Nuke plant hearings begin tonight; checking the facts

Wednesday, October 8, 2008

The Elmore County Planning and Zoning Commission will hold a series of four public hearings regarding AEHI's request to rezone the land approximately six miles west of Hammett, the first one beginning tonight (Wednesday).

Each hearing will start at 6:30 at Mountain Home Junior High School's gym and will adhere to the following schedule:

*Oct. 8, applicant presentation, staff report and individuals and groups in support of the application.

*Oct. 22, pre-qualified groups and individuals in opposition to the request.

*Oct. 29, Individuals in opposition to the application (if necessary).

*Nov. 5, rebuttal by applicant.

Groups that wish to speak at the hearings needed to submit a written request to the commission by Oct. 1. Individuals who wish to speak may sign up at the hearing and are limited to three minutes.

Individuals who are undecided on the matter and/or looking for more information are invited to attend all the hearings, Bonnie Sharp, director of Elmore County Growth and Development, said.

Fact check

In the Oct. 1 issue, the Mountain Home News gave Don Gillispie, chairman and CEO of Alternative Energy Holdings, Inc., and Snake River Alliance Executive Director Andrea Shipley were given the chance to present their take on AEHI's request to rezone approximately 1,345 acres of Agricultural A zoned property to Heavy Industrial to build a nuclear power plant on the land.

Both stories presented issues that demanded further investigation.

For example, Gillispie said Elmore County commissioners indicated they were supportive of the proposal last summer if the company came to the county.

"We didn't say we were supportive, we said what we tell everyone, 'if they want to come talk to us, we'll always willing to talk'," Commissioner Arlie Shaw said. "Anyone can come in and make a general presentation and talk to us."

The biggest discrepancy between both sides' stories was the amount of water the plant will consume. Gillispie said the plant will consume 100,000 gallons of water a day while Shipley said a plant the size he wants to build will consume close to 30 million gallons per day.

The amount of water a nuclear power plant consumes is site-dependent and depends on the plant's cooling system.

Gillispie said he intends to build an AVERA EPR plant. A fact sheet found on AVERA's website said the model, depending on the cooling system, uses anywhere from between less than one million gallons per day to 41 million gallons a day.

The amount of water the plant will use will also depend on the amount of water rights AEHI is able to acquire. Gillispie said AEHI will look to acquire the rights to 10 million gallons a day.

However, he maintains the plant will only consume, or lose, 100,000 a day but admits the plant will draw much more water from the Snake River a day.

The water will be drawn off the river into a cooling pond and used as needed. Once the water circulates through the plant, the water will go into another holding pond. The water there can be used for farming or returned into the river once it has cooled back down to meet EPA standards

Gillispie counts all water consumption in the 100,000 gallons a day total for the plant, including water drank from fountains and flushed in toilets.

Shipley said AEHI would use federal and state subsidiaries to finance the plant.

AEHI did not deny that claim.

"Every form of energy takes advantage of government incentives," spokesperson Martin Johncox said. "They are there to promote clean, reliable base load energy and we plan to take advantage of them."

Johncox said subsidiaries/incentives for nuclear plants are normally in the form of loan guarantees and are not normally used.

Shipley questioned AEHI's accountability because of a claim the company was three months delinquent paying their $50,000 application fee to Owyhee County.

Gillispie said Owhyee County's only application fee was $1,000 and he agreed to pay an additional amount to help offset any additional expenses the county might occur while processing the application. The Elmore County Planning and Zoning Commission will charge the company for additional expenses the county occurs while processing AEHI's current application.

Gillispie said he received a letter from Owyhee County stating he owed $50,000 but that he wanted to see an invoice before paying any additional money. He said he paid the additional amount in full once he received the invoice.

Dick Freund, speaking on behalf of and beside the Owyhee County commissioners verified Gillispie's story.

"Once notified in writing, they paid up almost immediately," he said.

Gillispie said one reactor would provide enough power to supply every house in Idaho three times over. AVERA's factsheet said one reactor could provide enough electricity to power 1.6 million homes. A 2006 state censuses showed Idaho had 615,624 housing units, enough for one reactor to power each home in Idaho 2.6 times.

Shipley questioned Elmore County's ability to provide the security infrastructure needed for the plant.

Sheriff Rick Layher said he understood AEHI would provide security on site but the influx of people in the county during the construction and operation phases did cause him some concern.

He compared the additional people the plant would bring into town to planned communities in the county. Layher said planned communities pay impact fees that support additional law enforcement officers for the communities and the challenge would be ensuring the county has additional funds to put officers in place until taxes are collected from the plant.

"As long as we can plan and grow with it, that is the key for everything," he said.

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  • Finally, a thorough job of reporting. I support the plant but this reporter cuts through the claims of both sides. The claims that the company was late in paying Owyhee COunty are shown to be another attempt by the SRA to smear this company. No wonder the SRA stopped letting people post comments on the SRA site when Shipley took over - accountability's a tough thing and they can spread misinformation for quite a while before a reporter finally does some basic fact-checking. The SRA sure isn't going to tell the whole story. And so what if the company uses federal incentives? Renewable gets far more than nuclear anyway.

    -- Posted by I want jobs on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 12:19 PM
  • I did some of my own fact finding:

    "A state legislative energy committee meeting took a bizarre twist Thursday when the developer of a proposed Elmore County nuclear power plant left the Capitol Annex moments before his scheduled testimony, leaving word that he would e-mail his testimony in instead. AEHI President Don Gillispie had been on the agenda for the Interim Energy for more than a week and was scheduled to give lawmakers an update on his proposed 1,600MW nuclear power plant south of Mountain Home. When he failed to appear to testify, former Owyhee County Planning and Zoning Commissioner Joe Weatherby was invited to the podium to discuss the nuke plant with the panel."

    It would appear the CEO, Don Gillispie does not do well in "hearings" since he will not be attending the hearing tonight in Elmore County.

    Now, about that $50,000 "gift" to Owyhee County (from the above article):

    "Gillispie said he received a letter from Owyhee County stating he owed $50,000 but that he wanted to see an invoice before paying any additional money. He said he paid the additional amount in full once he received the invoice."

    "Dick Freund, speaking on behalf of and beside the Owyhee County commissioners verified Gillispie's story."

    "Once notified in writing, they paid up almost immediately," he said."

    Now, the truth about the $50,000...

    "As it turns out, the Owyhee County Planning and Zoning commission on Thursday unanimously

    approved a request by the IEC to construct two trailers and meteorological towers on the former

    site. The IEC made the application months ago and the planning and zoning commission took the

    matter under advisement. Gillispie also gave Owyhee County $50,000 to cover initial application costs associated with the IEC. Now that the IEC is moving to a neighboring county, Gillispie said Owyhee County can keep the $50,000 and use it for future growth-related needs."

    Source: http://www.alternateenergyholdings.com/IEC%20moves%20to%20Elmore%20County%2004-0...

    HOW can they keep and use what was spent? These are your own words Mr. Gillispie!

    More untruths from from AEHI!

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 12:22 PM
  • I want jobs:

    I suggest you do some research regarding YOUR truths on this matter. Owyhee County did have a problem with regard to the $50,000. It was paid "almost" immediately ("Once notified in writing, they paid up almost immediately," he said.") does not mean he just paid up. The TF News did the story on this. It took months for Owhee County to get paid. This guy is far from honest. Do not take all that you read at face value.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 12:27 PM
  • How often does it usually take to get paid for something like this? Dick Freund seemed to be saying that the commishioners didn't have a problem with it.

    -- Posted by IdahoBorn on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 1:24 PM
  • Opinion Missy, I'm not taking Don Gillispie's word on anything here. I'm taking Owhyee County's word. Owyhee says Gillispie paid when Gillispie received the invoice he asked for. If it takes Owyhee county several months to decide on some simple weather towers they have no right to complain anyway about people being late.

    The SRA likes to make a big deal about Gillispie not testfying. From what I hear, the meeting was running an hour behind. Maybe he couldn't twiddle this thumbs any longer. He made the effort to show up and testfy so he gave it a try. Househusbands and retired people usually sit on those interim committes and Gilispie has a job. I wouldn't trust the Snake River Aliance to give the whole story on anything - but they sure want us to!

    I came across gillispie's blog at www.cleanidahoenergy.wordpress.com, if you want to hear Gillispies account of things. Where is the Snake Alliance's blog by the way? Why do they shy away from comment?

    -- Posted by I want jobs on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 1:47 PM
  • Google Snake River Alliance if you want their site.

    I'm not in favor of all the attitudes of the SRA myself, and I definitely want more jobs in Elmore County as well...however, from the research I've done on several sites and lots of reading, I have concluded that the imminent and future damage to be done to our aquifer and the Snake in this drought time we're in more than outweigh the possible gains in employment. And just the logistics alone (fire, roads, etc.) are gigantic.

    Also, I don't believe the AEHI when they say there is no cost to taxpayers. According to their own accountant, the AEHI might not survive as a company. If they even get a loan to build, it will be backed by the US government -- that means you and I will be responsible financially if (I believe WHEN) the company fails. They might try to sell I suppose, but ultimately we the taxpayers will still be held responsible. Not something I'm interested in.

    Today's quote for their penny stock is less than a quarter.

    Please don't take my word for all this. Come to all the hearings, both pro and con, and do your own research first. Tonight's meeting concerns the rezoning situation only.

    -- Posted by senior lady on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 3:46 PM
  • "Sheriff Rick Layher said he understood AEHI would provide security on site but the influx of people in the county during the construction and operation phases did cause him some concern.

    He compared the additional people the plant would bring into town to planned communities in the county. Layher said planned communities pay impact fees that support additional law enforcement officers for the communities and the challenge would be ensuring the county has additional funds to put officers in place until taxes are collected from the plant.

    "As long as we can plan and grow with it, that is the key for everything," he said."

    PROBLEM: Sheriff Layher has not been able to keep up with growth in this county for years. How can he possibly manage this?

    -- Posted by 12walt34 on Wed, Oct 8, 2008, at 4:40 PM
  • While the water usage is a major concern, we so badly need other sources of clean power. Safeguards are so much better these days. And it's not like they keep all the water they use. It's not contaminated when used as a cooling device and they return it when it's cooled. A clean power source is needed a whole lot more than a new subdivision that no one wants anyway.

    -- Posted by Kekkadean on Thu, Oct 9, 2008, at 11:11 AM
  • As much as I would also like to see more jobs in Elmore county, I'd MUCH rather have truly clean energy. If we're thinking long-term then most of the jobs created by a nuclear power plant are going to be clean-up type jobs, correct?

    Why not open a wind tower construction plant instead? Or a solar panel construction plant? Or an algae to biodisel conversion lab? There are just SO many other options that deserve to be explored and most of them don't present anywhere near as much risk as building a nuclear facility on top of a key water source.

    http://www.pickensplan.com

    http://www.energyresearchproject.org/

    http://peswiki.com/index.php/

    -- Posted by CalmMountain on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 1:36 PM
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