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Governor Paul LePage on Obamacare And MORE TaxesPosted Sunday, July 8, 2012, at 9:09 AM
Chill The "Frak" Out---It Is Just More Taxes!
Governor Paul LePage of Maine is making news for allegedly referring to the IRS as the "new Gestapo" Saturday, after blasting the president's overhaul of our health care system.
He reportedly said: This tax will add to the $500 billion in tax increases that are already in Obamacare. Now that Congress can use the taxation power of the federal government to compel behavior or lack thereof, what's next? More taxes if we don't drive Toyota Priuses or if we eat too much junk food or maybe even pea soup?
This decision has made America less free. 'We The People' have been told there is no choice. You must buy health insurance or pay the new Gestapo -- the I.R.S.
Even more disheartening is that reviving the American dream just became nearly impossible to do. We are now a nation in which supports dependency rather than independence. Instead of encouraging self-reliance we are encouraging people to rely on the government. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Self reliance is a joke today. Big business and big money control every aspect of our lives. They own the government and will not give up that ownership without a fight. Everyday they figure out how to squeeze the common citizen to increase the bottom line to ever higher record profits. They have no allegiance to any country, only the bottom line. The lawyers and insurance companies fear national health insurance because it will put a big dent in their life styles. Life styles paid for by us!
Do you enjoy paying for their life styles???
Force me to pay a "tax" on something I didn't buy but, don't force me to show ID to vote. Anyone else see this admin. as bassackwards?
Roy, as far as big business and it's squeeze, no one has a squeeze on anyone if they don't allow it. What you are suggesting is that people are slaves. You got that wrong. These lawyers and insurance companies that you say have such great lifestyles atleast give you a choice of whether or not to purchase their product. What makes people a slave is when you have no choice but to do something. Kind of like purchase healthcare "or else."
He's not a popular Governor and Maine regrets voting him in.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/...
Obomination Care Is Class Warfare That Will Ignite A Mass TAX REVOLT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrcOnGqx_...
And Obama is a horrid POTUS that many regret voting for. With politicians, there is ALWAYS regret because they are liars, cheats and thieves. The difference is that most of these other politicians do not bow to other "leaders," say they are sorry for "their people," fear the American Flag, take issue with the Bible, bed down with the devil (with an open mic) and LIE about their heritage. Those are just a few of the differences.
Yep, keep those blinders on. It just proves how truly ignorant you really are.
Keith, I was referring to the trial lawyers, the ambulance chasers you see all over TV. Just who do you think pays for all those huge judgments? Are some justified, YUP! Just look at GSK, only in that case the reasonable lawyer fees were paid to the government.
Look at wages and benefits in this state. They SUCK! You can't tell me the major employers aren't enjoying record profits at the employees expense. Do you get health insurance at work? Be thankful your wife gets the benefits she does. My wife gets benefits, but I can't afford the 8K a year to join in.
In the long run, everybody pays for the uninsured, one way or the other. That is just a fact of life.
The biggest focus of national health insurance is preventive medicine, don't let them get deathly ill before they show up at the ER.
National health insurance spreads the cost of risk across the population, just like state mandated car insurance is supposed to. A healthy population is a productive population. Go to WallyWorld and look at some of those people who are so obese that they can't walk and need O2. Who do you think is paying for that????
It's not a matter of if it's going to cost you, it's when and how.
We have the worlds most expensive health care system, but yet we have an obscene number of people who are obese, diabetic, etc.
Would you like to backup all your accusations OM?
Specifics please. We all know about the open mike comment, but no one knows what it really meant. Remember what you said about politicians.
KT, you are 100% correct...but "they" will never get it. Never! If you can't afford insurance because you have no job or make very little...not likely you will be able to pay this "tax" either. So then what?
Employers out there have decided to only employ part time employees. Many have also elected not to pay work comp insurance in an effort to save some money. Some employers even pay their employees with bad checks. So, how is all of this extra "crap" helping to create jobs again?
Not having workmans comp is illegal, but hey, that capitalism at it's best. Screw the law, profit comes first.
The thing is, I hear people talking all the time about how they can not afford health insurance. Those same people are probably some of healthiest people I know. They know that if they get sick or get fat, they are going to have to foot the bill. Now on the other hand, you take someone who doesn't care about taking care of themself because they have "free" healthcare and... you can see where I'm going with this. Where does personal responsibility kick in? With all do respect, just because you or someone else can't afford healthcare, that means I have to foot the bill? I'm not a cold hearted person and would gladly help anyone in need. But I wish this freaking administration would leave that choice up to me. Just because someone chose to take a job that didn't offer benefits or chose not to go to college and get a good job so they could get insurance, it's not my fault. People can cry all day long about not being able to get those "good" jobs that offer benefits or the lack of jobs. I totally understand that but, I also understand that there are/were more options. One could have went into the military. I can not blame or expect someone to pay for the CHOICES I made. This is becoming a country of punks and sissys. We are giving out "participation" ribbons in school. Why should little Johnny try to run real fast if he knows he's going to get the same award that Tommy got for first place? We are starting this bullcrap from an early age and it's getting pretty old.
You will pay the final cost, be it taxes, higher premiums, higher co-pays, higher RX costs. That's the thing the right doesn't seem to get.
You never did answer about if you get health insurance through work, or what you think of wages here.
By the time those healthy people get sick, the cost will bankrupt them and their family, and you and me still end up footing some of the costs. That's reality.
No comment on your social comment.
Amen KT!
Roy, it is also illegal for Congress to make themselves exempt from Obamacare...but they did it. If it is SOOOOOOOOOOO great then why do they not want to be a part of the same plan? If it is good enough for many Americans then it sure as heck is good enough for used up ole Nancy. Right?
"You will pay the final cost, be it taxes, higher premiums, higher co-pays, higher RX costs. That's the thing the right doesn't seem to get."-- Posted by royincaldwell on Sun, Jul 8, 2012, at 12:33 PM
Before this healthcare was forced down peoples throats, we had a choice. We didn't have to pay that "final cost" if we didn't want to. Now there are going to be over 16,000 extra IRS agents making sure we do. I can't remember the last time I had to buy an RX because I was sick. And if I do, I am choosing to do so and pay elevated cost or I can choose not to. See what I'm saying?
Roy, as far as insurance at my job, yes they offer it but, I do not get it. I just started about 45 days ago and there is a 90 day probation period. After that is up, I will opt out of their insurance. I already have insurance and will choose to keep that. At the engineering company that I worked for in Ohio, until we moved, they actually paid me for opting out of their insurance :) I hated moving and leaving that job.
I don't think the wages here are too bad. The job that I just got, started me out at about what the engineering comapny started me out at. Of course there are going to be your lower paying jobs but, it's up to the people if they want to take them or not. It's also up to people to make their own life decisions, or it used to be that way. Before you go buying that fancy house, or having that kid, or buying that new car, people should think about their future and what "could" happen. My wife and I have decided not to have a kid until we can damn well afford him/her. We've also decided to make sure that she has completed school and that we've done all the silly stuff that we want to. These are all choices that WE decided on. Now that the govt. is willing to foot the bill for a baby, give me foodstamps if I don't work, and start spreading these rich folks money around, I may just have to take them up on that.
Free healthcare my butt..... Free for who? If it's so free, why were there 16,000 new agents hired to make sure someone pays? It's almost funny when ya think about it lol.
The government is going to make health care affordable? The government has already made health care so expensive by paying high prices to providers for people who never worked or took advantage of hand outs. If someone thinks government involvement is going to lower costs of anything they get involved with, they are not living in the real world. Big government is the problem.
Got private insurance? Even before the healthcare act, premiums were going up at an alarming rate. Private pay? Doc's and hospitals prices going up all the time. Charity care. Just who do you think pays for that? The charity fairy? Family coverage through the military? That's taxpayer money baby.Sit down and look at the whole picture. There ain't no free lunch. If you want to leave the sick and dying on the streets, I suggest you have a nice long read of your bible, you know, that pesky part about being your brothers keeper.
I never supported the law as written. It would have been so much easier to rewrite the Medicare law and eliminating the age part. Neat, clean and simple. Increase the medicare tax everyone pays and no upper income limit like social security. If you want to buy extra private insurance to get extra goodies, feel free.
Talk about putting the ambulance chasers out of business, real tort reform. Limits on fees for the kinds of cases they file. The lawyer gets 50%, give me a freaking break! That's why doctors malpractice insurance can run 250K a year. Guess who pays that? Bingo, you do!
Stop the rhetoric, if you have a better idea, present it. No 30 second sound bites. Flesh it out. Explain it in plain English.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/20...
You know, this kind of reminds me of my discussions with Mike about reducing the deficit. All the things he complains about, and most of which I agree with, amount to less than 10% of the deficit.
So please, specifics please!
It's all a liberal lie MsM. :-)
"National health insurance spreads the cost of risk across the population, just like state mandated car insurance is supposed to." -- posted by Roy in Caldwell.
Heavy on the SUPPOSED TO part, Roy.
Government mandated auto insurance goes back well over 3 decades, maybe 4. Started down in California as I recall. And in many states, there are more people without "minimum" auto insurance than there are without health insurance.
"Wages suck here."
And how's your auto insurance premium here in Idaho compared to Kalifornia, Roy. Gas prices in Kal are around 10% higher than ours. Property taxes are higher than ours. Per square foot property prices are higher than ours. Just like they were when you sold out down there and moved here.
Costa Rica here I come.
I have a better plan..... If you want healthcare, pay for it. If you don't want healthcare, don't pay for it. Healthcare is not a God given right. Talk about being your brothers keeper, how about being your own keeper? If you're obese, stop cramming cookies in your mouth. If you're pregnant and can't afford to pay for it, maybe you should keep your legs closed. Is your liver failing because of alcoholism? Well you might want to quit drinking. If people stopped worrying about everyone else and worried about themselves, they would be a lot better off. So not only do I have to worry about how I eat and am taking care of my body, I have to worry about Fat Frankie down the road and how much he is going to cost me.
You're right, in my opinion people should have healthcare..... BUT, that's my opinion. I'm not going to tell you that you HAVE TO or ELSE!
The funny thing about this "Free" healthcare is, where is all of the money going to come from? You talk about the strain on the system by people who don't have healthcare. How when ever they get sick we have to pay for it via inflated hospital and doctor prices. Most people with no insurance only go to the hospital out of neccesity. Can you imagine the strain and cost now that people have this "free" healthcare? They are going to be making visits to the ER everytime they get a tickle in their throat.
This healthcare would lessen visits to the ER, not increase them. Many go to the ER, because it's provider of last resort. And a darn expensive provider.
Warren, the price of real estate in Cal. has plunged. Price of gas, look to those mysterious outages at refineries. When I left Cal., the state gas tax was less than here I believe. Auto ins, somewhat less. Property taxes, about the same for where I lived.
When you have 30+ million people competing for housing, of course the square foot cost is higher.
Idaho has a lower minimum wage and a higher percentage of workers making minimum wage.
Wages have plunged since I moved here. Why is that?
Still no specifics. WHY?
And as far as " Family coverage through the military? That's taxpayer money baby."
You're right, it is taxpayer money. But I believe the taxpayer is getting a good return on his investment. It's the military that keeps us free to make ignorant comments like that. I apologize if I took that comment the wrong way but, I didn't see you making any jabs at firefighters or cops insurance.
It's not like it's a freaking handout or a cakewalk job.
I apologize for getting mad on your blog OM. On that note, I'm gonna go have myself a cold beer and relax for a little bit :) Yall have a good day :)
Never said it was, but it's no minimum wage job either. Most firefighters and cops pay into the cost of their insurance and pension, not enough, but at least they pay into it.
So, just what is the rights solution to the healthcare crisis in this country?
Buckshot, just what part of offer solutions not rhetoric do you not grasp. You are all cut and paste and 30 second sound bites. Not an original thought ever. Do you or do you not have a suggested solution for this failure called healthcare in America?
I think Brenda just might be right about feeding the troll.
First off Roy---my health insurance through the military is not "free" or paid for by you---it is paid for with my husband's low wages. It is paid for by the mostly sub-standard doctors that treat many of us (not called the base medical hobby shop for no reason). It is paid for by the months on end that our spouses end up gone/away. It is paid for by the many, many hours of OT that are put in and NOT paid. It is paid for by all of the holidays worked, births missed, birthdays missed, etc. It is paid for by all of the injections of God knows what that these people are injected with over the course of their time in the military. It is paid for with the weeks and weeks of no contact with a loved one. It is paid for by the late night calls from the Base because there is a "problem." It is paid for with all of the 12+ hour shifts during an "exercise" or because someone just can't do theri job. It is paid for with the back-to-back deployments/TDY's that keep many of these "enlisted" away more than they are home. It is paid for with the really crappy way some of these people come home---and are never "right" again but the Government says they are fine and provide no help/medical treatment for them. It is paid for with the MANY, MANY sleepless nights that we spend wondering if a loved one is okay because the evening news was not so good. It is paid for every time the news announces another local person has died and you wonder if this will be the day. Or how about the cancers these folks have come home with but the Government says it is not their problem? When you do the math, the guys and gals that fight for your freedoms (to say the stupid things that you do) make way less than minimum wage and work harder in their service time THAN YOU WILL IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE!! You entitled, ungreatful, direspectful, arrogant bafoon!
On a side note, spouses do not get "free" dental. There is a premium for that each month and there is a yearly cap on coverage and coverage is fairly limited. We also have no coverage for glasses---we get one exam per year and are on our own for contacts and glasses. All of this for service 24 hours a day, 365 days per year---rain or shine---bombs bursting in air, etc.
Yep, great deal Roy. You never would have made it---you are too much of a candy...
KT, no harm. I am glad some can see the light on this. Buckshot, dead on as always.
Here is your solution to the healthcare problem. Regulate premium costs. No more billions and billions to pharmacy. No more donations to politicians. No more lobbyists. Welfare for a very limited time and get a JOB! If you can't afford to have kids---then you do not have kids. PERIOD! Bring jobs back to the US so people are employed for a living wage. No more bailouts and paying a company to move overseas/out of US. Foodstamps---limited time. WIC---can't afford to have a kid...no need for WIC.
Now, with people employed---there is less need for government intervention and mandated health coverage. And WHY will we still have Medicaid if insurance will be MANDATED?!?!? Kind of a duplication there. We need to get back to the way it used to be. A Government mandate will not fix what is wrong till the insurance industry and pharmacy are regulated. Till then, this is all for naught and just another "revenue enhancment" (thanks Zook, I stole your term) program for an already very wasteful Government. And you expect them to take care of you? With a medical program they do not even want to be a part of. Priceless!!
So Roy, tell me again how "free" my insurance is and how much YOUR lazy butt does for me. Did I cover it all for you?
KT, Eagle and Zook did I cover how great things are? What did I miss?
Looks good to me OM, nothing to add at this time but I am sure Pratt who never wore the uniform or had to deal with what the military folks do on a daily routine can come up with all kinds of excuses to why we didn't earn the small amount of benfits we do get. We that have served kinda worked under what was suppose to be a contract and took the oath to defend and give you others the right to do what you do because we gave you that right. Even retired vet's had to pay for health coverage until 65 then its medicare and military tri care and we still pay for the medicare and the Government is trying to set up for next year to make us pay for military coverage for those over 65.
And here we go with the language. Can we not be adults and leave the bad language out of this? What if a young child reads this?
My my OM, we seem to agree on a great number of points! I must admit that regulating insurance companies, penalizing companies for moving jobs offshore, donations to politicians, lobbyist, bailouts doesn't sound like the standard fare I've heard from others here. Sure doesn't sound like Buckshot, where the bottom line is all that counts.
I apologize for the comment about the military, but I had to rattle someones cage enough to offer clear solutions without the rhetoric.
We agree on food stamps. We agree on welfare. We agree on a living wage.
How strange is that?
Pratt, I have no idea where you get the idea that firefighters and cops pay for their health ins or pensions, best take another look most Cities are paying for those items and there are a number of Large cities paying a pension equal to the daily working wage, must be nice. You come here from Ca and want to bring everything you had or didn't have there to Id, WRONG. Ca has to many money problem they may never get them fixed but now they want to built the high speed rail with Government and State money like they really have it, another smart move, just spend and pay later, if thats the way everyone from Ca thinks go back and leave Id alone we don't need it.
Joe, many workers in the public sector, not all mind you, pay for their benefits via lower wages. Cities, counties and states would have been better off paying higher wages and fewer benefits, but they only looked at the short term. That was foolish and now when it's time to pay the piper, they whine.
Want to fix a budget shortfall? Cut back on payments to support pension plans. Governments and companies of all persuasion have been doing this for years. Governments so they don't have to cut spending or raise taxes, companies because the immediate bottom line is all that matters. Underfunded pensions never counted as a liability.
Tracy and I agree on living wages being paid in this country, where do you stand with her opinions?
Tracy, I'm not sure where you stand on Medicare Part D, the biggest piece of corporate welfare in recent history.
Marvin, I think it was in my first or second comment that I said I have a heart. Hopefully if those tragic things you mentioned happened to ANYONE, I would want them taken care of. I don't have the answers of how to take care of them but, I do know that the gov.t isn't the solution. Tell me one system they haven't bankrupted or that isn't heading south, and this one is suppose to work? Why, because 16,000 IRS agents are going to make it happen. This is the same group who let a lady file a $2.1 million dollar return, and paid it, if I remember the story correctly.
My comment wasn't an all encompassing (sp?) comment. My comment, as long as you don't assume, was towards people who CHOOSE to trash their body. And as far as my daughter getting pregnant. That may happen, it may not. I'm assuming since she had sex with an 18 year old boy that she is over 18? Well, that makes her an adult and she can make her own choices. Hopefully I have given her enough guidance and love to where she will make the right ones, whatever those may be for her.
Also, this comment kind of struck me as odd....." Oh yes, the father is a black 18 year old who just was convicted of selling drugs." You are trying to portay the worst possible scenario for my daughter and in that scenario you use a black male.... Something you'd like to tell us? Why would it matter to me whether the father was a black 18 man?
As far as the Tea Party, I'm not a member. I do share some of their beleifs. Just like I also share some liberal beleifs. I don't beleive any one party has it completely right. I'm a member of the Common Sense Party :)
BTW Tracy, yep, you pretty much covered everything. I'm having to deal with one of those 2 month TDY's now and am only able to talk to my wife on the weekends. Then when she gets back, it's off to another deployment in February. Which she can not tell me where she is going or what her mission will be. I can only hope that during those 6 months, where she will miss V-day, my B-day, her fathers B-day, our anniversary, and who knows what else, that I'll be able to see her on webacm for a few minutes. Atleast we will be able to spend Christmas together this year. In the last 5 years, we have only had 2 Christmas' together that weren't a deployment, training, or moving to another base. Speaking of bases, we've lived at 3 of them in the last year. Yep Roy, we've got it made :) But honestly, I wouldn't trade it for anything, I enjoy it. I just hate it when people say we get stuff free or that it's paid for by someone else.
Roy, I have no real answer about why your wages have dropped since you got here, but I suspect it may have something to do with market pressures. Specifically, there are fewer projects to work on, fewer companies to bid on them and many more people willing to work at even minimum wage than there were in 2005.
Eagle Eye, as public employees, police and firefighters are eligible to participate in the Public Employee Retirement System of Idaho and do pay somewhere around 8% of their salary into the fund. They also pay into Social Security.
The individual city/county governments had the option of merging their retirements with PERSI back in the 70s. Individual employees can opt out of the system if they want, but few if any do.
It is interesting that more than 89% of the monthly payments made to PERSI retirees are made to people who live within the state. So it sort of keeps on contributing to the tax base.
I agree, Mike. Here I am complaining about the spouse part of it and I never hear a peep out of your daughter (I still let her know that I appreciate what she does).... Says a lot about her character :) And yours for what you went through in the jungle and the long hours on the tarmac and ARE STILL going through today. You're one of the people I look up to. Not because you're my dad but, because you're an over all good man :)
Yeah, give me a call in the morning. No meetings on Mondays so, I get to stay home until 1:15 :) Yippity doo!
Talk to ya soon, my man!
Very well stated Buckshot! That was very creative. KT, I saw Zook today while out and about (and got a ride in the Olds) and I heard you were on your own...again. Hang in there. If she is anything like her Dad---I am sure she is a great person and you will have a happy life. No, it is not an easy life and I also hate when I hear how great the pay is and how we pay nothing in the way of medical expenses. We are not on the same insurance plan as Congress nor those IRS agents/representatives. FAR FROM IT!
Roy, your initial statements were pretty inflamatory and disrespectful to those who have served, currently serve and will serve. No matter what your motivation was for your comments, it was not very nice---nor was it very truthful.
These folks who serve have hard lives. They are exposed to things that we can't even think of. Scenes that they wish were not burned into their minds---forever. They miss out on important things in the lives of their loved ones---births, deaths, graduations, weddings, etc. In these days, those who serve do it for their country. A country they believe in and a country they would die for. These people protect your rights. I would imagine it is hard for some of those who serve to fight for a country that is such an "upside down land." So much angst. It has to be hard to be commanded by a "leader" that has never served and just wants to cut the military, their pay, insurance, etc. Imagine how hard it must be for some in present day.
Who protects THEIR rights? Our Government has been screwing vets for decades. The last screwing they need is from the public---the very same people they fight to protect. You were wrong in what you said. It was meant to be hurtful. You insulted a great many. It will be a cold day in (you know where) before I EVER feel that my husband's pay represents some kind of Government welfare or that I am part of the welfare system because I benefit from HIS service.
It makes me want to puke that you could say the things you do just for a reaction. I agree with Buckshot, the "crap filter" is full.
Zook, thanks for the visit. Always a pleasure my friend. See ya on the range or at the local hangout. Watch your back my friend.
I've not been keeping up with you 'guys and gals' on the blog. I just gotta put in a cent or two worth of my thought.
Though I haven't served in the military, I realize a lot of what they go thru. Born in '42, I have known of a lot of the WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. horrors thru stories of kinfolks and friends who served. I have the freedom that I cherish today because of them and others who have served.
OM, your 'free ride' is NOT. If your husband was not serving in the military, your medical insurance would be paid by him because he would working at a public job and paying for it himself. Since he is serving our country, he is MORE than paying for your 'insurance'.
Roy, I don't know what the solution is to our health care problems. I don't believe anybody else does either. If a great solution was known, it would be in effect already. I can see a lot of problems and a few things that MIGHT help; but yet, most of things that would help also hurts. I believe this to be a good example:
We all want a generic for a prescription drug as soon as a new drug is released. BUT, if you legislate away the pharmaceutical companies right to patents on the newly developed drugs, why would they want to spend millions to research another new drug, just to have it copied for much less money?
It seems that almost everything we examine for health care solutions are like this.
Buckshot61, I don't know where you got this 'Upside-down-land', but it is so true. I've seen a lot of different bits similar to this. Just similar; this is the best I've seen. Is it a quote from something or your own thoughts?
Zook, good to see you're still around! Haven't seen you for a while out the LGS or at your wife's place of employment. Got a question to ask you when I see you again.
To all: Have a great week!
OM, KT --
If I posted my true thoughts about Mr. Pratt's diatribe, I would probably not be allowed back on this forum, so I want to applaud you for your restraint and civility in your replies.
Please accept my gratitude for your commitment to supporting your soldiers and .pass on my thanks to them and their compadres.
To others out there who also served, thanks as well.
Once again I apologize to everyone. My words were out of frustration at not being able to get a solid, concrete answer to the healthcare crisis. It seemed all I got was rhetoric, not answers. Tracy, you had the guts to give an honest answer, and what you saw as a solution, almost all of which I am in perfect agreement.
I have complete respect for the military and their families. The sacrifice is great. The cause, I think we all agree is seriously flawed. We are pouring blood and money into a never ending money pit that quite frankly wasn't worth a single drop of blood.
I was listening to Bill Cunningham last night as he talked about the Cunningham doctrine. The man has it right! Google him sometime.
God Bless our military.
I wonder what would happen, if we paid a flat fair tax in this country. No tax deductions. And everyone had to pay -even those who have very little income.
I wonder if we were able to collect back taxes owed to the Govt by those who were here illegally and took advantage of healthcare, public services like schools, fire protection and police protection.
If we denied everyone who worked for the Govt a salary until they balanced the budget and put in real reforms instead of running for office.
Frank Lunce put together a forum over the 4th and had several congressman answer questions from the panel. The majority of these people voted for Obama in 08. They probably won't again. The questions that they asked were pointed and insightful.
Here's the good part: The answers that they got were honest and direct. The most telling one was from a Democrat who said that if you voted in the Senate out of fear of losing an election-you didn't belong there.
Reform comes with strong leadership and people who really listen to what their constituents want.
Do we really owe everyone a living? Does the govt owe us one? Medical care is so twisted and bloated that no one can resolve it with a "health plan". What would happen if the cost of those 16,000 IRS agents were traded out for Preventable Healthcare? If insurance companies were allowed to cross state lines? If tort reform became a reality?
Start from the top down to get changes made. The biggest mistake that keeps getting made for funding cuts is that they start at the bottom and try to work their way up. This causes an outcry from all the lobby groups, womens rights, and poor.
Ask your politicians-What can we afford to keep? And will you take a major pay cut to bring down the our deficit?
When companies and individuals feel in control of their financial destinies, they are far more generous about supporting charitible causes thus helping the poor.
When you are told how to run your company or your personal life by a group of people who are so out of touch with the day to day grind of the ordinary citizen, things get held back.
Thank you OM for the great blog.
Very good comments today. Zook, I wish we could have cruised man. I also like to think about days gone by (and I do love the classic cars!). Thank you for visiting with us. It is always great to see you my friend. You are refreshing!
KH, thanks for your comment and thank you as well for all of your great stuff. You are very talented and original.
Until we bring down the premiums that insurance cos. are allowed to charge and get some sort of regulation over pharmacy---Obamacare is nothing but a black hole of money. What is "broken" must be fixed in order to truly have change. As long as these groups donate heavily to the jackwagons in DC---nothing will change. Until we reform out welfare system and get people back to work for a living wage with decent employers---nothing will change. The IRS can tax me all they want but if I do not have the money to pay for said tax...it just really will not matter. When people have to work 2-3 jobs just to "keep their heads above water," there is a problem. It goes beyond not thinking about the what ifs in life. Much has changed in the last several years. It is pretty sad.
THANKS.....BROTHER,you know were I stand. OM ...YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN ANGRY BUT YOUR HEART WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE THANKS......KEITH THANKS....Broken promises seems to be a way of life for our government through the years. We served for love of country and all we asked was that our country love us back.....simple.
The intent of healthcare is preventative.I think it takes on a different tone if looked at that way.I also think most will just pay the fine after all it's cheaper than buying insurance $95.00-$695.00....we shall see,there are good and bad points...we shall see.
Yes Buckshot, that is all it is about. But until the sheeples open their eyes...well, we are headed for a rough road.
Yes Lamont---I really dislike the comments about how wonderful life is for our military folks and how easy these folks have it/have had it. It offends me.
OM....IT OFFENDS ME ALSO I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.ALL I WAS SAYING WAS THANKYOU IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAID BETTER......
Well...if it is a "Jewish" book...we open it at the back and move forward reading from right to left. Perhaps Buckshot you need to look at this a different way (that was a joke). Perhaps the story will begin at the end when all of the damage has been done and he moves to Brazil!
Don't forget that Obama also said in 2008 that it was irresponsible and immoral to raise taxes on people in the middle of a recession. Well, he did (Obamacare) and it is (a recession now). Romney has tons of soundbites at his disposal and he'd better start using them.
Another great blog, Tracy. And some great and entertaining comments by lots of smart people on here. It warms my heart to see so many on here who "get it". I wish you guys were running the country. We'd be so much better off - heck, we might even save it.
Vote with your pocketbook in mind and with your political party finger taped to the palm of your hand so that you won't be tempted.
The question is: Do we want to eat baloney sandwiches at the back of the bus? Or invite all of the American People to the picnic?
Sorry Marvin:
the Baloney Sandwich Comment replaces another term that cannot be used on line.
Bazooka Man can fill you in.
Tough day yesterday. So my mental speller was off.
FUNNY THING....always hearing how if your the top guy you get the blame and the credit.......why doesnt it apply here or for this guy he only gets the blame..oh but that's only fair he's not one of US........hello!!!!!!!!WHAT A JOKE
"Sexual Predator"...under starvin marvin's thought process, that covers nearly half of those who have been in the White House---including Clinton! How does a consenting adult who sleeps with another consenting adult equate to a "sexual predator?" (Key words being CONSENTING ADULTS)
BUSH DIDNT KILL SADDAM EITHER.....BUT YOU GAVE HIM CRDIT FOR IT......I AM SURE ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS WAVE A WAND AND ALL THE THINGS SET IN MOTION THE PREVIOUS DECADE OR MORE WOULD HAVE JUST STOPED....HELLO!!!!! example;; You would think you could just stop a war by stop shooting, aint happened yet.WHAT'S UP WITH THAT......JUST AS THERE IS BAD THERE IS GOOD,DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT........There is bad in the health care act but there is also good in it.IF all you want to see is bad that is all you will see.......