Health care gives life -- to GOP

I'm not sure that we can really equate a web site with issues with Bush and Cheney tricking us into a war.

By 2013 we may be asking if Obamacare has some problems, why aren't Republicans making positive suggestions for improvement? We may ask why didn't the ACA get the funding needed to implement it well?

The Republicans may think that they have new life in pointing out the problems with Obamacare but after awhile someone will figure out that we don't want to go back to people not being able to get insurance.

SURE YOUR RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!

Here is an explanation of what led to the government shutdown CoolBreeze. Note the reference below to "right wing elements of the Republican Party -- often referred to as the Tea Party" and their part in the shutdown.

"The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) continues to be very controversial for a range of reasons. After failing to block passage of the original act in 2010, failing to pass countless repeals from 2010 -- 2013, losing a Supreme Court case in 2012, and failing to win the 2012 U.S. Presidential Election that might have lead to repeal of that act, right wing elements of the Republican Party -- often referred to as the Tea Party -- within the U.S. House of Representatives attached a provision to a spending bill that required eliminating funding for the implementation of the PPACA in order to fund the rest of the U.S. Federal Government.

That bill was sent to the U.S. Senate. The Senate then stripped out the provisions relating to defunding the PPACA, and sent it back to the House. The House then sent back a version of the bill that delayed implementation of the Act for one year, and the Senate tabled the measure and didn't even take it up for consideration.

Since the U.S. Congress has not passed law to appropriate any funds past September 30, 2013, the Federal Government has "shut down." I put "shut down" in quotes, since the U.S. Armed Forces are still getting paid and over a million non-Postal* employees are still being requested to work (with a risk of delayed pay if this impasse isn't resolved quickly)."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/10/03/why-did-the-u-s-government-shut-dow...

I think that you are mistaken that Kelly is a "some kind of "special stupid" to believe the Tea Party was responsible for the government shutdown".

Lie, baby, lie CoolBreeze.

PARTISAN HACK......SPECIAL STUPID......I GUESS I CAN ADD THAT TO THE NAME CALLING.......BOOK.I wonder is there anyone out there on the right that can have a conversation without the name calling book????????? JUST WONDERING...!!!!!!!

On the subject of this blog, by the 2014 elections all of the hype, distortions and outright lies about Obamacare won't matter. The web site will be working well.

The ACA will be implemented. People will find that for the most part they are better off, or unaffected by the law. It won't matter what they are told. It will matter what they personally experience.

In the 2013 elections, we seem to be getting a preview of things to come. Moderates are the swing vote, not the Republican voters posing as Libertarians but the moderates.

I can live with moderates being the swing vote. I think that is a good thing.

COOLBREEZE I DONT START CONVERSATIONS CALLING PEOPLE NAMES........YOU CALL ME ONE I WILL COME BACK AT YOU.yOU DONT LIKE THE FACT that if you make a racist comment I will call you on it that's to bad.I USAUALLY SAY THAT IS A RACIST COMMENT if you interpret that as I am calling a person a racist that is your business.IF I CALL A PERSON A RACIST THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WILL SAY.example."you are a racist" THAT IS WHAT I WILL SAY.The same goes for bigot,a bigoted comment is a bigoted comment,race baiting is bigotry and you didn't have a problem with it, so what is your problem now??? or does only certain people get to do that with your sanction??????

Only the right starts off here with name calling and then a statement.ZOOK SAID IT BEST WHEN THAT HAPPENS I TUNE OUT AND WHATEVER IS SAID AFTER THAT CAN GO IN THE GARBAGE CAN.THAT IS THE SAME WAY I feel SO WHEN YOU NAME CALL IN THE FIRST 2 SENTENCES YOU MAY AS WELL STOP WRITTING.I hope that clarify's it for you coolbreeze.

I have to agree SAM the moderates will be the ones I feel both party's are shooting themselves in the head.

I do feel the health law will be a good thing,I HAD HOPED THAT THE RIGHT WOULD HELP TO FIX IT.sO FAR THERE DO OR DIE IS NOT WORKING.I feel the more people that inquire and evaluate there personal situation the more palatable it will be.The cost of medical care has got to change period,the out of pocket even with insurance is crazy.I don't feel good about people making tons of money on others misfortunes.Fair treatment I can deal with, gouging is flat out wrong.IF you havn't been to a hospital you have no idea,it is worth the research and compare the cost in other country's.OH yes try and remember we trained those forgien doctors............later

The reason Health Care is so high in our Country is because those that have insurance are picking up the tab for those who do not. That's why our premiums are going up and up. Money has to come from some where to treat those that have no health Insurance Coverage.

Lamont, I was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, and have had chemo, radiation, and three surgeries, the last which almost killed me. I'm fine now.

When people tell me that they can't afford to have insurance, I tell them that if they don't have insurance they can't afford to get sick.

I agree with you MsMarylin.

YOU hit the nail on the head SAM I GOT THE FIRST PART OF MY BILL FOR SURGERY,CHEMO AND RADIATION AND IM TELLING YOU IF I DIDNT HAVE WHAT I HAVE I WOULD BE DEAD.Because of the previous cancer I wouldn't be able to get insurance .....pre existing condition.I would lose house and everything I know exactly what you mean.

I PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO THINK WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE WORLD.Not for the working man only for the rich and if they don't believe that they should get sick like you and I.my BILL FOR THE FIRST HALF WAS $ 101.000.00 HAVN'T GOT THE 2ND HALF YET.fOR SOME FOLKS THAT MAY BE CHUMP CHANGE FOR YOU AND I THAT'S OUR LIVES.

yOU ARE RIGHT MS M but some folks don't see that, it's called out of sight out of mind.The state knows it ......when I was in business with employee's my workers comp fluctuated based on how many claims were made that year sometimes refund and sometimes the premimum went up the following year.I sincerely believe the are some who operate from a point of.......I DONT BELIEVE YOU BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER NOT FACE THAT TRUTH.

WE need THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT,WE NEED IT BAD.SO CONGRESS FIX IT !!!!!!!! AND LETS GET ON WITH IT.......There aint no start over you didn't do anything in the previous 50 yrs, you don't have a plan now and you really don't want healthcare for the middle class you would rather we subsidize the rich...........later

You seem to be panicking CoolBreeze. Could it be that as the law fully rolls out people will start to see that it wasn't even close to what the Tea Party zealots have wanted us to believe?

Lamont may read your histrionic posts as I do to correct the lies that you keep trying to spread.

The ACA is more affordable for more comprehensive coverage.I see nothing wrong with that,and no one size does not fit all.I for one do not like paying for the super exspensive emergency room treatment that the uninsured receive.

coolbreeze just because you have included minority's doesn't mean you respect them IE; YOUR CONFEDERATE FLAG WAVING CONSTITUENTS.I don't have anything against the tea party except you talk inclusion but practice paternalizism.I also don't care what you post but when it is bigoted in my mind I will say so.The constitution is a great document however it is not totally suited for the 21st century and it is not perfect, that is why we have the supreme court.I don't know how the tea party got in this but that's ok, Hannity likes to change the subject also when he has nothing relevant to say that is on subject.NICE TRY COOLBREEZE I AM NOT GOING THERE .......WHY???? because you misinterpret or twist everything said,it's not worth my time.IT'S THE SAME AS BEING CALLED A LIAR BY SOMEONE WHO DOESNT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT BUT INSISTS HE DOES.........APOLOGY .......NO.....ILL BE DARNED IF I APOLOGIZE TO THAT LIBERAL. DONT TELL ME ABOUT MARGINALIZE,MINIMIZE OR DROWN OUT YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING............ENOUGH ALREADY.

Had the convention, under all these impressions, and in the midst of all these considerations, instead of exercising a manly confidence in their country, by whose confidence they had been so peculiarly distinguished, and of pointing out a system capable, in their judgment, of securing its happiness, taken the cold and sullen resolution of disappointing its ardent hopes, of sacrificing substance to forms, of committing the dearest interests of their country to the uncertainties of delay and the hazard of events, let me ask the man who can raise his mind to one elevated conception, who can awaken in his bosom one patriotic emotion, what judgment ought to have been pronounced by the impartial world, by the friends of mankind, by every virtuous citizen, on the conduct and character of this assembly? "

James Madison - Federalist No. 40 - The Powers of the Convention to Form a Mixed Government Examined and Sustained

My support of the Republican Party has diminished because they have "...taken the cold and sullen resolution of disappointing its (our country's) ardent hopes, of sacrificing substance to forms, of committing the dearest interests of their country to the uncertainties of delay and the hazard of events...".

On delay, "...half of all filibusters waged against nominations in our country's history have been waged under President Obama. And of the 23 district court nominees that have been filibustered in U.S. History, 20 of them have been Obama nominees."

Well said Dave.

CoolBreeze, speaking of proof reading, you seem to have mixed up the meaning of the words infer and imply when you said to lamont "so please stop inferring that you do". It's a common error but you may want to look up both words for next time.

We have 6,thousand dead and 40 thou wounded and maimed about 3 trillion spent and what do we have to show for it????? a COUNTRY GOING RIGHT BACK TO WHAT IT DID BEFORE WE DID WHAT WE DID.YES I SCREAMED, FOR ME JUST ANOTHER VIETNAM.

WHY AM I BIGOTED AGAINST THE TEA PARTY? BECAUSE I SAY THEY ARE PATERNALISTIC,THEY ARE OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT BE WAVING CONFEDERATE FLAGS IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.tHERE MEMBERS WOULD NOT REFER TO THE OBAMA CHILDREN AS PICKENNEY'S I COULD GO ON BUT WHY YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS.iT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

I NEVER TOLD YOU I was happy with the president as a matter of record I AM NOT,,,,,,,,,THE DIFFERENCE IS I DONT HAVE TO NAME CALL HIM TO SAY THAT,I DONT HAVE TO ,DENERGRATE HIS WIFE OR HIS CHILDREN ONLY COWARDS DO THAT WERE I COME FROM.

LIKE it or not I respect the office and the person that's there because I understand what it takes to get there and what it takes to be there,It is not a sacrifice to be taken lightly.That is my feelings

DAVE good to see you here....YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN TO ME,not ONE word about how Bush packed the supreme court.POINT BEING THOSE POSITION SHOULD BE FILLED BY THE QUALIFICATIONS both sides are busy trying to change America through the courts and that is not what should be happening.ALL three nominee's have been given a green light by the bar assoc.There is no reason to filibuster these choices's.There has been more nominations turned back on OBAMA then any president in modern history.WHAT THIS DOES IS UNDERMINE GOVERNING.....HE CANT PUT HIS TEAM IN PLACE BUT WE WANT THE JOB DONE.tHAT IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY WANTS...UNDERMINE.....AND THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FROM THE BEGINNING.HECK they filibustered SEC HAGEL(R) Because OBAMA CHOSE HIM.it's GARBAGE........fired before your hired I know about that, I have lived it.

COOLBREEZE right is right wrong is wrong,ZOOK IS THE MOST HARDLINE TEA PARTIER OUT THERE AND THERE WERE THINGS WE AGREED ON.. YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT CRANKS MY CRANK SO QUITE ASSUMING I TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE...ASK

DONT stay away DAVE kinda miss ya.......later

Hi lamont. Glad to see you're feeling well and that you're still bringin' it!

DOING WELL DAVE......YOU DONT WIN WITH CANCER YOU DRAW OR YOU LOSS........SO I AM GOING WITH WHAT MY HIGHER POWER GIVES ME.....I want to see all my grans graduate from college after that I don't care.(smile) Anyhow it was a battle and still is in a way but you know you just have to keep getting after it. So I am back doing what I DO from music to remodeling the house and back.

I hope you have been well and I DO miss some of the old hands. BUt I KEEP ON KEEPING ON.i hope you are doing the same...........take care later

Here is a great blog on what to tell your family members at Thanksgiving about the ACA so that, for example, Grandpa doesn't think anymore that he is going to be put on a death panel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/25/a-guide-to-surviving-...

I keep a copy of the ACA on my cell phone. It has helped answer a few questions my coworkers had, in addition to debunking the claims made in some a few chain emails.

There is nothing like a viral e-mail that spreads like a virus to irresponsible web sites to spread a false claim.

Ironically the people spreading the false claims feel that they are more moral than the people trying to keep to the truth.