The Two Faces of America

Posted Tuesday, May 24, 2011, at 9:55 AM
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  • Sorry, I fogot to say the most important thing. God Bless America. We surely don't deserve it, but some of us are on our knees praying for everyone.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 11:10 AM
  • WE have been through all of this already except for area 51.I assume that you feel that everything in terms of weapon sys. should be made public.I would have to disagree,the technology edge we now hold would be severly compromised.,Area 51 has done some very outstanding things to include the helo's that got BEN LADEN,to include the B-2,117 A,and the F-22,THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE F-111A AND THE F-14.I am going to suggest to you that you talk to some people that have worked there.

    Technology is our force multplier,we dont need to level the playing field by letting anyone know what we are developing.THAT IS MY OPINION.

    I WILL NOT SUBSCRIBE TO SEDITION OR TREASON BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE PARTY IN CHARGE OR THE PRESIDENT.I DONT KNOW WHY THERE IS A THOUGHT THAT ONLY ONE SIDE CAN GOVERN,NOT TRUE.GOVERNENCE REQUIRES COMPROMISE FROM BOTH SIDES .WITHOUT COOPERATION THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT LOOSE IS US.

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 11:52 AM
  • HOPE IT WARMS UP IM SOPPOSED TO BE OUTSIDE TONIGHT.THE SOCKEYE PATIO IS USUALLY WARM BUT YOU NEVER KNOW......SEE YA

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 11:54 AM
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    Good blog, Mike

    I stand for America. And I'm scared of where it's going.

    I am working a double job now, though I love it. I wouldn't get by without it. So yes, I agree with so much of what you said.

    Jessie

    -- Posted by jessiemiller on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 12:09 PM
  • I posted something and it got deleted, which is my fault. I hope that I can remember everything that I said.

    First of all DO Not Apologize for anything Bazooka Man. You hit it dead on.

    WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST! If you are mad, shout it out the window like that movie Network. (this is where I got into trouble).

    Budget Cuts and Taxes.

    Our politicians don't get anything accomplished except for running for office. If we took all of the funds that they raise for their campaigns, we could easily whittle down the national debt.

    If we taxed celebrites for not having more sense than God Gave A Goose, we could whittle the debt down even more and keep our entitlement programs.

    If we refused medical care and other programs to illegal aliens, our elderly would continue to get the medical care and retirment income that they are entitled to.

    And lastly, if you really want to pay extra taxes to the goverment, we can supply you an option on your income taxes to write in the amount extra that you want to pay and please be sure that you include my share of the taxes.

    And then I posted the other reply listed above, which does not make sense unless you read this first.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 12:17 PM
  • I've been hearing the same arguments by one side or the other for over 60 years. Thats what democracy is all about,you can speak your mind any time and pretty much any way you desire.I may not agree with you but I much prefer this to most of histories alturnitives.(Hitler ran a tight ship IF you were a member of the party.)Keep commenting,I'll keep reading and pray that we both retain the right to do so.

    -- Posted by Happy Haven on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 3:18 PM
  • HE doesnt need a break,he needs something besides bad mouthing every and anything.ILL SAYT IT AGAIN ARIZONA WAS VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND.ISNT HE SWORN TO UPHOLD IT ?????????? I am not for illegal immergration and it is but one problem and certainly doesnt deserve to be at the top of the list in my book.Maybe some folks here ought to find out who are the people who get most of these services we feel we are being denied.I think you would be surprised.I am not saying illegals should get any services because I SAY NO.

    i also say deport to country of origin for a reason......they are not all from mexico.

    I hope some one has a magic wand because that is what it will take to straighten out this mess in everyones time frame....we did not get here in four years what makes anyone think it can be fixed in 2.We dismantled half the country in the name of profits well you got it for awhile why not sell the rest so you can have more for a brief while again??????????.Wall st is up to its old tricks again and because someone is making money we havnt said a word......why ???????????? DIDNT I HEAR WE WILL CREATE JOBS........WHEN ????????????????? MAYBE EVRYONE IS FINDING OUT.....TALK IS CHEAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 3:52 PM
  • To let you know how bad this country has become, the mexicans are thinking about moving back home

    -- Posted by grammaidaho on Tue, May 24, 2011, at 8:31 PM
  • HITLER ?????????????? THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST SEDITIOUS BLOG I HAVE SEEN.............POINT !!!!!

    AMERICA.......INTERNED THE JAPENESE AMERICAN...THE GERMAN AMERICAN RAN FREE ....AND OPENLY SUPPORTED HITLER...GERMANS WERE CAUGHT AS SPIES....NO JAPENESE AMERICAN WAS..........HITLER COMMITTED GENOCIDE.....GERMAN AMERICANS WERE COMPLACENT..........THE FORGIEN POLICY AS STATED HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE 1967 WAR....NETENYAHUE DID NOT DENY,IT HE SAID IT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE.....THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.THERE IMMERGRATION POLICY WAS AS YOU STATED, HOWEVER IF YOU DONT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE PASSPORTS AND NO COUNTRY WILL ACCEPPT THE PEOPLE THEN WHAT ?......WE WOULDNT LET THERE SHIP DOCK....SO IF WE ARE GOING TO STATE THINGS AS FACT THEN HOW ABOUT WE CK IT OUT FIRST.....ALSO AMERICAN SOCIETY WAS NOT ALWAYS RECEPTIVE TO JEWISH PEOPLE OR DID WE CONVIENTLY FORGET THAT ?????????....FREE MONEY FOR 51 I DONT THINK SO !!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COME WHEN IT SUITS OUR PURPOSE WE DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT PLACES LIKE 51.WHAT THIS AMOUNTS TO IS.....UNDER THIS ADMIN COMPLAIN ABOUT 51 ....IF THEY CUT IT ....THEY ARE AGAINST THE MILITARY.....CANT WIN........ME I DONT MIND THE CRITCISM BUT NOW WE ARE JUST SPOUTING THE PARTY LINE...IF YOU REALLY KNEW HOW THIS SOUNDS TO A MINORITY.......OR MAYBE YOU DO KNOW.......?????????????

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM
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    this blog hit the nail on the head.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 3:07 PM
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    Really like that comment about the hunters. Kinda shocking.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 3:10 PM
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    Never stopped to think about all the hunters in this country and the amout of different weapons they have. Sure nice to know hunters alone make up the largerest army in the world and knowing they all have ammo for all those guns. What a deal if someone wants more gun control or take over this Country, not going to be a walk in the park by no means. Just look at our area at how many hunters are in this area plus the ones that don't hunt be still have the weapons at hand.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 3:48 PM
  • -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 6:13 PM
  • hmmmmm their really not talking about blunders over in England

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 6:29 PM
  • HISTORY LESSON.........The attack on pearl harbor was planned at WEST POINT...it was a known fact that any war in the pacific would be precipetated by such and attack.The japanese were interned as shows in the released documents strictly for partsian,political reasons,and was in no way needed.Those people suffered a grave injustice both emotionally and monetarily that some people to this day benefite from.THE COMPENSATION WASNT EVEN PENNYS ON THE DOLLAR.

    If you would have taken the time to hear netenyahue speech 5 days latter he said the same thing the president said.I dont know any black project that the cost is known or has been known if you do name one?The military is going to be cut again and it is not about social programs.BEFORE THAT BELL IS TOLLED CHECK OUT WHY.

    IT GETS EASIER FROM THERE........???????????

    THAT IS WHAT THE GUARDS SAID AT THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.............THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW WERE YOUR HEADED.THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE NATION IT IS ABOUT WHO SHOULD ......RULE

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 7:49 PM
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    No the media is not going to talk about what Obama is doing overseas, that would put a black mark on his record. Talk about the tornados is more important anyway and while Joplin got wiped out the President was in Ireland drinking beer instead of taking of our own country, what a waste. Give money to all the foreign countries in the world, no interest, no nothing but comes to the USA if you are lucky you can get a low interest loan. Great way to run a country.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 7:52 PM
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    Lamont: I don't have much to say, but I sure don't need you trying to give me a History lesson on what has been going on in the world for the last 50 years +. Most of us know what when on putting us in WWII, we made some mistakes but that was a long time ago.

    As far as area 51 I doubt very seriously any of you people making comments about ever worked in that part if land and what goes on there the general public will never know. Sure we have had secret aircraft that flew out of there and probably still do. That area didn't expand with the building and runways just for nice to have. Those aircraft that fly out of Vegas and the Buses take people to the area. I have known one person that did work there and woundn't tell me a thing. Look at the pictures taken from above where you see nobody or anything moving cause they know when those camera's are looking at the area. What they are doing today even Congress doesn't know and why should they, all they can do is leak secrets anyway. Gimme a break about area 51 none of you know what your talking about nor do I when it comes to that secret base.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 8:18 PM
  • LAST 50 YRS ??????? WERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM ??????????I STATED EXAMPLES AND THERE RELEVANCEY TO TODAY.Do we only allow that when it comes from a different political view?.......I HAVE FRIENDS ALSO WHO WORKED AT AREA 51 AND YOUR RIGHT THEY DONT TALK MUCH,BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I AM GLAD THEY DONT.I DIDNT MAKE MY COMMENT SPECIFIC TO 51 talked about black projects period.

    Lets see he was sopposed to have a crystal ball that said a tornado is going to wipe out Joplin.And we have FEMA for what??????YOUR PROBLEM WITH MONEY DIDNT START WITH HIM OR THIS ADMINISTRATION.I dont like the policy either but our congress hasnt seen fit to change it,besides someone has to make a profit RIGHT ?????

    THE MEDIA is talking about the trip and why,maybe we just dont wont to hear it or whatever he does is wrong so who cares ????????

    FUNNY WE CAN HOLD UP NAZI IDEALS AS THE WAY TO GO AND ITS ALRIGHT EAGLE EYE.I QUESTION THAT AND YOU CHASTISE ABOUT A HISTORY LESSON.I GUESS HISTORY IS THE WAY YOU SEE, IT AS LONG AS YOUR ON THE UPPER SIDE

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, May 25, 2011, at 9:54 PM
  • HERES one you just screamed......so back at you the people we put in those camps were AMERICAN CITEZENS OR HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THAT.......WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT JAPAN DID????????????

    HITLERS SURGEONS DID THE SAME IF NOT WORST OR ARE WE CLAIMING HE ADVANCED MEDICAL SCIENCE.....IV HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.

    WE HELPED TO REBUILD GERMANY JUST DIDNT ADVERTISE IT...THIS IS NOT ONE SIDED.

    THERE IS A HISTORY OF BURYING ENEMY DEAD WITH RESPECT.THE PRESIDENCE WAS SET LONG BEFORE US.I MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT ITS THERE.

    Sometimes it would appear that it is easy to hold certain groups in estemm and degrade others for the same acts,why is that?????????the act is the act.

    The compensation i was talking about was to the american citezens,We took there land,homes,money etc and didnt give it back.IT WAS CONFISCATED THROUGH FORCLOSURE,EMMENENT DOMAIN ETC.AND I GUESS THAT WAS OK??????????

    I am thinking we state we love our country but advocate overthrow of the government .......????

    CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG........!!!!!!!!!!

    I DIDNT LABEL ANYONE.........THE STATED REHETORIC WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED MAINSTREAM AMERICA.........AND THE ADVOCATION OF VIOLENCE UNDER THE BANNER OF PATRIOTISM HAS BEEN TOTED BEFORE AND IT ALWAYS SEEMS THAT PEOPLE WHO DONT FIT A CERTAIN MOLD WIND UP CATCHING THE BRUNT OF IT.......AND THAT INCLUDES ...RUBY RIDGE,BRANCH DIVIDEAN ETC.RIGHT NOW WE ARE SCAPEGOATING MUSLIM AMERICANS WHO'S NExt....???????????? when you persecute your own citezens you are walking a path to desaster......because the question always comes up AM I NEXT???????????

    AND FOR THE RECORD HITLER SAW THE GERMAN PEOPLE AS A TOOL FOR HIS DESIRE TO RULE THE WORLD,EVEN HIS BEST GENERALS SAW IT......PURE UNADULTERATED POWER IS WHAT HE WAS ABOUT AND THAT WAS ALL,A MASTER AT THE GOOD THINGS AND VERY POOR AT ANYTHING ELSE.AND SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH YES MEN...................THINK ABOUT YOUR POST

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 8:49 AM
  • Scapegoating Muslims? Here's what I have come to learn:

    I find, that the closer you get to the epicenter of ANYTHING, the closer you will come to it's purest form. If I want to learn about Mormonism, I don't go to Serbia, I go to Utah. If I desire to learn about Catholicism, I go to the Vaitican, not Missouri, and so on. I have been to the Middle East, and I can tell you I have seen the TRUE Islam. I will heed the words of a Wisconisn Muslim, about as well as I will heed the words of a Sanfracsican buddhist.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 9:35 AM
  • Lamont, Sir, stop SCREAMING! It's BORING, AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO YOUR POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It reads as if you are so emotionaly involved, you cant listen to reason. You are far more informed and well-written to be labled as too emotionally involved to carry on an educational, or philosophical debate.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:14 AM
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    I wonder if thats how he talks, just screaming.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:22 AM
  • It's not about screaming, its about eye sight! Wait until your his age

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM
  • CHECK HIS PREVIOUS POSTS. HE CAPS WHEN HE CHOOSES. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW OLD I AM.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:33 AM
  • Here is another history lesson, Lamont. If you have ever seen WWII prisoners of war interviewed , you will find that many of them were not given a place to live, but expected to walk for miles on death marches with no medical care, very little food. They worked in Japanese factories, like Mitsubishi, built roads under some extreme conditions.

    Did the US make mistakes? Yes. I guess you forgot about the balloons containing bombs that were recovered after Pearl Harbor on the Mainland discovered as far as Montana.

    Those who managed to survive the Philipenes, Japan, or Even the Chinese who suffered under the Japanese hands, were NEVER Compensated or Apologized to.

    The US is not perfect and we do have our moments of shame. But WE DO NOT OWE anyone a living at this point. Education and other opportunities have been provided for decades now to anyone's decendants who was cheated out of land, temporary freedoms or other situations.

    It is past time to move on and bring this country back together. A President is sworn in by oath to his office. If he cannot do the job he has been elected to or refuses to honor his sworn oath, we need to move on, whether he is purple, green or fushia.

    And that goes for any member of any party that has consistantly gratified his or her own interests instead of those of his constituents.

    I recommend that read the Butter Battle Book by Dr. Seus. We are all arguing over what side of the bread needs to be buttered and creating barriers where they don't need to be.

    Our Country's interests should come first. There will be plenty left over for aid and other issues if we get back to being a United Country again.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:37 AM
  • Sorry, I forgot to ask if anyone was up for a game of Ping-Pong? Apparently that is what the heads of state do when they don't have anything to say to each other.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:44 AM
  • I think lamont puts caps on not to scream but to make sure you see what he wrote. As far as age goes I don't know how old you are sixguns but if your 70 then your older then lamont.

    Americanism is an unfailing love of country, loyalty to its institutions and ideals, eagerness to defend it against all enemies, undivided allegiance to the flag, and a desire to sescure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and posterity.

    I love my country no matter who is president and I believe in democracy.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:51 AM
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    sixguns, you go to the Vatican to learn about Catholicism, to Utah to learn about Mormonism, but you've come to this blog expecting to "... carry on an educational, or philosophical debate"

    WHAT?!

    If you can't ignore a little thing like capitalization and let it intimidate you, you might ought to mosey along.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM
  • Speaking of death marches lets not forget what we did to the indians

    When: 1831-39

    Where: Virginia, West Virginia, North and South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Florida

    Who: Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Seminole

    Why: population pressures. The settlers wanted more land, the Cherokees were not willing to give it up

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM
  • I WILL SAY THIS ONE LAST TIME,I AM NOT A TYPIST PLAIN AND SIMPLE.IF I AM TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ACROSS I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE CAPITALIZATION KEY.

    I dont think I STUTTERED those PEOPL WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS.NOT ENEMY COMBATANTS.WHAT DOES BALLONS HAVE TO DO WITH CITIZENS.OR PEARL HARBOR??

    AMAZING....CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!! THE PROBLEMS OF HOW OUR PEOPLE WERE TREATED IN WAR ZONES AND AS PRISONERS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT,AND HAS BEEN.BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT IS STILL AND UNRESOLVED ISSUE.

    ZOMBIE......I dont scream at anyone that must be what you would like to believe,makes it easy to ignore what im saying.....its ok.your lose.

    Lets get this straight I DIDNT SAY WE OWED ANYONE......but before we denegrate anyone lets be sure our own house is clean and its not.

    I did not talk of anyones colour I really dont care unless it comes into play,and that includes being implied.

    DONT ANYONE HERE DOUGHT THIS I AM AND UNDYING PATRIOT,A FLAG WAVING FOOL,WITH LOVE OF COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE. 28YRS IN UNIFORM,4.5 YRS IN COMBAT ZONE......I LOVE ENOUGH TO QUESTION WHEN THINGS I FEEL ARE WRONG,BECAUSE THAT IS HOW YOU FIND ANSWERS.PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME ABOUT BRING IT BACK TOGETHER IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE PARTED IN ANYONE EYES,BUT IT DID. THINK ABOUT THIS STATEMENT " WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK" QUESTION.........FROM WHO ????????????? AND THEN THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT CONVEYS.

    KHGAL did you have the same comment about PRES BUSH?????? just curious.OPPERTUNITY does not replace land ,homes,etc and if you think it does you should lose it and then get back to us,it does not........once gone it is gone.

    SIXGUN...... there is reason to believe that at least 2 of the founding fathers could have had muslim leanings,and REP ELLISON is and ELECTED AMERICAN CITIZEN.NICE TRY...... YOU KNOW I KNEW GUYS WHO WANTED TRANSFERS BECAUSE THE COMMANDER WAS......GO GET YOU A COPY OF TUSGGEE AIRMAN....THE MOVIES IS A DRAMATIZATION BUT IT MAKES SOME VALID POINTS THAT ARE MEANGFULL TODAY.

    DAVE ........ THANKYOU....MS M THANKYOU .....AMERICANISM,... COULDNT BE SAID BETTER

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 12:37 PM
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    Did any of you see on the news today how our Government is wasting money on things we could care less about? I can't remember all the stuff but one item is the Government spend $500,000 on studing shrimp on a treadmill. Now thats something we really need to spend on, they have spend millions on other study's like baby names etc and the list keeps going.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 3:44 PM
  • NO PROBLEM WITH ME,I AM NOT FOR NOR HAVE I BEEN FOR UNFETTERED FINANCIAL AID TO ANYONE,I HAVE ALWAYS SAID WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FIRST.

    My position on that has not changed,I agree with eagle eye also,some studies are needed,a heck of a lot of them are not and shouldnt be funded,The funding is part of the PORK barrel. question....why isnt this money put to and up or down vote??? OR IS IT?????

    I dont know that EVERYONE is defending the spending,I think it is more like HOW you make the cuts and now WERE?????? I think a deal can be had......but they have to include subsidies for a start( that is corporate welfare).I think other than emergency care ,and life and death Illegals should NOT get health care on our dime.DEPORT TO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.GOV OF TEXAS IS PLAYING POLITICS

    he knows we cannot put boots on the ground,he wanted a fence he is getting it and now he is complaining.GOVERNMENT CANT DO IT ALL AT ONCE AND HE KNOWS IT.

    No body is going to help us with a desaster that is natural.IT BOTHERS ME ALSO,i know that countries have sent personel,specialist but by inlarge they expect that the strongest nation in the world can go it alone.We can as soon as we get to doing us first and foremost.AID takes so many forms ,from people to money,and then there are the ways we disguise it.(320,000) DEPENDENTS IN EUROPE THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY SPENT FOR STARTERS.DID you know that the largest American community beyond our borders is kaiserslatuen germany.....over 50,000 dependents.

    We need to focus on those kind of things not the UNWED MOTHER ON FOOD STAMPS,OR PLANNED PARENTHOOD,THERE ARE BIGGER FISH TO FRY.........DONT THINK I AM NOT AS ANGRY AS YOU I just look in different places......consider that you might be looking were they want you too.

    THE CONSTITUION IS NOT INFALLIBLE IT IS A GUIDLINE....LIKE ANY OTHER GUIDLINE IT IS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION (THE SUPREME COURT)you probally will disagree but at least consider it.WELL enough for me for this minute....see ya!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 4:44 PM
  • YES it is the law but if it didnt need to be INTERPRETED we wouldnt need THE SUPREME COURT.....,....OR ARE YOU FOR ABOLISHING IT TO????

    I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION......YOU LIBERALS !!!!!!!!!!!! WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO ?????? i didnt tell you i was a liberal......i said i leaned that way.......so your interepretation is im a liberal.....intresting.WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TEAR IT DOWN.....I DIDNT....."RISE FROM THE ASHES"...... IT HAS NEVER BEEN THERE...... THAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION.....OK... THAT TORE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 6:47 PM
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    I think we must interpret the Constitution as our society advances. For example, the 2nd Amendment (amendment = a change for the better) provides for the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

    Now if we're not to "... bend, twist, distort the words in it, and have activist judges legislate from the bench around it...", we'd all be legally packing slow burning, smoky heat based on technology that is more than 222 years old.

    James Madison was not omniscient. Do you think he expected us to be carrying colonial period weapons 222 years after he drafted the amendment?

    I believe we'd disappoint the men who wrote the documents that declared our freedoms if we cemented our minds in 1789, while we fail to make the reasonable accomodations that protect our nation and the freedoms of our citizenry as the nations of the world evolve around us.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 6:50 PM
  • ACTIVIST JUDGES....SCALIA....THOMAS,ALITO,AND CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS THAT IS WHAT MOST OF AMERICA CALLS......CONSERVATIVE.......BUT DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION ????????? I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT......THANKYOU !!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 6:54 PM
  • YEAH DAVE !!!!!!!!!!!! BuT I dont think that will be the end of it......But what do I know ??????

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 7:50 PM
  • THERE YOU GO AGAIN......NAME CALLING.....DID ANYONE CALL MTN HOMMER A NAME ?????????? INFESTED.....THE TERMINOLOGY IS ONE OF CONTEMPT...AND HERE IS A PERSON WHO SAYS HE IS AND EDUCATED PERSON......WHO IS CONTEMPTIOUS OF HIS FELLOW MAN. especially any man that doesnt think his way,WHO STATES...... WE ALL KNOW....WHO IS WE ALL .?????? nobody here is HIDING except YOU.....YOU HIDE BEHIND ......NAME CALLING...it changes the dialog.....but not today we are not going for it.....I didnt state anything about change and rereading DAVE neither did he,WHAT are you talking about ??????????

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 9:36 PM
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    MtnHomer, I don't think you understood what I posted.

    Cowards?!

    Hey, I'm the one signing my real name on anything I post!

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Thu, May 26, 2011, at 9:40 PM
  • Zook Theres still hope for Palin to run and then you can vote for her again hahahha !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 8:35 AM
  • -- Posted by DaveThompson on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 9:17 AM
  • NEWS FLASH....THERE IS A DEVICE CALLED AND AUTO PEN......HE WILL SIGN THE BILL IN FRANCE AT 5 AM THERE TIME............PAGE 2 ID STATESMAN. SO MUCH FOR SNIDE REMARKS........AGAIN

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 12:35 PM
  • THINGS ARE IN PLACE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT IS HE SOPPOSED TO DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FASTER ???????? THE ECONOMY BY ALL INDICATERS IS RECOVERYING,YES IT IS SLOW......WE DID NOT GET HERE ON THE EXPRESS SO WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT TO LEAVE ON IT ???? THAT IS UNREASONABLE.i am sure that a different president would do it faster......I dont see any exspress proposals comming out of the republican controlled congress.so whats the deal?????? they PROMISED jobs like right now, it aint happened !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    Didnt need congress for libyian action......war powers act.....60 days......ck it out.IF he was wrong the right would still be in his face.

    IS all that happens here is people sitting around looking for anything to critersize ??????? and when it is not him its the wifes dress,hair etc shame shame shame.......,hope were better than this.........we show everyday we are NOT

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 3:56 PM
  • THE NEXT TIME YOU CALL ME OR ANYONE A NAME MTN HOMMER LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CONSIDER DEAR THEY MIGHT FIT YOUR NAME CALLING BETTER THAN ANYONE SEEING HOW YOU ARE THERE PRODUCT.............YOUR own numbers qualified the statment...... "slowly" by posting the fact that there is such a device to be used negates your snide remark of fly it to him.

    Funny thing you have republicans distancing themselfes from the REP RYAN proposal.WHY????????

    because of the death panels ...remember them ????? SAME TACTICS USED AGAINST HIM AND HE DOESNT LIKE IT.YOU CONTROL THE CONGRESS WHATS THE PROBLEM???????? YOU SAID THAT IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

    YOU cant justify YOUR NAME calling with talking about MY EMOTIONS .....THAT WILL NOT WORK......... you see just the FACT THAT YOUR RESPONSE IS THE WAY IT IS SHOWS WHO HAS EMOTIONINAL PROBLEMS.........I COULD SEND YOU SOME PAMPERS IF YOU LIKE..,....GET A GRIP !!!!!!!!

    TRY JOINING THE HUMAN RACE,WE MIGHT EVEN LET YOU

    IM GOING TO TELL YOU THIS ONE LAST TIME MTN HOMMER DONT TRY TO LABEL ME OR ANYONE.YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO PASS THAT KIND OF JUDGMENT.YOU WORSHIP YOURSELF YOU NEED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD I AM SURE.

    FOR SOME REASON YOU THINK YOU ARE SMARTER THAN,MORE PATRIOTIC THAN,MORE RIGHT THAN,HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS ETC.IF THERE IS A HEAVEN OR A HELL IM SURE YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON HOW ITS RUN...........YOU SIR ARE A SELF MADE PERSON.......THAT IS A JOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU REALLY DONT WANT TO DO THIS BUT IF YOU INSIST FEEL FREE.

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM
  • My my homer when in doubt and nothing important to say throw out insults, way to go to cover up your insecurities and meaningless ramblings.. Your upset because so far the Republican parties don't have any one that they feel can run against Obama....They were counting on Romney but that ain't going to happen.... :) Maybe Sara will run, I hope she does, it will become a very interesting race

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 7:38 PM
  • I think both sides put a spin to things and palin was not the only one picked on. Heck even when Bush was in office his family was picked on and that to me is different then if he was only running. They picked on his wife Laura and his girls. I think its terrible when a President gets called names as well as his family and I will never be one to call them Hitler, or worse.

    And as you have said before .about Obama is the same for Palin She knew what she was in for, that's politics and it doesn't matter which party....

    It sure would be a big history time if Herman Cain gets nominated....... 2 black men running against each other....

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 9:41 PM
  • PALIN IS NOT THE PRESIDENT.......THERE IS A DIFFERENCE..........she got picked at because she talked family values and spun it but she had a minor child having a baby out of wedlock.....not ideal for family values,she pushed that.YES IT WAS UGLY,AND IT WAS NOT CALLED FOR........but MRS PALIN tried to SPIN IT.but that is not and exscuse for what the MEDIA did.If a democratic public figure had the same situation they would be all over them too.IF ONE OF THE PRESEDENTS DAUGHTERS WERE TO COME UP PREGNANT WHAT WILL BE SAID WOULD NOT BE PRINTABLE.......YES THEY BOTH GET PICKED AT UNMERCIFULLY AND YOU KNOW IT....NOW I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY IF A SKELETON COMES FORWARD FROM ANYWHERE IN THAT FAMILY IT WILL BE PLAYED BEYOND BELIEFE/It has already been tried.He doesnt identify with,socialize with,attend dinners with any of his kenyan relatives.....because he doesnt even know them....and we are still trying to link him to them and kenya.HOW COME WE ARE NOT LOOKING IN HAWAII?????????? I think I know why,and i think you do too.Ill tell you something else if you went to most black churches in America and expected not hear at some time a sermon like REV WRIGHT's I HAVE GOT NEWS FOR YOU.

    BACK TO... PALIN she is still in the public eye and therefore inviting those same kind of attacks ....and they will come.She still has some ethics problems,and misuse of power problems that will come back into focus,That is what happens when you talk one thing and do another....so get mad now and get over it.

    This PRESIDENT has a lot to run on you dont see it that way because he didnt do it your way.So before you make that statement i suggest that you take a deep breath and do some homework looking at it from the other side,,,,if you can do that???? I WILL ADMIT AND HAVE ADMITTED HIS FAULTS.....HOWEVER I CAN ALSO SEE THE GOOD.....I DARE SAY YOU CANT.....SO LETS SEE WHAT SHAKES OUT SEE YA...........

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, May 27, 2011, at 10:00 PM
  • With all that said I put it into perspective that it's only your opinion. An opinion from someone we don't even know who he is?

    Not very believable when we don't know who's opinion it is!

    Even if we knew who you are, you still wouldn't be believable because they are only your rantings with nothing to support what you say...

    However in this great country of ours which was lead by Democrats and Republicans and will continue to be that way, we have the freedom of speech and you can say what's on your mind just as I can. And we have the right to vote and the majority wins...Which is why Obama is where he is today..

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 9:26 AM
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    i really dont care if you use caps. i was being a smart @$$

    -- Posted by shockwave on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 9:46 AM
  • Yo hommer I wasn't trying to goad you, only speaking my mind.... And like I said your rantings aren't credible or believable they are only your opinions which don't count for much

    In my opinion the reason you insult is because it's your way to make sure you get that attention. Just like a little boy, who will do any thing good or bad to get the attention he so desperately wants or needs

    But that's only my opinion and not sure if its shared by other bloggers.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 9:57 AM
  • Homer my goof was just that a goof but what is your excuse for a bully of a man?

    You don't back up your facts unless its a copy and paste job that you try to pass off as your idea's.

    I didn't expect you to hold any thing I have to say in high regard because you are who you are. A mean spirited, bully of a man, who can't share his opinion unless he bullies.

    When you first started leaving your opinions on the blogs you came right out with insults.

    We who have been commenting on these blogs long before you appeared, all some what got a long. We didn't agree but we didn't insult those that had different opinions. Your insults were so bad they had to be deleted ! What does that say about you?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 10:38 AM
  • p.s. homer I forgot to mention It's a long weekend and the comments probably won't be checked until Tuesday, so knock yourself out with your nasty insults, they should stay put until Tuesday morning.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 10:43 AM
  • HA HA HA HA I try to refrain from calling names or throwing out insults, but gosh it's hard to do with you.... You are so inviting to insult...

    I only insult back, never the one that starts throwing them.... After all some times I need to put my big girl pants on and defend myself against Mr. Nasty

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 11:01 AM
  • homer you make me laugh!

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 11:04 AM
  • THANKS ...ZOOK FOR TAKING THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID. THAT IS ALL I WANTED.

    ABOUT REV WRIGHT.....IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT HE SAID IT SHOULD BE ABOUT... WHY DID HE SAY IT??????and that is were the message gets lost.Being in his age group i know why he said it.YOU were sheltered from it you were in the military and we did things different to a point,we were not as blantant.

    MR CAIN is the next generation,his experienses are different,my generation had already paved the way.SUGGESTION...read GEN COLLEN POWELLS AUTOBIOGRAPHY.....to put things in context you have to read it all.

    I cant speak for the REPUBLICAN PARTY.but i can tell you this they see a black man and to think different is to fool oneself.MR CAIN is not a turncoat and should not be labeled as such.IF THIS were a perfect world the republican party would be great it is not a perfect world.At some time during our history BOTH PARTY'S have stood in the way of EQUAL RIGHTS.In the last 40yrs the repubs have firmly been there, if change is on the horizon that is good....we shall wait and see.

    The subject matter was not touchy,it was talked about without trying to insult anyone with name calling nothing wrong with that.

    I can say some policys I disagree with,I can also say that some I do agree with.This economy is not going to turn around overnight,we are not going to start booming tomorrow so we cant judge policy until it comes to fruition and that requires time like it or not. You did not restore Donna's car overnight.

    Understanding the history sheds light on how one will feel about a given event, add how it impacts YOU.....and you get the response,good ,bad or indifferent.

    HEWBET WERE YOU BEEN??????????? WAS A GREAT GIG IT WAS WARMN ON THE PATIO SUN SHINNING, I WAS SURPRISED TOO....WILL BE AT THE BARDENAY EAGLE PATIO WEDS THE 1ST OF JUNE I THINK WE START AT 6.30 OR 7 DONT HAVE MY BOOK IN FRONT OF ME.

    GOT TO RUN..........

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 1:11 PM
  • In answer to homers question We (our Country) gave Russia help in 1941. Hitler attacked his ally Russia back in June of 41

    When this happened pressure was put upon us (USA)to help Russia and Roosevelt told us the "American people" we are going to help as much as we possibly can

    A new program began called lend-lease supplying Russia with large quantities of war material, all on credit and I think it totaled about 1 billion dollars.

    The last time I checked our freedom of speech has not been taken away, at least not yet. I say at least not yet with humor as some of you are all so afraid we are becoming Obama's puppets.

    So homer because you have Republican idea's its fair game that those of us whose idea's and thoughts are different then yours can voice our opinions just as well as you can, and we should be able to do so with out the insults. Your going to say your an independent, but will never vote democratic, so that leaves you will less choices.

    Republicans and Democrats have never seen eye to eye and that's what makes us a democracy... I am more of an independent then you are homer. I have voted both ways. And I don't have to hide who I voted for. I have voted for Bush and the last go around I voted for Obama, oh and by the way he has a very good chance of getting re-elected. He's still up in the polls, however down in the economy polls. If he can get the economy on a turn up he will get elected..... Everyone knows the economy is not his fault, except for the Republicans who like to play the blame game....

    An after thought the word Democrat was spun from Democracy

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 2:45 PM
  • Let me see if I got this right

    1999-2001 Senate

    Dems 45 Reps 55

    House Dems 211 Reps 223

    2001-2003 Senate

    Dems 50 Reps 50

    House Dems 212 Reps 221

    2003-2005 Senate

    Dems 48 Reps 51

    House Dems 205 Reps 229

    2005-2007 Senate

    Dems 44 Reps 55

    House Dems 202 Reps 231

    2007-2009 Senate

    Dems 49 Reps 49

    House Dems 233 Reps 198

    2009-2011 Senate

    Dems 57 Reps 41

    House Dems 256 Reps 178

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 5:02 PM
  • Ok so in 2007 - 2009 in the senate they were even in numbers but the dems ran the house

    So they couldn't get anything done in the senate because they were equal in numbers?

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 5:42 PM
  • homer you have never shown respect from day one of your comments. You attack and insult at the drop of a hat and then try and turn it around...

    I never said you were hiding. I said I don't hide who I vote for. That statement had nothing to do with you.... And I certainly don't care how or when you voted or why you don't vote Democratic, it wouldn't be of any interest to me.

    HA Ha Homer talk about being a bored blogger, you seem to have time on your hands for the blogs as well as me. You don't seem to be missing any thing, your here every day.... lol ! And you always say your not going to respond to anything I have to say, but you continue to leave your nasty comments.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 7:07 PM
  • HEY ZOOK ......it would seem that from 1999-2007 tou guys ran the show ???????? to include the white house....ANYHOW i hope you didnt get me wrong MR cain has found the republican party to his liking and for you to assume that he doesnt hear any poor me stories is wrong.HE was lucky you are making and assumption that every person had unfretted acess to everything that is uneqivocal garbage......my brother is 2.5 yrs younger than me graduated college before me went on to graduate school before me etc. HIS REALITY AND MINE ARE NOT THE SAME.NOW I DONT DOUGHT WERE MR CAIN CAME FROM.....WHAT I AM SAYING IS THE LARGE MAJORITY DID NOT HAVE THE ACCESS AND THAT IS A FACT,YOU HAD TO FORCE THE ISSUE AND WE SHOULDNT HAVE HAD TOO. ANY story you hear from me is to give incite into that reality.HE like so many of us fought a battle you did not have to fight, and that was and is that we are not good enough....it has not changed much that attitude is still.....YOU MUST BE BETTER THAN TO BE THE SAME AS ....AND THAT SHOULDNT BE..

    Do you remember the comments about the way the president spoke english,how about the way he carries himself.THE reality is there are MANY MORE HERMAN CAINS AND BAROK OBAMAS.....YOU HAVNT SEEN THEM BECAUSE NOBODY WAS LOOKING AND WE WERE NOT EXPECTED TO SUCCEDE....MY MOTHER HAD A PHD...SHE DID NOT GRADUATE H.S TILL SHE WAS 40..WE DONT GIVE UP.ACCESS ZOOK that is what makes change.

    I am not advocating straight ticket voting I TOLD YOU WHY IT HAPPENS.The repubs have there good points I never said they didnt.I would not call there elevation of people like BACHMAN,PALIN,RAND PAUL,GINGRICH TO BE IN THE BEST INTREST OF THE MASSES BUT THAT'S ME.

    YOU cannot turn a blind eye to people and then expect them to follow you.tHE TREATMENT OF MIACHELL STEEL WAS TERRIBLE....AND I DONT LIKE THE GUY,I THINK HE IS 2 FACED TO SAY THE LEAST.

    NOW you are making the same arguments on SPEAKER Boheners behalf that has been made for the President.If you cant accept them on the pres behalf why should they be accepted on the speakers behalf.He promised ,produce...that simple according to...........

    LET fannie and freddie default and you wont have a house because a heck of a lot of our country's securities are backed through fannie and freddie that is why you dont hear it being talked about much anymore from either side.Reallity is a B.....

    Me personally I loath one party RULE NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE GETS DONE.......it's just a cat fight

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 8:42 PM
  • Thanks Zook I'm still trying to learn. And as they say your never to old to learn !

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 28, 2011, at 9:00 PM
  • You bring out the best in me homer boy.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 29, 2011, at 11:40 AM
  • HEY TO LATE TO BE ANGRY ABOUT IT ALL..... The wars we are involved in were not were the focus should have been.WE know we should have focused on BEN LADEN.I told you, all we had to do was turn SPECIAL FORCES loose and they would get him.The shame is we could have done that from the beginning,anyhow i could get mad here such a waste.The thing that really gets me is the money made at our kids exspense.The percieved enemy feeding our troops what kind of....is that???

    YOU JUST POINTED OUT SOMETHING SO PUT THIS IN PERCPECTIVE....your parents have the money to send you and you have the grades but you cant get accepted?????????? anywhere near home,and cant afford to be somewhere else?????????? dont think that would make you to happy. That is access.MR Cain is there because of hard work and there is no dispute. EQUAL ACCESS is the game.

    Not being able to agree is not new when you have to much power.Happens to both sides we are seeing it right now in the congress.WE made changes but it's the same fights,JUST A DIFFERENT SIDE HAVING THEM(SMILE)....thats probally why your so mad.I am beginning to advocate sweep them all out,the barrell is already poisened and nothing is going to change.

    THERE WAS PLENTY OF OPPOSITION,THE FILIBUSTER WAS USED MORE THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN HISTORY...SO I AM INCLINED TO BELIEVE WE WILL SEE THAT AGAIN.

    And it was done for politics not for the good of the country the majority of the time.Speaker Bohennor is not out numbered in the congress he holds the majority.....pass the stuff and see what the senate does.....that is what the dems did ,do it.

    FANNIE AND FREDDIE impact due to there mismangment also.PROPERTY VALUES will come back i have been here before but it will take awhile.You have to understand that the values they went to were false,they were inflated so that those packaged securitys could make wall street a lot of money.Basically the same thing goes on with oil prices.The price of crude should not be were it is at and they know it.

    WE are not going to get out of the UN.Like it or not it is a control mechanism,sometimes it doesnt work but sometimes it does.So far we carry the big stick and that is good and any "world Government " we will still have the big stick for now.I dont want to see a world war ever again,there are big if's on how we would fair alone.You need to remember that.....ALONE....and we will not be UNSCATHED...THAT IS A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY WE HAVE .THAT WE WILL BE UNSCATHED WRONG..........STAY ABREAST OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND WEAPON SYSTEMS.....MORE THAN A LITTLE SCARY

    WELL GOT TO RUN CK YOU LATTER

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, May 29, 2011, at 5:35 PM
  • Lamont

    You make more sense then the others who leave comments here, especially more sense then the attention seeker, copy & paste hypocrite homer boy

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 29, 2011, at 6:10 PM
  • Property values will never come back to what they were and the money the home owners had in their homes is gone. Trillions of dollars lost in personal money. We have spent (past tense) our grand kids money and put them so far in debt they will never have the life style we have had. We are not creating jobs except in government and we don't have an energy policy. We are living under an administration that has openly said our gas prices should reach European levels and we are well on our way. We have been duped by our government for far too long and it has gotten much worse under this administration.The regular worker needs some relief and he isn't getting it. When the media, lawyers, teacher's unions. labor unions, minorities, illegals, and welfare recipients are on one side it will be hard to make any changes in policy coming out of Washington. We will not be able to fund medicare, Obama care, SS benefits and much more in the not too distant future unless all our money is confiscated and I'm sure they will try. It doesn't look too good for the future of our country from where I sit.

    -- Posted by skeeter on Mon, May 30, 2011, at 6:50 AM
  • We don't spend a lot of money on gas and we have 2 vehicles, I don't drive and we spend around $50-$60 a month on gas and we gas up at the Maverick. We have never had a gas bill over $100.00 even back in the 90's and still don't go over that.. Unless we take a trip then it will be more...

    Talk to Pat's brother in Cali they just bought a new car $30,000 and they already have 2 nice vehicles. They live in a 3,000 sq ft home that they had build a few years back and don't seem to have any problem with the economy

    Then my son who lives in NY bought a really nice home has 2 small boys and they don't seem to have a problem with the economy other then they noticed the cost of food has gone up.

    I don't know but is it Mountain Home that feels the crunch more then other cities? I look around Mountain Home and see all the empty houses and all the empty stores and I know money is tight.The biggest reason is of coarse the base.

    I feel the pain for those that lost their homes, and especially for the people down south, Missouri, tennessee, Arkansas and etc.

    I am happy for what we have, as there are others that are far off worse then us.

    I don't see the economy getting any better for a very long time. Who ever is the next President will be dealing with the same issue's we have now...

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, May 30, 2011, at 9:28 AM
  • Bush spent way too much and acted like he had to do it to get along. He should have cut spending along with his tax cuts and I think some people would have liked him more.

    -- Posted by skeeter on Tue, May 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM
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    Bawk Bawk Bawk Bawk... Thats all it is on Mountain Home News Blogs, Everybody wonders why America is spinning the drain. Its obvious, no one gets along. I'm not saying lets all get along, cause i know thats pretty much impossible. We all just have to learn to tolerate, but yet again impossible. Because we have to clutch to what we think is right. Thats just human nature.

    Whats even better about it is that most of you dont even know who eachother are. But yet I bet you walk by eachother all the time and dont even realize it. But on here is like throwing two wet cats in a bag and watching them go at it. It really is amuseing. Even better than that is, 100 years from now, none of this is even going to matter. I do very much so agree with this blog, and even more when I read it out loud to my Co-workers they all agree, and when i read them the comment about American Hunters being the largest army, everyone gets the chills, cause that right there is real. And in the end thats all thats going to matter, who has the most guns and ammo.

    Keep it up. It all makes me laugh. I do really wonder how old some of you are. Cause name calling, very elementary school of you.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Sat, Jun 4, 2011, at 10:46 AM
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