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Obama Banned Executive Order 13435

Posted Monday, March 16, 2009, at 12:20 AM
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    First off, every president we've been blessed with in this country has been two-faced in one way or another. Second, how is revoking an old policy about stem cell research funding two-faced, when the new policy will fund the FULL SCOPE OF EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH? Not just the limited study. The whole article stinks of hypocrisy and Obama hating.

    {Now when your thinking about this topic of human eggs, you need to realize the if there was one right here >.< on that dot you'd still have to use a high powered microscope to see it.} Moving on.

    Then there's the fact that the embryo's that are used in this research come from "In Vitro Fertilisation Clinics". These are embryo's that were collected for use by specific people that cannot get pregnant by natural means, for one reason or another. The embryo's that are not used by the patient are tossed out if they are not going to be used by that person in the future. (like thrown in a trash can) Now, here's another fact, embryo's that have been fertilized but "remain outside" of the "womb" will "never" under any circumstances, form into a fully formed human baby. But they will produce human stem cells under laboratory conditions.

    So which is worse? Throwing away a embryo that would otherwise sit in a freezer and never be used? Or use it for research that could possibly cure every-possible aliment known too human kind? Like cancer or alzheimer's and perhaps grow much needed organs.

    Or maybe we should go into the ethics of freezing human embyo's?

    See the problem I have with this topic is that you and other christians/pro-lifers, use abortion in the same article as stem cell reasearch. When they are two seperate topics. One is a Baby and the other is just a series of cells.

    Was that nice enough for you?

    -- Posted by censored on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 2:34 AM
  • I wont go on about abortion. There has to be a reason that stem cell research is still a viable topic. If it was so moronic and unnecessary it would have never became known to the non-scientific public. There has to be some marginal or complete validity to it.

    -- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 11:56 AM
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    Pharmaceutical companies won't stay rich if actual cures start popping up from stem cell research. And that's about it in a nutshell.

    -- Posted by censored on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 12:32 PM
  • What if it was your child suffering from an ailment that could be cured as a result of stem cell research....Spinal Cord Injuries, Parkinsons, and one incurable disease very NEAR to me, Juveniele Diabetes. Oh my, the drug companies would suffer from curing diseases, but, it would be a great day for me at least to not have to give one more dime to them.....unless you suffer from a disease that could possilby be cured from said research, you should think about what you are saying regarding this issue. Just one persons opinion.

    And do you think you could give our President a chance? Its been like 50 days.....it will take time and money to fix our country. The Bush Presidency cost us millions, and now it will surely cost us millions to get out of it. We cannot let our banks fail, or, it will be another great depression no doubt!!! A bit off topic, but, thats all I have to say about that!

    -- Posted by mhg4316 on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 2:47 PM
  • YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT! WHAT OBAMA DID WAS ORDER FUNDING FOR EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH AND "Executive Order 13435...is revoked." REVOKED! DON'T YOU SEE WHAT THAT MEANS. HE STATED THAT HE WANTED TO SUPPORT ALL STEM CELL RESEARCH IN ONE BREATH YET SIGNED A FORM THAT REVOKES FUNDING FOR THE RESEARCH BEING DONE FOR THE CELLS THAT MIMIC EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS.

    Executive Order 13435 gave funding to continue that research and it was revoked! This research has been successful in producing the stem cells that we want to do all those wonderful things, "like curing cancer or alzheimer's and perhaps grow much needed organs". There was no need to revoke that funding when Obama said that he wanted to support "promising research of all kinds, including groundbreaking research to convert ordinary human cells into ones that resemble embryonic stem cells." Why would he revoke it? It is something all people from all faith and nonfaith can agree on! This doesn't make sense to me. The funding for that research makes the argument over embryonic stem cell research a "moot" point but he revoked it!

    And once again, I would appreciate it if you would stop labeling me. I don't think that I have labeled you! I do not fit into some kind of slot of yours. Although, it may be easier for you to fit me into some negative, sour-tasting group, therefore making it easier to dimiss my opinion based on some pre-conceived notion that you know who I am. Fact of the matter is, I am not a liberal, a zealot, a fundamentalist, a republican, a conservative, a leftist, a rightist, a democrat nor am I bible-thumbing "my way or no way" intolerant red-neck! I am a passionate woman with strong beliefs in the God of the universe and the moral and ethical rightness of human life. But that was probably a waste of my time and effort, so just stick me into whatever mold makes you feel justified in dismissing me.

    -- Posted by kimkovac on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 2:54 PM
  • Kim, great blog as always. You are a smart lady and you are on the ball. Do not ever think that what you write or research is a waste of time/effort. Some understand the point. Keep it up Kim. You are the voice of "reason" and you cannot allow them to "win." Great info! Thanks.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 3:52 PM
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    Lady, calm down. You've said so yourself that your a christian. Who cares? Not me. And the article that you used is from a conservative web site. So what's that say? Maybe post articles from medical/scientific websites instead of biased area's of the Internet.

    And if your going to study, research something, you don't just concentrate on one area. You have to look at the full picture. Otherwise, you end up with something that is lacking in truth. Like studying a Bible, do you just read one chapter, form your idea and ignore the rest? Nope. ya read the whole thing to get a deep understanding of the workings of God.

    And the whole article you posted revokes itself. As I already pointed out.

    -- Posted by censored on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 4:00 PM
  • I'm glad Obama lifted the ban! Unfortunately I am sad to see federal money be put towards it. Obama could just give every tax payer a $20,000 gift card to Ford to stimulate the economy and fix the auto industry. But I guess, as long as the government is spending. That's what it takes to get the economy going.

    -- Posted by yoB on Mon, Mar 16, 2009, at 8:55 PM
  • Thank you all for your comments. Have a great St. Patricks Day.

    -- Posted by kimkovac on Tue, Mar 17, 2009, at 8:21 AM
  • What has the Embryotic stemsell reasearch cured or contributed?

    -- Posted by AtomicDog on Tue, Mar 17, 2009, at 12:28 PM
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    Hey censored, you of all people should never call someone out for using a website that supports an idea or thought. I've seen several liberal zealots using the most left wing articles they could find to support their narrow minded, shallow thought process. Keep up the good work Kim.

    -- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Mar 24, 2009, at 2:36 PM
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    I see today someone at Notre Dame decided having the new messiah speak at their commencment exercise was a good idea. And here, as a Catholic, I thought that ND was the end all of schools for our fatih. And as a Catholic I thought the mere thought of ending a human life was one of the most atrocious things known to man. Funny how things change. My thoughts and beliefs, however, haven't. A life is a life is a life!! To end one in the name of science is exactly what the secular society we've become wants us to do. Give no thought that this "thing" we are destroying is a human in every sense of the word. The fact that life begins the moment that egg gets fertilized and the chemical reactions, the very beginnings of life, begin. Within days there is a heart beat, within weeks it can be seen for what it truly is....HUMAN. I know I'm gonna get FRIED by the left for my faith and my beliefs, But I don't care! People that beleive as I do have been persecuted for thousands of years and in a couple weeks there will be an anniversary of the death of the TRUE Messiah. There has only been one death that has truly assisted mankind. Don't let the theology of science blind people to the fact that murdering the innocent is still illegal.

    -- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Mar 24, 2009, at 2:49 PM
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    By the way.....can you make my $20k gift card to Wal-Mart..I'd rather feed my family and help Kim stayed employed and keep Ken fed.

    -- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Mar 24, 2009, at 10:54 PM
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