The "Piti-Party"

Posted Monday, June 13, 2011, at 9:28 AM
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  • I agree with you totally. I am continually amazed at how tough she seems to be in the face of adversity.

    Did she do anything illegal except be a VP candidate? Or step down from being a Governor after the continual lawsuits were affecting her state's ability to move on.

    So what if she quit. Lots of people step down from a job. We do not hound them.

    But her children should have always been off-limits. And she should be treated like the lady she is.

    There is an unreasoning hatred toward her that borders on insanity. I would be proud to shake her hand any day of the week. I might not always agree with everything she says, but I certainly wouldn't condone filthy jokes about her and her children from anyone.

    Lets go after the real offenders who have truly crossed the line of decency.

    And lets put the President on notice that he needs to do his job and start doing it right now! He is about 2 years behind on his promises and cannot blame anyone but himself for his lack of success.

    Put everyone on notice that they are entering a probation period for their cushy existance. We want someone to get something done besides campaign for the next election!

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 9:53 AM
  • Does it feel as though we are trying to move the manure pile with a teaspoon some days?

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 2:24 PM
  • Poor Sarah :(

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 2:30 PM
  • I wonder if this latest hectoring of sarah palin by the "nattering nabobs of negativism" (pat buchanan could turn a phrase couldn't he) will be mentioned at tonight's republican debate. Any strong tea party conservative had better have the intestinal fortitude to withstand this type of abuse because the lamestream media will go after any opponent of their agenda like a pack of rabid dogs. Of course they will continue to give obama a pass.

    Their hatred of this republic, and the ACTUAL constitution that gave it form, knows no bounds of ethics or decency. God bless America. And may God help America.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 2:46 PM
  • ZOOK.........IT IS NOT JUST THE LEFT WHO FILED AND GOT THE E MAILS FROm HER TENURE OK......NOW they have went after The FIRST LADY.....THEY HAVE WENT AFTER ...THE CHILDREN.......I for one feel all of that to include any candidates children are off limits but both sides do it.GOVENOE PALIN HERSELF HAS MADE INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTS ABOUT BOTH MICHELLE AND THE CHILDREN.

    I personally dont see her as a threat some might that is up to them.The GOVENOR HAS OPENED A WINDOW THAT WE SHOULD NOT CLIMP THROUGH BUT WE WILL.I do think that they are giving CONGRESSMAN WEINER A PASS........I DONT LIKE THAT.....HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING........it is time for him to go.....we have these people on both sides again.......THE ARROGANCE OF POWER....ENOUGH.

    Now i know you needed to get this of your chest so it aint no big thing nothing personal about it.

    GO FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 2:56 PM
  • -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 4:23 PM
  • HEY ....one thing i know somebody left out something or added something.....just for fish and chips....garbage. I would like to see the whole comment..........anyhow it matters not except it keeps the circus going.We for sure have mor important things to take care off........you know and i know all tripes on af one are official in some capacity.You and I might not like it but they will justify them.

    The only problem I have with GOV. PALIN is she uses everyone to include her family I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT......She should not put them out there the way she does that is my OPINION ONLY. I dont think everyone is out there for political gain there are some publicity hounds,and gotcha people , scoop a story make it bigger etc it is probally more about money.....isnt everything? got to go.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 5:12 PM
  • Lamont, I think that you are looking it the wrong way. Sarah has graciously introduced her family to us on several occasions in order that we could all see how unique each of her children are and how beloved that they are to her and Todd.

    She has also introduced the State of Alaska to us in a completely different way. She isn't afraid to get her hands dirty or hunt for game for her freezer. She has showcased the various industries and cultures native to Alaska.

    Every other politician has put their families out there complete with plastic smiles. And how many long-suffering wives have had to stand by their philandering husbands as they make self-serving apologies just because they got caught.

    How can you protect your children and still allow them all of the experiences that life has to offer? You must squarely put the blame on the media and their rabid scrutiny of this family.

    They have a right to be in public places. They have a right to be treated with respect. And most of all they are good kids who don't deserve the spite that has been rained down upon them.

    Would you rather that they be kept hidden in a cave until they grew up? We have to be a better society than this. Quit blaming Sarah and start blaming those who make it their life's work to be hateful and mean.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Mon, Jun 13, 2011, at 7:28 PM
  • kh gal...I am not blaming GOV PALIN but she knows what the media will do.SO if she exposes them they will be written about good or bad.I DO NOT ADOCATE WHAT THE MEDIA DOES TO CHILDREN NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL.SO IF YOU TOOK IT THAT WAY YOU HAVNT READ MY OTHER POSTS.I have advocated children are hands off,and that includes the OBAMA children,who by the way are good kids who deserve respect.CHILDREN FOR ME ARE HANDS OFF PERIOD.

    Sounds like you are angry about philandering husbands,I would ask this question,based on statistics only, how many philandering wives do you figure are out there????????? THIS IS NOT A ONE SIDED WORLD. I am not advocating for political husbands or wives,to be philanderers however i bet there are some females out there they just havnt been caught.......and in case you are intrested i want REP WEINER TO RESIGN,ENSIGN GOES TO JAIL,EDWEARDS,VITTER,ALL ARE A DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY......SOLDIERS GET COURTS MARTIALED AND JAILED OR KICKED OUT.WHY NOT THEM???????

    THE media isn't hatefull and mean per se they are out to make MONEY at any one's espense, even if it KILLS you and your family........remember the publics right to know....dont ask me what i think of that you should know.....got to go i hope that clears it up.I MAY NOT LIKE GOV PALIN BUT SOME THINGS ARE RIGHT AND SOME ARE WRONG.....SHE SHOULD STAND FOR THE SAME.

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 9:11 AM
  • Palin wears big girl pants and she knows how it works. If you don't want your children exposed to the media you don't put them out there so they can be. Heck even her daughter Bristol likes the limelight, she was on "Dancing with the stars".

    The Media will do anything for a story, I know that. Look at the rag Mags with their catchy titles.

    Obviously the childrens exposure didn't bother Sarah as much as you bloggers. She went on to show case them on her Television Show and most recently her televised tour around the Country....

    And Weiner.......he needs to put a bun on it and step down...

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 9:21 AM
  • Lamont:

    Most of the politicians are men and they get caught with their pants down on a regular basis. I haven't seen too many women admitting to extra-curricular activities.

    The media is mean and hateful. They want a story sure, but some people practically froth at the mouth about certain people.

    Late Night Talk Shows and Daytime One too, use people's tragedies and weaknesses as joke fodder and it is just plain wrong!

    As for Bristol, she is trying to work for herself and her son. You don't see her at parties or doing the talk show route. Dancing with the Stars invites people on their show not the other way around.

    As for Sarah taking her children with her on the tours, would you rather that they stay home with a Nanny and miss the opportunity of touring the states and meeting fellow Americans?

    Most Celebrities and Performers take their children with them. Why can't Sarah?

    As for the Big Girl Pants, that is all fine and good, the issue is -that a line is being crossed on a consistant basis and it is just plain wrong!

    We should all be more civil to each other and demand it from the media for everyone! And I do mean everyone.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 10:20 AM
  • Celebrities take their children with them and most celebrities don't show their children, they try their best to protect them....

    How often did you see the Bush's daughter's out there, and the few times they were exposed, the media went after them..

    Even the Clinton's didn't expose Chelsea very often

    Governor Schwarzenegger how often did you see his kids?

    It's big money to get even one photo of a celebrity or a family member and beat everyone else to getting the picture out there...

    If you think it's a good idea for sarah to take her children on a tour with her or on television then its no argument when the media goes after her. :)

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 10:46 AM
  • KH GAL .....are you looking for and argument??????I AM NOT....SIMPLY PUT FOR THE MOST PART i AGREE.....BUT IM WITH MS M YOU PUT THEM OUT THERE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.......you dont have to accept and invitation you can decline. Funny thing I HOPE TAKE THE KIDS MEET THE PEOPLE APPLIES ACROSS THE BOARD.

    I did not argue civility I HAVE STATED IT IS WRONG i CANT DO MORE THAN THAT.

    I will stick to my guns.....,statistically there are women out there doing the same thing.....we look at it different when and if we look.....it is like teachers...male teacher inappropriate behavior ....we throw the book at them.....a woman does the same and we po po it.....its the double standard thing.......no body admites to that behavior, YOU GET CAUGHT.

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 11:11 AM
  • I never thought about it much until this past year. How do you think that the Kennedy children felt about JFK's assasination being reviewed over and over again. Or Princess Grace's children being scrutinized for every breath that they took?

    How do you think any child feels when they see one of their parents being skewered in the media? And don't tell me that the parents can keep these things from them in this age of technology. They can't.

    Chelsea was protected, but that didn't mean that she lived in a bubble.

    What I am saying and will continue to say is that lines are being crossed. NO child should be fair game by the media regardless of their exposure.

    This like saying if you buy a ticket on the game preserve, then some of you can ride on the bus and be protected, but some of you will just have to take your chances and walk.

    Who gets to decide that?

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 11:32 AM
  • It shouldn't happen but it does the media goes after the children, because its money in their pocket and I guess that's their right to make a living at others expense.

    Sarah knows this but she continues to expose her children to the media so it shouldn't be I feel bad for Sarah it should be I feel bad for her children.

    The thing is the children will grow up thinking its ok to live this way under the looking glass

    Sarah is all about Sarah an making money, after all isn't that really why she quit Alaska?

    Oprah has done more for the people of our Country then Sarah can only dream about

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM
  • I never heard about someone tapping into palins mail?? If your talking about her email being released recently I guess that would of had to be either with her approval or the State of Alaska?

    I still believe she quit Alaska for her own personal gain. Once she seen she had become a star she hit the road to get more attention, and make money, then she went on to write a book, do a television show about Alaska which I think turned out to be more about Sarah !

    If you believe other wise then she definitely shouldn't run for President

    Oprah has a huge heart she gives millions to charity for the people of this country and she has given away big expensive gifts to people sitting in her audience, gifts that most people can't afford.

    She has also talked about lots of problems we have here at home, and have brought guest's on to help others with the same type problems. Her show has always been informative, while at the same time she is reaching out to people. One more thing she never had to do it by riling up people to spew hate and violence. Oprah would never had said

    "Don't retreat reload"

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM
  • The first introduction to the nation of a vice presidential candidate's family usually happens at the national convention when they are named to the ticket. It is traditional for ALL such candidates to introduce their families, including children, at that time. Articles are written and commentators mention what a nice family and then attention shifts away from the kids. That is the NORM, but that is not what happened with the palins. From the time sarah and her family hit the stage in minneapolis the republican haters in the media went after her AND her kids. No, no nice grace period for sarah. So don't say she started it all because she did what a candidate always does.

    By the way, everything that oprah gave to the members of her studio audience was provides by the marketers of those products, she didn't dip into her pocketbook to pay for them. She just took the credit and the publicity for it. She played the game better than about anyone else. She DID help a lot in new orleans in rebuilding some homes, much to her credit.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 4:48 PM
  • Well Palin extended the norm by continually exposing her children to the media. In my eyes she put her kids out there and that should not have happened. She should of protected them more from the media just like other celebrities do...

    The Clinton's and the Bushes said very strongly "Hands Off" when it comes to my children and kept to it by not using their kids and establishing a much bigger privacy zone around their children.

    And as for Oprah even if she didn't pay for the products out of her own pocket including the car giveaways she is the one who set it up with the company's and made something positive happen for some people...Wish I would of been in her audience to get one of her give aways lol !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 6:15 PM
  • Zook you have forgotten about some of those tea party gatherings with their hate signs. I don't agree with you that "Don't Retreat Reload" is a positive message, it isn't to me !

    Don't twist my words, I never said anything about Bachman or Boehner, I was speaking of only Palin ........Isn't that a Republican thing.......taking words out of context or throwing extra ones in?

    Hey I am all for taxing the rich like Bill Gates and Oprah, if they can give money to charities why not more to our Country.

    Bachman didn't adopt 23 children they fostered 23 children and have 5 of their own... That reminds me if Palin throws her hat into the ring, Bachman is going to give her a big run for the power seat.

    She also loves the outdoors

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 7:22 PM
  • You brought up some great examples of people who have given their all.

    Oprah has been generous, but there are so many others who give quietly and without fanfare.

    Mother Theresa gave to the poorest of poor and still was able to give even more until the day she died.

    I still find it curious that Sarah cannot take her children to a ball game without a talk show host making a raunchy comment about her daughter who was under 16 at the time.

    I find it curious that Sarah is not allowed to tour the US with her children and enjoy our country, but we have all loaded our kids into a van and toured the country side. She does not call the media and say, hey look at me and my kids. They come to her, hoping to find a slug under the rock or some other unsavory vermin to condemn her with.

    You take your children with you, It is not your fault if the news crews hound your every step. Should the kids never play outside or take trips or accompany their mother on speeches because of the "danger" of being exposed.

    Can they not live their lives as they wish? If they found a niche to make a living who are we to condemn it.

    Instead, you should watch Toddlers and Tiaras and see where "mothers" expose their children to the pressure of competitions and make them wear makeup and do dances and talent acts that are positively vile. Those are the mothers you should complain about. They are trying to live out their own childhood dreams by cheating their own daughters out of their childhoods.

    Those are the reality shows that should be canceled and condemned. Those mothers should be hauled off to jail for exploiting 4 & 5 year-old girls to unscrupulous producers and directors.

    I am done commenting on this blog. We still have a media who picks and chooses where to draw blood. There is no excuse for this and no one can blame the parents when in fact, they keep their children with them and don't hide them under rocks until they turn 21.

    They don't make them dance on stage with a thick coat of make-up. They are teaching them about the United States and letting them meet people of all ages, races and creeds.

    They are not screaming profanities at each other nor do they encourage anyone else to do so.

    The darts keep coming and someone is always blaming the target instead of the person throwing the dart.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 7:48 PM
  • The media has been prying into celebrities lives for decades and we can't take the way they make a living away from them unless we change our constitution. They have as much right as say Sarah does. The public feeds off of her as she feeds off the public .......

    I can go about in public without being bothered by media as well as you can ..........WHY because we aren't famous nor are we out there in the public eye.... That's the price ALL celebrities have to face, it goes with their territory and if the circus isn't for them, then they have the choice not to join it....

    I'm sure there are plenty of other people who are out in the public eye that can't do the things we can do on a daily basis.

    Look at Michael Jackson he tried to protect his children and the public thought he was odd in putting scarves over his children's heads so the media couldn't see them and exploit them by plastering their pictures all over the television and newspapers

    I agree with you about those little toddler pageants .......... I wish they would put a stop to them. And as long as they are out there they will get coverage by the media

    Oprah came to mind and I didn't purposely mention her as the only one that has a big giving heart. We are blessed with many people in our country as well as the world who are big humanitarians

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 8:48 PM
  • I believe children should be off limits to the media and it should have always been that way..

    You would think the Politicians would want to work on keeping the media away from their children !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Jun 14, 2011, at 10:43 PM
  • WE..... have danced around a key point here....GOV PALIN exspressed strong support for family values and yet she had 16 yr old prganent daughter and that got the press to running,plain and simple.Now i am not passing judgement on that,I HAVE EMPATHY AS A PARENT.I think she handled that in the best interest of her daughter and the public be darned, however that is not how the media operates it was a story and they ran with it.

    AS FAR AS BEING UNDER SOMEONES SCRUTINITY 24/7 AND the hatefilled garbage no PRESIDENT has had more than this one, to include his wife and children (pimp and *****) AND THAT IS NOT OVER THE TOP WHAT IS ???????? This has become a gotcha game rather than rational information.

    It is hurtfull to me that I dont hear condemnation from the right on that kind of stuff to include this blog.I dont like any of it directed at anyone but that is me.Strength,honesty,and integrity the right does not have a monoply on that.I think the 1st FAMILY has a claim in there without a dought.

    Talking about a microscope and governing.What has the right done from day one with this PRESIDENT ????And im not defending i am pointing out facts.It all works the same way, it's all about who's turn is it in the barrel.THEY NEED TO GET OFF THE CHILDREN......PERIOD

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 7:40 AM
  • HOMMER DID I SAY IT WRONG???> I AM NOT BLAMING PALIN FOR ANYTHING......i STATED THE REASON THE MEDIA DID WHAT THEY DID .DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SAY THAT I AM BLAMING HER I AM NOT. i MADE NO CHARGE AGAINST HER ,SAYING SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE OBAMA CHILDREN SO I DONT KNOW WERE YOU GOT THAT......YOU stated scrutiny and i made a statment about this president i did not SAY GOV PALIN said anything. i ALSO STATED AS A PARNET I HAD EMPATHY,I ALSO STATED I WAS NOT PASSING JUDGEMENT. MAYBE HOMMER you should go back and read it again......talk about jumping the gun.......YOU are quick to talk about defending if you had read the entire post you wouldnt be making the charges you made so now who is defending when none was neccesary ???????? KINDA LIKE LAMONT SAID IT SO IT HAS TO BE WRONG,READ THE POST

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 11:01 AM
  • Hommer That was palins job... She got paid to do what she did...

    Oprah also made money because she had a show on television.

    Her give away's on her show didn't come out of her own pocket but she set it up for those people to receive expensive gifts.

    However she has taken money out of her pocket by helping people in need. She is a humanitarian!

    She build homes for the people that were victims of Hurricane Katrina. She has also build a school for the children of Africa.

    I'm sure there is a lot more she has done for the people of America.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 11:16 AM
  • SORRY HOMMER THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY....I DONT DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN PERIOD. SO IF YOU CANT ACCEPT THE LATTER POST AS TO WHAT I MEANT ....THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 1:16 PM
  • DELTA MAYBE GOOD ENOUGH BUT HE HAD TO KNOW THAT CANT HAPPEN.....LINES OF SUCCESION

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 1:17 PM
  • Hey Zook this weekend (Saturday) Obama and Boehner will be golfing buddies.. What do you say about that?

    Funny thing if Obama sat in the oval office day after day you would find some fault in that lol !

    OMG ! I just remembered they have a big family dog... guess they shouldn't have a dog because us tax payers are paying for his food. HA !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 1:45 PM
  • HOMMER IS THAT NOT WHAT i sayed....what issue???MAYBE THESE POST ARE NOT IN ORDER I SAID WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. NO ISSUE......YOU KNOW for someone who is always quick to jump there are some remarks by the GOV to include 'THIS IS DEDICATED TO MICHELLE OBAMA " In reference to her campaign about obesity.or the comment about some politicians wife so there are comments hommer i just dont care to go there.ILL SAY IT AGAIN THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT TO SAY.....NOW MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE AS QUICK TO ADMIT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, SNIDE OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. Anyhow I refuse to make and issue out of something that I apologized for.YOU ought to try it.

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 4:32 PM
  • I almost forgot I OWN MY WORDS ALL OF THEM.....I DONT CUT PASTE OR ANY OTHER THING .I HAVE ALSO STATED THAT BEFORE.......I DONT HIDE BEHIND ANYTHING.......I SEEK UNDERSTANDING AND UNDERSTANDING ONLY.........

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 4:36 PM
  • It is curious that bachmann was, by innuendo, called racist because she said she would seek the advice of the top brass who actually run the military day to day before making her decision. Yet that is exactly what every other candidate there said, with the exception of ron paul. But bachmann is singled out. One could almost draw the conclusion that some who lean left have issues with the idea of a strong, conservative WOMAN. Jump on palin, now time to start in on bachmann.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Wed, Jun 15, 2011, at 7:36 PM
  • I AM NOT KNOCKING ANYONE ....YET......MY statment infers that REP BACHMAN would take the same stand that kept the military segregated.PRES. TRUMAN.said NOW......at the time that was not politically correct as some would say.That is and anology I used.

    I AM NOT CHALLENGING WHO EVER YOU ROOT FOR....EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING TO OFFER......I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT PEOPLE CAN ROOT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE RIGHT AND ASSUME WHATEVER THEY SAY IS OK.BUT ANYTHING FROM THE LEFT HAS GOT TO BE WRONG.WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS CALLED. well i got to go i am watching the history of the kkk.There are some intresting facts on them socially and religiously,to include recent up to date activity.BUT I AM AWARE THAT ONLY I WILL SEE THE RELEVENCE.......I dont know who jumped on GOV PALIN.......REP BACHMAN MAY BE A STRONG CONSERVATIVE.....BUT SHE HAS MADE SOME STATMENTS THAT HAVE MADE PEOPLE WONDER........strong CONSERVATIVE in some circles is code for NON INCLUSIVE......you dont have to believe that..........some of those ideals leave out masses of people....what do you plan on doing with them ?????????? just wondering

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 12:13 AM
  • Who has gone after sarah palin? Um, have you been reading this blog? That's kind of the main topic.

    I hope the kkk documentary you watched made sure to mention that the rise of the so called invisible empire was led mostly by members of the democratic party.

    As for "strong conservative" being some sort of code for non inclusion, I wonder what you mean by that. I certainly resent any such inference, as I would imagine walter williams, j c watts, herman cain, alan west would probably also reject such an accusation. I think non inclusion might more apply to groups like la raza or the nation of islam or, no doubt, the kkk.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 6:55 AM
  • Does any one know what changes any of the candidates will do if they are elected? What will they do if they repeal Obamacare and how will they make it better? What will they do to make the economy better then it is now and how will they do it?

    These are just a couple questions I have had in the back of my mind and I didn't get them when they were debating... I have my doubt if they can improve everything that is troubling our country because they were elected ! This bothers me a lot because I don't see the economy changing just because we could have a new President. How will the new president fix the job problems we have now? Medicare? Medicaid ? The 2 wars? Gas Prices? How long will it take to make these changes? 1 yr, 2 yrs, 3 yrs, 4 yrs, 5 yrs, 6 yrs etc etc ??

    You talk about the candidates but do you really think everything is going to be so much better because Bachmann, or Cain, Romney and etc get into office ?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 7:48 AM
  • Zook do you think anyone of the candidates will do everything you listed? If so do you really believe because they are Republicans that mandates will disappear? Politicians will live under the same rule as we do? Will they give us one language? etc etc etc

    I am on Medicare and nothing has changed for me, so why hasn't it changed for me but has changed for others?

    You want us to drill for oil, do you think we are ready for it or is there going to be another disaster, lives lost?

    I want to know.......you can't just put it out there without explaining how all these "wants" of yours are going to change with a new Republican President?

    What illegals are getting an education from us and what illegals are getting welfare from us? Welfare is not so easy to get anymore, not like it was years ago.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 9:24 AM
  • homer

    it's not me expecting the Repubs to have all the answers, I am only drawing from what you and zook and others think will happen once we get a Republican President. I don't believe there will be much change at all.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 9:26 AM
  • HOMMER....LAST..... time i said I DID NOT MEAN TO SAY THAT....WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO?????????? I THINK A MISTAKE...... WHAT DO YOU THINK ?????????i dont care how many links you use HOMMER YOU ARE NOT PERFECT AND NEITHER AM I.Now I HAVE SAID THE SAME THING 3 times if you want to continue go right ahead.....im not you and im not going to continue on about it as if i cant be wrong.BUT I CHECKED SOME PLACES AND SHE HAS BEEN SNIDE ABOUT THE 1ST LADY....NOTHING ON THE CHILDREN THAT I COULD FIND.SO TYPE IN.......SARAH PALIN COMMENTS ON MICHELLE OBAMA...... AND YOU CAN READ OR LISTEN FOR YOURSELF......... I DIDNT SAY I NEVER SAID IT....... I SAID ..........I DIDNT MEAN TO SAY IT.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 9:54 AM
  • homer you don't need to lecture me, if you can answer my questions, then answer them.... I am aware that we have in the past drilled for oil and you danced around my question about drilling for oil ....I asked are we ready to drill for oil again? And homer do you really believe the Repubs are going to work a miracle on our economy? Where are the jobs going to come from ? When are they coming? Will a new Republican President bring back the housing market? If so how? Will the price of grocery's go back down because of a new president?

    Will everyone have medical so hospitals and Dr's don't have to write them off when the poor need medical care? Will we be out of Iraq and Afghanistan?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 10:34 AM
  • ZOOK......MISSOURIBIRDMAN.....BIRDMAN FIRST....I AM WELL AWARE OF THE KLAN and its origins,i am also aware that that includes modern day.I am also aware of the fact that they still are americas largest terroist organization. YOU CAN JOIN LA RAZA.nothing in there charter that i know about that says you cant.THE people you cite are are not JOE BLOW...that is were the issue is at.I can cite those kind of people GEN POWELL,LT GOV STEEL,AND OTHERS i am not talking about the exception i am talking about the rule.The thoughts of most minoritys is that the conservative movement (for lack of a better term)

    is exclusionary.The words that are bantered about so freely are excitatious to most.....ex; i want my country back.......from who?????? reverse discrimination........what the heck is that ??????

    is it ok if it exist at all(discrmination that is)

    I saw it in the military,promotion system that was exclusionary,when changed conservatives screamed......the idea that only conservatives can lead the way.....that in itself is exclusionary.

    ZOOK.......this has never been a one language country

    commanders are under orders from the civilian leaders...the military is the hammer of the politician....the countrys that give the military a free hand soon become dictatorships (history)

    there is but one flag......i want to see and hear the same distane for the confederate flag or any flag flying on a pole above the AMERICAN FLAG.

    THE gov got in our private lives when the conservatives and everybody else let them with the patriot act,never should have happened when libs fought gainst it you told us we were unpatriotic remember that????????

    with the world police came the world welfare......started in ww2 and never stoped just got bigger.....and we cant buy allies.

    freedom of choice what a can of worms that is.....we dont want to be told what to do but we wont voluntarily do the right thing........coupled with our professed moral values and we have a delemia,from abortion to death penalty to gay rights.

    I think a lot of things that we are all sensitive to now were in place for a long time but they didnt impact us as they do today.The result being we want something that was held up as real that was not real we thought it was.I say that because we swing from one extreme to the other....we got ridiculed comming home from NAMM.......we have hero worship going on today.........same kinda war different response. question is......is either appropriate...i dont have that answer.....i can say this....justice delayed is not justice at all.....that saying ,whoever said it, is appropriate.

    the gov could run very well when somone has the guts to unlayer it......no one party is going to do that....it will take both in congruence.....everybody got to much at stake.....WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE MOST

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 10:52 AM
  • This is why I think you were lecturing me

    "OK, so you have no faith in REAL change? I can understand why you'd feel that way, especially since that is exactly what the current administration ran on to get elected. But, MsM, we MUST change. Our very survival as a nation depends on it."

    Did you forget the bp oil disaster and we stopped drilling? So I say are we ready to start drilling again? There was a lot of destruction to wild life down there and a lot of clean up to be done... Are there new safety regulations in place?

    Health care not a right? So what do we do with our elderly who have already gone through their money and living in a nursing home. Who will pay that bill? It's ok for a young person with no insurance to have a Dr or hospital write it off?

    What about the homes right here that those in the Air Force bought and then got new orders? Don't you think it was hard for them to make that house payment and then move some where else and have to make a rent payment or another house payment?

    How will this administration get grocery costs down compared to how the republicans will do it?

    So the reason we have businesses closing here in Mountain Home is because they can't pay the taxes? Is that what your saying?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 11:28 AM
  • Let me start over and hope that I can remember my response. We had a T-Storm and it got zapped.

    My Uncle Frank and Aunt Rita used to keep a fly-swatter on hand to slap each other's dogs if they got irritated with each other.

    As appalling as that was to watch. It was even more distressing that the dogs knew what was coming and would try to hide under the table or a chair.

    We have got to quit slapping each others dogs. It isn't getting anything accomplished. The facts are that we love our dogs, but not neccessarily our neighbors dogs. The consensus should be that our country is in trouble and it will not get fixed by a politician.

    Instead, it is our own personal responsibility that matters in these issues. We must use our votes wisely on all things and people.

    In the 20's it seemed as though prosperity would last forever. As we all know it ended pretty abruptly on the 29th of Oct in 1929. One day you had champagne, furs & fancy cars and the next day people were jumping out of windows or selling apples on the street corner.

    Greed has overtaken not only our goverment but most of America too. It has created a cloud over us both financially and spiritually.

    The water in the bathtub is dirty, it is time to pull the plug and let it go down the drain. It will be the American People who can make a determination on how to fill the bathtub back up with clean water.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 12:20 PM
  • Me too.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 1:05 PM
  • Some one please answer my question Who are the illegals getting health care in our country? Please provide a link.........I am in the dark about this

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 1:11 PM
  • homer there are job openings in ND in the oil industry

    http://www.oil-rig-job.com/?G1

    I found a lot more jobs in the oil industry but don't have the time to list them all.

    If you type in north dakota oil jobs it will bring them up.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 1:17 PM
  • Lamont, first, I agree absolutely with you, and I think most tea party people would agree, the patriot act is one of the most egregious thefts of freedom ever shoved down the throats of americans. I've always wondered how that huge omnibus bill just happened to be waiting for an event that would see congress willing to pass it, and most acknowledged they never read the whole bill. Totally wrong, imho.

    If minorities feel the conservative movement is exclusionary, one would suggest that they look into it for themselves, not just swallow the koolaid from the left. The thing that really DRIVES the tea party is the desire to get the federal boot off the necks of all americans. Let us make our own decisions on how we live, within the social contract established by the founding documents.

    As far as the military promotion system, I will acknowledge I only served three years in the 1970s and most of the promotions I saw seemed too have more to do with butt kissing than anything else.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 2:42 PM
  • ONE OF MY KIDS is in n dokota right now.....HOMMER THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE TURNED TO THE DEMS IS.....THEY SIGNED THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION IN MODERN TIMES.....NO ONE PARTY HAS A MONOPLY ON IT.....JUST WHO WAS WERE WHEN......so when the conservatives do something that will swing opinion it will swing.....LINCOLN WAS A REPUB ...SO WAS IKE.ANd IT GOES ON.DEM TRUMAN,JOHNSON.BELIEF IN AND IDEAOLOGY YES HOMMER forget the lies because both sides lie all the time (WMD) remember i dont get into that and your attempt to belittle is again comming forth.Truth some might say is what fits your situation at the time.Every one seeks the truth and wisdom. In the political world it is who responds and you know that.

    Look at our school situation right here.some might say THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT RESPONSIVE,IF YOUR A HOME OWNER AND NO KIDS YOU WANT TO PAY LESS.GOT IT!!!!!!! If your renting and have kids your probally are saying, they dont care about the school board......that is situational and that is how we all live.SO to say that you have to see through lies would be more appropriate i think.

    Conservative frown on my marriage,abortion,equal access to schools and education,any (entitlement) that they dont sanction,even my retirement ck.I dont see how i would see them as inclusionary when those things go against my grain.BUT THEY TALK FREEDOM OF CHOICE ....who's choice.I think the laws ought to be enforced across the board not based on wether he/she is a corporate CEO.i dont think business should get a pass to pollute the water i drink or work children past 8 hrs for less than min wage.To me those are steps back not forward.When a cop stops you and says sir.....but stops me and says hey you......and someone says oh he was just having a bad day.......hello!!!!!!! OR the conservative says...whats the big deal or better yet......thats the way it is. I could go on but you already know these things.......so tell me and other minoritys when is that garbage going to stop and what is your plan to do that??....and these things need to take place as we continue to come out of this economic crisses.WE immortalize PRES. REAGAN DID HE NOT DO AND AMNESTY PROGRAM?????????? how about this......maybe he set the tone for why people think there will be another one

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 2:56 PM
  • Ok here's a scenario A guy has a job, and through his job he can get health insurance. He doesn't buy into it because he don't want that money taken out of his pay check each month... So he gets in a car accident and is seriously injured, who pays? And why should they pay? It's ok for a surgeon to write it off because he has a very big heart and everyone wants him for their Doctor? The hospitals won't mind paying his bill either because they don't have a budget?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:01 PM
  • I was trying to answer your statement referring to drilling oil

    "We've ALWAYS been ready and able to drill for oil. We've been STOPPED in doing so by environmentalists."

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:05 PM
  • Lamont, just for the record, if you read the history of the passage of LBJs civil rights bill, you will find that it was initially blocked in the house by southern democrats and when it got to the senate, a group of 18 democrats and one republican filibustered for more than 50 days. Hubert humphrey went to the republicans and they agreed to vote to end the filibuster. And then when the final vote came in both the house and senate, 80% of republicans supported the legislation while only about 64% of democrats did. So civil rights is not a democrat law, it was a very bi partisan effort.

    Abortion rights have at their base an anti minority stance. Read about margaret sanger, the founder of planned parenthood and her beliefs in the need to CONTROL the population of minorities. The information is out there.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:24 PM
  • I found this Zook Does this mean their getting a full ride or a benefit?

    WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court has rejected a challenge to a California policy that gives tuition breaks to illegal immigrants to attend public colleges and universities.

    The justices on Monday refused to review a California Supreme Court ruling that upheld a state law giving California high school graduates reduced tuition at state schools, regardless of their immigration status. The court did not comment on its action.

    The law's challengers say it conflicts with federal immigration law that prohibits post-secondary education aid to illegal immigrants.

    Eleven other states grant similar benefits to illegal immigrants. They are: Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Washington and Wisconsin.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:39 PM
  • Illegals aren't getting Medicaid in our state and if you know of any one there's a place for you to report any type of fraud including fraud done by others.

    http://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/Default.aspx?TabId=123

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:45 PM
  • USA

    Year -----Oil production ------ Rank

    2003------ 8,054,000 ------2

    2004------ 8,054,000---- 2

    2005------ 7,800,000----- 3

    2006------ 7,610,000------ 3

    2007----- 7,610,000------ 3

    2008----- 8,457,000------- 3

    2009----- 8,457,000------ 3

    2010----- 9,056,000------ 3

    2011---- 9,056,000 ----- 3

    Definition: This entry is the total oil produced in barrels per day (bbl/day). The discrepancy between the amount of oil produced and/or imported and the amount consumed and/or exported is due to the omission of stock changes, refinery gains, and other complicating factors.

    Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of March 11, 2010

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 3:58 PM
  • Well homer I haven't done research on which states give benefits to the illegals and which ones don't. However that link is good for any one to report the freeloaders that could be defrauding our State Government Report them !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 4:01 PM
  • ZOOK AND BIRDMAN ....I KNOW THE POINTS YOUR MAKING I AM NOT TRYING TO GIVE ANYONE A HISTORY LESSON POINT BY POINT JUST A SIMPLE OVERVIEW........I THINK I STATED NOBODY HAS A MONOPLY ON CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS AND IT IS ALL SITUATIONAL BASED ON TIME AND PLACE....NONE OF IT WAS REALLY NEEDED IF THE LAW HAD BEEN FOLLOWED FROM THE BEGINNING.......RIGHT!!!!!!!! MY POINT IS the conservative mantra does not come across as inclusive that is all im saying.......when it does there will be a change.

    BELIEVE IT OR NOT I PERSONALLY DONT CONSIDER THE CONFEDERATE FLAG RACIST IN OF ITSELF........I DO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE WHO FLY IT UNDER THE GUISE OF THE CONFEDERACY TO BE.the flag is part of our history,it is the actions taken in the name of that get's me......so we are back to signs and symbols.they mean different things to different people.

    STATES RIGHTS....OH BOY....YES we are seeing it again and if anyone thinks that what is going on in some of them is what our country is about PLEASE look again.A slave is a slave and we are creating new ones,and we are taking away rights and insuring that only the rich shall rise, if you are middle class you are in trouble.BE carefull what you wish for.I would not be surprised to see some form of poll taxe instituted............yes according to the book the flag could be flown upside down right now.......so do it.be intresting to see how many people ask why,OR DID YOU MAKE A MISTAKE WHEN YOU PUT IT UP...........SMILE ......GOT TO GO

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 5:03 PM
  • Thanks mtn homer. I'm sure I only hit the save key once, and if there's a way to delete the duplicate, I'd surely do it. I probably just fat fingered it a I'm doing all these from my droid x phone.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 5:06 PM
  • The chart shows we are producing more oil then we have in the past..........AND that's a start isn't it?

    BTW speaking of Hubert Humphrey when I was a kid I used to attend the same family picnic's he did on a lake in Minnesota

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 5:24 PM
  • Lamont, you are absolutely right about what's being done to what's left of the middle class. Why wouldn't they try a poll tax, they're trying to tax the very air we breathe with carbon taxes. I think the pelosis and reids in the federal system have used so called entitlement programs to create a form of slavery, or certainly serfdom among the poorer classes, they trade handouts for votes. It creates a socialistic "SOFT TYRRANY"

    To a degree, lamont, I think the tea partiers want to restore the concept of economically a "rising tide lifts all boats" (quoting jfk) where it appears the left wants to sink america down to the level of the third world so we all would be EQUAL, equally broke and beholden to the government.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 5:26 PM
  • BIRD.....I DONT DISAGREE the problem as I SEE IT IS HOW THAT COMES ACROSS.....And it comes across as....... if you have you are ok .....if you dont that's tough. YES you work hard to get what you have and most of us do....but to assume that you will always be up there and not need MAYBE a hand at some time is wrong.....I dont like WELFARE it is DESTRUCTIVE BUT i ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS NEEDED AND I THINK SOME FOLKS HAVE TURNED TO IT THAT NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD.........that does have a good point......UNDERSTANDING.....which could lead to a better system.

    I would like to see a society that insures equal access,so that everyone can reach there highest potential,one that protects it's people and not just at the borders.heed the lessons we have learned and move forward bringing all of us with it.A gov that thinks of the country first,and that country is its people you and me.Get out of this mode of WAR first....ENOUGH.

    I dont think anyone wants the country broke i think we have to look at the whole picture.I also think BOTH party's played a role in where we are at and both together should fixe it instead of the blame game.....which has got us nothing.I dont mind HEALTHCARE...I DO MIND FORGIEN AID TO SAY GERMANY,FRANCE,SPAIN,ETC .......WHY??????

    WE are scapegoating all over the place and that needs to stop.......you know why?????? WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE STOPED THIS MESS A LONG TIME AGO........WELL THAT IS MY THOUGHTS......

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 6:12 PM
  • Lamont, in an earlier post, you referred to the tea party slogan of taking our country back, and you asked "from who?" Well, sir, I think in your last post, the desires you have for this nation show that you have more in common with the tea party than you have not in common. When you get past the lies and smearing done by those who see their power base slipping away, and get to the truth, you'll find no hate, no exclusion of any race, you'll find small business owners, you'll find blue collars, white collars, soccer moms, unemployed, underemployed, AMERICANS.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 6:57 PM
  • SOFT TYRANNY.......I DONT THINK THAT REID OR PELOSI ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF TRADING ENTITLEMENTS FOR VOTES ANY MORE THAN I SEE EXCLUSION AS A MEANS OF SERFDOM AND SLAVERY THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME,WETHER YOU CALL FOR OR INSURE THAT EXCLUSION IT ALSO IS A PATH TO SERFDOM AND SLAVERY.EXCLUSION ALSO DRAWS VOTES FROM A CERTAIN SECTOR.WE cannot endorse one and denergrate the other,but that is called poletics.

    I have seen this I have lived it.....did it stop me or my family NO. will it stop people yes.The shame is that a lot of whites thaught they were immune to this and now there finding they are not......it adds to there anger and disappointment....and that pot boils even hotter.IT comes down to as long as it is not happening to you.Those disenfrachised workers in WIS. are really angry and rightly so in my opinion.........NO IM NOT TAKING SIDES JUST A THOUGHT ABOUT SOFT TRYANNY.....HAVE A GOOD ONE...I ENJOYED THE CHAT....

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jun 16, 2011, at 7:27 PM
  • ZOOK ....I know the history on the flags my problem is as stated what is done in the name of.

    As far as the layoff go no problem but the white community has not been underattack in the jobs market like this before.YOU STATED THE PROBLEM LAST HIRED FIRST FIRED..that is the catch 22 for minoritys. Do you remember somone here implying that promotions were unfair because people got promoted who didnt work as hard as?????? I do,it was funny to me because there was no complaining when promotion were given out by who you went fishing with.3 parts to promotion apr,skt.pfe up to master. then the boards got into it again.

    I WILL DISAGREE ABOUT ACCESS BECAUSE INSTEAD CLOSING THE DOOR WE CLOSE OFF THERE MINDS.

    IN MOST SCHOOLS IN MINORITY NEIGHBOR HOODS THE KIDS ARE WAREHOUSED NOT TAUGHT.There are exceptions,some of that is the parents fault,some the system,and a heck of a lot of learned behavior on everyones part.America needs all its minds not just some.I could go on forever on that subject.

    i was teasing you about the flag in a serious sort of way.Most people know nothing of it.YES more died in the civil war than any other,the problem is that slavery was the linch pin of the souths economic health and rather than obey the law they went about undermining it to insure serfdom,slavery continued to exist.tHE FACT THAT WE TURNED A BLIND EYE TO IT IS WHAT MADE IT SO INSIDEOUS,You know we did the same to the jews in ww2....Im not bitter ,BUT i do know what happened so when someone like GOV BARBOUR SAYS IT WASNT THAT BAD IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL...you dont lynch and shot the soldiers who defend your country because of the color of there skin.

    THE TEA PARTY HAS ITS PLACE,BUT LIKE I SAID IT COMES OFF AS EXCLUSIONARY,AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME ATTITUDES AS DISPLAYED RIGHT HERE AS HOLLIER THAN THOU AND KNOW IT ALL,MY WAY OR THE HIWAY,I DONT WANT TO BE AROUND PEOPLE LIKE THAT,YOU CANT TELL ME IN ONE BREATH HOW MUCH YOU LOVE AMERICA AND THEN IN ANOTHER HOW YOU DESPISE A GROUP THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NOT IN CONGRUENCE....

    ANYHOW LOOKS LIKE A GREAT DAY FORTHCOMMING...got a visiter comming she played basketball for me great person she retired a chief like a daughter to me im getting excited about seeing her....makes you feel good when you mentor and live to see it come to fruition ,FUNNY i was wondering if her hair was still flaming red well we shall see......latter

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 10:01 AM
  • I have a 2 fold question for you guys And you don't need to beat me up over it.

    I am only curious and I have no hidden agenda in asking it.

    Why do people fly Confederate flags today? What is the purpose ? the war between the states have been over now for a very long time...

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 10:36 AM
  • Lamont, public schools are another great example of being part of "taking our country back" you speak of them being warehouses and I agree, there is so much difference between school districts in different cities or states or even different areas within a single city. The tea party folks mostly favor using a voucher system for schools. This would give concerned parents the chance to get the BEST education for their kids and would force lazy school districts to get better or get gone. I'm telling you, you have a lot in common with the tea partiers. The only exclusion I see is you excluding yourself, because I'm sure you would be welcome, I know you would here.

    -- Posted by MissouriBirdman on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 11:34 AM
  • HOMMER.....I STATED WHAT HAPPENS YOU DONT LIKE THAT TOUGH,IT WAS NOT MEANT TO RAISE A RACIAL ISSUE BUT AS AND EXAMPLE OF TREATMENT THAT WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT DOES EXIST TODAY.YOU THINK O BAMA BEING ELECTED CHANGED ANYTHING YOU ARE WRONG.

    I WAS IN THE MILITARY WHEN PROMOTIONS WERE NOT ALL BASED ON YOUR PERFORMANCE,WHEN TESTING CAME IN IT WAS A SALVATION. I WENT THROUGH THAT WITH YOU BEFORE I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE RACISM DIE BUT YOU HOMMER ARE THE EMBODMENT OF IT AND YOU DONT EVEN SEE IT.

    YOU DONT LIKE WHAT I SAID ABOUT CONSERVATIVES IM NOT STEROTYPING I AM SAYING HOW IT COMES OFF.I know conservatives who dont come off like you .I have one in my band and we get along just fine and have for years and we discuss everything.I told you once i will tell you for the last time ......... DO NOT EVER BRING MY CHILDREN INTO THIS BLOG....YOU DONT KNOW ME....YOU WANT TO TALK OF CHILDREN TALK ABOUT YOUR OWN.

    I should hope they use my friend as and example of a conservative,one that respects them and there heritage,one that doesnt talk down and attempts to degrade,one that doesnt see them as anything but AMERICANS.We in all our multi cultural diversity are what AMERICA is.

    LAST....HOMMER you have a problem every time someone questions what YOU FEEL IS THE WAY IT IS.......YOU have never walked my path so dont try to tell me what i should think or do.I act and react based on my frame of refernce the difference is I try to understand YOURS ,YOU DONT TRY TO UNDERSTAND MINE....... ARE you saying I cant be prejudiced or that I shouldnt be?????? BECAUSE IF YOU ARE THAT IS THE MOST UNREALISTIC THING IV HEARD IN A LONG TIME....YOU SEE IT IS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT BECAUSE WE ALL ARE....

    THAT IS WHY YOU DONT COMMENT ON CERTAIN BLOGS .......LIKE.... WE HAVE HAVE GOTTA TO BE BETER THAN THAT, YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY DO YOU????????? go away hommer and live in a world of your design.......and speak for youself

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 1:47 PM
  • Lamont:

    My brother was in the Navy in the 70's. He trained for a certain position and when an opening came up, they had two people. They flipped a coin and he lost the coin toss. So he became a cook instead. He wasn't happy about it and it wasn't fair, but he went on to do the best job that he could.

    We can't always make things fair and right. It should be that way, but it isn't. David and I are very conservative. Not all of our family is of the same mind. they have some spirited debates but they all love and respect each other.

    I will tell you something that most people aren't aware of that the Tea Party has been accused of. One of our senators who happens to be African-American claimed to have been spit on. He wasn't. they proved this through several sources and he had to back down from that statement.

    Living in the area and knowing of this person for many years as a mayor and congressmen, I know this to be true. He represents our district. I wrote him an e-mail expressing my concerns about the healthcare bill. What I received was a standard reply that was given to all of us who wrote in and quite frankly didn't even fit the subject matter that was presented to him.

    Busy or not, Our representatives in Government need to make themselves available to us and not only when they are campaigning.

    People are people no matter what color, race or creed. You have good ones and mean ones. It is always the mean ones who seem to get the attention while really good people are just keeping their heads and going about their business.

    I don't know where you grew up or what type of adversity that you faced. I know that I had very difficult time going from being a country girl to a city one. Especially being divorced with two small children and no job skills.

    My dad used to stress to us that you have to take people as they are. He would have been the first one to shake your hand in any situation. His mind-set was that even if life was not fair, it was his personal responsibility to be a kind and compassionate person to all.

    Most people do not spit on each other or call each other filthy names. Most of us work with others who have different politics, religions or lifestyles.

    We cannot take (1) or two bad apples and proclaim that the all the rest of the apples have been spoiled too.

    What I learned in HS about some of the people who bothered me, was to find someone who loved them dearly and talk to them to get a better understanding of their personality. It changed my entire attitude towards one of my teachers who always seemed stiff and cold. I still nearly flunked Algerbra.

    I think that Herman Cain has said it best when he said the reason he was running for President was because his grandchildren deserved a better future too.

    We all want something better for our children and grandchildren. Sometimes we just have to leave the past behind and build a new bridge of understanding with new experiences and memories.

    I hope that you have a blessed Father's Day.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 2:20 PM
  • KH GAL.....THANKYOU.....

    i am not arguing with what you say,other than a frame of reference which i share as and attempt to foster understanding i dont live in the past.ill say it again i have very good conservative friends and we discuss the same subjects we do here,they like you do not attempt to talk down,or start a sentence with and insult.When i make a comparison they counter constuctivly.EXAMPLE....we talked about the difference in pay of a black MBA and that of his/her white counterpart...we went on to try and breakdown why....everyone got something out of it.......here i get that doesnt happen anymore.and an insult on top of it.

    I will not apologize for any REP.i get stock letters all the time....keep writting that's what i do.....and sometime the local paper saying what kind of answer you got,that usually gets a response.What bothers me most is we can usually find something bad to say about a minority,when do we say something good???????

    my ENTIRE FAMILY HAS WORKED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS SOCIETY,FROM MOTHER ON DOWN borough council,city council,medicare advocate you name it,I probally gave away a promotion to do what i did in the military for 13 yrs i too have made the sacrifice's I HAD A PERSON TELL ME RIGHT IN THIS TOWN WERE I LIVE THAT ....IT WAS A WHITE MANS TOWN AND WHO DID I THINK I WAS OWNING WHAT I OWNED I SHOULD MOVE ON...I AM STILL HERE and i like most of the people here.IF you or anyone seek a different side or even if you dont there is one i will voice it....WE LEARN FROM THE PAST TO MAKE A BETTER FUTURE.........and if stating that the rate of unemployment is higher than most whites are accustomed to and contributes to there anger is racist so be it.....the unemployment for black college graduates has been consistantly higher than the national average and unemployment in black communities is doublke the national avg. that was all i was saying .If someone wants to trake that out of context oh well

    KH GAL I DONT CARE IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE are you human???????? that is all that counts to me.AND I COULD BE ONE ALSO I HAVE SOME VERY CONSERVATIVE STANDS.....MOST OF ALL I AM ME.....YOU HAVE A WONDERFULL DAY

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 3:21 PM
  • New Hampshire has a motto "live free or die" I have always liked that motto !

    Learning a second language isn't a bad Idea. You can get jobs that pay very well if you can speak another language. Just think about a job speaking another language at one of the Airports in NYC or Washington D C. Right here in town they sometimes need a Spanish interpreter when they are making an arrest.

    I bet when you were in Viet Nam you spoke a little Vietnamese

    Over in Europe they start teaching other languages in elementary schools which we should be doing here.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 9:30 PM
  • HHEY I DIDNT SAY THEY WERE EXCLUSIONARY....I SAID THEY COME OFF THAT WAY.......THAT IS THE PERCEPTION.........ARE YOU GUYS PARONOID ???? ME I MAKE MYSELF COMFORTABLE WERE EVER. Again just giving you another view that is all.Zook you know how i am if I THOUGHT YOU WERE EXCLUSIONARY I would say so.

    As tea partyers you present another view,as a person i do the same. What is the problem??????I can disagree and i do sometime and i do it respectfully,with a why i disagree.

    FOR the most part I dont have a problem with what you say.I just want the anger directed at all the players not just some,that hits me wrong.example ......O'RIELLY called for REP VITTER to resign. WHAT TOOK SO LONG HE WANTED REP WEINER HEAD LIKE RIGHT NOW......I WANTED BOTH OF THEM GONE FROM DAY ONE AND SAID SO.i AM NOT IN THE FAVORED SON BUSINESS.Called for PRES CLINTONS HEAD ALSO.

    I SAID O BOMA getting elected proved nothing.AND I MEANT IT.I DO NOT LIKE MULTILINGUAL FOR AMERICA TO FUNCTION,HOWEVER THIS IS A NEW WORLD THAT IS CONSIDERABLY SMALLER.more than one language in a country is commonplace and we will not succed on the international playing field unless we become multi lingual.With that said official business should be conducted in english in AMERICA.IT has been my exsperience that it is not in our best interest to assume the WORLD should learn english.OTHER COUNTRIES also consider there language part of there soverienty.SO my thing is when in rome do as the romans do.........when in japan i learned to speak japanese,in thailand learned thai,in germany didnt want to be there but i learned to converse in german.So i hope that clearifys.THERE we go with the qualification thing and it will get worse.

    YOU know i cared less about that person then with his comment and I care even less now,but understand that kind of thing taints the rest of the people.You see you have to wonder if there comment is indigative of the community.but i will tell you this it was not that long ago.

    believe it or not affirmative action was not a quota system zook IT was manipulated by the people who had to implement it and didnt want to remind me I WILL TELL YOU HOW IT WAS SOPPOSED TO WORK ANYHOW ENOUGH FOR NOW WILL SEE YOU LATER

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jun 17, 2011, at 9:56 PM
  • HOMMER you speak and you start with and insult. I DONT CARE THAT YOU GOT MAD ABOUT MY STATEMENT WHICH BASICALLY SAID HOW CONSERVATIVES COME OFF. YOU DIDNT HAVE A PROBLEM TELLING ME HOW YOU DETESTED LIBERALS DID YOU? THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED RIGHT? WHY ? BECAUSE YOU SAID IT? AND YES YOU DIRECTED IT AT ME YOU LIBERALS REMEMBER. I DID NOT DIRECT THAT STATMENT AT YOU. YOU SEE HOMMER YOU CAN DISH IT OUT BUT YOU SURE GET UPSET WHEN SOMONE SAYS SOMETHING that you dont like. i told you once and i meant it talk about your own children do not bring mine in,you dont have that right and that is what i meant by you dont know me.i never mention your children and never will i dont have that right.and wether you think you did or didnt bring them in matters not..... I DO.I CAN BRING UP RACE JUST AS YOU CARE TO IGNORE THAT IT IS A FACTOR.....SOMWHERE SOMEHOW YOU MUST THINK THAT THE THINGS I SAY ARE LIES WELL SORRY THEY ARE NOT THEY ARE REAL AND THEY DO HAPPEN DAILY.YOU WANT ME TO SAY OH IT'S OK.... IT IS NOT OK.

    YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HOMMER YOU NEVER ASKED.....and like you said you dont care that is fine but how dare you try to marginalize the trials of being accepted as and EQUAL AMERICAN.....you dont face my world daily,hurtfull,spitefull enuendos,the degradation played out on telivision,the garbage you say to me the insults.do you remember them all HOMMER??? HIT DOG? STUPID,MORON,TO NAME A FEW.WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??????? YOU HAVE A VERY CONDENSENDING WAY,AND SPECIAL WORDS YOU USE AND DIRECT AT ME....IF YOU KNOW IT THEN YOU ARE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.IF YOU DONT WHICH I DOUGHT THEN YOU ARE NOT AS SMART AS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO THINK.YOU HAVE SEEN THE ANTICS OF JACKSON AND SHARPTON AND do they speak for all blacks????? NO!!!!!!!@! when are you going to see things in context.i think most others here took what i said for what it was constructuve critcism........except you. poor HOMMER he said something about my tea party. I dont bow to the alter of HOMMER....try to remember that.DENSE... who are you talking to ??????? What makes you think you can talk to people like that??????? look in the mirror and use that word to YOURSELF.

    while i am at it you know what i am sick of HOMMER PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO FIND EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO CRITECIZE....QUESTION WHY DIDNT YOU USE EXAMPLES LIKE,IRISH AMERICAN,POLISH AMERICAN,ETC THEY USE THOSE TERMS WHY DIDNT YOU USE THOSE EXAMPLES ??????? or is that different,and ok.YOU asked the question why dont you do your famous research and FACT finding and get the answer.

    PROJECTION HOMMER you are trying to tell me about me.I dont know you hommer and I dont want to know you......and remember YOU are the one trying to tell me, who you dont know, what i am all about and what i should be about.You passed judgement on me way back, so that projection doesnt get it.I have never acted like I KNEW ABOUT YOU,YOU HAVE PLAYED JUDGE ,JURY AND EXECUTIONER..I TOLD YOU BEFORE I WAS NOT HERE FOR A WAR BUT I DONT RUN,AND I CAN HOLD MY OWN.YOU HAVE RUN OFF SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAD SOMETHING TO SAY,WITH YOUR SNIDE REMARKS. YOU PLAY THAT GAME WITH ME I WILL COME BACK AT YOU.I TOLD YOU THE OTHER DAY YOU WERE DOING IT AGAIN, YOU IGNORED THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

    LASTLY .......I AM AND AMERICAN MAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU REMIND ME THAT I AM BLACK .WHEN I WAS TEACHING I ADVOCATED THAT EVERYONE SHOULD GET RID OF THE HERITAGE IDENTITY,BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT FIRST GENERATION BORN YOU ARE AND AMERICAN,SEE HOMMER I BELIEVE THAT AMERICANS ARE A RACE ON TO THEMSELFES,BECAUSE INTERGRATION AFTER DARK HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE WE ALL GOT HERE....ASK THE NATIVE AMERICANS.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 12:33 AM
  • THE HYPEN IS DEFINETLY DIVISIVE..........i have never liked it,,,probally why Idont use it doesnt seem natrural to me.

    for the record i dont think anyone DEMANDED black history week....i would have to check.THIS i do know at one time there was a movement to bring forth the contributions in a realistiic light that blacks had made to america.That came from the fact that all our history books talked about was slavery in depth,there is so much more than that people did not know about.IT was felt that highlighting those things during that week would give a more positive image.In my opinion it has accomplished most of what it set out to do however,most people dont know why it was created therefore the resentment.Look at it this way the history books were written by whites in a multicultural society first impulse ie to make yourself look good.That is not a knock on the writters it is human nature.example ask the average kid....who WERE the 9th and 10 th cav. they couldnt tell you..... or who was the 99th pursuit sq,WHO WAS MARION ANDERSON I could go on i hope you get the point....dont want to give a history lesson.

    THE past for me is a refernce point, i too being a cancer survivor take it one day at a time,but i do look forward all the time.MY children are prepared for today,and i am making sure my grands are getting the tools to cope with and uncertain future.THIS UNITED NATION WE CALL A FAMILY IS SO DIVERSE A FIGHT IS LIKE WW3 IN A MICROCOSM. ANYHOW ZOOK GOT TO RUN.......SEE YA LATTER

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 9:14 AM
  • HOMMER ........DONT YOU GET TIRED OF NAME CALLING?????????IF YOU ARE THE TORCH BEARER OF THE TEA PARTY THEN MY COMMENT ABOUT "COMES OF AS BEING EXCLUSIONARY"IS CORRECT.

    I dont have to justify that race playes a part in things in this country......you just did it for me.THANKYOU.I didnt say you stated anythging I said that you have used certain language ,and enuendos to me and to me only and that is a fact.I am glad you are mad HOMMER.YOU MISINTERPRETED WHAT WAS SAID AND YOU CANT BACK OFF.INSTEAD OF MAKING YOURSELF LOOK STUPID WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY.......we might come off that way but that is not what we are. But no we are off on a HOMMER tear about understand conservatives....and your doing it in such a destructive way its pathetic.IF i ever entertain being part of the tea party as long as people like you are part of it i can do without.LIKE I SAID WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE????????? TELL US HOMMER..............NO BODY KNOWS THE TROUBLE I SEEN.......hm!!!!!!!!!!!! WOULD YOU CALL THAT RACE BAITING HOMMER ?????????? I WOULD AND SO WOULD MOST PEOPLE......I AM AND AMERICAN HOMMER AS MUCH OR MORE THAN YOU ARE.......I RESPECT PEOPLE ALL PEOPLE.I DONT RACE BAIT,I DONT NAME CALL,I DONT INSULT,FOR INSULT SAKE,I DONT QUESTION PEOPLES INTEGRITY,BEYOND THAT I RISKED IT ALL FOR MY COUNTRY WHILE YOU SAT AT HOME AND TOLD THE WORLD HOW RIGHTOUS YOU WERE BEING A CONSERVATIVE WHO DOESNT EVEN LIVE UP TO ITS PRINCIPALS......GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER HOMMER COME OUT WHEN YOU LEARN HOW TO BE AND AMERICAN.And the next time you want to race bait go stand on a corner and rap yourself in a sheet.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 10:19 AM
  • YES i have and it makes you wonder what are they teaching ??????? That is part of the reason they cant move forward they dont have a reference point from which to start.Most could no more pass a government exam than the man in the moon.HAD A GREAT THING HAPPEN TODAY.....MY GRANDAUGHTER WENT BACK TO READING REAL BOOKS.....SHE SAID READING A KINDLE WAS NOT THE REAL THING........YEAH.....IM GETTING THROUGH.....KINDA COOL HUH???????? SEE YA..............

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 4:49 PM
  • I have seen that on the leno show and I think its a put on.... Their trying to be funny !

    I bought that kindle a couple months ago and haven't even tried it out yet. Still reading real books..

    Have any of you heard of the book "John Brown's Body"? I got a real old copy of it and plan on getting to it one of these days...

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Jun 18, 2011, at 6:01 PM
  • The kindle is an electronic device

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HFS6Z0/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=7570771391&ref=pd_sl...

    It's sleek and light weight and you down load books on it. I got it so I can download knitting patterns on it and it will be easier to read because I can make the words larger and I won't loose my place.

    I haven't used mine yet because I am trying to get caught up on books I'm still reading and patterns I'm still working on. Sometimes I have more then one knitting project at the same time. lol !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 8:43 AM
  • HOMMER HOMMER HOMMER.......I said the the conservatives COME OFF AS EXCLUSINAry......and you go off like a child because you dont see it that way,your in the inside looking out how would you know????????? but you see hommer you did exactly what i was saying.....your a fool HOMMER A POOR PATHETIC FOOL.....LOGICAL QUESTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN......WHY DO YOU SAY THAT????? other people got it why not you??????????

    You think by calling people names that you can laud over them ,you call them names because you do think your better than them .Is that the conservative way??? I DONT THINK SO,.... WOULD YOU USE THE SAME TERMINOLOGY ABOUT REV BILLIE GRAHAM OR HIS SON ???????? are you speaking for the TEA party HOMMER ???????? BECAUSE IF YOU ARE I HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD MY STANCES FOR THE MOST PART ARE IN CONGRUENCE WITH THERES.. SO WHO ARE YOU????????? you are what I said HOMMER A race baiter who trys to project that on the person who catches you so you can say i didnt do anything.Your the bully who gets caught and then whines.......like a.......standing on the corner doing what you do best would at least be honest HOMMER...BUT YOU DONT HAVE THE GUTS....WHATS WRONG WITH THE BACK OF THE BUS???????? iT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR BLACKS FOR YEARS...ILL BET YOU DIDNT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT....AND STILL DONT.SLAP ME DOWN ??????? you need to save that for your self im not your child,i slap back,BUCKO is that another subconconcious projection?????????? " you dont ever tell me what to do" ILL tell you this that comes off so pathetic that if you realized how pathetic you wouldnt have said it......you make me laugh....really. YOU CALLED FOR HELP SEVERAL TIMES DURING YOUR TIRADE NON CAME HOMMER NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ????????? do you honestly think that if race is not reallisticlly talked about or considered in this country the problem will just go away???????? IF you do you are the fool.SO CONTINUE YOUR NAME CALLING,TIRADES ,INSULTS,AND RACE BAITING AND SEE WERE IT GETS YOU.......IF I WERE A TEA PARTIER YOU WOULD BE AND EMBARASSMENT ,MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY DIDNT COME TO YOUR AID ???????????????? HOMMER YOU SHOWED THE BLOG WORLD WHAT YOUR ALL ABOUT.....TO LATE CANT TAKE IT BACK...............I AM WHAT I AM HOMMER AND I DONT TRY TO HIDE.....AND IM NOT PERFECT,SO I MAKE MISTAKES......BUT WITH YOU NO MISTAKE.........YOUR HERO IS PROBALLY MR DUKE HE DOES THE SAME THING.....BUT YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT..........NOTICE I DIDNT CALL MR DUKE ANY NAMES..........TRY IT SOMETIME

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 11:15 AM
  • HOMMER I MIGHT BE THE ONLY BLACK ON THIS BLOG....I DONT KNOW AND DONT REALLY CARE......WOULD SEEM TO ME .....YOU DONT KNOW THE ANSWERS.......ASK THE QUESTIONS.......BEATS ASSUMPTIONS....UNLESS YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL............QUESTIONS, NOT NAME CALL THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 11:40 AM
  • Yeah walmart has them only made by different companys. One is called the nook and the other one I can't think of what is called.

    BTW "Johns Brown Body" is a poem and it was written way back in the 20's

    I'm going to try and read it but I'm not good with poems. lol !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 1:53 PM
  • THAT the best you can do??????????? you revert to a defense that doesnt whole water in the whole scheme of things.....but it is ok maybe CJW will come to your defense.WHY I DONT KNOW.....?

    You dont like name calling when you are the brunt of it do you.??????????? Ignorant black man.....homeer i would rather be that than be you,THE DIGNITY I have so far outstripes you that there is no comparison.I have one of those peices of paper.DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING youv got one and you are still ignorant about common decency,DONT LIKE YOUR NAME SPELLED THE WAY I SPELL IT........TOUGH...You should have thought about that when you did it to me, you should have thought about the name callig when you started that also.DONT CRY ABOUT WHAT YOU INTIATED.......YOU SEEM TO BE THE ONE WHO GETS EXCITED ABOUT MY COLOR. I ONLY USE TO EXPLORE ANOTHER SIDE....YOU WANT TO SAY THAT I USE IT TO THROW SOMETHING IN YOUR FACE.... ( your paronoia)WELL THAT IS NOT WHAT IS MEANT TO HAPPEN. BUT IF YOU TAKE IT THAT WAY.... TOUGH..... IT IS PART OF THE EQUATION.........AND IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.........THIS IS NOT A WHITE ONLY WORLD,GET USE TO IT.

    IF YOU are the POSTER BOY for the CONSERVATIVE movement,they have a PROBLEM.I dont need your permission to do anything ,save it.

    I also dont need a grammar lesson from you or anyone else......SO again the defense of I AM BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE........ only shows your arrogance........YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO HIDE......THE THINGS I POINT OUT COME RIGHT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.......IT DONT GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT...................WHINE WHINE WHINE........HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA......PUT AWAY YOUR SHOVEL HOMMER........YOU may be able to bully others here,BUT NOT ME !!!!!!!!!! I know about people LIKE YOU and have had plenty of practice dealing with them ALL MY LIFE.......

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 6:58 PM
  • YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE !!!!!!!!!!!!

    YOUR STILL NAME CALLING........SO NOTHING CHANGED

    I DONT NEED YOUR PERMISSION OR CONSENT

    YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG SO ADMITE IT AND GO AWAY

    WASTE OF TIME THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?????????

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jun 19, 2011, at 9:16 PM
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