We Just Pick on EVERYBODY, Don't We??

Posted Sunday, October 9, 2011, at 5:00 PM
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  • Well zook, not much here I can disagree with. To tell you the gods honest truth, I'm not sure what I'm going to do if there isn't some real change as the result of the next election. While we may eventually balance the budget, I really don't think Americans as a whole have the stomach for what it will take to pay off the national debt, keeping taxes high enough to generate a 400 billion surplus every year until the debt is retired, about 30 years.

    What do you think? Can you stomach what it will take for the next 3 generations to get rid of all this debt that was incurred by nothing short of madness? Will they be able to stomach it? It makes me sick to my stomach that my kids, grandkids, and great grandkids will be stuck paying this utterly stupid debt that was mostly incurred on our watch.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Oct 9, 2011, at 7:02 PM
  • Evening Homer

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Oct 9, 2011, at 7:03 PM
  • i will say it again it is not worth talking about......For some reason people think because MR CAIN IS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU SUPPORT HIM IT SHOWS THE NON BIAS......SORRY NOT TRUE.YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.O DONNEL ASKED SOME POINTED QUESTIONS THE OTHER NIGHT OF MR CAIN...I DIDNT FIND HIS ANSWERE TRUTHFULL. AND THEY HAD TO DO WITH HIM. Anyhow I will not argue with people who have prejudged and that is what happened.I will say this....MONEY DOES NOT MAKE TRUE FRIENDS.....WE SAVED FRANCES BUTT AND THEY THREW US OUT,WANTING TO KNOW" WHY THE DUMB THAI DOESNT SPEAK ENGLISH" .....IN THAILAND.Is the American he was apologizing for if you can conceptualize that??????? You must think everyone see's America as without fault....not true.I said it before I should not have to be better than to be the same as....that is what the FIRST LADY was talking about.Went right over most heads.MR cain sat it out and you know what....he really didnt have a good reason was going to morehouse college 67-72.More power to him, a heck of a lot of us would have liked to have gone with him.....look this doesnt amount to anything.Think what you want...you want and AMERICA THAT TURNS BACK THE CLOCK I DONT.I want a strong vibrant one that accepts all it's people equally.........I could have made individual points to rebutt you but why? nobody's listening. You guys have all the answers. I KNOW THIS, I WILL TRUST NON OF YOU....MAYBE I WILL START CARING IN 2012.....SEEE YA...!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Oct 9, 2011, at 7:15 PM
  • Mike, I think you may have missed my point. Even if we manage to balance the budget through the cuts you suggest and more if needed, there is still the issue of securing enough extra revenue(surplus)to start paying off the debt over 30 years. The 400 billion currently in the budget for debt service simply pays the interest. It will take 400 billion extra for almost 30 years to pay it off. The we want lower taxes people don't seem to understand that a sustained surplus for many years is required to get our financial house in order. It's going to take a beans and rice diet for 30 years to get our country where it should be. Most likely you and I will be long dead before this country is debt free, and not beholden to anyone. As long as we are in debt, our debtors call the shots, not us.

    When it comes to the national debt, I am most likely the most far right person you may have met.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Oct 9, 2011, at 8:34 PM
  • And as soon as we had a surplus, this country elected a bozo who proclaimed that the surplus was the peoples money and should be returned, and everybody said YES YES YES. And then we spent ourselves into oblivion. It happened before, even money says it will happen again.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 5:06 AM
  • Oh, one other thing. The only reason we had a surplus was because they had raid the SS trust fund again. Real numbers said we still had a deficit.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 5:09 AM
  • Oh boy!

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 7:39 AM
  • Amen, Zook..............Mouse

    -- Posted by NonnyMouse on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 8:57 AM
  • THE PROBOGATION OF NUCLEUR WAR...WE WILL INTIALLEY LAUNCH AND THEN WE WILL DIE !!!!!!! The whole premise is so simple.Why is it we cant see that ?? Why do we think we will get away unscathed WE WILL cease to function as a society.I will say it again once we launch every missile in the WORLD will be pointed at US.The rest of the world will say when will they come after us if we dont do what they want.NUKE WEAPONS... DOES IT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ????? IT SHOULDN'T.I HAVE SEEN WHAT THEY DO, I SAT NUKE ALERT ALL OVER THE WORLD....TRUTH BE TOLD YOU SHOULD BE SCARED TO DEATH........PRES REAGAN HAD NO INTENTION OF TAKING THAT GENIE OUT THE BOTTLE,HE KNEW THE RAMIFICATIONS.The russians at one time had us outgunned and they didnt use them they knew it was a loose loose for everyone.Any conservative or liberal who doesnt is not worthy of leadership of any NATION...OUR MILITARY KNOWS IT......THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED A DETERENT.....

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 9:56 AM
  • Mike, you never did respond to the question of, do you think the American public will have the stomach to endure decades of surplus in order to get out of debt?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 12:34 PM
  • MUSLIM UPRISINGS IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND ????? I thought we stood for self determination leaning towards democracy.So getting rid of dictators is wrong now ?? or JUST IF MUSLIMS DO IT ?? I see we have and expert on nucleur deterrence and of course he is right. If and when our expert gets around to it please do some reading about why that trigger will not be pulled no matter who is there seeing how my explaination doesnt carry any weight.Then read about the ramifications to the world as a whole.For those of us who dealt with the weapons and have seen what they do and are still doing, hands on(JAPAN)

    BE THANKFULL THAT ALL OUR IDIOTS HAVE BRAINS.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 1:36 PM
  • I ADDRESSED THE ISSUE HOMMER WITHOUT THE NAME CALLING.I ALSO FEEL IF HE HAD TO HE WOULD PULL THE TRIGGER. fUNNY YOU BRIMNG UP ONE EXAMPLE AND THAT COVERS THEM ALL I GUESS. also since when did you seperate radical islam from islam ???

    I know what you saw zook we sat that way in korea all the time at K-55 AND k-8.BETTER KNOWN NOW AS OSAN AND KUNSON.hECK I SAT THAT WAY IN THE STATES AT DOVER DEL AND ATLANTIC CITY N.J. wHEN YOU BLUFF YOU PLAY THE CARD AS IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT. nOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE GET TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING,YOU LET INTELL DO THE REST.

    HECK they have delivery systems,commercial air,merchant ships submarines etc.You dont need a missile unless you dont want to leave home.WE HAVE PROVEN THAT.YOU WANT TO DEFEAT THESE PEOPLE ?????start thinking like them...theatre warfare for now is a thing of the past.OUR military realizes that ,that is why they have retooled,and retrained.Zook you and I have seen this before in namm one person and a grenade in the right place,one good sniper and fear reigns supreme,bad water,i could go on we are learning and art of war that we had left to our special operators.No more all our people need to understand this type of warfare.Even our airforce planes are getting a much broader flt enevelope,we dont always need speed sometimes we need to be low and slow,thats why the A-10 is still around we dont have anything to replace it.We are looking again at piston acft.THE NAVY is in the same boat looking at shallow draft craft.

    ME personally its there country let them do what they want.I dont feel it is worth one American life.We got our 9/11 person. Revenge is served, time to come home NO NATION STATE HAS DECLARED WAR ON US ........TIME TO GO.

    IRAN AND ISRAEL....I ASK THIS NOT IN JEST REMEBER THAT......WHAT HAS ISRAEL DONE FOR US OTHER THAN BEING THE BASTION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE MID EAST?? THE MANDATE TO CARVE OUT A HOMELAND FOR THE JEWS WAS FULFILLED AT THE END OF WW2 WHAT ELSE WAS SOPPOSED TO HAPPEN HERE? The world knows that if ISRAEL FEELS THREATENED IT WILL ACT,WE BY TREATY WILL COME TO IT'S AID SO WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE DO????????? And the question does become will Israel bring the world to war.? That question does get asked a lot and justifably so.FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 5:16 PM
  • Homer, where in gods name did you ever get impression that I think I'm under taxed? The way things are now with the runaway spending, I'm over taxed! When the budget is cut to the bone, and only the necessities are being funded, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, National Defense, and our own infrastructure, then and only then would I gladly pay more in taxes to rid this country of it's debt!

    As many times as I've said that, I don't get where you are coming from. I'm a moderate on social issues, so what? That has zero to do with taxes!!!

    HAVE I MADE MY SELF CLEAR YET?

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM
  • HOMMER YOU JUST TWISTED EVERYTHING I SAID IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO DO THAT GO FOR IT.

    WHAT THE IS WRONG WITH YOU? HALL PASS???? YOU WANT TO STAY FOR ANOTHER 10????I AM LEARNED AND I WOULDNT CARE HOW MANY COUNTRY'S THEY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE 10 IS ENOUGH.I SAID THE EXAMPLE YOU USED IS NOT ENOUGH SO WHAT?????PEOPLE LIKE ME JUST WHAT IS THAT SOPPOSED TO MEAN??????? ...you want to get personal go for it.I AM NOT GOING TO ASSUME. GO FOR IT.

    YES HOMMER they cheered and i wonder what you would do if your COUNTRY was attacked .See HOMMER we cheered when the A bomb was dropped .I DONT CONDONE RADICAL BEHAVIOR BUT I UNDERSTAND IT.YOU ARE SO BUSY TRYING TO PORTRAY ANYONE WHO HAS ANOTHER VIEW AS LESS THAN THAT YOU ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE CONTEXT TO REFLECT A LIBERALISM.I am as hawkish as it comes ,I just believe that before you use the fist of diplomacy(the military) that you get it RIGHT AND THEN YOU DONT PLAY. NOW if you can make that liberal go for it.YOU dont waste the lives of your soldiers,TO MAKE A POINT.The military functions best when the objectives are clear.THE NEXT TIME YOU WANT TO CALL SOMEONE DEAF,DUMB AND BLIND BASED ON YOUR VALUES.ASK YOURSELF WHO MADE YOU JUDGE AND JURY FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF. you REALLY TRY TO PUSH PEOPLES BUTTONS, Is that the conservative way? What does it accomplish other than alienate?? you just have to do it no matter what people dont do.It gets old.MAYBE you think it intimadates and for what ?

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 7:31 PM
  • You should read more of what I write on my blogs then Homer.

    I give up Homer, you just seem to thrive on being contrary.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 7:59 PM
  • Homer, did you even bother to read my first comment on this blog?

    By the way, I'm beginning to think you might be one of those people I mentioned in my newest blog. The kind that think they have the right to decide when and where my Mother dies, not her.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 8:35 PM
  • Ouch!

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 9:08 PM
  • HOMMER YOU ARE LOSING IT.????..I said you try to intimedate. you tell me I wont intimdate you.say what!!!!!!! did you mention iraq and bodies??? yes .That is a country that was attacked.What insult? hommer are you reading something in,did you not call me deaf,dumb and blind and I insulted you ????? I think not. I dont agree and that is and insult....hmmmmmmmk.I most certainly have condemed, you just dont want to admit that.I just havnt done it with a broad brush and I wont.I WILL NOT BROW BEAT AMERICAN CITIZENS BECAUSE OF THERE RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE.CK THE CONSTITUION YOU WAVE AROUND.

    I have factually stated my points AND I DONT HAVE TO.IF anyone is flying off the handle it is YOU. I really dont care what you post hommer, you are identified, we pretty much know what your going to say and how your going to say it.You just proved it.You went off and then you went on a rant about the pressident. That is what you wanted to do from the beginning. WASNT IT THE REPUBS WHO DIDNT WANT OVERSIGHT ON WALL ST AND THE BANKS?????? JUST ASKING ?????( ala liz warren) Last, stop trying to project anger at me and look at yourself I didnt fly off the handle...... YOU DID, OWN UP TO IT.IF I AM ANGRY I WILL TELL YOU BELIEVE IT.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 10:11 PM
  • ZOOK..... I DONT CARE WHY THEY DID IT IF THEY WERE A NATION STATE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AND ACT OF WAR.AS TERRORIST THEY GET NO BREAKS FROM ME AS A MATTER OF POINT I AM NOT SURE THE ARTICLES OF WAR AND IT'S CONDUCT APPLY.NO I AM NOT FOR TORTURE IT DIMINSHES YOUR SOCIETY AND PUTS YOUR COMBATANTS AT ADDED RISK.

    I DONT BUY THAT PEOPLE DONT TAKE US SERIOUS.We accomplish the mission without all the fanfare.We do need to learn how to keep our mouths shut.The ben laden thing shocked me that we were able to shut up.WE have yet to learn one thing,what our enemy is about and how they tick.To do that we have to take the time to know other cultures.That fault has cost us in every combat situation starting in korea. They study us and that is how they are able to inflict the pain they do.I am all about get it done,and I dont mean tomorrow.The kid with a rifle ought to know something about who he is fighting other than the garbage they feed you like a tailgate party.It will save lives and cost our enemies dearly.YOU know i said turn special ops loose and they will get them all.......THEY STUDY THERE ENEMY.

    WE ARE VUNERABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE AND OPEN SOCIETY .wHEN WE START TO DEMINISH OUR OWN CITIZENS RIGHTS THEN THEY START WINNING AND THAT IS WHAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN.I FEEL if our society remains open and stands for all inclusivness the people who want to destroy that will identify themselves and EVERYONE will have a stake in that. We will not allow AMERICA TO BE CHANGED the more stake everyone has in the outcome the stronger we are.For me right now what our congress is showing the world is the biggest liabilty we have.They are like kids at a marble game.......well got to go have a good one

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 10, 2011, at 10:58 PM
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    Quoting MtnHomer -

    "Everyone realizes that the man in the White House is weak."

    Would OBL, Anwar Al-Alwaki and several others who met their maker through Hellfires be the exceptions?

    Twit.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 9:27 AM
  • I know the Untied States should of taken zook out of retirement so he could dispose of bin ladens body, of coarse he would have to go by our rules

    And what the heck is TWIT?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 1:13 PM
  • We NEVER call names on here or make rude comments ! And its a hot day today

    Twit= goldfish which is pregnant Priceless ha ha

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 3:06 PM
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    I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Tue, Oct 11, 2011, at 8:06 PM
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