again. BULL!!!!!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, May 21, 2011, at 12:27 AM

Charter schools have the freedom to operate outside many of the rules that govern regular public schools. They operate under funding from per pupil allowance (from taxes) as well as private donations and grants. It probably isn't fair to compare McKenna to MHHS. Different sizes, different class/schedule structures and student rules.I am glad that a community of this size has at least two options in which Students can choose. Students are not all the same- they all have different needs. Mountain Home has much to celebrate- Congratulations to the class of 2011!!!!

-- Posted by juniper on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 10:33 PM

First off teachers are not leaving cause they are not getting raises, they are leaving due to not having a job. (lay offs) My Daughter has a very bad disease and because of the germs at school wich are normal she was not able to go to the school, her teacher took time out of her schedule after school to come to our home and make sure she stayed up with the rest of the class. That is dedication, that is our Moutain home teachers. Yes they get the summers off, except those who teach summer school. I know many teachers who have to work during the summer to make ends meat. I know many teachers who work second jobs to make ends meat, not to mention the grading of papers, parent contacts,numerous e-mails from parents, administrators, Being in school early in the morning, and being there sometimes late into the evening, they need to make a living just like the rest of us. Yes raises for them are nice but all they really want right now is the tools to do their job and for the kids to succeed

-- Posted by mtnhomelifer on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 10:14 PM

My child goes to Mckenna and I will tell you this, they dont pick and choose who goes there. They run the school like a school should be run. Your there to learn and be educated, if not, then you dont need to be there, they dont believe in wasting their time or the students who want to be there to learn. I totally agree with this, school isnt about social time with your friends, your there for one thing, to be educated. They have their golden rules right there on the wall as you enter, if you break them your out, something I wish the other local schools would do. Ive seen way to many mulligans given for issues that should have been expulsions. I applaud McKenna for being student/learning oriented and not "pass the test" status quo that is out there right now. my two cents.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 6:22 PM

Observer...due to the disjointed nature of your post I cannot determine if you were for raising property taxes or against it. But will say that those of you that are so disappointed and in some case bitter about the Levy not passing in Mountain Home can give more money to the district. Open your wallet wide. Some of us cannot afford to give more.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 4:08 PM

You're welcome.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM

sorry about they typos, i thought I saved the correct post

-- Posted by luvmthome on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:49 AM

Why would I call the school, they are no different then any other govt agency, they are going to tell you what you want to hear.

iBut thank you for the link, it the article it said

"The project was financed through U.S. Bank and the funding was acquired through the state general fund."

Sooooooo, I wonder who in our area fought to get funds from the states General Fund to pay for a school. Sounds like the entire state paid for McKenna. I wonder if they would of still been able to get their school built if they didnt have the extra money comming in from the state

-- Posted by luvmthome on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:48 AM


Looks like they took care of their own financing.

As for you other questions, I never claimed to know those answers. Call the schools if you want to know. Better yet, why don't you just call over to McKenna and ask them why they pay their teachers so much?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:34 AM

I was happy before, you don't need to change what you wrote to make me happy.

If they didnt run a levy to build there school, how did they get the money?? Bake sale, Car wash??

Did Mt Home run levies for all there schools?

-- Posted by luvmthome on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:27 AM


I stand by the rest of my statement with replacing "finances" in regards to the salary. Whether or not you can understand my respect for this school is of no concern to me.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:24 AM

Let me rephrase: I do not know why the administrator makes the salary he does.

Happy now?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:13 AM


thats an interesting post,

I do not know anything about McKenna's finances.... I have a great deal of respect for this school and how they manage their business.

How do/can you respect something in (your own words) you dont anything about?

Actually if you go to ouridaho.com, I was shocked to see how much everyone is making at the charter school.

Im just trying to figure out if we are all trying to reduce out tax load why are we allowing all these charters to pop up around our state that can pick and choose what student they want to teach.

-- Posted by luvmthome on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 9:01 AM

I do not know anything about McKenna's finances but I do know that they built their new building without any levies supported by property taxes. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I read that they raised the money themselves and paid for the project when they had enough money.

I have a great deal of respect for this school and how they manage their business.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, May 20, 2011, at 7:33 AM

Old Guy

Loved today..I have been wiping my floors for weeks not to mention the dog track on the grass. Love the rain it is free.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 10:26 PM

Can someone explain how the Administrator of Richard McKenna is making 88,000 this year and they only had twelve graduate.

Why do we have a separate HS if the school is that small?

-- Posted by luvmthome on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 9:45 PM

Wow finally a day without rain and we had some sunshine. Too bad we had the winds but I will take that over the rain anyday. Rain = mud and mud means the dogs bring it into the house.

At every chance I got, I walked outside. Even walked to deliver papers to another office that was a distance away. Anyone else enjoy the day?

-- Posted by Old guy on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 8:47 PM


Wow, you must be an incredibly unhappy person. Attack me when all I have done is try to remind people that anytime we lump groups of people together we are no different than those before us who have tried to find someone to blame all their unhappiness on. This is the kind of attitude I encourage my students to rise above. But I realize anything said opposite of your opinion falls on deaf ears. I am just putting a truth out there for those with open minds to remember.

-- Posted by mh.educated.adult on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 7:55 PM

Pardon me, I didn't realize my friend was logged in (HCOD).

I'm just saying NONE of MY teachers happened to discuss the levy- and I had classes where it would have made some sense to discuss it. I had private conversations with them where we discussed it, and of course since I covered the story for the paper I interviewed them on personal time, but in my classes, I heard NO indoctrination. Please do not lump ALL the teachers or assume that those of us who were speaking up about the issue on the blogs were "indoctrinated".


Did you not read what MH educated SAID. That individual says they do not mind taking a cut (THEY UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT), and they're not asking for more money. Simply put: DO NOT LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER. It isn't logical to lump a group together. That's like saying all Baptists protest military funerals, that all Muslims want to kill "infidels", that all cops are fat and like donuts, etc.

And some of them are also doing the work of four. Have you ever tried to control 30 plus kids in a room, get them to all sit down and be quiet for ninety minutes while you teach something that somewhere around half of them don't care about?

I don't understand where all this anti-teacher sentiment comes from.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 7:51 PM

Go and confront the teachers that are talking about Luna and the levy. If that doesn't work make a complaint. This might be more productive than making the assumption that all teachers are indoctrinating the students. Like any place of work there are a few that don't follow the rules. Enough is enough it is time to stop making all teachers out to be villains.

-- Posted by juniper on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 7:18 PM


Well boo hoo for you. I guess the rest of us poor slobs out in blogville who spent tens of thousands of dollars on OUR educations should get down on bended knee and kiss your feet (cold day by the way).

For the rest of us who are college educated...we have taken it in the shorts FAR-FAR-FAR worse than teachers. Hmmmmmmmm. For those of us lucky enough to have jobs, we now do the work of four people. Why? Because of budget cuts by our employers. In addition to that, we have had pay cuts----multiple pay cuts. In addition, we work more days and more hours for LESS pay. In addition, many of us have lost insurance, vacation and sick pay.

Pardon me but TEACHERS ARE NOT EXEMPT!!!! You folks get 3 months off per year. You are paid better than most. How about if we really make the debate about the kids and find out where in the heck all of the money for all of these years has gone. How about if we make it about budgets and reality? Higher taxes are not the answer.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 7:14 PM

Honestly, I have never had a problem with most of the teacher's pay. I believe cuts need to be made at the administrative level. The teachers are the ones who do most of the work in schools (IMHO) and therefore should receive more pay than the administrators. This never seems to be the case though.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 5:17 PM

You are right. Some of us don't deserve the pay we get. That is true of some doctors, journalists, cashiers, social workers, contractors, and telemarketers. But it is also true of some parents, ministers, police officers, and politicians. Okay...that is established, right? SOME. Please be careful. Not all of us only care about a student's test scores. Not all of us are as evil, selfish, and manipulative as you are making us out to be. Some of us care enough about young people to plan, teach, reteach, comment, encourage, read student work, comment on student work, greet students by name, support them in their extracurricular activities, purchase a variety of items for the classroom, and many other things which rarely bring about "recognition". Why do it? It is the right thing to do. It is the fundamental responsibility of a teacher to do this. Many, many of us do this. We really aren't the enemy, even though I realize based on these blogs that teachers and the school system seem to have become these greedy monsters. Those of you who are upset with the amount of pay we receive, I don't know what to tell you except most of us spent 4 years of our young adulthood paying through the nose for a degree, while we sacrificed a time period of making money and buying things a lot of our peers were buying. We then worked long, hard hours and committed to earning our advanced degree so that we would make extra money so we could pay for a house, a vehicle, and other nice things. Some of us are not asking for more money. Some of us are not resisting having our pay cut. Some of us are fully aware that we are not above this economic hardship. Really. Some of us really do care about the kids and want them to learn the things which are going to help them in their lives. Really. Some of us aren't so bad. Be careful about lumping us all together because you are afraid of what we "do".

-- Posted by mh.educated.adult on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 5:07 PM

My son also came home from school last year and said a number of his teachers discussed the levy during class. He is also smart enough to know to not believe everything that the teacher said. I could give you the teachers name but when I complained to the principle he just blew it off. Let's just say MATH was not being taught that day at the high school. As for we are just trying to keep the teachers we have because they won't stay if they don't get a raise or have to have their pay and benefits reduced. I say let them go with every district and every state having issues; I'm sure they will have no trouble finding another job. Wait they said they didn't become a teacher to get rich, and neither did I. I teach for a living also, I took a pay cut and I just adapted. I do what I do because it is fun and rewarding to me.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 3:56 PM

Think about this. There's no one that can tell me that these issues aren't discussed within the school walls. My middle school child came home about 3 weeks into the Luna bill and said their teacher told them that he/she probably won't have a job next year since they have to cut teachers with the new programs coming in. (Meaning Luna Plan). My child asked why Luna wanted to stop giving the schools money and there wouldn't be enough teachers for next year. Oh and by the way, my child also came home during the levy last year with scarey stories and all worried about how the schools and teachers were going to make it.

So if anyone tries to tell me none of this is spoken in the school, well blow smoke into someone elses craw who is naive enough to believe it.

That being said, have a good day.

-- Posted by midea on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 3:14 PM


Interesting when you say none of your teachers discussed the levy. When my son came home and told me that he has heard about it through his teachers and discussion they have in class.

This not only happened on the levy but everything that has been happening within the school system changes,especially with the new bills that were passed this year. My son has learned so many fallacies from his teachers that it is sad. I feel they are only concerned with their paychecks and jobs, not the students education. The students look to the teachers for the truth and yet they get fallacies.

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:49 PM

That should have read "their" parents.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:41 PM

Then how do you explain the parents who DID have students to come home, and said they're teachers DID discuss the levy and the consequences that the students would suffer if said levy failed?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:37 PM


I have a bachelors degree and two master's degrees. I come from a long line of teachers and administrators. I have taught in two school systems and chose to not teach at MTN Home becausse I don't like the administration and its policies.

I do know what teachers do when kids get out early. However, there are teachers who have to supervise these students along with classified staff during the two or so hours after they are released. This is a waste of the funding the school has. It could be used for better means.

I find that the answer I got from the assistant superintendent was less than professional. The school system within our community needs to be overhauled. This levy would not make things better it would only put a band aid on something that is already broken. We need to look seriously at where the money is going and have some major adjustments. Particularly with administrator pay!

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:33 PM

To the mother who said her child didn't learn anything about U.S History or the constitution:

They must not have been paying attention- the kids who pay attention in my class happen to know quite a bit about both subjects.

We have excellent teachers here- it's a matter of retaining them at the current salary levels for some. I understand there are some who are paid quite a bit, but that's not the case for most of our teachers.

Apparently, some of you REFUSE to pay attention when I tell you NONE of my teachers discussed last year's levy or opinion on it in class. No teachers lobbied for us to go speak for them. Those that spoke did it of their OWN accord.

-- Posted by hcod on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:27 PM

Regarding building schools in Mayfield. If the Board cannot maintain and work within a budget for 1 set of schools, how in the world do they think they could handle 3 more schools added to what they already have? Know what? If Mountain Home school board adds more schools to its responsibilities, take a guess who will try to justify a payraise? Care to give a guess? Let's see, 100,000+ and 60,000+ would warrant how much of a raise? Think about it.

I was always told to "follow the money, follow the money."

-- Posted by midea on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 1:01 PM

I invite anyone, who is upset with those of us who voted "no", to address the thousands of voters who didn't bother to show up at the polls. This easily could have gone either way considering how close the final numbers appeared.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 10:37 AM

This is really amazing, just because something has been done since 1950 doesn't make it right. A LEVY is for a temporary issue and should not be voted on every few years and crying the world will end after becoming dependent on it. These school LEVIES are like drugs to the school administrators. Once they get it they have to have it. Not only that they have to have another and another. Ask yourself if you have a separate job and bank account to pay for your homes utilities or does it come out of the same pot of money the rest of your bills do? The facilities should be maintained from the main district budget, after all that is one of the main reasons they have a budget. Next thing you know they will want a LEVY for books, another for Supplies, another for toilet paper, and so on. One budget and manage it properly and live within it. If you have been to the Mayfield meeting at the court house the last few weeks you would have also seen the developer submit a document from our school administration saying that if they build houses the Mountain Home School District would build them a new high school, junior high, and a couple of elementary schools. Guess who will be paying for this? They can't even get another BOND to pass to finish the job in the town of Mountain Home, now they are promising to build schools in Mayfield at our expense. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM

I invite anyone who believes teachers had nothing to do because the high school was dismissed at 1pm yesterday to return to college, obtain a degree in education and learn what is done by teachers when students are dismissed early in a day. I also want to challenge those who think our administrators are doing a poor job to return to college, receive the necessary education, spend the post education years in the classroom teaching, work your way up to administrator or superintendant and then overhaul how appropriated money is spent. Until you do this you have no idea of what you speak. Do not misinterpret my comments as approval of how the superintendant runs the district or manages the budget, I am just wise enough to know until I have held the job myself I do not have enough information to state it is being handled incorrectly.

-- Posted by swmom on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 9:29 AM

I am glad the levy did not pass, it is about time the people of Mtn Home starts standing up for what is right. Make the adminstration work with the current budget and make do, like the rest of us who are facing the economic cutbacks.

I spoke with the assistant superintendent of the district yesterday with the concern that the high school students were let out at 1:00 and their were no buses to take home the kids till the normal time. I felt this was poor planning on the schools part, these kids should be in class not just running around town, the gym, the lab, or anywhere else for that matter. His comment to me was "So do you want your child to have four finals in one day or have them spread out over several" My reply is this: Keep the kids where they belong "in school" not on the streets where they can get into trouble. We pay the district money to keep these kids in school. Rearrange the schedules please and keep these kids learning. I also asked why didn't a note go home to parents concerning this. His reply "well 1000 students and 37 cents or 41 cents per letter is a lot of money out of the budget to do "oh please sir, you instead choose to pay for the light bill, water bill and teachers salaries to waste 2 to 3 extra hours of kids on campus or off because many found ways home thus a waste of money to keep teachers at the school when the day was over". What is wrong here? This school system needs to have an overhaul. Quit messing around and get serious about the budget and the kids.

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 8:53 AM

well said swmom!!!!!

-- Posted by snafu on Thu, May 19, 2011, at 4:51 AM

I am all for giving the students the best we can, don't get me wrong on that. I am just wondering what has happened to all the monies that have already been collected to KEEP the building in good shape throughout the years. Who didn't do their job in making sure the buildings were always in good condition?

Why do we have a new boiler in a school on base that will never ever be used again?

-- Posted by maybeso on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 10:11 PM

I appreciate everyones right to express their opinion, but please know the facts before you do. I am so tired of people stating the school district lied when they passed the levy to build the jr high. If you had taken the time to read the levy you would have seen it was clearly stated you were voting to pass phase 1 which would be a jr high. It was also clear a second levy would need to be passed to build phase 2 at which point it would be a high school. In addition, the levy which failed yesterday was a facilities levy which has been in place since approximately 1950, taxes would not have gone up as it was renewing a levy which was already in place. I encourage anyone who thinks they can run the school district in a more effecient manner to run for any vacancies on the school board; however I doubt that will happen since I didn't see all of you lining up around the block to run. As for me, no I didn't run as I know I am not qualified for the position. Unlike all of you I don't claim to know everything about every subject matter on a local, state or national level.

-- Posted by swmom on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 9:55 PM

Trouble2011, I think your giving credit to them, I would trust a trained monkey more than I would these bafoons. And if they want to get a levy to maintain the schools, I would like to ballet a levy on the county to maintain my home, since prices for products and contractors are increasing beyond what I can afford. All in all, Im happy for the outcome, and no my children wont suffer, since all these schools are worried about now is if my child can pass the tests. I "will" ensure they are taught what they need to know, and its not, can you choose a,b,c or d.

-- Posted by scoutin on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 9:40 PM


You're a real piece of work. A LEVY is a temporary solution to a problem, and if it has been going on for over 50 years it needs to stop. Facilities should be maintained by the school budget not rely on a LEVY. They passed a LEVY a few months ago using the children as pawns. Yes taxes DID go up for that. Now the temporary facility LEVY is up they want to continue keeping their hands in the homeowner's pocket. No they have their hand in one of my pockets they don't need them in both. GREED from the administrators is what it is and a trained monkey can do some of their jobs. I have dealt with a couple of them and they have no clue.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 9:31 PM

This what I hear front the next generation..Shut the front door...

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 8:26 PM

Well slap the dog and spit in the fire, the levy didn't pass !! Will there be life ever after?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 8:14 PM




-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 8:10 PM

the last levi was to pay for programs and other parts of the school system, this levi wich we have had since the 50s and would not have raised any taxes, would have taken care of all the up keep of the schools, pay the electric bills and so on, so since this levi did not pass now the levi that the community faught so hard to pass for the kids programs, has to be used for for the maintanence of the schools instead of the programs, so all of you people who voted against the levi because you didnt want your taxes to go up if you would have taken the time and looked at what was going on you would have known that your taxes would not have gone up because you are already paying for it. Now My question is, who do you think is soaking up the money, it sure isnt our local school board, for one they dont even get paid for the long hours they spend on hour schools, and do you really think the administrators of our local district is making that much, can you do their job, walk in their shoes. Mr. Johnson, Mr. longhurst and Mrs Cruser, thank you very much for all that you do with what you have to do it with you are very much appreciated.

-- Posted by mtnhomelifer on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:57 PM

It amazes me how much money some of these people make in this school district....Teachers losing thier jobs and programs must be cut....yet these people have yet to live like the rest of us and budget, cut back, and do without...I have 2 children in this school district and I refuse to vote yes to give these greedy pigs one more cent of my hard earned money. Something has got to give...but its certainly not going to be me! Had to tell my 15 year old that I cannot afford the $61 yearbook for her this year...just simply cant afford it. Its about whats necessary!!!!

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:42 PM

I do so love the rain. Have had the hose off the the sprinkler since last week.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:27 PM

Down goes the Levy... Down goes the Levy... now its time to see how the School Distric does like the rest of us on a budget... its not hard, its called trim the fat, meaning you fat cats at the top soaking up the money. You can say your cutting teachers and programs, but I want to see you do the right thing and trim your paychecks, like the rest of us have to make our bugets work. But I doubt you will, its hard to get the silver spoon out of your mouth in time to notice your starving the children.. good for you, but be careful how far you get the spoon in, you could choke on it and then no one come to your aid.. I know CPR but I reserve it for "legitimate" reasons.

-- Posted by scoutin on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:19 PM

Sorry about the Levy but as a home owner and taxpayer I have had to learn to live within a budget and so should the school system. I do believe that the school system got a levy last year. Sorry but between last years levy that the school system pushed to have all the students eligible to vote to tax all the property owners you have enough. Really now how much do you need to educate our children. I have 2 graduates from the Mountain Home school district who know nothing about United States History or The Constitution. Their friends are just as CLUELESS. I guess if you DUMB down the the United States population its justified that Illegal Immigrant's rights are Justified and we become an Entitlement society. I don't blame the Teachers. I blame the curriculum they are forced to teach!!!

-- Posted by CJ333 on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:10 PM


Old Guy

It cost us nothing..

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 6:05 PM

Wow sure is nice to have all this rain. Make the crops grow better and faster, replenishes the water table some. Luckily we are not needing any levys.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:57 PM


This is where my husband and I have always voted. I do my homework and know where to vote and when. Or I would not have taken the time after an 8 hour shift to vote. Get off your HIGH horse. The problem here is with the election committees records. Two people living in the same location should have the same ballots (We are married and living in the same household. HAPPILY.). AKBRAND You sound like you must be a Democrat and didn't get your way. Didn't the school board get a levy passed last year to tax PROPERTY OWNERS $2 million plus for how ever long they can get away with it. Didn't 12 years ago this same school system BILK the tax payers by saying they were building a New High School!!! Then when all was said and done tell us that because they forgot to put 2 gyms in it they had to make it a Junior High??? Get your FACTS and Records straight and stop acting like a reporter for ABC or NBC and making it sound like its everyones fault but the ones that are responsible. You know I have talked to a few people about this levy who are renters. They say it is not their concern. Then they wonder why when property taxes go up that their rent goes up. Its the same as when fuel costs go up all the products you buy in the store go up. Get a CLUE and start helping to be a solution and not a WHINER that its everyones else's problem. The school board and local school system needs to start working on a REAL BUDGET that includes CUTBACKS just like everyone else!!! The people from California that move here because their taxes are too high can't continue the same way of supporting every social program that comes along including every education program that every educator dreams about. IT IS JUST NOT VIABLE. So Yes AKBRAND some one needs to put their BIG person pants on and live in REALITY!!!

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:46 PM

I do apologize for the long sentance. I have alot of pride is this town, and it is really upsetting when such selfish people only look at how it affects them and dont look at the whole picture.

Kids are very self consious, and when thay see that people really dont care what happens to them, how are they suppose to care about how they act.

-- Posted by mtnhomelifer on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:43 PM

Wow, that was a long sentence.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:31 PM

for one, Just cant watch you obviously have not invested any time in what the Levi is all about, This Is My Home Town, I grew up here i live here i pay taxes here, our school are our future, we have only about 10,000 people in this town, there are many empty places down town that should have business in them, why is that no body wants to come to a community that doesnt have anything for their kids, next programs are going to have to be cut to pay for what the levi would have paid for, so now instead of the kids being involved in programs to expand their potential, they are now posibly going to be running around being bored, and very posibly getting into trouble, and as for the teachers well they are not the only ones that are going to lose employment,wich is a big shame, lunch room workers, special ed teachers, councilors, janitors, and many more, so with that unemployment is going to have to pick that one up along with welfare how is that going to be paid for well now your taxes will go up for that, not to mention cost of living cause the business have to recover what they dont make any more, and posibly there cant afford to stay in business due to the lack of, now we are going to lose population in town, wich also means we dont have the head count for the goverment funds so I guess we lose that too. all I hear anymore is what about me how is it going to affect me, well here is your sign.

-- Posted by mtnhomelifer on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 5:23 PM

Sorry Brenda,

I will just be laughing out loud in the future rather than laughing something off, but you will know the truth!

-- Posted by akbrand on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 4:55 PM

Well Mtn. Home once again you have showed our kids that they do not matter. You don't care if they have clean,warm classrooms/bathrooms/kicthens/etc. And for the ones who think computers in the classrooms is the answer to cut cost of teachers-think(if you can)again-how will we profide the electrical requirements that will need to be updated to handle the load of all those computers? I am ashamed to say I live in Mtn Home,ID!!!!!

-- Posted by amazedatdummies on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 4:28 PM

cant justwatch

Got muh edjamacation ratcheer at good ole MTN Home. Don't know where the state line is. YUK,YUK YUK. Never been anywheres else. Guess yore jes stuck wif me.

Mebe you could foller yer own advice, eh?

-- Posted by akbrand on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 4:23 PM

Mom of 2

Why didn't you take a little initiative and make sure that you were properly registered and where your polling place is. Maybe your husband has been voting in the wrong place. Gee...let's just blame someone else rather than putting on your big girl pants and checking things out for yourself.

You might check it out now before the next election. Ya think?

-- Posted by akbrand on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 4:17 PM

Hooray, maybe we can just let the school buildings fall down, run off off most of the teachers then just put up a great big tent and hold classes there.

Idaho is proving to be the new Arkansas. I guess we should all be proud of that!

-- Posted by akbrand on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 3:59 PM

The levy vote went the right way as well as the Highway District election.

Enough is enough for right now regarding taxes, try again when times are better.

And I'm glad Mr. Hall was reelected. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Just my opinion.

-- Posted by Old Vet on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 11:22 AM

It would be nice to know how many of the 1231 voters are property owners, and especially the 604 who voted for this latest ripoff. Thank You to the other 626 who voted NO.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 11:20 AM

Observer don't be so hard on yourself.

-- Posted by maybeso on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 11:18 AM

I am confused. Observer, wasn't this a levy for the school buildings. How is not passing this levy going to make the students dumber? Is the building teaching now?

-- Posted by maybeso on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM


At least one new person was elected to the MHSD Board. Now maybe they will begin to understand that less is sometimes more and the voting public is more educated on how the MHSD Board and the MHSD does business!

Nice job to those educated, research oriented, fact seeking voters!!!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 18, 2011, at 7:11 AM

So far......

Mountain Home School District

Building Levy

$925,000 a year for five years ($4,625,000)

No - 627 votes - 51%

Yes - 604 votes - 49%


-- Posted by Beau on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 10:54 PM

Ok Huge Question,

Husband votes at 2:30 pm...I had to wait to vote until I was off work....7:30pm. He got to vote for school board members. I was told I was not in the same district as my husband. WTH we have been in the same house for 11 years.

-- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 9:10 PM

15 minutes left to vote. I hope for change. It is pretty clear that what we have just is not working. Hope everyone has a good night.

Thank you to the people who ran against the ones in office. Nice job folks.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 7:47 PM

No offense taken MGH4316. I asked for everyone's opinion and you definitely shared it. I also asserted that I was not against free trade. Its just a travisty to me personally that I had a big heart and he was coming from a place of greed.....so to correct you, NO, I did NOT get what I wanted because I had a heart. My fault?? I guess so, but I was simply warning others who may try to help these two characters out, not realizing what their intentions are.

Not the biggest story on the blog by far, but I think it was worth a mention so that others are atleast aware. No need to be so ASSERTIVE about how "silly" you think my comment was....I guess I should have asked for it to be reviewed by the "silly-committee" before posting it.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 2:48 PM

I went and voted this afternoon. Sad to say, there was no one else there to vote. I sure hope it picks up later in the day.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 2:24 PM

mhg4316...I have to agree that Rocklady's post seems a little silly. On the other hand, we'll probably never see "an act of kindness" like selling an item at a steep discount in Mountain Home for awhile. What was Rocklady thinking?

-- Posted by bondyweb on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 8:59 AM


You SOLD the items. Since he bought them from you they belong to him....You named the price when they were your items, and he named the price when they were his. Youre sounding a bit silly to me.

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 8:26 AM

Dont forget to vote especially in the districts zones if you want to change things in the SD.

-- Posted by snafu on Tue, May 17, 2011, at 5:09 AM

Good point Eagle_eye...I will have to take a walk down to city hall and see what I can find out. My husband is on a fence about it. He agrees that it wasn;t very nice, but also thinks that flea markets and other garage sales operate on the same premise of buy and sell....but he completely agrees with the notion that this guy should have a permit since he has been sitiuated in one place and earns revenue from it weekly now for many many years. So he has urged me to do some checking. Thank you for bringing up such a valid point about sellers permits and tax evasion. I know that as a "vendor", anytime that I sold items at a street fair or festival I had to fill out a tax form....so I am sure it applies to him too.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 8:10 PM

Rocklady: I don't know if this joker is the same person I am thinking of but if it is that kind of stuff has been going on for years with him. Always wants to get something for nothing and then resell it. If I am right the City should be taking a look at this person for the amount of yard sales/storage unit sales/or garage sales they all the same. It would appear to me he is running a business without the required city permits, nor paying the fee's or even State sales tax. Seeing as you have been doing business with this person over time, may help you and others to talk to the City about what is going on, only my suggustion and opinion. To bad I didn't know you was selling a table saw so cheap would have been first in line for that sale and it won't have been for resale either LOL.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 3:57 PM

I agree MsMarylin, I will stick to my guns next time and hope that it doesn't deter a good person with limited funds from being able to take a needed item home with them for a giveaway.

Bondyweb- You are absolutely right. Perhaps there is an unwritten code of respect that should be followed that says it is unkind to haggle the price of an item from your neighbor and then walk it next door and sell it for triple profit within the same hour. It was as if I was competing with myself and my own merchandise...rediculous and mean. People literally browsed these items at my house and browsed them again at his house for 3 times the price....so I think other residents would benefit from a heads up if they have the same opinion about it as I do.

Thanks for the opinions:)

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 3:16 PM

You know Rocklady, your post which is really saying "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." may just save a bunch of people the same grief here in Mountain Home. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe these gentlemen read the Banter Box? Be interesting to hear their side of the story.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 3:02 PM

Lesson Learned Rocklady

Stick to your prices unless you know who your selling to or you don't mind going down on the price.

People are always looking to pick up something for less so they can sell it for more....

Usually they don't put the item up for sale so fast. I don't blame you, I wouldn't buy from him again...

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 12:45 PM

I am curious about how my fellow Banter Boxers feel about this...and no offense will be taken if you disagree.

I held a garage sale this weekend. We are planning our first family vacation to Florida to introduce our adopted child to the rest of the family for the first time. We have saved up for 3 years for the trip. We thought the garage sale would serve a dual purpose (money for bills and the trip, and possibly help out someone who needed an item but didn't have a lot of money).

Many of the items that I sold...ie, a Craftsman Table Saw, I practically gave away. Two older gentlman wanted them. Rather than sell the saw for 60 or 70 dollars....I felt pity and sold it to them for 20.00. I figured they were retired and needed to fix up their home or occupy their time with a craft project or two. This is one of SEVERAL things that I sold to them for giveaway prices- out of the goodness of our heart.

What wasn't sold was packaged up and prepared for donation to the Senior Citizens Center.

Yesterday, after closing up our garage sale my family stopped by the storage unit sale that is near Les Scwab. I was shocked to see all the items from MY GARAGE SALE now being sold for 3 ands 4 times what I had sold them to the little old man for!!!!!! Here I am taking almost nothing for the items because I do not want to take from a needy person, and they completely took me to the bank!

I was so visably shaken by it that I had to go take a breather. They didn't even have the decency of waiting a week...they literally bought my belongings and immediately transported them to his own sale within the same block of time!

Now, I am not against free trade or profit....but does anyone else think that this is outrageously greedy and rude? Maybe I am over sensative?? I literally sold out my child's first vacation experience to help out a greedy old man.

I guess I got duped? Ironically...I have bought items from that same storage building for 10 years now, all because I felt sorry for the man. I didn't realize that he employs other elderly men 'scout out' nearby sales so that they can mark them up and resale them-within the same day. I had never met these two gophers, but would have recognized the old man if he had done his own scouting, and I would have quoted a more appropriate price for his intentions. Needless to say to him, I will not buy another item from him as long as I live.

Perhaps my perception is skewed? Please set me straight if I'm wrong.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Sun, May 15, 2011, at 12:35 PM

Hey GDiddy 85282

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for Fiscal Year 2008 and FY 2009 as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period: (below)

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted for

and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th

-- Posted by midgetsbear on Thu, May 12, 2011, at 2:59 PM

Part of the reason that some of the candidates probably will not respond to the MHN is that in a certain WECRD election---this very same paper misrepresented the platform that Art and Judy ran on. Just before the election the MH News printed an article that was far less than factual. Now, low and behold...right before this election the same thing happens AGAIN. Surprise-surprise!!!

Nothing like tainted democracy at work.

Now, Art is involved in the MHSD Board election. Perhaps once bitten twice shy? Call the guy if you have questions. You will get more honesty right from the horses mouth than you will ever get from our local and very slanted paper. Do your own research. It is always best. Do not "assume" that because someone has made a choice not to deal with this paper that they have something to hide or are not in touch with what is going on.

If you want out of touch, vote for the bunch that is already in. History repeats itself. This goat rope event is no different.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 9:02 PM

Problem is bho wants to go more in debt. are we borrowing 40 percnet of what we spend?

-- Posted by skeeter on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 3:58 PM

With 2 wars & billions upon billions spent on each, the U.S. debt was bound to get out of control... I wish that "every" American could remember that...

-- Posted by GDiddy85282 on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 3:49 PM

@cantjustwatch: The U.S. Debt was out of hand 8-10 yrs ago... There is no way that "ANY" president can resolve the debt within 1 term... What took years to build, will not go away overnight... I give respect to Obama, he was placed in a no-win situation, but he has tried to stay on point with the issues of the day, as much as possible... I don't envy his job at all... It will take time to get the U.S. debt under control... Just my opinion...

-- Posted by GDiddy85282 on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 3:46 PM

The questionnaires sent to the candidates for the school board have interesting answers. I don't like it when a candidate won't answer a question, makes me think that candidate has agendas he wants to hide, doesn't want to offend anyone and/or hurt good ole boy relations. I DO like this individual as a person, but I don't believe this individual fits my agenda of what the board should do. In fact, as for the questions he does answer, his answers are so vague that I don't know where he really stands on anything.

Now for the other candidate who turned in her answers to the quesionnaire, I would have a tendency to vote for her. I don't know her personally, so I can't say how she is on a personal level.From her answers I see that she is interested in downsizing administrations and comes right out and says the school board needs change. Ummmm. She is honest about her thoughts on unions, and teacher pay and retirement, and types of education.

Overall, I think the interview questions were very good as they did elicit true responses and showed us a little bit about how bold and true a person is as to how they feel about the school system. The quesions also showed me just how willing a candidate is to be a little uncomfortable and state what they feel needs changed or not.

-- Posted by midea on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 10:49 AM

If you wasn't enough confusion on what Zone people are suppose to vote for Trustee's. The MH News has added to it. According to Kelly's blog Checketts and Oyler are running in Zone 3. Nelson is running in Zone 1.

Under the Contested races article, Reynolds and Oyler are running for Zone 1. Checketts and Nelson are running in Zone 3.

Who is running in what Zone, people need to have the correct information?

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 10:28 AM

Just goes to show the Government doesn't know what the left hand is doing vs the right hand, and we are suppose to trust those clowns.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 5:25 PM

Then if you don't trust the school district go directly to East Elementary and ask or ask the President of the PTA. I'm sure someone can give you an honest answer. Ask the Janitor, or some one who works in the kitchen. Better yet ask the person or persons who is working on it.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 4:01 PM

When was the last time somebody got a straight answer out of the school district office or the school board?

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 2:22 PM


You never know the money for that project could of been donated, or the PTA raised money for it. To find the truth why not go to the school district office and ask about it?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 12:10 PM

Considering school is almost out for the summer I doubt the students would be taking care of a garden and I do go past the school everyday and the pavement wasn't that bad. It could of made it awhile longer. I'm just commenting that they are supposedly hurting for money and they are doing the flower boxes. To me the money for that could of been made more useful elsewhere. If they wanted to improve something they could of used the money to re do the sidewalk on the side of the school where students must enter and leave the school grounds.

-- Posted by transplanted on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 9:59 PM

I'm not positive, but maybe the school is going to plant a garden in the planter boxes for the kids to take care of. Don't knock it until you know.

This is something a lot of schools throughout the country do.

-- Posted by jdcb on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 9:12 PM

Transplanted, If you were to walk past that playground before the improvements, you would have seen how the pavement was buckeling horribly from the tree roots. I am sure it must have been a safety hazzard for the children. I would guess flower boxes was a rather cheap fix compared to repaving the playground.

-- Posted by Amused MtnHomey on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 8:17 PM

No Rocklady. Not your vehicle. This one is decorated much differently.

-- Posted by elmorevoter on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 7:40 PM

Everyone that is against the planned Mayfield Community needs to attend the next hearing that begins at 6 p.m. May 10 at the county courthouse and voice your concerns. Are we going to sell the city of Mountain Home down the road? Yes everyone needs to come out and hear this mess they are proposing. They want to build a community at Elmore County expense. The question is if you live 15 minutes from Boise and 15 minutes from Mountain Home where do you think they will go to shop and eat? Mountain Home and our Wally World or Boise with its outlet malls and multitude of stores. Our 24 hour Arby's or to Boise with a vast selection of 24 hour restaurants? The people planning this community are blowing smoke on the water resources and didn't even mention all the waste and pollution this will create. Instead they showed slides on a similar community in California with home values increasing every year, the problem the slides and data are from 1970-2000. When was the housing crash again? They won't say what those houses are worth now. They also propose a starting of 380 homes or so to start out but as soon as the first home goes in they will have to pull our fire and ambulance resources. If the ambulance is on a 1 hour or more call to the county line guess were the replacement ambulance comes from; Glenn's Ferry. This will leave Glenn's Ferry without EMS coverage during those times, but I'm sure the people of Glenn's Ferry don't mind as nobody was at the last meeting. I would also argue where are the jobs? All these people are going to work where? They also want the school district to build new schools near the homes so the kids don't have to be bused to Mountain Home. The school district can't even get upgrades for the schools in the city never mind get more bonds and levy's to build more schools for the Californians that want to move here. This project has not been well thought out for the citizens of Elmore County and Mountain Home. The only people arguing for this are from California and ADA County. Why doesn't ADA County want it? The answer is it will cost too much for the regular folks just so some out of Californians can make a buck.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 1:52 PM

Bondyweb.....its as simple as 1,2,3 or A to Z

-- Posted by Rocklady on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 1:01 PM

Perhaps Elmorevoter is referring to me?? I have an old forestry jeep that I use to commute to Boise everyday...but I purchased it at auction. The color is hard to miss. I am a geologist, so the purchase was exactly what I needed...but many people have made coments to me about it (thinking it is still a government vehicle)....I have the sales receipt to prove that it is no longer a service vehicle....if this is the vehicle you are referring to. -- Just thought I would offer that info in case it did pertain to me :)

-- Posted by Rocklady on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 12:58 PM

With the school district needing money for building repairs and letting go of teachers because of not enough money why oh why is money being wasted at East Elem. by tearing up the pavement by the trees in the playground and building those flower beds around them instead. Looked like the pavement could of lasted a bit longer and put those monies to better use say towards the roof of a school or books or even low and behold a teachers pay. Just saying seems like a waste to me when there are people out there that if the new levy is passed will have to give more money out of stretched to the limit budgets.

-- Posted by transplanted on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 8:18 AM

@elmorevoter can you be more specific about what vehicle you are referring to please??

-- Posted by mhg4316 on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 10:47 PM


Why not, we have been paying for a Recreation Center we don't have.

-- Posted by maybeso on Fri, May 6, 2011, at 8:33 AM

Suggested poll question: With gas prices as high as they are should the taxpayers of Elmore County continue to pay for a county owned vehicle to be used to commute from Boise everyday?

-- Posted by elmorevoter on Fri, May 6, 2011, at 12:17 AM

Rocklady...intriguing post! But inquiring minds want to know

-- Posted by bondyweb on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 8:58 PM


Of course is the response. I thank my grandma and grandpa for the countless hours they spent with me doing spelling each and every summer (grandma retired from a school district). I thank grandma and grandpa for listening to me read for hours on end year after year. I thank my grandpa and grandma for helping me with my math (I was not very good at it once upon a time). Why? Because I went to a district that was rural and "poor" (other than 3 years in a private school) and parents/guardians took an active role in education instead of treating teachers like baby sitters and schools like daycare centers. It was not teachers that shaped me into the educated person I have grown to be---it has been my inner drive to be the best that I can be and contribute what I can to community. Thank you Grams and Gramps...

For the last five years, the Boise School District has cut pay and jobs to "trim the fat" (according to a recent news story of this week). What has the MHSD done in all of their wonder over the last 10 years to "trim the fat?" A good percentage of these "poor" teachers make double what 2 working people in this community make in ONE YEAR!!! Teachers do not go into teaching to get rich---that has been said on here time and time again. Yet if you take the time to look at the pay....some are off to a pretty good start.

Really??: At least bring a valid argument to the table. Tell me what the MHSD has done over the last 10 PLUS years to be proactive as opposed to reactive?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 7:17 PM

A few years ago while my husband was serving in Iraq, I used the services of a local business. I was quoted a price for a specific service, yet billed 3 times the amount, even though the materials and the time it took to complete the job were exactly as estimated. Shocked, I contacted the business and asked questions, and it was soon evident that my first experience would be my last due to the treatment I had received. Wishing my husband had been home, I paid the bill and vowed to take my business elsewhere.

Today, 5 years later, I returned to this business in an effort to request a small donation for a community project that is underway. My husband urged me to reconsider the establishment thinking that they might have changed their ways. After briefly explaining the project I was promptly told that a donation would be made. His donation? A sarcastic comment about how ridiculous the project plans were, even though the plans were designed to benefit the elderly, the children, and the families of Mountain Home.

A respectful decline would have been sufficient, but the insult was almost too much to bare. I have learned my lesson once again; that some businesses will forever complain about how bad the economy is yet have no desire to look within themselves for improvement.

I'd like to offer this business a counter-contribution......whether the purchase is small, large, or none at all --you will never know how valuable a potential customer or even an existing customer is until you no longer have them....and you have certainly lost my potential business. The competition has always been respectful, kind and willing to assist.....and they know me by name because of the dollars I have spent in their establishment. Had you offered me an ounce of respect when you declined to participate, I would not be writing this, but some businesses never change. It seems as though the pride of yesterday may soon be gone forever.

-- Posted by Rocklady on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 1:37 PM

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Tune into CNN Omaba to make a speech

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 1, 2011, at 9:01 PM


I haven't felt this patriotic in a LONG time.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Sun, May 1, 2011, at 8:58 PM

Ok so it's a little off topic, considering everyone is talking about the MHSD. Um just out of curiosity when did hookah bars become cool? I learned the other day while I was moving my box to the other side of the street; we have our selves a hookah bar in town. Good thing, bad thing.... I wonder if they have apple flavored stuff.

Spare a dime

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Apr 30, 2011, at 2:21 PM

You're Welcome.

In response to the final comment: The prior deletion was solely base on the very rude comment. Please remember that editorials are solely the writer's opinion. I would never assume an editorial would be considered the opinion of the entire staff. We have been argued with / called out before and that has never caused a deletion.

Most sincerely Comrade Brenda. ps I have been called worse!!

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, Apr 28, 2011, at 4:49 PM

Thank you, Brenda.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, Apr 28, 2011, at 10:52 AM

Just to clarify, "things were made white, I mean right," what exactly are you meaning by this statement?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Thu, Apr 28, 2011, at 10:25 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
The entire comment has been deleted. I do not find it funny or appropriate in any way.

Here is an interesting link that outlines the districts responibilities for school building maintenance. I wonder where this money is?http://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/finance_tech/whats_new/School%20Facility%20Maintenance_FAQ%20%206%2019%2007.pdf

-- Posted by jtrotter on Wed, Apr 27, 2011, at 6:55 PM

A question that needs to be asked is when they closed the schools at the Base where did all those teachers go, pink slips or worked into the Mountain Home Schools with the number of students going down????

Just like when the District didn't get the Bond for the Junior High to High School, moved the 9th grade to the High School anyway which caused over crowing there. When the District doesn't get there way always another way to creat more problems.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Apr 27, 2011, at 4:04 PM

Pray tell Opinion Missy. Are you not thankful for the "poor teacher(s)" that taught you how to speak, write, and develop your thoughts so that you can post them here on this forum?

-- Posted by Really?? on Wed, Apr 27, 2011, at 12:22 PM

Why, because she isn't afraid of speaking the truth and standing up for what she believes in?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Apr 27, 2011, at 7:35 AM

Not everybody is interested in jumping on your bandwagon to pick apart every organization in town. Some of us are able to look for and comment on the good in life and not use a bunch of negative drizzle. Thank goodness you did not step up to run for school board.

-- Posted by Amused MtnHomey on Wed, Apr 27, 2011, at 6:32 AM

"Blaine Miller" while I appreciate the passion very clear in your post you failed to address the issue at the root of our problem. The issue is that the MHSD has run like a district with increased enrollment while for the better part of the last 10 years enrollment has been on the decline---a very steady decline at that. More than half of the MHSD budget is spent in pay and perks. While enrollment has gone down, staffing has not followed the same trend.

Classrooms at MHJH sit empty. State of the art labs, unused.

I suggest you review on My Idaho just how much some of these poor teachers are being forced to get by on when their pay is double the average salary of that of a working family in this community (some teachers not all).

At some point common sense must prevail. There is no more money available to tax based on what this community is able to earn.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 5:54 PM

The city of Mountian Home is extremely luck to have Mr. Jeff Johnson and his staff at the High School. Having lived in Mt Home for several years, I always noticed how easy it was for people to comment on whats wrong with the school. Let me tell you whats right! All of the teachers at that High School deserve more praise and benefits than anyone could ever possibly pay them. Both my kids came through that school and I am truly thankful for that. While everyone talks about budgets and funding and whats wrong with the system, we've forgot about the people that the cuts truly impact - - those teachers! And yet they show up every day and give all of us nothing short of thier very best as educators. I will be forever greatful to all of them. So as the city and state continue to struggle through to find ways to make the funds work, never forget that those teachers are impacted far more than anyone of us and yet they continue to take our kids and shape, coach and mentor them into future leaders and citizens. The best part of living in Mt Home was that high school and I will forever be greatful that we were fortunate enough to get to know the people who make it happen every day!

Thank you Mt Home High School Teachers - All Of You!!

-- Posted by Blaine Miller on Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 3:45 PM

OM, Maybe we can ask CD Houston to run for the school board again. Heads He runs, Tails he don't.

-- Posted by R&M on Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 1:56 PM

Not to disagree, but just wanted to point out what I am sure you already know. Lowest bid does not always mean best quality and what good does it do to accept the lowest bid if the work is shoddy and will need to be replaced or repaired much sooner than if the work had been of a better quality for perhaps a slightly higher price.

-- Posted by just1 on Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 1:16 AM

Happy Easter Everyone. Hope all the kids get lot of Easter candy and be able to go to the local Easter egg hunts.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, Apr 24, 2011, at 5:41 AM

I was on McDonalds twitter site. They have a note to the Drudgereport.com that they are appalled over the incident at one of their restaurants in Baltimore. This is so disgusting but in a lot of ways shows what happens when there is no discipline, or responsibility for actions. Now where was the discipline when these girls were growing up. My heart just breaks for the hurt girls family.

-- Posted by midea on Fri, Apr 22, 2011, at 2:08 PM

With as poorly run as the MHSD is, Jim Alexander is unopposed for his position on the MHSD Board. Not a single person within that zone could find the time to run. That is where the accountability begins. The article in the paper this week was a joke. The MHSD and their Board should be ashamed.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Apr 21, 2011, at 8:34 PM

The time has come to send a message loud and clear to the Mountain Home School District. Everyone one in this town has to live within their means and the MHSD is no exception. By voting no on this levy, you are not hurting education, rather sending a clear signal that the residents of our town will no longer tolerate the district's mismanagement of our hard earned dollars in an economy that can no longer support waste and fraud. Building certainly need upkeep, this is not debatable. However, are the schools bidding out repairs to the lowest bidder or are these jobs being given to brother Harry or cousin Eddie? Do we know? I don't believe we do but I am certain of one thing; the residents of this town are awake and are not going to follow suit anymore just because the MHSD states we need to because "it's good for the children." At least, that is my hope.

-- Posted by MtnHomeRes on Thu, Apr 21, 2011, at 4:33 PM

A lot of things were stated in the last levy. Such as new hiring of P or VP's. What was the first thing that the MHSD did? Hired a VP!

Until the money supply is cut off and the MHSD is made to work within a budget---they will continue to WASTE money and defraud the public. Basic economics 101 (supply and demand). When the public wises up and demands accountability then we will see change. Until then, open your pocket books just a bit more and invest in some rubber gloves.

I hate to say I told you so on this one folks but I did. A number of us have worked really hard on fact finding with respect to the MHSD. The span of time has been a number of years. You have been lied to over and over. If you complainers really want change and accountability...VOTE THE CURRENT MHSD BOARD OUT!

If not, expect more of the same and tax increases for the rest of your time here in MH.

The MHSD is exempt from this economy. JUST ASK EM!!!!!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Apr 21, 2011, at 11:04 AM

Did ya all notice how they worded the levy amount this time. Only $925,000 a year. Guess they didn't want to give the 5 year grand total so it wouldn't sound like so much so people will vote yes on this levy too.

-- Posted by transplanted on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 8:52 PM

You're right Observer... The sky is falling. Yes, we must close the schools. LOL Overreact much? What some of us are saying is that the school district will learn to manage their money only when they are forced to. They will have to prioritize just like everyone else. If they are too dim-witted not to anticipate, and budget for (out of their REGULAR budget) upkeep on facilities, then they ought not be teaching anybody anything.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 8:27 PM

Your hilarious, your leap from living within a budget doesn't matter if you're a family or a school district to CLOSING THE SCHOOLS is a grand canyon. With your way of thinking then the two year levy that just passed will have to automatically be renewed for the good of the school no matter the financial or state of education. Everyone has taken a hit in this economy with the value of the dollar falling, gas prices increasing as well as the price of other goods like food. I guess school districts, administrators and teachers are exempt from any cuts or budget restriction. Soon only politician's educators will be able to afford homeownership. How is that for a LEAP....it works both ways.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 8:17 PM


Continued fleecing, if they would have thought about this levy (temporary fix) was running out one would think they would have the foresight to figure that into the budget. Nope they wait until they can stick their greedy hands back into the homeowner's pockets for more.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 7:30 PM

So what's the point of these things expiring if they absolutely HAVE to be renewed or the buildings will just all crumble to the ground. Why don't they just permanately raise taxes if that's the case.

Be ready parents for your kids to come home and tell you how if this levy doesn't pass, they will all have to start wearing hardhats and steel-toed boots to school.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 7:23 PM


It doesn't really matter what it is for. What matters is the powers that be for the school district are worse than the people on the corner holding a sign. Their lies, mismanagement, or just plain greed. They need to stop with all these bonds and levies. I took a huge pay cut to keep my job as a lot of people have. Most are holding on by a thread, now they want more. They got the last levy then they got the funds from the government. But the government funds were for the teacher salaries only and couldn't be used on the facilities or kids. Using the kids a pawns and playing on fears is what the school district is good at. Anyway you slice it these taxes have to stop, people are tapped out.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 6:19 PM

Isn't building maintenance already calculated into the district budget every year? If the requests for money weren't so frequent then I would understand. But because they ARE so frequent, then it leads me to believe they don't know how to handle money very efficiently.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 4:57 PM

For those of you commenting on the new school levy, take a look at what it is for. This is not for textbooks, teacher's salaries, programs or anything else. This levy is a facility levy that is for the upkeep of the buildings and plants within the school district. Nobody is being greedy and this is nothing more than seeking the funds to keep the buildings in good repair. In fact, they are asking for less than what initially expected.

-- Posted by Really?? on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM

uncommon....I loved your comment. Sounds like the way to go to me.

-- Posted by transplanted on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 2:06 PM

Seems to me like people are having trouble with traffic. If you can't get a license plate number, then you're probably out of luck. The person who got a number off of the Mtn Home Water truck, call the City and tell them, the person who has trouble with Bowman's drivers, call them. I don't know that any of those people read here so stating it here would do no good. Calling the businesses and letting them know would be the best thing. If they don't do anything, at least you have done the right thing by calling them. Next time, call the cops and let them know what's going on.

-- Posted by ItsJustMeAgain on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 2:00 PM

Can someone tell me why the Bowman workers do not have to abide by the speed limit? I get blown off the road by the Bowman trucks almost everyday I venture out on the street. I mean.. they do great work from what I understand (besides the fact they have monopolized the industry in this town), but is that any reason to RACE up and down the street and put everyone else in danger? ~just curious

-- Posted by justplaincurious on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 1:39 PM

Another levy for the school? Seriously? Why don't we all just sell off all of our possessions, except for one change of clothes, and give all the procedes to the school district. Then in 2-5 years, when they are again out of money, we can all sell our one change of clothes and give the money to the school district, who will STILL not have done what they needed to do in the first place.

Also I was wondering if anyone knows for sure about the extra days the district added to the calendar. Is it true they did that because they got some extra money? If so, wouldn't that have been better spent on textbooks and other supplies?

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 10:12 AM

The main thing here is we lost another person. My thoughts to the family for losing a child. Let them grieve without being harassed by stupidity.

-- Posted by snafu on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 5:12 AM


At military funerals, one often sees three volleys of shots fired in honor of the deceased veteran. This is often mistaken by the laymen as a 21-gun salute, although it is entirely different (in the military, a "gun" is a large-calibered weapon. The three volleys are fired from "rifles," not "guns." Therefore, the three volleys isn't any kind of "gun salute," at all).

Anyone who is entitled to a military funeral (generally anyone who dies on active duty, honorably discharged veterans, and military retirees) are to the three rifle volleys, subject to availability of honor guard teams. This is not a 21-gun salute, nor any other type of "gun salute." They are simply three rifle volleys fired. The firing team can consist of any number, but one usually sees a team of eight, with a noncommissioned officer in charge of the firing detail. Whether the team consists of three or eight, or ten, each member fires three times (three volleys).

The three volleys comes from an old battlefield custom. The two warring sides would cease hostilities to clear their dead from the battlefield, and the firing of three volleys meant that the dead had been properly cared for and the side was ready to resume the battle.

The flag detail often slips three shell-casings into the folded flag before presenting the flag to the family. Each casing represents one volley.



Please let it go.

-- Posted by Beau on Wed, Apr 20, 2011, at 3:33 AM


Really this is how an Honorably Discharged Veteran acts within the community. I would personally like to thank the rest of the VETS that read this board for maintaining their bearing.

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Tue, Apr 19, 2011, at 9:51 PM


Why don't you ask the agency that approved the honor. It is up to them whether to order the 21 gun salute. I really think it is something you need to take up with them. A sense of decorum is not political correctness. Why don't you just visit the grave site and yell and scream or do whatever it is you need to do to JUSTIFY your feelings of anger over this.

-- Posted by workingbee on Tue, Apr 19, 2011, at 6:51 PM

Old Guy, Glad you are ok... I had the pleasure of watching White Truck #14 from the City of Mountain Home Wastewater and Water Dept. race down I-84 this morning at at least 90 mph. I was doing 85 just to get out of his way. Too bad the car he tailgated for the next 8 miles didn't. He certainly would have made it past the Broadway exit earlier than 7:45 am. So should I call that water department or the Mayors office, do you really think anything will happen.... doubt it.

-- Posted by maybeso on Tue, Apr 19, 2011, at 8:55 AM

Theres your problem old guy. White pickup man had his bottle of wine BEFORE he went out there. You're doing it all wrong.

-- Posted by CountryDweller on Mon, Apr 18, 2011, at 8:43 AM

Just wanted to pass along a word of thanks.

Thanks to the guy in a white dodge pickup truck on Strike Dam Cutoff Road that decided to pass a car when he could not see very far. My wife and I throughly enjoyed the bottle of wine we had when we got home to calm our nerves down. We enjoyed you almost hitting us head-on or forcing us into the ditch. I guess you getting to the lake faster than all the other cars justified placing 3 other families at risk. Thanks again.

-- Posted by Old guy on Sun, Apr 17, 2011, at 6:55 PM

Despite your feelings on the matter, those who claim to be "proud vets" with-in the community, and believe this is the right time, right place, and the right forum to express feelings of "outrage" or to question military honors at a funeral of a young man who may or may not have made a decision (good or bad). Remember what military bearing is and maintain it. I expect better from vets within the community. This is a conversation to have at a DAV meeting or American legion not here.

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sun, Apr 17, 2011, at 2:15 PM

MHresident....How do you know that young man was AWOL or that that young man deserted the Navy? Regardless I would hate to be a relative or friend and have to read a comment like that. They have enough pain to deal with without having to read something like that. You shouldn't speak ill of someone who has died.

-- Posted by transplanted on Sat, Apr 16, 2011, at 9:07 PM

Since we don't know the facts... he was still a veteran.. why don't you share the facts you have instead of talking out the side of your mouth...

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Apr 16, 2011, at 5:24 PM

Observer and workingbee,

We all mourn the loss of a young life cut short by tragedy. But, as a proud veteran who served his country honorably (as have many in this area) I do not find MHresident's comment out-of-line.

The use of the word "outrage" may have been a bit strong, but, to question the "honors" given a young man AWOL from the Navy during a time of war (the term "Deserter" may apply) seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Although the "honors" rendered were surely a comfort to his mourning friends and family, they could also be considered a slap in the face to those of us who served honorably during peace and war.

-- Posted by ProudVet&Granpa on Sat, Apr 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM

Time and Place MHresident, if you are indeed a military veteran than I am sure you have heard of military bearing.

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Apr 16, 2011, at 1:01 PM

Observer, I couldn't agree with you more. I actually asked to have MHResident's comment removed do to malice.

-- Posted by workingbee on Sat, Apr 16, 2011, at 9:22 AM

North 10 East to be repaved. What street does the Mayor live on?

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, Apr 15, 2011, at 5:15 PM

Who said the death penalty isn't a deterrent?


-- Posted by VicVega on Fri, Apr 15, 2011, at 7:38 AM

The reason tax day was changed to the 18th this year, guess the State went along with the Federal tax day.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 4:41 PM

Actually, the Idaho State Tax Commission Website shows April 18th as the deadline. (Not applicable to State Representative Phil Hart, who has no deadline since he pays no taxes.)


-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 8:12 AM

While the IRS has changed the deadline for filing taxes for 2010 the state of Idaho has not. The deadline for filing your taxes with the state remains April 15th.

-- Posted by swmom on Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 7:21 AM

No biggy Brenda, once all those late filers are pulling their hair out Friday, they can figure out they have a couple more days to finish pulling out their hair to meet the deadline. LOL

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Apr 11, 2011, at 5:10 PM

MHNews staff, you have on your calendar tax day as 15 Apr and I believe tax day this year is 18 Apr, can't remember the reason for the change but the IRS site also shows 18 Apr.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Apr 11, 2011, at 1:56 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher:
Yes, Joy knows but it was one of those things we can't change. Our calendar service will let us add but not delete some of the standard stuff already in it. Must of been designed before the date change. Sorry!

Yes, very much FairyTale.

Best wishes,

-- Posted by Albert Clement on Fri, Apr 8, 2011, at 1:15 PM

I noticed that ancestry.com has added a lot of new documents to their web site about the civil war and I think they have a week of free looks.

-- Posted by skeeter on Fri, Apr 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM

Sorry everyone. I went home yesterday and did not look at the web site until this morning. Jesse is no longer with us. Have a good day. B

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Fri, Apr 8, 2011, at 8:34 AM

Any one throw something up at night hawks in the evening? Get frogs and pollywogs out of the ditch under the doughnut tree? Ride your bike in the ditch that ran along North 10th East, climbed the trees that were at the corner of N 10 E and E 10 N? Spending your hard earned allowance at Gridley's or the Red Barn? Played cowboys and indians or war with everyone from a two block radius? Poured water down whistle pig holes in an attempt to flush them out? Smashed ants with hammers. Became blood brothers by scratching mosquito bites til they bled. We were seldom bored. I wouldn't trade the memories for anything.

-- Posted by Goldtooth on Thu, Apr 7, 2011, at 8:55 AM

I agree that kids these days don't know how to entertain themselves, and I don't totally support all the new gadgetry available; but, we should remember it is no longer safe for kids to be out roaming whenever and wherever anymore. The violent crime rate is much higher than "back in the day." It is sad. Also, much of this new-age stuff is being supported by "back-in-the-day" adults. My teen is just as spoiled as the next, but "monkey see, monkey do." Taking her cell phone and car keys for a few days is like sending her to the torture chamber. It's such a sad sight to behold.........NOT!! LOL We rely on many of these items more than they do. Because of this, I think we shouldn't be too hasty to criticize THEM. After all, did WE not create the little "monsters?" Aren't WE the ones providing all this technology to them? This is what they learn and know from us, and times truly have changed.........some for the better.............some not. It's just the world we live in today.

(Albert, hope you are enjoying your new position in Boise....Reb-)

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Wed, Apr 6, 2011, at 12:02 PM

Just an FYI for the webmaster: The site calender continues to reflect El Ada Bingo, which has unfortunately closed their doors due to sponsorship issues. Hopefully they will reopen soon, but their last night was March 25th, yet the site calender continues to promote it. Minor note, but thought I would mention it :)

-- Posted by Rocklady on Wed, Apr 6, 2011, at 9:02 AM

OpinionMissy, I remember playing kick-the-can as well. We played as long as we could still see the can, and by then, it was time to bathe and get ready for bed. You are indeed right, if the weather was nice, we were outdoors playing. That is how it still should be.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Wed, Apr 6, 2011, at 8:33 AM

Played the game Kick the Can well into the night. When it was nice, we did not stay in. We also managed not to get in trouble...and did it without a 6.5 million dollar facility that will serve 17% of this community. Imagine that! I also had parents that parented. Imagine that!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 8:15 PM


Indeed it is great that the work is being done. I still find it sad that it will eat into the funds that should have gone to the kids so they could play. But at least it is being done and thank goodness to the kind souls who donate time, etc.


Great post.

R.I.P. Wakelee and prayers and kind wishes to Bob who loved her so much and took care of her through her illness. She will be missed greatly.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 8:10 PM

Mountain Home lost a wonderful woman today. Wakelee Bledsoe touched so many peoples hearts with the wonderful care she gave her patients and the security she gave their parents knowing that they were in the best of care. I am so grateful to have had the blessing of having Wakelee in my life as a friend and someone who took such good care and love to my children. Thank you Wakelee for touching ours lives you will be missed but never forgotten.

-- Posted by proudmom3 on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 8:10 PM

Your right Albert, there is alot more than could have went with it, I just posted it the way I got it. Your also so right kids in my day could always find something to do that kept them out of trouble for the most part. Was alot of times parents didn't even know where you were at all day, but I think in the back of my mind they knew where to look if they wanted to LOL Thanks for the comment.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 3:06 PM

Eagle Eye, thank you for the stroll down memory lane. You didn't mention, but I'm confident you were thinking, that back in the day kids actually played with each other outside until well after dark and didn't need to be entertained by game boxes powered by electricity.

Best wishes,

Albert Clement

-- Posted by Albert Clement on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 3:00 PM

Guesss my age is showing knowing I remember to much as a kid in this e-mail.

In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized to her and explained, "We didn't have the green thing back in my day."

That's right, they didn't have the green thing in her day.

Back then, they returned their milk bottles, Coke bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, using the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.

But they didn't have the green thing back her day.

In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

But she's right. They didn't have the green thing in her day.

Back then, they washed the baby's diapers because they didn't have the throw-away kind. They dried clothes on a line, not in an energy

gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that old lady is right, they didn't have the green thing back in her day.

Back then, they had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a pizza dish, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, they blended and stirred by hand because they didn't have electric machines to do everything for you. When they packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, they used wadded up newspaper to cushion it, not styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.

Back then, they didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. They used a push mower that ran on human power. They exercised by working so they didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right, they didn't have the green thing back then.

They drank water from a faucet when they were thirsty, instead of using a plastic bottle every time they had a drink of water. They refilled pens with ink, instead of buying a new pen, and they replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But they didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the bus and kids rode their bikes to school or rode the school bus, instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. They had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And they didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

Isn't it a shame that we didn't have "the green thing" back then!

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 2:48 PM

Very, very sad.... She was a great person as well as a great doctor. She's going to be missed by so many. Prayers to her family.

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 2:46 PM

I just heard that Dr. Wakelee Bledsoe has died...R.I.P

-- Posted by Moanah on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 2:23 PM

Missy - I agree. The REC district should have donated the facilities outright considering so many kids use them (as well as the school district). It benefits the entire community to have clean, well-maintained, sturdy facilities to support our programs. The improvements were much needed and will truly benefit all the kids and the program as a whole. At least it's getting done, right? ;)

-- Posted by I(heart)myboys on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 1:07 PM


I think it is very sad that the Let's Play money is being used for that project. The WECRD takes in nearly $500,000 in tax dollars. They have taxed for 10 years and provide VERY LITTLE recreation, yet that is the charter of their creation. It is also the charter of their creation that they provide recreation for ALL---not a select few or a small group of people.

The Let's Play Grant is a great thing, if the money is spent the way it should be. The WECRD should have donated ALL of the money for that and allowed ECYB to put those funds toward the kids.

Nobody can go to meetings. Nobody knows what is going on or how money is being spent and I guess when the rubber meets the road, nobody cares. It is sad.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 12:52 PM

The WECRD Let's Play grant that Elmore County Youth Baseball received is paying for about half of the new dugout materials and labor. Two Eagle scout projects have provided some of the work as well (labor for painting, benches, roofs). City Parks and Rec refused to contribute anything and have not done any improvements to the fields in over 15 years. The fields do no belong the the School District, they are city-owned fields. A great deal of the materials and labor has also been donated by ECYB parents/coaches, etc. ECYB fundraisers go back into their program, such as field improvements and equipment. This is a project they have been working towards for a long time.

-- Posted by I(heart)myboys on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 12:31 PM


I would bet that the WECRD donated the funds for that project (that was a joke). Good question! Perhaps someone will respond with the facts on that one. With all of these "budget cuts" there sure are some nifty projects underway in this community. Most funded through taxes (grants, etc. included).

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 10:26 AM

I noticed some nice, new dugouts being built at the ballpark adjacent to the Annex building at the High School. Are these paid for by the school district or are they Parks and Rec facilities?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM

Where has all the money gone from the last 10-15 years?

What "cuts" have really been made and been stuck with?

In one of the worst economic downturns this country has seen since the Great Depression---WHEN DO THESE PEOPLE STOP DEMANDING MORE MONEY to live beyond their means? WHEN DOES IT END?

We have more people on food stamps, more people unemployed, record numbers of people not paying child support (in part due to job loss), property values in the toilet, record numbers of empty homes (and climbing) and the MHSD "needs" more money!


-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 10:01 AM

MHSD 193 Calling for a 5-year Plant Facility Election

*Resolution 11-05 - Calling for a 5-year Plant Facility Election


◦$185,000 less than last year's

◦Will lower current Plant Facility assessment rate

◦Cannot be used for salaries, benefits, or operating expenses

◦Can be used to maintain buildings, equipment, plumbing, electricity, and all other items in accordance with Idaho Code, Title 33

*Voters with their primary residence within the Mountain Home School District 193 boundaries may vote for the Plant Facility Levy

*Elmore County now runs all school district elections

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Apr 5, 2011, at 9:42 AM

This is a very important program that is going to get less funding


-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Apr 4, 2011, at 9:54 AM

As MtnHomeRes has said "Not 1 penny. Not 1 penny more until a full accounting of all monies received by the Mountain Home School District. I suggest hiring outside auditors with no stake in the district so we all can be sure that the results of the audit are fair and accurate. That would be money well spent." I couldn't agree more, now lets see what would come of that. Our good teachers and kids need to know that they are supported !!!

-- Posted by I_Might_Know on Mon, Apr 4, 2011, at 9:46 AM

A really good use of money wold have been for somebody within Jim Alexander's District to have run AGAINST him. Thank goodness people ran for the other seats on the MHSD Board that are open.

I also agree with MHRes. Where has all the money gone over the last 10-15 years? That is the multi-million dollar question. You cannot expect change without new blood. May the new folks win!!

Change is needed for sure.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Apr 4, 2011, at 8:59 AM

That's the ticket! Crank out poor legislation, waste our time and dollars, but wait! Lets increase the hours that we can sell liquor! Grand idea.

We can kick our uneducated kids out with a laptop and all the access to the liqour store that they can afford. Now, that's a plan to be proud of!

-- Posted by akbrand on Sat, Apr 2, 2011, at 10:39 AM

HaHaHaHa it's amazing!!! Really it's is!!!!

Spare a dime

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Apr 2, 2011, at 8:05 AM


I agree with you 100 per cent.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Fri, Apr 1, 2011, at 6:27 PM

Congratulations Tom Luna, Butch Otter and the state legislature for having the courage to buck the trend of putting more and more money into a broken and badly mismanaged public education system! Hooray for the students who will benefit greatly from better teachers and better equipment. The 21st century has arrived in Idaho. Everyone stand up and Cheer! Now, it's time to fix the broken school districts and their utter mismanagement that has run our schools into a financial quagmire. Not 1 penny. Not 1 penny more until a full accounting of all monies received by the Mountain Home School District. I suggest hiring outside auditors with no stake in the district so we all can be sure that the results of the audit are fair and accurate. That would be money well spent.

-- Posted by MtnHomeRes on Fri, Apr 1, 2011, at 12:35 PM

We should all take a moment this morning to thank the Almighty for our legislators. Not only did they silently lead us into this educational quagmire but they did it while patting each other on the back.

With the final leg of the educational stool before the house today some of our fearless housemembers are actually making their opponents have some lady, READ THE WHOLE BILL. What statesmanly skill. What genius. What cunning. This will surley get the bill voted down. How wounded must the proponents of 1184 be?

The defense of our teachers and education in general has been completely inept but at least our legislators suck. So on this day when education dies in Idaho the questions still remain, where is the competing bill? Who put the bill forward with reasonable education reform. Legislate by pouting when something you don't like comes up. By no means put forward your own legislation.


-- Posted by CountryDweller on Fri, Apr 1, 2011, at 10:04 AM

How many of us have spent a few bucks on a scratch game, lost it but smiled and said to ourselves, "Well, at least it helps the schools" And the lotto powers-that-be knew that was exactly what we would do. Buy and buy with the reationale, "I'm helping."

Wake up is exactly what many of us are doing. I love the game just as much as the next person but everytime I hear the amount that has been raised for public schools, I want to scream! HUH??? What the heck! It was a carrot that they hung out to get the people of any state to agree to the gambling! It was the icing on the cake but every since, I keep asking "Show me the money!" When we see our own town having to pass bonds and teachers being laid off; as well as the crys from students and teachers alike about lost funding and classes, I feel that the lotto has lied! They say that they have given billions! BILLIONS??? Really? How is that possible? SHOW THE IDAHO PEOPLE THE MONEY! WHY CAN'T THE PEOPLE HAVE A SAY ABOUT WHERE THIS MONEY GOES??? If we are giving our money to the lotto, then the money raised for education should be divided among the districts where the people could vote on the use of the funds. WE are the ones who have paid for the bonds, candy, gifts, wrapping paper, breads, magazines and other fund-raisers. Give us the money and watch how successful parents and teachers can be. We are used to be thrifty.

-- Posted by kimkovac on Wed, Mar 30, 2011, at 9:25 PM

Ok so what was the incident that caused Exit 99 to be closed today (3/30)? I saw it on here and on KTVB but nothing as to what the final cause was. All I heard was a white substance and that was it. Anyone?

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Mar 30, 2011, at 7:28 PM

The only bigger coup d'état against the the American way of Life than FOX News and conservative radio convincing so many that everything else is "liberal media," would be if the oil industry could convince a small but loud group of "christians" that global warming is a hoax because God promised not to flood the Earth after Noah. What? They already did? Hmmmm. Last time I checked it wasn't God burning over 400 million gallons of gasoline (alone) in the United States (alone) every DAY. Now is it?

-- Posted by YourMomWaterworth on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 1:59 PM

Just found this on the internet. Seems to be a future article????

March 28. 10 a.m. MOUNTAIN HOME CHECK -- The City of Mountain Home has been awarded $444,448 to reduce their risk from flooding through updating and improving the city's storm water control system. Idaho Bureau of Homeland Security Director Brigadier General Bill Shawver will present the city with a check during a ceremony. The media is welcome to attend and representatives from the City and BHS will be available to answer any questions after the ceremony.

Location: Mountain Home City Hall

Contacts: Robert Feeley, (208) 422-3033 or (208) 859-6943

The AP-Boise


-- Posted by bondyweb on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 9:17 AM

Just goes to show out much our Government is out of touch with the public, you really got to be kidding me.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 12:55 PM

Wow, come back a few days later and no new posts anywhere. Strange, v-e-r-y strange. LOL. Have a great day everyone.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Mar 21, 2011, at 1:21 PM

If he's so sure that the 'radiation threat, even for the workers, is very low' then why doesn't he haul his own butt to that plant and throw some H2O on those reactors himself. I'm sure the workers would appreciate the help. And when their equipment shows that radiation levels are spiking, he can tell them to quit being wusses and evacuating for no good reason, there is no problem here. This guy just MUST be a reliable source of info on the subject. It's not like there's a conflict of interest.... Wait...what, there is??

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Wed, Mar 16, 2011, at 10:44 PM

OMG... Anyone else see the snakesaleman, Gillespe fomr AEHI speak on KTVB? I have to ask when was he in Japan since the tsunami to know what exactly is going on there.? Also keep in mind that Payette Co. is the third county by my count that he has tried to build his dream in.

-- Posted by Old guy on Wed, Mar 16, 2011, at 10:15 PM

One down, one to go.


Scoutin, As long as people drive doing everything but paying attention to driving its going to continue to happen. Law enforcement can't do anything unless they see it. May as well quit wasting all the paint on painting the crosswalks. I have had so many close calls from me being in a crosswalk, people look at you, what the heck are you doing in my way. I have been in a crosswalk and seen people on the phone, fixing their hair, eating etc like I was no where around. Its pass due for the public to step up and see if the law can be enforced before someone is killed just because they wanted to cross the street.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, Mar 12, 2011, at 4:43 AM

Scoutin, All I can say is as someone who walks where ever I go for the most part I thnak you for stopping like you are supposed to. I see it all the time people don't seem to care if a car is stopped to let someone cross the street the other lane very rarely stops. I've also noticed people in cars don't always look both ways to see if anyone is trying to cross til they almost hit you. And alot of people stop thier cars in the middle of the crosswalk which is wrong also. Thanks again scoutin for being kind enough to stop and let a person walk or should I say try to cross the street.

-- Posted by transplanted on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM

Why do people think they are in such a hurry? I stopped at the cross walk on AB road next to the Dental Center, to let a student cross, something I swear is in the city/county codes. The cars on the other side of the road see this and they stop too, but the brown mini van with the calvin praying to Jesus sticker, coming up behind me cares not of this. The driver proceeds, without slowing down, to go around me and not even care that someone is trying to cross the road, let alone a child, at the place where they are suppose to. Now, I know we are all busy in this world and we have places to be, but is it necessary to put our blinders on so tight as to not care about hitting someone in a crosswalk? This person acted as if the person in the crosswalk and all the cars stopped were in the wrong. Now, if this person is so religious to display the calvin praying sticker, you would think they would have the mind to care about others... So to this person, I have memorized your silly stickers and make/model of your vehicle for one purpose... if I see you stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire in the pouring rain wonder why no one will stop to help you, I will slow down.. just enough to hit the puddle to soak you to the bone, since you have no care for others, I will show the appreciation and reciprocate it.

-- Posted by scoutin on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 6:39 PM

Take a look at the video Bill Gates recorded on this site. He says this is a revolution in education and that he uses this program for himself and his children. Granted he does fund this program, but this sure gives us all a clue as to how our method of learning is truly changing not only in our country but the world. I think Luna has some foresight and trying to prepare our state for what is coming.


-- Posted by midea on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:59 AM

All these people are leaving, why? Because 1000's of jobs are being hired overseas for cheaper wages and bigger profits. Pretty soon, we are going to have no industry and we will be at the mercy of other countries. Ever heard of the saying "being brought to your knees? well, folks - that is where we are headed.

-- Posted by bearhunter on Thu, Mar 10, 2011, at 8:37 PM

Fastest growing county in Idaho! Not Elmore, its population is declining. But we knew that.


Teton County was the fastest-growing county in Idaho, growing by 69.5 percent since 2000, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released today.

Elmore, Minidoka, Caribou, Bear Lake, Butte, Clark, Clearwater and Shoshone counties all lost population.

-- Posted by VicVega on Thu, Mar 10, 2011, at 3:31 PM

I see this coming weekend we do our spring time change, sure seems early, but late Sat night, early Sun morning time to spring ahead one hour.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Mar 9, 2011, at 5:37 PM

Law makers at work as usual, doesn't make if its Local, State, or the Feds and the sad part the voters keep putting all those Idiots in office and keep sending them back.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Mar 9, 2011, at 5:07 PM

The story has gone national!


-- Posted by Nomad4 on Wed, Mar 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM

FYI: Senator Mike Crapo staff plans regular remote office hours in Mountain Home on March 14th, 2011 at the Mountain Home Library, Conference Room between 1:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m.

See his website at http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleas...

-- Posted by bondyweb on Wed, Mar 9, 2011, at 1:46 PM

Well, there are many choices for parents today. If you can't home-school your kids, there is Richard McKenna which is a great charter school. And for those teachers who are losing their jobs, why not get together and offer your teaching skills to parents who would pool their money together to pay to have their kids taught out of the public school. With online public school courses and out of work teachers, it seems like a good idea. If you got 12-15 students per teacher, the parents could probably pay enough to help those teachers make a living and the kids would benefit from a small class size. Then all you need is a house with a nice size family room to convert into a classroom. I'f enrolled in virtual school, the state will provide a computer.

-- Posted by kimkovac on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 9:48 PM

Since so many of you dislike the SD here why are you not running for the school board and change things? I am so tired of the complaining so why are you not changing and before you jump on me,,,, I am doing things to change things. Why would anyone want to move to Idaho when the schools will not be up to par. Military wont want to come here cause of the schools and any defense contractors will have second thoughts. So instead of complaining go do SOMETHING!!!! Again I am doing something instead of just yakking. Dont ask either cause I wont tell you.

-- Posted by snafu on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 5:57 PM


Thank you for pointing that out, I did not read it like that. But as Scoutin says, the reasons they choose to live in Boise have little or nothing to do with the schools directly, it is cost, the same reason the Air Force would close the base. It becomes too expensive to live here, they too will live somewhere else.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 1:12 PM


I agree many of my troops have chosen to live in Boise, for two main reasons, one the rent is cheaper there, some of these renters think they have gold lined walls in MH, when in Boise they go for a fraction of the price. Second there major business competition, causing prices to be better, and in this economy, its a good choice. Yes, the drive is a nuisance, but thats the only one my troops come up with. I have lived here for 10 years now, and I have noticed the demeanor towards military personnel has waned, so some of my new troops feel they would be better off living in Boise.

Something I reliazed with the SD, they havent come up with an alternate option to Lunas plan. All I see is they want to keep things the way they are, stick it to the tax payer, but they keep the golden egg. Sorry, we all have tightened our belts as tax payers, its time for the SD to find cost cutting methods, maybe the people wouldnt be so angry if you would come up with some options instead of crossing your arms and huffing. I noticed the bond wasnt enough, but we all knew the 390th was leaving, which means the school numbers would drop. So, maybe the bond wasnt necessary after all, you cant say the 390th leaving was from left field, it was a known. So, the SD is now having to cut teachers because of that, and still "need" the bond and want to keep the things as usual, while the rest of us (the tax payers) have to do with less. Im sorry to rant, it just bothers me, that we are "expected" to pay more and more taxes while they get to keep everything, in this economy it jsut cant work.

-- Posted by scoutin on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 12:41 PM

If I remember correctly, Tim took ANOTHER cut last year. And haven't admins also taken cuts?

Would you coach without pay? That's a job.

-- Posted by jdcb on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 12:39 PM

Uh oh.....Luna's 1108 passed the house. As the IEA has foretold, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood". Poor poor education. It will never be the same.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 12:33 PM

Jtrotter- I think you misunderstood Mr. Alexander's comment. He did not mean that the AFB would close, but that military families could choose to live in Boise, etc. instead of bringing their students and businesses to MH. Plenty of military personnel choose to do so currently, but many stay in MH because of their children.

As for sports- I think cutting funding for sports would be beneficial, however that would mean having to pay to play, and not everyone can afford it. Sports are important to learn teamwork, effective communication skills, and the importance of hard work; they keep students involved.

I don't think we should be paying the coaches- if you coach it should be for the love of the sport and a passion for keeping it alive in the area you're in. That's where pay cuts should also be found.

I completely agree that our district administrators should take a pay cut- we keep cutting teacher pay and the admin swears on the importance of teachers while continuing their handsome salaries.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 12:08 PM

I love how the SD say they dont know where else to cut money. How about start with cutting your bloated paychecks at the top, you are way over paid for the service you provide, for the size of community you provide it for, my opinion. If you were really into saving teachers and caring about the students you would have looked at that first. And as for the extracurricular activities, these need to be looked at too, as I have said before, no one really cared in the work force if I played iron man badminton in HS or not, they only care if I know the job and can make them money...


-- Posted by scoutin on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 10:14 AM

Wonder how those poor children ever survived in those one room schoolhouses?

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 9:40 AM

Why is there no mention of cutting sports programs to save money, or is this area considered off limits when it comes to budget cuts?

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 9:32 AM

"When you talk about the number of jobs you're going to lose and the number of services you're going to lose then you have to understand military services don't have to live here. Our concern is they may choose to live somewhere else," he said. "I don't know that there's anywhere else for us to cut. Now it's just jobs." Quote taken from KTVB.com, Mountain Home School District: Ed reform plan will lead to teacher layoffs.

Oh the drama. MHAFB will not close because nine teachers had to lose their jobs. It could close because the taxes become so high that the Service members can no longer afford to live here.

"The district says the plan is to cut about 18 teaching positions total. Nine are a result of Luna's plan. The other nine are due to fluctuating student numbers from military families on the move." Blaming the military for the possible layoff of nine teachers isn't going to help keep them here either.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM

These are our elected officials, they are content to let us suffer, as they gain more and more and refuse to budge after they have gutted us. This was foreseen when they wanted the school bond and now its more apparent as they tell our children one-sided views, and not do their jobs. My children dont go to school to hear your rants about "woe is me", they are there to learn. My taxes pay for me to defend this country and I do my job well. They also pay for you to teach my children, not give them your opinion on topics they cant effect. Like I said earlier, I have taken a pay and benefits cut, and Im ok with it because I know its for the greater good of the nation and my children. I expect you, our elected officials and their workers to do the same. Our founding fathers gave us the ability to fix this, I look forward to election day.


-- Posted by scoutin on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 9:00 AM


-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Mar 8, 2011, at 6:09 AM

they did mention the lower enrollment, but the stated the layoffs were due to Luna's plan

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 10:38 PM

Interesting. I listened to 7's report and *I* heard the lower enrollment mentioned.

I do find it interesting, though, that they would cut teachers over sports. Figures

-- Posted by jdcb on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 10:35 PM

OMG... channel 7 KTVB, just played the most alarming segment on Mountain Home SD having to eliminate 8 positions.. Alexander gave the most unconvincing interview. He himmed and hawed about which classes would be cut. Possibly Welding.. Come on you announce layoffs and you really have not clue which ones. PLEASE. Oh yea they also forgot to say that real reason for the layoffs; less students to teach.

Oh no it was all due to Luna's plan. Please get it together Mountain Home School District, which is it..

-- Posted by workingbee on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 10:09 PM

Thanks for the comments Derek, Midea, OM. I think many parents are finding that their kids have been "preached" to anti-Luna gossip. It is sad that there are some Teachers whose contracts are not being renewed. However, they fail to tell that 8 of the teachers were not being renewed anyways and it is not connected to Luna. It is never easy to make the tough decisions to change things, streamline and cut the budget. It takes a person of character to tell it like it is. Nobody else was coming up with any solutions and Luna stepped up to the plate knowing that it was not gonna be popular. There is a silent majority who agree. It is time to stop being silent!

-- Posted by kimkovac on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 9:50 PM

Kim, I totally agree with you on the Luna matter. Saturday the wife and I had to have a talk with our children, because the teachers at the JH and HS have been feeding them a heavily one sided view on Lunas bill. I told them to read the bill and become informed, dont listen to or believe what anyone tells them, and dont spread second hand information. Its truly sad how they are trying to use our children to further their agenda. This economy is tight and it will get worse if we cant cut the fat from the budget. Ive taken a pay and benefits cut, and I understand why and Im fine with it. The rest of the nation needs to get on board with it and work through this period, it will show our kids we are more accountable than just whinning about it. I think the next phase should be the cutting the fat from the state and federal lawmakers pay and benefits... its only fair.


-- Posted by scoutin on Mon, Mar 7, 2011, at 11:15 AM


I have proof first hand. I have a child at Hacker who told me that the teacher said that a lot of teachers were going to lose their job because of the Luna bill, and that this would probably be the last year that this teacher would probably have a job here. My child came home all worried because the teachers were going to lose their job bacause of Luna. I had to explain that part of the reason some of the teachers were no longer going to be teaching here is because there has been a decrease in the number of students in this district, and the less students there are, the less teachers are needed. I had to explain that the loss is not all because of the Luna bill. Now try explaining that to a 5th or 6th grader.

-- Posted by midea on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM


I think I understand...you don't know anything, but, you know people who do. Thanks for the "proof."

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 6:07 PM

Would like to hear what you don't like about Luna's plan? I just read it and curious what you are thinking?

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 3:52 PM

Angel Flight


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 3:28 PM




more toys for the boys

H. APPROVE REQUEST TO PURCHASE five (5) Bushmaster M4A3 Carbines from Mountain Sports in the amount of

$7,500.00 for the Police Department

Bushmaster M4 A3 Price: $954.99

Suggested Retail: $1,251.00


$7,500 ? do the math !

what next for our SWAT TEAM an armored vehicle ?

-- Posted by barkingmad on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 2:36 PM

Concerning the Luna education,my blog shows some proof. It is unfortunate but the proof is in the mouths of babes. I want my kids to learn about local and state government. However, I don't appreciate teachers using the classroom to gain support for their agenda. I have discussed this with my kids and I am told that the teachers are talking about this bill from their point of view. I am told that the students haven't got the bill to read. If my kid wants to make a stand for or against a bill, they should read it first. Teachers have a right to their opinions, but when it comes to this bill and getting kids emotionally involved by encouraging a walk-out and protest is wrong! They haven't gotten all the information in order to make-up their own minds. I don't want my kid protesting something that they haven't even read. I don't want Teachers giving their emotionally charged opinions to kids. I was even told that a few teachers were upset that the protest wasn't more organized!

-- Posted by kimkovac on Sat, Mar 5, 2011, at 6:43 AM

Search for man missing near Mountain Home.


-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 10:38 PM


If you had done your research, the "proof" of what teachers are doing is all over this paper. Even the students are offering up the "proof." The "guilty" parties know who they are---Mr. Gilbert knows who they are and the parents who write on here know who they are.

The situation, JYD, no matter how you want to sugar coat it is this. The teachers are coaching the kids on the parts of the bill they want them to know about as opposed to making copies of, directing them to a web page, etc. where these kids could read the entire bill and form their own opinion. If you feel this is the proper subject matter for regular class time, well, then MH has much larger issues on its hands. It is an abuse of power for teachers to use class time to push their agendas. Call Mr. Gilbert. I am sure he will tell you there was a problem and that it has been dealt with.

Now that was your put up; now do you think you can close the ole pie hole and leave the keystrokes for those of us forward thinking folks?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 10:18 PM

"Opinion" Missy,

Your words, "The MHSD is using class time to further their agenda and is using stuidents as pawns."

My words...Put up or shut up. If you have factual information to support your remark, then please contact the MHSD office. I believe they will work diligently to correct this claim of unethical behavior on the part of their employees. Be sure to name names, and be sure to be specific about events; because, nobody in a reasonable world answers to anonymous folks making general comments.

If you can't name the source of your facts, then you are the one responsible for the "opinion."

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 5:55 PM

Actually, Opinion Missy, Mr. Gilbert is a great person - you obviously don't know him.

-- Posted by highschoolmom on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 4:45 PM

VT, on that Kool-Aid again?

"The integrity of the classroom is paramount in the Mtn Hm school district and the focus should be on learning."

Since when? Key word..."SHOULD." Yep. Mr. Gilbert is a heck of a guy. We pay him well. I wonder if he and Murray came up with that line for you just before Gilbert drew that short straw.

What a freakin JOKE.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 12:53 PM

I love living here. Just got a call from Mr Gilbert from the school district. A complete professional and total 180 from what I was told last night. The integrity of the classroom is paramount in the Mtn Hm school district and the focus should be on learning. They are on it. Thanks Mr. Gilbert.

-- Posted by VT on Fri, Mar 4, 2011, at 8:32 AM

VT, interesting post. Mr. Murray, what say you?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 9:58 PM

I will sign my name. I say it the way I see it after much research and fact finding. If I see you on the street, I will say to your face what I type. If I think you are an idiot, I will tell you. If I think you are less than honest, I will tell you and generally list the facts/how/why. While I may have less tact than a Sherman Tank in a china shop...I sign my name. That is the difference on here. Thank you Brenda for your post.

Now, to close. The WECRD is still not being honest with its public. The MHSD is using class time to further their agenda and is using students as pawns. The article on the WECRD/YMCA left out some pretty important details that the public has a right to know such as:

Everyone will be taxed for this facility and will have to also pay a fee to join.

Taxes will increase each year through 2024 for this.

The project will be phased, and the last phase will have a pool (in theory anyway).

Of ALL the people being taxed in this community, only 17% are projected to use this facility (sounds like another golf club).

The facility with the pool will run over 200-300K in the red EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

Taxes will ONLY go away if YEARLY donations can be raised to reach the amount raised in taxes...NEARLY $450,000.00 PER YEAR!!

Pools are NEVER-EVER money makers. So, be prepared to pay baby pay in the name of POOLS so 17% of our community can be served!

Best regards folks,

Tracy Lauric

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 9:44 PM

My son goes to the Jr High. He was asked to sign a petition, by a student, during his math class, that said there wouldn't be art or gym next year if the reforms went through. He did. Later he asked for it back because he wanted to scratch his name off and the student refused. I called the school district to ask if this was ok and I got that because the school doesn't endorse it, it is ok. I had to ask for the person to take down my name and number and ask someone to call me back.

I have a couple of issues here.

1. Is this tacit approval by allowing it to happen in the classroom?

2. Is this what the kids are allowed to do with their time?

3. If the claim is that the teacher didn't know it was going on does the teacher really have that weak of a grasp of whats happening in the classroom? The student passed the petition around.

4. I understand that people are passionate about this issue but do I really have to start wondering about what type of political atmosphere he is subjected to in school now?

5. Is this the new standard? NRA, NOW, Pro-choice, Pro-life, drill baby drill, save the whales. At least lets get it accredited so he can get some poly-sci out of it.

I explained that the time to be thinking about whether you should sign a petition or not is before you sign it. But its the first petition he's ever seen so.... I also told him that he did a good job asking for it back because he didn't know what it was about. I asked him what if someone asked you to sign some paper and then you found out it was signing away your XBOX. That got his attention.

He isn't irreparably damaged or traumatized but it sure is disappointing.

-- Posted by VT on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 8:31 PM

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

-- Posted by snafu on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 5:30 PM

I try not to be a moral judge on here and stick to the basic rules that we lay down. We have pretty much stuck to no cussing and outing anyone. I do not make moral or judgment calls no matter my personal feeling of disgust at how people "type" to each other because I would almost bet money that if they were not anonymous or standing face to face with someone they would not talk like that, or maybe I would just like to think so. Bottom line people out there are disgusted and appalled at the name calling and how people are talking to each other so to speak, behind a closed door. They are taking offense at the name calling and in particular at the use of some words, in particular "retard". This is just one example. Enough is enough. Not only do I have to read some of this garbage but I have others calling and expressing their thoughts and flagging it as offensive. I don't know about you but I would not want my grandchildren using that word in any case so I ask the adults to refrain also. Please all refresh yourself "if the shoe fits" to the statement we have at the top of our banter box which refers to that and all blogs and or stories. Please understand I am not calling out everyone. A good majority of the time I love all the stories but I just feel it has gotten way out of hand on the playground. "Somebodies" could really use a time out. You know who you are. Be respectful. If we choose to delete comments, that is our right as an owner of a public forum, privately owned. I feel we have been very fair. We don't want bad apples spoiling a resource and tool for all. Thank you.

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-- Posted by Brenda Fincher BusMgr MHNews on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 12:52 PM

Roy "Lynn" McCallum: Well said!

And to add a little more fodder to this group's behavior - "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Vice President Hubert Humphrey

-- Posted by bondyweb on Thu, Mar 3, 2011, at 9:09 AM

Shooting of 2 US Airmen today in Germany


-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 2:34 PM

Just read on the news part of the Internet, "The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals."

What a shame that people have to go to such extremes to make sure people hear them, even if they don't want to hear them.

I have fought for this country and for the right to freedom of speech, which the Supreme Court is upholding, but I sure wish people could take other people's feeling and opinions in mind when they hold these types of public protests. At a Funeral? At a funeral of a fallen Soldier?

Just thought I would share MY opinion.

-- Posted by Roy "Lynn" McCallum on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 11:12 AM


-- Posted by Roy "Lynn" McCallum on Wed, Mar 2, 2011, at 10:59 AM
Response by Brenda Fincher Bus.Mgr.MHNews:
and your point or period is????? Lol - sorry, just too funny compared to what i have to read on here on a daily basis.

For the Facebook users beware what is being released about you.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Mar 1, 2011, at 5:21 PM

Wow. My tax dollars well at work! Another reason I do not support the MHSD.

I agree with some posters on here. It makes the point on why reform is needed. These kids have no respect. The MHSD has no respect for the taxpayers if they give these kids a free pass. Perhaps open campus needs to go away until these children learn the meaning of respect.

Most of you needed to be in class---learning. You not only disrupted school for the staff but the kids who were respectful enough to stay in school while this GARBAGE was going on. If you kids are going to protest and rally, do it when class is out. And as far as the teachers not having a part in this bull! You kids are pawns in their game. Wise up.

Reform is needed. If you kids can disrupt school, city services (i.e. police, etc.) and class time...then it is obvious that you children have way too much time on your hands.

When you pay the bills...then you can gripe. Until then, leave it to those who pay the taxes to support your walk in the park!

Tracy Lauric

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM


If it wasn't so sad, it is extremely hilarious! I'm talking about the photo on your blog!! Kids out protesting education reform only to prove that reform is needed!!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 7:07 PM


My blog does not seem to be showing up on the blog list, but I encourage all to give it a look-over.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 6:34 PM
Response by Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews:
I do not know why it is not showing up your blog in the rotation. That is a technical issue beyond me. Our web master is out this week so I do not know if I can get it remedied right away but it was not intentional.

Nomad4 - Newsflash....your taxes pay for many, many, MANY other wasteful and bigger things than 1 day of school. I'd complain about those instead, but that's your opinion and your choice. Since school started two weeks earlier and the last day of school got pushed out farther than originally planned, I'd be willing to bet that your kid has more than enough required days of school. The teachers didn't walk out. Perhaps this could be a learning experience for all. I'm sure your kid learned something today, even if it was about protests, rights, the education system, etc. If not, he/she didn't WANT to learn. Sometimes "life" is also a good teacher.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 5:29 PM

So glad my property taxes paid for a wasted day of school!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 4:36 PM

Yes, it was an excused absence! Yes, my child, who stayed in class wanting to be taught instead did nothing ALL day, thanks to the stupid protest!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 4:15 PM

In my opinion, these students show no respect for the teachers they claim to be standing up for. Walking out and leaving a teacher to stand in front of an empty class is not a show of respect or support. This act may have carried much more weight if it had happened after school.

I will be curious to see if this is an excused absence.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 2:36 PM

I am not responding in support of the Luna bills but I do believe our children/grand children are being coached in many cases, particularly in the instance of the "walk out" today. I agree with so many of the responses that they are being used as pawns by others agendas. I saw the same thing during the schools request for taxpayer's funds. There is so much emotion and using the kids to emphasis an employee's opinion is a cheap shot. They have all the right in the world to voice their opinions, I just wish they were fully informed and educated in the situation not hearing only half the stories and this should be done personally and not through the school classroom time. Teachers should be teaching not offering their own agenda and battle even if I totally agree and believe they need outside support in helping them speak. It should not be at the encouragement of our kids. The adults should be the ones holding weekend rallies to bolster support.

-- Posted by Dragon Fly on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 2:16 PM

Thank you lilmiss for your take on the protest and what you have been told but what about others teachers I just don't believe everyone is reading all this on line or watching the news. I have grandkids in the High School and I know what they were doing this morning. I will get more feed back on that later after school. Not getting into what is legally or not but they did not have the right to up set other classes that were not part of the protest. I will give you credit for trying to keep a level head with your comments, others need to do the same. Teachers have no right to talk with the students about their jobs and money for the District. I am not saying take the students out of the picture with what is going on with free speech either. Parents also play a part in the kids by what they have to say.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 12:58 PM

For the record- none of my teachers have discussed the Luna Bill until today. ONE teacher explained to us the state's reasoning for getting rid of unions. His ONE opinionated statement- He did not understand why the government was nullifying contracts bargained in good faith between two parties. He compared it to a person bargaining a contract to get a house built. That was the only time a teacher "Indoctrinated" me on this issue.

The walk-out was legal- I didn't participate because I feel that in Mountain Home with no capitol building to walk out to and protest all the situation did was make our students look immature- further suppressing our voices- however the point of a protest is to stand for your beliefs even in the face of punishment. For the most part the students had every right to walk out. The catch was when some of them came screaming down the halls- that warrants a punishment because it certainly disturbed the educational process- my government class was in an uproar for at least 20 minutes.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 12:41 PM

$57.2 million is the estimated price tag just for five years for a statewide contract under Luna's plan. Wonder which of his supporters will be getting that contract?? Computers and the programs are soon outdated. Maintenance and replacement costs will be high. Seems like a bottomless money pit. Price tag will only increase after the initial five years. Less student/teacher face time? With Obama running the main freakshow, folks will be working longer just to keep food on the table and roofs over their heads. Can our kids really do without more one-on-one time? We are humans, not robots. Read recently somewhere (can't remember where) that the author writing the piece has never heard a kid say how talking to a computer has ever turned their life around. Bet many TEACHERS have helped kids do this tho.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 12:10 PM

More attention needs to be paid attention to what teachers are telling the kids in the class room. I don't believe all their time is spend on education but alot more attention is given to what the State is trying to do with the Luna bills that are being worked on. Same thing went on with the last 5.6 million with teachers getting involved with the students to help get that passed. You never see the top people in the District taking any pay cuts. Its always cut programs and pink slip some teachers. I find it hard to believe none of the teachers knew this was going to happen. But its only my opinion which doesn't count for much.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:57 AM

I agree there are always consequences, but do all the teachers get fired for past protests? Do all the people who protest peacefully at the statehouse get arrested? This crap that Luna has done affects each and every one of them, and us as they are our future leaders, the teachers, their families, etc........... According to KTVB.com, Luna's office has no comment at this time. Of course not! All they care about is lining the pockets of all of his technology cronies who supported him. If a stand is not taken, and a voice is not heard, then nothing changes. Yes that is how we ended up with Obama.... too many people decided not to get involved and let their voice be heard by voting. I personally didn't like either of the candidates, but sometimes you have to pick the lesser of the two evils to keep the other from invading. Obama - now there's a real piece of work that needs to step down.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:41 AM

Lots of things sound good until you realize there may be consequences for the actions, and it's easy to get all the kids in an uproar about making a difference. That's how we got stuck with Obama.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:25 AM

Good for them!! Arrested?? Get real! They see teachers and many other workers protesting all the time. They do as we do, not as we say. They are standing up for what they feel is a threat to their education. We tell them to stand up for what is right and that's exactly what they are doing! As long as it is peaceful, then good for them. Sure there will be a few who just tag along to get out of school, but these kids will be our future very soon, and they also have freedom of speech and the right to protest. Check KTVB.com.....it's become a statewide student protest.

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:12 AM

Thanks eagle eye. I haven't seen Boise paper this a.m. Appreciate your info.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:10 AM

Looks like this walkout was planned, read an article on the Statesman the walk out has been going on in other schools across southern Idaho.


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 11:05 AM

Just talked with the school and police dept about the walkout protest going on right now. Apparentally approximately 75-100 highschool kids walked out in protest of the Luna bill. As told to me, Mr. Johnson tried to stop them but they walked out anyway. The have from what I understand congregated at Carl Miller Park. No other schools are involved, just the highschool.

Talked with assistant police chief and suggested they arrest each one for truancy and then let them know they can protest after 3:00. She said that she is going to check with the school resource officers and see what they are doing with it.

I also contacted Mtn. Home News and they do have a reporter out there on site.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 10:58 AM

Thanks Joe, I've been playing with cornbread recipies, and would love to try another one. Post away!

And thanks for thinking of me! I appreciate that very much.


-- Posted by jessiemiller on Mon, Feb 28, 2011, at 8:45 AM


This about sums up why the country is inthe state it is in. A song by Bread---they knew where we were headed way back way. Enjoy the tune.

Many want the same services with less money. Few want cuts. What do ya do?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 27, 2011, at 10:07 AM

Jessie you out there lol

I think it was you that was looking for a better recipe for cornbread, if so I saw what could be a good one on TV today if you want I can post it, looked simple and suppose to be moist. Let me know.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 2:52 PM

According to the newsletter that accompanied my statement, Councilman Schroeder is partially correct. The tax withholding was affected by changes to the tax law, tax tables and the expiration of other legislation.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 9:33 AM

Councilman Schroeder

What you stated is true but sure as heck doesn't make it right. The Government is suppose to be working to cut the budget before what looks like they are going to shut the Government down on the 4th. Those jokers in DC can't even past a budget for the current fiscal years and we are about half way thru this fiscal year. I put the blame on both parties for acting out the budget in this matter. They weren't elected to set on their hands and and really do nothing. About the only thing they have passed is Obamacare without even reading it and thats going to raise taxes again. Congress needs to pull their heads out and get down to the brass tacks and do the job they were elected to do and stop wasting so much money on their own districts and sending the billions to foreign countries to help them out, start taking care of Aamerica frist, that is where our tax dollars should be going.

Throw in the WECRD and their taxing ways, stick in the local bonds and levies for everything under the sun and the State is right there not doing their best to control State spending. My pay has got to the point I am not sure I am going to keep making it month to month. People talk about how medicare costs the government, take a look at what the retired have taken out of Social Security monthly for medicare, sure its cheaper than people that have to pay larger amounts for health care but taking these large amounts out of the retired people. the government appears to try to make them homeless and in the food hand out lines. Taxes from local, to county, to State, to the Feds is way out of line. My comment is all my opinion but just the way I see it.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 9:18 AM

Bringing the Saudis here is a good thing--Right?


-- Posted by Nomad4 on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 8:49 AM

Our "Government" at work. More taxes to support raises and pensions for those in DC. The United States...the land of opportunity.

Can you see my white flag?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 8:37 AM

What do all of these things have in common?

3% tax increase per year until AT LEAST 2024.

NOT able to operate without a tax subsidy or in kind contribution yearly.

Phased facility that will not be completed until 2024.

Will operate at least $200K PLUS in the RED per year.

Will serve only 17% of this community but ALL will be taxed.

Operations/management fees to cost local taxpayers 20% of operational budget (which has not been worked into the financials yet)...i.e "budget" numbers.

Here is a hint folks. This is what the WECRD, Mark Hiddleston, Jack Walbourn and the YMCA have planned for this community! This meeting, so you can see for yourself is soon to hit the net. Stay tuned.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 8:32 AM

Last year about this time, everyone's federal withholding was reduced, increasing our take-home pay, as part of the "Making Work Pay", which expired this year.


Since it expired, our withholding goes back to what it was before this was implemented:


-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 8:29 AM

Can't speak for everyone but I just got my Military Retired Statement and my Federal Income Tax withheld is going up over 22 % for me 1 Mar thats a big increase that I never saw coming. Now I am wondering just what they are going to withhold on Social Security. I guess this is the Governments way of boosting jobs and no tax increase, yea right another slipped in on us. Knowing its going to apply to everyone pay check.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sat, Feb 26, 2011, at 7:50 AM

Just a thought / question.. The schools all have ( or mostly all have ) computer labs right? So if an online componant is going to be required then instead of giving out laptops or having people purchase them why not make use of the current computers in the labs by having a class period with a monitor / teacher in the room. That way the resources which are already in place could be used and there would be more structure (I would think ) to the process.

-- Posted by just1 on Thu, Feb 24, 2011, at 10:08 PM

To help clear up the Public notice on the City web site about the DEQ and the water loan. Click on the red box, once its open scroll down and on the bold black print, click on it and it will say when, where and date of the public meeting. I was confused about all of it so called the City to find out the info.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, Feb 24, 2011, at 4:46 PM

Two of Luna's three education bills passed the senate today.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Thu, Feb 24, 2011, at 4:11 PM

Whats this? Recreation without a 900 thousand dollar begging campaign, taxes for ten years and a pool? Is that even possible?


-- Posted by VT on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 2:01 PM

I find it hilarious when I hear that Lunas plan will be "devastating" to education and do "irreparable" damage but in the next sentence there's a complaint about not knowing what is in it. Oh yeah and that if this goes through it will be law and there will no way to fix it. Bunch of drama queens. At least this is cutting without knowing whats in it versus spending without know whats in it.

I hate the laptop part of this. It makes you wonder what laptop company, IT firm, and Online Educators paid off whoever put that fecal matter in the bill. "Hey we need to save money but by spending money on laptops and the millions of peripherals that goes with them we save money on mumble mumble mumble. It's not like we led you into this financial mess or anything. Just trust us we save money."

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 6:52 AM

What the heck is in the Luna Education Bill(s)? If it takes 3 bills to change things then maybe "we" need more time to be read, digest and understand this issue BEFORE it goes any further. To clarify, I'm only against these bills because I don't understand them. It also seems like there is a lot of fertilizer being spread across the news and internet about the Bills...if you get my drift.

The one portion I am totally against is the laptop computer being given to students. The pens was once mightier than the sword. Becoming an expert in the use of that pen before moving on to the computer would be a good first step to improving Education.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 10:11 PM

The show is getting better!!!.... Hold on I need some more pickle juice and a tea bag.

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 9:25 PM

The MHSD Board NEVER wanted to hear what the public had to say or their "ideas" and they make that abundantly clear at their meetings. They knew what they were going to do, when and how they would do it and that was it. Now, once again...it will come back and bite them in the posterior. The only reason they have public meetings is because they are required by law. If they were not required, you can bet your last dollar they would not have them. The MHSD is just like the WECRD...they are above the law and could care less what any of us think---unless of course you agree with them.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 7:31 PM

Yep, Luna took action. Now, everyone cries. At least someone had the Kahoonas to stop going down the same old path. Talk and discussion should have been done long time ago.

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 7:12 PM

I read on the Statesman last week Luna couldn't get public support so him and Otter decided to do the Bill themselves and put it to the Legislative Folks to sort it all out and pass the Bill this year. There has been some changes made. In my opinion Luna and Otter didn't give the Legislatsion much for a chance to fix problems with the Bill. Just hurry up and pass it. What a way to do business as important as it is. What going to happen when it passes and it becomes Law that can't be fixed.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 2:55 PM

Directly from the MHSD web:

"...A major concern this board has is of the underlying tone of the plan. Mr. Luna states that it will give more control to local boards. In reality, it is clear that it is a political hot potato that capitalizes on an emergency and the state is trying to distance itself from the criticism. The controversial parts of the plan must be addressed at the state level instead of being pawned off to the local board to deal with. Any unclear message local boards attempt to interpret only causes further chaos, and chaos benefits no one. After all, this is the state legislature's idea and they must own it..."

When will our local MHSD take some ownership? Be accountable! Why should the tough decisions be made at the state level as opposed to the local level? Oh yeah---so the MHSD Board can shift the blame for bad management and decisions.

So, MHSD Board...what part of this do YOU own? You folks decided to "capitalize" on a made up emergency in the form of a tax levy! Where is the real chaos here?


-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM

Yes, he is asking questions. But, surely he has some suggestions? I am not denying the questions have to be asked and the questions should have been asked many months ago, but he must have some ideas at this point. Not saying he is incorrect, so please don't read it that way. He is very close to what is going on and also am sure he knows more about the pitfalls than most of us. So, what would some of his recommendations be?

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 11:42 AM


The process of fixing what is broken requires asking the questions first in order to truly identify the problem. We hear some grand plan and are told how it is going to solve so many economic issues while placing blame on a group of people, and too many of us don't want to lose faith in this grand plan by hearing the questions. These questions haven't been addressed by the "planners"; questions lead to discussion, awareness, revision, better planning. And unless the questions are addressed, reshaping a plan cannot take place. Seems to me, Senator Corder is asking important questions for all of us to mull over and try to make sense of so education reform is truly that, and not "educide" (yes, I took the liberty to make up that word.) We should ALL be asking questions and seeking the answers. If there are none or the answers are unacceptable, the plan is not ready to be put into place. We know this. We can't just ignore the details and hope for the best. Our children, our culture, our future depend on us asking the questions and focusing on what is best for kids, because whether we have kids or not, they are the ones who need the opportunity to be "formed" into the young citizens who will become our peers and the professionals we seek. Questions shouldn't scare us; it is when there are no acceptable answers that we should stop the process and demand a closer look. Again, it seems to me Senator Corder doesn't have the answers; he is asking for them. He is asking those with the plan to consider the questions, as well as to come up with acceptable answers to the questions.

-- Posted by mh.educated.adult on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 10:50 AM

I read Tim Corder's blog and then went to his facebook blog site that he gave the address for. Here is my comment on that blog and one paragraph,(not his complete narrative), from the info he wrote about the SD meeting to be held this week regarding teacher pay for performance.

Tim's narrative: "Preparing for next week's meeting on the 23d at Mountain Home we now have three bills to discuss. The pay-for-performance bill is S1110 and still does not identify a funding source. Much of this process is represented to be a matter of local control and flexibility. Only one of the three measurements for teacher performance is selected locally from a state provided list of alternatives. It appears that both "growth" and "excellence" performance measurements will be using the same ISAT spring test. I am struggling with the implications of how that works. It also appears that each district might be competing against other districts. In Meridian a school with three grades has a principal and three assistant principals, three counselors and a host of other support personnel. Let's see how Mountain Home, Horseshoe Bend, or Idaho City competes against that."

My remark to Tim: "Tim, You ask a lot of questions, but I don't see any plan or suggestions. What would you do?

I did look at your blog, and see that the district is having a meeting on 23rd regarding teacher pay for performance. What might be your suggestions?"

-- Posted by midea on Mon, Feb 21, 2011, at 9:25 AM

another resident: Good "tongue in cheek" humor. So lets stretch this out a little further. I vote for dismantling the entire Idaho Department of "Babysitting" as this is not what I'm suppose to be paying taxes for.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 10:33 PM

Found this online and had to share it...

by: Eedroj Remier

Are you sick of high paid teachers? Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - baby sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM

with 45 min. off for lunch and plan -- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.

Now how many do they teach in day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 peryear. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children

X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)

-- Posted by another resident on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 8:51 PM

Is this a sign better weather is on the way, Just counted 5 Robins in my back yard, Seems early to be seeing them.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM


For anyone who cares...the ENTIRE YMCA letter to the WECRD. This outlines SOME of the terms to keep the YMCA involved in Mountain Home, Idaho.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 20, 2011, at 8:59 AM

Let it rain.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Feb 19, 2011, at 5:06 PM

Yes Vic, it was reported and the EPA and DEQ are on it. Need to do a FOIA Request to get official info.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 8:39 PM

OM - was that excavation reported anywhere else? I wonder if the EPA knows, or should know.

-- Posted by VicVega on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 11:00 AM

Here is some real news.

There is an old dump here in town. People have been illegally excavating this area for the metal FOR MONTHS!

They have unearthed God knows what and sold this metal for a gain. Now, all of these things that should be covered up so they do not get in the air are free to blow at will. And how about an issue maybe with ground water. Do you think they notified people who own homes close to this area? Heck NO! There is a city police officer out there nearly daily and nobody knew what was going on.

You did not read about that in this paper. Why is that?

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Feb 18, 2011, at 6:54 AM

justcantwatch:, I agree with you.

homedog: I disagree with you like justcantwatch disagreed with you.

-- Posted by midea on Thu, Feb 17, 2011, at 12:43 PM

Privatize Govt. housing. If this goes the same as everything else contracted, wow! Talk fraud waste and abuse. KP and weekly details used to keep a base up. Now it's fraud waste and abuse.

-- Posted by goatbeard on Thu, Feb 17, 2011, at 12:13 PM

Anti-health care reform measure (aka the unconstitutional "nullification bill") approved by the Idaho House

Seven Republicans joined the Democrats in opposing the legislation, which passed 49-20.

A bill declaring the federal health care overhaul void in Idaho was sent to the Senate, despite an Idaho attorney general's opinion and Democratic objections that the measure is unconstitutional.

Here's what OUR buffoon of a lawmaker said on the House floor:

REP. PETE NIELSEN, R-Mountain Home

"We have heard from the people. We are trying to exert their voice."

Yeah, well you didn't exert my voice Pete. Matter of fact you just wasted a whole lot of taxpayer dollars and put my family's health care at risk. Thanks a lot you joker.

-- Posted by homedog on Thu, Feb 17, 2011, at 7:55 AM

I was going to put up all kinds of numbers showing how much it was going to cost the state to buy all the out of state providers of private education (Pennsylvania, Delaware, and I believe Maine [could be wrong on Maine] but let's be honest A) I don't want to put that much effort into such a futile effort. B) No matter how much money is slid under the tables to the State leaders, (i.e. private funds, re-election campaigns ect...) again the majority of you don't care as long as they have a particular letter behind their name. C) Most of you don't really care anyway hahahah :)

So in essence I would like to say I'm glad I live in my plush cardboard box, drinking my pickle juice, and watching the same type of people talk about the same problems and demanding solutions, yet not willing to give up anything in the end. The state will get their kick backs, the state leaders will get their treats, so enjoy the "great lie." Let's get those mullets larger, throw on them denim jackets (you now the one), start workin on that IROC that's been siten in the front yard, after all were Idahoans were used to leading from the rear right. Oh and shh don't tell anyone but if we stupefy the public who's really going to know right. In the words of an un-named politician "Rarely is the question asked. Is our children learning?" O on a different note, it was a really nice day today ah? Well besides the whole Hg thing, crud sorry guys that's Mercury, it has an atomic mass of 200.59 amu's

P.s spare a dime

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Tue, Feb 15, 2011, at 5:29 PM

Happy to see the update on the spill. Went from a thermometer to a barometer, and the HAZMAT is from Mtn. Home and not the state team. Really changes the picture doesn't it? Oh well at least the story was corrected.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, Feb 15, 2011, at 8:40 AM

By the way, we can't blame the school for this. They have to follow the idiot government law so they don't get sued.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, Feb 15, 2011, at 8:31 AM

High is closed for a hazmat spill. A thermometer broke and there is now a mercury spill. Just have to love this one. Money - hazmat, school buses, parents time off to pick up kids .... This is another government, idiot bill that has been taken too far. Ludicrous.

-- Posted by midea on Tue, Feb 15, 2011, at 8:10 AM


I like Lunas plan and hope it passes. But the laptop part is the worst kind of, "you have to read it to know what's in it", type of legislation. Your statement that there are already IT people at the schools is ignorant. The increase in the number of computers will result in hiring not a small amount of IT people. The bandwidth that will be needed wil be a significant drain on dollars as well. The upfront cost is a huge hit financially. Of course theres no numbers for any of these items as well as for software, viruses, theft, cyber crimes, and other things so we'll just have to see where the money comes from. We should ditch the laptop part of this plan and fund the bills mandates fully.

-- Posted by CountryDweller on Mon, Feb 14, 2011, at 8:13 AM

Does anyone remember the little 2 year old baby girl that was murdered by her mother? This was back in the 80's. I cannot think of the Mother's name, the little girls first name was Jean. The family lived on Alturas Drive

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Feb 13, 2011, at 2:16 PM

However, nothing in Luna's plan is temporary, Alexander said.

"This is permanent. If this goes forward and it doesn't work, there's no going back," he added.

Alexander classified this major, fundamental shift in the state's education structure disastrous at this time, adding that the district's letter was necessary "because stern words need to be said."

The board chairman considers Luna's plan like "jumping off a cliff."

Oh NO! Another "nuclear" situation in the MHSD due to over-spending. Less students=less teachers. Makes perfect sense, if you have any that is.

The sky is falling yet again in MH.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 13, 2011, at 9:29 AM

For many, many years, our institutions of higher learning (colleges) have been using computer technology to educate. They will have a teacher in another location teaching multiple classes. It saves money! It is also interactive. You can still ask questions---it is just that the teacher is in another place. More bang for your bucks.

As far as this computer issue goes...if your older child cannot keep track of their things, you have larger problems than how you will pay for a new computer if something happens. The MHSD has people on their payroll to fix computers and help/assist with tech issues. Perhaps, if they do not have enough staff for this currently, they will hire more people to handle this so that these computers can be learning tools and not something that will hurt/hinder their educations.

For the last 10 years, the MHSD has run the district as if there were more kids going to school within the district when that was NOT TRUE. It would stand to reason that if enrollment numbers are down, cuts SHOULD have been made. Afterall, less students mean less revenue for the MHSD right?

Cuts need to be made. Education needs to be about education and these future leaders having the skills they need to be productive members of their community. Piss and moan all you want but do any of you have better ideas? Mr. McMurtrey makes over $105,000 a year. Mr. Osborne, the money manager for the district, makes over $40.00 PER HOUR!!! Both of these people have had a hand in the disaster that now faces this community.

Some of you out there voted for the levy. How does throwing more money at people like this help? It does not help! Cuts need to be made. Cuts must be made for the health of the education system. The fat cats at the top need a diet and need to be held to a budget---a REAL budget.

Now the district plans to hold meetings. I urge you to do your own research on the issue. The MHSD has never been FACTUAL in what they choose to tell their public (you know...the folks who pay their bills).

Everybody want to complain but nobody seems to have a socially responsible/economically responsible solution to this problem.

In the good years what did the MHSD do with all of the money. We are where we are at due to the people in charge. Maybe Egypt had the right idea.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 13, 2011, at 9:12 AM

Yesterday was a beautiful day, so warm ! I hope today is just as nice and that you all have a wonderful day :D

-- Posted by just1 on Sun, Feb 13, 2011, at 8:15 AM

We are going to be responsible for a computer for each one of our children under Luna's plan. Will I have to pay when there is a virus? When my kid accidentally drops and breaks it? When its stolen? If I can't pay for it is there going to be a lein on my house? I know that I'm liable for text books and such but this is a whole nother level. This is hundreds of dollars. What's next a mandatory, state supplied car, so my kid isn't late? everybody in my house has their own laptop and smart phone. There is one desk top, a kindle, and a tablet. I don't think that I should be forced to in essence, "buy", or be encumbered by a redundant piece of equipment.

-- Posted by CountryDweller on Sat, Feb 12, 2011, at 2:06 PM


-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Feb 11, 2011, at 4:23 PM


-- Posted by workingbee on Fri, Feb 11, 2011, at 4:23 PM

"Americans are all angry -- angry about lost savings, angry at failed corporations and angry at their meds for keeping them from getting as angry as they want to be." -- Stephen Colbert


-- Posted by sas212 on Fri, Feb 11, 2011, at 9:49 AM

Kelly, loved your editorial!!!

-- Posted by snafu on Wed, Feb 9, 2011, at 5:37 PM

I know a family that had all three boys on Ritalin at the same time. Their grades were in the toilet, and after school, all they did was sat in front of one of 3 big screen TV's playing expensive, violent video games. They were all three overweight, as was the parents. Mom was on Prozac and drank like a fish. I will never forget the day I went over to pick something up. All three boys were in front of a TV eating bowls of Captain Crunch, mom was in her quilting room with a glass of wine and their 80 years old grandpa was out cutting the grass.You tell me what the problem is!

-- Posted by bearhunter on Wed, Feb 9, 2011, at 6:58 AM

The local school district must have some extra money, as a lot (Many classrooms) of lights are on in West Elementary.

-- Posted by Mr.427539 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 8:49 PM

My daddy beat the heck in to me...all things being equal, I'd have taken the drugs.

Sometimes it's not "love" or a "village" that makes a difference. Sometimes, you're just not wired right. If you don't get what I'm saying, just ask a psychotic sociopath.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 6:00 PM

Maybe the parents that were duking it out at North elementary this afternoon could use a little medication.

-- Posted by CountryDweller on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 5:28 PM

Trouble 2011

I wish I did own stock in a pharmaceutical company, but I do have some other stock holdings :)

I guess you overlooked the fact that I said I agree medicating children is not always the answer. I raised my Grandson who was diagnosed ADD when he was in elementary school. The teachers pushed to have him put on medication,along with his Doctor. I refused !! I was not going to have my Grandson medicated while in school, he had the rest of his life to handle without medication....

It took a lot of energy and commitment on my part to keep him safe and out of trouble.

Belt whippings are not the answer either, plus I believe that's child abuse.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 4:40 PM

MsMarylin must own stock in a pharmaceutical company. How the he-double tooth picks did the human race survive before all these mind altering drugs? How did the older generation make it without something to suppress their multiple physiological problems? Maybe just maybe it is an excuse, I bet every kid that acts badly must have a mental condition of some sort and need medication. If they are depressed let's give them uppers instead of talking to and spending time with your child, doing something together as a family. If they are hyper-active let's give them downers instead of getting them into sports and spending time with them burning off the excess energy. I guess this generation has and excuse for everything, why they get bad grades, why they act out, why they can't graduate, why they stole the car, why they went to jail....ect Gee it couldn't be the child never got disciplined, never had family (sit-down) dinners at home and not takeout, never spent time as a family playing board games and things like that. No life isn't as exciting as a video game. Giving drugs that will solve everything.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 3:53 PM

Ok I looked at your link and yes it does talk about the spoiling of children today and most shouldn't be placed on medication. I agree to this, sometimes medicating a child is not the answer, however I scrolled all the way down to the bottom of this page and I am not seeing where the author says a good belt whipping is needed in place of medication?

Instead of making a Judgement call that all children need a butt whipping, I would have to know the child first and his family and whats going on within the family to determine what the child needs. I cannot assume that a child needs medication or a butt whipping just because someone thinks all children who are spoiled need a belt whipping, maybe the parents need one.. lol !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 2:25 PM

Here's a link >> Celebrities who have BiPolar

Do you think if they received belt whippings they wouldn't have this illness any longer ?


-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 1:01 PM

CJW I have had hands on experience with a Bipolar person for over twenty years and still needs medication.... Belt Whipping does not help behavior problems in Bipolar people.... You must be thinking of some other illness. I guess you would also say When a Schizophrenic acts out he/she don't need medication either, just a belt whipping will solve the problem

Here's a link for information on Bipolar


-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 12:44 PM

I'm not being defensive. My statement was about you, not me. I'm just calling it like I see it and I was merely repeating what you called me previously in other posts.

I haven't done or said anything that requires me to take a defensive stance.

-- Posted by sas212 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 12:43 PM

I got so distracted by all those numbers that I totally missed my point of asking you to back your opinion:


That simple concept has worked for generations and oddly enough as we as a society have moved away from that the crime rate has increased dramatically.... Things that make ya go "hmmmmmmmmm""

The links you posted don't state WHY the crime rate has risen....I think you missed the point also.

-- Posted by sas212 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 12:36 PM

Why is it you get so defensive when we ask of you, what you ask of us? Why is it YOU can have comments, opinions but WE have lies, and are whiners? By your posts and so called comments, opinions, you are a very angry, irritated person.

By the way, that's just my opinion.

-- Posted by sas212 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 12:29 PM

"That simple concept has worked for generations and oddly enough as we as a society have moved away from that the crime rate has increased dramatically.... Things that make ya go "hmmmmmmmmm""


I'd like to see your facts and sources to back that statement up.

-- Posted by sas212 on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 10:12 AM


It's obvious that you have No clue what Bipolar (manic depression) Illness is. Repeated belt whippings would not change behavior.... A Bipolar person needs Lithium for the mood swings and depression

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 10:02 AM

Just to be fair, I have read just as many success stories as well as the failures regarding the laptop programs. Either way you look, you will find what you want to see.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 7:45 AM

LIVERPOOL, N.Y. -- The students at Liverpool High have used their school-issued laptops to exchange answers on tests, download pornography and hack into local businesses. When the school tightened its network security, a 10th grader not only found a way around it but also posted step-by-step instructions on the Web for others to follow (which they did).

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Narayan Mahon for The New York Times

Chris Barry, 16, carrying his laptop at Liverpool High School in Liverpool, N.Y., where they are being phased out.

Scores of the leased laptops break down each month, and every other morning, when the entire school has study hall, the network inevitably freezes because of the sheer number of students roaming the Internet instead of getting help from teachers.

So the Liverpool Central School District, just outside Syracuse, has decided to phase out laptops starting this fall, joining a handful of other schools around the country that adopted one-to-one computing programs and are now abandoning them as educationally empty -- and worse.

Many of these districts had sought to prepare their students for a technology-driven world and close the so-called digital divide between students who had computers at home and those who did not.

"After seven years, there was literally no evidence it had any impact on student achievement -- none," said Mark Lawson, the school board president here in Liverpool, one of the first districts in New York State to experiment with putting technology directly into students' hands. "The teachers were telling us when there's a one-to-one relationship between the student and the laptop, the box gets in the way. It's a distraction to the educational process."

Liverpool's turnabout comes as more and more school districts nationwide continue to bring laptops into the classroom. Federal education officials do not keep track of how many schools have such programs, but two educational consultants, Hayes Connection and the Greaves Group, conducted a study of the nation's 2,500 largest school districts last year and found that a quarter of the 1,000 respondents already had one-to-one computing, and fully half expected to by 2011.

Yet school officials here and in several other places said laptops had been abused by students, did not fit into lesson plans, and showed little, if any, measurable effect on grades and test scores at a time of increased pressure to meet state standards. Districts have dropped laptop programs after resistance from teachers, logistical and technical problems, and escalating maintenance costs.

Such disappointments are the latest example of how technology is often embraced by philanthropists and political leaders as a quick fix, only to leave teachers flummoxed about how best to integrate the new gadgets into curriculums. Last month, the United States Department of Education released a study showing no difference in academic achievement between students who used educational software programs for math and reading and those who did not.

Those giving up on laptops include large and small school districts, urban and rural communities, affluent schools and those serving mostly low-income, minority students, who as a group have tended to underperform academically.

Matoaca High School just outside Richmond, Va., began eliminating its five-year-old laptop program last fall after concluding that students had failed to show any academic gains compared with those in schools without laptops. Continuing the program would have cost an additional $1.5 million for the first year alone, and a survey of district teachers and parents found that one-fifth of Matoaca students rarely or never used their laptops for learning. "You have to put your money where you think it's going to give you the best achievement results," said Tim Bullis, a district spokesman.

Everett A. Rea Elementary School in Costa Mesa, Calif., where more than 95 percent of students are Hispanic and come from low-income families, gave away 30 new laptops to another school in 2005 after a class that was trying them out switched to new teachers who simply did not do as much with the technology. Northfield Mount Hermon School, a private boarding school in western Massachusetts, eliminated its five-year-old laptop program in 2002 after it found that more effort was being expended on repairing the laptops than on training teachers to teach with them.

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-- Posted by snafu on Tue, Feb 8, 2011, at 6:38 AM


There's a little more to it than just weeding out the troublemakers. If that was all there was to it, it would be easy and hardly dent the budget at all...there aren't that many of them here.

MHSD must also support and educate 100s of kids with disabilities, some mental, some physical, some behavioral, and some all of the above. The Feds have mandated care for all sorts of students with special needs without sending the promised/supporting dollars. Some of these kids require a one-to-one aide to student ratio...the district has to hire additional (unfunded) help to keep the mainstream teachers from being overwhelmed by students that really need special consideration; but can't be shuffled off to a facility that can better support their needs...because there isn't one out there.

Each student, regardless of ability is worth money from the state coffers...attendance is reported daily. Each student that leaves school, gets booted out, moves away, or opts for a charter/alternative school, has their value subtracted from MHSD budget. Some charters (I'm not certain about McKenna) are funded from the same bucket of cash as the school district they draw their students from.

In essence, it's likely that your school district is not only losing money because students leave the public school for a chance at a different learning method; but also, the public school that loses those students is footing the bill.

I'd only ask OM, that you consider that the cost of doing business in MHSD could be past the point of diminishing returns...not because the public is having its money misused,; but, because the cost of doing an exemplary job is exceeding its funding. Something will have to give if the current circumstances continue. You know, like when your personal budget can no longer support your desire for butter and beefsteak at a margarine and frankfurter salary.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Mon, Feb 7, 2011, at 5:16 PM

snafu: What is it that you don't like about the Luna Bill? You can say "I told you so" but we need to know what you're telling us first.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Mon, Feb 7, 2011, at 8:11 AM

How bout them Packers?

-- Posted by skeeter on Mon, Feb 7, 2011, at 6:16 AM

I dont get on the BB and bash any of you. But the thing is if this bill passes I will get on and say I told you so.

-- Posted by snafu on Mon, Feb 7, 2011, at 5:08 AM


MHSD doesn't get to select and choose among students...it has to accept all, no questions asked.

You know what happens to kids who don't meet McKenna School standards?...they get the boot. Oh yeah, there are no refunds.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Feb 6, 2011, at 3:03 PM

Here is what our local MHSD has to say about Luna's plan:



Idaho State Dept. of Education Site:


Colleges have been using part of this plan for years with few problems. It is a way to reduce out of control costs and MHSD out of control spending.

Read the proposed Bill and see why the MHSD Board is so up in arms. Enrollment is down and has been for years in the MHSD. It would stand to reason, based on enrollment numbers (facts and figures) that CUTS CAN AND NEED TO BE MADE. Ask yourself why this Board is so reluctant to be fiscally responsible with OUR money.

Over $100,000 paid to Tim McMurtrey annually. Money well spent?

Another important fact. McKenna has "online classes" available. They seem to do just fine with this and managed to build a new building, pay for it and retain their teachers without a "nuclear" end to the way they educate. They put up a windmill and educated their students on green energy. Their students also regularly volunteer in the community as part of the education experience.

How does that school district board manage to do so well, control their debt and spending, keep students engaged AND EDUCATE???

Imagine folks...an education system that has a focus on...of all things...EDUCATION. Who would have "thunk" it?!?!?!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Feb 6, 2011, at 10:28 AM

snafu: Got a better link to the Bill? Spent 10 minutes looking for the correct bill or bills and not sure I found the right one. Why not post the house/senate Bill number or better yet, your top ten reason you don't like what is being proposed.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Sun, Feb 6, 2011, at 9:32 AM

WHAT!!!! Are you saying that we don't live in South Central LA, (today was a good day...) I don't believe it. HAHAHAHA, it's amazing how people read/hear one thing and they scurry like the mice that keep me warm at night. So what's the next topic?

P.S. spare a dime?

-- Posted by Mtnhomeless on Sat, Feb 5, 2011, at 9:07 AM

Parents of school age kids, I would be very upset over what Luna is going to do to you. Those laptops are just a smoke screen to what he is really going to do. It is almost that he hates teachers. Everything that they have worked for is going down the tube. Guess who might be paying for those online classes? YOU!!!!!All your nightmares will be coming true.

I urge parents to go to www.idaho.gov and read the whole bill that Luna is proposing. Your school system is going to become a nightmare if they pass this proposal. Call or write your senator to say NO!!

-- Posted by snafu on Thu, Feb 3, 2011, at 5:10 PM

MHresident, I am by no means telling you what to do but I think instead of asking your question here that you call the Chief at 587-2101 and talk to him. He has an open door policy and will talk to anyone about problems with the law around the City or make an appointment and go see him. I have done both a number of times and he has been always glad to answer my questions. Only a suggestion.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Feb 2, 2011, at 3:38 PM

Take it for whats its worth LOL


-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Feb 2, 2011, at 7:25 AM

Thanks Chief for clearing that up. Sometimes it's hard for those of us who don't have the inside info to distinguish between embellished stories and a genuine warning. I'm glad to hear, once and for all, it's just a rumor. Good luck catching the losers shooting out the windows. I'll keep my eyes peeled....

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 8:19 PM

Thanks Chief for clearing that up and sorry to have posted a rumor. Had a friend whose car window was blown out over the weekend and they stated those facts, about the gang initiation, came from the police officer who worked his incident. Wasn't trying to stir up trouble and glad that this isn't going on in MH. I know the MHPD will be very diligent in catching whomever is at fault!

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 5:10 PM


Thank you for posting that as we all know that our local beat reporters will never report on anything but sunshine and rainbows. AEHI and the WECRD are just two examples.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 4:02 PM

Thank You for clearing that up. So much of what you hear can be debated it seems. One another note, I was just in the State Farm insurance office the other day and met the new agent who seems very nice. I believe the young man said he would be starting officially in March.As a community, I would like to welcome him and his family to the town and wish him success in his taking over the agency.

-- Posted by country34 on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 12:28 PM

Thanks Chief you did a very good job of putting down the rumor. Now we all can get back to helping catching the idiots that think it is so much to steal, break windows and their other acts of Vandalism.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 11:56 AM

Nomad and Uncommon,

I typically let rumors run their course, but since this one seems to rejuvinate and continue to live I am happy to share facts. The rumors started after an e-mail circulated right before the holidays claiming that as part of a gang initiation a house had been invaded, ransacked and valuables stolen. It also claimed that their house had almost been invaded as well, if not for their trusty K-9's.

The facts are as follows:

- A homeowner found a footprint at their residence that cannot be explained. Nothing was taken, the house was not damaged in any way and no forced entry was made. No one was home at the time. They did not report the matter to Police until after we read the e-mail and spent hours tracking down the veracity of what was purported and contacted them.

- A neighbor heard of the footprint and when they returned home, opended their garage and found the inside door between the garage and house ajar they felt the two incidents were related. This indiviudal did not call Police either, as there was no loss, no one saw or heard anything other than an open door.

- This neighbor then sent an e-mail to co-workers at the MHAFB that went viral and made it's way to hundreds of readers. It linked the above facts to gang initiations, home invasions, ransacked houses, etc. The goal was noble...he was trying to alert others to a potential safety concern. The result was a tremendous amount of false information and unwarranted fear.

Which brings us to today....parts of a false rumor that continues to circulate. Mountain Home is the safest place I have ever lived and we DO NOT have gang members invading houses as part of an initiation. We ARE NOT crime free and as a result, everyone needs to do their part to keep their valuables safe. They also need to be great witnesses and keep their eyes peeled for anything that looks out of the ordinary.

When they see anything suspicious or weird, they need to call us as we love to come running...we are here to serve. If it is nothing, no harm, no foul. If it is someone up to no good, perhaps we catch them.

That is likely what it will take to catch our current miscreants, who somehow derive pleasure in shooting out windows on vehicles. Their "fun" is costing good honest folks thousands of hard earned dollars.

You two have every right to be angry at their actions, as do all of our residents. I know I am and so are the officers at MHPD. Every officer I work with would LOVE to catch these folks and throw them in jail and I can tell you they are working hard to achieve that goal. In the mean time, watch out for one another and call us....it may just be the call that saves your window or the window of your neighbor.

Chief John Walter


-- Posted by Chief Walter on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 11:50 AM

That's the chance people take when they break into someone's home. People have a right to defend themselves and their family.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 11:48 AM


I heard about the daytime break ins on facebook a few weeks ago but never heard anything since then. I wasn't sure if it was true or not. Is there anyone who can confirm this? Hopefully the next house they invade will have a loaded shotgun and a homeowner who isn't afraid to use it on the other side. That should put a stop to it. Or we could just give them a stern talking-to. That always works:)

-- Posted by uncommon sense on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 10:33 AM

Check out the spending habits of those selfless people accepting your resumes and bringing jobs to Elmore County:



Thanks to Retired Exec, Courtney, and Mark P.

Be sure to check out Don's Deposition where he says he was led to believe by "the powers that be" in Elmore County AEHI would get approval. Who led him to believe that?

-- Posted by justthefactsplease on Tue, Feb 1, 2011, at 8:58 AM


-- Posted by 2timer on Mon, Jan 31, 2011, at 6:39 PM

I know the cops can't be every place all the time but there are enough people upset with all the vandalism, stealing and the likes. Its just a matter of time somebody is going to get caught by a citizen and its going to be no questions asked and the punks are going to be dead.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Jan 31, 2011, at 4:57 PM

So a few students were expelled and today the "rivalry" seems to be on the down-low. The principle is working with the SRO to make sure our kids are kept safe. Now for the recent rash of vandalism in town--guess there is an area of town getting a name--the part of town behind Taco John's!!! New gang initiation is to break into a home in the middle of the day! Pray the police get a handle on this fast!!!! Maybe we need a sweep of that area behind Taco Johns and see how many are here legally.

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Mon, Jan 31, 2011, at 4:06 PM

I agree that the high school principle and the school board had a knee jerk reaction to the problems by canceling the dance. One must ask why didn't they just punish the trouble makers by expelling them and if a senior also not letting them graduate. We need to stop punishing everyone for idiots creating problems. I hope the decision to punish my good student is turned around at the next election by voting out the entire school board. Let's punish all of them for the principles decision. If there is so much trouble where is the POLICE presence?

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Jan 31, 2011, at 10:22 AM

That is really sad for the students that play by the rules. I agree, the school should dismiss the troublemakers and allow the other students to participate in the activities.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Mon, Jan 31, 2011, at 9:08 AM

My son worked very hard on helping to get this dance going for the High School and was looking forward to it, he comes home and tells me it was canceled due to fights at the school. What the...why wer'nt the kids fighting expelled, don't ruin it for all the other kids that worked hard and deserved it.

-- Posted by Moanah on Sun, Jan 30, 2011, at 10:16 PM

For those that wonder what else our local paper missed, http://aehitruth.blogspot.com/2011/01/se.... But at least there was an in depth, Pulitzer prize report on the pot holes.

-- Posted by AtomicDog on Sun, Jan 30, 2011, at 2:13 PM

Time for uniforms and metal detectors at the high school??? I'd support that idea 100%! Let the stupid gangs and wannabe's beat each other senseless somewhere else!

-- Posted by Fairytaleforme on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 9:12 PM

So one of the rival teen groups wore red today! Yes, the Blackout Dance was canceled due to the rivalry going on! No this isn't just blog fodder to rile anyone up. Yes, if you are concerned call the principal at the High School. I plan on it since I have a student there. If the school feels this is such a problem to have to "punish" the whole school why hasn't there been more police presence at the school? Wonder if the recent rash of vandalism in the city is with this rivalry? Gangs trying to form?

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 7:37 PM

That is nice of you to offer, but those questions were eventually answered.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 12:58 PM

With all due respect, I have called in the past and didn't always get a straight answer.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 10:36 AM

I am sorry you feel that way but, I'm not sure how much of a "straight" answer you are going to find on a Blog.

I have seen post on here that may have not always been "truthful" and some individuals have actually posted on this blog just to riel others up.

I have found the local agencies usually have more accurate information than a blog.

If you would like to sit down and tell me about the situation(s) you felt you were not given a straight answer. I would be more than happy schedule a time we can meet.

William Murray

-- Posted by WilliamMurray on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 11:31 AM

With all due respect, I have called in the past and didn't always get a straight answer.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 10:36 AM

In response to Curious and Nomad

I would recommend calling the School District Office (587-2580) or the High School (587-2570).

William Murray

-- Posted by WilliamMurray on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 10:15 AM

I had not heard about this, but it is interesting. I did notice that the Blackout Dance that was scheduled had been canceled. I hope this is due to poor ticket sales and not trouble amongst the students. Perhaps someone can give an explanation as to what may be the reasons for these actions.

-- Posted by CuriousParents on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 9:50 AM

The High School cancels the occasional hour long lunch and reduces time between classes from 7min. to 5min. because of a rivalry between a group of teens. Is there something that the parents need to know about or be concerned with?

-- Posted by Nomad4 on Fri, Jan 28, 2011, at 6:20 AM

No Retiree COLA increas for 2011:


-- Posted by VicVega on Wed, Jan 26, 2011, at 4:15 PM


-- Posted by AtomicDog on Wed, Jan 26, 2011, at 3:18 PM


I've not received cost-of-living adjustments in my military retirement, either, and I'm not sure of which CPI they use to calculate the COLA. However, the contract with Allied uses the All-Urban Consumers, US City Average Price index, which can be found here:


You can see from all the links on that page there are many CPIs, used for various puprposes.

I uploaded the Allied Waste notification letter, along with the CPI table used to compute the increase (which was 1.17%), so anyone can see how the calculations are made, here:


Hope this helps.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Wed, Jan 26, 2011, at 10:23 AM

In response to this post by Councilman Schroeder

"The City Council did not approve the larger recycling totes. The rate increase was part of Allied Waste's contract which allows for periodic increases tied to the Consumer Price Index. The contract is available for view at city hall.

-- Posted by Councilman Schroeder on Sun, Jan 23, 2011, at 9:31 AM"

That's odd, Councilman Schroeder. I haven't received a Social Security Disability cost of living increase in the last two years because, according to Social Security, there was no rise in the Consumer Price Index. So the CPI only benefits the government by hiding the real rate of inflation.

-- Posted by Franco8274 on Wed, Jan 26, 2011, at 9:14 AM

There are those that continually try to put p