Generation ExPosted Sunday, September 13, 2009, at 10:40 AM
Map of tea parties! We are many!
"There is a lot of intensity on the far right to defeat the president's agenda, but I am not sure that holding up signs that say we have to bury health reform with Senator Kennedy will go over well with moderates and independent voters," said Doug Thornell, an adviser to Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.). (Washington Post) HUH? The Obama administration is planning their counter-attack by using the media and internet to spread propaganda against all of those "moderates" Everyone who opposes their agenda will be referred to as enemies of the state, as traitors, as dangerous EXtremists, as domestic terrorists. They must turn the tide of the leftist, democrats and those balanced on the fence against us fast before it's too late. You can feel the anxious fear in the air as they have meetings all over the country behind closed doors to come up with their lies to feed the Obama-loving media. EXit reason, enter desperation! Be aware, people! They seek to label us as un-American, discredit us and point to us while screaming, "domestic terrorists". They will lie and cheat in record numbers to discourage the world from listening to us. They start rumors in order to instill fear that we are violent-prone with guns at our sides ready to start the 2nd Civil War. And if people listen, then the liars win. Another important situation to consider as this Administration gears up to discredit and shame us all is staged violence. I believe that protesting is powerful and can be affective in a peaceful way. However, as it has happened many times in the history of mankind, riots can be started quite easily within a large crowd. Planting a few people through-out the crowds and getting them to become violent would serve them well. We must be very careful. I believe that violence will not be started by one of us so called right wing EXtremist but from the other side, posing as one of us. You may shake your head and say, "No way." But remember that Obama has surrounded himself with Marxist, Corruption, and activists all his life. It is what he knows. His power amoug these criminals should not be taken lightly. These thugs in Washington know that the people have spoken loudly and put them on notice. You better believe that they are going to come out fighting with every tactic and every type of psychological warfare that they can conjure up. "The coming weeks and months may well set the course for this nation for a generation," said Indiana Rep. Mike Pence, the No. 3 GOP House leader. He further said, "How we as conservatives respond to these challenges could determine whether America retains her place in the world as a beacon of freedom, or whether we slip into the abyss that has swallowed much of Europe in an avalanche of socialism." We are the generation that will set the stage for the future of this nation! Can you feel the patriotic blood pumping through your body, heating up your desire to be part of something far greater than yourself, greater than anything that you have ever experienced before? Take a deep breath, sharing the air of all the patriots that came before you. Let it energize your soul. Breathe them in and hold on to the precious life-giving air of freedom that they provided for us long ago. Then breathe that patriotic-tainted air out with the knowledge that you will be sharing those molecules with millions of others. Now, with a sigh of peacefulness, stand up and proclaim to the room, to the town or city; cry it from your car as you journey to work and chant it to yourself as you carry out your daily duties this new proclamation. I AM GENERATION EX! Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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You're absolutely right Kim, and I support every word of what you just said.
My only question is, are the American people (as a whole) SMART enough, and do they have the intestinal fortutude to stand up on BOTH sides, do what's right and RID Washington of the rats.........on BOTH sides?
Or will we have to rid ourselves of the oppressors as our founders did with the British?
If it comes to that, everyone will SEE why the "paranoia", the stockpiling of arms and ammunition, why the militias, why the waving fields of "Don't Tread On Me" flags flowing across this nation.
It's only rape if you struggle. When you DON'T, and just accept what comes.............you gave it away. Pure and simple.
The time for think-tanking, encounter groups and debates is long past. This country is headed down the toilet of facism. Our rights are being dealt away and the government thinks we all work for THEM now.
This CANNOT continue on its current course if we are to keep this a free nation for ourselves and our children. It's just not going to happen, with communist-minded bureaucrats all over Capitol Hill.
We're running out of time. We're all debating over which fire hydrant to use, or which engine company has the proper certification dates on their hoses..................meanwhile, the house that's on fire is burning to the ground.
"Political correctness" would be to FOLLOW OUR CONSTITUTION-----------as each politician in Washington has sworn to do. You don't get to make up your own rules as you go along, or only adhere to the parts of the Constitution you happen to agree with.
There really shouldn't be any debate at all, folks...............
Constitution
Bill of Rights
Declaration of Independence
Nowhere in these documents does it provide "exceptions" or other options.
You raise your right hand, and if you can't keep that oath, you need to be GONE. There's no debate on that!......or have we finally reached that point where promises and oaths don't mean anything anymore?
This country will be saved only when we all quit being Democrats and Republicans, and start being AMERICANS once again.
Push comes to shove, it'll fall once again to the musket. Glenn Beck doesn't want that to happen, but I don't see us doing it any other way. I think most Dems will sit in their own refuse before they'll vote any of THEIR crooks out of office like OUR side does from time to time (And Walt Minnick is proof of that). Idaho is a GOP state but we replaced Sali with Minnick and re-elected Governor Andrus every time he ran).
If the Dems would JOIN us in throwing ALL the bums out, there's be a turn-around in this country you wouldn't believe.
........and that's why I think it's gonna fall to the musket. But SOMETHING better happen pretty soon.
I'll have to check and see how many swearing in ceremonies I find. Would like to see if each of our congressmen and women had their fingers crossed when they took their oath.
And they take the SAME oath we took in the military at every enlistment and RE-enlistment. Violate the UCMJ and you get court-martialled.
What happens to lying politicians, besides getting a free pass from the media (if you're a Democrat)?
Well, everyone, it's been fun reading all the posts and comments on Kim's blog over the last few weeks.
I was drawn to the blog in an effort to learn a bit more about the points of view of individuals who were disappointed in the cards that have been dealt over the years.
It appears that many of you are disappointed in our government for a wide variety of reasons and, the last election made many of you more fearful than you may have been before the election. Following Kim's "Generation Ex" post, it's sadly evident that some of you may suffer from a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are. That's not a comment meant to dissuade you from appealing to others to understand and aid in a resolution to the concerns you perceive. However, if any of you are making efforts to persuade others to your point of view, as opposed to just pat each other on the back by reaffirming each others posts, many of your efforts at persuasion are wasted in abusive, tired rhetoric. The comments made are primarily evocative (looking backwards), provocative, (move to anger)and, minimally, if at all, persuasive.
While many of you have a healthy respect for the work of our founders, and want to go "back" to the Constitution, it is clear that few of you appreciate the inspiringly eloquent persuasion that was crafted by Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison, to urge the voters of the state of New York to ratify our Constitution. The Federalist Papers offer an insight to the profoundly wise mindset of these statesmen and offer a source of confidence in our system, even in our day. After reading the Federalist Papers, one no longer needs interpretation of the Constitution from the likes of Beck, Hannity, Colmes, Maddow, Olberman, Limbaugh, Savage, O'Reilly, Maher, Joe Wilson, etc., etc.
Good Luck in your "struggle".
No matter the regime, large scale changes are not always embraced. No matter how ineffective the regime, it is time-consuming and expensive to reconfigure an institution. I like that people care. I may not agree with their reasoning but that is beside the point. Apathy is the worst thing that we can have as a society. Apathy is what caused the fall of the Roman Empire. Not saying that we should aspire to that but its a worthy example.
The Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence are not difficult at all to "interpret." They don't spsn a thousand pages, requiring a hundred lawyers to desipher the contents.
They clearly say what government CAN and CANNOT do, and were specifically drawn up to PREVENT the kind of crap that's going on right now.
By the People, Of the People and For the People.
NOT "by permission of the powers that be."
The PEOPLE are WIDE AWAKE now.............and not a moment too soon.
If some of you folks out there would go to your local library, and READ those three grand parchments our founding fathers drew up, WITHOUT the help of websites, class professors, CNN and Yes-FOX.............read them all by yourselves, and you'll find them not difficult at all to comprehend.
It only gets confusing when the media, the politicians and agenda-driven tutors get involved.
The same rules that applied to George Washington and his bunch, apply to Barack Obama and HIS.
It's just a damned shame that the CITIZENS have to CALL these bums on these issues and DEMAND they do the jobs we hired them to do.
It's DISGRACEFUL that the Constitution even has to be brought to their attention...........they are SUPPOSED TO KNOW what's "ok" and what ISN'T. That's one of the reasons we SEND them there.
But they've been counting for decades now on YOU and I NOT knowing our rights......and when you don't know what your rights are, you don't have any.
They flourish as they have, because they've been able to by and large convince us to just trust and believe what they say....
And what the hell.......as long as we've got our 52-inch plasma screen, SUV and a paycheck.............."life is good--------it's ALL good".............right?
That ain't flying anymore (see Washington D.C., Saturday, Sept 12, 2009).
We are all on here because we think that we have the answer. We offer some wisdom or expertise to benefit the masses (or at least we think that we do). Most of us on here are rather clear and coherent. Yet for the same issue, we post many different views of the same thing. Not one of them is the definitive, absolute solution. The point is that no matter how flawed the institution, it does not transform overnight. Change takes persistence and time. This frustrates people but we are not always intelligent and rational.
bazookaman, you've apparently misquoted Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.
"By the People, Of the People and For the People" appears nowhere in The Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence .
What are the specific Constitutional issues that you take issue with?
I know you don't like the term "czars", which is not an official job title for any of those individuals currently holding those positions.
Those positions have official job titles, and believe it or not, many of the appointees are accountable to the Cabinet Secretaries. Many of these appointees are responsible for coordinating policies between other departments, so that our resources are more effectively utilized.
For example, if this sort of approach had been in place between our domestic and foreign intelligence services prior to 9/11, it may have been lawful for our domestic and foreign intelligence services to exchange information.
No, the Gettysburg address has nothing to do with the Constitution. It's just a phrase that most people know, and what it means HERE in this blog, is that it is US, not THEM who are to decide our fate.
What parts of the Constitution? Let's start with the 1st Amendment, and the Mark Lloyds of this world who seek to eliminate it, and the White House staff who label housewives, veterans and other decent people "NAZI's" for daring to question this government.........and the ultimate plan to shutdown talk radio or tax it out of existence. (see Mark Lloyd, FCC Czar)
And the 2nd Amendment. Opposed by most Democrats including Obama, every piece of legislation aimed at disarming the honest citizens have been introduced and sponsored by Democrats.
The 10th Amendment which addresses government intervention into states rights.
The 14th Amendment does not provide amnesty for illegal aliens.
The 16th Amendment lacks an enabling clause. Tax system illegal as hell.
Article 1, Section 8: ie:
Taxes used for OUR defense and welfare, not everyone else's
CONGRESS coins money, and regulates the value. There is no provision for a federal reserve or IRS
CONGRESS declares war, not the president (see Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan)
Article 1 Section 9: No money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in Consequence of appropriations made by law, and a regular STATEMENT AND ACCOUNT of Receipts and Expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time. (Read this one again and think on it a bit!)
Declaration of Independence: (2nd half of third paragraph) "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government.
And let's not forget the 4th Amendndment, as it applies to Big brother, at Katrina, and a hundred other places via the BATF.
And the Oath to this country is basically the same, from a buck private to the president.
Good job Bazooka!
Dave, Sun Zu said you must know your enemy and to never start a battle you haven't already won. Seems like sound advice before youset Bazooka off on the constitution again.
As I said earlier, this is not a personal slam against Obama, as Congress has ignored our founders for some time now, but he has CLEARLY added TO it since he's been in office.
The people are tired of ALL of them. And so am I. They need to be gone before WE are.
.......and the oath is just as clear...........
"I do dolomnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
On April 29th, 1789, George Washington added "so help me God.".............which means nothing to these heathens today.
....."preserve, protect and defend the CONSTITUTION"............."
Could it be any plainer?
They all swear the oath of office. The president swears it on live television in front of the whole country.
There's no "gray area" here, Gentleman. Just like your wedding vows......."you DO or you DON'T."
.....And when these bums feel no obligation to follow our Constitution, I have no legal or moral obligation to follow THEM, and neither do any of YOU.
Unless of course, you're just one of the "sheeples", in which case, you just get into line and follow the Pied Piper out of town.
Typo---------"SOlEMNLY", not "dolemnly"----too early this morning!
I think that certain individuals like the title, "extremist". It draws attention to them. Its kind of like the kid in 8th grade that shows up one day with a mohawk. They only do it so that you will look their way. Now, you might criticize them or whatever but at least in this case you read the next sentence.
"An Open Letter to Barack Hussein Obama and the US Congress and Senate.
By James Wynne aka jdubya57 August 25, 2009
WE The People of the United States of America,
WE who revere and cherish our God given unalienable rights as stated in our Declaration of Independence,
WE who revere and cherish our Constitution, our Bill of Rights and the rule of law embodied therein,
WE The People do hereby inform you once again that,
WE all have had enough of your unconstitutional and unrepresentative ways.
WE are sick and tired of the den of thieves that Washington DC has become!
WE call it the District of Corruption!
WE know you do not care about upholding your sacred oath to our beloved Constitution. You have ignored your sacred oath and spat on our Constitution once too often.
WE know you have no intention to preserve, protect and defend her against all enemies, foreign or domestic, so help you God!
WE know we've been lax in keeping you under OUR control. Well, those days are OVER! You have awoken the Liberty Loving Patriots and,
WE ARE SILENT NO LONGER!
WE know who ALL of you are and,
WE WILL defeat you at the ballot box in 2010, 2012 and 2014. You can COUNT on it!"
Quick reply, it's late.
Regarding the 2nd amendment Ex-Chief Justice Warren Burger stated,"Americans also have a right to defend their homes, and we need not challenge that. Nor does anyone seriously question that the Constitution protects the right of hunters to own and keep sporting guns for hunting game any more than anyone would challenge the right to own and keep fishing rods and other equipment for fishing -- or to own automobiles. To "keep and bear arms" for hunting today is essentially a recreational activity and not an imperative of survival, as it was 200 years ago. "Saturday night specials" and machine guns are not recreational weapons and surely are as much in need of regulation as motor vehicles."
In an issue related to states rights, the Supreme Court consistently ruled that the Second Amendment restricts only the federal Congress, and not the States, in the regulation of guns.
The US Supreme Court has affirmed the decision that struck down the D.C. gun law. It also clarified the scope of the 2nd amendment stating that it stipulates an individual right, whether you are a member of a militia. However, the Supreme Court made it clear that like other rights, the right to bear arms is not without limitations, leaving open the prospect of reasonable governmental regulation.
The constitutionality of the Sixteenth Amendment has been upheld when challenged. And numerous courts have recognized that the Sixteenth Amendment authorizes a non‑apportioned direct income tax on United States citizens and that the federal tax laws as applied are valid.
The 14th Amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Clearly, the clauses define "citizens of the United States". However, other far reaching clauses, "nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.". These clauses distinctly refer to "any person", i.e. All people are entitled to due process and equal protection, not just "citizens of the United States".
The Supreme Court didn't write our Constitution. Our founding fathers did. There are nine members on that court, and every one of them has their own ideas. But thst don't make it so. I respect the Constitution as written, and considering it was written, coming off a REVOLT that just threw off an OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT, I have to believe our founders had a hell of a lot CLEARER picture, than our bureaucrats do today.
We've never had to take our freedoms back....................yet.
They DID, and set up a good government that put us to the world's forefront, until recent administrations....
They KNEW what they were doing. Our Supreme Court, like the rest of government, is paid for. I don't trust ANYBODY back there, which is why I, like so many others today, are calling for a complete CLEAN-OUT of theat rat's nest in D.C.
Now, if the voters will just UNITE on BOTH sides, and THINK before they vote (which WOULD be a novel approach), maybe we can turn this crap around, and American can be AMERICA again.
Hey Whyarentyoulistening: I am listening! Great post. What a profound letter. I wonder what they would do if they got that one a million times? Actually, in a way, I guess they have gotten this letter with all of the protesters on Capital Hill and all over the country. But having a letter like that in black and white on paper being sent to the White House in the millions would be pretty powerful. Thanks again for sharing it. (Time: 9:34am Day off from work)
Dave......."The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation"
This is an "enabling clause" Check the Amendments before and after the 16th.
What we know today as "witholding", was originally called the Victory Tax, to help fund our efforts in World War II.
That tax was REPEALED May 29, 1944. Didn't know that? Neither did anybody else............almost.
Do a little homework in this area, and you'll be both surprised and enraged at whaT YOU FIND.
The 14th............exactly right.....it pertains to those LEGAL to be here, and there is still some concern about Obama himself, and rumor has it, there is something very solid on its way.
And the 2nd Amendment? No ruffles, flourishes or open-ended rhetoris here either.............what part of "shall NOT be INFRINGED" are the liberals having trouble with? Even Webster's is pretty specific about that word.
How did that old jogging chant at Pendleton go?...................
"I don't want no teenage queen.......
I just want my M-Fourteen....................."
Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes pursuant to Article 1, Section 8, Clause
18 of the Constitution.
Note that the 14th amendment states, "...nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." This clause refers to ANY person (making no mention of whether that person is a "citizen of the United States), where the preceding clauses refer to "citizens of the United States"
Now my view on the 2nd amendment. I look at it this way; If I'm driving down the road, stop or yield signs along the road don't really infringe on my liberty of movement. I can still get to where I want to go. As Chief Justice Burger stated, "... "Saturday night specials" and machine guns are not recreational weapons and surely are as much in need of regulation as motor vehicles."
But what if congress decided to tell you you could only own a Prius or Civic Hybrid? If I chose an AR15 or a chiefs special to defend myself and my family that is my choice of weapon just has it's my choice to drive a SUV versus a hybrid. Let the government control the import of cheap weapons made by communist countries but don't impinge my rights to own the weapon of my choice.
I could move about the country in a Prius or Civic. My liberty of movement would not have been infringed on.
As far as owning the weapons of our choice, I have to invoke the "..well regulated militia"
We tolerate speed limits, but speed limits do not prevent us from getting where we need to go. We have leash laws, but those leash laws don't prevent us from taking the dog for a walk.
I don't understand the last statement. You seem to be giving the okay for the government to control what you have to choose from. The governments control of those cheap imports would impinge on another's rights to choose the cheap imports.
Nowhere in the snd Amendment, does it say "with the exception of."
And in that old "militia" argument, when we go back to the core, we find our founders THEMSELVES as describing the militia as "all able-bodied men over the age of 17 years, capable of bearing arms in chaotic times."
They were referring to the MINUTEMEN.............YOU and I.............NOT the "National Guard
Your road signs, "Stop", "Yield" etc might not be infringements, but "ROAD CLOSED" or no roads at ALL, WOULD BE.
Feinstein and friends don't want AR's and such only. That's a ruse. They want them all, and many of them have said so.
The 2nd Amendment doesn't say that the people only have the right to bear certain weapons..............and only 20 rounds of musket balls...........and it has to be dis-assembled and locked in a safe.
It says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Period.
Hey...........I trust MYSELF and my neighbors a hell of a lot more than I trust this government..............and this government can have Abrahms tanks, Apache helicopters and F-15's!
I've taken the same oath as that F-15 jock, and I've done it on SEVERAL occasions. Just becsause he works for the government, doesn't give him anymore rights as an American than I have.
If he can buzz around at mach-two with a gatling gun, sidewinder missiles and 500-pounders, I can damned sure tote a rifle and sidearm.
There's a REASON the government is trying to disarm the citizens. The same one Stalin had, and Hitler had, and Castro had...........and several other despots. You cannot CONTROL those who have the means to resist.
They even think they're gonna get us to LIST what weapons we might have on our TAX forms next year! I've never seen so much sneaking, backdoor crap in my life.
This current regime is the most corrupt, underhanded, un-AMERICAN pack of congressional LIARS in our country's history. (and I'm not Wilson---------I'm not apologizing to ANYBODY for that!)
And NOW, Obama is appeasing the RUSSIANS! THE RUSSIANS-----------WHO voted for this A-hole???
Did you see that special report last night out in California's San Juaquin Valley? All that farmland has dried up because the feds have shut off the water-----------
----reason?
the little 2-inch smelt are getting caught in the waterpumps, and the "TREE HUGGERS" have got them on an endangered list now............
So now, there are THOUSANDS out of work, the land has turned into a dustbowl.......a U.S. area that normally produces 40% of most of the vegetables in this country...............which are now going to cost MORE, and a lot of our food will start coming from China..............maybe......if they don't call in our debt notes.
But that's OK, folks.........."We done saved them SMELTS!", eh?
Thousands of once-productive farm workers out there now stand in food bank lines to keep from starving, while Nancy Pelosi won't lift a finger to prod Obama or anyone else..............and this is in HER OWN HOME STATE!
Famed entertainer Paul Rodriguez is doing all HE can, Governor "Arnold" is jumping up and down on Washington, but the leftwing wackos and their friggin' smelt are obviously more important than thousands of PEOPLE---------------MILLIONS actually, when you consider EVERYBODY in this country that walks into a grocery store.
The Democrat Party STINKS of corruption. There are a handful of Republicans too, that are no better.
Dave, nothing personal, but I for one don't CARE what your government thinks it's going to do. Our rights to liberty, freedom and pursuit of happiness are GOD GIVEN, not GOVERNMENT GRANTED.
If I want to drive a 51 Studebaker, I WILL. If I want to pack a 357 Magnum on my hip, I WILL (and I do), when I come off a long dirt road with a stop sign at the end, and you can CLEARLY see NOTHING for a mile in each direction, I'm not coming to a "full and complete" just because some damned sign says "I have to."
A personal friend of mine got one of those sample census forms, that 28-pager that wants to know your mortgage value, bank balance and what time you leave for work. He naturally only filled out the portions that asked how many people live there (which is what the census is about-------screw ACORN). He mailed it in, and they promptly called him and said he HAD to provide EVERYTHING they asked.
(This is a public blog, so I won't tell you word-for-word what he said). Anyway, he did NOT play into this facist movement, and may GOD help the "census takers" who come to MY door, wanting to know anything beyond my name and number of occupants!
I'm sick of this whole fiasco that's going in in America. Apparently, subservience is still ok with some of you out there, as I read these various blogs, and if you're ok with that, fine.
I was BORN and AMERICAN and will die NO LESS than one. And FINALLY.............it appears that I am no longe alone on that!
One interesting side note. The "patriots" that everyone here holds in such high regard were merchants. The men who revolted against Britain were not farmers, blacksmiths, servants, or other unskilled, salt-of-the-earth types. They were middle-class, highly-educated, well-versed men that felt that the colonies could be autonomous. This autonomy would benefit them greatly. So they acted on their own self-interest not some epic, grandiose, heart warming, selfless motive. They wanted unfettered access to this new continent that had seemingly unlimited resources. So they were profit-seeking, rational businessmen after all. Hmmm.. not something that one makes a movie out of.
They also wanted the "oldtime Big Brother" out of their lives. They didn't want a KING.
Neither does any correct-thinking modern day American.
How do you see a closed road or no road at all preventing you from going where you wish?
In the overall picture, I don't.
That's why, like the rest of my American brothers, I'm not going to allow THIS government, nor any OTHER to "relieve" me of any of my rights.
The "closed road" also forces a detour, a substitute if you will. Our Constitution is a "road" that NO ONE has any right to try to close.
In the case of the 2nd Amendment, no sane citizen is going to give up his firearms, and leave himself defenseless against criminals, an invasion, or a rogue government.
Everybody. at least ONE time in their lives, has seen the Chinese students hurling rocks at Soviet built tanks in the great square............not exactly an even exchange.
This "gun control" concept has NEVER been about guns.
It's about control. Anybody who doesn't see that is selectively blind.
We in the shooting fraternity have been saying that for years, and it is coming to pass right now.
In THIS regime alone, we are seeing TAKEOVERS.
In this regime alone, we are seeing COMMUNISTS in the White House
In this regime alone they are trying to FORCE people to take vaccinations
In this regime alone, they propose to FINE you if you don't buy health insurance
In this regime alone, they are trying to STIFLE free speech
In this regime alone, they are trying to use the census to FORCE intrusive information from the citizens
Pry, demean, snoop, threaten..........
..........some of you out there have chastised me over these many months for daring to compare the "Annointed One's" government with Hitler's Third Reich...........
WELL???????????????????????????
http://www.examiner.com/x-2320-Baltimore...
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/we...
I didn't see the feature on the smelt. As far as the smelt go, well, I suppose everyone has a feature of our world that they would like to see passed on the their children and grandchildren.
Whether or not Pelosi was involved, from what I've read, this may be a states' rights issue since it involved the states endangered species act. It appears the US FWS determined that the smelt didn't qualify for protection under the Federal Endangered Species Act.
Maybe not, but the Feds have turned the San Juaquin Valley farmlands into a giant dustbowl.
Nancy Pelosi?............When the House voted to shut off funds to ACORN, SHE wasn't even aware that the Senate already HAD!
Who the hell put HER in charge of anything in the first place?
And how about this Cass Sunstein "Czar".............THIS nut thinks ANIMALS should have lawyers and be able to sue HUMANS..............who SCREENS these "appointees", Nancy Pelosi?
And who is PAYING for all these "positions?" (3 guesses and the first 2 don't count!)
I see the free speech issue comes up quite a bit throughout the posts. The subject of some of these posts is hard to nail down, since they tend toward a rambling, disjointed dissertation.
But, here are a couple of interesting articles regarding free speech.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
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Oh yeah.............and McCain-Feingold is one of the reasons McCain doesn't have support from his "base".
Those of us who are TRUE right-wingers have never considered him to be "one of us", and the only reason he got as many votes as he DID manage, was Sarah Palin. To many of us, there was always a glimmer of hope that if McCain won the election, and something happened to him where he couldn't complete his term, Palin would be there to step up, and we WOULD have an honest to God Republican in there.
When I lived in Arizona, I was proud to be a part of the McCain RECALL movement, which started after he proposed shutting down gunshows, like the true Kennedy-loving Democrat he really IS. I still have my campaign button anytime anybody wants to see it.
Only 9/11 stopped the movement, when everyone's priorities quickly changed.
I was heavily upset and disappointed when the GOP nominated him, when we COULD have gone with Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney.........and I told people THEN............"we just gave it away. It's gonna be one Democrat against the other in November." And for the first time in my life, I was prepared to sit this one out and not vote at all.
I was surprised McCain had sense enough to pick Sarah to run with him. The press naturally went after her with axes, because NOW, it might not be so easy for THEIR candidate, even stooping to the level of going after her kids..............say what you will about FOX, but THEY wouldn't do that. Out of respect for John Edwards' cancer-stricken wife, they didn't steam roll on his affair.
That wouldn't have stopped CNN, had the situation been reversed. "Fair and balanced" is a prime reason FOX has now put the rest of them in the cellar for ratings.
If you want "feel good" news, go with the liberal media. If you actually want to know what's going on, watch FOX.
And Mark Lloyd is living proof of this administration's goal to shut down free speech.
Check out what he says and what he plans to do, if you folks out there have any doubts.
FOX is just as biased as everyone else. They are slaves to the bottom line just like every other company ever put into existence.
I agree with Dave. Alot of these (including some of mine) break down into emotional tirades that lose sight of the point. Objectivity is a lost art on some but we cant expect all to embrace this.
Are you kidding? FOX CONSISTENTLY has liberal guests on their panels to get BOTH views. They have Juan Williams, Bob Beckert (I think that's how he spells it), Alan Coombs, they had Al SHARPTON on there last night----------------hell, Geraldo Rivera has his OWN SHOW on that network, and there are FEW people more liberal that HE is!
Can you picture Rush on Blitzer's show? or Michael Savage as a guest on NBC?
Sean Hannity has invited Obama on his show SEVERAL times, both before and after the election, but he has never accepted. He did interviews with every other network BUT FOX over this past weekend.
No mystery THERE, though. Obama KNOWS he wouldn't get the free pass everyone else gives him, and he would be asked some TOUGH questions for once, that he might not have answers to on his teleprompter.
Objectivity is fine, until it puts the country in peril. Just like in combat, you don't always have time to weigh options, you do or you die.
There is a potential "hammer & sickle" hanging over America, and we had better NOT "lose sight of THAT point." You know Twil, if there was some guy threatening my life or well being, I wouldn't try to "see it from HIS side." He would quickly become a statistic....rather than becoming one myself.
In these political debates, there is too much going on for you guys to "reason or ration around."
Come on man, all of these government takeovers, trying to FORCE "free people" to do things whether they want to or not, trying to censor those who speak out against the regime, running up monumental debt while THEY continue to live lavishly at our expense, voter fraud, shutting off water to large food producing valleys putting smelt ahead of food bank lines, and NOW making one-sided deals with the Russians?
Come on Twil..............are you telling me that you guys on the left are so loyal to that party, you don't feel their hands in YOUR pockets as well?
And this latest deal with the Russians has discredited America in the eyes of our allies (if we have any left besides the Israelis. Makes us appear to be PUSH-OVERS now in the eyes of our most powerful adversaries.
The Soviets have PROVEN time and again that they CANNOT be trusted. Man, you NEVER, EVER back down and "appease" the "Evil Empire" (as Reagan rightfully called them-------and didn't "apologize" for it either).
Bill Clinton wasn't that great of a leader, but even HE knew better than to make any "deals" with the Reds. I've never liked that guy, but I've gotta give credit where it's due.
And you're right. You can't expect ALL of us to embrace this!
Incidently.......When one has to constantly look things up on websites, that's a pretty good indication that your news source isn't telling you things you need to know.
Hey, just the other day, when the House voted to defund ACORN, your speaker Princess Nancy admitted that she didn't even KNOW that the SENATE had just DONE that a few days before.
Since she's RIGHT THERE in D.C. and doesn't know what's going on, maybe SHE should tune in to FOX as well.
Would you think 100,000+ Americans marching on the Capital would be a significant thing to perspectively cover? FOX did.
The Dems are supposed to be the "party of the people"..........well, thousands of PEOPLE are out of work and standing in food bank lines all over California's San Juaquin Valley, and some of you didn't know anything about it until I brought it up the other day. Where was NBC?
A bunch MORE of you knew nothing about the ACORN scandal until a week or so later. Where was YOUR network?
But if Sarah Palin was to get a parking ticket, CNN would be on it like "ugly on an ape", desperately trying to figure out a way to display her intense disregard for the laws of whatever state she was in at the time!
Oh yeah..............they'd cover THAT!
NO media venue should EVER be in a politician's pocket. Do they teach JOURNALISM at BSU? If so, ask an even-balanced professor up there about that..........if you can find one.
I have an exam to prep for but I am not a party slave. I grew up with two parents who could not care less about politics. I made up my own mind on things.
All media has bias. Simple, cold truth is boring and does not sell. Black and white news without the extra albeit unnecessary emotion is boring. Boring your audience into a trance does not sell. You can figure that one out, I would presume.
Savage may have some decent points but he is brilliant at looking stupid. I would not disgrace my network with having him on. He is all emotional, over-the-top, bigotry. For those who enjoy his tirades, fine.
Have you opened your eyes and figured out that this is not the trenches of eastern France in WWI. Hmmmm... I have been here 31 years and there are no oppressive Maoist regimes here. There might be in the future, who knows. Being objective helps if you're to convince someone. You might try it. The world does not revolve around your values. Just because we are not gun-slinging, disgruntled, salt-of-the-earth types does not mean that we are inferior.
I dont like alot of the current admins. decisions. I can look at them logically and not be paranoid and think that every move is a conspiracy. Not every decision is that interesting. Overreacting to political blunders seems like a waste of energy. If it comes to a life or death situation, then I am sure that I can adapt and make due. Humans always have and always will.
Hey guys,
Went to Rupert for the POW/MIA Memorial Rally. Got to see a lot of vets from 4 different wars. My buddy got me invovled with the Patriot Guard Riders. We escorted the family of Cpl. Max Bailey into town and around the square in Rupert. Cpl. Bailey was a MIA from the Chosin Resevoir in Korea. Saturday we gave the family some closure. If you've never seen a military rites service or a POW dining table ceremony then you've missed out on great tradtion. I know belong to a brotherhood who live to support and protect the families of those who are returning home to be laid to rest.
If you go to the PGR website you will see the numerous missions this group does in honor of those who have fallen. While reading through it all I sit here and wonder why some people on this planet choose to show up at a solemn event to PROTEST. The person being carried to their final rest DIED to protect the right given to them in the constition of free speech. But always remember that your freedom has been paid for by those patriots willing to stand up agains the tyranny of oppression.
Found a great quote by Mark Twain on one of the PGR blogs that sums up a lot of what I see in these blogs;
"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a
scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his
cause succeeds however, the timid join him,
For then it costs nothing to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
Sound familiar?
It's gonna cost if we DON'T do something pretty soon.
Sounds like a good thing to be a part of, Bouncer. I'm glad you got to participate in that. Great cause.
As for "party slaves" Twil, that fits YOUR side of the tracks better than it does mine. Maybe not you PERSONALLY, but you'll rarely meet a Democrat who doesn't just walk into a voting booth and fill every circle where he sees a (D), whether he's even HEARD of the candidate or not.
Having taken the time to check EVERYBODY's "history" FIRST, I've often voted for a Democrat or two at the State and local levels. I'd vote for a Democratic PRESIDENT if you guys would ever come up with anybody decent.
In FOUR of the last FIVE Prssidential elections, I've gone with the Independent candidate because they were CLEARLY better choices than WE or the Democrats were running at the time. Ya need to put "country" FIRST. Screw the party, if it isn't right and in your heart you KNOW it isn't.
"31 years", and you don't see anything wrong with these takeovers, attacks on freedom of speech, trying to force citizens to do things against their will?
Signing unread bills worth TRILLIONS is ok with you? Voter fraud is acceptable?
Is legalizing illegals, leaving the borders open and spending another 20 million to bring Palestinian refugees over here GOOD for our security?
And Twil, I didn't risk my neck for 22 years, so that pig-faced communist in the White House could lower our flag by apologizing to the world and make one-sided concessions to the G.D. Russians!
He is allowing Holder to "pull the teeth" from the CIA, and NOW they have the friggin' nerve to warn the ISRAELIS against flying over our "Iraqi Airspace" to get to Iran!
ISRAEL................the ONLY true ally we have. The only ones who would back US on a moment's notice. Iran is threatening them on a daily basis, and WE would hamper Israel from doing something about it?
This is THEIR neighborhood, and we have no business there. The Israelis need to tell Obama where to stuff it, and OUR pilots need to be AMERICANS, and NOT fly to intercept the only friends we have left.
Twil......if YOU lived in Israel, where Iran was threatening to blow you off the planet, and lived close enough to DO it, how "objective" would you be? We now know that they are at the doorstep of having what they need.........ok?...........
The Russians (you rememmber THEM, don't you?.....the RUSSIANS, the ones Obama is now bowing to?), the RUSSIANS are continuing to SUPPLY Iran with weaponry and a "little technology"
Now, AMERICA, who you once thought was on YOUR side, is telling you from halfway around the world that you can't DO anything about that "bully" in your own neighborhood.
What do you do, Twil? Sit back and try to see both sides "objectively" and wait for the missiles to come in? Too late to make a decision THEN, pal!
Same as our situation here in the states. Look at what they've done in just the first nine months. There is no reason to believe anything is going to change. As long as we do nothing but "debate", the takeovers and intrusions are going to continue. What's to stop it?............nothing the Feds can see!
Obama lies freely, and anyone who calls him on it is either a "racist", a "Nazi".....or BOTH!
Harry Reid used to stand up in front of Congress and openly call Bush a MORON! Nothing was said said about THAT of course. Reid was right, Bush WAS inept, but even if for no other reason than out of respect for the OFFICE, where was YOUR media then? Don't be telling me about FOX.
Where rogue, corrupt, out-of-control governments are concerned, "OBJECTIVITY" is just a word in Webster's, somewhere between oaf and orangutan.
When it all hits the fan buddy, you might not have TIME to "adapt and make do."
But........I'm gonna be too busy to look out for you guys. Just keep your head down and try to be polite when they come for ya.
Hey Bouncer, can you imagine if Will Travis had been a liberal? I can picture it now, leaning over at Crockett while he scanned out at the multitudes, and he'd be saying something like.............."Give 'em a chance, Davy.....they might just be here lookin' for work!"
When I arrived in Da Nang to start my tour back in '67, I remember an old Gunny who told us new guys, "when in doubt, empty the magazine!"
Still makes sense to me today.
Have you watched the Killing Fields or The Thin Red Line? Well those fine films show what oppressive Maoist regimes are like. You can be ignorant or delusional all you want but life is not like that depicted in those films. It may be in the future, who knows? You nor anyone else ever born can predict that. Today's current mess could or could not result in a situation like that. Bush's regime infringed upon civil liberties and I heard the same doomsday, conspiracy theory, end of the world garbage. Well it has not happened yet.
Subjectivity lends one to overreacting. Did Dith Pron escape the death camps of the Khmer Rouge by overreacting. No, he got out by outsmarting them. Being proud and ignorant would have resulted in a sure death. Oh sure, grabbing one of their guns and putting on his best G.I Joe war hero act would have been inspiring but only for about 10 seconds then he would have dissolved in a rice patty just like the other million.
Your posts remind me of a fire-breathing, repent-or-die preacher that relies on fear and uncertainty. Not one shred of his message can be proven but by God does he goes on about it. One can not be disproven but also there is nothing to back this up. If life is going to break down into all out, bloody Revolution like Red Dawn, I am sure that humans can adapt. Regardless of race, religion, and nationality they always have.
I dont like the current regimes methods as I have stated numerous times. I have written letters to Senators and such. No, I am not going to grab a gun and do my best Micheal Collins impersonation. I would rather contribute to change than perish or whither in prison for nothing. Passion does not need to have a pistol in his right hand. It might make some feel like more of a man but I need not such items.
Finally, Israel should be free to do whatever it feels is best for it. I dont support us financially propping them up. Donations from the US provide for around 25% of their GDP. They are an independent country so why are we supporting them?
No, I watch very few movies these days, because what does HOLLYWOOD know about anything?
The reason "nothing has happened yet" is because we haven't shown ourselves to be weak until Obama took over.
What civil liberties did the Bush regime infringe upon?
The U.S. supports the lion's share of the ANTI-American U.N., we blow money helping countries all over the world who spit on us behind our backs. Our tax dollars support the crooks in D.C., outfits like ACORN, all these Congressional perks, and we bail-out the huge incompetent corporations.
If we AREN'T going to pull funds from the THIEVES, why withdraw help from our only true allies, who WILL take care of the Iranian problem, that WE don't seem to have the stomach to do?
Tell me.............do you support helping anybody BESIDES Israel? I say if we cut THEM, we cut them ALL.............no more wasteful college grants either, studying the sex habits of the South African Swamp Rat and such. No aids support, no money at ALL going overseas.
EVERY TAX DOLLAR used exclusively for US and no one else. Nothing for ACORN, illegals, and deadbeats who won't work.
Support that?
Didn't think so.
Help is one thing but supporting them is another. Possibly lower our support for them but not eliminate it. They should live or die on their own accord.
It seems that you admire them because of their militarized state. Kind of like a modern day Sparta. One that rewards courage, decisiveness, and loyalty regardless of how wrong or right it is. That's fine but I would not keep funneling our resources to a cause like that. The conflict will never end. Religion is subjective by nature and so there is no winning the argument. Both sides are too ignorant to ever come to an agreement.
Tax dollars and how to spend them is a debate that will never end. No matter the regime, there will always be some that complain. The trick is finding a balance that benefits more than it harms. Taxation is not inherently bad. The percentage of income (personal and national) that goes to it is the item of contention.
Patriot Act? Stem Cell research? Buying Prescription Drugs in Canada? Bush had a track record of infringing on selective liberties. I read many doomsday, conspiracy theory rants and yet we are still here.
I support helping countries where we will see some return on the investment. That may take time as all things do. Simply giving them millions or billions simply for goodwill is wasteful. The supply of money or resources is not infinite. It will become scarce eventually. Why get into a financial crunch when you dont need to?
Obama promised "change" didn't he? Isn't that what he kept harping on?
Yes, Bush and his congress continued a lot of "business as usual" with the wasteful spending. But according to the libs, Obama and his crew were supposed to be SMARTER than that, weren't they?
Obama's "change" has been to blow the deficit SKY HIGH now.................is THAT the "change?" HELL NO......it's STILL "business as usual" except now it's on STEROIDS!
What Israeli "cause" do you mean? Their "cause" is to keep from being hammered by a country DEDICATED to burying them. And if there ever WAS someone we should back, it's THEM.
You wanna know where the financial crunch comes from? The uncontrolled spending by the government for GARBAGE projects, and unnecessary perks and pork.
Helping allies who will be THERE for you is one thing. Pouring money into the hands of every foreign hand that's put forth to you is quite another.
The "Blame Bush" thing doesn't hold water. Your side is "supposed to be wiser"............isn't that why Obama got elected?
"Well Bush did this TOO!"................isn't that what your side is supposed to be CHANGING?
And you guys HAVE the numbers to do whatever you want without Republican interference.
Obama is going further than Bush ever thought of!
You can't blame Bush for ANYTHING, when YOUR guy is even WORSE, passing unread bills, taking over factories and banks, forcing people to do things against their will........pushing us to SOCIALISM
Did Bush do THAT too?
You guys were supposed to be the FIX, the CHANGE, and you EVEN have the Oval Office, the Senate and the House!
Obama's out their digging himself a hole, with no scapegoats............he's screwing it all up......and as the Beatles might say..........."With a little help from my friends."
This is not a blame game and if you would finish reading the sentence you would know better. My point is that I read or hear about all this apocalyptic, end-of-civilization, revolution-is-calling ignorance from BOTH SIDES and yet it has never happened. Not one single thing that you and others have predicted has come true in any way.
In the Bush era, I heard the same rhetoric as what you post. The same over-the-top, fervent speeches saying that civilization was over and that we need to get on the right side before its too late. Sounds like someone reading the Book of Revelations. Oh but that was just an angry, possibly high on drugs, and bored individual stuck on an island in the Mediterranean venting. Hmmm.. you can believe it if you want but I stick with logic.
Wonderful.......you haven't seen any of this come true.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS STARTING TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW?? RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU! (look past the lecture podium and actually go OUTSIDE and look around).
"LOGIC" doesn't mean anything now, Twil. We live in a world of corruption, terrorism, perversion, maniacs running around with their fingers on the wrong buttons, we live among the sick and twisted, we're on the verge of LOSING EVERYTHING WE HAVE, bud.............everything past generations have fought and died for...........everything the country used to STAND for.
LOGIC is a GOOD THING, but it just doesn't WORK in this current mess, because we are the only people willing to use it.............AND NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO PLAY!
We're being robbed and sold out at the same time. You can't see it because it's primatily YOUR side that's doing the damage, along with help from a few of OURS.
The college professors need to RESIGN for a year or so, go out into the real world, find real jobs and get a taste of reality before they go back to teaching rhetoric and theory.
And a BUNCH of them need to be in uniform, and be OUT THERE with the "bad guys" we so fervently need to "understand." Let them go teach "doctrine" to a nut with an AK-47, and see how compassionate they think we ought to be THEN.
Don't know if I ever mentioned it in these blogs over the last 2 or 3 years, but O.J. Simpson and I went to Galileo High School together, and lived about 4 blocks apart in the Potrero Hill District of San Francisco, one of the toughest neighborhoods in the city.
We ran with different gangs. I'm not proud of that, but I learned enough to know that you do NOT show weakness to your enemies. There were no "economic sanctions" to be imposed ANYWHERE on Potrero Hill. A bully yesterday was still a bully today, and a good butt-kicking is the only thing he would ever understand.
My first hitch in the service was in the Marine Corps, ANOTHER outfit that doesn't straddle any fences, we either DO or we DON'T. That's why we didn't take the casualties in Vietnam that the Army did. When we got fired upon, we never radioed for permission to fire back, hoping some solution would be worked out between field commanders.
LOGIC----------to ME anyway, is to stay alive and remain free............and it doesn't matter if it's in Vietnam, Potrero Hill, or Mountain Home.
Procrastination will bite your butt sooner or later, every time.
I get it. We're different. I try to stay level headed and in control. My parents and my grandparents have embodied that and done just fine in life. That is not to say that we are not stubborn and determined. Its a matter of picking our battles and focusing our energy on things that will most likely result in success.
Gearing up for an end-of-the-world revolution when the chances are about one in a trillion is lunacy. Go ahead and construct yourself a bunker and equip it with enough guns and ammo to supply an army. If that makes you feel adequate and prepared, feel free. Logic has shown that with few exceptions, radical change does not happen and when it does it does not achieve the goals of anyone. Things take time. The things that we complain about did not happen overnight. They are the results of many interactions and processes. Oh.. and your generation is not off the hook.
No Twil.............not "end of the WORLD" revolution
It's called "Trying to prevent the end of THIS country" revolution
You're right, my generation ISN'T off the hook. It IS MY generation that has allowed liberalism to flourish in this country, all in the name of "balance." And we're paying for it now.
Again it boils down to relying on faith or reason. I look at the landscape and make a decision. I dont take the rantings of a shaman or doomsday theorist and run with it.
Every generation has had flaws. Society tries to repair them, for better or for worse. One is not really better than the other. Americans are not superior to those who dwell in Angola nor anywhere else. Someone from 1700 does the best that they can with what they have and so do modern day people.
Yes, but there's no excuse for US not doing better............because we HAVE, which would indicate that we're actually CAPABLE of it.
Did you hear the "melie-mouth reply" to the nutjob's threats yesterday?
I always go out for breakfast on Saturday mornings, and when I get home, I would love nothing BETTER than to turn on FOX (the only TRUE news source), and find out that the Israelis had just blown up every nuke factory in IRAN, and one of their elite sniper teams had taken out the nutjob!
That would really make my day.
And DID YOU HEAR JOE BIDEN yesterday? Told the press that the stimulous has worked much better than even HE had dreamed of!
Oh REALLY, Joe? Everytime Biden opens his mouth, you can see why Obama picked him for V.P.
Liberal idiot.