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Kim Kovac

Healthy Benefits Act of 2009

Posted Monday, September 21, 2009, at 10:50 AM
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  • Change you can believe in! Yes Kim, that was a "fun" read huh (for those of us who can read that is)? FLUSH!!!

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 1:41 PM
  • "Enforces a 100% tax on health insurance whose value exceeds 13% of income. Employer provides insurance-employee required to take the plan-employee gets a tax credit if cost exceeds 13% of income and then employer is assessed a tax that matches that credit."

    This is the eye-opener for me. I need to do more research but on the surface it seems circular. Besides the employer-employee r'ship there will be other ripple effects. These ripple effects will occur because of the shrinking wallet. Decreasing one's disposable income can lead to other detrimental activities. One can figure out what those are.

    -- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 4:42 PM
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    Kim, could you please clarify the name of the Act you're commenting on? The finance.senate.gov website refers to the America's Healthy Future Act of 2009. Is this the same Act you refer to in your post?

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Mon, Sep 21, 2009, at 4:47 PM
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    So, at what point in a person's life should one be expected to take responsibility for one's health issues?

    At birth? Now, that seems unlikely.

    So, who'll take care of the costs of newborns with life threatening defects? The parents of the newborn?

    That would seem fair, but life is a crapshoot as far as health goes. Why should the opportunity for survivability for anyone, let alone a newborn, be solely based on whether or not an individual can afford the policy(ies) that would need to be in force to improve that individuals odds of survival?

    An individual may not be able to afford the coverage that may provide the care that would ensure their survival. I have family members whose health care premiums would consume their entire monthly income.

    Throughout these blogs there have been fears expressed that through any health care reform plan, the government will have the final say in an individuals outcome, and that the only safe and free course is for each of us to take individual responsibility.

    If someone cannot afford their health care premiums, and succumbs to an illness that may have been survivable with treatment, who really made the final call on that individuals survivability? The "Benjamins".

    This is another sort of weeding out those who are not able to work and contribute to the benefit of our economy isn't it?

    Meaning, if you're well enough to work at a job that will enable you to pay for your health insurance, you're valuable enough to keep around. On the other hand, if you can't pay for your health insurance, well, you're probably in some low paying job that doesn't really contribute to the advancement of humanity anyway, and there will be someone else out there who will take your place at your job.

    "Sorry pal, you'll hardly be missed, and the rest of us will have more "Benajamins" to go toward our own care. See you on the other side".

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 6:14 AM
  • Yes, it is the same one. A big eye-opener, too. Today, they are supposed to consider over 500 amendments and Baucus as already added a few before the actual meeting. Baucus' proposed concessions are to appease democrats and give middleclass taxpayers givebacks who are being hit hard with penalties.

    Baucus, with clever foresight, gave himself leeway to add relatively insignificant improvements so that he could pretend he is flexible, and pretend that his bill can be made adequate, and thereby mollify progressives.

    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/legs-on-a-pike-understand_b_294166.ht...

    (Time: 6:19am)

    -- Posted by kimkovac on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 6:19 AM
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    I've read through the Modifications to the Chairman's Mark "America's Healthy Future Act of 2009" and noted that a number of those 500 amendments have been brought forward by those Republicans who had some awareness of the content of America's Healthy Future Act of 2009 as it was developed by the Senate Committee on Finance.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Tue, Sep 22, 2009, at 9:17 PM
  • In today's economic crisis it would seem illogical (to be polite) to consider increasing the average family's financial burden. This seems a bit short-sighted but what does one expect of politicians. Their motives are different than that of average citizens.

    -- Posted by twilcox1978 on Wed, Sep 23, 2009, at 11:10 AM
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    THROW THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! After the 2010 elections there should only be a few democrats in congress and they all should like the color blue! The liberal, left wing extremists in congress voted down 3 key amendments to the newest legislation. One would have the bill posted for review by the people on the internet 72 hours before any vote. One would show the estimated cost to YOU on the internet. Our own Walt Minnick was actually behind the push to have these amnedments included in the bill. Apparently the democrats in congress don't think you are smart enough to read a bill and understand it OR, they are trying to hide something from YOU!

    Show some support for the men and women in congress that are supporting YOU!

    So much for all that bi-partisanism that the president spoke about on the floor of congress. Maybe Jow Wilson wasn't so wrong after all. DO ya think Princess Pelosi will be held to task and made to apologize for screwing the American people AGAIN?

    -- Posted by mhbouncer on Thu, Sep 24, 2009, at 7:37 AM
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    Looks like the original amendment requiring a 72 hr. posting on the Senate Finance Committees website would've resulted in the posting of the full legislative document.

    Further, it appears that the amendment was changed to require a "plain language" copy of the legislation to be posted, and dropped the 72 hour limit on the time the legislation would be posted on the Senate Finance COmmittees website. Sounds okay to me. Why limit it to 72 hours? What if the committee desires to post the legislation for a longer period?

    I believe this would be fair. The commitee understands that they must address a wide audience, and 72 hours might not be enough time for all of us work our way through the legislation The full text has always been available to read, and the additional requirement to provide the "plain language" copy will benefit all of us by clarifying the formal legislative jargon.

    http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/legislation.htm

    http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/092209%20Modified%20Amendment...

    http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/hearings.htm

    I don't understand the comment about "transparency". I've found this legislation by going to the finance.senate.gov website and watched live committee hearings on C-SPAN.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Fri, Sep 25, 2009, at 4:33 PM
  • -- Posted by DaveThompson on Sun, Sep 27, 2009, at 4:19 PM
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    bazookaman, Anything specific you want to know about? Help me get started here.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Wed, Sep 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM
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    I sure don't know. I've never been polled.

    -- Posted by DaveThompson on Wed, Sep 30, 2009, at 8:15 PM
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