Rube Goldberg and politics

Posted Wednesday, October 9, 2013, at 8:31 AM
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  • Very good points Kelly particularly if the furloughed workers are going to get paid anyway what is the point of not letting them work for the pay?

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 10:30 AM
  • 6 years huh? So they started laughing around October 2007 when Bush was president and haven't stopped yet?

    It's a sad situation but everyone, including ourselves is laughing since before 2007 over various things. We aren't perfect but we are still pretty good and the rest of the world isn't perfect either.

    I'm more concerned about fixing the budget problem and the problem in Congress of not compromising enough to make laws. I'm hoping that the 2014 elections or the worry over them starts to make an improvement.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 3:47 PM
  • I'm sorry CoolBreeze, I didn't know that you were sick.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 9:55 PM
  • Your cut and paste starts with a logic error. It says that because spending bills originate in the House of Representatives, Congressmen have a right to decide what to spend money on. That is simply not true.

    The House of Representatives, by itself can't pass a bill of any kind so they need to pass a bill that will also be approved by the Senate and approved by the President unless Congress has the votes to override a Presidential veto.

    The House of Representatives is probably ready to do it's job correctly, however John Boehner, influenced by Republican tea party radicals won't let a "clean" bill come to a vote in the House.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 8:25 AM
  • Thomas Sowell has no credibility with me. In order to remove YOUR confusion, I recommend that you read the Constitution of the United States, in particular Article 1, Section 7.

    Constitution of the United States

    Article 1.

    Section. 7.

    All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

    Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

    Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 9:57 AM
  • -- Posted by Mercutio on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 2:06 PM
  • No, I don't think that I'll be side tracked by your off topic issue, CoolBreeze.

    For those interested, related to the topic of this blog, I read a conservative editorial (Ted, we hardly knew ya) making suggestions for the Republican Party to turn things around to recover from the damage caused to the party due to the shutdown.

    A key statement that was made is below.

    "On the bright side, this, as one acerbic e-mailer put it, had "to be flushed out of the system" -- the zeal for bad causes, confusing conservatism with radicalism, listening only to voices that tell you what you want to hear, the failure to appreciate that Americans are pragmatic and centrist in their politics. And the "this" is also the delusion that all government is bad and that public employees are dishonorable; neither is true, and those who take glee in proclaiming otherwise should be viewed skeptically.

    The good news is that this splash of cold water is happening in plenty of time for Republicans to make wise choices for 2014 and 2016 and for sober, effective leaders to emerge who can take on a much-needed course correction. The governors certainly are one source of talent for 2016. But for now, concentrating on governing well, picking viable candidates and finding ways to appeal to ordinary Americans through conservative policies would be advisable. Things can change on a dime, we know. But last night they sure took a dramatic turn."

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 5:39 PM
  • Mercutio, great link! I hope people take a look at it.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 5:41 PM
  • What the author of your post doesn't realize is that income inequality is not good if it goes too far.

    "The Economists" says that there is some good from income inequality. It helps with "creating incentives to work hard and take risks."

    There are also bad things from income inequality. It is thought to be "politically dangerous and economically damaging".

    In the United States the inequality is getting worse and worse.

    "The Economist" recommends two ways to fix the problem.

    1. Stop the boondoggles for the rich

    2. Help our young people, earlier with education.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Fri, Oct 18, 2013, at 3:40 PM
  • GREAT POINTS SAM.....ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE EDUCATION OF CHILDREN........everyone should have life, liberty and be able to pursue happiness.You must have the tools...........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Oct 19, 2013, at 10:14 PM
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