It's time for WECRD to act

Posted Wednesday, August 29, 2012, at 8:25 AM
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  • Excellent synopsis, Kelly. I thought the WECRD had closer to three million saved but not sure. I don't understand why they couldn't have designed a Phase I building with the money they have now (which is nothing to sneeze at), and foregone the feasibility study and capital campaign, which only delays things even more and doesn't guarantee that the more than half million can be raised (as you pointed out). I think the support the Rec District has for this project is diminishing with each year that goes by and nothing showing on that land except weeds. People that were once so hopeful and excited for this center for themselves and their families have seen their kids grow up and leave without ever having this facility. You are so right, the time to act is NOW or be done with it.

    -- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 9:21 AM
  • I am so sick of being forced to pay a tax on something that just isn't going to happen. They don't seem to take advantage of facilities or monies they could use for the project. They have had studies up the butt and do nothing with them. Look at how they are dragging their feet on this last study. Except for Mollie, they change directors as much as they change their underwear. There doesn't seem to be any continuity and they don't seem to want to follow any other advice but their own. I am done with it and often wonder if the tax could be fought in a courtroom. Sounds extreme, but they have been told by community that people are now totally impatient. The original people who voted this in had children who are grown and gone and still not one shovel of dirt has been dug. They are not "shovel ready."

    -- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 10:05 AM

    -- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 10:05 AM
  • I agree with all the posts so far, this has gone on long enough.

    Shut down WECRD and return the few remaining dollars to the community!

    -- Posted by Mtn Man on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 11:22 AM
  • Wow Kelly---I had to change my glasses and read this 3 times. Then I had to make sure it was really you that wrote this.

    NICE JOB! Glad to see you are in a more reality based way with respect to the WECRD. Welcome to club "naysayer" as I suspect you are going to have some "splayning" to do.

    GREAT job. At some point I knew the truth would make its way out.

    Now if you could just figure out what the operating budget will be because the YMCA plans to charge this community 20% of the ops budget to run this thing---and that has NEVER been included in any of the "budgets" this far---including what the YMCA has put out. So, we will pay the YMCA 20% of some ops budget (whatever that figure is/claims to be) and have less for recreation and programs.

    We need to focus more on what having a YMCA will cost US and how they have done in other local areas. Things are not as great as they seem on that front. Seems like the WECRD Board needs to play better with others and focus on hiring someone to run this facility for less than what the YMCA will charge and invest in this community with programs. The YMCA is only involved because of the constant flow of tax dollars and have no "skin in the game" if this folds.

    Then there is the legality issues of turning public tax dollars over to the YMCA under the rules the YMCA has set---ALL money will be turned over to the YMCA. Nobody can say if this is legal or not. Further, when another WECRD Board is elected---they could vote NOT to fund this. Then what? Some big questions to answer. I think we should have resolved those before we did another $20,000 "study" where the outcome was engineered anyway.

    This is a proposed country club that few will use but all will pay for.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM
  • Western Elmore County Recreation District

    Fiscal Year 2012-2013 Operating Budget

    Commencing October 1, 2012 & continuing through September 30, 2013


    Tax Revenue $ 449,712.00

    Interest Income $ 2,000.00

    Total Estimated Revenue $ 451,712.00



    Land Development/

    Building Savings Fund $ 279,312.00

    Office Equipment $ 1,500.00

    Estimated Capital Expenses $ 280,812.00


    Accounting & Legal $ 14,500.00

    Advertising/Marketing $ 800.00

    Community Involvement and Programs $ 18,000.00

    Contract Labor/Implementation of

    Phase II of YMCA $ 75,000.00

    Dues/Subscriptions $ 200.00

    Insurance/Bonding $ 2,500.00

    Irrigation $ 800.00

    Licenses/Permits $ 200.00

    Maintenance/ Repair/Cleaning $ 3,500.00

    Miscellaneous $ 100.00

    Office Supplies (includes postage) $ 1,000.00

    Payroll $ 21,000.00

    Payroll Tax $ 3,000.00

    Printing/Reproduction $ 700.00

    Professional Training $ 700.00

    Rent $ 10,000.00

    Technology/Website $ 12,000.00

    Travel/Meals $ 400.00

    Utilities $ 6,500.00

    Estimated Operating Expenses $ 170,900.00

    Total Estimated Expenses: $451,712.00

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 12:30 PM
  • Kelly, its about time you realized what a Waste of tax money this WECRD has become. I voted for it also many years ago because I believed it would benefit young and old in the community. However the only ones to benefit have been board members, staff and and other Administrative help to the tune of around 50% of tax collected,$2,000,000.00. Thats a lot of zeroes! You just glossed over the Admin cost in your editorial, how about doing a more in-depth report. Maybe you can get on 60 Minutes I hear their looking for some younger talent.

    -- Posted by gmoney on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 12:37 PM
  • Over the years, there has been numerous vacant buildings in town that could have served nicely as a Rec Center. The old Conn-Edison building off hiway 20 comes to mind, as well as the Good Counsel Hall you mentioned. Buying an existing building an renovating it could have saved a ton of money off that 4.5 million it will cost for this new building. We could have had this center up and running years ago for a fraction of the price.

    I also think what might have sped things along was when the Rec District was originally formed, the WECRD President position should have been a paid position. That way, someone would have been held accountable for missed deadlines, not listening to public opinions, etc. They could have been fired and replaced rather than an all-volunteer Board that is locked in for four years.

    -- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 1:23 PM
  • I agree on using vacant buildings. I have wondered about that for a long long time. It has to be "all or nothing". My gosh, for the money, if we could have had a vacant building think of the money that would have maybe been saved and put into more or better equipment.

    -- Posted by midea on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 1:29 PM
  • When are the elections for these Board Members anyway? It's time to give someone else a crack at getting this done before we're all in our graves.

    -- Posted by Redroth on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 4:37 PM
  • Buckshot, I don't know about the golf course situation, but the city and Mayor are not the runs running the WECRD show. In fact, they have, for the most part, stayed out of it. They didn't get their chosen people elected at the last WECRD Director's election.

    -- Posted by Second Wind on Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 6:21 PM
  • Why is whe WECRD giving away tens of thousands of dollars if they are attempting to build a recreation facility? Oh yeah, they will recover that money with the proposed CC for 600K.

    It should be illegal to give away money for anything other than what was voted for way back when. This is not a piggy bank folks to be raided at will for pet projects.

    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Aug 30, 2012, at 8:49 AM
  • Well, you're certainly changing your tune there, OM. Wasn't it you who, a couple of years ago, blasted the WECRD nonstop on these blogs for not donating money to youth programs and local community projects?

    -- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Aug 30, 2012, at 12:49 PM
  • was. That was also LONG before they claimed to be able to build and LONG before they were going to ask members of the community to donate 600K. If you are really going to build something---then keep the money you do have AND BUILD. Pretty simple. Common sense.

    "We are closer than ever."


    -- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Aug 30, 2012, at 2:11 PM
  • Good point.

    -- Posted by Second Wind on Thu, Aug 30, 2012, at 5:28 PM
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