Another “right wing kook”

Posted Thursday, April 12, 2012, at 8:44 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Florida Congressman Allen West, a former Army Lt. Col., said recently that there are up to 81 Communists in the Democratic side of the House and at least one in the Senate that HE knows of.

To ME, that was a startling statement. I'd have thought for SURE there were more than that.

"They don't actually hide it" he says......"It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus." (There are 76 "declared" members)

While the involved Dems don't like being "labeled" (remember----only the LEFT is publicly allowed to "name-call"), West's campaign manager responded by saying that the "label" isn't the point........

He quotes, "we can quibble about terminology but it's clear-----people who oppose capitalism, free markets and individual economic freedom........well, it the shoe fits........"

But Allen West doesn't take that far enough. When they vote to dictate policy to us, they're communists.

When a president decides HE will accomplish HIS goals by "Executive Order" when the Congress (who represent the people), won't go along with what HE wants, it's Communism.

Those in the House & Senate who sit there and say or do NOTHING while he DOES it, are CLEARLY Communists.........including a bunch on the "RIGHT"............which is why I said West's comments startled me, because I think that "number" is actually LOW........and is why I'm such an advocate of "getting rid of them ALL.

I think that MOST of those out there who support Obama, do so for the same reasons they've ALWAYS supported the left.......they think it's all "free stuff."

Like "Santa Claus".......a Democrat government just dispenses money & aid like "toys and gifts."........and the only requirements are that you BE here (you don't even have to be here LEGALLY-----just BE here)..........and "don't forget to vote for US" when the time comes.

It's that simple. Washington has a big money tree back there, so in the average liberal mind, it all comes from "Uncle Sam."

But unlike Santa, there aren't any "elves back there making the toys."

There is only the IRS, who take from the achievers, "fence it" through the politicians, who give it to the non-achievers in exchange for their VOTES, to help keep the crooks in power. The working man understands that. (most of 'em anyway). The welfare pro and the illegals could care LESS, as long as that check is there on time.

No, Mr West....."communism" comes in MANY forms. That "caucus" is only a "front" to attempt to mask what is actually going on underneath. If you look up Congressional Progressive Caucus on Wikipedia for example....and look at the list of organizations that support it.............that ALONE should give you an idea of what I'm talking about. It clearly begins to come into clarity.

(TWO of them, Illinois Congressman Bobby Rush and California Congresswoman Diane Watson, have even gone as far as to publicly praise FIDEL CASTRO, and probably NOBODY is a bigger communist than HE is!

This "caucus" even comes p with its own "budget plan that is supposed to "balance us" by 2021. Traditionally Democrat, they figure to do it by MORE TAX HIKES and DEFENSE cuts, (maybe that's what Obama is trying to be "more flexible" with the Russians about, eh?)

NOTHING in their plan calls for any SPENDING cuts, foreign aid stoppages or illegal alien toss-outs.

No....they keep looking to hit the taxpayer into HIS pockets that "ever end"........(they think it's the "loaves and the fish"), and keep hitting the Corporations, then cry and point fingers when they pick up and move overseas.

Continuing to weaken defense plays right into the hands on the U.N., and the Russians of course, with THEIR 6,500 warheads don't mind that either.

................and do you KNOW what the Caucus refers to this as?...........the "PEOPLE's BUDGET!"

Where have we heard THAT before? Think real hard now. Anytime something was referred to as the "people's"................

Yes Mr West.........it is live and well here, for the time being anyway.

There are many who don't like Allen West. Like Herman Cain in a way, he TOO is an "Uncle Tom" turncoat, because he ALSO had to work HIS way to success and doesn't believe in a "nanny government."

But I'm WITH ya Congressman..................a lot of people don't like me either way out HERE...........but like I've told the pinkos.........if ya don't like it, I ain't hard to find. Come look me up.....you won't like it....but come look me up.

And "thank you for YOUR service", Colonel. The man might be black, but he isn't YELLOW.

Ok.........sometime shortly now, we'll probably be hearing from our newest pinko, "YNS", who'll bring us another episode of HIS treasonous dogma, and his backwards sarcasm.....and of course he'll implant the picture of HIS IDOL, because he probably thinks it irritates me.

Yes, I've posted pictures of Hitler and Himmler as well. But like Obama, THEY weren't people I'd have supported either!

And THEY at least were OPEN about being what they were.

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Here's something that I found to be funny. Democratic strategist and DNC ADVISER Hilary Rosen was trying to put down Ann Romney by saying "she has never worked a day in her life." Nevermind the fact that Mrs. Romney CHOSE to be a stay at home mom to five kids because she WAS financially stable.

I guess only Democrats are allowed to not work. And I guess it makes them 'honorable' to not work and keep pumping out babies in order to keep those welfare checks coming in.

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM
Good blog Mike.

And KT, that is just a bad statement to be made in these times. Offensive to so many women who's job/career is to raise well balanced children, who will be tomorrow's future. We don't have enough willing to take on THAT job, and do a good job ot it! There IS nothing more important than raising our futures.

Thanks for pointing that out

-- Posted by jessiemiller on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 9:55 AM
Really? The dreaded "commies" are back as a political issue for the Republican Party?

-- Posted by bondyweb on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 10:32 AM
LT COL WEST...is not someone that I am proud about wearing the uniform given the circumstances of his retirement WHICH WAS FORCED.This whole notation of liberals and welfare needs to come to a halt that is not there idealogy as stated here.What is stated is your perception and should be stated as such.Welfare checks ???? question since when does 1% of anything become the ideals of any group.TELL me whats real and stop sterotyping people.

YOUR warhead numbers are out of date by thousands.Returning the military to pre 9/11 days was alwasys a goal nothing new so stop acting like it is,neither is the missle treaty.

AMERICANS praised hitler and ????? they are not the first nor will they be the last to do this.We should remember that WE supported CASTRO when he was doing what WE wanted.OUR hands are not clean there.

I feel there is no problem with policy being dictated as long as it was someone you approved of doing the dictating.That should not be the case who does it should not matter just the fact that it is being done is all that SHOULD count

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 10:35 AM
I didn't stereotype anyone, the DNC advisor did. Apparently to her, it's not OK for a financially stable woman to stay at home and raise kids. But she didn't say anything about welfare mothers pumping out babies to get checks. That's what I have a problem with.

I also have a problem with this whole screwed up administration. I think Ben Stein said it best, "Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen"

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM
Not to mention that Ann Romney has M.S. Isn't it amazing how the Democrats can disparage a "Stay at home MOM" with M.S. ? If she was a Democrat, she would be a monument to Woman and a strong willed Woman survivor to be revered and emulated, but because she's the Wife of a Republican, they can find a way to try and marginalize her. I hope the Women voters are paying attention to this one. Ann Romney IS a WOMAN to be admired, not because she's Mitt's wife, but because she is a STRONG WOMAN and because she's a GREAT MOM and has done this despite the challenges of M.S.

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 11:18 AM
My comment is that family should always be off limits. PERIOD! The person that made such a stupid remark has been publicly rebuked, but the damage is done. In politics today, it seems everyone has a bad case of foot and mouth disease. Open mouth, insert foot.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 11:24 AM
Allen West famous quotes

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/02/16/417174/allen-west-15-worst-quotes/

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 11:36 AM
I've had the good fortune to know many strong women during my 62 years. Those that can balance work AND raise a family AND overcome adversity are to be admired. Those that seem comfortable with having offspring to get a bigger slice of the dream, well not so much. Those that make foolish statements for political gain deserve to be ridiculed.

-- Posted by wh67 on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 11:39 AM
ROY SAID WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID.....AND I AGREE.

HAVING BABIES TO GET A BIGGER CHECK HAS BEEN ADDRESSED....Now the administrators need to do there jobs.

Question.....is the republicans going to take any of the responsibility for the illegal allien situation or is that all on the democrates?I ask because this situation did not come overnight nor in the last decade.

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 12:20 PM
As usual, when the conservative movement knows that it is on the wrong side of most issues and are going to be losing an election, they pull out the communist card. That is their most effective way to shut down a debate that they know is a loser for them. Not only is it pathetic, but I would imagine it would be offensive to all the people that have survived the attrocities of a communist regime. I'm sure that they might disagree with you about who is and who is not a communist.

Historically, communist parties are responsible for the murder of millions of people and the imprisonment and torture of millions more. So to compare fellow American citizens who love this country just as much as you, but have different opinions on economic and social issues, to mass murderers is quite disturbing and says more about you than it does about them.

Oh, and I like the way that you say that the left are the only people allowed to publicly name call as you and a sitting congressman are calling your political opponents communists.

-- Posted by youneedsocialism on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 12:23 PM
Lamont, I'm hoping that someone will take care of the illegal alien situation. I don't care who does it and it's obvious that it isn't a main topic of any President or administration. That's where all of this politically correct bullcrap comes into play. I have been complaining about illegal immigrants for as long as I can remember but, have also been called a racist for doing so for as long as I can remember. We can't even call them 'illegal aliens' anymore! You have to now call them 'undocumented workers'! Tell me that's not a load of crap!

But to answer your question, your right, this didn't happen overnight. But we have to start cleaning up the mess somewhere. We can't wait for the next President to come along, we have to complain to THIS ONE, just like we did to the ones in the past.

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 1:34 PM
Well Mike, issuing Executive Orders has been held Constitutional for a very long time. Don't like it, change the Constitution. Recess appointments, same thing.

Liberals, Socialist, Communist and Fascist are all different things. You seem to interchange the terms at will where it will generate the most passion, whether or not the term you use is accurate.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 2:52 PM
One of BHO's close friends

Barryhttp://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/van-jones-group-plans-american's-"arab-spring"-revolt/453666's close friends:

-- Posted by skeeter on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 4:10 PM
Maybe this one will work.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/van-jones-grou...

-- Posted by skeeter on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 4:12 PM
IF someone would take the time to check,you would see that a great number of things have been accomplished in the areas you have mentioned.IT is easier to deal with what we want to say politically than it is to acknowledge the truth in what is happening.Your perception that we are losing in this battle of economics and the country is going to the dickens is not born out by facts.....on the social issues we are not going back to the 1950'S----.The country is starting to become inclusive and as it does across the board we shall see a greater prosperity,there cannot be a seperate but equal and I am NOT talking about RACE.

The finanacial cuts that will be put in place will hurt...EVERYONE AND SHOULD.CUTBACKS are being thoughtfully instituted right now.They dont have to be shouted from the mtn top.I wont like some of them and were they are made, neither will you but that is the way it goes.

There are choices here....we could devastate some while others remain unscathed or we can assure that the pain is spread across the board and kept to a minimum for all.We will never be the same but we can and will survive as a society without destroying some people.MY THOUGHTS AND OPINION

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 4:13 PM
The problem that I have, Lamont, with these 'cuts that will be put in place and will hurt' is, I have already paid my fair share! Myself, you, and most of the people I know are not the ones who got us in this mess and shouldn't be expected to get us out. It's the Governments fault and their wasteful spending. If Obama wants to campaign, fine. Just don't do it on my dime. If they want to throw a party, that's great, they can pay for it themselves. I don't want anyone to tell me to cut back on my spending and "this is going to hurt everyone", meanwhile they are at the White House dining on Cavair and taking expensive trips.

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 4:38 PM
GOOD.......WASTEFULL SPENDING .......for the last decade or 2 and I agree we have paid our part.MY problem is and attitude on the national level that if I am in power I get to rob the bank with immunity.The campaign will go the way it always has. The encumbent has the bully pulpit not and exscuse ok.But why should this president do it any different than any other encumbent to include senators and congressman.I dont know about cavair.

This mess was created by the greed of the people who were put in place to govern all of them.I have said this before .....why would you spend 20 milllion dollars to get a job that pays 170 thousand a year ??????????? I THINK WE BOTH KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED NONE OF THEM ARE IMMUNE.

FOR me I dont care about my share I DO KNOW FROM THE TAX LAWS THAT THERE IS A FAIRLY LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DONT PAY THERES AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE SUPER RICH TO DO THAT.IT helps but you just have to be able to afford a good tax accountant.Corporate taxes could be lowered and the write offs could be narrowed they are to broad.Capital gains should be changed,they tax the intrest on your bank account.Anyhow there are things that could be agreed upoun that would help a lot and they are reality things.....in other words for me get the idealogy out and some good sense in.KT we dont have and argument we have different perceptions maybe we can help each other out with that.

ON the blog subject the lady who made the comments about MRS ROMMNY is not part of the DNC AND SHE IS NOT PART OF THE CAMPAIGN, TO INCLUDE BEING AND ADVISOR.IN ANY EVENT SHE HAS BEEN FIRMLY CHASTISED,THE FIRST LADY SHOULD BE AFFORDED THE SAME RESPECT.

WELL GOT TO RUN.........LATTER

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 7:49 PM
Communist

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism?show=0&t=1334282645

Liberal

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal

If one can read, they aren't even close to the same thing.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:10 PM
Don't worry, KT, that idiot Hilary Rosen's comments about Ann Romney are coming back to bite her in the butt already. And the supposed democrat's trumped up "war on women" against the republicans is also coming back to bite them. In fact, every smokescreen the democrats try to use to divert attention from Obama's failed policies is backfiring on them. The American people are not as stupid as the liberals had hoped they would be. So sad for them.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:17 PM
Right on, Buckshot, The demoncrats (spelling intentional) are just who we thought they were.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:21 PM
Anybody that conspires to violently overthrow the democratically elected government of the Republic because they disagree with the majority that elected that government is a TRAITOR.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:34 PM
I agree, Lamont, the wasteful spending has been going on for a long time, I'm sure it's been going on for more than the decade or two that you mention. I can remember as a kid hearing about the $400 toilet seats that they bought, and that was during the Reagan years.

I think the reason that this President should do it different is because we have to start somewhere, not to mention, that's what he campaigned on. He said that things would be different with this administration. He said that this would be the most transparent admin. in history. So far he has let us down and it's just business as usual.

Now, with that being said, I complained when Bush was in office too. I complained when Clinton was in office. I also Complained when pappa Bush was in office. I was too young to complain about Reagan. I would like this country to run like a company, that's why I was all for my man, Perot. If the CEO is doing a bad job, fire the CEO!

If you were an investor, would you invest in this company under this CEO (Obama)? The company was $10.626 trillion in debt when this CEO started. He promised that by the end of his first term, he "will cut in half the massive federal deficit we've inherited. And we'll do it in a new way: honestly and candidly."

This new CEO increased that by more than 66% in just over 3 years. Wanna drop a load of cash to invest in this company? People can say, "well, give him a chance." This administration has had MY money for over 3 years now and I haven't seen a return! Actually, I'm in the hole. I can't sit around and HOPE that they will get it right one day.

I'm with you all the way, Lamont. Things do need to change. Taxes, immigration, greed, sumthin's gotta give. And it is going to take people like us, coming together to find the solution. A President who is dividing the country can't do it. If half of the employees at a company hated their boss, would they get rid of the employees or would they fire their boss? Obviously they'd fire their boss.

Obama may be a good guy to hangout with. He may be fun as all get out to have a few beers with. But the division, debt, and pain that he is causing this country tells me that he is not the right man for the job.

I may be wrong on everything but, that's just my opinion.

PS, I'm glad Rosen is looking like a fool today. What an idiot!

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:54 PM
Woops, sorry Mike. I was typing my comment as you posted yours and I see that some of our views overlap.... I appologize.

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 8:57 PM
I agree, my man!

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 10:48 PM
This thread is proof that we are more concerned with ideology than getting results.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Apr 12, 2012, at 11:38 PM
The Democrat Progressive = Communist Party

Google their platform...I see very little difference...the majority of Americans would agree...the Kooks..this article refer to are the author of this article and members of the main stream media:

Do your own research...and Google both and Compare Communist Party Platform to the Progressive Party Platform...Its the same thing...The word "Progressive" was substituted to prevent public revulsion...instead of pointing fingers at West lets talk about the Progressive party platform...and its easy to see how most Americans when comparing both would draw similar conclusions:

http://cpusa.org/faq/

http://pdamerica.org/

-- Posted by bpoppa2 on Fri, Apr 13, 2012, at 10:36 AM
Bpoppa2, you've stated very well what we on the right already know - there's no real differences between liberals/socialists and communists. They both want the same thing: government control over citizens. We on the right have a different vision for our country and it was working just fine until the communists infiltrated our government.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Fri, Apr 13, 2012, at 11:11 AM
IT WAS WORKING TO SUIT THE NEEDS OF APPROX 400 HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY......I dont think anyone here is part of that 400 hundred.SO we are ALL being manipulated to suit someone elses ends.

IF you look at the financial meltdown IT had nothing to do with you and I AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHO MANIPULATES THE COUNTRY.S MONEY ACCOUNTS(banks).YOU AND I are paying the piper but we didnt create the problem.The problem started in our congress and the manipulation of laws that allowed unsound practices to take place, we knew it and did nothing to stop it.....because we THOUGHT we were making money and we felt good.We still have a problem EVERYTHING ...YES EVERYTHING COST TO MUCH,AND THE AVERAGE PERSON CANNOT MAKE ENDS MEET.That is not something that should be swept under the table.We should be asking why??? and dont start and stop with unions,there is more to it than that.You can see greed in the oil market as plain as day THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE PRICES OF TODAY.....SPECIFCALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THERE PROFITS.If you make more than a 10-12% profit in a business the IRS will be so far up your butt you would have a headache.

YOU ME we are supporting a system that will callapse again if there is not a substantial modification in how we do business,and our expectations of what we consider to be ethically,and legally sound.....my opinion

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Apr 13, 2012, at 5:27 PM
This is nothing but speculation and America's appetite for speculation is ravenous. This thread is quite the example.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 12:04 AM
If it is not speculation, then provide ironclad, 100% definitive, objective proof that what this Senator says is true. No opinions, no subjectivity, no rhetoric, and no political ideology. If the sky is blue, it needs not a political tag or rationalization to tell someone it is blue.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 6:41 PM
Buckshot61,

I do not care if they are communist or not. This wreaks of being gossip and says that you and others are simply being sheep. This is all subjective and your reply proves that. My only contention is that if you are going to get outraged and have this "the world is going to heck-in-a-handbasket" philosophy and you want others to take you serious, have something better than, "Well, so and so said this".

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 9:28 PM
Buckshot61,

Answer me one question. Don't lie and do not give contrived rationalizations. Were you physically present at this caucus? Yes or No. If not, why do you read this without questioning. This senator has plenty of incentive to imbellish or put a spin on this.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 10:23 PM
Socialism and communism are not defined terms such as what the freezing temperature of water is. Any use of those words is pure subjectivity. Their is no ironclad, definitive test.

However, nice dodge. I had a feeling you had not the character to answer it.

BTW, you know absolutely nothing about me so quit with the assumptions.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 10:37 PM
Keep dodging, coward. I posed a simple question and yet you keep playing dumb. Keep it up, this is getting fun.

You are the one who keeps spouting the rhetoric. Even before I joined in, you supplied us with prodigious amounts of fiery, opinionated rhetoric.

You know why I do not care. Because it does not matter. A label is just a label. I judge them on their actions and that alone. It is called being objective.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 10:52 PM
Just because it is in a dictionary does not mean that it is not subjective. Could you tell with 100% certainty if someone was a communist or not? No, you could not. Your self-righteous rhetoric is all fire and brimstone with no substance.

BTW, I have a Masters in Economics and soon a Phd. and could you tell you more about Socialism and communism in one hour than you could in your entire existence. I am not a fan of either but keep assuming and making yourself look even more ignorant.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sun, Apr 15, 2012, at 10:55 PM
If one is going to get on their high-horse, I would like to think that they can back it up with something other than, "But, he said this and that". You nor any on this board was at that caucus and so are dependent on the media. That fact makes any analysis on your part less than convincing.

I rely on factual knowledge not speculation, rhetoric, or opinion. I know that is hard for some to understand. Therefore, I am not going to just accept someone's opinion and without question, accept it as fact. What Senator West said was opinion.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 10:06 AM
For example, lets think about health care. Instead of railing against communism and spewing all the fire and brimstone rhetoric, lets think about the issue itself. If you are so right, you should be able to reason it out and make a solid case without grasping for straws (aka crying communism). I, for one, am not a fan of Obamacare but can objectively break it down and show its inefficiencies. You can have your chicken little scenario and I will stick to using fact/reason/logic to back up my arguments.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 10:13 AM
Nice cop out. This is fun.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 11:49 AM
I have read numerous articles and in every instance, the man gives no evidence except his own words. Opinion is not evidence. It may work for you but it does not work for most.

Second, those that he alluded to are in fact not card carrying members of the CPUSA. Just look it up.

Third, this just shows that you are just fishing for what you want to read. You are not on the search for truth or anything like that. You just want your ingrained beliefs and opinions backed up by somebody so you go looking for something that does while ignoring the rest.

People say things for shock value all the time. If you really think that everybody is completely candid, honest, and genuine in what they say then you need to dig your head out of the sand.

The problem with communism is that is unsustainable. It simply does not work. There is plenty of factual, unbiased evidence to back that up.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 12:04 PM
Zook,

To be honest, Northern Nevada is probably more Republican/Libertarian than Idaho is. They have some of the lowest taxes in the nation and have the least units of government per capita in the nation. The newest governor has done what Washington should do. They have trimmed government expenditures and consolidated agencies. They still run a deficit but the gap is narrowing. Best yet is the fact that even with that, the state is starting to recover and could be ready for some serious growth.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 12:09 PM
As the US creeps ever closer to socialism, I find that there are three distinct groups. The "Chicken Little" types that rely solely on emotional, fiery rhetoric, and being louder and more outspoken than the other. The second group are those who support it. The third (and most numerous but the quietest) are those who have reservations about it, do not know enough to fully comment, or have solid, reasoned objections to it but get drowned out by the Hannity's, Beck's, and Bill O'Reilly's of the world. Those three are mostly full of hot air and show that Americans want outspoken and charismatic more than correct and informed.

Having single-payer health-care is not inherently communist. Plenty of non-commmunist nations have it. Do I agree with it? No. However, I feel that people reach for those words that have the most shock value as a way to drum up interest. If what you say is so great, it needs not shock value or any other extras. It should be able to stand on its own without fishing for connections.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 2:35 PM
WELCOME....TWILCOX1978.......A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM
I DONT THINK I WAS HERE......

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 8:20 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Lamont.

Yes, I do live in Reno. It looks like we will be staying here for at least the next two years. Reno is not all that different from Boise. The main differences being that there is gambling and prostitution, more bars/liquor stars, and mountain on all sides instead of just two. Politically, it is pretty similar. It has been nice to see a state government that has the stones to slash the budget and take the heat.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Apr 16, 2012, at 10:17 PM
All this blog tells me is that some people are more focused on ideology than results. If you want to accomplish your goals, coming across as delusional, paranoid, dogmatic, out-of-touch idealogues is not going to do it. However, some like playing the role of persecuted. They know that their extreme views are unpopular and relish in the individuality that being so far from the norm gives one.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Tue, Apr 17, 2012, at 3:21 PM
Yeah, Twilcox, your post makes no sense unless you care to elaborate on who you think is being "paranoid", and exactly what views you think are "extreme" and "far from the norm."

-- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 8:07 AM
Gee, I like it. Then, when we get clogged arteries from all those burgers, we can go and get "free" medical care, paid for courtesy of the next guy in line.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 8:57 AM
I am not here to tell you that you are paranoid, delusional, dogmatic, out of touch, or reactionary. The point is to say that a normal, rational, politically independent American is going to view most of you as such. Perception matters. If you are the minority and appear to be the outlier or extreme, it is unlikely that your goals and aspirations will come to fruition. That is just human nature. If you do not like it, then let ignorance dictate your ways.

The Constitution is a great thing. However, not everything in life has a constitutional basis. Using it as the only backing to your argument no matter the topic is weak. There are plenty of topics where it belongs but not every topic. Smart, reasoned, balanced, logical people can use more than one source for reason. If you want to come across as simplistic, then feel free to keep using it as your only source of reason.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 10:25 PM
Buckshot,

Think what you want but you know as well that you represent the minority in this. Most Americans are moderates and do not need to rely solely on a 230-year-old document or anecdotal evidence in order to make a point. If you want results, you may consider this thing called evidence and not just subjectivity. Trying to win someone over on an emotional level will NEVER work.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 10:58 PM
Twilcox,

The constitution was created by some wise men who knew that it was the only way to keep the government from becoming too powerful. When the government strays away from it and creates their own policies, our personal freedoms start to diminish little by little. I'm sure this is a rather old-fashioned concept to you, but it is reality. I would have to say that no one on this blog, either right or left, tries to sway people by emotions. Most people spin off reams of information and facts, or "evidence" as you call it. I wonder if you've breezed by all that in your haste to admonish us for our "subjectivity"? No matter, you have a pre-conceived set of beliefs, or dogma (your words again). And, I do believe right about now that people who might have considered themselves moderates have had about enough of this reckless government and are wanting to right the ship. I guess we'll see how fed up people have become in November.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 11:22 PM
For example, many years ago I came on here initially to discuss the proposed nuclear plant in Hammett. What do you know, here came Zook and a few others crying, "but the Constitution says this". Well, hate to burst the bubble but there is not one word or letter about nuclear power in the Constitution. So, feel fry to rationalize some more. The connections between the two are 100% nonexistent but yet they just had to plug the good ol' Constitution even when it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic. My theory is that they mentioned it because they had nothing of substance to offer and plugging the Constitution in there somehow makes their words more valid. In short, in a lot of cases it is a cop out especially when the topic has nothing to do with it.

there is little evidence presented here. Most third-party sources cited here are so soaked with bias and ideology as to be no better than the National Enquirer.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Wed, Apr 18, 2012, at 11:56 PM
All news sources are biased, Twilcox, just as everyone forms their own opinions based on their own frame of reference. What IS real and undisputable is that our debt is now at 16 trillion and climbing. No matter whose fault you think this is - Republicans or Democrats or both, the FACT is that the Republicans are the only ones addressing this issue and presenting budgets to try and balance it. I don't know if you have any kids, but we're saddling them with a massive burden that will enslave them and ensure they will never have as high a standard of living as past generations. I'll go with the party that is concerned about this and trying to do something about it.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 8:38 AM
the purpose of any communication is to inform or persuade. So it can be easily inferred that if you write on here, you are trying to inform and/or persuade. If one is going to persuade an influential person like a politician/business leader, it stands to reason that you will have to come to the plate with a bit more than, " But the constitution says".

Nevada, a few years ago, undertook contracting their state government. What motivated this change? Yes, the recession hit the state harder than any other. However, the decision at the top did not come down to bible-thumping or cries about constitutionality. It came down to some simple research and reason. They noticed that Colorado had done something like this and they investigated how effective it was. They found that in the short term it was very unpopular but in the long term it would work well when all factors are considered. What has been the result in Nevada? Less government, the gap between revenue and expense coming way down, and the state is on the verge of some serious growth. Now, lets go back to what tipped the scales. Was it subjective ranting about God, constitutionality, commmunism, or anything like that? No. So, the moral to the story is that you can accomplish what you want without being dogmatic.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 8:42 AM
TWILL.......I hate to say this but from the moment your education was attacked you were wasting your time.That attack was so not called for other than and attempt to marginalize.

Anyhow you already know and can see the biases but have fun.........but it does get old.YOU either jump hard right or suffer non stop denergration from some not all,all the time.For what it's worth I fight with the PUC all the time,they dont listen either.......have a great day.

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 2:55 PM
Lamont,

I did not bring my education for the purpose of saying that I was smarter or better than anybody else. I brought it up because of the context. The topic was socialism/communism. I anticipated a reply where someone would feel the need to educate me on this topic. Needless to say, having a Masters in Economics I am plenty well versed on those two topics and am in no need of their expertise. On other topics, I am clearly not the expert and that it ok.

I know from last time that if one does not parrot them, they tend to get defensive. It is what it is.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 4:54 PM
TWILL....I can tell you didnt bring it up to lord over anyone. I just thought it was kinda crazy that every response after that mocked your education first and then made there remark.Especially some who take such pleasure in attempting to belittle others......Anyhow I just thought it was funny.......carry on.....smile..........oh yeah arn't you out of touch......to much education........ha!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 7:12 PM
Zook,

You need to quit assuming. You should know from last time where I stand on this. A stimulus would not be the answer. I could prove it out for you but I am sure that you do not need to take a nap.

The simple answer is that we need to cut spending and the American people need to become more independent/accountable. Cutting spending would help the deficit. Americans becoming more independent/accountable would help our net exports. Self-reliance would drive wages down to their more sustainable long range levels and deter some outsourcing.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Apr 19, 2012, at 8:52 PM
the college indoctrination argument is as old. It is unoriginal and is mostly a cop out. Usually those who use that tired argument have nothing else to back it up except opinion/emotion. I have 16 years of life experience being a manual laborer so get off your high horse. Additionally, I grew up in the trailer park so stuff your predictable entitlement argument back where it belongs.

BTW, i am older than 30 so keep assuming.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 9:04 PM
Buckshot,

Maybe in your world, life is much the same as it was in 1776. However, 99.99999999% of American lives in a world that is nothing like that of 1776. So many parts of life have zero mention in the Constitution. However, according to you and others we are supposed to guide our every action based on this even if the topic/concept/idea did not come into existence until 100 to 150 years after it was written. It has its place but not every topic should be governed by what basis it has in the Constitution.

For example, national parks/public lands. Tell me where it is mentioned in the constitution. No inferrence, no interpretation, no reading between the lines. I want only letter-for-letter, verbatim, 100% accurate language that states how the nation should deal with this. The answer is that there is none. Sometimes, issues/topics can simply be viewed on its own.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM
I love how you dodge. You berate me but can't answer simple questions. All you do is take pot shots and tell the world that you are of higher character than them. High character usually means being able to take a challenge head on and not ducking.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM
The point is that we need to broaden our perspectives. People lived solely by the Bible for 1000 years and what did that get them? Misery, filth, digression in all areas of knowledge, and oppression. The Middle Ages (450 a.d. to 1400 or so) were not a glorious time. It was an era of church-sponsored domination. No one ever thought to question it and so their miserable existence. When the world awakened, so came mathematics, engineering, medicine, and science in general. I would say it turned out ok for the most part. Relying solely on the Constitution has the same dynamic. Having an open mind can lead to great things.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Fri, Apr 20, 2012, at 9:33 PM
Buckshot,

Then do not reply to me. If you do not like it, just keep scrolling down.

I asked if you were physically present at the caucus that is the original topic of the thread. What was your response?

"Again, the actual burden of proof is on YOU, not Allen West and not me. Rather than punching in a thoughtless response, I suggest you do some research on this caucus. If you do, you'll find they have been historically linked to socialism since their inception. This obviously continues to go right over your apathetic noggin."

Hmmm, there is no answer to my question. This is classic dodging. Call it what you want but you are guilty.

Two, on another thread I challenged you to show me where nuclear power is in the Constitution. Your response (in short) was that I should not be marginalizing the Constitution. If what you have to say is so far superior to mine then it should be easy to confront these challenges. Or at least be of solid character and admit that you do not have the answer. I have done it many times.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 9:37 AM
BTW, if you do not believe me about the misery that was the Middle Ages feel free to do some reading. There are thousands of books written by scholars of all sides of the spectrum that unanimously agree with me. My history professor at Boise State (heavily conservative) who is considered one of the top three in the world when it comes to early christianity and the middle ages is where I came to these conclusions. Feel free to debate him. I predict that some on here would develop a case of loser's limp.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 9:55 AM
The idea is not that religion is bad but rather that following something blindly and never questioning is bad for society. Nobody and nothing made by people is perfect. Nothing, in my book, is free from questioning and scrutiny. The instant that we just accept something as untouchable, the closer we get to being like how they were in the Middle Ages. Is that clear enough?

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 12:06 PM
Again, I brought up having the Master's Degree for one reason only. Having been on many blogs (not just this one), when socialism is brought up people feel like they have to define it for you and give you a lecture on what it is and wny not to do it. Having endured many of these lectures, I was trying to prevent yet another. I was predicting that you were going to try to enlighten me with a post about the dangers of socialism and so thought it best to nip it in the bud. Honestly, having the Masters is just a test of one's patience and perseverance. Most of the knowledge comes from one's own reading/analyzing/studying/etc. that occurs outside of the class.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 12:23 PM
SPEAKING OF HANGING SOMEONE I THINK I JUST WITNESSED THAT.......ONLY THIS WAS SUICIDE.HOW'S THAT FOR GARBAGE........HA !!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 1:45 PM
Buckshot,

I think we can agree to disagree on some things.

Back to the topic. At least economically, I think most Conservatives have it right. My only issue is that they come across the wrong way. A lot of what they write comes off as narrow-minded and simplistic. They actually might be well-learned and know quite a bit. However, their words can paint a different picture.

So that it's abundantly clear. I do not support socialism. Simply because it does not work. If it did, I may have to reconsider. However, it does not and so the further we go down that road the harder it is going to be to get away from it. Allan West is going about this the wrong way. There is no way to prove/disprove his allegations. If he is going to make them, he needs to back them up with solid info not just vagary. He undermines the credibility of the party by engaging in what is essentially gossip. Republicans are on the verge of something good. A lot of the red states are the ones that experienced the least damage from the recession and are the ones that are on the rise now.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Sat, Apr 21, 2012, at 5:34 PM
ASSININE IS TO DISAGREE WITH BUCKSHOT.....WHAT IS ASSININE IS TO AGREE WITH AND ---........you cannot talk to anyone without some snide remark.When you get, if ever, to a point that someone can disagree without the name calling and when you realize the whole world doesnt think like you.Maybe someone will listen to what you have to say.JUST as what was pointed out to you it comes across narrowminded and insulting which is what you seem to want.That only shows how insecure you are otherwise you wouldnt do it ,you would be secure in what you say.I think you should consider you are the only one who does it EVERY post.

You talk about what is wrong in a society ....where are you when those things are being perpetuated against me????? Now that it might affect you you are whining.Not a peep from you about any of the issues that have transpired about mistreatment in a variety of issues because they dont affect you as you see it.I got news for you all of these incidents affect all of us sooner than latter.....withholding information from the martin family shows a legal system that does not administer equally.WHEN THAT ARROGANCE COMES FULL CIRCLE WHO IS NEXT.....YOU.That should upset you but it doesnt,I wonder if it would if it was your child,or relative???? Believe it or not this case frames class and racial warfare in one neat package. Close your eyes and try and project yourself into someone else MAYBE then you will see what I am talking about.

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Apr 22, 2012, at 8:31 PM

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