The Republicans You Only THOUGHT You Knew

Posted Tuesday, December 13, 2011, at 10:50 AM
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  • I never voted for Perot. I like newt and I think he is great at debating. He is better at debating then any other candidate......Just to darn bad he has a not so good past with his fellow Republicans and he is wishy washy. He seems so mellow up there at the podium and he can out smart all of them up on that stage..... Out of all of the candidates, I find him to have the most confidence. The others seem unsure of themselfs

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:11 AM
  • I don't know what will happen in 2012, but I do know that we all need to get our own acts together on so many levels.

    The honor and right to vote is as serious as it gets. Some will say that a single vote does not make a difference, but it does. It makes a difference in how you feel about yourself and your country.

    I didn't vote for Perot either. Mainly because of the split votes.

    Again, opposing parties are like two teams in football. Each one wants to carry the ball and prevent the other from getting it back or scoring.

    When we allow the party system to dictate how the game is to be played out, we are losing control of the football. And the only way to get everyone working toward the same goal is to admit that some key players need to go, and the head coach also.

    You may not play so good on one team, but getting traded to another may put you in the hall of fame.

    Again, I will quote what Romney said at an earlier debate that should be our mindset for the coming months. It isn't so much what needs to be cut, but what can we afford to keep?

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:30 AM
  • What I like about him is......... he is good at debating and he never looses his cool. However his past history in my eyes makes him a scoundrel and I would never vote for him because of that.

    I won't be voting for none of them, not that I don't like them but because why change in the middle of the stream? Plus I don't see how any of them can make every thing change as fast as they say they can..... We had been on a downward spiral before Obama got into office and its going to be sometime before we get back on our feet no matter who sits in office...

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 2:57 PM
  • I am not sure that anyone currently in the "pot" is worthy of a vote. The sad reality is they are ALL crooks. The question is who will do the least amount of damage and take the least. Pretty sad day when elections roll around. Bright side...being rid of the current jack...rabbit...currently holding that post. I have to believe that we could not do worse than what we have but our choices, currently, are not much better.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 3:32 PM
  • Whew ! I must be having a senior moment I am almost totally agreed with you. Except for your stream version. My stream ain't fast or deep. lol!

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 3:36 PM
  • Nobody in there is apart from all the crooks and shovelers from the biggest manure factory in the western hemisphere. I want Lou Dobbs for his views on the economy and the border and Rudy Giulliani for his organizational skills.

    -- Posted by NonnyMouse on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 5:21 PM
  • Great blog, Bazookaman. These are times when we come so close to saying, "There's no way out. Just let it go." I worry that a lot of us (Rs) are going to say that it's just wasting time to go vote. NO, I'm not that way! But I do worry that a lot of people, probably on both sides, are going to feel this way unless someone on the R side comes out and gives us a decent choice. I can't believe that there's no one on our side that hasn't the 'guts' to come forward and give the country a REAL candidate. Think back to when JC was president. I know a lot of folks that had just given up hope until Ron came on the scene. I heard a LOT of people poo-poo his claims of bringing the country back to being great. BUT HE DID IT! Maybe there is someone out there somewhere that will come forward. If not, we can PROBABLY run almost anyone from our side and win if O keeps putting us deeper into debt with no chance of recovery (except with huge tax increases that will put the country in the dumpster). But, only if we have a great voter turn-out. Obama is a an egotist, self-centered, 'know-it-all', and using the presidency to further his family's entertainment. WE are PAYING for their travels, will be paying for his idiotic spending practices, and of course, the Congress's stupidity of condoning it all. It will be many years before we can recover from his idiotic thinking. YES, get rid of at least 85% to 90% of them ALL in this election, and then finish it in the next couple of elections!!!!!

    -- Posted by texasred777 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 5:35 PM
  • I'm not sure if anyone has seen the analysis of Newt's tax reform plan. The rate that the national debt would increase would make Obama look like a piker.

    Once again I challenge anyone to find 1.5 TRILLION dollars in waste in the budget. Yes there is some, but not almost 30% of the total budget. Please give amounts saved for the cuts you propose.

    Current expenses.

    464 BILLION = DEBT PAYMENT

    662 BILLION = PARTIAL DEFENSE SPENDING

    120 BILLION = WAR COST

    800+ BILLION SOCIAL SECURITY/MEDICARE/MEDICAID

    TOTAL ALMOST 2 TRILLION DOLLARS

    BUDGET AROUND 3.5 TRILLION DOLLARS

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 6:27 PM
  • Well, if Newt is elected, what is the right going to say about a national debt of 25+ trillion, your already yelling about 16 trillion.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 7:07 PM
  • Mike, I was listing the essentials. They account for almost all the money we bring in. We must make our interest payment. So, cut defense? Cut Social Security that we payed into for decades? Same for Medicare/Medicaid? God Mike, tell me where we can cut enough not to have a deficit?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:25 PM
  • Again, ask yourself the question. What can we afford to keep?

    There are millions being spent on useless studies and grants. Cut all the Czars out too. The first cut in the budget needs to be an across the board salary reduction of all elected officials and a larger contribution to their benefits, such as insurance and retirement.

    We can also cut any department that has been redundant since the 1950's. Like Rural Electric.

    We can tell our elected officials that their districts are on a strict budget. No earmarks for the next 4 years. Absolutely no crazy off the wall research grants. And take away the postage expense granted to each official. They can include that in their re-election fundraiser and any trip monies too.

    If the president or any other elected official wants to take a trip that is not department related. they must pay for it out of their own pockets. If they take a trip that is department related, have them stick to a budget and minimize their expenses as much as they possibly can.

    For those who want to pay more than their fair share, sponsor an elected official's staff funding or their related expenses while in Washington. We could save a bundle there.

    Just imagine if you told all of these guys that the gravy train is really over and that they will have to account for every penny that their office spends, and that their salaries will be slashed in half, including benefits. I think that you would find a great many people "retiring". We could also impose an age limit. If you are over 75, you need to retire. Give someone else a chance to do the job.

    My list could go on and on. We could have taken that stimulus money and returned it to the taxpayers. They in turn would have stimulated the economy by buying cars from the Automotive Industry, paying off their own debt, improving their homes or buying new ones. And possibly starting a business.

    But no, we couldn't be trusted with all of the personal money. So a select few received it and how is that working out for any of us now?

    No cuts on the regular stuff, just cut where it will hurt the most, our elected official's pocket books.

    If their wallets were a little lighter, maybe, they would figure out why the natives are so restless.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 10:02 PM
  • Bonnie, that is all well and good, but the fact remains that it is nowhere near 1.5 trillion.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 5:05 AM
  • it's a start, which is more that what they have been doing.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 7:06 AM
  • HAVE YOU EVER FLEWW INTO n.y.????????? IF YOU HAD YOU WOULD KNOW WHY THE TRADE CENTERS WERE TARGETED.IF YOU RECOGNIZED THE SYMBOLISM YOU WOULD KNOW WHY THEY WERE TARGETED......THE UN SITS NEXT TO THE RIVER THE IMPACT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS GREAT.......AND THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THE PLANES WOULD HAVE WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING. tHE WORLD TRADE CENTER IS RIGHT IN A FLIGHT PATH TO LA GUADIA MADE IT EASY NOT TO BE NOTICED TO THE LAST MINUTE. BESIDES THERE ARE 3 METROPOLTIAN AIRPORTS SUROUNDING n.Y.....I dont think people realize how many aircraft are overhead that city at any given time,if they did they probally would stop flying into there.

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 9:55 AM
  • All of your comments are all nice and fine, but the fact is, that after the 3 essentials, there isn't ANY money left for anything!

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 12:59 PM
  • Buckshot, I posted those at 6:27 pm yesterday on this blog.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 6:57 PM
  • ZOOK....YOU ARE SUCH AND IDEAOLOG THAT YOU WONT EVEN ATTEMPT TO SEE ANYTHING EXCEPT THE WAY YOU WANT.IF YOU THINK THAT THE WAY YOU COME OFF IS PRODUCTIVE I THINK YOU SHOULD RETHINK THAT.This blindly full steam ahead will, if you ever get a chance get a lot of people killed.Is that what you want??????? I am beginning to wonder......

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 8:53 PM
  • Buckshot, I listed the debt interest payments, social security/ medicare/ medicaid, and defense. I also threw in war cost, but that is winding down. I provided the dollar figures. I provided the total. I provided the estimated total revenues.

    From your answer and others, all other programs and departments are expendable. ie, FDA, USDA, Homeland security, HHS, Dept. of Labor, the list is long.

    So unless you advocate cutting defense or social security et al, then it seems that simply not paying the interest payments on the national debt is the only source of funds. Am I correct?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 5:56 AM
  • In some ways I'm starting to feel like Mike. I ask a question, present facts and figures, and all I get is rhetoric. No answers, no positions, just rhetoric. Why is that?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM
  • Of course Buckshot, except Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid. They had trust funds that were emptied by the politicians to give the appearance of less deficit spending. The amount stolen was in excess of 2.4 trillion. Were it not for that fact, those 3 programs might not even be part of the general budget.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:09 AM
  • To quote Mike, that was then, this is now. The damage has been done by both parties for decades. My point to the politicians is keep your freaking hands off Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid! And that goes for anyone else who wants to tamper with those programs that we have paid into for decades and now are ready to draw on!!!!

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 6:19 PM
  • No answer at all Buckshot. Do you advocate cutting benefits in the programs I mentioned? A simple yes or no will do.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 7:30 PM
  • To all those who live on Social Security and rely on Medicare, remember his words.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:55 PM
  • Those of you on military retirement, beware! I'm sure your next in his sights.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:56 PM
  • I didn't say taking away, you did. I said cutting.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:17 PM
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    Each year we give a certain local minority group a $30,000 subsidy and have been for over 15 years. No one seems to care about this completely unnecessary welfare subsidy and it's something we can easily eliminate. Maybe we need to start looking in our own backyard for cuts before looking in far away neighborhoods. Just saying.

    -- Posted by bondyweb on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:40 AM
  • Well, Mike, Buckshot seems to say he's willing to cut your military retirement benefits. It's the Conservative way.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:12 PM
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    $1 Trillion budget agree upon by the House! Check!

    Extended unemployment benefits and payroll tax cut extension being tied to a totally unrelated oil pipeline still be worked! Check!

    The People being held hostage by our government! Check!

    Thankfully nothing has changed in the last 3 years.

    -- Posted by bondyweb on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:14 PM
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