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Where no compromise leads

Posted Monday, May 2, 2011, at 3:40 PM

In 1860, the Democratic Party met in Charleston, S.C., to hold its national convention and select its candidate for president.

In those days, the Democrats were the conservatives and the "Black Republicans," the new party just entering the national political scene, were the radical liberals advocating significant changes to the policies of society and government.

A vocal and determined minority of Democrats at that convention opposed the nomination of Stephen A. Douglas as president. Douglas had a good chance of winning if the party would unite behind him. But his opposition (almost all from slave states), which would break away from the party and ultimately hand the presidency to Lincoln, actually hoped Douglas would lose and Lincoln would win. Not because they supported Lincoln, but because they believed -- correctly as it turned out -- that if Lincoln won it would trigger a wave of seccession across the south.

Lincoln, himself, had made it clear he did not intend to free the slaves or alter the institution of slavery (that would come later, when the Civil War was in its full-blown gory splendor).

But that vocal minority of Democrats meeting in South Carolina that year didn't want the federal system to work anymore. They wanted it to break. They didn't want to compromise on any issue. They would rather see the federal government broken than have to succumb to the will of a majority of the people of the entire nation.

The issues are different today, but in the early years of this 21st century, we are facing a similar determination by another vocal minority -- the Tea Party -- to resist any law they don't like to a point where they are willing, almost eager, to see the government broken than be forced to compromise.

As it did 150 years ago, the art of compromise, which is such an important part of our federal system, has died. It is a result of the massive polarization of politics we see occurring in our nation today, and it frightens the heck out of me.

Compromise, a movement toward the center of the political spectrum, is vital to the success of our democracy. When any significant group decides it will not compromise, and has enough votes to make it happen, then the entire system begins to break down. Legislative gridlock ensues. Debate gets deflected from the vital "nuts and bolts" issues of running the government to issues of the moment that merely eat up time, energy and good will.

"My way or the highway" does not make for effective government.

Pelosi's heavy-handed tactics did it for four years before the 2010 election and now the leaders of the Tea Party movement are doing it -- and dragging the more reasonable elements of the Republican Party with them. Intransigence is an equal opportunity empowerer. And it is guaranteed to lead our government into a failure mode that may very well destroy us.

The inability of those who lose a political battle to accept the will of the people, as expressed through their elected representatives, is a dangerous development in American politics.

I want fewer Pelosis and Reids and Bachmans and Pauls, and more Mike Simpsons and Mike Crapos -- leaders who will fight for their principals but accept that compromise toward the middle of the road is necessary for effective government.

Too many political leaders in states across the south and the intermountain basin of the west increasingly seem more interested in destroying the federal government than fixing it. Perhaps the scariest development of all is the rise of the seccessionist movement. Unable to accept the law of the land, unwilling to seek compromise, there is a growing element on the political landscape that calls for measures that would break away from the confines of federal law.

From nullification efforts to outright calls for seccession, some states, Idaho included, are trying to break the compact they made when they entered the union.

I fear not the threats from outside to the greatness of this nation, but the pernicious eroding of the sense of national self from the sectarian hardliners who have rejected the art of compromise as an instrument of political policy.

I truly believe that we must elect candidates in the 2012 election who do not hold hard-core positions, who believe in the value of a slow, deliberate development of policies based on compromise, and a more fluid definition of principals. People who want the government to work, not freeze up and break.

If we don't, we are headed down a road similar to that which resulted from the Democratic convention 150 years ago.


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RIGHT.......IF THE WEATHER IS NICE WE WILL BE OUTSIDE ON THE PATIO.......THAT IS WHEN WE PLAY AS A QUINTET,OTHERWISE I WILL BE INSIDE DOING A TRIO THING.........AND I THINK THAT IS A TUESDAY.......ANYHOW LOOK FORWARD TO IT ...... TAKE CARE

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 11:30 AM

HEWBET WRONG.......I DONT KNOW WHATS WITH THE ADDRESSE UNLESS IT IS PENGILLEYS?????????lookn at it and do it again that is a web page......or better still go to it and send me something.

I TOLD YOU HE COULDNT SHUT UP NOT FOR A DAY

REPUB PROMISE ELECT US WE WILL MAKE JOBS .......EXSCUSE ME WHEN?????????? NOTHING IS DONE OVERNIGHT.8 YRS MAKING IT BUT CHANGE IS EXPECTED IN 2.5. THATS REALISTIC???????????

EVEN PRES REAGAN COULDNT DO THAT....BUT THEN AGAIN I WOULDNT KNOW I DONT BOW AT HIS ALTAR

GOT TO GO.........TO FUNNY

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM

I PERSONALLY DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR VIEWS HOMMER .THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM AND THERE GREAT PEOPLE.

yOU ARE THE ONLY NAME CALLER.YOUR THE ONLY ONE WHO STARTS SENTENCES WITH " you moron.you stupid etc)I'LL say it again who do you think you are????

I know you will still respond you cant help yourself......WHY?.....Because anyone you consider less than.,you will not stop,you have to feel superior.YOU PROBALLY BELIEVE IN MANFEST DESTINEY SO YOUR BEHAVIOR IS EXPECTED.IV BEEN HIP TO YOU FOR MONTHS AND IM SURE MRS M HAS TOO.I WAS GLAD TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN READING AND SAW IT TOO. WELL WE WILL SEE YOU WHEN YOU RESPOND BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEWBET.....hope you got the directons??????????

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 9:55 PM

Yeaaaaa High fives HewBet,Lamont It took awhile but we "gotter done"

Thank you my henchmen and my little pack of Chihuahuas! I will miss you homer, take care, I enjoyed everyone of your posts as you are very entertaining....

I will mark this day on my calender and light a candle on the same day each year, in memory of Homer.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 9:26 PM

Republican's say heath care repeal is DEAD

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05...

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 4:35 PM

THEN DONT TALK,,,,,,,,,,GETTING OLD YES.......GETTING STUPID........AFRAID NOT.......

POMPOUS......NOPE.......RACIST .......NOPE.......

ERASMUS HALL. GREAT SCHOOL.....BILLY CUNNINGHAM,BARABRA STRIESAND,BOBBY FISHER,TO NAME A FEW.....SAME GRADUATION CLASS........STILL HAVNT STOPED NAME CALLING.....CANT GET AWAY FROM IT CAN YOU??????????? MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD???????? DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR IMAGE........THATS ALREADY IN PLACE...........HA,HA,HA, DO YOU FEEL PICKED ON??????????? YOU BEEN ASKING FOR IT......HAVE YOU NOTICED...... HOMMER..... you are the only one NAME calling........

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 3:18 PM

Thanks Guys for the Mothers Day wishes, that was nice :)

Homer my comment wasn't even addressed to you so I don't know why you had to answer for zook unless he has designated you as his spokes person? He has in the past always answered posts directed to him without your help

Homer I am beginning to believe your nothing but a mole and a very incredible one at that.

Definition of incredible: Not believable, almost beyond belief, as an incredible story

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 12:16 PM

OH I ALMOST FORGOT........I DONT NEED YOUR ADVICE,PERMISSION,CONSENT,APPROVAL AND ON IT GOES. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE HOMMER TRY AND GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.....AND IF YOU GET IN MY WAY I WILL RUN YOU OVER.......BECAUSE YOUR NOT SMART ENOUGH TO MOVE...........COME ON, COME ON, ILL BE YOUR HUCKLEBERRY............(LAUGH)

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 11:07 AM

DID YOU NOTICE THE STEREO TYPE??...PO ME ??? IS THAT THE WAY YOU ENUNCIATE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE HOMMER?????? OR ARE YOU JUST FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ??????????? AND THAT HAS BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME.......HOMMER DO YOU HAVE A MIRROR AT HOME???????? USE IT HOMMER OR DOES IT SCARE YOU?????????

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY MS M AND MANY MORE

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 11:02 AM

Homer I knew you would love my message and would have to pull out your insulting and name calling card, you silly clueless little boy... It' my opinion and you can't handle it, and your only answer can be insults. You really show yourself on the blogs except you hide under a screen name...

Why don't you come out of hiding when you hand out your insults?

Happy Mothers Day Me

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, May 8, 2011, at 9:02 AM

Zook they disguise the slurs and say it's politics

no one in this day and age want to say "I"m A Racist" unless their proud to be one

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, May 7, 2011, at 2:30 PM

HewBet, no one agrees with everything someone in the news business says. I don't watch Fox News or any other news. Life is too short to be told what the news is. I'm well aware of the situation with this administration and their views of military health care. Military retirees have been paying for health care since President Clinton was in with a democratic congress and as of today this admin is trying to raise the cost of health care for military retirees. That fake email was generated because of what was said by this admin., they thouhgt they could generate five hundred and some odd million by doing it.

-- Posted by skeeter on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 11:42 AM

So I'm a racist for bloggimg my opinion HewBet? And then Msm thanks you for your post about my blog when you call me a racist.

-- Posted by skeeter on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 6:01 AM

Zook I googled it and here is what I found. There was a lot more to the article and many other links to copy and paste, but I chose to only copy a little and if you or any one has any doubts what I copied then google it....

It is understandable that Native Americans are unhappy about it. But it should be remembered that there is a difference between these associations and some other 19th cultural references that reflected despicable American racist attitudes toward African-Americans. Geronimo may have been an enemy to the Americans that fought him. But he was a foe they regarded with deep respect, as well they might, considering that he and his band ran rings around the U.S. Cavalry that sought to capture him. If, in the decades after he was run down, American paratroopers yelled "Geronimo" as they jumped out of airplanes, it was a sign that his name had become a symbol of martial ferocity, not one of contempt or racism.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 5:22 PM

Zook I will check for it, didn't see it today when I checked my email

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 5:13 PM

My husband is Cherokee and he's not upset by the use of the word "Gerinomo" What tribes are you talking about Zook? I'll do a search on it :)

Homer you must be referring to your posts when you mention "after reading the stupidity on these blogs lately"

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 11:42 AM

You can dish it out but can't take it homer?

What was wrong with my saying "God Old Boys Club"?

Isn't that what it is, or do lady's hang out there too????

I don't know I have never been there....

mean spirited? no more then you on these blogs...

I guess old lady's can get a little cranky..... hmmmmm

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 10:05 AM

Homer I did vote for the right man, it sure wasn't going to be McCain..... And since I voted for Obama I will support him. If I don't support him then my vote wouldn't of counted..... Now go ahead and pick this statement all apart.... only because you 1. don't like Obama

2. you don't like my answer

And 3. remember it's my opinion

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 8:46 AM

I did extensive fact checking and looks like he did try to get it by. But if it was a joke, something to joke about huh?

-- Posted by skeeter on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 7:04 AM

HewBet Thank you I appreciate your comment. I have been seeing untruths about Obama posted on these blogs one month after he set foot in the White House.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 3, 2011, at 8:38 PM

skeeter did you do a fact check on your comment? If you had you would of found out that there was an email circulating in 09 That contained fabricated quotes and misrepresents a budget idea that the White House scrapped. The quotes were intended as satire. Wasn't true !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 3, 2011, at 6:40 PM

Yea this president's humor is priceless like when he tried to float the idea of having troops pay for their own medical insurance and then send them to war. I'm still laughing about that one.

-- Posted by skeeter on Tue, May 3, 2011, at 6:09 PM

Oh my Homer and Zook have bonded and are having a meet-up today at the Good Old Boys Club...Kudos do you.

Our President has a wonderful sense of humor. lol !

Sunday night while waiting for him to come on TV, I was scrolling through the news feed on face book, and a lot of lady's were complaining that his speech was going to pre-empty "The Donalds" "Celebrity Apprentice" and they wouldn't know who was getting the boot.

I think our President with his great sense of humor planned it that way, sort of like revenge on Mr. Trump. lol !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, May 3, 2011, at 3:52 PM

Homer

to be all hat and no cattle

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, May 2, 2011, at 6:42 PM

But its defective

-- Posted by jtrotter on Mon, May 2, 2011, at 6:17 PM

B. I am just laughing my fool head off and you know why LOL

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Mon, May 2, 2011, at 3:44 PM
Brenda Fincher, Bus. Mgr., MHNews
Gotcha covered!!

Fixed - Thank You. B

-- Posted by Brenda Fincher Publisher MHNews on Mon, May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM


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