"Happy Anniversary to Us........."

I'm not sure who you are referring to with our misunderstood Muslim brothers. Plain and simple they are extremest radicals and terrorist who are Muslim.

If this bombing happened in N. Ireland, it would be radical terrorist who are Catholics.

Also, If you are referring to the man that killed R.F.K., he was not a Muslim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

It is this type of misstatement that fosters irrational hate and distrust.

How many Muslims do you know personally? How much do you really know about Muslims besides what has been put forth since 9-11, by people who seem to have an ax to grind? These are also the same people who couldn't tell a Muslim from a Sikh.

Once again not all illegals are Mexicans. They come from around the world.

Timothy McVeigh was an American born Christian,who was a terrorist who murdered innocent American civilians in Oklahoma City.

Money to build mosques?

In a document provided on Monday to Indiana Republican Sen. Richard G. Lugar, ranking member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, the State Department explained that the practice of funding such projects became acceptable in 2003 when the Justice Department declared that the U.S. Constitution's Establishment Clause did not preclude federal funds from going to preserve religious structures if they had cultural importance.

The DOJ wrote: "That advice is provided in the following paragraph that appears in every AFCP request for grant proposals... 'The establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution permits the government to include religious objects and sites within an aid program under certain conditions. For example, an item with a religious connection (including a place of worship) may be the subject of a cultural preservation grant if the item derives its primary significance and is nominated solely on the basis of architectural, artistic, historical or other cultural (not religious) criteria.'"

The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has also spent millions reconstructing and financing multiple mosques in Cairo and Cyprus, as well as providing computers for imams in Tajikistan and Mali.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/24/u-s-government-funds-mosque-renovation-and-reh...

The Constitution prohibits the discrimination you call for by not wanting to let them to run for elected office.

Let's face it Mike, try as we might, we can't always control who our daughters marry. That's why so many fathers have bums for son-in-laws.

Oh, by the way, our biggest ally in the middle east is Saudi Arabia, a MUSLIM country.

Let's face it, we put up with them because they have oil! They are also targets of terrorist because of the way they lead their country, even though they practice Sharia Law.

To anyone who reads these blogs and are either active duty stationed at MHAFB or married to someone who is, how have the Saudi's acted while stationed there?

Roy,

There is not yet any Saudis stationed at MHAFB. There is a Singaporean training squadron (428th Fighter Squadron) Many of which are muslim BTW.

The addition of a Saudi squadron, while pretty much a foregone conclusion, hasn't happened yet.

Thanks for the info.

2003 G.W.B

Hard to believe that this heated topic was posted today. Today should of been a time for mourning and reflection and prayers.....

My opinion wasn't for you Homer, your not the one who posted this blog this morning ............so mind your own business !!

PC....... TO MOURN OUR DEAD.?? YOU FOOLS......???

Well said MsMarylin, today marks the ten year anniversary of a horrific act committed against our country. But some must "seize" the opportunity to further their agenda using what happened as a backdrop, instead of pausing with a moment of reflection.

Oh boy, I am glad that I didn't look at the computer all weekend.

I don't think that we should bend over backwards to be pc, in the same vein, I think that respect should resonate on all sides.

There are bad people and there are people who keep their heads down low and go about their business.

You cannot escape the fact that some religions endorse a philosphy that encourages death to those who don't belong, (infidels). Nor can you ignore the fact that some extremists do not hesitate to use children, women and young men to arm themeselves with bombs and to kill innocent people who have never even met them, let alone caused them any angst.

So as we consider all of the facts, I guess you could compare it to meeting up with a bear on your own property. The bear is doing something that he always does, but he is really in the wrong place, he is on your property now. We don't want to kill the bear, but we don't want our property to be destroyed either. Or our pets to suffer some injury.

I will have to write more in a another response, this one is very poorly written.

Mike, the DOJ is run by the Attorney General who is appointed by the President. I thought you knew that.

In 2003 the President was G.W. Bush.

Homer, I will accept your statements about Islam if you can provide chapter and verse from the Koran proving such. Not the opinions of talking heads on radio or T.V. Facts!

As has been stated by many Muslims, the terrorist have perverted their religion and the Koran.

Roy, check out this website

www.theReligionofPeace.com/quaran/023-violence.htm

www.theReligionofPeace.com

It may answer a few questions for you.

KH Gal, I read quite a lot on the site. Interesting to say the least. I did read that those Muslims who wish to live in peace are also condemned to violence.

I guess the question is, Do we condemn all Muslims because of the actions of some Muslims?

No, I don't think that anyone is wanting to condemn all Muslims, but we don't need to get all pc about everything either.

I personally don't like lumping everyone into one group, but to be fair, if you have one group of people committing violence who happend to be Muslim or some other extremist group, and they have put the label on themselves in their own words, I think that one should pause and think about the lack of outrage by their religious counterparts.

There are lots of people who live on the fringes of society and we should condemn all violent acts regardless of religion or other persuasions.

We cannot deny that there are people out there perverting truths and taking upon themselves a different kind of justice.

We should all have the priviledge of feeling safe as we go about our daily business.

And we should be outraged that many of these groups are trying to infiltrate our own citizens to promote home-grown terrorism.

It is our own personal experiences that determine our outlook on life. And we were violated in the worst way 10 years ago. The collateral damage in the way of human life was enormous.

They didn't fight a fair fight, and they had abolutely no regard for children or other civilians. And this suicide bombing isn't a fair fight. You have no way of knowing who your enemy is or when they are going strike.

Therefore, your percieved enemy is of a type based upon what has transpired before. We cannot get around it because of the type of warfare that they have chosen.

You are only able to move forward with the limited information that you have been given with their preferred operational mode of killing. So< I guess what I am saying is that most people who never gave anyone who looked different a second thought before 9-11, look twice at someone in the airport and other modes of transportation.

We are working off of a type that has demonstrated time and time again that they will use anyone or any means to destroy human life.

So try looking at this from the other side of the fence. We don't know who our enemies are, only that they have promised to kill and maim all Americans, Jewish people and other infidels.

Mike, of course we can. Remember I'm no Obama lover.

All 537 stink!

Wayne, can you expand on efficacious manner? I have a bad feeling what you may mean, but I'm not going to assume.

Mike, Homer, KH Gal, Wayne and Marilyn

I've had 4 hours to think about possible solutions to the problem at hand. The way I see it there three very extreme solutions, and anything more moderate would require taking chances with American lives. I'm going to hold my tongue for now and think about it more lest I say something I will regret at what I hope is a much later date.

Homer, if you had read further, KH Gal provided that link, which I read and responded to. But thanks for the link anyways.

Question, and yes I do know about that nut case at Ft. Hood, what do we do about the 4-7 thousand Muslims serving in the military now?

Homer, one again I ask, what do we do about the thousands of Muslims in our military? A question you seem to ignore.

Some Muslims can't be loyal to our country, I agree. They are the extremest jihadist. The more moderate ones might deserve a second look, but in the long run I fail to see the any moral justification for returning to the mentality that brought about the internment camps where U.S. citizens were put because of their ancestry. The same logic was used. How can they be loyal to this country if they are Japanese. Extreme measures like that can be classified as throwing the baby out with the bath water. And if you have never heard that phrase and don't know what it means, I give up.

So there is your answer Homer.

Also Homer, I do want your opinion on what to do about the thousands of Muslims in the military. I'm sure many of us here on the blogs would love to hear it. Be a man. Speak you mind on the subject.

Mike, is that just the thousands in the military or 1.6 billion people?

Homer, Just how do you classify me as a bleeding heart? I don't condemn anyone. I do ask pointed questions in order to get straight answers like you just provided. I do point out the consequences of certain actions. The Japanese showed how honorable they were with their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, their treatment of civilians and P.O.W.'s. Should I go on?

The greatest enemy that we have is those who do not value life. They may be filled with greed, avarice, drunk with power or violence or lies.

Again, I say, is is a fair fight to recruit young men and even children to carry bombs and destroy not only their own lives, but those innocent lives around them.

As for Muslims in the military. While I don't think that a majority will ever be against the US, it bears watching, especially if there are warning signs that get missed, like the Ft. Hood shootings. But I would say that about anyone who kills.

It is wrong that our representatives in govt. do not govern with integrity and honor. We must hold them accountable. Always!

We must not spread Hate! Hate leads to fear and I don't think our children should grow up that way....

My sister in law was murdered and it was an American white kid that did it....No not a Muslim, not a Japanese.......a kid that was born in America and now resides in an American Prison !

MSM:

No one is spreading hate if they are stating facts that have already been proven out.

We know that there are suicide bombers. we know that we have students in our colleges being recruited. We even know what their belief systems are because they state it very proudly.

A legitimate fear is that someone will decide to come to a school, church or public function and open fire on people. It doesn't matter what color or religion that they are.

A legitimate fear is having our law enforcement, military and other people in authority having their hands tied in trying to Keep America Safe.

Real Hate is when someone says Death to the Americans, and they don't even know us. Real Hate is using bombs to kill innocent bystanders all in the name of whatever belief system you presently have.

All murder is a hate crime. It doesn't matter why, when or how, that person chose to take a life.

We can express our fears, concerns and point out the obvious and that is not hate.

Hate just doesn't lead to fear, but to destruction and we have heard the threats made and have seen the results of those attempts.

How do you feel MSM when the media shows children in foreign countries calling for death to all Americans? Or Some adult dragging a dead American through the streets without empathy or respect?

While our own behavior should be impeccable, it is a legitimate fear and concern to know that there are those out there that truly hate you simply because you are an American.

We need to teach our children that there are bad people in the world. They cannot go through life thinking that everyone will love us if we just be ourselves. There are 3000 people that died 10 years ago, that never hurt anyone.

Teaching your children to have a healthy caution is not spreading hate. It is preparing them for the rigors of the real world. And it is very unfortunate that we have to do so.

We need to stop grouping people together because of the evil ones. We can teach our children that not everyone in this world of ours is nice, we can't shield them from the evils of this world. However we must not teach them hate while teaching them about the evil people that live among us or in other countrys. Not all Germans wanted to kill Jews, and not all Muslims are evil and believe in Sharia Law.

When my sister in law was murdered I didn't group everyone in the murderers age group or color of his skin as murderers !

I never said anything about grouping people together, I pointed out that other people in other countries do so and quite often.

Not all Germans wanted to kill the Jews, but they knew what was going on and stayed silent. No one said that All Muslims are evil, only that their religion promotes a type of violence that is in contrast to what we as Christians believe. that does not make us bigoted.

The sad story is that our children will not get a balance view of history or of world events. And more importantly, there is an entire generation that is growing up overseas being filled with hatred toward the American People. That is what you should be indignant about.

The tragedy of your sister-in-law is a very different thing all together than what is being discussed.

American Children are more balanced than any other children in the world. Why? because we do have a great sense of right and wrong.

MSM: I had a great co-worker who was gunned down by an 18 year old kid who was part Indian simply because he wanted to see what it felt like to murder a black person. That is what contempt for human life is.

When I lived in Spain which was back in the 70's most didn't like Americans then either. Our Military was told not to wear their uniforms when out in public....

Many Germans put their lives in Jeopardy when they hid their Jewish friends.

I got to get off here and get busy, I got 2 big orders to fill :) which requires making 14 items first lol !

Well, I have done my thinking, and here are my conclusions if anyone is interested.

We are attempting to battle an enemy who wears no uniform and who is of many nationalities. The only thing they seem to have in common is an intense hated of Christians in general and Americans even more specifically. They also have a common religion with 1.6 billion people who may have a dislike of us, aren't inclined to be as violent or willing to kill other Muslims in order to kill the infidels. There are some that have spoken out, but may remain silent due to religion or fear. I have heard many theories advanced as to why they hate us. In my opinion they all have a great deal of substance. The question is how to deal with them. Should we treat the ones that want to be left alone the same as the ones that advocate killing us or actively trying to kill us? Do we follow the path of "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer"? Do we do things to actively recruit those who dislike us, but aren't waging war against us to speak up against those who are waging war against us?

This war is unlike any we have ever fought. It is based on ideologies and religion. The enemy comes from every country on earth. There is no cohesive alliance to contain them. There may never be. What action can we take that both protects us, but doesn't reduce us to their level? Somehow we must always be able to legitimately claim the moral authority to justify our actions and keep our political and religious allies. A war of this type can't be waged by a single country or religion with any real hope of having a lasting effect.

I am not an apologist, or a bleeding heart. I am one who believes that before acting, the full consequence of our actions be understood and agreed on by all involved. I have heard many complain about the fact that those who make the decision to send our sons and daughters into harms way have no skin in the game. And your right.

In this war we all have some skin in the game. I believe that we must act with both our heart and our intellect. What ever path we take will have a lasting effect on many generations past us.

My solution would be to find out why so many dislike us but aren't ready to kill us. Just maybe we can forge an alliance that will keep us much safer. This might even give us a better opportunity to deal with the terrorist's more or less in a one by one manner. AKA strategic take outs.

Regardless of what people think of me or my ideas, we do have an obligation to be sure that there are people left at the end of the day to judge our actions.

So, Homer, you would have no problem with the Final Solution ala Hitler?

So be it. Kill 1.6 billion people,including babies, plus who knows how many more as collateral damage.

Hitler tried to eradicate the Jews based on their religion.

And what does that have to do with your desire to kill 1/3 of the worlds population?

Eradicate

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eradicat

eradicate, synonym exterminate. I don't see that as a word game. Now you want to marginalize. Who is playing word games?

1

: to pull up by the roots

2

: to do away with as completely as if by pulling up by the roots

-- erad·i·ca·ble adjective

-- erad·i·ca·tion noun

-- erad·i·ca·tor noun

See eradicate defined for English-language learners »

See eradicate defined for kids »

Examples of ERADICATE

The disease has now been completely eradicated.

His ambition is to eradicate poverty in his community.

Origin of ERADICATE

Latin eradicatus, past participle of eradicare, from e- + radic-, radix root -- more at root

First Known Use: 1532

Related to ERADICATE

Synonyms: abolish, black out, blot out, cancel, clean (up), efface, annihilate, erase, expunge, exterminate, extirpate, liquidate, obliterate, root (out), rub out, snuff (out), stamp (out), sweep (away), wipe out

Yup, especially when the whole link is posted, not just part of it.

Homer, You know darn good and well I am anything but a LIBERAL!! You can ask Mike if you don't believe me. He and I don't always agree, but I trust the words out of mouth that he doesn't think I'm a lefty.

When it comes to the Constitution and monetary policy I am very conservative. On social matters, I would consider myself right of center on most issues. If you think holding a man accountable for his exact words is word games, then so be it. I say what I mean, and mean what I say. That is why I am always very careful in my choice of words. I also hope you remember the one time I was out of line, I did in fact apologize to you.

Oh I will from now on. I'm quite sure anyone of any intelligence will get as far as the eradicate comment, and ignore the rest of the dance routine.

ROY........YOU GOT THAT RIGHT

HA !!!!!!!!!! IT'S ALL IN A WORD.......SMILE ROY

Smilin brother.

3 posts all full of personal attacks,snide remarks,and inuendos,because everyone caught the same thing from the same post.BUT we are all wrong and to prove that i am going to denergrate everyone of you.YOU NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT I MEANT AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT I WILL ERADICATE YOU TO...OH I MEANT............YEAH RIGHT.......THIS IS REAL ??????????? TRUE COLORS YES.......ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN.......RED WHITE AND BLUE.....AMERICAN FIRST.....RIGHT.....NOTHING SAID WAS AND AMERICAN IDEAL,LEST NOT ANY I FOUGHT FOR.But you have the right to say it that is what I fought for....you learn humilty and humanism in uniform to bad we all dont have to wear one.

I dont live for or with your approval hommer.My worth cannot be judged by the likes of you, go crawl back TO YOUR COUCH AND SEE IF YOU CAN ERADICATE YOUR ARROGANCE ALONG WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.pROJECTION HOMMER, CHECK OUT YOUR OWN WORTH BEFORE YOU QUESTION ANYONE ELSES.OBVIOSLY THE SHOE FIT YOU RESPONDED.....YOUR A BAD JOKE THAT GETS TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN......YOU BRING OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE......

Nobody has ever eradicated or exterminated an idea or religion, except by killing all those how follow that idea or religion. The absolute best you can hope for is to contain it.

I'm DONE!

The ONLY FOOL HERE HOMMER IS YOU......YOU TRY TO MAKE VICTIMS OF PEOPLE.....Nobody's buying....you sound like the fool you are. Weak mind trying to exspress itself forcefully........yOU see Hommer I am one of those AMERICANS you would try to ERADICATE.........and no I am not a MUSLIM........TO THE COUCH HOMMER IT''S SAFER THERE...........HA !!!!!!!!!!!

ZOOK......WE WOULD PROBALLY NOT BE HERE.......ISRAEL WILL DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO WHEN THE TIME COMES THERE IS NO DOUGHT ABOUT THAT.The problem is the technology has changed,more people have it and they are more vunerable than before.If Iran were to threaten its neighbors they would stand down and let it happen.He is crazy but not stupid. A nuclear exchange in the mideast is not what the world needs...it will not stay contained there ,that is the problem.The fallout will be global as was the firing of the oil wells.

I say drill at home, get out of there and bring alternative energy to the forefront.WE dug this hole for ourselves every year were are there we put off what we really need to do.The Chinese and the Russians will do it first and then we will be behind the eight ball.We see ourselves as helping and there is a faction there that see us as robbers,conquers,imperialist etc.So let's just leave it to them.They have felt this for years.This same faction feels that the land Israel sits on was stolen from them, and that is not going to change.They do have some legitemate beefs.How they solve them is the issue. The world helped to create the problem but they dont want to help solve it.We will be dead and gone and the problem will still be there.You know whats funny the Arabs and the Jews are genetically BROTHERS.Brothers fighting is the worst fight in the world.....

Zook your going to need help zipping your pants up.....

Take Care Zook.

Yeah you can do one more before Tuesday, heck you can do one Sat, Sun and Monday.

Wish you luck and hope all turns out good for you so you can get back to normal, hee hee if there is normal for you lol! Kidding of coarse ! :)

A few years ago I broke my left wrist and I'm a lefty (don't say a word) lol! that was a lot of fun trying to zip up........

I think that would of been a little hard to do if you had to drive your way back home. Just put it on automatic pilot and snooze home. lol ! With all the accidents on the interstate sounds like most of them were caused because of sleeping. Sad! Sad! Sad!

I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BUT I AGREE WITH HOMMER....TEXTING WHAT A JOKE....I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN BEFORE YOU CAN TEXT IT....AND THAT INCLUDES DIALING THE NUMBER......DONT FORGET THEY WOULD NEED A BLANKET FOR SMOKE SIGNALS .....SO IT IS PROBALLY NEXT.......