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Don't overreact to tragedy

Posted Wednesday, January 12, 2011, at 8:51 AM

We've often railed against the politics of hate, which has seemingly become pervasive.

Logical discourse and reasonable debate have given way to demonizing opponents. In part, that may be because, lacking logic and reason to support their position, it's the only tool left to some politicians and pundits.

The shootings in Arizona have launched a national call to tone down that rhetoric. If that actually happens, it will be a good thing. But it's likely to disappear with the next big story to fix the attention of the public. Too many politicians and pundits make their careers and livelihood on venom, so the only thing that will really stop it is to reject them at the polls and quit listening to the radio and TV talk-show hosts that advocate that poor excuse for dialogue. It's up to us, as individuals, to bring about that change.

Some people will take this as an excuse to rail against gun control. But we find it interesting that one of the heroes of this massacre, a man who rushed into the shooting scene and helped subdue the gunman, was himself armed with a concealed handgun (and held the proper permit to do so). He said he didn't pull his gun because he didn't want to add to the chaos and terror of the moment. Which shows that it is possible to be a gun lover and still be smart. He didn't use the weapon he obviously carries for self protection in the midst of an incident when others might have considered self protection paramount. Not all gun lovers want to use their weapons at the first chance. Some actually think first.

Others believe our elected officials should now get special police protection. No, they shouldn't. While not unknown, this was a rare incident. Elected officials need to be able to walk among the people they represent without armed barriers between them and the people. Even most presidents, where the danger is highest and unfortunately real, often express the wish that they had less protection, not more.

When you live in a democracy, you have to accept some of the risks that come with the freedoms we enjoy.

Let us not get too carried away with the "message" from the Arizona shootings.

The cold, blunt reality is they were carried out by a nut with a gun. Nothing more and nothing less. Crazy people are going to do crazy things and there is very little anyone can do to prevent it.

It was a terrible tragedy and our hearts go out to all of the victims and their families.

But let's not overreact.


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Ronald Reagan once said: "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." This tragedy began and ended with that psychopath, nobody else. Not the state, not with the citizens of that state, not even with his PARENTS!!!! This was the lone act of a deeply mentally disturbed INDIVIDUAL. Leave it to the left leaning media and liberals to try to politicize this tragedy. Very disgusting! Is there nothing safe from political manipulation anymore?

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 9:43 AM

So because it was a mentally unstable person that did the shooting we should continue all the Hot and Negative Political Rhetoric?

Disgusting Homer what was Disgusting is the fact innocent people were killed.

You can disagree with me all you want, I think the Politician's need to tone it down.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 10:24 AM

Politicians? MsMarylin, you liberals are the group that is trying to tie Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and the Tea Party into this. You are disgusting for doing so. I know you're old, but dang, try to keep up with what's going on before you wade in like a rhinoceros in heat.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 11:12 AM

Homer boy sorry to tell you but your misinformed once again. Now you have me in a Group ! lol !

I was not talking about the TV shows or the Tea Party I was talking about the Politicians..... Silly boy ! I don't even listen to Rush or Beck or any of those type shows, including Olbermann or Maddow

Put your big boy pants on and go to school

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 11:22 AM

HOMER both sides are guilty of political manipulation...........neither side is any worst than the other,,,,,,,,,so get off the liberals thing it just happens to be there turn.....you had it right in the first part of your statment.

ALL politcians should take a look at what they do and say on OUR DIME........WE should be FIRST not them and there AMBITIONS

-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 3:04 PM

MsMarylin,

Apparently senility has set in. The politicians aren't running with the rhetoric, Ms. The liberals are. And lamont, when it comes to emotional rants, untruths, and outright lies, it seems to me that the liberals ALWAYS are at turn for this. Stop trying to pass this off as a "normal" occurrence. It's shameful what these left wingers are doing, and I guarantee you, the MAJORITY of Americans will NOT forget this travesty. You aren't fooling anyone, neither of you.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 4:22 PM

bazookaman,

I very much appreciate your thoughts on Ronald Reagan. He, too, came into the presidency at a time when our country was fraught with challenges. The best thing he did was to act in America's BEST INTERESTS! Not what's best for Europe, for the Middle East, etc., but what was in the best interest for America.

And the best thing I loved about him, you NEVER had to second guess that THIS man was a TRUE LEADER!!!! Wish we had a man like him in office today.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 5:25 PM

One party wants to throw us off the cliff while the other party wants to roll us down the hill. We get to the bottom, one way or another. It's time we get a REAL leader or America is doomed.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 6:05 PM

It had been said when Reagan was in office, Nancy was taking care of business because of his Alzheimer's. What a great lady she is ! :)

Homer have you not been watching the news or am I the only one that thinks Politicians need to tone it down?

Am I remembering correctly but when JFK was in the White House and we had the Cuban Missle crisis weren't we letting Cubans come into the US? Maybe we should of been guarding our borders back then !!

I just love debating with the boys !

Gosh this old brain is getting foggy it was such a long time ago and I ain't as young as Homer Boy

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM

Bay of Pigs.......... JFK was suppose to make bombing raids but he didn't and people got killed and wasn't he a womanizer too.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 6:15 PM

Yawn, MsMarylin. You've become rather tedious yet again. You are typical in your liberal meanderings.....you comment here, throw that out there, waltz over here, throw a tidbit there, without ever REALLY sticking to topic. MsMarylin, once again, I am submitting that the hateful rhetoric is NOT coming from our politicians so much as it is coming from people like YOU! The "common folk liberals" of this country. Look at your posts...every one of them you're bashing this or knocking that. I guess what I'd really like you to know is that you and your ilk aren't fooling anyone, so please stop trying. It's as plain as that fake grin on your face.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 7:54 PM

People like me and who are people like me? Where am I getting off topic Homer? Bashing and Knocking........ your mistaking for correcting your errors. You got it so wrong you are going to get an F on that paper.

You know I think we have met before and I want you to know your job is as important as any other job :)

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 8:03 PM

Nancy did a Great Job considering where are Country was at that time.

It changed when Clinton took over and then it became a downward spiral there for awhile. I'm not ready to give up on Obama yet no matter what the people in this Republican state blog about.

I think he has been under considerable pressure to be the first Black President just like JFk was the first Catholic President...

Seems when they are NO longer in office they turn out to be a great president. What happens to peoples minds. Do they only remember good things and not the bad things. I am sure that is it......... as who wants to remember bad times

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 8:14 PM

IF you heard what the president said tonight he put everyone in the barrel,GREAT.IF YOU HEARD MRS PALIN TODAY.....SHE BLAMED THE VICTIMS......TELL ME HOW THAT WORKS???????

I THINK you cant discuss the issues when your screaming at each other......it is easy to point fingers and make comparisons,all thats based on perception, people didnt like IKE but from a right and wrong side he set the tone for civil rights,but nobody ever mentions his presideny.

I didnt like REAGAN he made some statments that angered me,,,,,with that said he was still my president.HOMER if you have a question of me ask it,DONT TRY TO PUT ME IN A BOX.

Again both sides have said and done some pretty distastfull things neither side has a monoply on civility.THE FACT THAT ONE JUMPS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER AT A GIVEN TIME MEANS NOTHING.So its whos out the gate first with what.

THAT IS NOT HARD TO SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.

MS M the pressure is probally like being in constant combat 24/7 he is alredy getting GREY.

When he is viewed as president first we might get to really see what he can do....... im getting the feeling that all thats cared about is how much money is being made or spent.Thats cool maybe we ought to consider at who's exspense.NOW that it's at everyone espense we have a problem.......intresting kinda how we got a drug problem......as long as poor folks were doing it.it was OK .the moment the MIDDLE CLASS DID it we had a problem .SO WHO IS IN THE BARREL NOW???

SEE YA...........FOOD FOR THOUGHT.........

-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Jan 12, 2011, at 9:57 PM

lamont:

Palin absolutely did NOT blame the VICTIMS, as you so stated. Palin blamed EXACTLY who was responsible for this debacle. The lame stream media and their left wing bias. This was all very clearly and unquestionably laid out in her response to the onslaught and attack of her by the hateful left wing. Don't want to believe me? Read it for yourself HERE: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id...

So I have no idea where you get off trying to propagate yet more hatred and lies on Sarah Palin. And yes, you're doing JUST THAT when you say she "blamed the victims".....because she never once did. I honestly think a lot of you propagate hatred and are so desensitized in doing it, you don't even know WHEN you are doing it anymore. It's become a knee jerk reaction with you.

And I'm with bazookaman on this...I don't see Obama as our first BLACK president, I couldn't care less about his color. His color has NOTHING to do with how he's conducting presidential matters and everything to do with how very inept he is.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 1:45 AM

And remember Palin never has any heated rhetoric to spew. And you never noticed that Obama is Black HA Ha Who are you trying to fool Little Homer

btw I forgot to ask you when we met is your last name Simpson?

One thing about it he gave a heck of a speech last night in Tucson. Obama 2012

Palin Out she keeps shooting herself in the foot. She needs to stay in her igloo

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM

MsMarylin,

I am thoroughly convinced now that you are not operating with a full deck. We have never met, and my name is NOT Simpson....now or ever. I'm a MALE so my name hasn't changed since I came into this world. So much for your "hunches". But you are disturbing, MsMarylin. That you could cheer Obama for taking the somber decorum of a memorial and turn it into a pep rally shows just how far the left have sunk. Isn't there supposed to be some decorum at a memorial service? This isn't a concert or a sporting event. Obama's words are too late. The damage has been done. Why could he not say this shouldn't be "one more occasion to turn on one another," and to "do so with a good dose of humility" on Saturday. "They bring a knife, we bring a gun," "get in your neighbors faces"....words uttered by Obama in the past. It seems another in a long line of liberal lectures in civility from those (like Obama) who have been less than civil. And now we will be beaten up on tomorrow, for daring to question the "integrity" of the event. Excuse me! This was supposed to be about the victims, not about a political resurrection of the Chicago Jesus to the cheers and swoops of his adoring masses. I have a bad feeling, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 9:20 AM

Oh Homer I am sorry if I disturb you. Gosh lighten up you seem to get upset so easily. Chill !

How do you know we never met?

So your not Homer Simpson my mistake sorry!

I Loved Obama's speech last night

I'm sure You didn't like it because he got standing Ovation's in a Republican State.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 9:53 AM

Not one more response will you get from me, MsMarylin. You're not well, obviously.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:02 AM

HOMER I DID NOT BRING IN HIS COLOUR YOU DID SO YOU SAY 'HIS COLOUR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW HE CONDUCTING PRESIDENTIAL MATTERS AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOW VERY INEPT HE IS' talk about double talk.....THATS PRETTY GOOD.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A (blood libel) IS?????????????

CK OUT YOUR BIBLE AND GET BACK TO US...............for the rest of the world he cant control the mood of the crowd, they were in a rally mood before it started and i think he toned it down and placed the emphasis were it should have been the people.....even the right said he was excellent CHARLES KRAUGHTHAMMER is not and OBAMA FAN........BUT FOR SOME lt would make no difference what he said or how, it would be wrong after all. WE all know if your black YOUR INEPT.............WHAT A JOKE............... AND I WATCHED THE PALIN RESPONSE.YOU HEARD A DENIAL YES AND PLACE THE BLAME......THE CODED PART OF THE MESSAGE WAS NOT MISSED....BY ANYONE EVEN THE RIGHT.....LIKE I SAID EVERYONE HAS GOT A HAND IN THIS RIGHT AND LEFT

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:17 AM

Yeaaaaa 3 cheers Homer isn't going to respond to me any more.

It wasn't Obama that turned it into a Pep Rally !

Nice try there Homer trying to stick Obama with something else he didn't cause

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/13/opinio...

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:31 AM

lamont, coded messages now? Dang! How did you get the secret decoder ring? What a moonbat!

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:33 AM

And for the record lamont, it was NOT intended by me to say that Obama is inept because he is black. Obama is inept because he is inexperienced. Now, stop playing the race card, that poor thing's tattered, worn, and barely legible anymore.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:36 AM

Regarding Obama's manipulation of the memorial service: "Never before in the annals of national moments of mourning have the words spoken been so wildly mismatched by the spirit in which they were received," writes John Podhoretz. "There was something about the choice of place, a college arena with the appropriate name of the McKale Memorial Center, that made the event turn literally sophomoric."

The Washington Post said it is not "offering a judgment on whether or not it was an appropriate tone for a memorial service, but rather that it made for at-times incongruous sounds and images on television."

"This was more like an Arsenio Hall show than a memorial service," Doug Lucas, writing for American Thinker, complains today. "Catcalls, standing ovations, whistling and the whoop, whoop, whoop of the crowd dominated the night.

Like I said before, you liberals aren't fooling anyone, so rock on with your bad selves.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:42 AM

Homer If you think your fooling the majority of the people who enjoyed his speech last night your only fooling yourself.

Get over it ! So you don't like Obama Move on go to school or work, what ever it is that you do.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 10:48 AM

Bazook If I got it right I think the case is going to get moved to California.

Yeah every time a new president comes into office we get to watch his hair turn grey.

If it was a female President we wouldn't see that happen she would color her hair lol !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 11:35 AM

HOMER I DID NOT PLAY ANY RACE CARD.YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID.......GO BACK AND READ IT AND TELL ME HOW YOU COULD INTERPRET IT ANY OTHER WAY???????

I ANY EVENT the crowd was the crowd .mabe if it was held somwhere else the Crowd would have done something else........he said what needed to be said.........even HANNITY AGREES AND HE HATES THE PRESIDENT AND DONT GET ME WRONG SEAN HAD HIS CRITICISM WOULDNT BE HIM WITHOUT................

WE cant TALK when it starts off YOU LIBERALS..

ANY HOW zook stay out of the boonies.....someone might think your a deer ( LAUGH) i could see that now......man i shot at a deer and it shot back..............that thought is to much got to go...............hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 5:02 PM

If you live long enough, you'll attend a memorial service for a dearly departed soul.

Unless you're showing up to celebrate the defeat of an enemy, the proprieties of the memorial point to solemn behavior...respect for the dead by honoring their life. Etiquette anticipates empathy and respect for the grief suffered by the surviving friends and family. Memorials serve to strengthen those who are left behind to endure the challenges of mortality. Eulogies are typically delivered by people who knew and loved the deceased.

What I saw the other night was an abomination...a so-called eulogy interrupted at least 50 times by the applause of an audience, (not a collection of friends and family); a political demonstration as heartless as that conducted by those wackos who protest the funerals of fallen servicemen. The message mattered more than the purpose of the event. The applause was for the speaker, not the eulogy.

It's been said, "Either you have class, or you ain't got none."

By his actions, the President of the United States brought discredit upon himself by centering the focus of the event upon his presentation, rather than on the memorial.

Politicians, like diapers, need to be changed. Likely, for the same reason.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 5:54 PM

I COULD AGREE EXCEPT....HE FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE,THE EVENT AND THE TRADGEDY,,,,,,,I WONT COMPARE OTHER EVENTS OF THE SAME MAGNITUDE.....PERSONALLY I DONT THINK TEARS ARE ALWAYS NEEDED ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PLENTY.......I THINK IF YOU LOOKED AT HIM THE PRESENTATION AND THE SETTING THE THINGS YOU DESCRIBED WERE ADDRESSED.HE DID NOT PICK THE VENUE OR THE CROWD HE DEALT WITH THE HAND DEALT,,,,,,,,,WAS IT PERFECT NO,DID IT COVER THE SPECTRUM AS NEEDED I THINK SO..........AND SO DOES majority of the right...............enough said...................

TO COMPARE TO FUNERAL PROTESTERS TO ME IS WAY OUT OF LINE......BUT THATS JUST ME.............AND IV BURIED A LOT OF BROTHER VETS

MATTER OF FACT PLAYED JAZZ AT ONE GUYS FUNERAL FOR OVER AND HOUR.....THERE WERE JOKES AND TEARS......FUNERALS ARE REALLY CELEBRATIONS OF LIFES,LIVED.........GOD BLESS US ALL

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Jan 13, 2011, at 6:20 PM

bazookaman, they werent playing jazz and this wasn't New Orleans. Absolutely amazing to me that anyone could even think this was reasonable behavior given the somber decorum. It wasn't.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 6:19 AM

It's funny, I've just read over all the comments from this article. Do any of you even REMEMBER what the article was about? It was about NOT OVERREACTING to a horrible tragedy. I put up the first comment, it was a quote from Ronald Reagan, one of the greatest presidents this country ever had, and do you know what followed? Rants against him, rants against Sarah Palin, a complete aside on JFK, the race card being pulled, more bashes on Palin. All these comments don't even speak to what the original article's message was. See what I mean by saying liberals respond in knee jerk bashing fashion to everything that they don't like. Truly a sad statement on where our country is going.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 6:49 AM

bazooka,

I think Sarah Palin would make a fantastic president. She's experienced, evidenced by the fact that she took the state of Alaska from the red to the black while she was governor. She may not be THE MOST eloquent speaker ever, but I know that what she says comes from her heart. I hope the republicans DO realize what's going on. I hope they DO understand that if they put up a moderate RINO like McCain, that the majority of Americans will NOT vote for him. We don't need a moderate, this country's slipped far too left. We need a TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 8:58 AM

Homer you were the first one to bring Palin and Limbaugh and the Tea Party into this conversation and now your saying we didn't stay on topic of what the story was about. HA!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 8:58 AM

"The cold, blunt reality is they were carried out by a nut with a gun. Nothing more and nothing less. Crazy people are going to do crazy things and there is very little anyone can do to prevent it."

It might have been prevented if his parents would of paid attention to him and seen the signs that he wasn't stable. He lived at home with them.

Schizophrenia onset is typically between the ages of 15 and 25 although it can affect children younger than fourteen

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 10:17 AM

I KNOW THAT BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN LESS THAN OBJECTIVE WITH THIS TRADGEDY......HOWEVER BOTH SIDES ARE FINALLY TALKING ABOUT A SOCIAL ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN WITH US FOR DECADES.....MENTAL HEALTH.........I COULD STATE WERE I PERCIEVE THE RIGHT AND LEFT STANDS BUT IM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT HERE.I want them to look at it for real and not lip service.

last but not leastTHE PRESIDENT

1- DIDNT PICK THE VENUE

2- DIDNT PICK THE SPEAKERS

3- DIDNT PICK THE CROWD

4- DID ADDRESS CONCERNS

5- DID EULOGIZE

6- DID CONSOLE

7- DID CHASTISE

DID I MISS SOMETHING ????????????????????

A PRIEST ONCE TOLD ME TEARS AT FUNERALS ARE FOR THE LIVING THIS WASNT A FUNERAL IT WAS A MEMORIAL SERVICE.....THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED........THE CRITIC OF THIS MAN IS OFF THE CHARTS,LAST NITE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE HATE EACH OTHER PHILOSOPHY OF THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT

IT gets nothing done because no one hears the other.......you didnt hear a word i said HOMER and thats OK.........FOR YOU........I HEAR YOU HOMER TO BAD YOU DONT HEAR YOURSELF.....

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM

lamont, with all due respect, you'll never hear anyone but yourself. Very evident. Like I said, rock on with your bad selves. See where it gets you. Obama's antics have already cost him the House.....

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 4:59 PM

It's not Hate, Lamont. It's disappointment.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM

TRUE CONSERVATIVE..........NOT SOMETHING MOST MINORITYS OR WOMAN WOULD LOOK FORWARD TOO.I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE BOTH EXTREMES HAVE TAKEN US.......IF RAND PAUL IS A POSTER BOY FOR TRUE CONSERVATIVE ,,,,,THERE IS A PROBLEM......IF NANCY PELOSI IS A POSTER GIRL FOR LIBERALS WE HAVE A PROBLEM..........WHAT YOU THINK HOMER COUNTS WHEN YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES..........ZOOK hears, you dont........extremes are how you get stuck......i dont preconcieve what you tell me, what i comment on you tell me.......you may not have meant to say what you said before. but you said it. and funny I got the impression that you thouht it was OK and that I should UNDERSTAND.......NOPE I DONT when i try to tell you what happens daily to me you turn a deaf ear.You dont ask why I FEEL THAT WAY. YOU DISMISS IT....AND I CONTINUE TO TELL YOU ITS NOT HAPPENING TO YOU, BUT YOU DONT HEAR THAT.......ZOOK ASKED QUESTIONS TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING....YOU DONT....WHY ????......... ARE YOU A TRUE CONSERVATIVE???????????

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Jan 14, 2011, at 6:32 PM

lamont, I absolutely AM a true conservative. I believe in making the federal govt. adhere to what their sole purpose was for as prescribed in our constitution. I believe the federal govt. should keep us safe and secure while WE pursue our OWN happiness, NOT to allow the federal govt. to tell us what that happiness is. I believe in free enterprise and free market. I don't believe any company or corporation is "too big to fail". If you fail, in this beautiful system of ours, another will be in the wings ready to pick up the slack and smarter for having seen where others have made mistakes. I don't believe in bailouts. I don't hate the rich and I don't pity the poor. I don't believe the federal govt. should start putting it's fingers in the private sector. I don't believe we need all these social programs that don't help someone seek work, only make them subservient to the govt. I honestly couldn't give a rip what "minorities" want. The very definition of a "minority" means "A group or party having fewer than a controlling number of votes". I don't believe in being ruled by ANY minority. I believe in MAJORITY RULES. This is a federal republic and majority rules. If you don't like that concept, I believe you are free to leave. I also don't believe in blindly defending someone based on the melanin content in their skin. Obama's making horrible moves that culminate in one of two possibilities: either he's in over his head and lacks the insight capable of being a leader for ALL Americans, or, he truly IS a marxist paving the path to bring America to the gates of socialism. I happen to believe it's the latter, but either way, it doesn't spell success for my country. I don't belong to the democrat party, nor do I belong to the republican party. I demand personal accountability in myself and others. So yes, lamont, I AM A TRUE CONSERVATIVE! Based on the latest Gallup poll, we outnumber you 2 to 1 in this country: http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-C... Deal with it, or don't. So in closing, lamont, it's NOT that I don't hear you, your side is the squeaky wheel that needs more grease. We all HEAR you. The reality is liberalism is NOT the MAJORITY here and for America's sake, I hope it never will be. You listening now?

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 7:18 AM

bazookaman,

Nice, well thought out post. However, Barack Obama is part and parcel of that congress before last November. They rubber stamped his every wish. So while I DO hold congress accountable, I also hold this president accountable, too. It is primarily because of obama, we ended up with a healthcare bill so monstrous, so deceptive, so costly, that none of us can even begin to fathom what it's truly going to mean for America in the long run. And I have no doubt that THIS congress will vote to repeal, just like I have no doubt this president will VETO that attempt without a second thought. This is why he's not exactly clean in this mess.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 9:07 AM

CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG......A TRUE CONSERVATIVE WOULD NOT ALLOW DISRCIMNATION TO EXIST

1-IN EDUCATION .....HOUSING

2- IN BUSINESS .....LENDING

3-IN GOVERNMENT ..... THE MILITARY

4- IN JOBS .........WAGES

THAT IS JUST 4 BUT BY YOUR OWN STATMENT HOMER YOU DONT GIVE A RIP....2-1 PEOPLE INDENTFY TO SOME GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE AS CONSERVATIVE .....YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT IS ON SOME ISSUE NOT STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD I READ THE POLL TOO.

ILL SAY IT AGAIN WE HAVE DIMINISHED our industrial base so bad that to let specifically GM FAIL AFFECTS OUR war making capacity, ITS CALLED national security as a conservative I WOULD THINK war making is a priority for you.i DONT DEFEND BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OF HIS SKIN. I HAVE NEVER SAID WHAT HE DOES IS OK BECAUSE OF IT.........BUT I DO HEAR CRITICISM BECAUSE OF IT........SO HOW ABOUT BEING CRITICAL WITHOUT BEING COLOUR CENTRIC......ZOOK DESCRIBED HOW POLETICS WORKS .GREAT.I THINK YOU DONT LIKE ANY ONE WHO DOESNT THINK YOUR WAY......you attacked ZOOK

IS THAT CONSERVATIVE TOO?????.....................

JUNKYARD.....i agree i have not been happy believe me........we shall see if he changes his adviser...........................................

thankyou ZOOK...........and for some the senate was not fillibuster proff so total control was not there.......how ever stopping the business of government was not the answer either......the hundreds a bills that didnt get done will catch up to us.........................

last but not least. the seek work comment

PEOPLE ARE SEEKING WORK HOW ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVE WORKING TO BRING BACK OUR INDUSTRIAL BASE AND BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAGES PAID SO PEOPLE CAN EAT THAN THEM MAKING SO MUCH MONEY THEY CANT KEEP TRACK OF IT.....THATS CALLED NATIONAL ALLEGIANCE......THATS SOPPOSED TO BE A CONSERVATIVE IDEAL.........ISNT IT???????????

OUR COUNTRY IS A NATION STATE NOT A BUSINESS

SOME NEED TO REMEBER THAT.........OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE....... ALL THE PEOPLE

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 10:27 AM

LMAO! This is what I mean about you liberals being so far out of reality that even having a dialogue is right near impossible to do. First of all, lamont, in no way, shape, or form did I attack bazookaman at all. It was a respectful reply to what he wrote. My words speak for themselves and I would ask anyone other than you, lamont, to tell me that my response to bazookaman was an "attack". Only someone clearly out of touch with reality could even possibly construe it to be an attack. Isn't if funny that liberals even want to scream bloody murder even when they aren't being addressed. They want to tell other people they're "victims", too.

The rest of your diatribe is just muddled ignorance, lamont. Yes, I SAID IGNORANCE! Had we let GM fail, somehow that would make us less able to secure our nation? RIDICULOUS, EMOTIONAL DRIVEL! Not even going to comment on the part where you once again have to whip out the race card. It has NOTHING to do with the fact Obama is inept. And lastly, apparently you don't quite understand what our constitution says about discrimination, lamont. Our constitution says ALL MEN ARE FREE! Pity that some would sooner wallow in a victim mentality than be so, but, hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 12:20 PM

Here's a little read about the GM Bailout

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/11/gm-...

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 12:34 PM

GOOD READ MS M.........MADE MY POINT......THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL AT LENGHT ARTICLES WRITTEN ON THE SUBJECT.......CONSENSUS RIGHT AND LEFT IT WAS A GOOD THING.......AND NEEDED......BUT IM EMOTIONAL AND IGNORANT WHAT DO I KNOW?????????DISMISSED OUT OF HAND........so even if something i offered was worth something it wouldnt get there,probally same for you after all we have been labeled LIBERAL.........I GUESS THAT MEANS WE CANT THINK............LOVE YA

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 2:58 PM

funny how name calling becomes the backdrop for defense when you get hung up....I would put my education ,and life expericences up against anyones,,,,,,,,,what i saw written i guess wasnt written????????ill get my glasses cked.

me im free however the impedaments to my advancement... Some of them are still in place i PERSONALLY get what i want,hard work,education........but why should i still have to conquer hurdles that have nothing to do with my abilities,especially when they are preconcieved................when does that stop??

HOMER ......YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND........ITS NOT HAPPENING TO YOU......THAT IS ENOUGH SAID FOR ME..........READ THE ARTICLE

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 4:09 PM

By the way, that "article" posted speaks to NOTHING you said, lamont, and doesn't support your claim in the slightest. What you were reading was someone's OPINION when you got to the U.S. being better able to produce military goods if GM is around. Nice try, but a swing and a big miss. Shocker!

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 6:34 PM

I DONT TYPE. NOT A FORTE OF MINE YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY ITS SPELLED OR OTHERWISE TOUGH. YOU PROBALLY ARE MORE INTRESTED IN FORM THAN CONTENT SO WHO CARES,AND I DONT PASS MYSELF OFF AS INTELLIGENT I AM .thats the problem you dont like that.......WHINING.......I GUESS YOU WOULD PREFER THAT I ACCEPT 2ND CLASS CITEZENSHIP THEN EVERYTHING WOULD BE OK not on your LIFE......... i love MY COUNTRY AND I CAN COMPLAIN ALL I WANT TILL IT GETS IT RIGHT........I PAYED DEARLY FOR THAT RIGHT AND OTHERS IN MY FAMILY PAYED DEARLY FOR YEARS.........AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF POOR PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY,DOCTORS ,TEACHERS,LAWYERS,BANKERS.PRODUCER/SONGWRITTER.ALL HARD WORK WERE EVER WE LIVE AT......AND WE DISMISS NO ONE OUT OF HAND,YOU OUGHT TO TRY IT...........

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 7:06 PM

OH by the way..i didnt miss,,, there is no imperical data that says we could replace GM OR CHRYSLER WAR MAKING capacity......and you didnt take a swing at the job lose so go for it......people dont count only the dollar does..............righT/???????????????? SOUP LINES GALOUR..........AS LONG AS IM NOT STANDING IN IT..........BESIDES THEY DESERVE IT.........7.50 AND HOUR IS A GREAT WAGE....... AS LONG AS IM NOT WORKING FOR IT...........THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH..........FOR WHAT?????????????

HEALTH CARE..........DROP DEAD QUICKLY.........SAVINGS ????? DONT EAT.....VICIOUS CIRCLE.......NATIONAL ALLEGIANCE STOP OUTSOURCING ON MY DIME(TAX INCENTIVES) you want tax incentives you build and employ here when your addressing those issues TALK TO ME

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 7:24 PM

i have owned and operated several busineese and i am not refering to the educated.I can assure YOU that the cost of goods right now is inflated and if you run a bissness you know it.7.50 is for un skilled labor ,primarily fast food services that is not what i am talking about.....the point is fair prices are gettibg to be a thing of the past we are now dealing with what the market will bear.IT IS DRIVING INFLATION FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS,YOU AND ME.......WAGES ARE FLAT OR DECLINING BUT THE COST OF GOODS IS RISING..THAT MEANS WE ARE PEDDLING BACKWARDS.....HOW DO YOU GET SOCIALISM OUT OF MY DISCOURSE??????????I HAVE NEVER ADVOCATED THAT POSITION.....SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW THAT HAS GOT TO STOP OR SLOW DOWN..........I WATCHED SHEETROCK GO FROM 3,25 TO 5.50 IN LESS THAN A YEAR.PUSHED THE PRICE OF A HOUSE UP 10 THOUSAND AND PUT SMALL REPAIR GUYS OUT OF WORK,THAT KINDA THING WILL NOT GROW THE ECONOMY..........bands are not making anymore than we were in 1972 because cost of goods has placed live entertainment on the brink.and the choices forced on the owners creates a toxic bisnese climate.MY little dream world?????????DO YOU THINK YOUR TALKING TO A CHILD????????????or are you just rude on purpose?????????????? THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES ARE RELATIVE i dont care what bisnesse your in.the cost of a remodel to me the contractor jumped 42% IN 18 MONTHS THAT IS CRAZY........RESULT LESS PEOPLE IN BISNESSE LESS JOBS.AND THE CIRCLE STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN.........AND THE SHEETROCK WAS COMING FROM CHINA........WHICH BY THE WAY SOME GUYS HAD TO TEAR BACK OUT AT THERE EXPENSE........YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT WHEN COLLEGE GRADS ARE WORKING MAC DONALDS SOMETHING IS WRONG.........THATS THE POINT. point 10 apps for every job........something is wrong in THIS COUNTRY......AND IF YOU THINK WE ALL ARE GIVEN OPPERTUNITYS YOU ARE THE ONE IN DREAM WORLD.YOU CAN WORK HARD AND DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND GET NOWHERE.HAPPENS EVERY DAY LOOK AROUND.......

my band is a bisnesse not a game.the investment is huge.education,equipment,maintenance,continuing education,travel,taxes paperwor same as any other bisnesse......and the compensation......questionable...already told you why....

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Jan 15, 2011, at 11:54 PM

lamont, I honestly don't care what YOU make, your family makes, how many businesses you've had, etc, etc. In fact, all the successes you point to actually work against the victim mentality you've tried so hard to establish here. Someone should have told you long ago that life aint fair.......but, life tends to be much better for THOSE THAT HELP THEMSELVES. Liberals always seem to be striving for that perfect utopia that doesnt exist now, or ever. And here's another thought for you, lamont. One man's utopia is another man's hell. When will you realize that?

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 6:29 AM

By the way, lamont, its NOT the fact that you cannot TYPE! It's the fact you cannot SPELL that sends a message about your intellectual capability.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 7:50 AM

Homer Boy why don' you get off your High Horse and let Lamont Own his own ideas, opinions and feelings. If he has felt like he was discriminated against in his 60 some years living on earth, so be it. It's his life you don't really know how it felt since you have never walked in his shoes

All you do is come on here criticizing everyone that doesn't think the same way you do.

You have even called it to our attention that we were getting off topic, you did that a couple times but yet you continue to talk about everything but what the story was about.

CJW I must tell you there are many people who have lost good paying jobs that are now working Minimum wage jobs. There are people that finished college only can't find a good paying job to work in the field they went to college for.

I have recently heard from a reliable source that Paul's is cutting back on every ones hours and Les schwab is laying off.

Homer You can't come up with anymore answers to lamonts post so you have to stoop low and call out his errors in spelling.

Oh yes and because I don't agree with you you say I am Disturbed HA ! Well little boy your the one that is the most disturb on here, we have got you upset !!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM

MsMarylin, this is the LAST post I will ever direct in your direction. I know you're bored. I know you don't have a whole lot else to do except sit on this blog and attack others. That's why I'm giving you a hall pass. Knock yourself out, sweetheart! Call me "little boy", call me anything you want. Just realize that you're proving my point about liberals and their name calling every time you do. And as far as typing and spelling, proper usage and sentence structure goes a long way in convincing someone you actually have more than just a modicum of intelligence. Let me guess, if you had YOUR WAY, spelling wouldnt be focused on in school right? Readin', Ritin', and Rithmetic aren't as important as the student's FEELINGS, right? Now, continue to attack me all you want. I will not give you the satisfaction of a single reply ever again.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 9:50 AM

Homer you did exactly what I knew you would do HA! Attack me back and try to correct your faults by lecturing me....

Were not in school and typing on a keyboard can get a little tricky. Heck my Husband Retired Civil Service and if he got to typing on a keyboard you would probably see more errors then lamont's. He didn't have to learn to type for his Job on the Air Base....

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 10:01 AM

small minds think small.....einstien couldnr put on his socks and?????????????and im not comparing anyone here to him but you know i said it.....form vs content.........HOMER is with the governor of mississippi" IT WASNT ALL THAT BAD".....amazing ......whats DISCRIMINATION got to do with liberals ????????? airplanes and clerks ......THANKS.........HOMER IS PERFECT ?????

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 10:32 AM

CJW i can tell by your posts you know better....the relative aspects of bissness are the same.YOU sound frustrated .....we all are.....this mess has been comming for years as far back as the 80'S for sure......the bottom fell out then but we PATCHED IT and ran with it we are paying now....the signs were there all the way back to reagan we cared to ignore because.....CERTAIN GROUPS WERE MAKING MILLIONS....AND THE AFFECTS OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING WOULD NOT AFFECT THEM.........ENRON WAS DOING WHAT BROUGHT DOWN THE ECONOMY AND WE IGNORED

I DONT THINK ANYONE SHOULD ALBI THAT

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 10:45 AM

You're just babbling now, lamont. You, too, are bordering on no more replies. I think I'm just going to end this here. I think you've given any person with logic and reason enough to go on to make their own decisions who's attacking who, who loves our country, and who wants to HOPE and CHANGE it.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 10:54 AM

Looks like Homer boy is playing the blame game now HA! It's nice to know he is done with his dreary comments

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 11:02 AM

I WILL PUT MY 28 YRS AND 4.5 YRS COMBAT TIME UP AGAINST YOURS ANYDAY......I SERVED SO YOU COULD DENERGRATE FREELY. DONT QUESTION MY ALLEGIANCE OR LOVE OF COUNTRY......TO SERVE UNDER SOME OF THE CONDITIONS I DID ARE FAR BEYOUND ANYTHING IM SURE YOU HAVE DONE OR WILL DO.......YOU WANT TO QUESTION AND ATTACK THATS FINE............but if you think that i will deal with that question quietly you are DEAD WRONG........look at yourself you obviosly dont stand for what you think you do or you wouldnt make the kind of accusation you just did.....

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 11:15 AM

cantjustwatch is spot on in his/her assessment.

lamont, I have a son over in iraq right now, so if you want to see who can pee the farthest when it comes to military service, I'm not interested. I respect you for serving, just as I am proud of my son who's over in the middle east as we speak. Nobody has attacked you lamont, I suggest you go reread posts. What I see is an inabiltiy by YOU to clarify your points. What I see is a LOT of namecalling, fingerpointing by YOU and that other poor touched soul. NOBODY called you a "2nd class citizen".....YOU CALLED YOURSELF THAT! Dennis Miller once said, "It' not about the COLOR of someone's skin anymore, it's about the thickness of it." Think about that, lamont.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 12:38 PM

CJW I guess we run in different circles, because I know of know one in this town who is milking the system, enlighten me. I do know a few people who are on SSD for very good reason's and if you knew them you would no why they aren't working and they collect SSD. Unemployment, I know of no one collecting unemployment, but hey if you know of some jobs out there, do tell me so I can pass the word on and then maybe someone could be hired.

It took my Grandson almost 6 months to get a job in this town, he finally got one and now has had it for about a year.... He applied almost every where in this town accept for jobs that require a degree. He is besides working attending college

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 1:28 PM

I don't know how many people that are unemployed could fill those spots you mentioned.

I don't know anyone who shot himself in the ankle and now collects SSD When did this happen ?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 1:57 PM

Just goes to show, not everyone should own a Gun !!

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 2:00 PM

Here's a scenario for you

one job opening for "Lot Attendant" 25 people apply for the job one gets hired how many didn't get hired?

Same thing as auto Detailer, only thing you have to have an opening or no one gets a job.....

So while the 24 didn't get hired for the one job their suppose to go hungry until they find a job and get hired?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 2:33 PM

LMAO! cantjustwatch, thank you for the Darwin Awards link! That just showcases how intelligent some people are!

Some people can't stay on topic in here, so their only option is to obfuscate. When that doesn't work, it degenerates further into name calling, which is exactly the kind of thing the original article was against.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:07 PM

More proof that some cannot read on this blog, as well. The job ad CLEARLY says 1 Detailer and Lot AttendantS. The "s" at the end of attendants implies PLURALITY...or, MORE THAN ONE NEEDED! Sheesh, we got some Darwin candidates right here.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM

CJW I don't know what you've been drinking but you need to go back and read who started getting off topic first. I have only been responding to what had already been said... HA!

Whining when I said I don't know of any one who is receiving unemployment and asking you if you knew who did? That's whining. ?? Who brought up Unemployment first ? Who was whining about someone they know that shot their self in the foot while drunk and gets SSD WASN'T ME !

I think you want to be noticed and you are for Entertainment Value nothing more !

I don't think I am getting an ADULT debate from you since you keep falling off topic.... AND then try to say it's me that got off topic. You are so entertaining and FUNNY !

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:16 PM

Even if it said Auto Detailers will those jobs listed be enough to cover all those unemployed in Elmore County ? Say what could Homer and CJW be related........both once again off topic and I am only responding. Was the Darwin link staying on topic ? You 2 are a real piece of work. I feel sorry for you both. Trying to blame me for not staying on topic. Your giving me the ammo to go off topic...... AND once again Homer can't stay away from me. He's still commenting about my posts in a round about way I think your attracted to me hahahahaha !

ADULT Debate>> with you 2 its impossible it's more like a little kids squabble

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:24 PM

CJW I DID NOT BLAME BUSH OR ANY REPUBLICAN,I SAID THAT THE PROBLEM STARTED WAY BACK WHEN AND NOBODY WOULD TOUCH IT,NOBODY.

YES AT THAT TIME IT JUMPED SO FAST WE HAD FUEL CRISIS THE POINT IS THOSE COST WHICH IN THIS CASE WAS QUESTIONED ARE PASSED TO YOU AND I AND CREATE MASSIVE SPINOFF PROBLEMS.......HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE TIME WE HERE PAY HIGHER GAS PRICES THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRYS AVERAGE.AND THAT OUR ATT GEN HAS SEVERAL TIMES HAD TO TAKE BIG OIL TO TASK FOR IT...

LIKE YOU IT IMPACTS ME GREATLY....I TALKED ABOUT A CIRCLE THAT CATCHES THE LEAST ABLE IN A VICE........i would think that you see that because WE to are caught in it.....why would you imply EVERYONE scams medicare......I agree you have people who scam every system.....but thats not the systems fault for the most part that is the dishonesty of the individual....i see that everyday at jacksons.......4 donuts and capaccino on me,,,,,(debit card idaho)....that card should be limited to bulk sales stables,period.........

BY NO MEANS THINK THAT I CONDONE THE ABUSE OF OUR HARD EARNED MONEY.AND I WILL TURN YOU IN IF YOU DO.TALK THEM AT JACKSONS AND PAULS THEY ARE SO FRUSTRATED WITH IT IM SURPRISED THEY CAN BE PLEASANT....................

I think i know who you are talking about.I COULD GET INTO THE NAME CALLING BISSNESS ON THAT ONE.......AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE AND HIS MOM HAVE BEEN SCAMING EVERYONE FOR YEARS AND THE STATE WONT LISTEN.....HES HAD ABOUT 7-8 DUI AND ONLY THE LAST TIME DID THEY GIVE HIM TIME(REAL TIME)

THAT IS AND AMAZING CASE.......WE GOT LUCKY HE DIDNT KILL ANYONE I KNOW OF.POSTER BOY FOR L..L....ENOUGH SAID...ABOUT 5 YRS AGO..SHOT IN FOOT AMPUTATED PART.

NO EXSUSES BUT WE NEED MORE THAN 7 JOBS......I WOULD IF I NEEDED A JOB PROBALLY TAKE LESS THAN,MOST PEOPLE WONT......WOULD YOU??????

TYPE a PERSONALTIES AND SURVIVORS WILL DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO......THATS WHY WE ARE WHAT WE ARE.......SOME PEOPLE SIMPLY CANT......IT WONT PAY THE MORTGAGE AND BUY FOOD NEVER MIND ANYTHING ELSE.......AND I REALIZE THEY ARE PROBALLY LIVING BEYOND THERE MEANS.........HOWEVER THE QUESTION BECOMES THERE MEANS NOW OR WHEN THEY HAD THE OTHER JOB.......HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WERE I AM COMMING FROM.

HOMER.... I SHOULDNT NEED A THICK SKIN.....NOBODY SHOULD.......IT DOESNT JUSTIFY YOU QUESTIONING MY ALLEGIANCE QUESTION YOUR OWN........I SALUTE YOUR SON. OBVIOSLY YOU DIDNT SERVE...I DONT HAVE AND ISSUE WITH YOUR SON.

CJW...... I HOPE THAT SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT....IF I MISINTERPRETED YOUR COMMENTS LET ME KNOW ................SEE YA

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM

Oh, and I'm the type of person that, when some idiot spews something they "heard" about someone they never really knew, it grates on me. Someone in here said Reagan had alzheimers when he was in office, this is patently FALSE! This was a bogus claim revived by one of Reagan's own sons to sell a book. And the morons lap this stuff up like it were candy. Adviser to Reagan, David Gergen, says Ronald was "as vital as ever". Reagan's doctor says that he did not show signs of alzheimers until 1993. Don't believe me? Read up on it: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 3:39 PM

lamont, now you gone and done it. You not only need thicker skin, but you need to take a course on class and dignity as well. Let me tell you why I never joined the military, lamont, since this seems to be such a "gotcha" for you. I am the only son of a career marine. My dad saw much fighting over in Viet Nam and is a highly decorated soldier. It was my father's wishes that I be the FIRST male in our entire family to go to college, rather than enlist. I will NEVER forget that day of my graduation with my father there. He was crying, something he didnt do often because he was so proud me. I'll tell you something else about my father, lamont. He's also the kind of guy that would never think of hanging his years of service over someone else's head to give an ILLUSION that he's a better American, a better patriot than someone else. No, he would NEVER DO what you just did, sir. My father had CLASS and DIGNITY, lamont. Something much better than the bitterness, hatred, and inferiority complex that seems to drive you. Shame on you, lamont, for thinking your military service somehow makes you better than anyone else. And shame on you for attempting to use it this way.

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 4:04 PM

The Rumor of Reagan having Alzheimer's began the last 2 years he was in office. I'm the one as you say SPEWED about him having Alzheimer's on this blog. Here's what my spewing said

"It had been said when Reagan was in office, Nancy was taking care of business because of his Alzheimer's. What a great lady she is ! :)"

It never has been know to be factual that he had Alzheimer's while in office. He did have a psychological test done before he left office because of falling off a horse. However he started having problems with memory (forgetfulness) in the late 80's and early 90's. His Mother and Brother had problems with it to, they then called it senility not Alzheimer's

He didn't actually get diagnosed with Alzheimer's until 3 or 4 years after he was out of office.

Note: It wasn't be first who strayed off topic

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 4:16 PM

NOTE : My first husband is a decorated Viet Nam Vet and we had 3 boys together out of which all 3 went on to college. Two got their degree's and one not only got his degree but joined the Idaho National Guard which helped him pay for College. I am very proud of him. He now lives in New York with his wife and 2 boys and is still in the Guard as a Major....

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 4:22 PM

LET ME GET THIS right......you question my ALLEGIANCE AND THATS OK...........i dont think so

dont tell me you didnt. go read the post and HOMER all of a sudden your WHINING .....seems to me that you ought to practice what you preach about thick skin ......and i didnt question your allegiance ,patiotism or INTELLIGENCE any of that DID I???????? seems to me i heard something about i should be gratefull ,,,,,seems to me you should be.......im sure your father was proud we all are ........but you need to remember what class and dignity are all about.....and as you attempted to tear at mine you thought i would back off. your college education doesnt make you better......i have one of those.and you summarily dismissed my sons a while back remember?????????SO CRY ELSEWERE.......projection.. YOU attempt to attack MRS M .THE NAMES YOU USE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO TRY AND MAKE YOURSELF FEEL SUPERIOR.......WETHER SHE OR I AM INTELLEGENT THE DARWIN COMMENT ETC AND YOU DO THAT TO ATTEMPT TO PUT PEOPLE IN THEIR PLACE ...... .......WRONG......I MAY NOT BE A MARINE........BUT I FIGHT LIKE ONE, TIME IN THE BUSH RUBS OFF......I HAD CLASSROOMS FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.......TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR........YOUR JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 6:16 PM

lamont, I am done talking to you as well. You have proven yourself to be too ignorant. YES, I said it again....TOO IGNORANT for civil discourse. And if you actually ever DID attend a school of higher learning, pity they didn't teach you how to spell and construct a cohesive sentence. You, lamont, are part of the problem in the country, along with that other whacko, NOT part of the solution. I pray for our country now more than ever after witnessing the moronicism displayed by you two. Truly an embarrassing shame. You can post more stupid replies if you want. I'm DONE with this. I'm sure I'll see both of you on another article posting ridiculous comebacks, immature insults, and muddled obfuscation. Until then, have a great day!

-- Posted by Mtn.Homer on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 6:25 PM

SORRY ABOUT THAT PEOPLE IT WAS COMMING

ZOOK.......AMBUSHES ARE ..............

MS M I COULDNT LET IT GO.......BUT THANKS ANYHOW

HE MIGHT NOT BELIEVE IT BUT IM NEITHER DUMB

OR STUPID......ENOUGH OF HIM

CJW im glad you came back at me gave a chance to get some things straight

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 6:26 PM

Lamont

That's ok he can call me all the names he wants I know who the ignorant one is posting and it's not me or you....

I don't know how long he has lived here, but it could be possible that he went to school with my kids and step-kids.....

On a good note he's going to Pray for our Country!! I can sleep better tonight knowing he's praying.

Homer do me a favor and don't post on my blog

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 6:50 PM

Zook I enjoyed it

I had nothing better to do on a rainy day :) Thank You Homer and CJW for making it a fun day, certainly not boring.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 7:03 PM

I know I've said this before, but I think a review is in order. The statements are not my own...they are recalled from the lexicon of sensible advice passed down from gramdma to grandkid:

"Never get in an argument with a fool. Witnesses will have too much trouble telling who is who."

My favorite: "Never wrestle with a pig, you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it."

I think this string has gone too far past when the train jumped the track. Folks are claiming to offer no offense, and are trying to be witty; but, they are failing on both counts. As such, I can't separate the pigs from the fools and I really like to wrestle...I'm just not willing to get dirty or be confused for a fool.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Jan 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM


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