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Obama gets low marks

Posted Tuesday, September 7, 2010, at 8:39 AM

In 10 weeks, the voters will go to the polls for the off-year general election -- an election that many pundits believe will be a referendum on the president's policies.

No president does well in their first-term off-year election. Even Kennedy and Reagan, arguably the two most popular presidents of the last 50 years, suffered reverses. Part of that was due to the fact that problems they'd inherited from previous presidents hadn't been fully fixed, and part because people didn't like some of the programs they'd pushed through Congress.

So any losses Obama suffers have to be considered as a matter of scale. And the scale of house and senate seats he's going to lose could be significant, far beyond what is "normal." The dream of Republicans, and they have a shot at it, is to regain control of the House of Representatives and get enough senate seats to restore their ability to filibuster bills.

But even Republicans are concerned about the elections, with a number of incumbents falling in their own party primaries, largely to more radical Tea Party candidates. So even a "victory" by Republicans may be a pyrrhic one. Party unity could be shattered. The result would be to only add to the stagnation in Congress.

In Idaho, two of the three incumbents for national office -- Rep. Mike Simpson and Sen. Mike Crapo -- seem destined for easy re-election, having brushed aside their primary challenges and facing disorganized and underfunded Democratic opponents this fall. Only incumbent Rep. Walt Minnick, a Democrat, may have anything to worry about, despite having cast a lot of "Republican" votes during his first term in office.

So Idaho won't be the test the election will be in much of the rest of the country to let us know where the voters stand on Obama's policies.

Let's take a quick look at where we think he stands.

He's ending the war in Iraq, but realistically, this was pretty much the timetable Gen. Petreaus had set during the Bush administration, so we don't give him too much credit for that. He's amped up the war in Afghanistan, but his timetable for withdrawal will make it hard to achieve all of our goals in that country. At best he gets a C- for his military foreign policy, and that may be generous.

He got his promised health-care reform through Congress, but it wasn't the bill most of us were looking for. It will help many individual Americans to get insurance, but it did nothing to control costs and its impacts, especially those on small business, have yet to be fully felt. Furthermore, we expect it will be heavily revised in the next Congress. Let's give him an incomplete on that one.

His response to the oil spill was only marginally better than Bush's response to Katrina, and exposed a bureaucracy that was not only incompetent, but possibly corrupt as well. Add that to the poor work of health inspectors in the food chain and he's really got egg on his face. Call it a D for oversight of the federal bureaucracy, and he gets a barely passing grade only because he's promised reforms that might actually work.

On the economy, he inherited a massive mess and the only hope was to throw money at it. Doing nothing would have been worse.

We avoided a depression but seem stuck in a recession, and frankly, the "fight anything Obama proposes" attitude of the Republicans hasn't helped fix this mess. There haven't been a lot of alternatives proposed, except to keep giving the rich tax cuts. That really won't help, because the first rule of the rich is never to invest your own money in your business (borrow it or sell stock and put enough cutouts in the way you don't personally get hurt if it tanks).

The famous stimulus money helped, but didn't really kick-start the economy like everyone hoped. The Wall Street reforms were largely a good package of laws, but they haven't done anything to get the banks to start loaning money to small businesses again, and that's the one thing that's really needed. Bailing out the banks left a bitter taste in everyone's mouth but the alternative was to see a series of massive bank failures all across the country, which would have been worse.

Still, in the end, it's all about jobs, and they're still not coming back like everyone hoped they would. And the long-term debt, which probably had to be incurred to save the short-term economy, is really, really scarey.

He gets a C- on this one for simply avoiding disaster, but at a cost that may create another one in the future. Once again, that grade may be generous.

As a leader, he probably gets a B. He can still inspire crowds, but the body of work he's produced so far doesn't inspire quite the adulation he generated during his campaign.

Overall, however, it's not an impressive report card -- average at best. The question now is what viable and better alternatives will actually be proposed by candidates getting elected this November? Are they going to run FOR something, or simply against HIM. We hope it's the former. We fear it's the latter.


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He gets a "C" & a "B" for government takeovers, mandates, lawsuits against a state trying to PROTECT itself (which the Feds will NOT do), bowing and apologizing, EXPANDING an ALREADY too-large of a government, LIFTING the debt ceiling for both Fannie & Freddie, turning his "inherited" trillion-dollar bebt into THIRTEEN now, which he still blames Bush for..........unemployment now into the TWO-digit figures.

Yes. By all means. Wonderful. He and his entire alumni CERTAINLY rate a "C" and a "B"!

As for Republican alternatives..........you have to be allowed INTO "closed doors" first, and then be LISTENED to............which does not fit into the Democrat plan.

And you libs conveniently never mention those grand and glorious UPSWING economic years, where Bill Clinton has forever been enshrined as the master of building surplus........how it was ACTUALLY accomplished!

Clinton's Congress was under Republican control from 1994 to 2000............you remember that.........Congress/ where bills are drafted & written, and legislation is introduced.

All Clinton had to do was read & sign what came across his desk. THIS administration reads NOTHING.........it just signs in darkness.

So, do Republicans have better ideas?..........look a little closer at Bill Clinton's regime that all of you lefties love to praise.

Study your government. It's the CONGRESS that does most of the good/and most of the damage. Spotlight is always on the president for the praise or blame.

The GOP is actually playing it smart. Shut-out and not listened-to during this socialist-agenda takeover, they've elected to sit back now, and let the all-knowing "committee-of-czars" drown itself in its own corruption. They aren't putting their "fingerprints" on ANY of this, and they know that as the mid-terms approach, the Dems are NOT going to be able to point fingers this time.

They can't. They've had total control. Everybody knows it.

"Tax cuts for the rich." Spoken like a true Democrat, and we've heard it time and again.

It is the RICH who own the factories, companies and corporations...........it is the RICH who HIRE...........(as in------"JOB CREATION"). The left has never understood that. Never.

When was the last time ANY of you out there ever got a job from a POOR man?

The stimulous was a total waste of money. You want to "stimulate" the economy? You give tax cuts to the working man. When the working man has a few extra dollars in his wallet, he SPENDS it, putting it right back into this economy.

And you do as Reagan did...............you put a friggin' FREEZE on all this pork-crap GOVERMENT frivilous spending. THAT's the FIRST place we need to cut!

A "B" in leadership would mean "Leading by example", not "do as we say, not as we do."

We shouldn't have to help pay for Pelosi's annual $102,000 booze allotment on that SEVEN FIFTY SEVEN she "has to have"...........while our beer is being taxed some more.

"B" & "C" eh?...............yeah, I guess I can see that!

Re: the last line.........it'll be the FORMER. The Dems will get no help from the GOP now. Desperate for votes, they would probably try to figure out ways to turn GOP ideas into THEIR own before the mid-terms.

Just as Obama has done in Afghanistan. He was AGAINST every surge, but now that he sees it working to some degree, he's been over there photo-op-ing with the troops, trying to ride in on their coat-tails, as if to so............"look what WE've done."

The Democrats back there are hypocrites. When the GOP refused to aid and abet this fleecing of America..........when they REFUSED to go along with these mandates........when they REFUSED to sign things without first READING them............they were shut out and called "un-cooperative"

Now...........the Dems are crying that the Repubs haven't come up with anything of their own.

Think not? Wait'll the seats change and they HAVE to been "allowed-in."

Not to fear..............remember where the ideas came from under your golden boy, "Slick Willie."

The boys and girls on the right have a PROVEN record of capability.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 10:00 AM

PS. I'd give Obama a "D" for following the steady advice of the cut-throats in Congress.

And because THEY have done this WILLFULLY and in full knowledge of the damage they've inflicted on this country for their own gains and age-old agendas...........I'd give THEM an "F".

We'll see what the VOTERS give 'em, in exactly 60 days from now!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 7:02 AM

dont know what happened to my post it seems to have disappeared......dont know why?????i didnt curse or attack anyone or anything......whats up????or is this for the right wing only????????

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 9:33 AM
Brenda Fincher Bus. Mgr. MHN
OK, I left you a personal voice mail message. Right Wing??? Really??? I have posted this a zillon times. Abbreviated cursing counts. Everyone have a wonderful weekend. B

sorry......i had noticed other abbr wont do it again........smile

-- Posted by lamont on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 1:34 PM

Thanks Brenda.............good to know it wasn't just ME who's been erased from time to time.

I've gotten carried away in the heat of the moment and been "disappeared" myself a few times, Lamont.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 9:35 PM

.............and then there was FIFTY-NINE..........

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 9:36 PM

And here comes Holder again..........

STILL unwilling to do HIS job on the border..........NOW he's suing "Sheriff Joe."

These guys are nothing more than dirtbags, who should be tried for treason, and shot.

How can you play POLITICS with our National Security?

Are there NO SCRUPLES left in this government? No sense of Americanism or decency?

These back-stabbing socialists do not even deserve to LIVE here, let alone be in CHARGE of anything!

Any way you slice it, our country is being SOLD OUT by those with personal ambitions of monarchy!

Power and agenda............agenda and power, and they're trying to tax us in every way they can to help PAY for this crap.

Holder is a traitor to this country, as is every human being who prods and supports him. He stands with the illegals..........NOT with the American citizens who pay his salary.

He just CANNOT force himself to do the right thing............be an AMERICAN and DO the job he is suing Arizona for doing, and now Sheriff Arpaio.

Those "potential illegal votes" are SO VITAL to these thieves, they will back-stab the voters----many of whom helped them get INTO office.

Next thing you know, they'll be giving their blessing on a Taco stand being built at the front door of the Alamo.

You lefties out there just jump right on in, wave your hammers and sickles as you praise these freaks........keep right on DEFENDING them as they continue to tax you out of existence, and sell out what USED to be your country.

Pretty soon you'll be pressing THREE for English.

You guys out there all independently wealthy? You'd BETTER be!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Sep 3, 2010, at 10:15 PM

Saturday morning and gee..............I guess I have to back off a little this morning.

Maybe the "stimulous" IS working after all!

It was just announced this morning that some professor has just been granted $700,000 of OUR "stimulous" money to develop a JOKE TELLING machine that will automatically feed into the internet-------------something about "improving morale."

That $700,000 alone, creates at least ONE job!

Also-----------6.9 MILLION to do some restoration work at Dry Tortogus National Park,............and $554,000 to replace windows at the Mount St. Helens Visitor Center.

People are OUT OF WORK, and here are yet three MORE examples of how our tax dollars are being spent by this administration.

Obama (yesterday), now says he has "another plan" to boost the economy. He insists it is not another "stimulous", but it WILL mean another "increase" in taxes. Just brings a "patriotic" tear to your eye, doesn't it?

He's supposed to make a big announcement this next Wednesday. Just can't WAIT to hear THIS one!

Not ALL "gloom & doom" though.............there ARE obviously SOME real Americans walking around today-------------a major building contractor in New York, who built the new Yankee Stadium (among other things), has pledged not only to REFUSE work, equipment or supplies to build this new mosque. but is also gathering up every OTHER contractor he can to JOIN him in this effort.

Holder will probably sue HIM too.......then blame Bush for some kind of "conspiracy."

And we lost ANOTHER 54,000 jobs last month.

59............as the time clock continues to click away the 4th quarter of this "game."

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Sep 4, 2010, at 7:24 AM

well i see we are distorting again.....with glee...1----the suit against the sheriff stems from and investigation over a year old....he refused to provide documents ....and has done so for over 15 months.....but i guess that doesnt count.....the border has gotten more manpower,more money troops,and agents just what is it you want them to do?????????that we can do.....maybe a soldier every 6 FT AND WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH.......stimulus money goes to the states and they decide what projects......i think you should point fingers at the states......for there stupity......700 thousand to professor the school alloted that.....because they have the final say.........illegal votes how do we do that?????? now thats a stretch for sure........the contractor in NY will be sued for sure......and that is not the way we conduct business in this country or so im told.......lets see.....the catholic church condone and facilatated child molestation.........no more churches for them......the morman church condones child molestation and poligamy no more churches for them......the baptist church condoned segragation and facilitated it in the south no more churches for them......and the people who attended those churches .....are all enemys of the state.....so im saying were will it stop?????? answer it wont .......you zook we are on the list too.......got and ex (r) senator who says we vietnam vets got to much and should be cut....what do you think about that???????you know i sometime dont like the rants but we can at least tell the whole story and not half of it......why is the bill for small busness being held up???????? im poor and i hire people .....i dont make 250.000.......i pay about 2300.00 in taxes a year and in the whole scheme of things its ok......i guess we would rather not pay anything.......and then what???????i can see a lot of services and things we take for granted going away..........lets start wirh I-84....the FAA,.......the armed forces thats just a few......health care i have a friend who has put herself in a place to lose everything her husband left her to include house car everything....at 80 yrs old to medical bills for a child.....we are talking 250.000.00 or more in 18 months ......is that right????????? i dont think so......but by all means lets make money......and you know there will be a change and that change will bring another war......stimulus.......iran or north korea......possibly both....but the economy will revive...and thats all that counts right.....well me personally im tired of feeding the undertakers with our children for no reason and or lies........so that some billionaire can continue to fuel his yaught......poor people hire to and small people provide jobs.....but thats not what some want. they want cooperate america otherwise they would pass the bill........it tells it all......and the good sheriff has been under investigation for civil rights violations for yrs.....you dont really think this just started....there doing there jobs.....what they need is some understanding and help would go a long way but we would rather marginalize a president....thats more important......shame on us.......not the america i shed blood for......and please dont tell me about fairness there has been nothing fair about this whole process....it reeks.....and you shall see........we do the fighting and dying......and some say thats the way it is .....the rich get richer ......remember.... arnt you tired of that....and by the way that is what is happening.....checkout that stats on wages in the 70 s compared to wages now.....have a great day7

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Sep 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM

Well, I think you have to take it to its core......

Had all this taxpayer-funded "stimulous" money NOT been available in the first place, NO state could waste it.

"Illegal votes".........the left is in serious trouble even as we speak, and things do NOT look good for the president in 2012.

If amnesty is granted and the borders are left open, who do you suppose all of these millions of illegals are going to register and VOTE for in 2012?....the "kind and generous ones who LET THEM IN.

It's devastating for America that some of those in power are so willing to scrap our very security, just to gain 14 million votes from those who aren't supposed to be here at all.

Yes, secutity HAS been beefed-up finally. They're sending about 30 guard troops a month to take over admin positions to free up a few actual troops on the border.

Yes.........active duty troops "every 6 feet" probably WOULD be possible, if we brought 'em all home from all over the world and just put 'em on OUR borders...............as was originally INTENDED 235 years ago.............instead of being the "world's policeman".

They're going after "Joe' for not providing documents............that's amusing, coming from THIS administration.

Did you know that a county Sheriff..........ANY county Sheriff, actually has more power than any Federal agent? It's a fact.........goes back the the days of the high sheriff of Nottingham.

A county Sheriff is an ELECTED official who does NOT work for the Feds, and is answerable only to the voters in his county. That's why Arpaio basically tells both the Feds and the liberal Phoenix mayor to STUFF IT, and is ALSO why, incidently, he gets re-elected by a LANDSLIDE everytime he runs for re-election.

A lawsuit against that NY contractor will never work. He has the right to turn down business if he wants.

Decency alone should guide this "mosque" business. Nobody is trying to deny the Muslims to build a mosque. They already HAVE them all over the country.

But it is WRONG to build one in the immediate vicinity of ground zero. It would be like the Japanese building a war memorial next to the sunken Arizona at Pearl.........or Taco Bell building a huge restaurant at the front gates of the Alamo.

When you consider the fact that MANY foreign countries won't even allow a WESTERN church to exist ANYWHERE in THEIR countries...........I don't see where we are being so 'evil." about this.

Have you ever seen MEXICO's "immigration" laws? Lamont.......take a few minutes and look up how THEY handle immigration...........look up the immigration laws of some of the other countries.

But particularly...........look up the IMMIGRATION LAWS of MEXICO.............the ones who cry to the ACLU, the Sierra Club and any other pinko organiztion that might listen to them............the ones who while about how "UNFAIR" WE are...........

Even the ARIZONA laws aren't as STRICT as MEXICO's..............but it is WE who are "UNFAIR!"..........you bet.

You and I are walking side-by-side, totally in-step on the "feeding of our young people to the undertaker" while the fat-cats continue to make money of off these "would-be"----"gain-nothing"/"win-nothing" wars.

People assumed I would be "deeply-moved" when I got to the Wall last month.

I was never more angry.

The president "marginalizes" himself everytime he goes along with those who surround him.

Lamont........I've grown very curious about how things are actually operating back there. I'm really begining to wonder if Obama's LACK of experience has made him a puppet to the old crocks who used his "charm and charisma" just to get him elected.

Once in total power............did the "Young Dude" just become a figurehead who HAD to listen to the Dodds, Kennedys and Feinsteins........because he truly DOESN'T know the ropes?

Sorry man.....but reality check here, beyond the election/honeymoon period. A first-term young Senator with NO executive experience, is a "babe in the woods" when all of a sudden, he has the whole country and WORLD at his door.

He's got all of these multi-term incumbents with rusty axes to grind to guide him...........and if they figure wrong...........it's HIS head on the block, not theirs.

Or so they thought, anyway.

It'll be 58 in the morning.

I'm tired of the POLITICIANS getting richer.

Businessmen getting richer is ok with me, because as they grow & prosper.............guess what they have to do to keep growing?........they have to HIRE.

I didn't write Webster's Dictionary. but to ME anyway..........HIRING is the same thing as CREATING JOBS.

When you're being taxed more and more and more....................you cut BACK more and more and more...............this is called JOB LOSS.

And when you give tax cuts to the WORKING man, he has more money in his pocket.

When he has more money in his pocket, he SPENDS and invests in this economy. THIS is what actually STIMULATES the economy.

Why is it so hard for the left to understand that?

If you think you're gonna be out of a job next month, do you go out and buy a new Buick next week?

Employers who don't know what's coming around the corner.............DO NOT INCREASE THEIR WORK FORCE.

It is the GOVERNMENT that needs to STOP all of this frivilous waste and unecessary spending. It's not OUR job to continue picking up the tab, so they can keep giving it away, partying, buying their yachts and mansions.

Lamont...........if YOU and I spent as recklessly as Uncle Sam does................WE'D be out out the STREET in NO TIME!

You and I can't TAX anybody to re-fill OUR pockets, you and I can't PRINT more money whenever WE run out of it!

Speaking of tax money..........if Eric Holder took the TAXPAYER MONEY he is spending on these ill-aimed lawsuits....and used it for SECURITY......I wonder how much more barrier area, body-heat sensors and Border Agents he could come up with?

This however, WOULD require that he STOP trying to hang the "good guys' and actually DO his job for once!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Sep 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM

good guys????????? hmmm.....you didnt addresse one thing that has to do with the wrongs that are being perpertrated on us.......how about the small business bill???????how about the fact that the right wants to privatize social security.......what they want is your money to put in cooperate america ......if that had been in place now.......nobody would have a retirement......how come you didnt comment on the senators proposal.....to cut you and i .....we got to much........i guess he figures we lost.....he needs to look in the mirror........i dont care about mexicos laws or any other country for that matter i am only intrested in what WE stand for,because thats what i fought for..........do you know how far a city block is in new york??????????? it is about the distance of 4 in mtn home........and thats a fact did you know that at least 30 muslims died in the towers and some of them were first responders.........kinda like the 444 in world war 2 ........we forget to easy......this thing with the mosque is going to get some innocent people killed and i guess that will make some people happy ......(REVENGE).....and you know what they will probally be US citizens......how ironic......but thats never stoped haters before why now????????? this administration has deported more illegals than any other........the economy has slowed the illegals to a record low.......as stated before stop hiring them they will stop comming.......but cooperate america needs slaves so guess who is on the selling block.......again how about no taxes at all will that make you happy ????????...you didnt answer that why not????... has anyone really stoped and thought about what it is we really want or better still need........and to not talk about that skirts the issues......i noticed that things that touch you hard zook you dont mention......i think you should think about some of them.......me i really have a hard time with constant non stop war.....constant nonstop degrading of wages and our humanity as a whole......the world aint perfect.......and we are not helping it any or ourselfes.....we need to get to the center and if we dont we are doomed to the same old stuff.....got to go .......gig to pl,ay

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Sep 4, 2010, at 6:13 PM

oh......paper work gw paperwork showed he would probally have jailed you and me.........and someplace were there was no habeus corpus.......that administration was as tyrannical as it gets......dont cast stones when you live in a glass house........this administration went about protecting the country and gw by not making those papers public we need to remember that

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Sep 4, 2010, at 6:22 PM

There's obviously something in that bill that has a "stiulous II" tint in it, because it is NOT like the GOP to oppose assistance to the business community.

And anyway............why don't the Democrats just PASS it themselves, like they have EVERYTHING ELSE. They haven't included or needed the Republicans for anything YET, have they?------from the bailouts to the stimulous to Obamacare----------can't they get enough support from within their OWN majority now?

Privatizing Social Security might not be a half-bad idea. Since the GOVERNMENT has been running it all these years, they have first taken from OUR paychecks to pay for S.S.............and then they have ROBBED that fund for their OTHER projects for DECADES now. They've PROVEN that THEY can't be trusted with it.

If it were privatized, we would voluntarily put money into an account that the Feds could NOT get their sticky hands on, and it WOULD be there later when we needed it.

Basically, those who seek to privatize S.S. are people who don't trust this government, (and with good reason).

Also........under a private system (IF it's an honest one), the ILLEGALS can't tap into it either! Think on it, Lamont-------the Dems and Repubs BOTH.........have NOT been "good stewards with our money, especially that money which was TAKEN from us--------FOR us. Now, have they?

30 Muslims out of 3,000, eh? That's certainly "majority enough" to let them have their way on the mosque issue. Keep in mind that Muslims don't value human life as WE do. They'll die for "Allah" and those "72 virgins" at the drop of a hat.

I doubt anyone will get hurt if that mosque is built further away.............why is it that WE are always the ones expected to make the concessions? And WHY are we paying for that Imam back there to travel the world? Why are WE paying for that?

No Lamont, you NEED to care about Mexico's immigration laws............because it's the Mexicans and liberals who keep beating the drum about how "unfair" WE are.

The HEIGHT of hypocracy, baby.........if it were AMERICANS trying to sneak into MEXICO..........WE would not be given the same breaks they are demanding of US.-----------let's look at this HONESTLY now.......

Hey.............go into most other countries........go march down THEIR streets waving American flags demanding and protesting..........see where YOU end up.

"Rights" in this world only seems to go ONE WAY where the U.S. is concerned...............we give and they take.

Americans break foreign laws and are jailed for it. Illegals come HERE and the administration SUES our own INVADED state..............we side with THEM.........then we go after the Sheriff!

Any comment on that?

Lamont...........Lamont............we've GOT to have taxes. Says so in the Constitution, because an HONEST government needs that money to provide security and services for US

But this is the key words in our founder's blueprints............for US

Not for Europe, Africa, Asia and every OTHER Tom, Dick & Harry who has his hand out.

Please understand.........I have NO PROBLEM with taxes. They ARE necessary.

I have a PROBLEM with that money constantly being BLOWN on crap I would NEVER support!........and then being steadily hit up for MORE!

If they want to build tunnels for turtles , let 'em dip into their OWN pockets for it. This is OUR money, Lamont. OURS. NOT THEIRS to squander as they wish.

58 days.

Bash Bush all you want. I didn't like him either. HE is the one who let those two Border Agents sit in prison for shooting that DRUG RUNNER!

It was their own fault, though. They SHOULD have killed him and tossed the body somewhere, so there'd only have been one side of the story.

Bush is also responsible for the "Vietnam II" going on right now-----------along with his DEMOCRAT Congress for continuing to FUND it.

Joe Arpaio is one of the very few officials left who is actually LOOKING OUT for us and enforcing the law that the feds will NOT, for political reasons. He shouldn't be tampered with.

And what say you.............about the "amnesty" for 2012 votes? What other reasons could they have for WANTING to grant amnesty, and BLOCKING Arizona, when it is clearly their job to PROTECT our borders? Any thoughts along those lines?

Why do they side with the ILLEGALS on a definitive law/unlawful issue? Might there be SOMETHING TO BE GAINED here? Is there?

Shame, ain't it? It's taken a trashing of our economy to "slow down" the influx at the borders..............because the FEDS won't do it, (although they'll sue anybody who DOES take a stand, eh?)

You're right about coming down hard on those who HIRE illegals.............but there's two things wrong with that:

1. If our borderes were properly sealed to begin with, they'd never get the CHANCE to hire illegals.

2. The first time anybody DOES drop the hammer on some "under-the-table" employer, they'll have the wrath of the entire Democratic party, the ACLU, the Sierra Club and a dozen other organizations screaming "foul", "human rights" and a load of other crap that favors the intruders.

Ever notice.......it's almost always the "activists" who do little else in life that CONTRIBUTE to anything, are always SPEARHEADING these "causes" against their own country.

I was reminded of that in D.C., when I saw and photgraphed "Archie Bunker's chair in the Smithsonian.

Archie was the WORKING GUY trying to make ends meet. Mike "Meathead" Stivik (the liberal),and Gloria were living off of him and constantly telling him how Nixon's government OWED everybody.

The "Meathead" never worked, but was always ready to tell everybody what was wrong, as he stuffed his face at the table.

"Archie" wasn't always right about everything, but as I left that particular wing of the Smithsonian, I couldn't help but ponder. A LOT of things old Archie said---------we have SEEN and CONTINUE to see happening right now in front of us.

Archie played the role of bigot----------which was wrong-----------but he made an awful lot of sense everywhere else. He (his role character) was RIGHT about a LOT of things.

"Youse pinko liberals ain't gonna be happy until you flush dis whole country down da TERLET!"

Everybody laughed at him on Saturday nights.

Ain't too many folks laughing today.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 8:44 AM

PS...hope the gig went well last night. Had a jam session last week. Probably playing Saturday night, and we're supposed to play about an hour at the Nampa Civic Center in a couple of weeks for some Bluegrass Appreciation Day.

Details still a little sketchy.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 8:54 AM

the bill contains no stimulus,its paid for ,does not increase deficet,all it does is make the banks that took stimulus have to loan to small business, the dems do not have a 60 vote majority,and the repubs will vote like the dems in block to block it.......now that is not what we pay them for.......and they have admitted that non passage is a political move and nothing more.....amnesty i havnt heard about anyone proposing amnesty for amnesty sake......we will never be able to just up and deport 11 to 12 mil people at once unless you want a police state because thats what it would take and at that point EVERYONE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SEARCH WITHOUT WARRANTS ETC.......so again you can be for that if you want but again were does it stop once it starts.and as long as you figure it cant happen to you you will say its ok......but when it does the question will be how did this happen....WE CANNOT SUSPEND OUR RIGHTS AS CITZENS TO ATTEMPT TO ROUND UP ALL THESE PEOPLE........there has got to be a better solution.....through attrition......we wont get them all i dont care what we do........ i cant believe you want to privatize social security........after what the financial instituions did in the last 10 yrs.....if we had our money there you whould have exactly zero now.........and no recourse to get any......they would say thats tough that is the chance you take investing i dont buy it..........ask the people who have lost........now what about the senator who wants to cut you off???????? is that ok too ????????? come on spit it out i think his attitude should tell you what he thinks sbout us.....those are the kinda things that sneak up on you.....he is the same guy who wants to privatize.....so next he will want us to pay into a fund for our treatment........problem private... sector will hold that too,,, use it for what they want... if it doesnt work out oh well......both of these partys are not in our best intrest just one is more than the other........big busness is not my savior but there are people who think they are........and as long as they are making money they will throw you and i to the wolfes .......get off the mexicans they are not the problem. they con tribute to it... the problem is government and corperate america..... the problem is greed and the use of people to foster that need.....as long as we could use those people without a cost we did... now that it could cost we have no need......how about getting on the corperations that have out sourced jobs with our tax money ........the immergration problem is a smoke screen to hide what has really happened.....look at it that way and you might see it differently..... and im not saying im right...... i just say lets look at it a different way......got to go...... think about it

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 10:40 AM

zook why the sarcasm concerning the muslims that died in the world trade center??????? i dont get that......did you forget that we have born americans who are of the islamic faith,or do we just need someone to hate ? that was uncalled for and they are full paricipants in our society it was not about MAJORITY ENOUGH and HUMAN LIFE...it was about our citzens being attacked.......ALL OF THEM.....from what you said i guess your only and AMERICAN AS YOU DEEM FIT..........SO MY GOOD MAN WERE DOES THAT LEAVE ME???????? OR ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE.......what is says is if you are not WASP you dont count.....and dont say thats not true... read what you said.....and think about that hard.......citzen

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 12:01 PM

Well, what did we do BEFORE we had Social Security? We learned to SAVE, didn't we? As I understand it, S.S. was put into place to make up for those of us who didn't have good savings skills, so there WOULD be a little something at the end, which as we know SINCE....BOTH parties have robbed from.

Ok.let's say we WENT to a Privatized S.S.

Unless it TOO was "mandated", folks would have the option on whether or not to participate. Certainly no more risky than what we have NOW, eh?

But by the SAME token, if the government-run S.S. was CANCELLED to make WAY for this new "privatized option,".............seems to me they would HAVE to STOP taking that money out of your paycheck every week.

And that money would now be YOURS. We've already learned to budget AROUND that which is witheld............so we'd just sock it away in a safe box, and it would BE there for our later years, or let it draw some interest in a bank, if that be your taste.

Bottom line here, is that the FEDS wouldn't get a dime of it to waste, and it would be YOURS whenever you wanted it.

YOU would be the only one you had to trust with YOUR money, and if you wanted to donate it to care for illegals, or any other pork project, that would be YOUR decision............not theirs.

Ok...........immigration..........maybe we "realistically" CAN'T just "round 'em all up and deport 'em."

That doesn't make it ok to grant AMNESTY either! And this is something that nearly every Democrat in Congress is in FAVOR of. This is no hidden secret either...........it is widely and publicly known, even ADMITTED by many of them.

Obama, Holder and Pelosi call it "immigration reform"...........but like "taxes" vs "fees" now, it's still the same thing.

The illegals aren't the entire problem, but they suck a lot of blood from this system. First off, they DON'T pay taxes, but get benefits. They bunch up in houses and send money back to the people in THEIR country so MORE of them can pay the "coyotes" to sneak 'em in here.

NO, they do NOT pay taxes into our system as the left likes to echo. If you aren't a legal citizen, you don't have a SSN. If you don't have a SSN, the FEDS don't TAKE from you, except at the gas pumps and grocery stores. And not even THEN if the state is giving you FOOD STAMPS.

Corporate America might be an enemy to you, but they ARE the ones who provide the bulk of the JOBS here. They aren't hiring NOW because they haven't a CLUE about what's coming NEXT from this administration.

Outsourcing didn't begin with Obama, but it will continue to ESCALATE as long as we threaten to CONTINUE "taxing the rich".......I mean, what's the incentive to STAY here and hire?

And I've heard from several different sources, that according to the overall figures, the "rich" already DO pay the lion's share of the tax burdens in this country.

Who is making a "smokescreen" with immigration? The state of Arizona? For what purpose?

So far, I've answered your questions to the best of my thoughts, but I would STILL like to get YOUR thoughts on why only the DEMS have "amnesty" on the table. Are they ALL into "Human Rights" now, or is it in FACT the 14-MILLION potential votes in THEIR column if they can manage to LEGALIZE and REGISTER these law-breakers?

Which is it?

And Lamont............are you one of the millions who do NOT click together border-sealing with another 9/11?. Do you think this border thing is only about keeping the illegal MEXICANS out? Do you NOT think we should be concerned about terrorist infilration anymore?

Border Patrols HAVE discovered and picked up Muslim prayer rugs along the border!

Are they all through trying to blow us up, now? Is there now some moritorium on bombvests?

Ok........I apologize for my "sarcastic" remarks about these "peace loving followers of the Koran."

More direct...........(and only because I think I've gotten to know you well enough to ask this----------hope so anyway----------):

Birmingham Alabama..........can't quote this from memory, but I think it was the 16th Street Baptist Church. The one that was blown up and those 4 little innocent girls were killed.......

scenario.............the KKK wants to build a headquarters in the same neighborhood.

Definitely WRONG!!..........but according to the criteria laid down by the left.........they've still got a "legal right" to do it, if they so choose. Isn't that correct, as per the White House?

How about it, Lamont? (and let's say YOU were living in Birmingham)............would that be ok with YOU?

It wouldn't be with ME............and I'm just an old "redneck" white guy from Idaho.

This mosque thing comes down to DECENCY and RESPECT.

As I said in an early post, it is always WE, who are expected to "bend and respect" the cultures of others------------but it's IMMEDIATELY some kind of CRIME when WE ask the same of them!

We're all "mean-spirited", "racists" and "infidels."

Yes Lamont, I AM a citizen. And by the Grace of God I was born and raised here.

We owe nobody ANYTHING. We never put our country into monetary debt with a few foreign countries. Our GOVERNMENT did. WITHOUT our permission.......and we ARE the "boss" here (if one still believes in our Constitution).

But we DID rid China of the Japanese, and we saved Europe and even the Soviets from the Nazis. Additionally, we have come to EVERYBODY's aid, time and again. Considering all the American BLOOD we've spilled for the rest of this world, (plus RE-BUILDING their countries later), I'd call this "international debt" a WASH!

Who's been there for us?

I have NEVER forgotten what it means to be an American.

I'm an American first. Then a Republican.

I'm an American first. Then whatever my race or gender is.

I'm an American first. Then a Marine.

You know.........most people immigrate here to get AWAY from their country, but then want to start changing US into THEIR culture, and to that I say............

"You are on OUR shores now" This is OUR country. Want it YOUR way?........go to Burger King."

Have a good day, Lamont.............this one's been a dandy!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 5:14 PM

rhe risk for ssi would would be far greater ......think when you were 20 you were not thinking of saving any thing we ran around sayin"im not going to live to 30' and then we went about drinking and acting crazy trying to prove what we said well it didnt work....were here now think....enron,arthur anderson,bernie madoff etc......the companys that pay there ceo millons to manage our money and when they mismanag they leave with golden parachutes and we get to jump out the window without a parachute.....save you are joking ......what do you do with those who cant or wont ....eliminate them????????? you got to get real.....i am sure some people need the 60-70 dollars a month they take ......i dont need carpetbaggers playing with my money in the market....they need to play with there own so when they loose or get stuped they pay......SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU ONLY HEAR WHAT YOU WANT......THE REPUBS WANT REFORM TOO.......BUT THEY ALSO WANT THE BORDER SEALED NOW WELL WE BOTH KNOW AND THEY DO TOO THAT THAT CANT HAPPEN NOW...so lets get to it i have always said secure the borders.....the smoke screen is that those people were used and now that they are costing us they are no longer wanted.......i pass the fields every day and you dont see a black or white face out there......i have talked to the farmers and they have said they cant get a white or black kid to do that work.....now about the prayer rugs islam is a faith not a peoples you cannot as i pointed out before condemm a peoples for the deeds of some simply because they share a religion......if we could you would sure as heck have to look at every religion on the face of the earth......and when we secure the borders that includes canada too.......and if you had payed attention i am very aware of the potntial for terrorist to cross the borders are you aware that more come legally,,,,school,work permites etc not one of 911 camee"illegally".........here is what was said by the president and others .....they have the legal right to build there.......that is what i said i did not say i thought it was right......i did say it is not next door and if you knew how long a block was in NY you would understand a little better......i would say the same for the KKK...... THOSE ARE..... the rights that i wore a uniform for.....that doesnt make it right,decency,respect etc so dont try and turn that into something its not......and i have been to birmigham ......I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE ALSO WHAT IS THAT SOPPOSED TO MEAN???????......get in touch that we dont do anything that is not in our national intrest ......so we didnt have to do anything we didnt want to is a joke......our national security was at risk....ww2.....korea.....vietnam....thats what was determined .....the same was determined for gulf 1 and gulf 2.....now those determination can be questioned but we did not go just to go.......so we can say they owe us they may not feel that way.......i dont question you being and american........i question when someone trys to decide how much is and american and who should be one.......you dont like your allegiance questioned ????????? there is a lot of americans out there who dont want theres questioned also......just because they look different than you..........thats the point.......they would also say they are americams first try to remeber that,,,,,,,,now you asked i forgot to tell you not that i need to qualify me,,,,,,f-100 rf101c...f102 ab...f -105fg....f-106 ab....f-111f..ef-111a....eb-57.....eb-66......f-15c.......iv been around......did some things in namm cant put in a blog.........hey quite being so angry its not good for your health.....besides your getting to old for that it will kill you........have a good day

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 9:36 PM

oh i forgot......corperate america is not my enemy but they are our nemiss ......and you spewing the party line about not knowing whats comming......thats garbage ......besides arnt we always talking about small businees being the engine so which is it???????corperate america works in its own self intrest...there is no national allegiance if there were they wouldnt be outsourcing to the point they are.....we have been losing jobs before bush.....it has just come to crical mass,,,,,,,,,,so now that they have been called on it some are bringing jobs back......the way to keep them is when they outsource we take there tax exemptions,and incentives......right now they are taking those things and still moving the jobs .......wrong... the greed is out of control........and thats why they keep wanting to depress wages.........people cannot live on 5$ and hr......this is not 1960......and if thats what they want us to do then the cost of living has to be reduced and lets start with health care........what say you????? 40 thou for a decent truck that is crazy........median cost of a house 150.000.00 that use to be a mansion and that wasnt that long ago.......anyhow you get the point......we get gouged for gas we are always 30 cents above the national avg,,,,,,,,,why???????? you never get a straight answer from our att general(idaho).....so there all doing the same thisng......so when you point fingers remember the r and the d ..........gotcha......smile

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Sep 5, 2010, at 11:04 PM

Yes, there are millions out there who WON'T save. But that still doesn't make it OUR job to support them too, does it? Don't we already have families of our own to support?

And the Social Security we have today, belongs to US........because it is WE who have paid into it. It does NOT belong to the government to "dole it out" as THEY see fit.

No doubt, on the high prices of cars & trucks. Nobody makes a vehicle worth FORTY grand........not in MY book, anyway. And this is one of those issues where it IS the fault of the consumer...........

Those who find it necessary to "keep up with the Jones'" at ANY price, are the ones who have created THIS one. I've never owned a new car in my life, nor WILL I ever.

About the prayer rugs on the border.........why are THEY on the border? Are Muslims sneaking into the country because THEY are out of work?

You got kids and grandkids, Lamont? Do they go to malls and ride schoolbuses? If there was ever a wake-up call to SEAL our borders, it was 9/11.

We can debate "immigration reform" from now until doomsday, but the fact remains, with so many different factions wanting to get IN here and start blowing us up...........it WOULD be a novel idea to LOCK THE DOOR.

And you STILL haven't addressed the "amnesty for votes" issue. WHY are the Dems SO INTENT on pushing all these illegals to the FRONT of the line and get 'em legalized----------when those who have come into this country CORRECTLY have had to go through years of proper procedure?

And WHY are they so hot on stopping Arizona from doing their job FOR them?

I say (as do MILLIONS of others), that it is to slip another 14 million "grateful" votes under the door for 2012. Wrong? Then why the push to get them legalized as soon as they can?

I must say I'm surprised at your position on that "KKK" scenario. They are as much a TERRORIST group as Al-Queda. In that same situation, I know a BUNCH of us who would never let them so much as get the concrete poured.

If that's "hate and anger"..............so be it.

I don't hold any barriers against those who "look" different than I do. There's an awful lot of white people in this country I can't stand, either, starting with Biden & Pelosi.

But when it reaches the point where foreigners don't have to respect OUR culture but we have to respect THEIRS.................when OUR kids can't dress patriotically but THEIRS CAN..........when THEY can wave flags and protest in the streets and it's "freedom of expression"------------but if WE march, we're all a bunch of hateful Nazi racists"...........

It's time to draw the line, Lamont. This no longer comes under the heading of "fair & balanced."

And this is the "degree"----if you will----of "AMERICANISM" I'm talking about.

Our fathers and forefather paid a high price for what we have today, and too much blood has been spilled to just GIVE IT AWAY----let everybody come in here, take advantage of us, and make up their own rules in their quest to take us over.

Those who side AGAINST their own people, are NOT Americans in my book. Just being BORN here, doesn't make one an American either-------it has to come from the heart as well. I am grateful to has been born here, but my being an American has nothing to do with geography.

One of two graves I specifically went to Arlington to see, was Jou Louis.'

Joe Louis Barrow was the Heavyweight Champion of the World from 1937 to 1949, and is revered by many (including myself) as the best who ever entered the ring.

Joe fought everybody, ducked nobody, knocked out opponent after opponent. He never bragged on himself, and was adored by fans from age 8 to 108. Joe served in the Army during World War II and didn't wait to be drafted. They had him wear a uniform, make USO appearances and still defend his crown. He was a Technical Sergeant when he got out, and it is marked as such on his headstone today.

Joe Louis was a Champion both IN and OUT of the ring. Joe Louis was an American.

What the IRS did to him was SHAMEFUL. While on active duty, he fought two particular bouts, in which he DONATED his entire purse to the Army Relief Fund...........and the other to the Navy Relief Fund. Years later, the IRS came onto him for "back-taxes" on those bouts. Louis, doing what HE could to contribute to the war effort, had merely donated that money to two very worthy charities.

But the IRS being the IRS..........said that as far as THEY were concerned, he had been PAID for those two fights, and if he wanted to give the money to charity, that was HIS business, but he STILL owed the tax money.

Because they waited until interest and penalties had stacked up, (typical for THEM), he was way behind by then, and even had to come back from retirement later to try to pay it off. They seized almost everything he had, including the $667.00 his mother left him upon her death.

He finished his life working at a Las Vegas casino as a door greeter while those filthy bums from Austin and Fresno continued to pursue him. Finally, Frank Sinatra (a huge "Louis Fan") threw a big benefit in Las Vegas and they got the IRS out of his life. Sinatra also paid for the elaborate headstone at Arlington, after Joe passed away.

Throughout it all, though, Joe Louis never lost his dignity, he loved people, he loved kids, and while he wasn't overly fond of the Treasury Dept, he loved this country.

He was never involved in public scandles, never blamed every else if he happened to lose a fight, loved kids, and emerged above the rubble, in-spite of all the crap he'd had to deal with.

Joe Louis was truly what an American is.........in Bazookaman's book.........and in the books of a multitude of generations.

For the record............I walked right PAST the lane to the right, where JFK's grave is. Never bothered to walk down there to see it. Didn't care.

I'd come there to see Joe Louis' grave...........and the grave of Ira Hayes-----a Pima Indian/World War II Marine, who was one of the 6 who raised the flag atop Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima.

Sad story there, as well.

This is my country too, Lamont. And I don't want it given away out from under me by a bunch of elected thieves.

It is nice to see that Butch Otter (who I consider VERY CLOSE to "RINO" status), finally got HIS butt off the "fence" and has thrown in with Arizona, as the number of supporting states continues to rise------------pretty soon, Holder's gonna run out of paper for all these lawsuits of his!

And the count today is fifty-seven.

Lamont.........you have a good day, man!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Mon, Sep 6, 2010, at 8:25 AM

front of the line???????? no what was said was that there should be a path to citezenship there is no proposal for them to move to the front of the line........at least not one iv heard........so again i think thats a matter of perception......and yes muslims are comming across like everyone else the easiest way they can........and i mean everyone else...asians,serbs,you name it........that doesnt mean there all comming to attack us....... you hate to much........the KKK I SAID THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORG THAT NO ONE SCREAMS ABOUT WHO STILL EXIST TODAY........BUT IF THEY ARE CITZENS OF THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE THE MONEY AND THE PROPERTY THEY CAN BUILD WERE THEY WANT.....LEGALLY THEY HAVE THE RIGHT.....THAT DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT......THATS WHAT I SWORE TO UPHOLD.....AND WOULD TO THIS DAY.......THE JOE LOUIS STORY IS WELL KNOWN IT IS CITED BY EVERY CIVIL PERSON WHO KNOWS IT.........what is not well known is that the irs did not do the same to other celebs who did the exact same thing but were lesser known.........what a lot of us feel was it was and attempt to marginalize a black hero but they didnt succed........let me tell you something a lot of us will not loose our dignity and there have been very vicous things done to us to attempt that to happen.....you have no idea you have only scratch the surface.......i could tell you things that have happened to me that would never happen to you and some of those things still happen.......you dont walk in a minoritys shoes so you have no idea how some of the things you say come across.......just and examle......archie bunker by no means was a hero to us......he symbolized the things that were happening to us and the attitude that prevailed about it.....and he still does........the other reason I DONT FEAR THE kkk i can buy guns and bombs too.....i am not MLK you smack me I will smack you back......and not tomorrow.........answer the question of what are you going to do with the people who dont save???????? AND WHY DO YOU TRUST CORPERATE AMERICA TO INVEST YOUR MONEY,AND WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE SENATOR WHO WANTS TO CUT YOU AFF?????? i want to know what you think of that...........have a great day

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Sep 6, 2010, at 10:17 AM

What do I think of that Senator?..........I think he needs to be bounced OUT of office like the REST of them.

Clean sweep........All of 'em!

If you immediately grant amnesty, it DOES move them to the "front of the line," as long as the honest ones are still in the normal process of becoming citizens. They are doing it the RIGHT way........learning our language, customs. etc. Doing the paperwork, waiting the time---------then all of a sudden these LAW-BREAKERS are LEGALIZED right in front of them!

THAT isn't cutting into the FRONT of the line? Really?

"Asians, Serbs, etc".......No........that doesn't mean they're ALL sneaking over the line to attack us............but it only takes one or two, to kill 30 or 40.

We need to SEAL the borders, not hammer our own people for trying to protect themselves.

I never said Archie was a "hero" to anybody, and I DID say that his "bigot" role was wrong, did I not?

But there were a lot of OTHER things he said politically in his debates with the "meathead" that we HAVE seen happen.

The people who don't save will have to start learning to save. I have to put something aside for a rainy day and so do you. Do you remember the story of the grasshopper and the ants?

Now.........for the 4th or 5th time, YOU answer MY question please...............why the Dem push to grant all this amnesty to 14 million+ illegals. A great many of us say it's for VOTING REGISTRATION prior to 2012. What say YOU?

Hey...........I meant to tell you.........that's a VERY GOOD airplane resume you have.........and a darned better advantage on the SKT than I had with 14 years of Aardvark and a year of A-10.

At least 30% of that test was "Phantom-friendly" as I recall. Career-wise, where promotional opportunities are concerned, that actually DID put me in a "minority", if you really think about it. With your F-4 experience, you had a better shot than I did, at WAPS time, when ya get right down to it.

Where did you work the F-111-F? Here, or at Lakenheath?

We had F-106's at McChord when I was there in 71-72. Where did you work THOSE?

Man, I'm envious. You got to work on a LOT of different airplanes...........I thought I was gonna have to DIE before they'd let me off the 111!

No, while I DID grow up poor in a predominately black neighborhood, I have never walked in a black man's shoes. The boots I DID walk in, saw a lot of rice paddies though, and were caked with Agent Orange that was dropped on us at Khe Sanh, which I've been fighting cancer from these past 8 years. Do I get to count THAT as a "bum deal?"

This world ain't been a bed of roses for a lot of us white boys, either.

We've all had our share of crap. Different flavor at times, maybe, but crap all the same.

Personally, I think Joe Louis was used by the IRS as an example to everybody else. If they would be willing to destroy a national idol...........they would be willing to come after the "LITTLE GUY" on the street as well. And Joe Louis was a hero to MOST Americans, regardless of color.

Make an example..........put fear into the rest.............that's the IRS motto.

Boot Camp, San Diego, 1966. Day # 2, the biggest guy in the platoon gets picked on, pushed around, his mother insulted, pushed into finally taking a swing at the D.I. A half minute later when he is trying to get back up..........the REST of us "tough guys" are quivering, because if the "big guy" never had a chance, neither would any of US if we got out of line. Rule is established.

Same principle.

If they'd take down the "Brown Bomber", they'd SQUASH some "Bazookaman" dude like a bug!

I think that's the message they wanted the people to see.

I know you don't fear the KKK, anymore than I fear the terrorists...........I shoot back too, and when the time comes, I'll most likely be one of those who OPEN fire to begin with.

But even as a white guy, if I lived in Birmingham, I'd do everything I could to prevent the KKK from building anything near that church. Because it ISN'T right, isn't decent and is flat-out INSULTING. I'd fight those creeps in a MINUTE, over something like that!

And I just think the Muslims should give the American people that same consideration. There is too much other real estate to be had......they don't HAVE to build this thing near ground zero. I think this is a "test case" of some kind...........foot-in-the-door to a big political statement. Nothing else. And Mosque-building HAS been accomplished in the past, as "signs of conquest."

At any rate, it's creating a lot of dissention, and if they are actually the "peace-seeking" religion they claim to be, they'd PROVE it by building it somewhere else.

This is totally unnecessary.

You know Lamont, Socialism/Communism---puts state and government ahead of all else. It is an oppressive form of government. The "common man" is little more than expendable garbage.

It's the sad and shameful truth, but the black folks DO know a lot more about being oppressed than any white man in American does. The black man has ALSO come a long way and has made considerable progress, since those early days, and there's still a little more road to travel.

I would think the blacks would want to JOIN with the Tea Party movement, if for no other reason, than to KEEP that kind of government dominance from ever happening again.

Left unchecked, a rogue government will take from YOU as quickly as it will take from ME.

The Tea Parties are not racial-driven. Obama is black, but is only one man. The majority of these crooks are white and the tea parties are moving to kick THEM out. I only mention this because the leftwing loons are still beating that old chant, that "It's all about having a black president."

No it isn't. It's about the selling out of America by all of these crooks back there. People are tired of being lied to, taken for fools, and taken for granted.

And a bunch of these thieves are going to pay with their jobs.

Know what Nancy Pelosi wants to do with 55% of your retirement fund (if you have one)?

I'm gonna let YOU dig this one out for yourself so you don't think I'm tinting it.

Gotta go. Supposed to be nice tomorrow, good day for some target work.

Have a good one!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Mon, Sep 6, 2010, at 9:07 PM

Heard a good one on the radio last night..........

RECESSION..........when your friends lose their jobs.

DEPRESSION........when you lose YOURS.

RECOVERY..........when Congress loses THEIRS.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Tue, Sep 7, 2010, at 7:31 AM

Fifty-Six.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Tue, Sep 7, 2010, at 8:14 AM

here is a waste of money for you.....went to F-4 school in 1970 ,,,went back over but i never touched one, hows that?.....right back to old sqd and the F-105fg......the test at times were a joke, i protested the one i took for tech although i got promoted.....if you had never worked on a F-106 there was no way you could pass that test.....so i said so.....i got a 96.....and hadnt worked on the bird in 5yrs....worked f111f here i was phase dock night super pulled the acceptance insp for everyone of them in the af......i go back a ways to say the least..F-106 dover del.....95th FIS..........i thought i answered the amnesty thing i have not heard about any fast track to citizenship.....i have heard about....fine,background cks,proof of employement....things like that......that CANT be accomplished by 2012.....so thats is a smoke screen for politics.....but i have come to know that......sorry i feel it has a LOT to do with the president being black......this sellout didnt just start so why all the garbage now ??????? and we seem to attack everything.....to include his family......and not one reb has said that is wrong......so again as a black man i ask why has this been allowed to happen .........I say because there are people who do not see me as and equal and never will therefore attacking me in any way is ok........that concept may be hard for you to grasp......but if you can lynch a man wearing your countrys uniform you have no limits.....if you can use the N WORD ON A PLANE RIDE FOR 4 HRS with a soldier sitting in the row in front of you please tell me what i should think( this happened to me)....what i am saying for some. the tea party is ok i personally dont think so. there posters and rehetoric is not what i would call inclusive......but thats me.....i will not be used...through all these conversations i have said wrong is wrong...... other things i usaually can figure out what happened.......when the tea party sees me as a viable part of the solution and not the problem then maybe i will look at them in a different light.......belive it or not iI AM A PATRIOT AND PROUD OF IT.....but i also paid my dues ........keep up the good fight........agent orange our nemiss......and he wants to cut us off......he only tried to kill us.......smile.......when i get ready....see ya

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Sep 7, 2010, at 7:43 PM

You were in the Air Force well ahead of me. I enlisted in 1971, after having been out of the Marine Corps since '69.

By the time I tested for tech, there was no shortage of Phantom questions, because at that time, it WAS "the Air Force fighter." Sort of like with your F-106----------if ya never worked them, you were screwed. Same for ME with the Phantom.

I crewed "F" model "370" in Blue Section at Lakenheath, 1979-1982.

Very true, this "sellout" has been going on for a little while now, with these multi-termed Congressmen. So......"Why all the garbage now?"

My guess would be 3 reasons:

1. The people have finally had enough of "business as usual."

2. Obama was gonna "Change" all this "business as usual" crap. "Transparency".... A lot of folks bought into that.

3. The unread bills, backdoor deals, immigration, the coddling of terrorists, this mosque business, more taxes, jobs contining to go away, etc.

People are fed up, and while a lot of this would probably have happened anyway under this crooked Capitol Hill bunch, Obama happens to be the president at the moment , and that's always where the spotlight is.

You may notice that nobody is really trained on the president. The immediate focus is getting RID of incubents in D.C. and in the states as well.

Right here in Idaho, Otter's job is no longer safe, Simpson's neither, and we came extremely close to getting rid of Corder, which probably WILL happen next time around. All three of these guys are Republicans. It matters NOT to most of us, what party they're in. It's time to start getting rid of the "rift-raft."

The Town Council is under voter attack right now too............(did you hear their latest scheme? about the "permits for garage sales?").

This is the kind of crap we need to put a stop to.

Also Lamont...............I think the average person doesn't like being lectured on "not living being their means", while their government blows their tax dollars like there's no tomorrow, on USELESS crap!.............then they figure out ways to tax us some more!

People have finally had it. Obama MIGHT have been better off if HILLARY had won, and today SHE would probably be under the heatlamp. Maybe.

The presidency isn't a job I'D want right now, I can tell you THAT!

Attacking a man's family is definitely wrong. But you know, the other side's been all over Palin, even SPYING OVER THE FENCE at HER family.............and the election's been OVER for nearly two years! Talk about harassment?

If somebody was slurring me for 4 hours on an airplane, he'd never have made it to his car after we landed.

Yes, unfortunately, there ARE still some out there who do not see you as equal, but rest assured, Lamont...........the ol' Bazookaman is not one of them. We debate politics and such, but I'm sure we could sit down for coffee somewhere and get along just fine.

One of the guys I play music with is a liberal. We agree on NOTHING politically, but when we're on stage together, it's all left behind and all five of us are a team, working toward the same goal, putting out the best music we can for the audience. This particular dude is a white guy, yet I have a LOT more in common with YOU, than I do with HIM.

Oh, there's no doubt in my mind that you're a patriot. Most men, 18 to 27, do NOT have the guts or fortitude to put on a uniform and serve where they might be killed. Those of us who are willing to sacrifice for our country, are a class unto ourselves, are we not?

As I've said before, up at Khe Sanh, we all lived in holes next to each other, we all wore olive drab, we all bled red, shared the last box of C-Rations and the last canteen of water.

At the re-unions each year, all of us who can make it (black, white, brown----------)are together. We sit, eat, drink together and "swap lies" as they say.

There is a brotherhood in the military (in the Marine Corps anyway), that doesn't seem to manifest itself as well in civilian life. Hopefully, a lot of that is changing, because in the end, it's going to be the US against the government, and since we're ALL being robbed and lied to...........we ALL are eventually gonna need to stand together.

The Tea Parties do not see you as part of any problem.............unless youre a crooked politician. CNN would like you to think that, but I've never been to a rally YET, where anyone has made a racial comment. If you read the protest signs we carry, you won't see anything with the "N" word on it, or anything that even LEANS toward it.

Fact is..........if somebody DID bring a derogatory sign to one of our marches, he'll probably be beaten up on the spot. As things turn desperate, the leftwing loons turn more and more to the "race card", even if they have to "invent" something.

The Tea Party movement has been dedicated to getting RID of the Washington thieves from the onset------------nothing more, nothing less. It has never been about race, or Obama being black. Most who oppose him, oppose his politics, not his color.

The left has worked tirelessly to discredit the Tea party movement in any way it can. They even attempted to insert some of their own troublemakes at a Seattle rally carry racial signs. It was discovered beforehand though, and when word got out that anyone doing that would be dealt with physically, that Seattle rally went peacefully, as they all have.

But as Nancy Pelosi says so often............."whatever it takes."

It's a shame that because they have no other defense for their lies and corruption, they have to try to make a racial issue of it........try to turn people against each other to divert attention off the actual issues.

And all these double standards.

If a bunch of US went down, marched in the streets of Nogales or Mexico City, waving American flags and demanding things--WE'D be jailed or shot! In America, we are expected to "accept it."

You can't build a Christian Church in just any old country you want, but for just opposing the LOCATION of ONE of MANY Muslim mosques----------we're a bunch of RACISTS (that old familiar "playing card. again).

The terrorists can BEHEAD Americans, and it's "part of their culture." When we waterboard a terrorist to get information, our CIA is "torturous and inhumane."

G.I.'s who accidently kill a few civilians during a village firefight are COURT-MARTIALLED, while terrorists tho INTENTIONALLY kill 3,000 civilians in New York are granted MIRANDA rights.

I take my grand daughters to McDonald's in a Volkswagen and get lectured against "extravegance" by The Speaker of the House, who hauls 24 Congressmen and their families to an all-expense-taxpayer-paid trip to Copenhagen, Mariott/Limos, the whole nine yards.

The government can print more money when THEY need it and tax ME for it. A similar "printing press" in MY garage would land ME in Leavenworth.

If I sign a contract without reading it, I'm responsible for it.............if the government signs one, I'm STILL responsible for it.

Heathcare that is "good enough for US", isn't "good enough" for THEM............but we're all supposed to be "in this together."

Fannie, Freddie and GM can get bailed out, but WE CAN'T............(and WE'RE paying for it!)

I've worked hard all my life and live in a 1400 sq ft house. Nancy Pelosi does NOTHING but run her mouth, and now has a 2200 sq ft office at taxpayer expense.

If H&R makes an error on my return, I've got the IRS in my mailbox............Tim Geithner doesn't pay HIS at ALL, and gets to run the Treasury Department.

The government wants us to spend money we don't have to "stimulate" the economy. if we DO, we still have to pay off the credit cards.........................this same government FREELY spends money IT doesn't have........and it is STILL YOU & I who have to pay the tab.

Holder refuses to do HIS job...........and will sue anybody who tries to do it FOR him.

It goes on and on.

Lamont...........I guess I'm just really dense, because none of this makes any sense to me at all, buddy!

I know what it is...............I know what it is................

Remember all those old "Commander's Calls" at Base Theaters everywhere, every month............

I know what it is, Lamont.............I just don't see the "BIG PICTURE!"

Remember THAT one?

Yeah.............that's it!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Sep 8, 2010, at 10:01 AM

palin is not the president........there should be a different level of respect......and the writer who moved in next door to her .....it was assumbed he was there to spy not proven ......did you know he went on tv to refute those charges.........for me palin is a narcessitic,egotistical,carpetbagger......i dont know how people see her as viable .....she doesnt even know how this republic works sorry but that has been shown time and again.......i agree geitner was wrong.....however the tax was about a vehicle allowance......i dont get one but the irs is a pain about milage and servicing etc....you woould think they had bigger things to worry about.......i know small business we have to keep logs etc you would think we were running a fleet....anyhow........i was glad to see you kinda got a handle on some things and showed some understanding......we shall see what shakes out........i will say that the espectation that the president could fix this mess in 18months was unreasonable but well see.......taxe cuts will not solve the problem......it will keep it alive .....saying no to everything wont solve it either........ we need some people who are honest and we dont have any........i for one am tired of the contiouse lies .......they are nonstop from both sides it needs to stop.......they are power crazed its all about the title.......they will do and say anything to remain senators and congressman.......there not there for us.......hey have a great day will see ya

-- Posted by lamont on Thu, Sep 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM

Well, I don't think I've gotten any new "handles" on anything.....I've just been learning to express my thoughts a little more calmly. It's easier on ME too!

I am still in favor of kicking ALL of them out in November, regardless of party, and starting with a clean slate!

Palin is not the president, but they started in on her while she was running----------the thing with her daughter, and even zeroing in on her Downs Syndrome child........you can't get much lower than that.

I don't think the president should get any more respect than anyone else. He puts his pants on, one leg at a time, just like we do. Ronald Reagan was MY president, but I never considered HIM any better than ME. Still don't, and as Nixon found out--------NO ONE is "above the law."

They are people too, nothing more. You respect their office. Even with some of those idiot lieutenants we use to work for..........."With all due respect to your rank, sir............"

The IRS is definitely a pain, and they aren't even LEGAL, (but that belongs in a blog by itself).

No, nobody can realistically expect ONE MAN to fix things in 18 months..........but the Congress he has working for him has had DECADES to do it, and all they do is line their pockets and go to the Bahamas on our dollar. A lot of that is going to start coming to a halt in 53 days.

Heck no, "They ain't there for us."

I think tax cuts WOULD help to stimulate the economy, though.............when folks have a little extra, they DO tend to spend it. When employers have a little extra, they tend to hire.

Didn't you tell me one time that you had a business yourself? You could expand and maybe hire on a little more help too, if Uncle Sam didn't have his hands in YOUR pockets so much.

They need to cut their OWN spending. That's where they need to start.

Being a "party of NO" doesn't really mean a whole lot, when they don't actually have enough votes to STOP anything anyway. All they can do is make noise, and growl. The White House so far, has pretty much been able to push through anything it has wanted to. Until Kennedy's death and Republican replacement of that Senate seat, the GOP couln't even FILIBUSTER anything. The only things that have stood in Obama's way, have been some of his own Democrats, who fight among themselves.

Yep.............they are DEFINITELY power-crazed, and before they figure out a way to discard our Constitution ENTIRELY and turn this government into a MONARCHY, we've got to get RID of them. ALL. Both sides.

Think back to our active duty days...........wouldn't it have been nice to do just ONE HITCH, and then retire with full benfits? Our Senators and Congressmen can!

To MY mind, anyway, these guys aren't anybody "special", and most of them aren't even as GOOD as we are, because they're CROOKS. I think the voters are finally waking up to the fact that these thieves are NOT our "mommy & daddy", and they are sent to Washington to REPRESENT us...........NOT to REGULATE us.

I think they're gonna get a stark reminder in November, about WHO works for WHO in this country.

The first thing the government HAS to do, is STOP the wasteful, massive, unnecessary spending it is famous for.

One of the first things Reagan did, was to put a spending FREEZE on Congress. You can't keep spending what you don't have..........then admonish the voters for "living beyond THEIR means."

"Uncle Ronnie" wasn't real popular for that freeze, among Washington's "frozen chosen", but as he often reminded us, "Government isn't the solution to our problem.........government IS our problem." And he believed in a SMALL government, which is a whole lot more affordable than a large one.

You lead by example...........or few take you seriously. You can't get through to your kids about the hazards of smoking, when you're sitting there puffing on a Camel. If I take my wife out to dinner once in awhile, I don't need some Congressman lecturing me about "American greed and extravegance" while he's yachting in the Carribean on the weekends and getting $400.00 haircuts on our tax money.

Know what I mean?

Gotta leave here in about an hour, for the V.A. I'm the first one in today with my doctor, so I SHOULD find a place to park up there today, without having to run all over the place!

See ya later, Bro.........hey, let's get together for a little java one of these days.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Sep 10, 2010, at 5:44 AM

Lamont.........maybe a tad bit off subject, but if somebody decided to publicly burn a BIBLE, do you think the media would give it much attention? Would anyone notable speak out against it?

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Sep 12, 2010, at 6:47 AM

no......the notables would speak because they would feel they had to......the media knew this story would sell so they packaged it and sold it.......they had to know because of what happened before with the cartoon.....thats what i mean when i say look at all of it from different angles.....its not the quran,the people.or the preacher in this case its the media........and the need to make money........our guys get killed ......they say oh well cost of doing business........and im saying it nice.....what i feel is beyond desribing here......see ya

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Sep 12, 2010, at 7:07 PM

Bazook

The Republicans need your money

http://www.firepelosibus.com/home.aspx

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 11:25 AM

Ha-Ha.........MsMarylin...the Republicans need to be bounced out right along with the Democrats in November!

As for the nutcase Pelosi..........if the GOP takes the House back (which is looking very good right now)............she's OUT as Speaker anyway.

Lamont, I know exactly where you're coming from on the media, and one of these days, we'll have to get together for coffee and "bat the breeze" awhile..........just one old G.I. to another. Ya up for that?

-- Posted by bazookaman on Mon, Sep 13, 2010, at 12:44 PM


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