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I guess you could call this a lesson in the REAL world

Posted Saturday, October 29, 2011, at 9:01 PM

I read a lot on the net. Almost any subject will catch my attention. This article was about unemployed veterans. The article was O.K., but what caught my attention were the comments and replies. These are just the first few.

next time the US government decides to have a war:
1. Levy a tax to fund it.
2. Draft citizens to serve in the military, including politicians and thier families (with only specific age and medical exceptions)
In this way, we will find out just how committed to military operations and extended deployments the country is.
Our volunteer military is doing a fantastic job, but I think it's easier today for politicians to use the all volunteer military when the is no chance that the average citizen or politicians kid will ever have to sacrifice in the way our current military members have to.
I know this is unrelated to the article, but what the heck.

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    Mark  *  Denver, United States  *  6 hours ago Report Abuse

    So many here think the BENEFITS to the military are like those to Congress and the Senate. You better get your head out of the sand because they are no where close at all.
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    O24z  *  Boston, United States  *  5 hours ago Report Abuse

    Make everyone serve for 2 years like Israel does.
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    Jimmy  *  Mandeville, United States  *  6 hours ago Report Abuse

    From a 20 Year VET, retired 7 1/2 years ago...get all the schooling that you can prior to getting out, get as much college related credit for military skills prior to getting out, attend any available TAP class, network as much as possible. For those vets in mid level positions in the civilian sector, do your best to hire vets...we know that they bring great skills to the table. It can be done, you just have to prepare at least a year prior to sep, not the month before. Visit your base college office to have your skills reviewed and apply to a college for credit of those skills. Use your TA and GI Bill as soon as possible. It's your money, use it when you need it. Good luck.
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  • Jarhead1

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    Jarhead1  *  New York, United States  *  6 hours ago Report Abuse

    "Listen to Col. Jessup's rant in "A Few Good Men" ....when he's on the stand...."you want us on that wall".....however, when we come home you don't give a #$%$ about us as veterans. Been that way since at least Vietnam. And don't tell a potential employer that yoiu were in the infantry/Marine Corps/and sniper is a job killer. They are scared #$%$less of you. But the next time around, and there always will be.....they scream about get out there and protect us.....and we will give you medals while it's going on....but when you come home...they will not know you! It ain't gonna change.
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    Harry  *  Guaymas, Mexico  *  7 hours ago Report Abuse

    My advise to people in the military. Stay in the military. There are no jobs outside for you. You are guaranteed employment and full medical benefits and retirement. All this "I am so proud of you serving the country" is a crock of crap. Private companies could care diddly about your service to the country. They are in business to make money and not to offer service to their country.
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      AK 5 hours ago Report Abuse

      Well, most private companies do recognize the experience, but because Americans are so obsessed with certifications and licenses, why not grant the same licenses and certifications to people who in the military had better training that that of a college course? By the way, what the hell do you... More
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      Say Ra 5 hours ago Report Abuse

      That's crap. We hire people everyday with the skills, they aquired in service. Make no mistake about it, American employers do care, and give military service every consideration it deserves.
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      Plantbofo 2 hours ago Report Abuse

      Say Ra,
      I wish you were right but some employers really don't care. The best thing I would suggest to any servicemember, especially if they're not going to stay in the DC area, is to get a college degree, in service or soon after you get out. In many situations since I retired, I've found that having at least one degree in anything, along with the military experience, goes a long way towards giving you the edge you need. It doesn't make sense, but you have to play the game by 'their' rules now.

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    Dayton, United States  *  6 hours ago Report Abuse

    There are no jobs for anyone who isn't just out of college and willing to work for peanuts. It doesn't matter whether you went to school or the military, the jobs aren't there. Staying in the military as long as you can is excellent advice. There are some contract and private industry positions in the Intelligence area, but budget cuts are going to hit that area hard.
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    Joe 7 hours ago Report Abuse

    Nothing new here. Vets from all our wars have had trouble fitting back into civilian life. It takes time and patience. You also may need to move to where the work is, something I did after my Vietnam service ended. Couldn't buy a job in Michigan then, so went to Texas (a mistake), then Colorado. I also went to college a couple of years later and got a job in Florida after graduating. Never looked back!
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    Rev Leo  *  Burlington, United States  *  7 hours ago Report Abuse

    I had the same problem 37 years ago, couldn't even get a job as a car salesman. 20 service in the Navy
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      Paakahili  *  Honolulu, United States  *  3 hours ago Report Abuse

      So back in the days before everything was made in China and elsewhere, when there was tons of industry still left in America, you couldn't find any job after doing 20 years in the Navy? Oh, my. Where the heck were you trying at?

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    THE draft should be reinstated,then and only then will the sharing of responsibilty be anywhere equal.The only exceptions should be age and medical.If the priveleged and poleticians kids had to serve they wouldnt be so apt to sacrifice ours.28yrs16days a recall notice 2 yrs latter and I still have to pay for things that I WAS ASSURED WOULD BE THERE.HOW about Americans take notice of something other than just there pocket books and stand up for what is right.You would think our young people and soldiers are worth standing for.

    -- Posted by lamont on Mon, Oct 31, 2011, at 10:20 PM

    Thanks lamont.

    -- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Nov 1, 2011, at 7:23 AM


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