There are no good options

Posted Wednesday, June 25, 2014, at 8:15 AM
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  • Personally, I found most of your comments on this subject to be completely off base. In the first part of your post, you describe US service people, in effect, as soldiers just following orders. How well did that line work at Nuremburg? I believe that if a national policy is flawed, it is every citizen and/or soldiers' duty to question it and to vote or act against that policy. I wonder how things would have turned out if George Washington, a British colonial soldier, had just followed the policy of the British Crown.

    After a quick study of human history, it is very hard for me to say whether there has ever been a properly ended war. For example, the US led peace effort after World War I ended horribly. The Wilson Plan failed and the Treaty of Versailles set up World War II. Then "properly ended" World War II led directly to the Korean War, just five years later, and cost the lives of 54,260 US soldiers. The peace of WWII also directly led to the Vietnam War, which cost the lives of 58,209 US soldiers. There has never been a good war or a properly ended war, these types of statements are akin to saying there are good forms of necrotizing fasciitis, the flesh-eating bacteria.

    I also take issue with you referring to the situation in Iraq with terms like ratholes of corruption and litter box. If the Iraqis are corrupt, they are just being good, democratic capitalists. It is like the old anti-drug commercial where the drug-addicted kid tells his worried father, "I learned this from watching you dad." I believe your comments demonstrate, in a very small way, the real problem with our involvement in Iraq. Most Americans, including those in power, do not enjoy even the most basic understanding of the complex geo-political, social, religious, and economic realities of the Middle East. The average American also sees the Middle East as a barbaric, backwards wasteland. You wrote that we need to, "develop the political skill and understanding," to fix Iraq, yet, you refer to one of the oldest and richest cultures in the world as existing within a litter box. I have seen the haunts you frequent Mr. Everitt and they leave much to be desired in their own right. You know, some might consider Mountain Hole to be a litter box, or a filthy cow pasture if the wind is blowing up from Simplot in the right direction.

    I have included a few links that contain information about Iraq for anyone interested.

    Embassy of the Republic of Iraq at This site contains useful information on the current government of Iraq, its foreign policy, Iraq history, and Iraqi arts and culture.

    Iraqi+American Reconciliation Project at This site promotes reconciliation and communication between the people of Iraq and the US. It also contains information on Iraqi history, art, and culture.

    -- Posted by S.Smith on Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 10:59 AM
  • Although I disagree with some of Kelly's points, and think that he finds it too easy to sum up other's failings like if he was in charge things would be running smoothly ....

    I do need to say S.Smith your summation of history and causality is very simplified, and still extremely inaccurate in so many ways.

    -- Posted by Sam_1776 on Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 1:30 PM
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