Refuse to succumb to fear

Posted Wednesday, April 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM
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    And I like how he put " Perhaps a right-wing nut (or left wing, but that's less likely currently)"

    when most of the shooters lately are registered democrates.

    -- Posted by shockwave on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 11:16 AM
  • Hopefully this is one that we all can agree on, whoever is behind this is a coward and should be tracked down dealt with. I could think of a few creative punishments that would befit an act such as this but I'll save those for after he/she/they are caught.

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 1:19 PM
  • YOUR WIFE......TREVOR......EXSCUSES EXSCUSES.....HELLO !!!!!!!!!!! GIVE credit were credit is due.... Kelley you got it 99% right I don't care what anyone says.....smile......later

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 1:27 PM
  • Free Thinker I think most people look at terrorism as a civilian attack. That was an attack on our military Yes he was definetly a terrorist in the making. And we're actually under attack everyday don't forget "cyber" attacks happen oh about 100 times a day. A cyber attack has shown to be way more crippling to an entire country than anything. So if people spent all day talking about threats we wouldn't get much done.

    -- Posted by betteyourwrong on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 4:22 PM
  • Freethinker I guess you misunderstood. I agree with you. I was simply saying why some can be led to believe it wasn't a terrorist attack. What's sad is that guy had been under the radar and it could have been prevented. I also have quite a bit more than a glimmer of decency but thank you for pointing that out. Good day.

    -- Posted by betteyourwrong on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 5:36 PM
  • Correction "on" the radar.

    -- Posted by betteyourwrong on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 5:52 PM
  • THE major at FT HOOD was on the radar,somebody transfered the problem .The army doesn't want to tag somebody of flag rank about that person.His fellow soldiers had turned him in for his rehetoric,other officers ,somebody didn't want to do the right thing because he was and officer ,ILL BET if he was enlisted he would have been out or incarcerated.Does that change the fact that he committed a terrorist attack he also commited what could be considered a work place act in this case there one in the same.......SO IN SHORT TAKE YOUR PICK.......just a right wing talking point BUT they don't bring up that he was ID.......again tell the whole tale.

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Apr 17, 2013, at 7:51 PM
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    Patrick, in Newtown the guns got the majority of the blame and continue too get the majority of the blame for two reasons.

    1. Both Adam Lanza and his mother are both dead and you can't hold a dead person responsiable, what fun is there in yelling at a dead person.

    2. Gun aggenda, the liberals are using this event to push their socialist aggenda. Yes they are parading the parents of the murdered children around like show pony's, using thier pain to push for the disarming of America.

    I feel for the parents but the new gun laws passed (NON OF THEM) or the ones proposed would have changed anything. Adam broke 46 laws does anyone (in their right mind) really think 1 more would have made a difference. Those that do are either stupid or have an aggenda to destroy America.

    Most people forget about Timothy McVae who killed more people and more kids with a Ryder truck, fertilzer, and fuel.

    -- Posted by Trouble2011 on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 8:39 AM
  • The argument about the laws and which will stop what.JUST sitting and listening I get the impression that some here feel it is better to do nothing and therefor let them bomb.We WILL NEVER FOIL EVERY ATTEMPT BUT WE CAN TRY.

    The need to have a gun and solve our problems with them is ingrained in the fabric of our society.YOU CAN SEE IT on tv the westerns,the cop shows,or the domestic shows.We as a society are saying this is the way to go.WE don't want to admit that but that is what we are saying.When we do something simply because we can there is no skin in the game we don't really care we are keeping up with the jones,WE are buying and owning guns because we feel he'S got one I BETTER GET ONE.Then WE MAKES OUR SELVES FEEL GOOD WITH THE CONSTITUTION.For those who really hunt and sport shot great for those who say for protection I say garbage.IT seems that you would rather possible shot and innocent than back away from something.Now I am not saying all are like that but it would appear we have our share right here.

    NOW I have a question......what gives someone the right to tell us here who is right minded and who is not??? How insulting can you get and the snide remark of you showed a little decency.Exscuse me just who do you think you are.BECAUSE YOUR ATTEMPT TO BULLY THE BLOG DIDN'T WORK YOUR WHINNING LIKE THE KEWPIE DOLL YOU WANT SOMEONE TO GO PLAY WITH YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE.yOU got kicked off once, you were not missed and the conversations actualy got civil and constructive.NOBODY missed the name calling.

    No body is pushing the parents around,why do we presume they cant be doing this on there own,and I am sure with the number of them they are not all liberals.This whole thing smells, this was not about enacting at this point it was ABOUT BRINGING A BILL TO THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION, so from the conservative side we don't even want to discuss it.THAT is our democracy now? THE FILIBUSTER RULES?? HOW pathetic is that?? our CITIZENS CANT EVEN GET A DISCUSSION OF WHAT THEY SEE AS A PROBLEM FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.IT would not have been a waste of time.I watch the senate almost every day for a little while and some of the things they whole hearings on and discuss are less worthy in my opinion than this subject.And a lot of the questions are just to keep there face on TV because they are just plain stupid.And that is both sides.They have taken the nation from being about us to being about them.MOST need to go and we should stop paying them.The president took a pay cut I didn't hear not one of them step up.Either side.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 11:19 AM
  • Take a good look at this blog and all of the comments....is it any wonder that our politicians can't agree on anything. It's all finger pointing and name calling, throw in some partisan politics and you've got America today. If we can't have an honest discussion how can we expect our elected officials to do anything different. It's easy to sit behind a computer screen and issue snide comments and act holier than thou.

    The only silver lining in yesterday's vote was that there was some cross the isle votes that took place from both sides. Maybe, if we can take a step back and remove some of the emotion from the issue, them just maybe we can have an honest discussion on how to prevent or at least reduce the kind of violence that we saw at Newton and Aurora. The first thing we need to do is analyze ALL of the issues involved. Gun control is only one possible aspect of a much bigger problem. And background checks are a part of that. We already have a background check system in place. Can that system be improved...yes. Should that be our primary focus...in my opinion...no. We need to take a long hard look at mental health issues and then determine how we can include that in the background check system. There are many aspects that need to be addressed if we are serious about reducing violence in our society and I've only mentioned a couple but the rhetoric and name calling is a waste of time.

    When someone wants to get serious I for one am ready to have the discussion.

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 12:16 PM
  • TUNDRA RAT......THERE could be a good discussion however there are folks who keep repeating the same logic over and over again.I for one don't want there guns but I do want some responsibility about them ,law abiding or not.This is not the 1700"S or the wild west.

    Nobody is blaming gun owners,there is no conspiracy,nobody wants to take guns from law abiding citizens.But if that is what some want to believe there will never be a discussion.IT sure is easy to justify killing your own,or at least it appears that way.

    Havn't had a use for a weapon since namm but I don't begrudge anyone there's.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM
  • I got pulled away for a bit. I think we have far too many wing nuts on both sides. I agree with Lamont we need to clean house I've heard Zook advocating the same thing.

    Trevor you're exactly right. we're fractured. And I hate to say this but it will probably take another 9/11 to change that. I didn't vote for Obama in either election but after the first election I had hope that he would work to close the divide but that hasn't happened. Instead he worked with Democrats to force through their agendas. In any situation where there is a winner and loser it is incumbent on the winner to try to smooth things over.

    On the topic of gun control. Patrick you are right on all three points. But with the Diane Fiensteins and Michael Bloombergs on the left trying to grab all they can get do you understand why they feel that way?

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 3:46 PM
  • Trevor

    I hope they start closing on this person/s but I also want them to take as much time as they need and get it right.

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 3:50 PM
  • FREE THINKER......WHY DONT YOU TRY NOT USING THINGS LIKE DOGS ETC TO DESCRIBE THINGS OR PEOPLE YOU DONT LIKE.JUDGING SOMEONES DECENCY AS COMPARED TO WHAT, THE JUDGER? IT MIGHT HELP THE DISCOURSE not to do those things.

    I DONT think I can say it plainer I don't care about your guns.

    I CARED ABOUT THE PROCEDURE,they in my opinion deserved to HEAR THE DEBATE GIVEN THE cercumstances.WOULD NOT HAVE HURT A THING.wHEN I compare what else is being discussed on capital hill.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 5:04 PM
  • Patrick

    Anytime you have people such as Fienstein and Bloomberg in power making we have to take them serious.

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM
  • Oops that's "making statements and trying to make laws"

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 6:07 PM
  • FREE THINKER ...... I called you no names so how did your comparing me to a dog become appropriate?? AND THAT IS THE POINT.but CARRY ON I AM SURE YOU FEEL JUSTIFIED.

    AS far as narrow unpopular views are concerned if you do not view things in narrow view of ultra conservatism on this blog you get denergrated.HAVE you noticed that??I like them, don't ask for that. I ask for the opportunity to present another view without being insulted and called names.I try very hard to listen to things I find totally insulting and discriminatory without coming unglued. I certainly don't get you to listen if the first thing I do is call you a name.

    AS to your last comment you might want to ask the people on the right the same question.I am not so holy as to think I am always right with no consideration of thoughts of others.EVERYONE'S thoughts are welcome it's up to me wether I care to deal with it or discard and I would certainly like do that without being insulted in the process.IS that too much to ask???

    IN other words does that go against conservatism???? I AM BEGINNING TO WONDER.....I have some very conservative friends and we discuss everything and the name calling and denergration never become a part of it.For some reason we cant have a conversation here without it............in other words I am not a dog and I DONT APPRECIATE BEING COMPARED TO ONE

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 18, 2013, at 7:41 PM
  • YOU have a real point about sentencing.I say if you don't like the freedoms we have don't come here remain were you are with the freedoms you don't have.I also have a problem with us thinking we should impose our values on these countries if they want to stay mired in there garbage leave them in it.The populace will make the choice sooner or later.We should not make it for them,that's what gets us in trouble..But that 's my opinion.I KNOW THIS IF YOU ATTEMPT TO HURT MINE (AMERICA) I WILL COME AFTER YOU. if THEY DONT WANT OUR ADVICE TELLS US AND WE SHOULD GO AWAY.....I think that's pretty simple.

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Apr 19, 2013, at 1:39 PM
  • AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Apr 19, 2013, at 3:49 PM
  • Great news!

    -- Posted by TundraRat on Fri, Apr 19, 2013, at 7:03 PM
  • NO...Iran contra has contributed to the prolifiration of nukes.DIS ARM the American people, doesn't the party line get old???EVERYTHING THIS ADMINISTRATION DOES IS WRONG AND EVERYTHING GOP ADMINISTRATIONS DID WAS CORRECT, MUST BE NICE TO BE PERFECT........

    -- Posted by lamont on Fri, Apr 19, 2013, at 7:21 PM
  • AMEN Lamont! It isn't the 50's! Wa wah, "My people". Maybe it's time YOU join "today". I'm starting to believe YOU are the only racist on this blog. Yup! I said it! Get real.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 3:47 PM
  • FOR what it's worth the PRESIDENT did go about the gun control business the wrong way.MAYBE just maybe if there could be some concilleation about how to do it rather than getting your you know what on your shoulder we could find a way to stop this carnage of making the innocent the object of our vengence.OUR home grown terrorist seem to delight in killing our children. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.The hurt inflicted only makes people harden there hearts it is not the answer.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 3:57 PM
  • Agreed! Well said!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 4:08 PM
  • Racism is VERY alive. Agreed. And the more we focus on race, the more we perpetuate. For example...from your reference: "Dovidio and Kawakami say the study suggests North Americans need help, in the form of regulations such as workplace quotas and affirmative action." I disagree.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 4:56 PM
  • Affirmative Action is a prime example of convincing minorities that their race is a handycap which requires Gov assistance to overcome. PERPETUATION!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 5:15 PM
  • There race is a handicap and that has been well documented for those who don't want to see or believe that feel free for those of us who live it we know better.I should not have to be better than to be the same as.MY sons MBA should not be worth less to him because of the colour of his skin.NOBODY IS HARPING ON IT SIXGUN.......the comparison is we can cry about guns but we can watch people being killed in so many other ways and say nothing......go figure.There is not one major institution in this country that voluntarily desegregated,not one. EVERYONE HAD TO BE FORCED AND IN SOME CASES ARE STILL BEING FORCED.I SERVED MY COUNTRY FOR 28 YRS AND THE MILITARY I SERVED IN HAD TO BE FORCED.Your prime example is how you look at it,we don't need any convincing the numbers speak for them selves.

    I COULD BE THE ONLY RACIST HERE SIXGUN I do feel like I am the only BLACK HERE.....THE ONES I KNOW IN THIS TOWN ASK ME HOW I PUT UP WITH HALF THE GARBAGE SAID TO ME HERE.MY answer is simple why should I LET you believe misguided truths if no one speaks up.I will speak up wether you like what is said OR NOT I DONT TELL ANY LIEs and I don't exaggerate what has happened. THE impact it still has on my daily life cannot be denied the fact that it's not as blantant doesn't mean it has stoped.When you get whites right here in this town that admit racism is alive and well here it is kinda hard to deny,dont you think???????? So the next time you want to call someone a racist make sure you know what your talking about.PERPETUATION IS TO DENY IT'S HAPPENING OR DOESNT THAT COUNT?????? PROBALLY NOT...... IT'S NOT HAPPENING TO YOU...........

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 5:55 PM
  • You have NO idea who I am, or what I have experienced. Your presumptions PROVE your prejudice. Let's hear more about what is and isn't happening to me. Our country has evolved in it's thinking. You, clearly have not in yours.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 6:55 PM
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    Mike, I hope to see you tomorrow!

    -- Posted by jessiemiller on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 9:10 PM
  • YES I SAID my people because YOUR PEOPLE DONT SUFFER WHAT MINE DO.yes WERE ALL AMERICANS WHEN IT IS CONVENIENT......we don't live it.Obama didn't split the country the people within split the country when you look at the Racist comments after he got elected that becomes evident.I must say are you subscribing to he should have done something special for black folks????? I am sure that would have went over real well seeing how you have a group of folks who feel that is what he is doing. I think he see's poor as poor....poor doesn't have a colour,and the pain is the same..... CANT MAKE UP THERE MINDS.

    I have a question.... How COME none of you conservatives are not outraged at the taking away of elected rights in the state of MICHEGAN.I FIND it interesting that you can ignore that therefore saying it's ok......how does that work???

    LET me say this I DONT SEE division along racial lines,I do see it along economic lines which creates a lot of tension to include racial .....I SEE HIS THRUST BEING MORE TO THE WORKING MAN THAN TO THE CEO......and I am not so sure that the ceo'S LIKE THAT.nOW FOR ME I don't know why not because they are making money hand over fist,ck the market.WE keep bringing energy into the equation we are producing more oil than any country in the world and we are still talking about more piplines.how much is enough.???? Alternative energy is a must and every venture will not be succesfull.WHY is it that our previous president could have unsuccesfull ventures and was not hammered this one gets hammered if the toilet runs over.....would you call that a double standard or would you call it standard practice???? point BEING if the only thing you see as compared to what you consider to be normal is not there, then it must be bad then we will never get to first base.

    zook truthfully your hate is starting to overwhelm me,the threats,the my way or the hi way,the all he has to do is stop, why don't you stop????HONEST FOLKS.....RIGHT !!!!! HONEST LAMONT WITH A GUN WILL GET HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN HE IS WHO HE IS AND HAS A GUN.........HAPPENS EVERYDAY.......SO MUCH FOR HONEST FOLKS.

    REASON ,COMPROMISE AND UNDERSTANDING IS HOW WE GOT TO BE FREE............THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN BY YOU..........YOU WANT A WAR......WHY DONT YOU JUST SAY SO ........WE ALL KNOW IT. !!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 9:37 PM
  • LET ME SHARE THIS ............A poster for division is .....GOV BREWER WITH HER FINGER IN THE PRESIDENTS FACE.......THAT IS DIVISION she would not have done that to anyone else,and hasn't.The liberty's to include "YOU LIE" that have been taken with this president is unprecedented.There is your division but that's ok with you guys.

    DONT TELL ME ABOUT SHOES.....FORGIEN JOURNALIST IN A FORGIEN COUNTRY......NOT THE SAME.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sat, Apr 20, 2013, at 10:12 PM
  • FREE THINKER .......SOUNDS TO ME WHAT YOU WANT IS FOR ME TO SAY IT'S OK AND DONT BRING IT UP AND THEN YOU CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.........CANT DO THAT.SO if that's divisive so be it.I noticed you didn't comment on what I POINTED OUT WITH THE GOV ETC.

    Things have changed I would be the last to say they havn't,but some things have remained the same just because you don't see it as I do doesn't mean it isn't so and vs versa.AND JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT I have done more in my life to bring us together than you can imagine,for me to see some of the things that still transpire breaks my heart.

    I did not say blacks were still suffering I said treatment was not equal and that is real.EXAMPL......I have a name and it's not.....boy ,bub,you,etc I don't like seats by the kitchen door,I don't drink malt liquor,I don't like being waited on after everyone else when I was there before them ,those are just some of the things that get to us,but Free Thinker DO YOU THINK that is divisive AND I shouldn't have those feelings?? MY wife doesn't like it either.MOST of the time she notices before I DO BEING BLOND, BLUE EYED AND FROM ALABAMA YOU THINK MIGHT HELP HER PERCEPTION SOME.???? I don't need anything from you FREE THINKER but to refuse to acknowledge what does happen is in itself divisive

    because then your saying it aint happening to me what should I care.I assure you I would not stand by and watch you being mistreated under any cercumstances but that is me.And that is how I LIVE MY LIFE.

    zook TELL US WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE????? Because he saved the country and that has been admitted.BUT some how that gets overlooked,because it was not done your way at the exspence of the poor.I guess soap lines would have been better.I noticed you didn't comment on the GOP PLAN OF LET THE MARKET SORT ITSELF OUT.

    NO HE WAS NOT READY FOR THE JOB.however I DIDNT SEE A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE RIGHT.do YOU THINK YOU COULD MAKE IT ANYMORE MORE DIFFECULT???I can see past your critercism to bad you cant.I could see past it with BUSH.THERE are reasons things are done........DO me a favor and don't give me that your either with us or against us garbage and question my allegiance it has a tendency to set me off.I WILL SAY IT UP FRONT.......I DONT LIKE WHAT THE ULTRA RIGHT STANDS FOR........I DONT LIKE WHAT THE ULTRA LEFT STANDS FOR.......IN OTHER WORDS EXSTREMES DONT HAVE A PLACE WITH ME.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 10:24 AM
  • I consider myself to be an independent who stands in the middle. And I am very tired of hearing about "You Guys" Your Side" we are all Americans and we should be thinking about how to come together in this Country to stop the violence. I'm tired of hearing GUNS GUNS GUNS when we should be focusing on how to put a stop to this horrible violence. No one is safe anymore and a gun isn't always going to protect you.

    Instead of arguing with Lamont over what he has lived and knows it still happens today. Why not put your listening ears on and listen to what he has to say.

    I know racism is still here in this town.

    A while back I had a young black couple (Air force) as my tenants. One day while I was talking to the young man over at the rental house, his wife came home crying.

    I asked her what was wrong, but she walked past me and went in the house. Her husband finally told me with some apprehension why she was crying, and while he was telling me he began to cry and had a hard time getting it out. I held him while his tears ran down his face.

    He told me she had just went for a job interview and when she walked in the 2 lady's that were there, said "Oh we don't want you, you won't work here" and laughed ..... Maybe not the exact words told to me but close, as this was awhile ago. She turned around and walked out and came home crying. She didn't even get an interview, which is why she went there she had an appointment for an interview for the job.

    We are learning every day. If lamont feels this why not comfort him and tell him your sorry for the pain he has gone through.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 10:54 AM
  • IT is easier not to deal with the real issue but to take the sidetrack.I have never said that this president is perfect,I have said that the right has made this a gauntlet and used every exscuse they can as to why.The lies and the innuendo's have made a mockery of a political system that has worked and should continue to work.

    TO deny the obvious racial overtones to this president is to stick your head in the sand and say it's ok,it's not ok that is the point.IT is proof that things have not changed as much as we would like.BEING racist to me is one thing to the president says something else entirely.I don't think anyone here would like there children called disparaging names????ONLY this president has suffered that kind of treatment.HOW can you albi that???? hOW CAN YOU NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT??

    I don't profess to know just all the right wants I do know that some of the things they want to do will devastate large groups of people,poor people.IT is nice to say get a job however when you cant get hired ,or the job doesn't pay enough for you to get there ,something is wrong.The cause and affect of that kind of situation haunts us.IT plays havoc with schools,children,parents working 3 jobs to make ends meet etc yet we call those folks lazy.WE speak of a nanny state,well maybe if we didn't pay corporations to move out of the country it would not be.BUT WERE INTO MONEY FOR THE STOCK HOLDERS ,THE FACT THAT YOUR POPULACE IS STARVING DOESNT COUNT OR THAT WE CREATED THE NANNY STATE.Every place that manufacturing has come back to is thriving.IT will take at least a decade to get this whole mess squared away and those that think it can be done in a few years have not looked at what got us to where we were at.National policy will have to change in some very fundamental ways,and this adversarial attitude we have about everything will have to change.There are more important things than guns.WE need to stop picking out places for people in our society and foster these peoples asperations to continue to keep AMERICA GREAT.see THROUGH THE MEDIA GARBAGE AND THERE NEED TO SELL THEMSELFES AND THERE PRODUCT.SEE people as they really are not as someone tells us they are or depicts them to suit there purpose.TAKE a look at why you have a program and what it's intent is before you try to find a way to sabotage it,question before we commit our young to wars,wars that do not serve OUR national intrest.INsure that the money our government spends is in our intrest and not someone elses.We have habits left over from the forty's that do not serve us well today ,they need to be gone.Stop reacting to people like kim jung un. WE have got ourselves in and arms race we don't need to be in. BUT the media is not telling us that are they??? Read you will find out what I am saying.IF there is no peace treaty in korea.....then why do we have dependents there with there spouses,that makes no sense,and DEFEATS OUR MILITARY PURPOSE.I could go on all day but some here will Ignore what I am saying for the sake of pointing fingers at this president it seems like there only goal.JUST remember what he created and what he didn't.ONE last thing any and all arms sales can be stopped by congress,with or without the president so when you point fingers at EYGYPT point them at our congress......so who's lining there pockets????

    I can here the exscuses now and it will be about jobs in there districts.IF you watch some of the hearings about the defense budget this week you would have got sick at the self serving garbage that was discussed.They don't have our best intrest at heart........got to go for now .........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 11:48 AM
  • -- Posted by MsMarylin on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 12:18 PM
  • I appreciate your research MS M........BUT MY POINT IS THE IMPLICATIOMNS OF THE TYPE OF INSULTS AND THESE FOLKS JUST DONT GET IT.I cant take back what was said it's said the point is the attitudes as displayed that make those insults and there all not from the so called common man.That attitude is a deterent to this presidency and people want to act like no it isn't.,THEY SAY So what they all get insults..... this is different but it is easier to ignore.

    WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE PLOTTING YOUR DEMISE BEFORE YOU EVEN GET SWORN IN.........WHAT DOES THAT SAY???????? YES ZOOK PLOTTING based on what you have said the demise of the country,remember you said to want a president to fail is to want the country to fail.......your words not mine.

    FREE THINKER devisive started the day he got elected and he didn't start it.SO please point fingers were they belong.

    BAD choices and bad advice has caused him a lot of pain but that happens to the best of them and should be considered the same way here but it is not.That is called a double standard is it not???

    Don't even believe all minority's back this man that is not true at all.The right has not put anyone up that minority's TRUST.THIS IS NOT ABOUT WELFARE AS SOME HERE THINK. TO THINK THAT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND PATRONIZING AT BEST.IT is about TRUST.......GET IT..... WE DONT TRUST YOU AND YOU GIVE US NO REASON TO BASED ON YOUR TREATMENT OF THIS MAN ,it IS THAT SIMPLE.

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 6:12 PM
  • HAD MORE MAJOR SHOOTING INCIDENTS THAN ANY PRESIDENT......IT'AS ALL POLETICS.....ANYHOW.

    The right dubbed his tour and apology tour and never considered what was trying to be accomplished ,but it makes no difference I have said all I need to.When peoples minds are closed to anything but what they want to hear it is a waste of time to approach them with anything else.AND as far as we hear what we want I suggest you look in the mirror.

    INDEPENDENT HEALTHCARE= death for most on the lower rung of society and in some cases the middle class also.That is what the right wants or they want all your assests which equal the same for most.KINDA comical if it wasn't so pathetic for a society such as ours.PLEASE tell me who can afford 4-600 a month per person for health care. I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT ON A 50,000 A YR JOB.HOUSE,CAR,FOOD,UTILITIES,CLOTHES,SCHOOL FEES ETC SURE LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT??? HELP!!!!!!!!!

    -- Posted by lamont on Sun, Apr 21, 2013, at 7:53 PM
  • FREE THINKER...... I did not say I REFUSED TO PLAY the song because they were a white southern rock group .I SAID I don't play it because like a lot of music out there today it had no musical saving grace.......anybody can play one chord.Why would you ask a jazz contempory group to play free byrd?? my MOTHER DIDNT PAY FOR MUSIC LESSONS FOR ME TO PLAY FREE BYRD.......I don't play rap music and I PLAY VERY LITTLE COUNTRY ALL FOR THE SAME REASON........NICE TRY BUT DONT ASSUME SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT SAID AT ALL.Yes I am a trained jazz musician and we tend to be snobs about our music.

    I also didn't say anything about the stimulus saving the country .STOP TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. HEALTHCARE is not affordable now don't believe me get really sick.

    DONT try to double talk me FREE THINKER.DONT TRY TO MAKE ME OUT TO BE SOMETHING I AM NOT.yOU JUMPED RIGHT ON that white southern rock thing didn't you, and if you had read the entire sentence you would have understood what I meant not what YOU wanted it to mean.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 9:52 AM
  • FREE THINKER.......do you really think that with the racial attitude of approx. 1/3 this country the way it is that this president has and gets and equal and impartial critique,sorry but I don't think so..THAT IS MY POINT.....wether you and I want it or not the playing field is still not level.I have to consider that when things take place,I don't want to but I have to.The part that gets to me is how some can try to say everything is OK and race has played no part in what goes on with this president.That my friend is a bald face lie.HOW much it has played a part in this is open for discussion pro and con.

    ME pointing out the racism is simply to say to you it is still there alive and well and it plays a part in our society,one which is harmfull and distructive to everyone and to the nation.The complacency about it perpetuates the situation.NO person black,white ,green,or yellow should be subjected to that kind of demeaning behavior for the sake of someone feeling superior,it needs to stop.I will not tolerate a black calling you out of your name simply because I am black, it's wrong.If you tolerate it with saying nothing YOU are part of the problem.DO I think it will totally stop ...NO.....BUT WE CAN WORK AT IT.

    zook THE HEALTH CARE PEOPLE WHO WILL LEAVE DIDNT MEAN YOU ANY GOOD IN THE BEGINNING.THE ones I talked to in the hospital have no intention of leaving.The cost driver here is the privatization of hospitals were the STOCK holders want money.......you and I have become just another pawn who's pockets must be dug into if you die who cares as long as you pay the bill.This is about profits to the share holders it is not about healthcare.WE have just aas many AMERICANS CROSSING THE BORDER FOR BASIC HEALTHCARE,THEY HAVE DONE DOCUMENTARY'S ON IT.It is not a one way street.

    ALL I hear from ZOOK is when the company's cut back etc.For as many that are doing that there are new start ups every day. It sounds like you want the economy to fail,well to bad it's not. Check the stock market,and various other indicaters it's not failing,it's just not growing as fast as we need it to, to accomadate all that we do. REALITY is there are some that the only thing they want is for the economy to fail, soup lines is what they want to see and they wont be satisfied until they do.UNEMPLOYMENT IN IDAHO 6.2 % is that pretty good or what?? SO what do you want???that is approx 1 point above what is considered by many full employment........well enough for now got to go .........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 10:43 AM
  • *

    So we "put it behind us". Is that the advice we should give our children's children?

    Years of systemic discrimination, perpetuated by cretins and laissez-faire racists, which affected generations of families, would easily be overcome if those affected would just "put it behind us"?

    Feel free to think a little deeper.

    -- Posted by Dave Thompson on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 10:47 AM
  • THIS is for FREE THINKER.......so we get it straight......I did not in any way intimate that I didn't play the song because the group was white.........I don't play it because it has no musical worth.....it has one chord, I don't play MUSTANG Sally either.I consider it the YUPPIE national anthem..... if you don't know any song you know mustang sally and ask for it your cool......hello.!!!!!!! FUNNY thing the other members of my band who are all white feel the same way.WE are contemporary jazz muscians and when you ask for those songs considering what we probally have been playing ......IT'S AND INSULT. ......NOW I HOPE THAT SETS IT STRAIGHT I HAVE BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS TO FRY.

    I DONT LIKE THE TWISTING TO SUIT YOUR PURPOSE I cant find the post otherwise I would quote it.

    THANKS......PATRICK I appreciate it.

    OH and FREE THINKER.....PUT RACISM BEHIND ME SOUNDS GOOD .....WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STOP BEING RACIST. your asking something of me ......ask my question to the racist,that's when it gets put behind us......why should I continue to turn the other cheek.YOU SMACK ME I will SMACK YOU BACK.....

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 12:18 PM
  • Lamont I looked for that post, couldn't find it. I will look again. I know you didn't post what FT implied. You were talking about music and chords, nothing more.

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 12:51 PM
  • FREE THINKER....I hear you and consider this that is a two way street......I don't like being considered under the heading of "you people" SO IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM SO DO I AND BELIEVE IT IT IS THE SAME.I PERSONALLY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE FACES OF THOSE THAT PROMOTE RACISM.With that said.....all I have said is that based on the racial attitude of a good 30% of the country this president race is a factor in how he is judged and how his decisions are viewed.That is all I have been saying and SOME of those judgments have racial overtones.

    you HAVE NOT HEARD ME TALK ABOUT SLAVERY, THAT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH WHAT IS GOING ON.SLAVERY ONLY IS RELEVANT AS YOU TALK ABOUT HOW WE GET FROM POINT A TO B.THE precedences set during that time made an impact but at this point in time that impact should be negligible.I don't use slavery as some back drop to exscuse destructive behavior.AS a white person you can make more in roads than I can on this subject,I am expected to be outraged I find when whites speak up IT gets more action.

    In any event it took us awhile to get here but I think we have and understanding and I can appreciate that. JUST remember that nose rubbing goes both ways.

    LAST...... I did not call anyone a racist for not agreeing with the president.WHEN and if I CALL SOMEONE A racist I AM USUALLY ON VERY FIRM GROUND.I don't make that charge lightly it's not part of me.PEOPLE who know me know that.I might tell you something has racial overtones but don't take that as and accusation pointed at you.When I get pointed I get pointed.

    YOU have a good day........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 4:41 PM
  • HI PATRICK......HOW are you????? don't concern yourself with sixgun or any of the others that think Ill just call you out of your name and you should just keep quite and sooner or later Ill stop.This aint 1960 and I am not GHANDI.......SMILE .....That attitude is very prevelant.The fact that you get hurt,your kids get hurt,your wife etc doesn't dawn on them they think it's ok.That is why it still happenes.sometimes I THINK IT'S FUNNY WHEN I confront and they act like why are you insulted.

    HERE is one for you ....if you ever saw my band you would know immediately who the leader is,but We get some who want to ask everyone but me about booking the band and some when they find out ( because my guys are aware they point them to me like right away) I AM THE LEADER NO LONGER WANT TO BOOK US.POINT BEING why would you talk to someone about bookings that it's obvious is not the person you should be talking to.The type of music doesn't change because I am the leader it's so stupid that all you can do is laugh.Some here strike me as some of those people.

    IT is a pleasure to talk to some who understand.

    ZOOK........bigotry is not only about race.HOW can you consider yourself fair minded and hate liberals. That is as bigoted as anything I have ever heard......SO you tune out half the people around you.IT;S ok to reinforce your beliefs but that doesn't make your beliefs the only ones that count,or that should be considered.MATTER of fact when you tune out like that you are just another ZEALOT AND THAT MY FRIEND IS SCARY.......you need to think about that.

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 11:30 AM
  • FREE THINKER......stop IT..........FENDER GUITAR AND PENZOIL ill have to think about that.....at first I just laughed I thought that was funny as all get out.

    ZOOK as far as hammering liberals we all have....just not like you,you take it to another level everyday.......it does get old.We don't hammer the right everyday.WE try to have a conversation.....the snide remarks ,and the name calling of liberals doesn't foster that conversation.I personally dislike actions,I don't really hate anyone lifes to short for that and everyone has something to contribute as far as I'M concerned.I DONT LIKE RAND PAUL,BECAUSE OUT OF HIS MOUTH HE IS A BIGOTED PERSON WITH AND EXSCUSE FOR WHY HE IS THAT WAY.The students at HOWARD U. saw right threw him.And he's one of the darlings of the TEA PARTY.....WHAT does that say about them???leader REID IS A PERSON WHO IS A BIGOT AND DOESNT EVEN KNOW IT.His COMMENT ABOUT THE president SPEECH was so far out of line it not even worth repeating,but it is typical of people who have no real contact and have preconceived notions.I get what he said all the time.IF you notice I try to reason why someone does what they do it is all not cut and dry as some seem to think it is.

    Our constitution is what it is but not verything said in 1778 fits what our nation faces in 2013 that is why we have a supreme court to ensure we interpret those things properly.NOBODY is trying to change the constitution and that party line gets real old and insulting.MAYBE you need to look at what is trying to be done to a womans right to choose,and voting rights,and some other issues before you go pointing fingers at the left ,the right does not have clean hands here.....well going to go ........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 3:19 PM
  • Fender VS Gibson? GREAT TOPIC! Zook, I MISS your blogs (when people commented according to topic). You had helpful info, and they were just cool to read and see. I won't get into Strats vs Pauls, because I SUCK at gismos. I had an amp once that had enought dials to launch the shuttle. I'm more inclined to play camp fire songs than I am to learn all they techy stuff. If I rememember right, Zook's favorite "git fiddle" player used wood as well? Zook should re-start a music/cars/guns blog again and delete EVERY topic non-related. Man, I was learning ALOT!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 5:51 PM
  • Back in the day Brother, you took TIME, thought stuff out, and even provided pics for reference. What a far shot (pun intended) from how these blogs have evolved! COME BACK!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 5:56 PM
  • Free Thinker, my good buddy and bazookaman leave no doubt they have at least a small streak of bigotry running through their weak and curved backbones when they post and agree with;

    "Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America."

    The Tea Party wonders why most regular people see them as extremists. It's simply in their words, beliefs and actions but they either act or are blind to this for some reason.

    -- Posted by sara-connor on Wed, Apr 24, 2013, at 5:55 AM
  • Sorry TK, I don't release me email to anyone. No offense intended. Zook, I don't recall a spaghetti function.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Wed, Apr 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM
  • LETS see....I am black,and I have been a government worker (usaf 28YRS).so I guess I fall in that persons category.THE fact that I HAVE PROBALLY DONE MORE,CREATED MORE,HIRED MORE PEOPLE,SPENT MORE MONEY,OWN MORE PROPERTY THAN HE HAS IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE,AND HE WANTS TO TELL ME WHAT I HAVE DONE TO AMERICA.I WOULD SAY TO HIM HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHAT AMERICA HAS DONE TO ME.

    FOR \those who subscribe to this premise all you have done is show your true thoughts.IT'S OK we probally had that figured out already.THIS JUST SHOWS THE ATTEMPTS TO INSULT HERE ON THIS BLOG.

    HERE is truth when you subjugate and then attempt to albi your action it becomes easy to blame the people you have mistreated,then you don't have to take responsibility for your actions.FOR EXAMPLE IT'S MY FAULT I DONT GET HIRED.i CANT QUITE FIGURE THAT OUT CONSIDERING MY CREDENTIALS BUT I AM SURE IT IS MY FAULT........THERE IS THE TRUTH......SO ALBI THAT.absolutly correct that says it all.you don't know enough about most of that to make that judgement and neither does that person who made those comments IGNORANCE IS BLISS.......

    -- Posted by lamont on Wed, Apr 24, 2013, at 11:42 AM
  • *

    Hi lamont! Hope you're doing well.

    Right on with your last.

    You did a good job of highlighting the fallacy that was put forth. No right thinking individual would make such a stupid remark and then claim it is based on logic.

    -- Posted by Dave Thompson on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 9:15 AM
  • *

    "Cowards" (free thinkers) went to Canada.

    Sheeples "Sheep" went to Viet Nam.

    -- Posted by Dave Thompson on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 10:00 AM
  • THANKYOU........PATRICK A....BUT TO POINT OUT HOW FORGIEN dilomacy works on here is just about a waste of time.Just goes to show how the message is framed depends on how it is accepted.TO SOME HERE IF THEY DONT DO WHAT WE WANT JUST START DROPPING BOMBS.That is what has got us in the pickle we are in now. BUT that doesn't count just pick someone else and start bombing then they will know we mean business.

    The facts you point out fall on deaf ears.

    The panama canal was never really ours.

    The b-1 was troubled and flawed weapon system just now finding it's legs in it's modified versaion.

    I guess some would have preferred the hostages died............THEN would could drop some bombs.

    CARTER may not have been a very forcefull person but he was not stupid nor was he a coward.

    HE was not my choice for president but he was president and most of his choices have been vindicated.BUT I KNOW THE RIGHT DOESNT WANT TO HEAR THAT AFTERALL HE DIDNT BOMB ANYBODY..........LATER

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM
  • Hey TK, he actually did. Read his book. BTW, Bill O' said the same thing in one of his books. Probelm is, rich folks don't think about money...EVER. It's just always been there; it's like air for most. He never saw the signs. Conversly, Clinton paid special attention to the deficit because he is a boot-strapper just like Regan was. Our current pres got where he is by Gov loans, and gov jobs. This explains ALOT!!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 3:09 PM
  • WELL.......SIXGUN.i WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WERE YOU GOT YOUR INFORMATION BECAUSE I SEARCHED AND COULD FIND NO GOVERNMENT LOANS OR FINANACIAL AID,NO GOVERNMENT JOBS OTHER THAN POLETICS.

    Seeing how the president was in the top 5% OF HIS CLASS I WOULD GUESS HE WAS ON SCHOLERSHIP.BUT I would also guess that it is easier to attempt to place him in a stereotypical way than to check out the facts.........I am sure PATRICK A WILL DO SOME HUNTING ALSO BUT that is what I found.SO again were did you get your INFORMATION.????

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 3:37 PM
  • PA, read his official bio on the White House Gov link. It mentions school, teaching (state paid), Community Organizer and Pres. http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-obama

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:01 PM
  • Maybe, the official White House page will pacify, FOR ONCE your incessant need for reliable references.

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:08 PM
  • So Timeline trumps the President of the United State's Official Presidentail bio? Are you serious?

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:13 PM
  • Sorry again for presenting Obama approved FACTS. Baaahahahah. CLOWN!!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:15 PM
  • SIXGUN........there is a big difference between what you posted and whats in the bio and you know it.

    Thanks PATRICK I KNEW YOU WOULDNT LET THAT FLY.

    I paid for my kids education SIXGUN.....my son bachelors electrical engineering.....HOWARD U.

    MBA WHARTON.....MARKETING AND BUSINESS.

    DAUGHTER....BACHELORS PHILOSPHY.... HAMILTON U.

    MBA....COLUMBIA....BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. WE ALL ARE NOT ON WELFARE SIXGUN.

    Since when did teaching become something that we look down on? Since when did attempting to help people better themselves become something to look down on.I have always had a problem with how we looked at his time as a community organizer.That was not a paid government,(STATE OR FED ) position.TO some helping disenfranchised people seems to be a crime of some sort,cant quite figure that out.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:22 PM
  • Zook, My AK has a 45 rounder. That's also what I was gonna bring hahah. What time are you heading out? Maybe fishin' and Shooting is in order?

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:31 PM
  • Lamont,

    I din't say "You are all on welfare". AGIAN it becomes racism without ONE SINGLE refrence to ethnicity. I was talking about OUR President. How does questioning his experience eaqual racism? AND YES that is what his bio said. (No better than the Bush's Dallas-like oil money btw). Opps, I said Bush was a rich oil man, that must make me a Black Panther! Sick your your "We all, and My people" whining. I stated nothing of the sort!

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 4:45 PM
  • Yup, afternoon would have worked, but we like to hit the catfish at sunrise, or just before. My son LOVES drowning worms! I'm actually very proud to have an 8-yr-old that owns an X-Box, but would rather spend time fishing (exploring and catching butterflies and rarely checking his pole) than playing video games. hahahahahah

    -- Posted by sixguns on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 5:03 PM
  • YOUR ....ABOUT AS DEAF AS YOU WANT TO BE ....AND NOBODY'S WHINING. BUT you sure showed your you know what with your response WE ALL/ MY PEOPLE....I take it you don't like those terms.I don't speak in eubonics so when you speak to me speak English it might help.

    No you didn't say we are all on welfare you implied we get free rides.And that is not whats in his BIO AGAIN AND YOU KNOW IT.....SO say what you want we all got what you implied.......The more you do it the more you insure we know what you are all about........it's getting to be a joke.I know if I didn't say anything and just let it go I WOULD BE AND OK PERSON.......HELLO !!!!!!!

    NEVER.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 5:26 PM
  • CAREFULL DAVE........I AM NOT A SHEEP.....AND MOST OF US WHO SERVED WERE NOT SHEEP......I really have a problem with that analogy.We SERVED BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY ASKED,AND FOR LOVE OF COUNTRY WE DID THAT.......OUR honor has been questioned for years to say the least,JUST as these kids have served so did we in the same kind of garbage,They come home hero's,we came home dregs,IT has never set real well with us, you open a box I REALLY DONT WANT TO GO INTO.......SO LET it SURFICE TO SAY..........WE were NOT SHEEP.......MORE HERO'S THAN NOT........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 5:48 PM
  • OH NO !!!!!!! PATRICK YOUR A LIBERAL AND STUPID DONT YOU KNOW THAT.??????????? SHAME ON YOU......

    WE are devisive because we don't go along with it.We are defending and we all know only the right is right.......HELLO!!!!!!!! IT does get old..........later

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 6:33 PM
  • I would say from what I found the trend of thought is a toss up between recovery and a fiscal cliff.SO WERE TEETERING AND TOTEERIN.The thing that really play's a part here is the implementation of parts of obamacare.Certain parts of that bill need to be changed.IT does not lend itself to help a recovery if we stay at the level we are at.WE need to grow it would seem by consensus at a 6% PER YEAR AND WE ARE GROWING AT 2 % WHICH DOESNT LEND ITSELF TO A SUSTAINED RECOVERY.The other thing that seems to play in this is the world economy that will affect our markets.

    WE are not going to have boom town markets unless you want to go to war.IS that the answer to keep our economy booming and at what exspense.I don't need to boom at the exspense of going to war. Every time we go to booming we are involved in some sort of military conflict.

    SO for those who sit out and have sat those things out, rooting for a conflict is easy and it must make them feel good as long as it's not them who have to serve.That should make you a candidate for residency for a mental hospital.

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 8:19 PM
  • FREE thinker.....I did not mention anything about regulations,hiring or anything like that.i talk about opinions of economist and what they have written about.I DONT HAVE TO IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION ADMIT TO ANYTHING WHEN I see something written from both side as impartial as I can find I will then talk about regulations and there impact.I have stated time and time again that parts of the health care act are not compatible with sustain growth and if the economy was different the healthcare act would probally not be a problem but at present it is.

    YOU also don't grow and economy with policies and regulations that allows your population to be poisoned,to be cheated and taken advantage of,that price fixes and generally gouges it's most vunerable in the name of PROFITS.sooner THAN LATER YOUR POPULATION WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

    These problems no longer just affect the poor because as these things continue the recipricants of these want more and they continue to raise prices so you and I the middle class get squessed to the point that we are living hand to mouth.I for one get tired of it and I have good money.MY wife and I SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE AS WE PLANNED .but THE OIL COMPANY'S WANT MORE ,THE ELCT CO. WANTS MORE ,THE GARBAGE GUY WANTS MORE ,GROCERY'S GO UP,PRODUCE TO EAT HEALTHIER GOING UP BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS. tell ME WHY ceo pay HAS WENT UP 240% BUT BASIC WORKERS PAY HASNT CHANGED IN PERCENTAGES IN 40 YRS.That may be ok with you and sixgun it is not ok with me.

    You are so focused on the elephant you cant see the trees.I really don't care how much you denergrate the president because you would do that anyhow he's a democrat.BUT to lay this all at his door step is just plain wrong.BUT it's ok if it makes you feel good and if it makes you feel good with your accusations at me go for it.I know this I am not one tracked minded if I were I would not have been successfull in my life.HAVE A GREAT DAY

    -- Posted by lamont on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 9:47 PM
  • To sixguns your comment about fishing caught my eye.

    I love fishing and whenever the wind ain't blowing I would rather spend my time fishing then any thing else. Education is also something I think is important. Tomorrow is Friday RIGHT ?? You said your taking your 8 yr old son fishing before sunrise.

    Don't forget he needs to go to school (tomorrow)friday?

    -- Posted by WinterStorm on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 9:53 PM
  • I wonder how long it will take for us to see the full impact of Obamacare? The only thing I've heard so far is coverage for children going into effect. I know people who have employment offered insurance and turned it down and have gone uncovered without any fines etc... and I've seen articles on some businesses saying it actually won't cost them more and will save them. (We'll see long term) I'm just wondering when the full blow will be here cause I didn't believe him for a minute when he said our taxes wouldn't go up. Mine have already gone up this year for SSI.

    -- Posted by betteyourwrong on Thu, Apr 25, 2013, at 11:15 PM
  • The local Tea Party cabal is confused right now. Bazookaman seems to agree with 95% of what Free Thinker writes and posts except the part "Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America." Confusion or does bazookaman just disagree with Free Thinker that there will be a shooting war? Bazookaman, shock and awe baby.

    The local Tea Party cabal doesn't know if being extremely successful in life and career is good or bad. The friends and neighbors we talked to yesterday believe it's amazing an American citizen can get some government grants and enter the government workforce and end up becoming President of the US. Only in their own special twisted thinking process can the Tea Party look at that and insinuate it's a bad thing. What made us LOL the most is sixguns 19 years as a government workers and he hates his boss and the CINC. Says a lot about sixguns, his upward mobility, drive and usefulness to this country.

    Free Thinker, you need to come out with the girls next month. We'd gladly include you in our mani-pedi day out. We even go out for a light diner, some dancing and a few glasses of wine. New girl has to be the designated driver though. What do you say Free Thinker? Your stress meter seems to be pegged at 10.

    -- Posted by sara-connor on Fri, Apr 26, 2013, at 6:58 AM
  • bazookaman, are you making up facts again?

    -- Posted by sara-connor on Fri, Apr 26, 2013, at 7:36 AM
  • .....or Buckshot.....you could just do yet another cut and paste job:

    Answer:

    Colleges vs. Universities vs. Schools:

    The difference between a college and a university is that a college just offers a collection of degrees in one specific area while a university is a collection of colleges.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_college_and_a_univers...

    -- Posted by Pale Ale on Fri, Apr 26, 2013, at 11:34 AM
  • Sorry Free Thinker, I just found out our May, 2013 Mani-Pedi Day Out is fully booked. Too many girls and not enough seats in the van. The June Day Out might include a tattoo parlor stop. Let me know.

    -- Posted by sara-connor on Fri, Apr 26, 2013, at 1:27 PM
  • Here's another One of zooks favorites

    http://youtu.be/XcYsO890YJY

    -- Posted by MsMarylin on Fri, Apr 26, 2013, at 3:32 PM
  • STOP - PLEASE! Do not get pulled into this childish immature dialog. It has gotten so far off topic that it is ridiculous. That goes for everyone. I am disgusted with all the name calling and nastiness. This will be my one and only comment. I am tired of this and busy so there is no time for this babysitting. If you don't like it go someplace else. Period! If the story/blog is about daisies you better be talking flowers. Stay on topic. My patience is gone.

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