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A fairly simple question.

Posted Monday, February 27, 2012, at 2:00 PM

If on Nov. 7 2012 the will of the citizens of the United States is that President Obama is to serve a 2nd term, then what?  I'm not talking a narrow margin, less than 1 million votes, but by 6-8 million votes. And if the Democrats retain the Senate as well? Will we have a government by the people, or will the minority still try and force their will on the majority?


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If he wins the conservative republicans will have a list of excuses why he won. The first 2 excuses popped into my head......

1.Voting fraud

2.Ignorant!

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They will never say it was because he was better then the Jokers

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 2:08 PM

Hi CJW, home today, no work :-(. I should have limited myself to more specific issues, the budget or lack there of, taxes, and spending. I absolutely cringe at the thought of us getting involved in another foreign conflict. Just what we need, another unfunded war.

I know I will take heat for this, but if Israel decides to strike first, WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF IT!

The middle east is a no win situation.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 2:31 PM

CJW......I GOT ONE BETTER..... LETS LEAVE IT TO THEM AND COME HOME PERIOD. NO REASON TO BE THERE. BTWEEN now and then let the afghans destroy there own books.The idiotic politicians dont have there kids over there so they mourn no loss. They give lip service otherwise we would have been out of there.

I can support israel as and ally and therefore the saudie also......IRAN Will target the saudies also BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HELPING US.GOING OUT THE GATE WOULD GET RID OF FRUSTRATION AND SHOW FORCE, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO BUT FOR ME WOULD SOLVE NOTHING.....If we cant carry it destroy it, they dont want to buy it ship it,pack and go .(30 days) GONE LOCK STOCK AND BARRELL...MY OPINION...... WE PLAYED THIS SCENARIO AT THE SENIOR ACADEMY YEARS AGO,THAT IS WHY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN BOTHERED AT THE SCALE WE DID........LATTER

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 3:12 PM

Well CJW, we agree about the politicians. I view the people of Afghanistan much like the people of Vietnam during that mess. Smile to your face and stick a knife in your back at first chance. My considered opinion is that when they indicated that they wanted their King back, we should have said fine, packed our stuff and left.

That they are a backwards country I think is a given. That they are a proud and defiant people has been proven over and over.

The Israelis have proven over and over that they are big boys. We have armed them to the teeth and for the most part they haven't been afraid to use those weapons. Given time I think Iran's neighbors will be the ones to put enough pressure on Iran to get them to back off.

Just my opinion.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 3:13 PM

Does that count all the votes Obama gets from dead people? Intimidation by the black panthers?

I'm saying there will fruad and intimindation by obamas supporters even if he loses.

No excuses it is in the libs heart and mind to cheat and be dishonest.

I just want someone in office that will actually follow that piece of paper signed in Philly over 200 years ago.

-- Posted by Trouble2011 on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 3:33 PM

TROUBLE2011......"No exscuses it is in the libs heart and mind to cheat and be dishonest" WOW !!!that is half the country your serious right???

DEAD PEOPLE BLACKPANTHERS......VOTER FRAUD...(.0003 %)...I so far havn't seen any convictions on that except from the right.SEC STATE OF INDIANA...a conservative republican.....

Someone who will follow the constitution...WE HAVNT HAD ONE OF THOSE SINCE IT WAS WROTE.THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.....HAVE A GOOD DAY

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 3:59 PM

Might I add this.

http://voices.yahoo.com/presidential-ele...

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 4:06 PM

Nice post as always CJW with respect to Israel.

Roy, if we turn our backs on Israel in favor of the enemy---people never to be trusted---we are done. You had better be careful what you wish for.

This administration is Hitler all over again. If we turn our backs on a country that has ALWAYS supported us...we are doomed. I believe in my heart that is where we are headed.

More "change we can believe in." The man is the devil in a suit and speaks with a forked tongue...bet it is not the Bible next to his bed.

Now CJW, let the games begin. Age level should shine here right quick.

Obama wins a second term...not even a nice thought on where America will be headed.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 4:19 PM

OM, just what do you believe is next to his bed??

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 4:34 PM

It aint the Bible...nor a good ole American dirty magazine!

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 4:36 PM

Lamont: You need to read some more if you think the only one convicted was a republican from the mid-west. Also,USA Today says 24 million voter registrations are in question.

-- Posted by skeeter on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM

OM, nice non answer.

Buckshot, where did I ever say the liberals or Democrats were the majority? I didn't. I simply posed the question of what if the majority of voters re-elected the President and possibly the Democrats holding the Senate.

Will you accept the election?

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:32 PM

Hahahahaha! Sorry guys, I've got tears rolling down my face... That was freaking funny!

Thanks for the laugh, Buckshot!

-- Posted by KentuckyTransplant on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:47 PM

HE WAS TALKING TO ME ROY....I JUST DIVIDED THE COUNTRY IN HALF BECAUSE ON SOME ISSUES PEOPLE ARE CONSERVATIVE AND SOME THERE LIBERAL. THEY PASS BACK AND FORTH NO SWEET I WASNT LOOKING FOR AND ARGUMENT.SO if that is what you want argue with yourself.I do get tired of the accusations and the gutter comments.bribed,sleazy,stupidty,scum,etc funny thing the so called liberal socialist here are not using those terms on a every post level must be something about them.....hmmmmmmmmm

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:52 PM

Buckshot, if it were the will of the voters, I would be bound by the Constitution to accept it, except both you and I know that Mickey Mouse isn't eligible. Nice try though.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:56 PM

OM, a question, are you Orthodox, Ultra-Orthodox or Reformed?? Do you keep a kosher kitchen?

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 5:58 PM

I don't think that's such a "fairly simple question" - not where politics is involved and the candidate with the most money and media behind him has a great advantage. And that would be Obama. I prey that he doesn't get re-elected. I would hope that none of us who believe that Obama and his Obamabots will destroy this country if given another four years will sit back and accept it.

-- Posted by Second Wind on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 7:03 PM

HAIL HAIL.....BUCKSHOT.......ADJECTIVE AND CHIEF........and now for the adjective of the day..........you are entertaining........ O' Rielley is better though.HIS WORDS ARE WORTH KNOWING........

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 7:17 PM

Roy:

Why do you ask?

I thought my response to the Obama question was pretty straight forward given the events of the last week. Ok. Not a Bible. For SURE not a Torah. Hint: something that was burned last week and has made international news.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 7:28 PM

BUCKSHOT......I HAVE HAD FAR BETTER THAN YOU AND YOURS TRY TO BREAK ME........WONT HAPPEN..... BUT YOU CAN TRY.....AGAIN YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BOW TO YOUR IDEAOLOGY..... ABSOLUTLY NOT.....SO KEEP TRYING.....YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH. THIS ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO THE PLAYGROUNDS OF N.Y. OR AMERICAN SOCIETY......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Feb 27, 2012, at 8:43 PM

I think everyone should have to have a photo ID when they vote. It only makes sense to me... AND if I had to show proof I was a resident of Idaho to get a fishing license, I should have to show a photo ID when I vote and my name should be in that book they have showing I am a registered voter..

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 9:08 AM

I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK BUCKSHOT......WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT IS VERY APPARENT.......ALL YOU NEED IS A PODIUM

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 9:48 AM

FUNNY DIDNT MENTION YOUR COLOR OR RACE BUCKSHOT SO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOURSELF.SO IF YOUR CALLING ME A RACIST THAT IS A JOKE AND IT'S ON YOU.BY A FEW THINGS I GUESS YOU MEAN THE RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE AGENDA........WRONG.I SAID IT BEFORE .IF YOUR THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THAT GROUP I WILL PASS.

-- Posted by lamont on Tue, Feb 28, 2012, at 2:39 PM

Roy: a simple answer to your question is: Yes, we would have "a government by the people".

To say otherwise would be ignoring the facts.

-- Posted by bondyweb on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 8:14 AM

I wonder that myself, Mr. Pratt. I often believe that those who are most vocal in decrying another's political beliefs are those who really never listen to other view points. They think the majority of America agrees with THEM because the majority of their own sample of acquaintances agrees with them.

Me? I think Obama has been disastrous for this country, but only because he's been the Republican party's biggest blessing. They've gotten most of everything they've wanted under him. And the Democrats hardly put up a fight because they think he on their side. Republicans just can't lose this way! Another four years of Obama is just what the Republicans should be praying for!

-- Posted by Cellarhuk on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM

Interesting point of view Cellarhuk.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 2:01 PM

CELLARHUK........IT IS AND INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW ....one I remember someone else advocating.There is a lot of merit to what you say.I said it before on some issue there needs to be a fight to get to the real solution,and on that the PRESIDENT has been WEAK.For me our law makers have abdegated there responsibilty's to facilitate there re elction .....that is on both sides of the aisle.THE RESULTS is you and I pay for there inaction.THEY ARE SO FAR REMOVED FROM OUR REALITY THEY ARE NOT EQUIPED TO GOVERN..... ALL OF THEM.....MY THOUGHTS

-- Posted by lamont on Wed, Feb 29, 2012, at 4:05 PM


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