Two arrested after discovery of meth lab in Mountain Home

Friday, July 24, 2009

Two people have been arrested in connection with a discovery of a meth lab in Mountain Home.

Thursday afternoon an Elmore County sheriff's deputy was conducting a probation search of a house in the 900 block of W. 8th South St. in Mountain Home, around 3:30 p.m., when he came across a homemade meth lab in one of the bedrooms.

Thomas Shane Curren, 29, was charged with possession of a controlled substance, felony trafficking of a controlled substance, and manufacturing a controlled substance.

Authorities begin clean-up operations after the discovery of the meth lab.

Susan B Talamantez, 52, was charged with destruction of evidence. Both subjects were booked into the Elmore County Jail.

Another subject was given a citation and released for frequenting a known drug house.

The Elmore County Sheriff's Office requested the assistance of the Idaho State Police to help with the investigation and a hazardous materials (hazmat) team from Salt Lake City, Utah, to help clean up the residence.

Hazmat crews remained on scene cleaning up until the early hours of Friday morning.

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    OMG. This is right across the street from an assisted living home. I sure hope the book is thrown at these people and they are not able to do this again. If not then there is something seriously wrong with the judical system in Elmore County. These idiots not only placed themselves in harms way but all those that lived around them. And yes, I am upset as I would hope others are.

    -- Posted by B Mullen on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 8:47 AM
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    What happened to the children who live in this house. And all the others who do. That house is always a mess and has many people living there. I worry about the children and their health.

    -- Posted by airforcewive on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 8:48 AM
  • What a shock to see deadbeat meth heads so close to my residense. After looking up both names on the Idaho State Judiciary web site and seeing the offenses they have been charged with in the past makes me believe we have a huge problem with our judicial system! Lets clean up this mess in Mountain Home, this meth problem needs to just blow away! I will be the first to volunteer to help clean the mess!!

    -- Posted by tom44 on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 9:21 AM
  • There is no doubt everyone in that house knew what was going on. One is a retired AF TSgt. Say goodbye to that retirement check you idiot. Someone needs to take the children away so they don't end up being harmed because of the actions of all that live in the house. I live "very" close to this house. Our neighborhood is a nice area and if I have anything to do with it, it will stay that way. Let it be known, I am watching you. I will be recording EVERY vehicle, visitor and all that goes on in this home in the future as long as these losers live there.

    -- Posted by crimewatcher1 on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 9:43 AM
  • Glad they got these people off the streets, and out of that house. Good job MHPD, FD, and other agencies who were involved with the discovery, and clean-up yesterday, and the continued clean up today. Now lets just hope that whomever continues the judicial process has a "zero-tolerance" level, and these "upstanding citizens" are dealt with correctly. But sadly, I doubt that will happen. I dont have that much faith in Justice anymore.

    -- Posted by fyrmom on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 10:11 AM
  • That meth lab is not only across from an assisted living home, but it is also in a school zone for the new alternative school. not to mention all the kids that walk by there on their way to the movie theater or McDonalds.

    -- Posted by cdav0031 on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 11:18 AM
  • That is the guy that drove his car in my house last yr on the 4th of july. he messed up half my house. got away with a 200 dollar fine.I still hav a messed up house.The insurance company is still trying to take avanage of me. HE GETS A LAWYER FOR ANYTHING HE DOES, I CANT FIND ONE TO HELP ME .I DIDNT MOVE MY HOUSE IN THE STREET. HE WENT ACROSS 2 LANES AT 25 AND DIDNT BRAKE AT ALL.THIS IS SO MESSED UP ...WHATS IS HE GOING TO GET FOR THIS ANOTHER 200 FINE.WHAT S MESSED UP SYSTEM

    -- Posted by danecoat on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 12:03 PM
  • I would like to say thank you to the agency who busted this meth lab the ELMORE COUNTY SHERRIF'S OFFICE and thank you to ISP, the MHFD, and the team from Utah.

    -- Posted by Lucky45 on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 12:26 PM
  • Making METH,,, oh Man OFF TOO JAIL YOU FOLKS GO (hopefully FOREVER) you Rotten People, I hope they NEVER let you out of jail, ever

    -- Posted by Freedom on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM
  • danecoat-I am sorry. It is a criminal justice system and little is done for victims. Did the PA file any documents which would require him to pay you restitution...that is if he ever gets out of jail from this current criminal act. Dane, I think about you and your family often and I hope the situation will be taken care of.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 12:47 PM
  • First, Thomas's age is 22, not 29 as in the article. Second, if the system works as it should, both should be in jail/prison serving their sentence from their previous charges. They were both on probation. What about Susan's husband? He had to know that this was going on. Did he just turn a blind eye and play stupid? I know that these chemicals stink when they are cooked and they impregnate everything from floor to ceiling.

    -- Posted by Dee Dubya on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 4:18 PM
  • jail will clean them up enough to live maybe 20 or thirty more years at a cost to taxpayers of approx. $45,000 a year. That could add up to a million dollars. It will get more expensive as they gety older and sicker.

    So, who here wants to spend one million per meth addict?

    Show of hands ?

    -- Posted by cricket991 on Fri, Jul 24, 2009, at 5:07 PM
  • i think this is just what he needed. that was my former boyfriend who got me smoking meth. thankfully for my mother we moved out of state. now that im back i could never be happier. that could have been me. it hit really close to home. i have been sober for 3 years now. wow.

    -- Posted by coatyandtaxi on Sat, Jul 25, 2009, at 1:21 PM
  • To coatyandtaxi...your post gave me the chills. If you are in fact clean and escaped this horrible lifestyle, Congratulations on turning your life around!!

    Spead the word that no one should ever think of trying drugs. Like the ads say, "NOT EVEN ONCE"!

    -- Posted by IdahoGirl on Mon, Jul 27, 2009, at 5:30 PM
  • OMG AND THIS WOMAN WORKS AT PAULS MARKET, I CANT BELIEVE IT.THEY FIRE GOOD LAW ABIDING PPL AND HIRE DRUGGIES.OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

    -- Posted by CITIZEN60 on Mon, Jul 27, 2009, at 8:59 PM
  • Well that is my baby's father, ex-boyfriend and in all honesty it really does serve him right i mean what the hell was he thinking of doing that did he think he would get away with it I mean our 6 month old was there when this happend and now thanks to them I have a huge ER bill that I cant afford to pay for and I have to take our daughter back to the ER in 1mth and I have no clue what kind of damages it has done to her, she could have some serious damages from this, i dont know what was going on there or if he was cooking it or what but honestly I think that is really messed up and thats all i have to say about this subject.

    -- Posted by happymother on Mon, Jul 27, 2009, at 11:18 PM
  • I would like to comment on the blog about the mother of this creep working at Paul's. I was shocked that she allowed this to go on in her home and the fact that she would have been the last person in that building to get into that situation. Just goes to show "you just can't judge that book by it's cover" If Paul's would do a drug test on it's employees (that would take way too much out of steve and stan's wallet)....well, let's just say that they would lose probably 50% of the ones that are there and the others that would apply to replace them wouldn't get passed the p-test! All in all that just goes to show you that it's a nesting ground for cock roaches....

    -- Posted by idaho61 on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 12:41 AM
  • Funny---it is not the first time this lady was involved in this. Please see the other stories from the MHN.

    http://www.mountainhomenews.com/story/1181177.html

    http://www.mountainhomenews.com/story/1217085.html

    "Susan B. Talamantez, 49, pleaded guilty to an amended felony charge for criminal solicitation to commit a crime. She was sentenced to seven days jail time and credited with 21 days. Talamantez was placed on probation for five years and ordered to pay restitution of $450. She had fines of $250 and court costs of $97.50."

    Well, I guess that was a lesson well learned. Guess a PV charge will also be pending. So, was this a rental house that the landlord will now be stuck with or did she ruin her own home? People who do these things with children in the home should be strung up. What a waste of flesh.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 10:05 AM
  • Once hooked on Meth, Always hooked on meth. So it should not surprize anyone that these people keep getting in trouble. There is No cure for Meth. Meth damages the Brain on the First go around, Rehab will not work, Prison is the only answer, and a long Prison term. nothing else will work. Meth People will Lie, Cheat, steal and sometime kill for meth, from family , friends,, they don't care, its a horrible drug, if thats what they want to call it a drug,

    -- Posted by Freedom on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 4:45 AM
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    Dear Freedom,

    I disagree with always hooked on meth always hooked on meth. I am STRONGLY against meth!! My wife was a meth addict and has been clean now for 4 yrs. And yes she is a role model and works for a very successful business in the Mountain Home Community. Yes it was a difficult time in our lives when she was using. And YEs she paid the price for her actions thru the courts and thru her family. Lots of money, the courts,probation, and people like yourself pointing fingers and running the mouth and not having any idea the effects. If you have not experienced it do not catagorize people. If you have not gone to classes or researched it do not catagorize people. Yes some have a tough road w/ addiction. Do you drink? If so, then you are a addict as well! I HATE METH and I belong to a group in Boise that is against it and it is called The Idaho Meth Project. www.idahomethproject.com please check out the site and get the truth about addiction. GET INVOLVED FREEDOM!! Yes the people arrested in this needs to pay their dues for what they have done! Not against that at all. If you are going to do the crime, do the time. If you would like I would love to sit down w/ you and give you details of what a family goes thru, and I am sure a recovering addict would love to tell you what it is like. So in the future do not catagorize people. Do you like it? Again not sticking up for METH, just found it disturbing about the comment. I am sure your back yard has some bad bones as well. NOBODY is perfect!

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 11:41 AM
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    Ohhh And Freedom Prison is not the only answer. Rehab does work. Where are you getting your information. You have blinders on and you do not have a clue. Are you a counselor? Are you a Doctor? Are you GOD? Yes any addict will lie, cheat, steal! Does not matter if you are a meth addict a pot, gambler, alcholic, sex, theif, you will lie cheat and or steal for your addiction. You dont not have a clue on your insinuations! Please research the information before you post such things!

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 11:46 AM
  • Yes, people who commit crimes should be punished, but really, who among us hasn't ever done anything wrong? And don't give some crap about "Yes, I've done things that were wrong, but not that bad!" If you consult the Bible (I'm not a big fan, but evidently lots of people on here claim to be) it'll tell you there are no varying degrees of sin, ie. stealing a candy bar is just as sinful as having a meth lab in your home. It'll also tell you not to judge others, if you don't want everyone else to begin judging you.

    -- Posted by sylvie21 on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 1:44 PM
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    My hat is off to you sylvie21. That backs up what I just explained to Freedom! Thanks again :)

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 2:18 PM
  • I don't believe its an Issue of Being Right V. Wrong, its what the Doctors say,, Meth burns both ends of the Pain Receptors of the Brain, once that happpens it cannot be fixed, its forever, thats why we have so much problems with Meth, we can send meth people to Rehab all day long and pay for it, however 99 pecent of them will fail, because its a medical problem that will not go away, its not an addiction problem, its like a person takes it and then it goes away, no it don't. people are really luckly if they move away from it, buy once on it for awhile, well they are done. until Doctors come up with some type of treatment everything else is wishfull thinking, and sorry to say at this point in time Prison is really the only way out of the problem and any who's been around people with this problem knows that its a life time deal.

    we can make feel good comments and say this not going on but facts are facts. Ive never seen anyone ever cured of meth, ever, and in the big pictures they have a life time full of problems that the rest of us have to pay for with our kids , property and lives,,,

    what I know of meth people the are great liars, thieves and killers and anyone who thinks their not all I can say those folks don't know what they are taking about and if you want well you go hang with them and save them, because I can you its not going to happen.

    Im not judging people, like Det. Friday would say, Just the Facts

    -- Posted by Freedom on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 2:50 PM
  • Remember Meth is NOT a Drug,, they just call it that. this is a hard Ind chemical, next people will say sniffing gas is a drug

    -- Posted by Freedom on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 2:56 PM
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    Anything that is to treat a illness is a drug. And if it intails a hallucinogen it is a drug, and yes such as gas. Come on get the facts before you post such idiotic statements. Dictionary maybe? No arguements just facts Freedom. And yes they are chemicals. Most medicines are some sort of a chemical Freedom.

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 3:17 PM
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    Freedom you are sooo wrong. I can show you 10 people that are addits. BTW once an addict always an addict and once a alcoholic always a alcoholoc. Once a thief always a theif. Once a rappist always a rappist. STOP JUDGING PEOPLE!! I would love to have these people talk to you and tell you this. My wife is not a theif nor a liar nor a killer!!! You do not have a clue! Yo uare someone who likes to judge. Meth is a very very dangerous chemical. SO is LSD and Heroin. Hey I dod Meth for a few yrs and the last time I used was 8 years ago. Do I have a urge to use? NO NO NO. So now what?? I have no desire and I am tottaly against it for the future kids that is going to rule our nation one day. SO who are you stating that once a user always a user? You do not have a clue! So sit back in your easy chair and read about it. Yeah dont try a rehab program because it does not work. Why do they have them then? You are living in a nut shell and I feel you need to pull your head out of the clouds and not be so "old fashioned" and get the facts talk to people who have used and see wha tthey are going thru.

    Again I am not sticking up for those who use, not the people that have recently got into trouble w/ the law. I just wish you would get the straight up facts not just the negative facts but both positive and negative and then make the statements. I am sure you do not have the perfect life, because if you did you would not pass judgement onto others!!!!!!

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 3:28 PM
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    BTW Freedom, yeah I can pull it up on the internet and get little blurbs to. But you read not even a 1/1000 of the information about it. So dont read the first 2 paragraphs and think you know all there is to know about it. Gesh!!! What a sheltered dream you live in!

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 3:31 PM
  • I'm with you, Bostonfan - Freedom, it's wrong to judge everyone by what you've experienced. Or by what you believe to be true. Your beliefs boil down to just that - beliefs. The fact that you believe it does not make it fact. My mother is a recovering alcoholic. She hasn't had a drink in over 6 years. She is not a thief, a liar, or a criminal. She's never been a thief or a criminal, even when she drank. People can change. It may not be common, but it happens. Bostonfan's wife and my mother are living proof that you are wrong. Not everybody is an addict for life. You can't dispute that. The fact that they are here, and sober, means you cannot be right in your belief that no one changes. It's similar to what I hear on a daily basis about being a vegetarian. People are constantly telling me they read or heard "facts" telling them that people cannot live without meat. Hello... the fact that I'm here talking to them (and have not eaten a bite of meat in 8 years) means they're wrong! Freedom, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and admit you're wrong. There's nothing wrong with that - it happens to the best of us :)

    -- Posted by sylvie21 on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 4:48 PM
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    Have a nice day!

    -- Posted by Bostonfan on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 10:22 PM
  • TY,OM

    I have been through hell since that boy took his car into my house, and still am.

    I really Hope he can get the help he really needs.I hope he can find the support he needs to help him Get away from this bad bad stuff.Your in my prayers tommy,colleen

    -- Posted by danecoat on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 10:45 PM
  • Please don't but people who drink booze and smoke pot in the same class as people who do METH, not the same thinh in any manner at all

    Meth is a class all by itself, don't believe let one of them live with you for awhile and after they promise you the will never do Meth again, well you can go down to the Pawn shop to get your property back, live with one for about 10 years then you'll understand. if People believe Meth is like booze or Pot why does the court sent them to prison, Facts are Facts, PRISON WORKS TOO PROTECT THE PUBLIC and it works well, Rehab, can't say the same for that, and with Prez O's New Health care Plan, oh man People with Cancer will be standing in line for health care behind people who Need Rehab for Meth, I can see it coming. what a tax payers Rip OFF, Rehab what bunk

    -- Posted by Freedom on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 7:46 AM
  • I'm not lumping everyone together, Freedom. I'm just saying that people can change, even if it isn't the norm. Please don't be offended. That's not my intention. And people have been put in prison for other drugs besides meth. Ever hear of George Jung? I don't believe meth was part of his repertoire. Every drug is a chemical, unless it's herbal, in which case it's an herb. If rehab can work for other drugs, it can work for meth. A chemical is a chemical is a chemical. And btw, have you ever done meth? I haven't, so I don't feel it's my place to judge whether or not rehab is successful, etc. Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes... isn't that how the saying goes?

    -- Posted by sylvie21 on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 8:42 AM
  • I would like to see the Mtn Home news do like the newspaper back home. Every Sunday paper comes with a neat little mugshot of everybody that was arrested for the week... Maybe people in our small town would think twice....

    -- Posted by Idahogrinder on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 6:17 PM
  • And with the Number of times they've been arrested,, all charges, then people will know, its almost the same people over and over and over again, tax payers sure got alot of money too blow

    -- Posted by Freedom on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 11:23 AM
  • Yes...fine them and then reduce/suspend that amount to near nothing and send them to jail but suspend that as well. Way to teach "em" a lesson. It is no wonder they commit crimes over and over again. 3 squares a day and a place that is cool to sleep where you do not have to clean up after yourself or pay room/board.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 3:29 PM
  • well,,,, seems most of you folks are worried about the almighty dollar.... you have no idea what it is like to suffer an addiction so strong that you would give up everything for it...

    rehab works if it is geared toward rehab and not money, unfortunatlely mr and mrs tax paying addict can not afford to go to rehab....

    ""let he who is without sin cast the first stone""

    12 years clean ans sober from meth and everything else must all be in my imagination.... how dare anyone say another CAN NOT acheive a longed for goal!!!

    HELP US ALL!!

    -- Posted by anbuh on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 7:59 PM
  • First off (to those who have used) YOU made the choice to use that first time. Most out there know that meth is the most addictive drug known and it only takes one time to hook a person (or so it is said). YOU made a choice to use. There are a lot more people out there that have made the choice NOT to use. So sorry, I do not feel sorry for people who make a CHOICE to use. You had 2 paths to walk down and CHOSE to use. I understand addiction and grew up with it which, is one reason, I CHOSE to stay away from all of that crap. People with addiction in their genetics are more likely to end up hooked on something. So why not stay away from it in the first place knowing that? This is not about throwing stones. You learn right and wrong through life. It is always a CHOICE which way to go and it was YOUR choice.

    To all who are clean and have their lives back together, congratulations! However, addiction is a lifelong battle and it is a long, hard road. It is great that some of you have made the choice to get clean and stay clean. Some of you may want to go to the schools and talk about what you went through so that our future generations know the facts and how it can ruin your life. It is always nice to put a face with the problem. Contact Mr. McMurtrey if you would be willing to do that. It could be a great program for prevention, IMHO. They have had other programs like it. Educate. That will be the best prevention.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sat, Aug 1, 2009, at 7:36 AM
  • Could be,, but stats do show that rehab for Meth,, really does not work, for a small few people can say yes it works, Ive been around people who USE for about 45 years Plus, If Rehab worked for Meth why do we have such a probem with it and its not about Money, its about public Safety and Prison Ive seen really works to protect the Public, it removes the Meth Head,, we should have a three strikes Law that would be better than drug court and with Meth traffic-ing should be one strike out, you're out,, rehab in prison that will work

    -- Posted by Freedom on Sun, Aug 2, 2009, at 1:17 PM
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    Freedom, having been a drug officer while in Law Enforcement I doubt that you've been around anyone who has been a user for 45+ years. Unless it's alocohol or pot. Just a few years on meth is enough to wear a body out. I've seen people who were "hardcore" meth users for as few as 3 years that were burnt to a crisp. A human body isn't designed to stay up for 6-7-8 days at a time with no sleep or food. The human mind can't deal with months on end of the paranoia that comes with meth. To those of you who have been on it and gotten clean I applaud you. It took one class for me where they actually showed us the chemicals used in the manufacture of meth to turn my stomach. No one in their right mind would put ONE of these chemicals in their body seperatley but mix it into a cocktail and they are HOOKED. This "drug" is diabolical in nature. The people who set up labs in cars, hotel rooms and houses are playing russian roulette with a loaded automatic pistol and the safety is off. The children in these homes are potentially harmed for life. They can actually take hair samples from these children to see how long they were exposed to the cooking chemicals. There's a reason a haz-mat team is called to clean up after they find a lab. Several of the chemicals are corrosive and some are explosive in nature. AND THIS HOUSE WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ELDERLY AND CHILDREN. These people need to be given as stiff a sentence as the state can level at them. Sure they will be a burden on society but better that then to have them out poisoning people with this garbage they were making.

    -- Posted by mhbouncer on Sun, Aug 2, 2009, at 11:28 PM
  • Doubt is good,, but facts are facts,, Ive been bikers and Junkies all my life,,, alot longer than youve been law enforcement unless youve been a undercop for 60 years, and believe me people have been taking Meth that long, and some alot longer, you have been in law enforcement, however I lived it, see it , touch it,,,I have friends Kill themselfs with its. most my frieds are either , Dead, in Prison, or wishing they where Dead, eveyone Ive known Is gone.

    just because you're cop don't mean you know whats going on, if you did why do this have this problem and why pot still not legal, its appears that The Government can't get nothing Right does it

    -- Posted by Freedom on Mon, Aug 3, 2009, at 8:53 AM
  • this one is for MISSYOPINION

    since you only use it your name suits you ... correct that addiction is in genetics, it is also caused by not being able to cope with a selfish society and the way people treat eachother...

    alcohol is just as deadly as meth so go see how many people you see lying on the side of the highway or off cliffs from drunk driving....

    if you have never used you dont know how easy it is for a child to try anything to escape a horrible life.........

    the crap in the media does not help but it is condoned... try looking for the symptoms that cause this DISEASE and not the negative rewards!!

    -- Posted by anbuh on Mon, Aug 3, 2009, at 5:44 PM
  • anbuh, you can find many reasons for why people do things but it is still a choice. Many people have bad lives and do not drink or use drugs. Many people are not treated very nice by society but go on to live good, productive lives. It is all about good choices v. bad choices. I grew up with a drunk as a child---I know all about bad choices. My father made a choice to drink. He made a choice to get a DUI. Court sent him to rehab. He made a choice to continue to drink and has made that choice for the last 25 years. Choices. Good or bad.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Tue, Aug 4, 2009, at 9:07 AM
  • The more I think/read about this the more I get frustrated...I live in this neighborhood, have kids that walk by this house and this crap was going on...

    Whats even more frustrating is the owner, dad , husband whoever he is, is still running around free...Why isnt he in jail??

    You cant tell me that in that small house like that he didnt know whats was going on...Am I missing something???

    Our whole neighborhood was put in harms way because of the concious decisions these folks made...

    Our whole neghborhood should be in an up-roar to get that place cleaned up...Its a rat hole

    -- Posted by concernedneighbor on Tue, Aug 4, 2009, at 6:19 PM
  • I am SICK TO DEATH of DRUG ADDICTS

    MAKING EXCUSES WHEN THEY BEHAVE BADLY

    trying to deflect their taking of responsibility whenever they act in ways that have negative consequence for innocent others.

    IF YOU DID "IT" then YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE

    REASONS as to WHY YOU DID IT don't erase the fact THAT YOU DID SOMETHING - YOU and YOU alone - THAT THERE WERE CONSEQUENCES FOR ANOTHER OR OTHER innocent parties (people).

    WHY YOU DD IT (addiction or other circumstances) has RELEVANCE to how you might be judged, sentenced - how society will accommodate your ADDICTION and the ACTIONS you ascribe to it.

    Yes ADDICTION CAN BE HARD. But I don't recall seeing anyone place a gun to your head the first time you "LIT UP" or "SHOT UP" or "POPPED THAT LITTLE PILL". Yes - their may have been all kinds of horrible things happening in your life. Your childhood may have bee truly bad. There are plenty of people in plenty of circumstances who get handed a really bad - unfair - unjust even, card in life. Its what you do in the face of such circumstances that reveals the kind of person you are. No one makes you do bad things regardless that you may be so unfairly treated. Goodness is goodness - bad is evil.

    Yes I believe their are tangible reasons for addiction. I also believe addicts who are serious in their desire to management/treat their addiction should have viable access to services.

    PEOPLE must BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

    I think this is critical cornerstone to any notion of civilized society. Their are simply too many of us humans living on top of each other to allow people who negatively affect the lives of others - to be "excused".

    ________________________________________

    I now find myself thinking about the recent financial "disaster". Those "criminals" on Wall St and in other nice, safe, opulent places.

    In my view it wasn't really a DISASTER - though it had disastrous consequence for completely innocent people everywhere.

    These events were the consequence of GREED

    and a government that allows it to be ennacted unbridled - even supported.

    PEOPLE (behind Corporations) apply their immense creativity, skill and freedom with often the sole purpose of making themselves richer without any notions of ethics nor compassion to their fellow citizens - extracting money from the pockets of the masses.

    Their IS NO LONGER a "For The People - By The People".

    Big Business controls government.

    Government protects Big Business with claims about FREEDOM and CAPITALISM and THE AMERICAN DREAM - a dream for whom?

    Some 70% if Americas wealth is vested in less than 10% of its population.

    Doesn't this seem a bit skewed to you???

    WAKE UP AMERICA before this once proud nation

    with so much to be proud about

    is a third world country asking China how how to jump.

    -- Posted by WingedOne on Wed, Nov 18, 2009, at 5:07 PM
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