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If you can't take the heat Pt2

Posted Wednesday, August 31, 2011, at 4:19 PM

I have taken some heat lately due to my opinions on certain issues. As the old saying goes, If you can't take the heat, then stay out of the kitchen.

Well, I'm still in the kitchen as you can tell.

The heat I'm talking about today is my opinion that, we as the taxpayer, have a right to dictate what items can be bought by people getting assistance, which we pay for with our tax dollars.

Fact: Food stamps for one adult and one child is $367.00

I'm not sure what the figure is for 2 adults and 1 child. (That's me)

Fact: My budget for food each month is $300.00

Would I like to have more? Of course I would, but we don't qualify for food assistance.

My grandson does qualify for Medicaid thank god. His 2 meds cost over $1500 a month for generics. That cost is small compared to the alternative which would be a lifetime of incarceration. He suffers from bi-polar disorder.

So just how does one feed 2 adults and a growing 16 year old boy you might ask? I do my major shopping once a month, I have a freezer in the garage and a pantry in the garage and I have no problem with going to the day old bake store.

This is my shopping list so far this month

Whole chickens4Winco
Bulk Pasta6 LbsWinco
Bulk Sugar10 LbsWinco
Bulk Parmesan Cheese1 LbWinco
Bulk Gravy MixWinco
Bulk Corn StarchWinco
Bulk Rice3 LbWinco
Bulk Potato FlakesWinco
PorkWinco
SausagesWinco
Cayenne Pepper BulkWinco

Walmart GV brand when possible

Rice a Roni10
Chili6
Pasta Sauce6
Diced Tomatoes6 + 6
Corn Bread Mix6
Ground Turkey6 Lbs
Tortillas2 16 packs
Chorizo4
Southern Hash Browns6
Hamburgers1 Bag
Mayo1 Lg
Catsup1 Lg
Mustard1+1 Lg
Eggs5 dozen
Oil1 gal
Stir Fry2
Soy Sauce2
Imperial1
Steak Sauce2
Cup of Noodles24
Cream of Mushroom 6
Red Potatoes5 Lbs
Baby Carrots4 Lbs
French Fries3
Canned Corn4
Bulk Sausage1 Lbs
Milk 1 Gal
Cereal2 Bags
Apple Sauce2

Pauls

Hamburger20 lbs

I'm not sorry that I feel that given my budget and what I'm able to do with it, I should have some say in how others spend my money.


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Anyone who abdicates their personal responsibility to defend themselves to a government, is actively deciding to be a subject; and not a freeman. Crimes against persons are rarely committed in the presence of law enforcement officers...the victims are usually selected because they appear defenseless. For this reason alone, a freeman should pack heat; and a government of free citizens should not impair this right. I'm with Zook on this one: legal or not, I'm an armed citizen...not a subject.

I'll speculate that Hewbet's concern with "gun rights" may have a bit to do with his previous relationship with the justice system. On the other hand, I could not care less about people who choose to smoke weeds. Tax it or fine its use, but stop locking granny up for gettin' high in the comfort of her own home.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 6:56 PM

There is a big difference between legalizing pot and the right to have a gun. A right to have a gun is a right in our founding papers. The right to do dope is not. A lot of the left would prefer it was reversed in the constitution, a right to smoke dope as long as no one has the right to own a gun. Be a lot easier to control the ruled that way.

-- Posted by skeeter on Sun, Sep 11, 2011, at 11:24 AM

I did drug and alcohol counciling as part of my duties.........The only place we saw laced MJ was in NAMM.tHEY LACED IT TO HOOK THE GI'S SO THEY WOULD BUY MORE.....WE TAUGHT THEM CAPITALISM,ENTPRENAUERSHIP.tHey WERE GOOD AT AT.it was a small part of the majority because the stuff over there was triple the strenght of street stuff in the statesMost people could take a couple of hits and they were good for hours.So 1 joint a day was enough.heroin was plentifull so they would lace it with red rock heroin crushed up.Bad scene we had guys hooked and they didnt even know it till a piss test.THC content inthe states about 3%...budda grass about 9-10% consistently.

Straight M,J IS NOT WORTH THE PROSECUTION COST AND TROUBLE.BUT WE ARE GOING DOWN THE ROAD OF PROHIBITION.I HOPE WE WAKE UP SOON ON THIS ONE WE COULD USE THE MONEY.....SMILE.(being vacicous)

KH GAL there has been many trends of thought on this matter...I am telling real life experience as we saw it daily,and we saw a lot.We even stoped giving bad conduct discharges for MJ got to a point were we gave general discharges it was not worth the appeals and lawyers and a host of other things, better to just let them go more cost effective.At one time it would get you 3 yrs hard time in leavenworth.Some times the military moves faster than the civilian world,and they usually contrary to popular belief get it right........have a good one

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Sep 10, 2011, at 12:12 AM

And Thank you, Hewbet for your post!!! I am doing my best get it legalized in Idaho!!! ......;))

-- Posted by homee on Fri, Sep 9, 2011, at 10:17 AM

There are only 2 "got to's" in life: You got to live, and you got to die...everything in between is based on choice.

Zook, "Benefits" are not "Welfare". I know the difference; I've been paying for my "benefits" for nearly as long as you have. A steady theme throughout our dialogue has been that anything the government permits, it can also deny. Whether or not you receive benefits or welfare in the future is subject to the will of the people, aka voters. How much you did or did not contribute to either, means nothing after the vote.

If your military retirement is a "contracted compensation", then what makes that any different than any other Union "contracted compensation" which so many of you uber-conservatives think should be cancelled for the good of...whatever?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Sep 8, 2011, at 7:20 PM

Poison Ivy is given to us by God too, but it doesn't mean that it won't harm you in some way.

They lace the MJ with so many chemicals for the ultimate high, that it is dangerous. and damage to nerves and chromosomes of future generations has been debated for over 30 years.

I sat on a drug panel in high school after researching this. And 35 years later, it is even worse because of the chemicals.

So I respectfully disagree with you. It is like any other drug or alchol problem. Some people never have problems at all and others are slaves to life for the want of a substance that eventually kills you.

-- Posted by KH Gal on Wed, Sep 7, 2011, at 11:23 AM

Roy, thank you very much for your post!!! I could not agree with you more!! And very well said.

-- Posted by homee on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 9:56 PM

homee, As I have said on another blog, I just can't remember which one at the moment, I do advocate the legalization of certain drugs, and marijuana is one of them. I do this for 2 reasons, the first being that history has shown you can't make a problem go away by prohibiting it. That only leads to illegal activity,coupled with human misery. I view marijuana as possibly less destructive than alcohol which is legal. I can speak to the destructive nature of alcohol with some authority. I am a recovering alcoholic who is coming up on 18 months of sobriety the 26th of this month. Second, legalizing and regulating and taxing of marijuana would generate a significant amount of tax revenues as well as saving the state an enormous amount of money spent incarcerating the small time user. I am not a religious person, but I heard someone say something that I took as being very profound. If marijuana were so bad, why did God give it to man. It is not manufactured, but grows wild. It's hard to argue with that logic.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM

Roy, I have enjoyed your post on the blogs. I was wondering.... you being from California.....what do you think about the legalization on marijuana or medicial marijuana to defere state taxes?

-- Posted by homee on Tue, Sep 6, 2011, at 12:38 PM

Okay Zook,

Who are you to tell the rest of America where the Government spreads the common wealth. The last I heard, it was one man one vote.

You are right in one regard...this is America, and I can contribute to anything I choose. However, when it comes to taxes, unless you're collecting cash under the table, it shouldn't be a surprise to you that the government redistributes what you voluntarily claimed as a cut of your income.

If you don't want to live with that, then feel free to exercise your option: drop out. Don't cash your social security, medicare, military retirement, or any other goverment inspired benefit programs. Or, like most of us Americans, vote for the crooks who best support your point of view.

It is not THEFT when you agree to handing over the cash.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 5:55 PM

I will continue to stand by the LDS model.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 4:16 PM

When the government confiscates money from one person and gives that money to another person strings need to be attached for the use of that money. When I give money to another person it's my business.

-- Posted by skeeter on Sun, Sep 4, 2011, at 6:00 AM

Too much judgement for me, Roy. Expectations, whether it be gratitude or a lesson learned for a gift, is called an investment. Gifts, aka charity, is unconditional. Not knowing the difference, is giving something with strings attached.

I do believe in "charity." I don't like government waste; but I've known more people who were appreciative of charity than those who took advantage of it. I also know a lot more people who, when given a hand up, repaid more generously than any one could have imagined...some of them donate more to charity, not government, than you or I will ever gross.

Roy, I think if you can't give unconditionally, then, you're not giving.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Sat, Sep 3, 2011, at 6:12 PM

JYD, If you have read my other comments on my blogs as well as others blogs, I do not believe in "charity", at least when it comes to the peoples tax dollars. When something is provided it is only right and proper to have certain expectations. When a person gives out of their own pocket, that is an entirely different situation. I am a great proponent of the LDS model, but not the church. To simply give a hand out reduces the receivers humanity and self respect, as well as teaching them to become dependent on others. There are cases, such as small children and those who are severely disabled that lack the ability to give something back. Giving back can be as simple as going to a homeless shelter or seniors center and helping serve or clean up.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 6:33 PM

Every one of us, including the atheists, should start each morning with a prayer asking for protection from do-gooders, the self righteous, and the well intentioned folks who just want us to do what they think is best for us.

Nobody, except maybe our sainted moms, should ever be allowed to give us a gift, and then, demand how we should use it. Really people, telling folks how and what to eat as a condition for receiving charity? Don't we have enough problems of our own to solve?

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 5:49 PM

Yes, we could all used some lessons in nutrition. We get so busy and it is more convenient to get something fast.

Greed is the the number one problem in the world today. Greed for wealth, power and territory.

Men meet behind closed doors to shift natural balances all the time. The big surprise that is in store for them is that God is on to them and they really do not have a chance. They may be winning the battle, but the war has a positive outcome if you believe in a Higher Power.

-- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 2:22 PM

KH Gal, because the people in power are being bribed too well.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 1:00 PM

While I agree that there are too many packaged and processed foods, I have to balance my schedule, my wife's schedule and the fact that my grandson is just now learning how to cook. The last one is not my fault. A garden would be nice if I had the time during growing season, but that is also my busiest time of the year coupled with 3 escape artist dogs to keep out of the garden. We do get treats now and then. They are not part of my basic shopping list. We don't buy chips or soda or bottled water. We do drink kool-aid. I do keep the things needed for rice-a-roni, and do make it from scratch when time allows.

KH Gal, with what our public officials make, they have no business going out to eat on our dime. And these fund raisers, money corrupts politics, plain and simple. Legalized bribery. Same for PAC's.

I guess the point I've tried to make is that food stamps are for food, not empty calories that seem to lead to obesity, the effects of which we get to pay for also.

In 16 months when I retire (sort of), I will have the time to garden and cook from scratch. One of the things I do miss about the part of California I lived in, were the massive fields of processing tomatoes, AKA Romas. I was always out there to glean.

I still like the course Terry Reilly offers for free. They take people to Winco and Walmart and teach them to shop and budget. A classroom is just not the same thing.

-- Posted by royincaldwell on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 12:57 PM

The General Accounting Office announced that 4 Billion dollars were being wasted on programs for Education benefits for teachers, the same program in several different agencies without oversight as to whether the programs are sucessful. They said that Each Grade School and Middle School could have 55 new computers with the waste in spending there.

This doesn't even cover what programs are duplicated in bureaucratic agencies. there is where the real waste is going on. We wouldn't even have to cut any social programs, just make everything more efficient.

The General Accounting Agency is non-political by the way. They just keep the books. Why isn't someone listening to them and their recomendations?

-- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 12:53 PM

Seems you can't win Roy. You can't suggest what welfare people eat and anybody on this blog can tell you what to eat.

-- Posted by arsenal on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 11:46 AM

I don't think we the tax payers should knit pick what someone who receives food stamps can buy.

Gosh poor people like ice cream and candy just as much as others.

What needs to be done before they are given food stamps is a class on nutrition and budgeting and they should have free babysitting for the kids in the same building the class is held.

Roy you need to try and eliminate the processed food in your diet. Besides everything cooked from scratch is so much better tasting then what comes out of a box.

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 10:41 AM

While I don't advocate lots of processed stuff, I must tell you that sometimes when you make a judgement concerning the person who is checking out in front of you. Keep in mind, that their children deserve a treat once in a while.

I do think that they should have to attend classes on proper nutrition. But then again, they would have to get vouchers for babysitting. And there goes the savings right there.

It is always something and right now we are all a bit upset about how the economy is going and having to tighten our own belts.

So, I ask you to examine it from the top down. The elected officials who dine on our dime probably spend more than what we spend on a month of groceries for one meal. They also have expense accounts that are larger than any welfare recipients monthly income.

If they are saying that we are broke, then someone on the top needs to make the first sacrifices. No more parties, trips or padded expense accounts.

Lets look at it this way instead. For all the welfare and foodstamp recipients in the US probably don't even come close to the excessive lifestyles of our elected officials.

And if we really want to go even further, don't you think that $35,000 a plate is excessive too? or $1,000.00? These people can deduct this expense from charitible donations at the end of the year.

There are many people on assistance that have never had to be there before. The real waste is not some junkfood at the grocery store, it lies squarely on the steps of the Capitol.

-- Posted by KH Gal on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 10:21 AM


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I'm an almost 61 year old transplant from California 6 1/2 years ago. I work in road construction, those dastardly flaggers. My family roots go back to New England farms, not the big city. The last town I lived in when in California grew from 16K to 40K in 10 years, and that was enough to drive me out. I don't engage in or tolerate name calling. Name calling reduces an adult discussion to grade school play yard level. I have never served in the military, but have family members who have, dating back to WW1. I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. I am neither extremely Liberal or Conservative. I am raising my 16 year old grandson, not what I expected at this age, and dealing with those issues as well as my health and near retirement which are 2 things I intend to talk about. I decided to try my hand at this thanks to the warm welcome I have received on Mike's blog. When I take a position, I will defend it until I am shown that I am mistaken, and when that happens, I apologize. There are other things about me that will come out over time I'm sure.