School bond's gym would solve number of district problems

Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Included in the Mountain Home School District's $37.5 million bond proposal to complete the junior high as a high school is a gymnasium complex with three gyms, a stand alone wrestling room, a weight training room and improved locker rooms.

The facility will be used as classrooms; help eliminate scheduling conflicts among the district's athletic teams, high school activities and community events; allow the high school to play host to district and potentially state events; and make Mountain Home facilities comparable to other gymnasiums in schools in the South Idaho Conference.

The centerpiece of the gymnasium complex is the main gym, with a capacity to seat 3,000 people, with two gyms in the mezzanine, the upper deck.

Mountain Home High School athletic director John Clark said the main court would most likely have the capacity to be split in half, creating two smaller courts. Combined with the current junior high gym, the new high school would have four gyms and five courts.

Mountain Home High School Principal Jeff Johnson said with those courts and the weight room, up to four PE classes could occur at once. Only two PE classes currently take place at once, Johnson said.

Johnson said the locker rooms are designed to allow for more teacher supervision of students. PE teachers would always be able to see what is going on in the locker rooms.

The addition of three gyms and four courts would open up a lot of practice time, Clark said.

During the winter basketball season, the boys' varsity, junior varsity and sophomore basketball teams must share the high school's two practice courts with the girls' varsity, junior varsity and sophomore teams.

To do that, practice is often scheduled until 8:30 p.m. Teams are sometimes sent to practice at Hacker Middle School, which has four basketball teams of its own, or the sophomore team shares the court at the junior high with the freshmen team.

Clark said scheduling teams for practice time becomes more complicated when there is a home basketball game or wrestling meet. The wrestling team uses the school's only regulation size court to host its meets.

Because the school's athletic teams use the gym for practice or to host up to four home events a week, Clark said having choir, band or drama events during the winter is virtually impossible.

The cheerleader team is forced to hold practice at an elementary school gym.

The addition of three gyms, and a separate auditorium for band, choir and drama functions, would eliminate several scheduling conflicts and make the gyms more accessible to the community.

"We would still have the facilities here (the current high school), we'd have practice that hopefully won't go as late, and it would free up gym space for community usage," Clark said.

Clark said the gym is often booked, especially in the spring, since it is used little during the winter other than for basketball or wrestling events.

The Arts Council, city Parks and Recreation department and others use the gym frequently.

"If someone wants to do a community affair, they have to have it here (the high school)," Clark said, using Tops in Blues, Battle of the Bands, concerts and other shows as examples.

The demand is high enough Clark said he often has to turn people down.

Stan Franks, the city Parks and Recreation director, said Parks and Rec and the school district cooperate well together. He said the only limitation the school district puts on the Parks and Rec department is when the school district is using the facility for their own events.

He schedules around the school district's schedule to offer programs that fit around that schedule.

"The only limit is space, there's not enough space for all the programs we'd like to offer," Franks said.

The current gym is also used for school dances, band and choir concerts, drama shows and debate and speech tournaments.

Because of the size of the gym and the available seating, it is no longer used to host district wrestling or varsity basketball tournaments.

Clark said the current gym does not have the ability to hold district events and he has had to turn down hosting the events because there isn't enough seating available in the gym.

Hosting district tournaments helps Mountain Home because it brings people into town to buy food, gas and hotel rooms, Clark said.

Clark said he would push for state events with better facilities.

District and state tournaments would not be the only time major tournaments are held in the gym. Clark said the wrestling team could hold major tournaments as a fundraiser.

The boys' basketball team holds a four- to six-team tournament in the summer as a fundraiser but splits games between the high school and junior high school courts.

The main gym would be built on the bottom floor of the completed high school. The two smaller gyms would be on the second floor, one on each side. Stands would allow spectators to watch events held in each gym.

The smaller gyms would be used for PE classes, athletic practice, sub-varsity events, additional mat space for wrestling tournaments and community usage, such as Park and Rec games.

A walkway connects the two smaller gyms together and overlooks the main gym. A rubber surface will be put down to create a two-lane walking/running area. Johnson said the additional cost was minimal since everything but the rubber surface was already included in the original plan.

The wrestling, weight training and cardio room will be located on the main floor.

The wrestling room will be big enough to hold two complete mats. Having the wrestling room on the main floor will make setting up for home meets easier since mats would not have to be carried up and down stairs as they are now.

High school wrestling coach Lynn Knudson said the increased space is needed to accommodate the number of wrestlers involved in the program.

The weight training and cardio rooms will be accessible through independent entrances and through the wrestling room.

Knudson said he tries to stress strength conditioning as part of the wrestling program and having the rooms so close together would make it easier to do so.

The gym is big enough to hold indoor graduation ceremonies, eliminating the element of chance, Johnson said, of allowing the weather to dictate if the ceremony is held indoors or outdoors.

Clark said the proposed gym is comparable to other gyms in the district, specifically Kuna and Skyview.

"We're not trying to be bigger, we're just doing what everyone else in the conference is doing," Clark said.

"It is in the best interest of the youth in Mountain Home. It allows their education experience to be that much better." .

The school district will ask voters to approve the $37.5 million bond on April 29.

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  • Is this a joke? Is the District just out to really tick us off? Educated people would not really try to pass this off to the public as "needed" would they? This article is insulting. Mr. Clark, Mr. Johnson and Mr. McMurtrey, have you heard that the economy is on a downward spiral? The District cannot think that we are all this stupid!

    WHAT A JOKE!!! Still a "NO" vote.

    Did any of you at that office read the Statesman about how well our schools in Mountain Home are doing in education (NOT sports)? I guess I assume that you can/do read. My error.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Mar 26, 2008, at 3:19 PM
  • Yet they CLOSED Stephenson middle school on base, now they have "Overcrowding" at hacker? The Stephenson building is still there and owned by the school district. Why not just re-open that?

    -- Posted by Reserve ID on Wed, Mar 26, 2008, at 3:57 PM
  • I have to say that I am ammused at how many ways they are trying to convice the tax payers that raising their taxes will be very beneficial. I think if the School District pulls it's head out of it's third point of contact then they will see that there have been some very workable solutions offered in these comments.

    Also some very good points made, I suggest the paper print something to get the attention of the School Board or District. The title can be "The public isn't buying the reasoning behide the School Bond." or "Based on comments left concerning the School Bond, it probably won't pass."

    I don't blame anyone in this community for being angry about this issue I am angry. I've only been here for a year and I've seen the types of teachers employeed and not all of them are bad by any means but I think they need to clean house on the ones who don't enjoy their job instead of telling me that the reason the teachers may not be happy is because the school is over crowded. Give me a break this isn't the first place that has had crowded classrooms. I believe a teacher to be a very powerful person to a YOUNG child and in this day and age they have the ability to make or cause them to loose interest!!!!

    I appreciate any and all teachers who go the extra mile for the student who is the A+ kid, the one who isn't always the good kid, the one who keep trying even when it looks like it won't do any good. That is the mark of a great teacher!!!!! Thank you

    -- Posted by Missylynn on Wed, Mar 26, 2008, at 5:35 PM
  • Had to chuckle at this article after reading the article on the rec center. Lets see, spend $5 million on a brand new rec center or $37.5 million on a school gym and some some extra school rooms. I'm sorry, but I'm not believing we need 37.5 million to add on to the school. The rec center seems like the better deal and they got the Feds to pitch in $300,000 of that. Plus, everyone can use it, not just when the school has some left over time. Like when the cheerleaders need the HS gym b/c it's too inconvient to practic outside or go to the grade school. Or if a graduation ceremony might get rained on. Give me a break.

    -- Posted by froggy on Thu, Mar 27, 2008, at 2:42 PM
  • I tell you what when my wages go up...with all the other things that have. Then we can talks bonds.

    -- Posted by Momof 2graduates on Thu, Mar 27, 2008, at 3:47 PM
  • Okay. According to the District's information, they do plan to allow the "public" to use the gym space when available...

    "We would still have the facilities here (the current high school), we'd have practice that hopefully won't go as late, and it would free up gym space for community usage," Clark said.

    They have done this for years when the public goes to the craft show at Hacker. While there may be a liability issue, they have "rented" out space in the schools for some functions. However, I highly doubt that the District will have an "open door" policy when it comes to the indoor track, etc. They would have to worry about vandals and such. It would appear from Clark's statement that we would be allowed to use the current high school facilities.

    NEXT----

    "Clark said the proposed gym is comparable to other gyms in the district, specifically Kuna and Skyview."

    "We're not trying to be bigger, we're just doing what everyone else in the conference is doing," Clark said.

    I guess that this bond is all about keeping up with the Jones'. I for one am more worried about being able to afford to live here AND make my house payment. In addition, I want to be able to sell my house if my husband gets orders. I do not want to have my house on the market for 200+ days.

    We are going to tax ourselves right out of here if we are not very careful. These 2 items proposed are NOT the only tax increases that we will see and we need to also consider that. The District will get all of this and the public will NEVER be allowed in to use a thing.

    Once again why is there no compromise? Would any of us tolerate the "all or nothing" garbage from our children/family members? No. So why take it from the District? 4 gyms and 2 walking tracks and 9 VOTEC rooms. Give me a break.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Mar 27, 2008, at 11:31 PM
  • Wow...I am amazed at how very "anti" the posters are on this forum! Bordering on plain ugliness (see the nasty little sideways attack on the intelligence of the district officials by "OpinionMissy").

    Bottom line to me is very simple: Mountain Home needs to finish the High School for more reasons than the naysayers can counter. It is inevitable...why continue to postpone?

    The short-sighted negativity on display in this forum is symptomatic of a mindset that has hurt Mountain Home for too long.

    Vote "YES" to approve the bond...it is the best thing for the community in the long run.

    -- Posted by rjs on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 2:22 PM
  • RJS:

    You say that this bond is best for the community in the long run. How long will we have to wait for this to be the best thing? It is a lot of money. The District indicated that attendance was higher than what it was when we were given the numbers. If you do the math, none of this adds up to $37.5 million in NEEDED improvements. By need, I refer to what is needed to allow these kids the tools to pass the standardized tests (back to the Idaho Statesman article). We need to concentrate on what is NEEDED and NOT what would be NICE to have. How do you explain that enrollment numbers were not as high (if you comapre years) as what the District wanted us to believe? The reason Hacker is crowded is because the District closed a school. This is not rocket science here. We have in part, been lied to again and my mission since the start of this has been to provide the FACTS not the "little bits" of info that the District feeds us once a week.

    I am sorry that you think that I am full of "ugliness" because of my comments about the powers that be that run our school(s) office. If they provided truth and facts and did not put their own spin on things...I may feel better about how we have been treated in the past. You learn best what was learned first and that is that we have been lied to or that facts have been misrepresented to the benefit of the District. This is a pattern on this subject and I do not like it. It is not fair to the people of this town that pay taxes.

    I only give back what has been fed to me from the District. I am so sorry this does not work for you. We have got the word out on this and that is good for the voters. This time, we will be informed.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 4:44 PM
  • Oh my goodness. I must apologize. I gave the wrong information in one of my posts.

    I had said that the high school would have three (3) gyms. I was wrong. So sorry.

    Please read paragraph 4 of the news article titled; "School bond's gym would solve number of district problems."

    The school bond will ADD (3) three gyms -

    The school will have a total of four (4) gyms in the high school. To go along with that we will have 5 courts.

    I am sorry I posted incorrectly. I should have said 4 gyms.!!!!!

    -- Posted by midea on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 9:28 PM
  • *

    THANK YOU RJS!!!

    I completely agree with your post. The negative posts that appear here are appalling, and it seems as if they are only from a very few people. Finishing the high school NOW is necessary, and if we don't pass the bond now, it will only be more expensive later.

    I will be voting YES on the bond.

    -- Posted by questionposer on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 10:33 PM
  • The reporter got it wrong.

    The new high school will have 2 gyms with 3 courts. The numbers 4 and 5 come when you add in the gyms and courts at the old high school. The new gym is a state requirement, not a wish.

    So, if we ever hosted districts or state, by combining all the gyms at the new high school and the old one, we would have 4 gyms with 5 courts.

    I know that some of you think that there is a big conspiracy to screw you over every time there is a bond. However, there are those that want to make the community a nicer place and that costs money. I am willing to pay a few hundred dollars a year extra to make some improvements around here. If you don't like it, go find a retirement community in Florida or Arizona.

    -- Posted by mule on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 10:34 PM
  • *

    To RJS and k-leigh,

    I for one would be strong supporter of anything improvements to the school district that made sense and that the district was open and honest about. But $37 mil to ADD onto a school does not pass my personal sanity check. Also the district has only provided a small portion of the information and the other information, we have had to find on our own. The district has not provided requested information and instead has tried to ignore the requests.

    While I may not have any children in the district, both my children graduated recently. I think the district could trim off some the extra things, like an indoor running track and maybe a court or two. They seem to be comparing Mt Home to some of the other schools in the district and this is like comparing apples to oranges. These other districts are much larger in size and have a large enough tax base to support a bond of this size. Simple economics says that Mt Home does not have the economic base to do so. All we taxpayers have asked is for the district to address some of these concerns, which they have not done. They are holding open forums but no one seems to know where or when these OPEN forums are. We have asked and asked for the information but once again they just try to stonewall the requests. So much for having OPEN forums for us to to raise our concerns in.

    I do agree that it is in the best interest of the community to improve both the facility and the quality of the education that is being provided but I am having a difficult time with the large leap that the district is looking at. Maybe some changes of a smaller nature to the building are needed and then re-evaluate the status of the rest of what they are looking at.

    -- Posted by B Mullen on Sat, Mar 29, 2008, at 5:45 PM
  • Im still votino "NO", its a bad idea theses so-called Bonds

    -- Posted by Freedom on Sun, Mar 30, 2008, at 4:07 PM
  • Oops, forgot to add the existing gym that is at the Junior High now. The new gym would make it 2 separate gyms with 4 courts. One main court in the existing gym and in the new gym in would house 3 courts one on the main level and 2 court on the second level.

    -- Posted by Hannah32 on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 12:27 AM
  • "Votino" can't spell but still can count, I Vote No :)

    -- Posted by Freedom on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 5:00 AM
  • "According to the District's information, they do plan to allow the "public" to use the gym space when available..."

    The school district facilities have always been open to public use. Anybody, any group has the ability to reserve gyms, classrooms, playgrounds, etc. All you have to do is fill out the paperwork.

    In short, all the additions would be up for general public use. Even the auditorium.

    "However, I highly doubt that the District will have an "open door" policy when it comes to the indoor track, etc."

    Many people already use and "open door" policy when it comes to Hacker's open doors for cold weather winter walking. An indoor track would replace the need for people to walk in hallways and would open up the ability for climate controlled winter running.

    -- Posted by bond_supporter on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:10 PM
  • That is one heck of a great reason to spend $37+ million dollars! It is great that we will have a nice place to run/walk.

    For the record...I worked for the District. In my 3 years with the local schools, I NEVER saw anyone in the school walking (like the public) other than staff. I really doubt with all of the security issues that they are just going to let the public in. That would mean that we (the people who pay taxes) would have to pay for security because you know that they will not just allow people in without supervision...or maybe they would. I am ever so happy that you will have a nice place at the cost of $37.5 million dollars to walk and run. With that way of thinking, I hope that you will not need to sell your house any time soon.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Apr 1, 2008, at 7:42 PM
  • OpinionMissy,

    Not that it is terribly germane to your opposition to the issue at hand (I really don't believe anyone could sway your bitter "anti" attitude in that regard), but "bond_supporter" has you on this one. Hacker has been used as an indoor walking area by the public (for free) for many, many years. My mother walked there religiously for a long time and I witnessed a great deal of use while I was coaching there from 1991-2003. No need for added security "at taxpayer expense", as the period of use is in the evenings and the janitorial staff is already there.

    -- Posted by rjs on Wed, Apr 2, 2008, at 7:02 PM
  • "If you don't like it, go find a retirement community in Florida or Arizona."

    -- Posted by mule on Fri, Mar 28, 2008, at 10:34 PM

    mule,

    I don't think that is the way the process works. If one likes the proposed bond then vote for it. If one does not like the proposed bond then vote no, and hope that a little more than a third of the voters agree with you.

    If a super majority of the voters approve this bond, so be it. But if they fail please don't banish the dissenters to the likes of Arizona or Florida.

    I voted "Yes" on this school bond last year. But because of names and insults that were directed at those who opposed the last try on this bond issue, and with your post seem to continue this year, I will be voting "No" this time around.

    And I am not moving anywhere.

    -- Posted by Beau on Fri, Apr 4, 2008, at 3:32 AM
  • Beau,

    Have the reasons you voted "yes" changed since last year? If not, then your decision to change your vote this year based solely on the immature acts/responses of a very few who lashed out against the "no" voters last year is indeed troubling. Ask yourself whether all the comments by those in opposition were all above board. I think you'll have to admit that the negativity was every bit as harsh on the "no" side of the issue leading up to the vote. You need only look at this year's crop of posts that attack the intelligence and integrity of the district officials...

    Vote "yes", or vote "no"...but at least do so for the right reasons.

    -- Posted by rjs on Sun, Apr 6, 2008, at 4:57 PM
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