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Libyan actions fall short

Posted Wednesday, March 23, 2011, at 9:01 AM

America's involvement in Libya, adding yet another war to its list of combat zones, undoubtably saved the Libyan people from a bloodbath.

At the request of the Arab League, the United Nations passed a resolution that virtually gave carte blanche to the U.S. and its allies to intervene in the Libyan civil war.

At literally the last minute, allied aircraft tore into Kaddaffi's armor and artillery at the outskirts of Benghazi, averting the massacre the Libyan dictator had promised.

But with all of the allies declaring no ground forces will be used, any swift resolution of this conflict is unlikely.

In fact, the political and military command structure of the allied effort appears to be murky, at best, and the rules of engagement we are using will not force Kaddaffi from power. That will be up to the rebel forces and they simply aren't capable of taking on any organized opposition of the government forces. A mob of rebels armed with AK-47 automatic rifles and handguns cannot conduct effective operations against an organized army equipped with heavy weapons.

Short of a palace coup, which may or may not solve the problem, all we've been able to accomplish, and all it looks like we intend to accomplish, is to give the rebels a little breathing space. We've simply created a pause in the civil war, but nothing we have done or said we will do at this point is going to end it.

The rebels will need to be rearmed and trained. That could take months, at best. And since the allied forces have indicated they won't be doing that, it would almost certainly have to fall to the Arab League, which doesn't seem at this point to have the moral fortitude to go that far.

Our military forces have, as usual, performed brilliantly, but as much as intervention was undoubtably the right thing to do -- on a moral and humanitarian level -- it doesn't look like this was well thought out at the political level.

In fact, we seem to have boxed ourselves into a position guaranteed not to solve the long-term problem.

No one seems to have a clear "end game" plan right now, and like the other wars we've been fighting, this one looks, unfortunately, like it is going to drag on for far longer than anyone can guess at this point.


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We have CIA agents in almost every Country. Always have...

I know this as my first Husband worked at the Pentagon in DIA and sometimes a CIA Agent would call the wrong number and get DIA instead. And he had to have more then a top clearance to work at the Pentagon in DIA

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Apr 1, 2011, at 12:16 PM

YOU KNOW THE OIL COMPANYS ARE SITTING ON PERMITS AND NOT DRILLING HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS,WONDER WHY???????????aNYBODY GOT AND ANSWER??????????going to have to find out the rational on that one.ANYHOW ID LIKE TO SEE THE ANSWER TO THAT BEFORE I GET ON THE PRES. BUTT ABOUT THE NO DRILLING.i DO KNOW THE NO DRILLING IS FOR OFF SHORE SAME DEPTH AS THE DESASTER.BUT FOR THE MOST PART THAT HAS BEEN LIFTED.

I would think you need to use what you have before you look for more seems like the cart before the horse,but then again it could be they KNOW they have on shore locked and want to get to off shore before the competition.Worth finding out but id bet thats it.If it is dont blame the PRES.FOR THAT.they could be trying to force them to drill.But there method is faulty because you and I will probally pay for it.IM FOR USE OR LOOSE.THEY DO IT TO THE LITTLE GUY DO IT TO THE BIG GUY.

-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 30, 2011, at 3:49 PM

SHADES OF AFGANASTAN....didnt we give them weapons also to fight the soviets......come on people this really makes no sense at all.IF the french want them to have weapons let them give them to them.....we need to feed and cloth our own.AND YES WE GIVE MONEY TO UGANDA.AND THAT NEEDS TO STOP OTHER THAN AIDS.

YOU KNOW i dont think anyone really knows whats going on and there just doing something until they figure it out.I hate to say this, they better ask the MOSSAD LAISON IN THE AREA.........

-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Mar 30, 2011, at 1:06 PM

I think your right skeeter on both accounts....enough thats what I say ENOUGH.........WE NEEDED NONE OF THIS FROM IRAQ TO LIBYA .........LET THERE KIDS GO FIGHT IT.....TO EASY TO SEND OURS.......LIKE THE SARG SAID ......ECONOMIC CONSCRIPTION.....WHAT A TOLL????????? FOR WHAT ????????

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 9:09 PM

I dont think Obama was a senator when the vote was held for the Irag resolution and I think Hillary voted for it. We have no business in Libya.

-- Posted by skeeter on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 7:34 PM

I COULD GO FOR THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GETTING OUR MONEYS WORTH FROM IRAQ.they were sopposed to pay there war with oil that was part of the deal everybody has seem to forgotten that and that INCLUDES THE PRESIDENT .....HE SHOULD REMEBER HE VOTED AGAINST THE WAR.AND SO DID HILLARY.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR OIL TO BE THAT HIGH.....kinda like the exscuse they give us for the price of gas in idaho, always one of the highest in the nation.

NATO is under our control for all practical puposes so we are really telling a lie.I understand the international implications however we need another conflict like a hole in the head.We cant pick the time and place but we dont need to interced when we cant finish the job.AGAIN TURN SPEC OPS LOOSE THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.KHADAFI should have been gone long ago.if we are championing democracy then we havnt done a good job ,we have been backing DICTATORS who serve OUR intrest for years.THEY DONT EVEN DISGUISE THERE DICTATORSHIPS.

the syrians will be next and they will be BRUTAL there history shows it,so then what?????

THIS is getting to be a mess.How about us setting it out and just cleaning up the MESS??????????????

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM

Yep I worked the F first then the A and had my fill of them. I was here pulling stand by every other nite and weekend after the F-4's left. Was here when the first F111F arrived and it sure was nice to see an aircraft brand new from the factory that we were going to get to work on. Stayed while they build all 4 squadrons then was off to Germany and back to the F-4E for 3 years and then back to MH and the F-111A which was in sorry condition after coming from Nellis to here but as time when on finally got all of them flying again. Also was here when the first EF came back and retired before they retired the F111 all history now.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 4:00 PM

That could very well be I am not up to date on what the Aussies are flying now or the past few years but it was the C model when they were here, for all I know they took a combo of C's and A's and come up with the G but I don't have a clue on that.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 3:49 PM

The assuies have been flying the F-111C for alot of years and even been to MHAFB a couple of times on a TDY and they purchased some of the F-111A's when we retired them not sure of the tail numbers but 7113 was one of them. The C model with the aussies has the long wing like the FB-111A did.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 3:27 PM

Homer you are such a nice guy :)

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 3:04 PM

ZOOK....DID YOU CK OUT THE F-15SE.....THAT REALLY BOTHERED MEthat is a money saver ,and its right now....going to the saudies and they had this built 5 yrs ago.....and we keep talking about saving.Also ck out the modifications to the greek af f-16.I would like to think that we sold them ours but i cant seem to find that out.Some of the last blocks were very capable to say the least.IM SURE the story on the pig woke you up.........see ya

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 3:01 PM

Eagle eye

There's nothing wrong with copy and paste or providing links. Whats wrong is when a person copys and pastes and say's its theirs. I happen to like honesty

As far as Homer and his insults Here's one I got from him the other night when all I did was say this

"Homer someone replied to your comment on another blog Did you read it?"

Here's what he had to say

"Sorry to respond so late. Had it not been for MsMarylin and her complete lack of life, I might never have seen your response. Thanks, MsMarylin! I can always count on you to head the Liberal Sewing Circle of the blogs!"

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 2:55 PM

TO j TROTTER .....THANKYOU I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAY.......I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING MY OPINIONS AS FAIRLY AS I CAN AND I WILL NOT CALL ANYONE A MORON OR STUPID JUST BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE.....I READ INCESSANTLY ABOUT MANY SUBJECTS.i try to bring a differnt side to think about before we get to the absolute.There are few absoluts. and that was what my first post was about....TO EAGLE EYE ...I SEE YOUR POST AND I RECOGNIZE THEM I DONT SEE ANYTHING ONE SIDED ABOUT A DIFERRENT IDEA. WHEN SOME ONE WHO HAS NOT LIVED MY LIFE AND HAS NOT BEEN DISRCIMNATED AGAINST THE WAY I HAVE TELLS ME ITS A LIE,TELL ME HOW THAT POSSIBLE IN THE ABSOLUTE WITHOUT ASKING A QUESTION.......YOU DONT BELIEVE ASK A QUESTION. I TYPE THE WAY I TYPE BECAUSE ITS EASIER I DIDNT STUDY TYPING .WHEN I CAME THROUGH SCHOOL WE HAND WROTE EVERYTHING.

I LIKE POSING QUESTIONS AND FOOD FOR THOUGHT BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS A RATIONAL FOR EVERYTHING I MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

NAME CALLING IS NOT PART OF MY DAILY AGENDA AND WHEN A PERSON SAYS I REACHED OUT BUT THEY STARTED BY USING A DEROGATORY REMARK I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT WORKS......PLEASE EXPLANE THAT TO ME

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 2:42 PM

Bazooka,

This is part of my conundrum, why did we choose to be involved in Libya and not Syria? My personal opinion is that Khadafy is Obama's Sadaam; he wants him for some reason. The Syrians fight alongside Al Qaeda and they harbor Al Qaeda training camps, seems like they would be the target of choice. If any country needs a change of leadership it is Syria. For all of these reasons; I don't think we will go to Syria.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 2:30 PM

Lamont...... I have read and followed all the comments by you and others. Every since you showed up here to comment there has always been race, anger, and the anger is shown by the CAPS on most of your comments and you have been told that before but continue. I could care less about your spelling and grammer, we all make mistakes including me and I have done my share. When it comes to name calling you want to stay right at the top of the list and say you never do that but your comments say otherwise. Also you say you always use the persons ID when commenting to them, sure doesn't look that way from what I am seeing. Maybe if you get that "chip" off your shoulder you may find there are alot of good people commenting on here. Maybe its time you look in the mirror and quit be so one sided, everyone opinion counts not just yours.

To all those that been addressing the copy and paste, what is the problem you don't like people to do that or what, that all part of the internet and very easy way to put in a link instead of the whole opinion from wherever you get the information. Gives other the right to read it or not thats up to the person.

In guess another is wondering I don't always use the whole ID when commenting back to someone or even care as long as it is read by the person it is intended for.

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 2:05 PM

Lamont,

You have made 16 different comments on this blog and have added zero value to the subject matter. Your opponent, Mtnhomer, not Hommer, has not been much better. I am not saying anything about your writing style, your spelling or your all capitals; I am saying that you have not mentioned anything constructive concerning the subject matter in Kelly's original blog. I bring this up to you because you seem to be the one that will not let up. You two have become just like a couple of 6 year olds: you called me a name: uh huh, you called me a name first... I find this sad because you both seem to have informed opinions and have shown the ability to bring them to the table. I try to find the opinions in these blogs that will make me think; help me see the other side of issues.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 12:33 PM

YES WE KNOW YOU HAVE ZERO RESPECT...........YOU START YOUR POST BY CALLING PEOPLE NAMES

1-IGNORANT,STUPID,MORON TO NAME A FEW

2- IF THEY DISAGREE YOU THEN ATTACK THE MESSENGER WHICH YOU SAY YOU DONT.

3= YOU THEN ATTEMPT TO SHOW US ALL HOW SUPERIOR YOU ARE WITH YOUR POST.

4- YOU LIE....."THIS IS MY PLAN....remember that?

5-YOU STEAL...PLAGERISM...,the plan in the heritage foundation?

6- YOU CHEAT.....CUT AND PASTE...remember that?

8- YOU BRING IN PEOPLE PARENTS......"DIDNT YOUR MOTHER TEACH YOU"

9- YOU ATTEMPT TO DEGRADE PEOPLE,THERE WORTH THEIR ABILITYS,THERE SERVICE..YOU JEALOUS??

10- WHEN ANYONE SAYS THEY DONT LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, OR CATCHES YOU IN A LIE YOU GO BALLISTIC.CONSIDER STOPPING.

11-LAST BUT NOT LEAST,,,,,YOU EXPECT TO CALL ME A NAME.......AND THEN YOU ARE GOING TO FORGIVE ME!!!!!!! YOU ARE TRULY A JOKE.THAT MAY WORK IN YOUR WORLD BUT NOT IN THE REAL WORLD.AND IF YOU DONT THINK THAT IS JUST WHAT HAPPENED WHY DONT YOU ASK ON THE BLOG.

I DONT NEED anything from you HOMMER i call you by your name because thats your name and that is the way it should be,and by doing that HOMMER SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WONDER WHATS YOUR PROBLEM??????

I RESPECT PEOPLES THOUGHTS...and i dont care if they can spell,see,talk,type.work etc,they deserve respect as being part of the HUMAN EQUATION.I DONT SINGLE OUT BLACKS ,WHITES ,WOMEN,INDIANS,CHINESSE OR ANYONE ELSE FOR SCORN AND RIDECULE,I DONT JUDGE WHAT THEY FEEL.I DONT JUDGE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THERE LIVES AND I DONT CALL PEOPLE LIERS WHEN I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED WHAT THEY HAVE.

YOU HAVE THE VICTIM MENTALITY you claim others have.THAT is why you do the things you do to people.IT ALL REALLY CAME TOGETHER WITH YOUR NAME CALLING AT SIGNELMAN.YOU WANTED A DEBATE YOU GOT IT,AND YOU COULDNT HANDLE IT.!!!!!!!! THE NAME CALLING STARTED,AND YOU ONLY SINGLED OUT WERE YOU WERE CONTRADICTED WITH FACT.

YOU DONT HAVE TIME???????.....YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR YOURSELF ,GET YOUR HEAD OUT AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD....... ITS REALLY NOT SO BAD

YOU CAN CALL ME ANY NAME YOU WANT,I KNOW WHO AND WHAT I AM AND WORTH. PEOPLE SUCH AS YOURSELF.....SERVE TO REMIND ME HOW BLESSED I AM

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 11:17 AM

Sorry guys, I am going to interupt your lovefest to comment on the original topic.

The massacre of thousands is OK as long it is in the name of humanitarian aid? The coalition bombings killed the aggressors from the Libyan Government that were threatening to kill thousands of aggressors to the Libyan Government. I guess I am confused by the facts. There is no threat to the United States or any of its allies by the events in Libya; the country has no value to the U. S. Why are we taking sides in a civil war?

The Libyan military is defenseless against the coalition technology; they can offer no effective resistance. It's like an AK-47 vs. a tank, an RPG vs. artillery. The facts will make you scratch your head won't they? The decision to spend millions of dollars on this effort boggles my mind almost as much as Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Tue, Mar 29, 2011, at 8:42 AM

LETS PUT IT THIS WAY,I HAVE A NAME JUST AS YOU DO I HAVNT CALLED YOU OUT OF IT YET.WHEN YOU GET TO A POINT THAT YOU CAN ADRESSE PEOPLE AS PEOPLE LET US ALL KNOW....THE BALL IS NOT IN MY COURT I AM NOT FALLING FOR THAT.....YOUR FIRST SENTENCE WAS OUT THERE........... SO AGAIN THE ONLY DOG OUT THERE IS YOU........HOMMER.....AND YOULL NOTICE I USED YOUR NAME ALWAYS HAVE.......I RESPECT PEOPLE YOU SHOULD TRY IT.........IT DOESNT HURT

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 9:53 PM

GO BACK IN THE ARCHIVES I DID NOT START THE INSULTS AND TRIED TO IGNORE BUT HOMMER YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CALL ME NAMES OR INSULT ME,MY FAMILY OR ANYONE WITH YOUR I DIDNT DO ANTHING INSULTS. YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE AND YOU INSULT AND THROW NAMES BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO BE RESPECTFULL.YOU THINK YOU ARE PREVILEGED AND CAN DO THAT WITH IMPUNITY.I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES NOT LIKE IT GO TO THE POST EVERY ANSWER CONTAINS AND INSULT SO HOMMER TAKE A LONG TRIP

AGAIN THE ONLY DOG HERE IS YOU...A FEMALE ONE

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM

Ha ! I get insults all the time from Homer...Got one last night just because I told him a comment was left for him on another blog.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 10:28 AM

HOMMER.........YOU CANT BEAT EVERYBODY HOMMER........YOU HAVE BEEN HAD MORE THAN ONCE DONT YOU GET TIRED OF BEING......ODD MAN OUT???

NO BODYS LISTENING HOMMER.......HOW YOU GRADE PEOPLE TO INCLUDE ME DOESNT COUNT.......NOBODY RESPECTS YOUR ATTITUDE........AND THE PROBLEM IS YOU DONT EVEN SEE IT..........SO QUITE POINTING FINGERS NOT JUST AT ME BUT EVERYBODY.....IIT'S OLD

YOU LIE ,CHEAT,AND STEAL AND YOU WANT US TO GO FOR IT ...........WRONG......WE KNOW ABOUT YOU .........

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 5:55 AM

I dont take that anyway but the way you said it,and i didnt not elaborate yes share holders and the bottom line.but using IRELAND AS AND EXAMPLE IS NOT THE BEST THEY ARE A TINY NATION.

wHAT THEY DONT TALK ABOUT IS THE TAXE LOOPHOLES THAT ALLOW THEM NOT TO PAY ANY TAXES.There is 2 sides to the story.I also know like they do that taxes are the lowest since ww2.The corporate alibi for there moves is to lower wages in america,if you think we have trouble now just wait.We will lower wages but prices will not change,result you will not be able to buy the things you have now.It will help to create a society were you have the top 2-3% living like kings and everyone else struggling to survive only being able to live from hand to mouth.That is what is starting to happen already.CK and see how much corporate America payed in taxes I think you will get a little upset.

There are some other factores also.Yes share holders demand a return on there investment,the bigger the return the more share holders the more demand to make more money and the circle keeps running,that is understood.AT some point the consummer will run out of funds and then what????

We need to be competitive to sell to others aLONG with importing.Sometimes you dont need to win the race you just need to be in it.There has to be a national corporate allegiance or we are in trouble. You are not busting anyones chops not mine anyhow.its nice to say what you have to say without being called names. I CAN GO FOR THAT ANYTIME.i hope I SHARED WITH YOU THANKS

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Mar 28, 2011, at 4:43 AM

YOU MAKE ME LAUGH........HOW DOES IT FEEL HOMMER???????????TO BE CALLED OUT BY EVERYONE.EVERYTHING YOU SAY OTHER PEOPLE ARE YOU SHOW YOU ARE. ARROGANT,DISREPECTFULL ,PERSON WHO CANT SEE BEYOUND HIS OWN SELFRIGHTNOUS,THOUGHT PROCESS,i didnt play a race card but you couldnt see that because you only see as you want to.Go AWAY HOMMER YOU ARE EXPOSED AND YOU ARE JUST MAKING IT WORSE.

ZOOK.... WE COULD HAVE HAD BEN LADEN and we didnt need nukes.......Nukes are a theater weapon of last resort you dont want to go there.The push for privitization didnt just start,it was there before you and I RETIRED......i ran a seminar on it in 1988...and we said no then, only it just got worse.GIVE YOU A THOUGHT....THE ONLY BRANCH OF THE SERVICES THAT CAN STILL FEED ITSELF IS THE NAVY,,, tongue in cheek........WE HAVNT SENT HALLIBURTON TO SEA YET. i HOPE YOU GET THE POINT.I am telling you turn spec ops loose we will have him in a month.

the world has changed and we are not alone nor do we need to rule the world.We have been looked upoun as trying to do that.I have been around the world more countrys than you know.All of them thanked us for our help but they didnt like us trying to tell them how to live.There culture are theres and we have a way of trying to tell them they are wrong.I GO BACK TO BEING A 1SGT IN THAILAND.kID comes in and he has a problem and he says " how come that dumb thai doesnt speak english" i told him we are the guests how about learning to speak thai.THAT KIDS ATTITUDE IS INDIGATIVE OF WHY WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE.I heard those kind of statements all over the world.WE send our people to do a job unprepared they should know something of OTHER culture and traditions not only for the friendlys but for a better understanding of your enemy. You know we took a lot of casuatlies because we did not understand the vietmen,the chinese came cross the 38th and just kept comming we killed them by the thousands and they kept comming.Understanding is not WEAKNESS.OUR ENEMYS STUDY OUR CULTURE WITH RESPECT TO EXPLOIT US BUT WE DONT DO THE SAME BECAUSE WE DONT RESPECT THEM THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

THE nation states are gaining parity and we cannot stop that it will happen.IT IS NOT ABOUT TAKING GARBAGE IT IS ABOUT FINDING COMMON GROUND WE WILL DO THAT OR RISK A WORLD WAR WITH NUKES.tHE LITTLE GUY WILL USE THEM, OF THAT I AM SURE,,,,EVEN THE ODDS.... i DONT WANT THAT AND NEITHER DO YOU.

FOREIGN AID SHOULD CEASE OTHER THAN EMERGENCY,I HAVE LONG SAID THAT AND I MEAN IT.

BUSH made a good call with the israelies and he backed it up with the patriot missiles,and ISRAEL agree.THEY WANTED REVENGE IN THE SHORT TERM BUT IT WAS NOT A GOOD LONG TERM MOVE.

DADT.... the MARINE CORP commandant had his say and on with the show.

if we are defeated from within I SAY GREED WILL BE THE REASON.WE MUST STAND UNITED. NOT I GOT MINE YOU GET YOURS.

LAST EVERYONE IN AMERICA HAS SOMETHING TO OFFER AND WE SHOULD LISTEN,I KNOW THATS HARD FOR SOME BUT IT'S REAL.

LT CALLEY SAID SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER.......'I WAS NOT RAISED TO SEE THEM AS EQUALS SO IT WAS EASY.....WITH THAT STATMENT HE MADE US ALL GUILTY.I LIVE WITH THAT EVERY DAY.......LATTER

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 9:02 PM

HE PROBALLY DID NOT MS M.....HE WOULD THEN HAVE TO REALIZE HE IS NOT GETTING OVER ON PEOPLE AS HE THINKS HE IS.GOOD FOR SIGNALMANM VERY WELL PUT.HE WILL ATTEMPT TO DEFLECT THAT ALSO..........TO bad that wont be possible,it was all said right there and it gets repeated anytime he doesnt like what is said.Anyhow thanks for sending me that way.

Zook i agree with myob,but its late in the game and we have went this way to often.PROBLEM,WE ARE STRETCHED TO THIN,BOTH MONETARILY AND EMOTIONALY,WE DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES,AS A NATION WE NEED TO SAY WE,YES WE HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING ALL WE CAN IF OTHERS WANT THIS DONE STEP UP.tHAT NEEDS TO COME FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.Again i say if there kids had to serve the decision they make would be more personall and just maybey they would take a second look,maybe even a third.

No western Nation is immuhe from attack and therfore can afford to sit it out.The attacks will continue and yes we will combat them but the oceans will not protect us for ever.The missile situation from a military stand point was not unexpected,and anyone who thinks it was doesnt no warefare.So now the issue will be at what point does the issues get out of hand and esculate beyond libya,do the missles wind up in afganastan,do we get to get to them before that happens,is the report true and have we verified.and what are our options if true.So before we jump of a cliff we have questions that need to be answered.PROBLEM....BASED ON OUR OWN INTELL FAILURES WHO DO YOU BELIEF????????? Do we get sucked in with faulty intell,phony rehetoric for political reasons,me i hate say this but we need to stop and go over this from DAY ONE.I SMELL A RAT.........SEE YA

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 4:29 PM

HOMMER ....THANKYOU.....BY CONDONING THE RACIST REMARKS MADE BY EL-RUSHBO ON FRIDAY YOU FINALLY TOOK OWNERSHIP. IM NOT THE ONE CAUGHT IN THE LIES,YOU ARE. SO HOMMER FOR YOUR NEXT TRICK DONT CUT AND PASTE ,DONT LIE,DONT TAKE CREDIT WERE NOT DUE AND ONLY TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED OR DONE.

YES SHE SAID IT AND WITH GOOD REASON. PEOPLE WHO HAVENT BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THINK EVERYTHING IS OK .....ITS NOT....AND HER FEELINGS WERE RIGHT ON .YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND HOMMER....BECAUSE YOU ARE PART OF THAT PROBLEM.

YOU SEE THERE IS NOTHING THAT A PERSON OF COLOR DOES THAT YOU RESPECT,BE IT ACHIEVEMENT OF ANY KIND,WHEN THAT HAPPENS TO YOU EVERY DAY IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER IT TAKES CHARACTER NOT TO REACT AND STRIKE OUT.YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOMMER YOU ARE DOING THE STRIKING,I SHOULD ONLY HOPE THAT SOMEDAY SOMEONE OR SOMETHING WILL SUBJUGATE YOU.

PROJECTION......YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND THE FIRST THING ABOUT IT......YOU THINK I SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT YOU ALLOW ME TO BE HERE........WRONG YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE WHITE AND CAN GET AWAY WITH YOUR GARBAGE.....LIKE RUSH.....SHE SPOKE THE TRUTH WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,A TRUTH MOST BLACKS IN THIS COUNTRY FEEL,AND THAT IS BASED ON OUR CONTRIBUTIONS, WHICH ARE LARGELY IGNORD AND DENEGRATED,SO HOMMER GO BACK ..........

TO YOUR WORLD AND BOW TO YOUR SAVIOR ......ELRUSHBO.

SUBJECT......syria has never been peacfull there defeats at the hands of the israelis has never set well especially the last one.There polotics has been in the toilet for years just a matter of time......if it were not for israel we probally should just walk away from the entire area and let them sort it out.Our hands are not clean here, we have backed some people for strategic reasons (oil) and it is comming home to haunt us.There cannot exist a situation were a minority rules the masses and rapes and blunders for the sake of money ,while the others work and cannot see the fruits of there labor.We are trying to make this about religion it is not.Religion is a way of solidefying your base to fight back.Since the beginning of time the churches have been the base for change.and yes that applies to US also.WE need to watch this carefully and not get sucked in with something we dont fully understand.

THE ONLY DOG HERE HOMMER IS YOU.....A FEMALE AT THAT

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 1:57 PM

No comparison? By saying that, you are comparing. Let's move on.

-- Posted by skeeter on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM

Keep our noses out of other peoples business? Should we have kept our noses out in WW11 against the Germans?

Where have you been Zook there's been an uprising in Syria going on for at least 3-4 days or longer.

Its now been reported that Gaddafi and his army are getting slammed

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/27/libyan...

Comparing Bush to Obama or Michelle to Barbara come on lets move on......There's no comparison !!

Oh and I still haven't heard of American troops on the ground over in Libya ?

Homer some one replied to your comment on another blog Did you read it??

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Mar 27, 2011, at 9:24 AM

I DO NOT DISAGREE .....WE SHOULD NOT BE THERE.WITH

THAT SAID I DIDNT FIND THE NO FLY OUT OF WACK AS PART OF OUR NATO COMMITMENTS.I WOULD THINK SOMEONE WAS CONSULTED.....MY GUESS WOULD BE THE VICE PRES,THE SPEAKER,AND THE NATIONAL INTELL COMMITTEE I AM SURE WE WILL FIND OUT THIS WEEK.

I SHOULD HOPE WE ARE ALSO DONE THIS WEEK.....BELIEVE ME YOU DONT WANT ME TO GO OFF ABOUT BEING USED ,AND BAD WARS,AND THANKLESS COUNTRY ETC VERY BAD SUBJECT FOR ME AND YOU KNOW IT......REASON I SAY WHAT I SAY IS TO MANY PEOPLE ARE TO QUITE......NO BOOTS BETTER STAY THAT WAY

SPEC OPS IS DIFFERENT......I KNOW SOME WONT BELIEVE IM SAYING THAT HOWEVER I AM A MILITARY PERSON AND I KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

I THINK EVERY PRESIDENT pushes the envelope that is how we got to were we are at.Think about that a hot minute (smile)so yes they make it up as they go along. RUNNING A NATION is like being in combat .think about it..........WHEN TO RUN AND WHEN TO GUN........2BD SPEC OPS........FT DEVINS......SGT 1STCL JOHNSON.....FUNNY I SHOULD THINK ABOUT HIM NOW HAVNT FOR YEARS

I TOLD YOU WHAT THAT SGT SAID......AND AS WE HAVE SAID THERE KIDS DONT SERVE......BRING BACK THE DRAFT.......AT LEAST THEN THERE IS A CHANCE THEY WILL SERVE....GOT TO LOOK SOMETHING UP ILL BE BACK

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 8:47 PM

YES MS M YOUR RIGHT ITS LIKE HE DOESNT EVEN SEE WHAT HE DOES.ONLY HE CAN ATTACK,AND YOU BETTER LIKE IT BECAUSE ........IM HOMMER...........SAY WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.AND SURE DOESNT LIKE BEING..........WRONG.............IN ANY WAY.................DEFENSE IS.........TELL ANOTHER ONE..................YOU ARE SO RIGHT HAVE A GREAT DAY

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 8:17 PM

hahahahaha you crack me up Homer !!!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 7:58 PM

LETS see couple of million and intell should know 25 are al queda.I wish we were that good if the leader hadnt admitted it we probally wouldnt know for months.

Race card I DONT THINK SO, I AM STATING A FACT.YOU HOMMER HAVE BEEN AS BIGOTED AND AS RACIST AS YOU COULD BE TO ANYTHING I HAVE SAID .SO HOMMER OWN UP TO YOUR SELF.THE NAME CALLING WENT A LONG WAY TO SET THE TONE. AND TO DEFEND RUSH and his bigotry says it all.

THAT PERSON ATTACKED THE FIRST LADY FRIDAY WITH SOME OF THE MOST DEGRADING OFF HANDED COMMENTS IV HEARD IN AWHILE,AND YOU PROBALLY THINK IT WAS OK.WHY??????????? AND YES HE IS A DRUG ADDICT 2007 IS NOT A LONG TIME IN THE LIFE OF A DRUG ADDICT.......YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE ME ASK ANOTHER PROFESSSIONAL......WHEN DID HE TAKE HIS LAST DRUG TEST?????????? WHY HAVNT YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION??????????? THE CHOICE OF DRUG DOES NOT CHANGE THE ADDICTION OR THE PROBLEM.SO YES LETS KICK HIM AROUND SOME SEEING HOW HE SEES FIT TO INSULT AND DEGRADE A WOMEN OR IS DEGRADING THE FIRST LADY OK TOO?????????????I HATE TO BRING HER IN BUT EVEN KIMS KNOWS HIS ANTICS.EAR IMPLANTS DONT MAKE HIM AND INVALID AND HE DOES KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING .IT'S ABOUT MONEY.

YOU HOMMER use certain words to certain people.The context of which you use them in tell the tale.You assume you are so superior to everyone else especially certain people that you can get away with it........WRONG.YOU JUST DID IT TO MISS M.YOU THINK THE ONLY THINGS IMPORTANT ARE THE THINGS YOU THINK ARE IMPORTANT......YOU NEED YOUR OWN WORLD.

WELL NOTHING HAS CHANGED .....SINGLE SOURCE,PRIORITYS,DISRESPECT,JUST TO NAME A FEW FUNNY HOW OTHERS CAN ARGUE WITHOUT BEING NASTY. WHEN YOU ONLY SEE OUT OF TINTED GLASSES ITS NO WONDER YOU HAVE TUNNEL VISION.

ZOOK YOUR explanation is real and i know that but dont you think we have better things to do?????????WHAT HAPPENED TO ONE VOICE IN THE TIME OF TRIAL???? My attention is not diverted.....and i am looking past the obvious both pro and con,I SEEK UNDERSTANDING.......I talke to people everyday all over this country.I am looking for consensus,these people are from all walks and persuations,rich poor,green to orange,right and left conservative to tea party and there is no consensuse,everyone has a piece of the puzzle but no total answer.so we keep searching.......see ya

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 6:48 PM

I can just imagine if Hillary was President,the discrimination and the name calling. All the boys having to take orders from a woman... lol ! Oh and they would say every time she made a decision she was having a blond moment. Ha Ha !

Zook I still haven't found American Troops on the ground.......???

Homer I wouldn't call Obama an Idiot, I don't think he copy's and pastes :)

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 3:36 PM

OH I FORGOT....... TO SAY THINGS LIKE AIRCRAFT SUPPORT IMPLIES PEOPLE FIXING PLANES ETC......WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT AIRMAN ASSIGNED TO SPECIAL FORCES WHO CALL IN THE STRIKES........ZOOK YOU KNOW BETTER THAT WAS A PLAY ON WORDS. I HEARD THE SAME REPORT.......I WISH ALL NEWS AGENCYS WOULD STOP DOING THAT.TAKE THE TIME TO REALLY READ THIS JUNK,THEY ALL WRITE TO SEIZE THE MOMENT,TRUTH BE DARNED.

YOU KNOW THE NEWS AGENCYS PLAYED A BIG PART IN GETTING US INTO IRAQ IF WE ARE NOT CAREFULL THEY WILL HAVE US DOING IT AGAIN.........the AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE BLINDED BY THE NEED FOR REVENGE....I dont see this as much different from kosavo or bosinia and i didnt like them either.........AND ZOOK I DIDNT ATTACK YOU IF I WERE I WOULD COME RIGHT AT YOU .YOU KNOW THAT.........I DONT CALL NAMES AND MAKE INSINUATIONS........GOTTA RUN ......LATTER

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 2:10 PM

Zook I have looked at fox news online and I am not seeing anything about us having troops on the ground in Libya. Help me out here and show me where your getting this......... If you seen it on the tv news, why aren't they talking about it more then a brief mention of it? If this is really true how come no one is talking about it except you? This would of been all over the internet and on tv don't ya think ?? In my eyes you made a BIG statement !! And I am not seeing that your correct on this one !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 1:48 PM

NEWS FLASH......THERE ARE APPROX 25 AL QUEDA ADMITTED INVOLVED IN THE LIBYIAN REVOLT......That is hardly a force and again intell bungled the deal...www.telegraph.co.uk.....everybody is up in arms i did not say he should get a free pass......so get off that.Ill say it again a different way.........PEOPLE ARE HOLDING HIM TO A HIGHER STANDARD........WHY??????........I SAY IT GOES TO ......to be the same as we have to be better than......been there live it every day. And i did not deflect to anyone i stated as fact. Hannity,Rush, I didnt mention BECK......have advocated some things they ought to suit up for.One for sure probally couldnt pass the drug test,so if you want to know about lala land you should ask him.

NEXT i havnt read it latley but something tells me we need to read the war powers act.and if we do have special forces there I HOPE THEY GET IT DONE.......TROOPES HAVE NOT BEEN COMMITED.......SO GET IT RIGHT......FIGHTING WITH AL QUEDA.......YOU WISH

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 1:41 PM

Zook I forgot to mention I have not seen anything in the news about us having troops on the ground over in Libya Is Fox the only one that reported this news??

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 11:01 AM

HOW ABOUT TELLING RUSH AND HANNITY TO GO GET ISSUED A UNIFORM. AND OR SEND THERE CHILDREN.

There was and e-7 on a documentary the other day that called what we have now as ECONOMIC CONSCRIPTION.....THAT IN OF ITSELF TELLS THE WHOLE STORY.........ONE SIDED REHTORIC THAT IS SEDITIOUS AT BEST IS NOT THE WAY TO GO......AND IS NOT IN OUR BEST INTREST........IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO DO WHAT YOUR DOING GO FOR IT.DO YOU THINK YOU COULD READ OR LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT DOESNT SUPPORT YOUR POSITION......I DEVOTE SOME TIME TO RUSH AND HANNITY.....AND I DISLIKE BOTH.ESPECIALLY RUSH........NEVER COULD UNDERSTAND HOW A DRUG ADDICT GOT TO BE THE PILLAR OF TRUTH.....THAT IS ONE FOR DISCUSSION.........

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 10:22 AM

LETS SEE intell bungled IRAC,AFGANASTAN,VENUZUELA AND WE EXPECT THAT THIS PRESIDENT ANYMORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT SHOULD GET IT PERFECT.How about lets get out of all of them,how about the fact that no matter what this PRESIDENT DOES RIGHT, IT WILL BE WRONG FOR SOME.If he had it so wrong based on what RUSH, AND Hannity have to say I AM SURE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.

There is no fairness in the criticism because they are BIASED. WHEN PEOPLE lie like NEWT with one intent there can be but one reason.FIRST HE STATES ....NO FLY ZONE...........THEN HE STATES THAT WAS A BAD MOVE .....WELL WHICH IS IT OR IS IT NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES WE WILL OPPOSE.......WHY cant some peopl just say that, we all know it........and ask this what GOOD IS THAT DOING OUR COUNTRY.........WE COULD BLINDLY FOLLOW ...BUSH.......and that was ok.......WHY ???????? look up grandfather on his mothers side.as was stated on this blog Bush used a UN RESOLUTION THAT WAS OK........IT GETS OLD

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 10:11 AM

25 Al Qaeda Fighters recruited to fight in Libya

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, at 9:57 AM

Hey Mike you and some others may want to take a look at this that I got in and e-mail, someplace you click bring up nothing but worthless sites but there is alot of info on it.

> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Thomas.Pils...

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 3:28 PM

Someone didn't get the message on security, they should have locked all the doors LOL

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/...

-- Posted by Eagle_eye on Fri, Mar 25, 2011, at 2:39 PM

NOT a problem all im saying is there are 2 sides to every story.I understand why the 2nd ammendment I CANT SAY THAT I AGREE WITH ITS LITERAL INTERPRETATION AS BEING VALID TODAY, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER ARGUMENT.I COULD ARGUE FOR OR AGAINST.I am more worried about being a slave to corporate america right now....it would seem that there are folks who would strip all rights of the common man in favor of making money,so privatize schools,prisons,bathrooms,courts,police,firfighters,the military and anything else that can bring in a dollar.........FROM WHO ????????? AMAZING AND PEOPLE DONT SEE WHATS HAPPENING.......and every polotician out there is GUILTY in one form or another.....so I have bigger things to confront I only hope I dont get SHOT while doing it. SO WHO DO I HIRE ?????????????

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 6:52 PM

Honestly servival of the fittest it is natures way. And we as America have to police everybody else, and can never focus on fixing ourselves. I mean lets help Japan, atleast.

-- Posted by shockwave on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 6:20 PM

jtrotter

your right it doesn't matter which party ......... RATS will be RATS and we can always look forward to more RATS as they multiply

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 11:04 AM

MsMarylin,

Rats don't have party affiliations. They are just rats and they all need to go.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 10:58 AM

The Libyan's against Qaddafi are ill-equipped because the government will not allow them to arm themselves. There are many in the US that would do the same thing to the American citizens who can otherwise legally obtain arms. That could put honest citizens in the same situation the Libyan "rebels" are faced with today. In regards to concealed carry, any place that does not allow a citizen to legally carry a weapon has to be able to regulate that restriction at the point of entry -- like the courthouse. If not you can easily end up with a Virginia Tech-type incident. I'm not forcing my opinion down anyone's throat, just stating it.

-- Posted by VicVega on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM

After they clean out the RATS we could possibly get some Republican RATS lol !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 9:50 AM

OK enough i am a democrate and i get real tired of being called names....the founding fathers were in a different time under different cercumstances.With that being said I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR GUNS,BUT TO BE DENIGRATED BECAUSE I DONT AGREE WITH YOU MAKES NO SENSE.

WHAT REVOLUTION ARE YOU PLANNINg??????And who will feel the brunt of it?? DO WE NEED AND ARMED TO THE TEETH NATION TO BE A NATION????? Your need for a weapon is not mine, quite trying to shove it down my throat.college campus, why not kindergaten.Should i have to feel intimadated because of your weapon. i think not.There are people out there who will use those same weapons to attack things they dont like to include people, after its over we say sorry,that doesnt bring them back.I dont consider everyone who wants a weapon a nut case and i resent the fact that if i say I DONT AGREE THE NAMES START.....ENOUGH.....and libya has nothing to do with here.....

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Mar 24, 2011, at 9:45 AM

America should never have got involved in this civil war. Just like our civil war, someone wins and someone loses with no outside international involvement. It is not up to America to decide how Libya's war should be fought. If the Libiyan rebels don't have the weapons or organization to win this fight, they shouldn't have started it until they were better prepared. We (America)are just adding to the list of reasons Arab Nations dislike us.

-- Posted by signalman on Wed, Mar 23, 2011, at 6:45 PM

to bad libia has oil or the U.S. would not be bombing them... haven't seen piles of murdered civilians stacked up around the cities. sure glad obama is a peaceful person

-- Posted by goodllama2 on Wed, Mar 23, 2011, at 2:05 PM


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