The Day We Said........."ENOUGH!"

Posted Tuesday, February 22, 2011, at 10:17 AM
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  • Thanks for the story. I also remember that day. I was a KC-135 crew chief TDY to Diego Garcia. Our airplanes launched and orbited for several hours before our reciever showed up for some gas. I was told to stay in the front of the aircraft away from all windows. The reciever aircraft was top secret and was awaiting orders to Iran. We knew that it was time for the Iran Hostage Crisis to come to an end.

    -- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 11:03 AM
  • I was never told what type of aircraft we had refueled, but knowing what I know now, I suspect it was an F-117.

    -- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 11:40 AM
  • This is great. I am going to forward it to my husband.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 12:27 PM
  • This is a great story.

    -- Posted by KH Gal on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM
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    Jesse James, the problem is our current leaders (both dems and republicans) are neither of your ideas of a good leader. To me the word that best describes our current leader is COWARD. I'm not saying it is right but if Regan was still in charge you would have probably seen some mushroom clouds and not 10 years of fighting on their terms. He might not have had Obamas body but it would have probably been vaporized. I do think that it is only a matter of time before we do start seeing the mushroom clouds starting in arabia somewhere. One terrorist with no problem usinging it when he knows that your to chicken to respond. What is stopping him from setting it off? You can't attack his country as he dosen't have one even though he came from one. How about the statment that if any nuclear explosion that is traced to a individual terrorist (say osama) the country where he came from (saudi) and the country that harbors him (afganistan) would be wiped of the face of the earth. Would that stop him? Probably not but it would give those countries a reason to stop them themselves before they can cause the terrorist attach. Do you think our current leaders would say that to the world.....you fooling yourself if you say yes.

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 1:43 PM
  • Bazooka,

    The F-117 flew its first flight in Feburary 1978. They kept it secret for a long time.

    -- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 2:17 PM
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    Jesse you just don't get it. It is being POLITICALLY CORRECT that is making the world a very unsafe place. Today 4 Americans killed by Pirates and nothing is done. We know were the pirates are coming from and the fact that some countries have already paid ransons mean they will keep doing it until somebody (country) has the balls to take a stand. I never said BLOW UP THE ONE TERRORIST, I said go after the country supporting them and the country they came from....THEIR FAMILY.

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 6:04 PM
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    Bazooka, I was at RAF Upper Heyford. Our EF-111's went to Lybia also. Agreed if you don't do anything it gives them the green light to keep on doing it and if you reward it it will just get wourse (paying the ransom).

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 6:44 PM
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    Yep, we had the EF's (ravens) and the E models. I have some great pictures and drawing of them. I know you guys got the F's Our claim to fame was the EF's.

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 6:57 PM
  • I don't know if Osama Bin Laden is alive or dead. But when they had him cornered at Tora Bora, I said that it was much more to our advantage to NOT confirm his death or capture. We were better off with the image of an ineffective boogeyman hiding in the wilderness than making him a martyr or a "hero" subject for trade or attempted rescue.

    -- Posted by Larry S. on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 8:09 PM
  • I'm not defending Jimmy Carter, but the rescue mission to Iran was poor planning primarily by 3 senior officers & their advisors. Although I don't have all the intimate details, I had a run in with the 3 main commanders during that mission. They failed to consider a lot of things -- and it cost US lives! Our folks screwed up Big Time on that one! Carter made enough mistakes without having to take the fall for them on that one.

    -- Posted by Larry S. on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 8:24 PM
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    Jesse the problem is with we won't have a free America if we go with your plan. Nobody is afraid of the USA anymore, they don't care if they kill Americans here or abroad because nothing happens to them. Nobody is held accountable. What do they care if a few are locked up at gitmo. They say their not attached to any country but they came from a country and are hiding in a country somewhere. We need to hold these countries accountable for their CITIZENS actions. If Saudi knew that 19 terrorist from SAUDI would kill over 3000 innocent Americans in American that they would glow for a few years do you think they would have let it happen. Yes they had to know about it, maybe not the details but they had to know something. If 19 Americans did this to Russia or China do you think they would have done nothing? I don't think so. Doing nothing encourages more attacks, they are at war with us and we don't even call it a war anymore. They have already won with that thinking, its only a matter of time.

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM
  • thanks guys. Really lots to think about. Where do we go from HERE? Regan is NOT coming back and our current commander is questionable. Where do we go from here? Someone suggest a reasonable approach for tomorrow. I propose no solution but ask you... what is our course of action for tomorrow? Where, when, can we meet and talk about our course of action for our kids and grandkids?

    -- Posted by bob8492 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM
  • my schedule is open

    -- Posted by bob8492 on Tue, Feb 22, 2011, at 10:16 PM
  • Great story, but the item you were talking about was not deemed the "silver fish" it was affectionately referred to as "the silver bullet". After all I loaded many of them in my 26 years in the Air Force as a Weapons Troop. Just thought you'd like to know. Just wish we could get another President like Reagan. Somebody with the guts to take care of their country and tell the rest of the world, "Sorry, but we're broke and have to take care of us first and when we complete that mission then we can start helping the rest of you." Then cut off all aid to those countries that have been leeching off of us for so long and plus stop Congress from using our money, I mean the tax payers money as their own little piggybank. Cancel NAFTA and tell the countries we import from that they will now have the same tariffs and taxes on their items coming into our country as they place on ours going into theirs. Tax the heck out of companies doing business overseas and tax breaks to those doing business in the United States. Cancel China's favorable trade agreement and let them trade equally with the rest of the world. Stop letting foreign buyers buy of all the companies and land in the United States. Been to Hawaii lately, just look around and you'll understand what I'm talking about. Don't get me started on political correctness....what a crock because you can't please everyone all the time, so why try. Another thing, in order to understand the Muslim religion you must read the English version of the Quran and make sure it's not one used in any type of public forum, because they've conveniently left out important verses. Go on line and read it because it will tell you what the warm and fuzzy people don't want you to see. I know this may upset some people, but I really don't care...after all, it's my opinion and since I'm a Christian and not under Sharia law, I still have that freedom.

    -- Posted by Scooby493 on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 8:44 AM
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    Doesn't make any differance what you want to call it, it was silver in color and the load training hanger at MHAFB has one for training and all it was, was metal to look real. Anyone that worked around aircraft knew what was be loaded in the real world. Mike you all know what was loaded on your Alert birds in England and if they took off we all knew all heck was about to break loose. I was in Germany and we had the Alert birds loaded with missiles and where I worked I knew when they launched pri 1 going after Russia or pri 2 training. We also had those weapons on the move all the time to keep Russia confused to where what was at. Mike I was one of those guys you called a dicator while in Germany and had UHF with the pilots on the ground and command post.

    Command Post we only listened to and the Pilots would call us after they landed giving us the status of the aircraft and telling them what where to park. I also spend a number of years with the F-111F at MHAFB I was here when the first one landed and stayed long enough to build all 4 squardrons. I came back from Germany due to ready switch when the F's when to England and the A's came to MHAFB and they didn't have many flyable aircraft then. Some of those aircraft weren't even flight worthy from Nellis to here, but they got them here somehow. Also worked the EF as they started coming back from the mod. Retired all the F-111's after I retired.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 3:50 PM
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    P.S. Mike if some of you get together over coffee and talk about some of the military things, if I am free would also like to join in.

    -- Posted by Eagle_eye on Wed, Feb 23, 2011, at 3:53 PM
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    Lots of stuff you all gave us to think on. I already had a favorite President. Ronald Reagan was mine already, and now even more so.

    I think he WOULD want the job. And he'd be up to the challenge. Families first was a good motto then, is still now. There'd be sorrow, but ....

    -- Posted by jessiemiller on Thu, Feb 24, 2011, at 11:59 AM
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