“We’re Sorry………..We’re SO Sorry”………..

It makes me sad too. They don't seem to have anything other than a mob mentality over there. If something doesn't go their way, they riot, plunder and kill.

I don't think that we can change that, ever.

My vote is get the heck out! How many years now and the place is still a money pit filled with people that don't want us or the government we are backing. It took the British and the Russians about 10 years each to figure out that place is a losing proposition. Just another Vietnam in my opinion.

I agree we can't change them nor can I understand what makes this administration, or any for that matter, think that democracy will work in a Muslim country. In order for democracy to be a viable form of government there has to be a separation of church and state, to some degree, our founding fathers recognized this. All aspects of their daily lives are governed by the Quran so that is not possible. Some people just need a strong dictator to keep them in line.

The United States should get out and stay out. They have fought amongst them selves for thousands of years and they will continue to do so. The Western Nations should adopt a policy whereby any country that detonates a nuclear weapon on another country's soil shall be immediately turned to glass then we should back off. I believe other nations would come on board with such a policy. That sort of deterrent worked well between the US and the USSR.

Thanks Old Vet, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

I'd even go farther than that, Roy. Under no circumstances should we get involved with Syria. In spite of what McCain says, if we knock out Assad the Brotherhood or some other fanatical Muslim group will move in and take over. It won't be a democratic regime for the reasons stated in my last post.

I am extremely conservative, I seldom agree with your posts, Roy, but we are on the same page on this one.

Thanks again Old Vet.

It would be cheaper and easier.

Mike, we could slaughter them by the thousands and they wouldn't care. Look at what Iraq and Iran did to each other. We've been there about 10 years too long. Every time this administration talks about getting out, all they get is grief from the Republicans and others. As for WW2, different time, different place, different politics.

Bazookaman, we went into Afghanistan with a clear mission. That mission was to get Osama Bin Laden, drive out the Taliban and exact some retribution for 9/11. At the present time there is no clearly defined mission.

Politicians don't seem to be able to look into the future very far. Just like in Libya, lets go kick some tail, get rid of the dictator and then.................? We'd have been better off to let them have their civil war and determine their own future. Either way the hard-line, fanatical Muslims will move in under another dictator. This same scenario will play out in Syria whether we intervene or not.

That is what will happen in Afghanistan now or later, but it will happen. Due to the fact that we no longer have a clearly defined mission we could be there another 10 years just to save face. We could lose a lot more young American lives just to save face. I don't think that is reason enough to spend something as precious as one American life. Let them have their country, they will be fighting with each other for who knows how long and let us be. If not, we go back and kick em again.

I was very impressed with George Bush Senior and the way he handled the first Iraq war. He started with a clear mission, accomplished the mission and left the country and their military in shambles. That's what we should have done in Afghanistan. When there is a terrorist attack on Americans, anywhere in the world our response should be hit them fast, hit them hard and get out. Once the Arabs understand the consequences the will stop harboring terrorists.

Be careful Old Vet, you make sense! :-) If I expressed my feelings with words that fit, It would be bye-bye Roy.

Now McCain wants to bomb Syria and Newt wants to start a war with Iran!

Fine, suit them up first, and second raise about 500 billion in new taxes for each year we at war to pay for them.

Quit starting and fighting wars on borrowed money!

Roy, don't get me wrong, I'm not a pacifist. I wore a uniform, once, and was prepared to give my life for my country if necessary. I think there is a time to fight and causes to fight for. We are the big boys on the block and that is a good thing but let's not be the bullies on the block.

I hope Romney shares my views, even a little. Yes, Roy, he will be the next Commander and Chief, much to your disdain, I'm sure. But we had to put up with 4 years of the Commander and Clown, now it will be your turn.

Well, Old Vet, I respect your service and your common sense. War is serious, something some folks don't seem to get.

Romney I could live with. A lot can happen in 8 months.

Some things I do know. No one and nothing can bring down the unemployment rate to 6 percent or less anytime soon. Gas prices will continue to go up. The housing market may take decades to recover. Everybody and everything is overextended and now is the time to pay the piper.

America spoke loud and clear in 2008. There was a correction in 2010. 2012? Who knows.

Roy, I'm glad you are ok with Romney. Now that you made that statement, you know that you can't bad-mouth him for the next 4 years, right? Ron Paul would have been my choice but that aint happening.

The gas prices are easy. Right now several states mandate their own special blends and additives, that has an impact on prices. Ship the same fuel to all states and, bingo, a substantial drop in prices at the pump virtually overnight. For the long term; develop the reserves in North America, build a pipeline or two and that takes care of that.

As far as unemployment; do the above and that would be a good start. Cheaper fuel costs would spur business growth. Divert funds from the waste in entitlement and other programs to maintaining the country's infrastructure and bingo again.

I spoke loud and clear in 2008 but no one heard me, Roy.

Bazookaman, one last show of force before a graceful exit suits me just fine but let's do it from the air. While we are at it, hit some strong-holds in Pakistan, as well, then cut the purse strings.

To Old Vet, Mike and Buckshot. Take a real look at the gasoline market. Domestic demand is down, supplies are up. The "Free Market" would dictate a drop in price, right? The problem is there is in fact no "Free Market" left. The supply is controlled by the speculators. There is virtually no spot market left. We export the equivalent to the 3 largest gasoline refineries total output. The Keystone pipeline is designed to ship oil to the world market, and we will still have to compete with the world market prices for oil.

The housing market has always been the driving force to our economy. With the number of houses foreclosed on and not on the market, the market is just waiting for them to be released. The depressed prices they will bring will continue to depress the housing market.

To think that 4 years is more than long enough to undo the damage of Graham-Rudman is foolish. The banks that were controlled by Glass-Stegall, and were no long controlled due to Graham-Rudman, are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the full implementation of Glass-Stegall.

When Graham-Rudman came down the pipeline, the banks said, trust us, we will behave. History has shown otherwise.

In the end, it will be all about the money, and which party and candidate can and will be bought.

The days of Free elections are GONE!

Whatever the catastrophe befalls this country next will be well deserved because we have sold our collective souls for 30 pieces of silver.

Unfortunately or fortunately, whatever side you're on, capitalism is driven by greed, that's just the nature of the beast. The challenge for any good Government leader, such as the President, is to harness that greed and use it to benefit the overall good of this Nation. Obama has failed to do that, in fact he seems to undermine this great nation.

There once was a great President, a democrat at that, that said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Liberal democrats have turned that statement around, these days and instead of making sacrifices for the good of all or the good of the nation, they now expect the nation to make sacrifices for the individual. This is not in line with the principals that this great nation was founded on. In my opinion, the type of greed that fuels the entitlement mentality is the worst kind of greed.

Family used to be the safety net for the aged, the infirm, the unemployed etc. now it's the taxpayers. No government can afford this and no government will last with that kind of doctrine.

Why is the Republic doomed?

I got a forwarded e-mail from someone on this board. It said In God We Trust was no longer on the dollar coin. It took me 2 seconds to find out In God We Trust has been on the edge since 2007. This by a congressional act in 2005. It doesn't have a darn thing to do with the present administration.

Lies and half truths abound.

I got the same email from Zook which has been going around the internet since 2005 when it was decided to put "In God We Trust" on the edge of the dollar coin

The Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2005 states: "The inscription of the year of minting or issuance of the coin and the inscriptions 'E Pluribus Unum' and 'In God We Trust' shall be edge-incused into the coin." The measure was passed by unanimous consent in the Senate and with an overwhelming majority in the House, and quietly signed into law by President Bush on Dec. 22, 2005.

Just pointing out the lies and half truths being spread.

The truth does not suite the purpose OF REASON,THE HATE INUENDO'S AND LIES MOTIVATE BETTER. IT DOESNT REQUIRE UNDERSTANDING.I recieved the same E-MAIL found out the same thing.IT would appear that everything that is wrong in this country is Obama's fault.For the life of me I cannot figure out how you can be blamed for things before you and things you cannot control,but heck why not?????? got to blame somebody, especially when you have no idea's or solutions of your own.Havn't heard one person say what should have been done except ROMNEY...AND HIS SOLUTION WAS BANKRUPT THE AUTO INDUSTRY.I WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY HE WOULD HAVE MADE OF A DEAL LIKE THAT???????? At least he stuck to his guns for ONCE.

MS M how dare you tell us press BUSH did it.I thought all you liberals did was lie,you arn't lieing are you???????? MUST BE A MISPRINT....

Some on here only like to rant and never want to seek the truth.

The truth will prevail!

Thank you so much Buckshot61 for your gracious offer, however I am not in need of a cracked mirror.

Buckshot I should of said your mirror is warped and I wouldn't want my prettiness to look out of shape or showing a false image. May the truth prevail!

Why don't you libs move to a socialist country or form your own country and leave ours the way it was meant to be when the founding fathers created the constitution. A lot of socialist countries are finding out that socialism doesn't work and they are leaning more towards capitalism in hopes of saving their countries. Castro even said that socialism doesn't work in Cuba because his people are too lazy. Socialism makes people lazy because they can't keep the fruits of their labor but must let the government have it so they can spread it around to people who don't want to work. I don't understand why its so hard for you libs to understand this simple truth.

SW

Last time I checked we weren't a socialist country. You need to get out of the house more often...

Oh shoot! No Mandates and I thought Social Security was one of those. DUH!

Yes, social security is a mandate - duh! You don't think it was created by constitutionalists or conservatives back then, do you? Roosevelt started this country on its way to becoming socialist way back then and its been full steam ahead ever since. I don't even think you have a clue what socialism is if you don't think this country is becoming socialist.

Second Wind: As you have proudly stated twice now, you wish libs would move to a socialist country or form your own country? And you go on to say "the way it was meant to be when the founding fathers created the constitution".

Is it just me or isn't your idea of intolerance of other political parties/views pretty darn close to communism? For sure it's called the "one party system".

I'm only intolerant of other political parties/views when it infringes on my personal freedom - you remember, the freedoms that were guaranteed us by the constitution which the current administration circumvents or ignores to pursue their own agenda? As another blogger so succinctly stated, our freedoms are being taken away little by little by socialists. If you people think socialism is so great, why don't you move to one of the many socialist countries? Why try to turn this country that was founded on democratic principles, into yet another failed socialist country? Shouldn't there be a country left for freedom-loving people?

The constitution protects ALL American Citizens, freedom of religion! Any Muslim who is an American Citizen can build a Mosque on Property they paid for with their own money within zoning laws for each city or county...

Second Wind: What personal freedoms have been taken away from you? Being specific might help me understand how banishing about 50% of the adult population of the US would makes us more "founding father" like. That is what you are advocating for isn't it? A country composed of only Republicans and/or conservatives.

My point was the Muslims who you and your buddy's are so against building of the Mosque near ground zero are in their right to build one. I don't know if you know this, however there were 2 mosques inside the trade buildings and there always has been Mosques in that area. The one they are wanting to build is more then a Mosque, they want it to be interfaith and have a Gymnasium, Swimming Pool, Library, and School. Not all Muslims are terrorist's, not all Lutherans are criminals etc etc. When it was in the news and cain was still in the race, a group of muslims down south were wanting to build a Mosque so they would have a bigger place to hold their meetings. They held events to raise the money to buy the property, which they did. When a handful of town people got word of this, they started all kinds of havoc for them, even burning their equipment for working the land. It went to court and those people lost and Hermain Cain told those towns people "I have your back" last I heard their still going to try and take the Muslims back to court.

At least they got NO money from our Government to build their Mosque. To put it in a nut shell Cain was willing to ignore the Constitution...

There's nothing I can do alone to change where are tax money is spend, however if you started a petition and got a lot of signatures to get the ball rolling, maybe "We the people" could make a change... When do you want to start?

No Bondy, I'm advocating for a country composed of people who believe the constitution is the law of this land. A country where our government works for the people and not the other way around. A country that does not get us massively in debt by spending our tax dollars on their own personal agenda - and borrowing from China and other countries when they run out of money. Even though the majority of people in this country were against health-care reform, Obama shoved it down out throats anyway.

Buckshot

I'm sure that Mosque down south didn't receive any tax money.

However your right, Mosques all over the world are getting money from us along with churches and temples

Here's a link

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/funding-mosques-overseas/

This program was passed by congress during Clinton's time in office in the fall of 2000. The first Grants were given out in 2001 by The first George Bush.

I suppose if Romney moves into the white house he will change that, No churches, Mosques and temples around the world including right here in the USA will get our tax dollars anymore. He will probably change that tax exempt thing we have going on, while he's there running our Country.

If he makes that change......... collection plates are going to get heavier..

Here's a little Joke for you

Little Girl VS a Republican Congressman

A U.S. Republican Congressman was seated next to a little girl on an airplane so he turned to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger."

The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, "What would you want to talk about?"

...

"Oh, I don't know," said the congressman. "How about global warming, universal health care, or stimulus packages?" as he smiled smugly.

"OK," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"

The legislator, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea."

To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss global warming, universal health care, or the economy, when you don't know crap?"

And then she went back to reading her book.

Bazooka, I'm betting there's a lot more of us out there, and the "silent majority" is speaking up. There seems to be real excitement with the Republican election. Even though we might not have the best candidates that we could have hoped for, it seems people are really anxious to make "Maobama" a one-termer. THERE IS HOPE.

Second Wind: You said "No Bondy, I'm advocating for a country composed of people who believe the constitution is the law of this land."

And you said "Why don't you libs move to a socialist country or form your own country and leave ours the way it was meant to be when the founding fathers created the constitution."

Do you stand behind your "all liberals should move" statement?

Second Wind

What do you think of Sara palin's recent statement on one of the fox news programs. She said "Obama wants to take us back to PRE-CIVIL WAR DAYS"

What do you think about that? A conservative said it!

Bondy, yeah, I sure do. For those wanting to turn this country into a socialist one, and not follow the constitution.

MsM, I have no idea what she meant by that, - what was she talking about when she said that? That's certainly not what he wants to do. Without seeing her whole conversation, I can't comment on that.

Here's a video What do you think Is Obama dividing our country along racial lines?

does she even know what she is talking about?

http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-boston/video-of-sarah-palin-saying-president-obama...

Bondy,

I never said "all liberals should move" - you're putting words in my mouth. I said that I thought that people who want to turn this country into a socialist one and ignore the constitution should move to a socialist country and stop trying to destroy this country. All liberals are not necessary socialists. Now, a question for you: what is it about socialism that is so enticing to you? Is it the entitlement programs? The redistribution of income? Do you have kids/grandkids? Aren't you concerned at all about leaving them an enormous debt that they will have to pay for the rest of their lives? Republicans are the only ones speaking out about the national debt and calling for a balanced budget. I notice that when you make comments, it's all about put- downs of conservatives/libertarians. You never explain why you think socialism is a better system. Why is that? Care to enlighten us?

MsM, okay, I watched the video. Unlike you, I understand what she is trying to say. Sarah Palin, and many others, think that Obama is using race and class warfare to separate Americans. He has promoted class envy by attacking Americans who make a certain amount of money (especially $200,00 or more) as not paying their fair share. He has created an atmosphere where Americans resent other Americans who make more money than them. He says its unfair and the wealth needs to be redistributed. That philosophy is called socialism. Secondly, he has been and is still now a racist. Listen to who his disciples are from his college years. They have said they hate the white race. He sets up "African-Americans for Obama" groups to help him get re-elected. Is that not racist? Palin is trying to say, I think, that not since the Civil War days has their been such a racial divide in this country. At least, that's my interpretation of what she is saying.

Second Wind: Please go back and read what you wrote. Pretty clear that you wrote this:

"Why don't you libs move to a socialist country or form your own country and leave ours the way it was meant to be when the founding fathers created the constitution."

Then you go on to say:

"Now, a question for you: what is it about socialism that is so enticing to you?"

Where in my comments did I say I find socialism enticing? Please be very specific and use quotes for your unfounded and completely false insinuation. I'll be waiting for your proof, Second Wind. Without this proof, I'll just assume you are another one of those people who have a need to mislead.

What I found offensive (yes bazookaman, I can be offended too) was the insinuation that your political ideology has a lock on our constitution. You know the part in that document that says "We the People"? I figure if the founding fathers wanted extremist factions or just one political ideology to plot the course for this country, they might have said something along those lines.

You see Second Wind, there are a lot of people who believe in and would like to practice what's in our Constitution. Unlike you, I don't think people with different viewpoints from me should have to "move to a socialist country or form your own country".

SW You didn't even see what she said. She didn't say civil war days..........She said PRE-Civil War days.

The rest you have to say I very much disagree. If anyone who is making people show envy of wealth it would be Romney.

BASED ON WHAT WAS JUST SAID.......CAN I ASSUME THAT INCLUDES A HOST OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROFESS TO SUPPORT THE USA BUT FIND THE TENENTS OF THE CONSTITUTION IS ONLY FOR SOME AND NOT ALL EQUALLY????

It leaves a lot to be said when the only thing that comes out of a rebuttal is socialism when so much more was there.The idea that we should be of one idealogy(conservative) AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY is not what the constitutiom denotes. SO how can you subsribe to that and still say your for the constitition? The idea that all ideas are part of governing.... is not a novel premise.There are things in our country that by definition would be considered socialist,that doesnt make it wrong.COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM are not the same.

SARAH Palin should not make any comments about the civil war,history is not her strong suit. MRS PALIN WHO LEFT ( 1 OF 4) COLLEGES she attended...... AS STATED BY HER FATHER.....BECAUSE THERE WAS TO MANY MINORITY'S.....I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTRESTING for someone who wanted to govern us ALL.

The presidents" desciples" I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTRESTIMNG ALSO.HE Could be a racist ,I dought it but he could be.But if having a group called african americans for obama qualiy's him that is a stretch.When you have hundreds of groups lined up against him based on there stated RACIAL ideaology the best that can be brought up is that he is a racist for having this group.....do those others count or do we ignore them,AND IF SO WHY?

The pipline was stoped because of enviromental concerns.The pipeline crosses the country's main aquifer.It was stated that there would be a deeper impact study done which wasnt complete,then there would be decision.The pepeline would change nothing on current gase prices,also the oil in that pipeline is slated to go to the coast to be sold abroad.What we have is a political football not a reality.The number of jobs created would be about 3000.Please consider why decision are made not just the end product.For me with what is happening to other cross country pipelines,and there impact on people,enviroment and cost I am not sure we need to go that route.WE have more wells going here than at any other time in our history.We are exporting more than ever and you and I are paying for it.Lets turn inward and ask the oil co's why we are being gouged??? WHY ARE YOU SO RELUCTANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION?? Easy to point the finger lets make sure it's in the right direction.

MsM, I listened to what Palin said, it's you that is having a hard time with comprehension. Civil-War Days, pre-Civil War days, what's the difference? I got what she was trying to say. And pray tell me, how is Romney promoting class envy?

Bondy, I think Bazooka summed up my feelings and others pretty well. Reread his post - any questions? I have to disagree with you - I don't think the founding fathers wanted this country governed by a mismash of different political idealogies. They wanted America guided by one philosophy - the constitution. My "political idealogy", as you call it, is nothing more than what the constitution says. That is the only document that will ensure a free society.

Lamont, there are many examples of Obamaa's racist leanings (let's start with his mentors in college). And I wonder what you'd say if Romney created a bunch of "white-Americans for Romney" groups. You'd be shouting from the rooftops that he is a racist.

SORRY SW I would not be calling Romney a racist I am saying that EVERY FACTION IN THIS COUNTRY FORMS GROUPS SUCH AS LATINO'S FOR/AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR.WHITES FOR ETC I FULLY EXPECT IT.wHAT I DONT EXPECT IS THAT IF YOU OR I WANTED TO JOIN ONE OF THOSE GROUPS THAT WE WOULD BE EXCLUDED.Please do not try to tell me what I would do I dont think I am telling you what you would do.PEOPLE dont pick THERE mentors nor do you neccesarily subscribe to there leanings.You made a very potent charge so please substantiate it.If I used your perameters then EVERYONE OF THEM BACK THERE IS A RACIST.TO INCLUDE GINGRICH,SANTORIUM,PAUL,AND ROMNEY.....OR DO THEY GET A PASS?????? Remember it was your qualifier not mine.

ZOOK.....THE EXPORTING THING IS A GOOD QUESTION I DONT WANT TO SAY THIS BUT......we dont count just making money does......but I will ck on the oil co's rational.

You and I have talked about the iraq oil,funny how that seems to be totally forgotten about.MY guess, absorbed into the oil co's global supply and we are to lazy or scared to say get our share here now.

GOOD question have to do some reading on that.

THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE CONSTITUTIOM CAME FROM AND VOICED SOME VERY DIFFERENT POLITICAL IDEALOGY'S THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SUCH A SIMPLE BUT COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT.THEY RECOGNIZED THAT A DIVERSITY OF IDEA'S GAVE YOU THE BEST CHANCE FOR GREAT SOLUTIONS.......NOT PERFECT ONES,NOR DOGMATIC ONES.

BUCKSHOT ....if you see the formation of such groups as racist that is your business....but please include them all.INCLUDE THOSE THAT DONT START WITH AN ETHNIC IDENTITY.The key for me is if I am denied entry and I STATED THAT.sO IF YOU WANT TO JOIN AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR OBAMA and they deny you entry.LET me know I'll file suite with you.

Second Wind: You have turned your opinion over to bazookaman by saying:

"I think Bazooka summed up my feelings and others pretty well. Reread his post - any questions?"

I do have a question for you. This question is in reference to what Bazookaman wrote and I quote,

"i think when people SIDE with people who are AGAINST us, they should have to leave. And when they appease, comfort or collaborate with our enemies, they should be shot for treason."

Could you please define specifically who the citizens are that you are referring to as "people who are AGAINST us"? Without an answer to this question I'll just assume you are talking non-Republicans.

Bazookaman:

You've stated more than once, and several have supported your statement, that those who cradle socialism in our country should just leave this country. You also stated that anyone siding with people who are against us should HAVE to leave.

You also stated that anyone who appeases, comforts or collaborates with "our enemies" should be shot for treason. Having already stated that our enemies are those cradling socialism and those siding with them, I can only infer from your statements that you are willing to do whatever it takes to get socialists, socialist sympathizers, liberal leaning peoples and ALL their families and friends out of this country.

So let's just say that we are going to put this into action rather than just blowhard words on a blog today.

What steps will you take in order to clean this country out and get rid of anyone you feel doesn't support your groups beliefs?

1) You first need to identify those who cradle socialism. The easiest way to do this would be to start with voter registrations. Round up all who registered Democrat. At that point you can either choose to paint them all with the same socialist/liberal brush since they DID register as Democrats, or you can hold tribunals. Painting them all with the same brush is more expedient in order to reach your goals. The rest can be sorted out AFTER you've expunged the worst of the bunch.

2) Now that you've rounded up the group, you have a choice to make. Do you stick to your word and give them the option to leave the country? It seems like the reasonable choice, since there may be a few who actually are NOT socialist leaning or liberals, but who registered as Democrats simply because they didn't know any better.

3) Now let's say that 70% of the group agrees to leave this country when you give them that option. Most probably will happily go out of fear that they will be persecuted for their beliefs if they stay here. What to do with the remainder??

4) Now it's time for some tribunals in order to assess the remaining Democrats. While awaiting their day in court they'd need to be put into some type of internment camps in order to provide for the safety of the rest of our citizens. After all, if left free to roam the country they might foment more socialist revolution!

5) Once the tribunals are finished and those adjudged guilty have been ousted on a slow boat to China, we still are going to have to deal with anyone who appeased, comforted or collaborated with "our enemies". It's fairly easy to identify family members, who can be assumed to have given comfort, but rooting out the collaborators and those who were appeasing is going to be more difficult. What to do?

6) Assembling a task force who is empowered to employ agents for spying and to do other types of secretive services is the only way to move freely enough and to be able to pry out information on the collaborators and appeasers.

7) You will need to make it well known that all collaborators, appeasers and comforters will be shot for treason. The best way to insure that ALL remaining people in our country understand this is to shoot a few and tape it, then to run it on a nightly tv show.

There's a lot more that will need to be done once this first wave of socialist leaning people are ousted from our country, but this is a start. Don't forget that there may be liberal/socialist leaning people groups in border states. Oh wait, might as well clean up the illegal immigration problem too while we're at it! Jews/Catholics/Pole's, it's all the same in the end. It's just getting rid of the people who don't agree with "us", right?

Bazookaman,

Just the fact that you have said that you weren't born yesterday, and wouldn't be so stupid as to put your list on the internet SCARES me!

I was being facetious in an effort to make a point. The point being that just talking in the way that you do ends up gathering followers, and they in turn get excited and then that can lead to actually believing that they SHOULD take steps to do something...and that CAN lead to the scenario and list that I made. Oh good lord, please tell me that you misunderstood me and that you would NEVER make such a list!

Bondy, People who are against democracy, people who want to alter the U.S. constitution to suit their own political agenda, people who want to control Amnericans and take away our personal freedoms under a socialist/communist regime. Am I clearer now? And how about you? What political system do you lean towards? If you don't care to share your political pursuasion on a forum about politics, why blog in the first place? I guess I'm a little confused as to your objective for posting. Care to enlighten us?

Second Wind: I am a Republican. And my objective of posting here is to find the truth, demand the truth and expect the truth out of my political party and its supporters. Can't stay on the truth, want to mislead or have opinions you cannot back-up with solid information then you are part of another political party.

And you are now abundantly clear in who you think should leave this country or be shot for treason. I really like your statement "people who want to alter the U.S. constitution to suit their own political agenda".

bazookaman: Well, it certainly sounds like you have a plan to take care of those liberals. You can have your Republican Party if that's the new Republican Party agenda.

Holder Outrage? From what I understand, the law is being followed and/or enforced by the DOJ. As far as the broader issue of requiring an ID to vote? I think the time has come to require ID to vote in any election. But I have to say a "police state" comes to mind when everything we do requires "papers".

No offense there Bondy, but you sure don't sound like any Republican I've ever listened to. And you know what they say - perception is everything.

And just so you know, I don't think the Republican party needs or wants people like you.

Second Wind: You are accusing me of lying about my political affiliation. Why would I take any offense to that?

So, why not back up that accusation with some facts and quotes. Show me exactly where on this website or my own where you "perceive" I am lying about being a Republican. Without an answer, I'll just assume you are trying to mislead again.

And I'm a little concerned that you think "perception is everything". I'm beginning to see a solid trend here...where you think perception trumps facts.

bazookaman:

1. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving me permission to call myself a Republican. It means so much to have your endorsement.

2. In addition I'm jumping with joy that you "technically believe" I am a registered Republican. Without your technical belief, I'd feel less than whole and would have to consider getting a Ronald Reagan tattoo on my forehead.

3. Bazookaman, what laws, regulations or statues is the DOJ breaking. Please don't give me any of your partisan political rhetoric. Use facts and case law for your argument. Heck, I might even accept a Fox News Anchor saying the DOJ is breaking the law.

You see bazookaman, I rely on facts and experts to give me insight into these types of things. I'm not as ninja smart as you, Buckshot and Second Wind when it comes to laws. And while I technically believe you are an expert in the Voting Rights Act I'd like a second opinion.

I guess with this post, in your eyes I should probably be taken away in chains. My only question is, should I be shot for treason or not. I'll leave that determination up to you.

Assume away, Bondy, I couldn't care less. Just keep posting the same drivel you always post and we'll keep assuming what you really are - you're not fooling anyone on here who knows anything about politics. Call yourself whatever label you want. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then, by golly...

Zook Whats with the caps lock? Are you yelling at Bondy?

ARE WE BACK TO ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE????

please clarify !!!!!!!!!!! DIDNT WE DO THIS ONCE ALREADY........we dont like the results so lets change the rules........that is ok if your in power but if your not you might take issue with it..........JUST A THOUGHT.

Bradbury: Both you and I know this Texas case is all about the following:

"Texas has not "sustained its burden" under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act to show that the new law will not have a discriminatory effect on minority voters."

Just because you want to turn this into constitutional issue doesn't mean the DOJ is/was acting illegally. But nice try trying to mislead.

As far as your 2nd comment?

- The Civil War? Good distractor but not exactly pertinent to the DOJ/Texas case.

- You seem a little annoyed that I prefer to use experts in something as complex as law? What is it with you, Second Wind and Buckshot in preferring to use "perception" to backup your point of view. I don't have a law degree. I suspect you don't either. Maybe your two disciples have law degrees?

- You're trying to use the "Common Sense" argument when it comes to law? Both you and I know when it comes to the law, common sense went out the window a long time ago.

- Anyone can sort this out in a heartbeat? Obviously this is another one of those perception things you wish was true. In reality, it isn't turning out that way unless you're talking about the DOJ shutting down the new Texas law.

- Airplanes, liquor or cigarettes? Good distractor but this case is about discrimination no matter how hard you try to turn it into something else.

- Komrade Holder? Bradbury, do you really think using those "buzz words" really helps you make a point? Maybe in the 1950's or on the elementary school playground is was cool and all. But in this day and age it makes you sound ignorant.

- Holder my buddy? Not my buddy at all but you certainly seem to have some kind of thing for him. Why would you even think Eric Holder is my buddy? Oh, I get it! You're trying to mislead again.

As you so plainly stated, "Your "experts" didn't write our Constitution---our FOUNDERS did." But I think I have been told pretty succinctly by you and your disciples, the US Constitution doesn't apply to "my kind". Bradbury, when will the train to the concentration camps arrive for all of the liberals and sympathizers.

OK.....STACKING THE DECK......HOW COME THAT ONLY APPLIES TO ONE SIDE.When the conservative base does it it's patriotic,if the liberal base does it it's communistic,unamerican etc.YOUR words suit the other blog on voters rights in georgia.

THE SOUTH said only certain people and then went about ensuring just that,and they were and are AMERICAN CITIZENS.TEXAS is tryimng to do the same thing.......I'll say it nobody else will.....SOME PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH THAT THIS BLACK MAN COULD BE REELECTED......IT BOTHERS PEOPLE SO BAD THEY ARE WILLING TO REFIGHT THE CIVIL WAR.I SAID IT BEFORE JUST LIKE BONDY SAID WHEN ARE THE TRAINS TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS GOING TO ARRIVE????.YOU ARE ADVOCATING OUR WAY OR THE HIWAY......BECAUSE YOU HAVE DEPARTED FROM THE CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENT,AND HAVE A LONG TIME AGO.

WHEN is the hollering going to stop?????? when your in the streets linning people up.If the deck was truly stacked he would have won by more.The exscuse if he wins this time will be fraud ,that is already being placed on the table.I have question,what are you going to do with all the bodies??????? or havnt you planned that far ahead??????.

And so it begins. The Republican Party begins implementing "loyalty tests" to members:

1. Tim Bondy proclaims he is a Republican.

2. Buckshot calls him a liar.

3. OpinionMissy does the same.

4. Second Wind tells Bondy "I don't think the Republican party needs or wants people like you."

5. Bradbury gives Bondy permission to call himself a Republican.

6. Bradbury tells Bondy "If you say you're a "registered Republican", I technically believe you."

My question to the Republican Party Loyalists is simple. Should those of us who you have "marked" as having questionable loyalty to the Republican Party wear a Red Star or a Yellow Star?

Bradbury: I support you in right to rant, whine and cry all you want when it's your opinion. But when you come straight out and tell your "followers" The AG should be placed in jail and shot (as a traitor) for no apparent legal reason I will jump to his defense. I figured that any good Republican would do the same. Guess I missed the memo that authorized the lynch mob.

Hey, Bondy, why don't you wear a red star and a yellow star, one for each nip (kind of like pasties). Man, I'm sure glad you weren't voted to the City Council. You would have bored those other council members to death.

Amen Second Wind.

Bondy, you claim to rely on "experts"...I would make sure that some of those "experts" crawl out of a bottle for more than 3 minutes in a day before you give them the title of "expert." Stupid is as stupid does.

Things have taken a turn towards the bizarre in the Republican Loyalty Test. Appears our very own Republican Party Loyalists "Second Wind" and OpinionMissy want to see me wearing pasties. I'm concerned.

Bazooka, why are you wasting your time? I'm sure you have better things to do .This dude didn't get elected to the City Council, no one is reading his lil ol' website he set up to show how witty he is, so he gets on here to show that, somehow, he is relevant after all. Don't fall for it.

I think we should all have a meetup this spring or summer. What do you say there Second Wind?

Bondy:

Rest assured that I would much rather walk through fire with my feet marinated in gasoline than to ever see you in pasties. "Republican Party loyalist"...once again, you are not truthful in that statement. I vote the people, the issues and their supposed positions and that includes voting for a Dem if their position(s) are more in line with my political views. And for the record, I voted for Mr. Crawford, a Dem. I would probably vote for him again depending on what he has to say regarding the current issues facing this county. Time will tell.

And please, keep your clothes on. You would be doing pasties a disservice. Just saying...