Its time again

This will probably be the most important election in our lifetimes, Joe. I know I don't want America to become like the failed European socialist countries. I know I don't want to leave my kids with a mountain of debt to deal with the rest of their lives - ensuring they will never have the same standard of living or opportunities that we had. I think a lot of people don't understand the seriousness of what lies ahead for this country if we again vote in the same fiscally irresponsible, tax and spend into oblivion people. I always thought it was lazy and stupid for people to vote for a particular party just because their parents or grandparents did. The parties today don't even remotely resemble what they were 30 or 40 years ago.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/oct/28/midterm-election/?opinioncartoons

Vote Stratigically. Think about how to get the logs in the river moving again. Take a few out that are stopping the other log's progress.

Regardless of Party.

Hello Joe I hope you don't mind me sharing this video. I think its a good one showing where Obama and Romney stand on issues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38&feature=b-vrec

That's what happens when you let Billionaire's have a hand in elections. Super pac's need to be outlawed.

The same Billionaire a backer of Romney's told his employees,........... "Go to Romney's Rallys and if

you don't go, you will be fired."

So much for freedom........

No matter who you are or what political party that you belong too. I believe that your mother would be ashamed of your behavior if you are rude on TV to someone else.

Mr. Biden may seem to have some good answers but they were canceled out by his boorish behavior.

I believe that it was Mr. Obama that asked for civil discourse and that is just another failed policy in my book.

"hypocrisy" IS a double standard with you, bucky.

And I guess you could hit "point for point", but I guess your copy and paste button is broke.

BS

How can you say the video was dishonest without saying Romney is dishonest...Wasn't that Romney speaking on the video? Or is it he has changed his stance since he spoke on the pieced together video? The video might be pieced together but it was Romney speaking at different venues.

Who really knows what he stands for?????????

I think your empty whiskey bottle has hit the floor. Hope you don't have a hangover in the morning.............you work tomorrow Right???

KH Gal I think the smiles and laugh of Biden was very tiny compared to the substance of his answer's.

Sometimes smiles and laughter portray nervousness.

BS Of coarse you would down play my video thats what you do best... When your not insulting and playing bully.

Who knows what Romney stands for, he changes on a daily basis.

and by the way in the debate tonight Ryan was fact checked to and he also told a few false ones....

one more thing check out this link......Look what the Republicans cut

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

BS

That's the numbers I seen last night before I tuned out. Ryan 48 Biden 44

I probably won't be on again today, we had to put one of our dogs down this morning. Not the one with the brain tumor, another one same age 13 years...Kidney failure........

Seems when it rains it pours!

MsM:

So sorry about your dog. We had to put one of our cats down last weekend.

I have a dog that is getting very old too.

Bill Mahrer finally said something funny when he said (about the VP debate): "Somebody call 911 - there's an old man beating up on a kid".

I have to add to my last comment, Though I thought the comedian's comment was funny, I thought that Ryan did a great job holding his own with all the smirking, laughing and interupting by Biden. Unfortunately, probably a lot of what Ryan was saying or trying to say was lost because of all the interupting by Biden and the Moderator.

Romney as Gov of MA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/us/politics/mitt-romney-often-away-when-he-was...

HA HA I only re-posted what was posted on this site by the Newspaper this morning......

Glad you liked the RE-POST !! because its not there now, they have removed it or hidden it ......

Eagle eye,

I'm trying to figure it out--Is your post past-tense, present-tense, future-tense, or just non-sense?

Yea Mike I noticed that first thing this morning checking computer news. Was thinking the same as you and figured that was one way to take the heat off the President. I never kneww the Secretary of State didn't keep the President informed of events such as that something could be in the works. Maybe like stated last week on the News maybe Obama should be attending more of the intel briefings and find out what is going on around the world with Americans at risk.

Mike, here's another one Obama had his fingers and there goes millions more of the tax dollars.

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/battery-builder-a123-won-249-million-fede...

Its sad that America lost to South Korea. It would of been good for our Country if it had succeeded.

I love to see "Made in America"

Here this explains what happened better... my previous comment was confusing and it looks like 2 American company's were competing against each other for the batteries to be made in South Korea. Do I have that right or am I still off the mark?

It lost out on supplying batteries for the Chevrolet Volt to South Korea's LG Chem, with General Motors executives at the time citing the more established firm as a safer bet.

Latest from AP on Clinton taking blame.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/10/15/2311690/clinton-says-consulate-security...

Can you believe that the media is highlighting Paul Ryan doing a few dishes at a soup kitchen as a photo op, but strangely quiet on demanding the truth about the 4 people who died in Libya?

And the running argument is whether the dishes were really dirty or clean when he washed them?

Get real, all politicians like photo ops regardless of party.

Or the indignation that a proprietor dared to tell Mr. Obama the truth this morning about his business? He asked the question but didn't like the answer too much.

That is me being cranky today.

So true BS many of us aren't as stupid as they think we are.

People who voted for him last time saw that and remarked on it with Frank Lunce.

Crowley walked back her words on the Libya situation, but you won't see headlines about that anywhere. She was clearly wrong to interfere with the debate.

She didn't do all that great job of being non-biased either.

I thought that the questions the people asked were great. Most of them didn't get a straight answer from either man though.

Of course the mainstream media said Obama "won" the debate. I guess they think he "won" because he showed up this time and was aggressive and didn't stutter. But, as usual, he offered nothing of any substance and skirted around all the issues. He didn't answer any of the charges Romney brought up against him. He offered no plans for the next four years. He didn't give anyone a reason for wanting to give him another four. And the moderator interferring with the debate to help Obama out about the Libya issue was outrageous. And, to top it off - she was wrong!!! I'm sure she broke the debate rules and should never be allowed to moderate again. And notice how Obama got in that 47% comment right at the end when Romney didn't have a chance to respond.

yes and I apologize, I spelled Frank's last name wrong. Luntz. He asks the people directly how they feel about what has been said nor in some cases, not answered.

The undecided groups and the ones who voted for Obama are getting a chance to speak out on this issues and the lack of Detail presented by the Obama Administration.

They should have had enough time to each offer a short speech and had the debate been moderated properly, they would have.

"The only person who has seen Romney's taxes is John McCain and he took one look and picked Sarah Palin."

This is my take on last nights debate, most won't understand this video and the debate, but there are words there that apply to Obama and why he is losing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHqUMmgNdAc

When you take away the credit cards from the very people who claim to have your best interest at heart, we will see a debt reduction. No more parties, trips to Vegas or Hawaii.

No more 1st class travel or any other perks. Just the bare bones of what needs to be paid for to run your office.

Ronald Reagan's budget director on Romney's record at Bain.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-...

No panic on my part. I just posted a link.

Hey Zook and Buckshot, did you guys see the news this morning? Looks like the ACLU and NAACP has requested that the UN of all idiots monitor the elections here in NOV. News stated the people would come from other countries and take the place of our normall poll places people and do the monitoring of the election. The UN, ACLU, or NAACP has no right having anything to do with elections in this country. Sure looks more like trying to get the votes all over to the libs.

http://www.osce.org/odihr/96574

Indian Wanting Coffee:

An Indian walks into a cafe with a shotgun in one hand and pulling a male buffalo with the other. He says to the waiter:

"Want coffee."

The waiter says, "Sure Chief. Coming right up."

He gets the Indian a tall mug of coffee.....

The Indian drinks the coffee down in one gulp, turns and blasts the buffalo with the shotgun, causing parts of the animal to splatter everywhere and then just walks out.

The next morning the Indian returns.

He has his shotgun in one hand, pulling

another male buffalo with the other.

He walks up to the counter and says to

the waiter:

"Want coffee."

The waiter says, "Whoa, Tonto!

We're still cleaning up your mess from yesterday. What was all that about, anyway?"

The Indian smiles and proudly says,

"Want coffee."

"Training for position in United States Congress.

Come in, drink coffee, shoot the bull, leave mess for others to clean up, Disappear for rest of day."

VOTE IN NOVEMBER !

THE ACLU AND THE NAACP ARE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE PERVIEW OF THE USA THEREFORE THEY ARE ELGIBLE TO MONITOR THE ELECTION. SEVERAL STATES ALLOW FORGIENERS TO MONITOR.......what is the problem??? WOULD YOU BE AGAINST THE MONITORING IF IT WERE FREEDOM WORKS????? Have we forgotten that the courts have had to step in about voter disenfranchisment,to the point that they have struck down some redistricting.These are places that tried to return us to prior to 1964 voters rights act.There basis for disenfranchisment is the same as it ways then except now we labeled it democrates rather than what it is ,and that is the targeting of minority voting blocks,and you want me to believe everything is ok.....your joking right.????????

WIN LOOSE OR DRAW WE NEED A CLEAN ELECTION.As a nation we accepted the rule of law with BUSH. I would like to think AMERICA will do the same again.YES I believe in my country and she has disapointed me at times but she's mine.

I don't care how you want to cut it, you take any organization whether the ACLU, or NAACP, Acorn, ANYONE that wants to stick there fingers in this countries voting it stinks. For the ACLU or NAACP to call on the UN to bring a foreign country into our polls to monitor the voting is a bunch of bull from the word go. This Country has been doing it for alot of years without outside help and we don't need them now either. I am also in favor of having to show a photo ID to vote, Those that don't have one need to get one and I am not interested in excuses. Lamont you found out when it came Social Security time without a Birth Cert you had problems, people need to get their ducks lined up and get what it takes to vote or retire and get Social Security. and not wait until the last minutes. The lawes are changing and there is going to be more changes. The Military people know how important their DD 214 is and they need to get their act together on a Birth Cert also. There is other paper work out there that is very important to an individual and they just don't pay attention until it is needed. WAKE UP people and get your act together or be standing on the outside looking in and wonder why you got left behind.

Thats what I been saying Zook the UN is already involved and we sure as heck don't need it.

HOLD on eagle eye forgien countries have been for years been invited to monitor our elections why are you so up in arms now.IT also striks me that you only mention those organizations who lean left.Some of the biggest inviters are right leaning states what is your problem??????I did not have that birth certificate until 1961 I had to get a passport,going to japan.IT was spendy then I hate to think what it is now. I am not against the photo ID I AM AGAINST THE TIMING OF THIS ISSUE I have stated that time after time.This should have been started right after the last election for president.A national ID is needed no question.Getting a birth certificate with a raised seal is harder than you think.in ANY EVENT WE DONT HAVE AND ARGUMENT I AGREE.OUR ELECTIONS WERE A MODEL FOR THE WORLD UNTIL FLORIDA,THAT BROUGHT ALL THAT WAS BAD TO THE FORFRONT AND LEFT A BAD TASTE IN EVERYONES MOUTH SO WE ARE FEELING THE BRUNT OF IT NOW.

DONT mistake what I am saying we dont need the UN for anything AS FAR AS AND ELECTION IS CONCERNED.DEMS ARE NOT AGAINST ID THEY ARE AGAINST THE TIMING......WHY DONT YOU GET THAT?.They question and rightly so that part of it,and guess what so has the courts.They have said there appears to be and attempt to rig the election,based on who these laws target I WOULD SAY WHO THEY impact the most.I CAN SAY IT.....IT APPEARS THE RIGHT WILL DO ANYTHING TO DEFEAT THIS PRESIDENT...... TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE NATIONS INTEGRITY.HOW we think anyone should listen to us about democracy after what we have shown them in the last 3.5 yrs beats the heck out of me.But that is my opinion.THERE are bigger things than what appears on the surface......I hope were straight EAGLE EYE,ZOOK..........LATER

I believe that if the U.S. expects other nations to adhere to standards for free and open elections, the U.S. should be monitored just as those other nations may be.

Industries benefit from sharing knowledge and developing technological standards that result in benefits to all of us.

The same holds true for democracy. Observers will come here from other nations and take the best practices they find in our elections process back to their home nations and adopt those they see fit.

We need to know if elections in countries, like Egypt for example, have been conducted fairly. And nations where, for decades, citizens haven't had the right to participate in free and open elections would benefit from observing the best in action.

Not going to argue the point this is what was put into print:

The United Nations-affiliated Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will deploy election monitors around the United States on Election Day in an effort to monitor conservative groups for voter suppression or intimidation at polling places.

Led by Ambassador Daan Everts, the election monitors will include a total of 57 international experts and observers -- 13 placed in Washington, D.C. and 44 placed at polling places on other cities.

The monitors, from Europe and central Asia, will not limit their observation to noting possible violations of U.S. and sate election law. They will also "assess these elections for compliance with international obligations and standards for democratic election" and "conduct comprehensive monitoring of the media," according to a press release. (RELATED: Complete coverage of the 2012 elections)

Additionally, "the mission will meet with representatives from relevant federal and state authorities and political parties, as well as with candidates, and with representatives from the judiciary, civil society and the media."

While the international organization has assessed elections since 2002 and insists that U.S. authorities have "invited" this mission, the U.N. affiliate received significant pressure from liberal organizations such as The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the ACLU and the NAACP.

According to The Hill, the groups penned a letter to Ambassador Daan Everts this month to express concerns about "a coordinated political effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans -- particularly traditionally disenfranchised groups like minorities." The groups also met with Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe representatives in Washington Tuesday to further express this fear.

"We attended their meeting, we took note of the issued they raised and we asked our observers in the field to follow up on them," said OSCE spokeswoman Giovanna Maiola in an e-mailed statement to The Hill.

The liberal U.S. organizations complained about voter ID laws and early voting restrictions, which they believe may negatively affect minorities, low-income Americans, the elderly and women. They specifically requested election monitors be sent to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio and Texas.

Most of those states passed new voter restriction laws in the months leading up to the presidential election, meeting with differing levels of success in the courts.

In Pennsylvania, a judge concluded a new law requiring photo identification to vote was non-discriminatory and reasonable, but ruled that it could not be enforced in time for the November 6 election. In Florida, the state succeeded in purging voter rolls of non-citizens and reducing the early voting period, but judges blocked provisions restricting voter registration.

The Obama campaign prevailed in Wisconsin and Ohio, with the Wisconsin Supreme Court refusing to review a Republican-backed voter ID law that was invalidated by lower courts. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal of Ohio's plan to limit an extension of early voting deadlines for military voters only.

Foreign observers are granted selective access to polling stations in the U.S., forcing organizations like OSCE to rely on being granted permission from state and local officials to monitor polling places. OCSE plans to publish its initial findings November 7, one day after the election, with a final report on the entire electoral process coming two months later.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/united-nations-organization-set-to-monitor-us-...

EAGLE EYE.......I DONT THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE .....DO WE?????AS LEADERS WE ARE EXPECTED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE SO LET THEM OBSERVE WHATS THE PROBLEM????OR is it a problem because it is the U.N.???

The timing of the new laws is what the issue is all the rest doesnt count.I dont know of any other national initiative that was attempted nto be in place in less than 6 months do you??? eVEN STATES GIVE THEM SELVES A LEAST THAT AMOUNT OF TIME FROM PASSAGE TO IMPLEMINTATION.YOU KNOW AND I KNOW WHAT IS BEING ATTEMPTED HERE......

"The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal of Ohio's plan to limit an extension of early voting deadlines for military voters only."

That is a deceptive statement. The Obama campaign lawsuit resulted in the expansion of the extended voting period for all Ohio voters, and did not deprive military voters of any opportunity to vote early. All Ohio residents benefit equally.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/31/ohio-obama-early-voting-lawsuit_n_18218...

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/OFA-Opinion.pdf

Guess you skipped over paragraph 1, which states ( election monitors around the United States on Election Day in an effort to monitor conservative groups for voter suppression or intimidation at polling places.) why just the conservative groups the UN, ACLU, and NAACP see the liberals do NO Wrong. Somebody hasn't been paying attention to what the Libs have been doing, registering dead people to vote, register their pets and sure as heck don't want laws that require a photo ID to vote. Yes the UN is one of the big problems of the world, they have got to the point they want to control the world. I just don't see any foreign country sticking their nose into our elections. I don't remember what countries have been invited already, they weren't listed in the article I dug up from what I saw on the news, India was one of them and there was 2 more. Also we don't need to monitor other countries, you can see how well that has worked out in Iraq, Libia and the other countries we stuck our nose into. I will agree States waited until the last minute to pass laws on the Photo ID's but you have to start someplace and once this Nov election is over they get back to it and all the States get involved, we can't trust the Federal Government to fix the problem .

MY POINT EXACTLY....VOTER ID YES....document procurment and on with the show.The conservative organizations were the ones complained about that's all.The should observe and let the chips fall were they may.

The incidents you speak of was the last election and the grievances committed by acorn and the by signature way of paying there canvesares.You speak as if this is ongoing and it is not.I wish that the whole thing would be brought forth and not half.Please bear in mind that there are as many conservative groups who have been practicing voter fraud also,this is not a one way street.

tHE FED WILL HAVE TO GET INVOLVED AND WE SHOULD HAVE A NATIONAL ID.BUT we wont which will only lead to another round of garbage......hey you have a good evening.

I posted a link to osce.org at 1000 yesterday. The third bullet of the Executive Summary addresses the concerns of Democrats and Republicans.

Sections X and XI provide some background on activities at the state (NASS) and federal level.

https://m.facebook.com/pages/National-Association-of-Secretaries-of-State-NASS/1...

http://osce.usmission.gov/

Forgot to include one: http://www.nass.org/