More Monkey Business With The WECRDPosted Sunday, July 11, 2010, at 2:33 PM
If they do not know we did it...then it cannot be wrong. Right?
This information is directly from the "new" WECRD web site which can be found at http://www.wecrd.org/index.php?option=co... "After inspection of paperwork, a working session was held to determine what changes needed to be made for the FY2010©\2011 Budget. The Board will need to make a decision on the 3% tax increase that is allowed by law (the Board did not adopt the increase for 2009©\2010). The Board anticipated the tax revenue for 2010©\2011 would be a minimum of $441,000 (tax revenue and interest)." Their meeting to approve the new budget and POSSIBLE 3% tax increase will be in August however, testimony/protest over the possible increase can be made at the WECRD Board Meeting on July 28, 2010 at 11:30 a.m. This organization sold a tax of $34.50 (per household) to the public and then changed it. Do we really need another tax increase? So, we have the CLDC/YMCA working on a fiscally responsible plan that this community can afford. We do not know if there will be a facility or if this will just be green space for outdoor recreation. On the WECRD's current agenda (for their next meeting on July 28, 2010) they state they will discuss selling water shares. Why would you even think about selling irrigation rights BEFORE there is a plan? What if you need to irrigate all of that property (in the event there is no building)? It is far cheaper to irrigate with canal water as opposed to the city well. The WECRD Board has stated over and over that they will wait for a decision from the CLDC/YMCA. Why do they continue to make decisions which are arbitrary to the "process" and in direct conflict with their promise not to do anything with the land? Why sell irrigation rights? There is a pending FEMA survey that still needs to be completed. Maybe before the land was "rezoned" we should have had the results of that survey in hand in case we find that some of this land cannot be built on (due to the flood plain/flood zone status). It seems that this Board coninues to put the cart before the horse. If the WECRD Board was REALLY and TRULY awaiting the results of the CLDC/YMCA, they would take their crayons, sit in the corner, and do nothing. Instead, they act contrary to their words over and over. The "new" web site says it all. "Foot print designed." Footprint? There currently is NO determination what there will be! How can the "foot print" be designed? "to satisfy HUD requirements for the receipt of federal money the WECRD has completed a full Environmental Assessment performed by Bionomics Engineering. (Bionomics fee was reduced nearly 50% for the WECRD)." From the same "new" web site: "Environmental Assessment in nearly complete for release of F.A.¨C" So is the survey done or not? The WECRD indicated in several Appropriations Applications that this was all done. What are the real facts on this issue? Why is a FEMA survey now being required? How can the WECRD plan anything without the FEMA survey? Fail to plan, plan to fail. This current Board has never planned (in good faith) to work with the YMCA/CLDC. They plan to do what they want as soon as they have enough money. Their plan is clear and has been put to paper. They are not working with these groups---they are merely biding their time until they have enough money and then all bets are off. How can you have a "prepared statement" at a public meeting unless you are having meetings outside of the "public" meetings. Brush up on the laws girls because at some point you are going to get yourselves in a pickle over this stuff. I am glad to see you put that expensive picture to work for ya. "If an election is needed this year, a decision must be made on where to hold the Election." IF an election is needed? Really? IF? Wow! Arbitrary and capricious? You bet your bippy! Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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You sure ask a lot of questions. Maybe you should attend some of their meetings. I bet your sage advice is well taken, after your successful petition drive to dissolve them. Keep trying, though. It's fun to watch.
Wow what a snarky blog, no wonder why nobody takes you seriously!
What a snarky comment. If you don't like what she says, don't read it.
Hey Quidnumic and OJBSmith, maybe you 2 should try going to the meetings at the WECRD with all their odd times during the day and then maybe you could put in a comment that really made sense. It sure appears neither of you have a clue to what is going on with them and how they are taking your tax dollars and having a field day with the money with nothing to show for it except receipts for most things but not all.
How long are we going to be taxed ? Is there ever going to be an end?
Yep MsM real sweet deal so many are being taken by, if you own property in their district or a business owner you going to pay taxes for something that may or not get build and to top it off you have to pay a membership every year to use it plus other fee's and taxes. If things weren't bad enough if you check one of the downtown business that into fitness is for sale, should tell people this big monster of a dream is not going to be supported by many except the rich.
That's right, EagleEar, so many people were so upset that they signed that petition that got turned in, didn't they. It's good to know that FactMissy is sure about the election, it must mean she's running and we'll have a chance to vote on her agenda. This will be fun to watch.
Are you a preperty owner, Quidnunc?
Just curious.
FactMissy will not run. I want NOTHING to do with that mess that has been created by those 3 women and each before them.
This tax will not go away. As a matter of fact, it was changed to something that was not voted for (legal but was not what the public was "sold"), it may very well be increased by the 3% allowed by law and if this is ever built, there will be membership fees and other fees as it stands right now.
As for the petition remarks. I did not start the petition. Another member of this community did and quit. It was handed off to me. I work on it as I have time. See, I have to work my posterior off to keep up with taxes---paying for things in this community that I DO NOT need. Paycheck trumps petition. If you can do better, please feel free to do so. See how much time something like this takes for yourself instead of kvetching about what I have done, not done, etc. Any takers? You can get all of the stuff from Eagle. The entire 5 X 5 box of documents. All yours busy body for the taking since you have so much time on your hands.
Same as it is on the national level, Missy........being taxed and having to pay for all kinds of social programs we don't want or need.
As I said last year, there are several of us who would like to have an indoor shooting range, but like the "rec center", it's a WANT, not a need.
Let those who WANT this thing, chip-in and DONATE to it. And anyway, if it's gonna be a "members only" thing..............and "so many people want it", (as it's being portrayed), then it should pay for itself HANDILY on membership fees and concessions alone, without hanging yet ANOTHER ONE on the homeowners, MOST OF WHOM will never use it.
These "councils" around this county must think we're MADE of money-----------a never-ending supply------like the "loaves & the fishes."
Everytime somebody WANTS something, WE'RE supposed to dig into OUR pockets and shell out for it.
Under the trend of this "booming economical recovery", our homes are DROPPING in value, and still they want more tax dollars from us for their pet projects.
NOW, they're trying to "spread the wealth" on a LOCAL level.
They're spreading SOMETHING, anyway.
Funny how you complain about " kvetching" when you have yet another blog entry which is nothing but "kvetching". No kidding you won't run- you don't want to fix anything, you don't want to know what the voters really think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_...
And yes bazooka, I own property.
And yes bazooka, I own property.
So how big is your outhouse?
Not big enough to hold all the road apples printed here, but it smells better.
And yes busy body (Quidnunc)...you are also a part of the road apple brigade. Welcome! You can plant apples as well as the rest of us.
Too much kvetching up to do to match you or bazooka's output.
Ok, "property owner" Quidnunc.............hod'd you feel about NOTHER property tax hike to help build an indoor shooting range for the MINORITY of us around here who would USE it?
You good with that?
And like WECRD...........we wouldn't just want a facility.............we'd want a "world class" range, complete with various ranges for both rifles and pistols, upper and lower levels, bullet traps, reloading rooms and equipment, a gunsmith shop, archery range, and a built-on divided area for the black powder clan.
We want classroom facilities for hunter's safety and concealed weapons courses...........and money to support a staff of instructors to provide and run all of this.
Whether you shoot or not, Quidnunc. Whether yoy OWN or not, whether you'd ever USE it or not.................are you ok with another tax bill?
Since you and others around here DON'T seem to mind spending everyone else's money on "community projects" then you'd have no problem if something like this made it on a ballot and happened to get voted-IN, right?
We "gun-people" are a part of this community too, ya know.
So maybe we ought to propose a range and see if WE can get all the homeowners (shooters or NOT), to go along with yet ANOTHER "bond."
Heck, we all ought to be getting USED to it by now, eh? maybe the new jail needs to be updated as well, with a pool, spa and a few hot tubs.
And do not forget a sauna and warm water therapy of some sort to help ease the back pain caused by a hard day of labor...oh wait...our prisoners in MH do not do much of that---I was thinking of AZ where at least there is an effort to earn their keep. I would like a range myself. I would use that before some Ecoli infested, puss vat. More taxes? The American way. Someone has to pay to keep up with the "Smith" and "Jones" family.
And like WECRD...........we wouldn't just want a facility.............we'd want a "world class" range, complete with various ranges for both rifles and pistols, upper and lower levels, bullet traps, reloading rooms and equipment, a gunsmith shop, archery range, and a built-on divided area for the black powder clan.
We should also ask for Trap Ranges, Skeet Ranges and A Sporting Clays course. These could even make some money as long as the Queens in charge had nothing to do with it.
Make it a migrant facility. It will be utilized and maintained by the Dept of Agriculture. Then the local taxpayers will maybe get off the hook.
Since obviously we haven't recieved this Rec Facility yet and seems to not have any intention of finishing it how about we just give the money back :) to the tax payers for what is needed not wanted.
Don't be talkng "logic".........this is Elmore County
Elmore County logic............a nice dairy would fit nicely on that lot?
yes.........but surely we can all see the need for something the size they're proposing........for this HUGE booming "metropolis" of 16,000+
......all of whom would just be FLOCKING down there to use it!
PS..........I don't recall it in detail now, but I HAVE seen copies of the original proposal several months ago.
If nothing has changed since, the geographics of this thing is something you might find in the city of DETROIT............this is Mountain Home.
Used to be, anyway.
Bazooka,
Usually I just scroll past your pages of single sentence/phrase paragraphs, but the "logic" in your last couple (shorter) posts makes even less sense than you usually fail to make. So we are all illogical here in Mountain Home (or anywhere in your mind) because we don't take up arms against immigration, communism, conspiracies, pirates, hamsters, blah, blah, blah.
So explain to me how Elmore County is so much less logical than anywhere else? And how did you come to classify that the "geographics" of the proposed WECRD facility apply to Detroit. But really what I'd like to understand is what you meant by ".......this is Mountain Home - Used to be, anyway." What were you implying or does your point not have one?
Picture time...........just for you, Quid........
I never referred to conspiracies, pirates or "hamsters" in the realm of logic. I'm just saying that nobody needs a friggin' Greyhound Bus to go to the store.
And we AREN'T less logical than anywhere else........we just seem to be catching up with the mentality of larger cities.
Speaking of which-------"Detroit" (as an EXAMPLE of a larger city..............a town the size of Mountain Home doesn't NEED something you'd find in a big city.
Not only do you "pass up" my posts (which suits ME), but you've obviously never read the full proposal documents either, or you'd KNOW what they THINK they need to build here, with more of our tax dollars.
"Used to be"..................how long have you lived here, Quid? Apparently not long enough to remember what this town WAS before we "JUST HAD TO GROW, INDUSTRIALIZE, BUILD ONE HOUSING TRACT AFTER THE OTHER-----------water table or not-----------and just invite HALF THE WORLD IN HERE.
Now we have LOTS of people---from Nampa, Caldwell, Boise, California, you name it. A lot more traffic, ample amounts of spraypaint graffiti, more crime and a newer bigger jail to go with it.
And liberal councils that thinks we need to build even MORE, with money that isn't THEIRS.
When I first came here in 1972, Meridian wasn't much bigger than Mountain Home is right now. the same growing-frenzy took root over there, and TODAY there are nearly 70,000 people, they are HEAVILY taxed, the streets are jammed with traffic, homes buttoned-up against each other, and the police department has its HANDS FULL.
In this country, there are big cities for thse who enjoy the hustle and night life....................and there are small towns for those who have chosen to live AWAY from all that crap.
This USED to be a quaint little town, Quid, but today we have opportunists who are financially BENT on making this another jungle like Meridian has become.
There is only so much real estate here..........only SO MUCH WATER. Next thing you know, we'll have MORE of them moving in, and demanding that the base closes because of the airplane noise that's only been here since before World war II.
Quid------------this is NOT just a "slogan"-------I LIVED here when you COULD take off for 3 weeks, leave your house unlocked and the keys in your truck...........and everything would still BE there when you got back.
You wouldn't DARE do that now.
"Progress"..............yss, it's WONDERFUL.
Mountain Home used to be an attitude, a mindset, a peaceful way of life. Today it is just a target on a planner's drawing board, where peace and serenity have been shoved aside for that "almighty dollar" that they continue to TAX US for, to PAY for this crap that so many of us who have LIVED here for decades.............don't want.
I wouldn't expect YOU to understand that.............but since you asked........
It's funny/ironic that an individual from California is complaining on a blog of an individual from Illinois that there are too many from outside the State of Idaho living here in Mountain Home.
I picture a pot and a kettle.
Well.....try picturing SPRAYPAINT, THEFT and VANDALISM, which has become common practice since this town started to populate in significant numbers.
The "guy who was BORN in California"...........didn't COME here from there. He was STATIONED here 4 different times and elected to retire here.
He didn't bring any "california" liberal habits with him either. Nor any delinguent gang-kids from there or from anywhere NORTH of here.
PS...........if you add up the total number of years through 4 assignments, plus the retirement time since '88, you'll find that the "California Kid" has lived here longer than a lot of folks who were BORN here. This has been "Home" to me for a very long time.
How long have YOU been here, Pale?
Ummm, just because you were stationed here for however many times, that doesn't mean you were sentenced to stay here for life. You are clearly unhappy here, The I-84 (formally known as the I-80N) as you have recently discovered will get you out of this state. Maybe if you hurry you can even get back Cali where you can actually cast a legal vote against Nancy Pelosi rather than "supporting "a guy that when push comes to shove will be a vote for her. When did you purchase your home? Was it before or after 1988? How many of those assignments were at your request? Were you; as some professional military people would say, homesteading?
So......you elected to retire here in Elmore County. From some of your postings I would have thought that you would be much more at "home" in Kootenai County.
Oh, and just because you (possibly) homesteaded here before others, that doesn't give you the right to tell the city and the county that they can not grow and others can not come into our community.
As far as your PS:
Long before you and according to the insurance actuarial scales maybe a year or two longer than you.
First bazooka rails about statist governments telling people what they can and cant do. Then he rails about people exercising their freedom to choose by buying and selling their own private property in a free market, but spoiling his "perfect" vision of how he wants his old Mayberry to be. Which is it, zook? People should have private property rights, or should you be able to have the big bad gubmint stop someone's free enterprise?
I've been here since the 70's and never left to live elsewhere.
bazookaman I thought I read on another blog that you were a Marine? Is this correct or do I have it wrong? I would be most interested in how you managed to get assigned here 4 times?
Back in the 70's there was crime and drugs here, not much has changed since then. We had our car broken into and our living room window completely smashed and that happened back in the 70's
I am happy with Mountain Home, and I like that we have more to offer now then we did back in the 70's. Our parks look so much better, down town looks better then it did back then.
Oh and we have fewer bars and more churches then we did back then. That doesn't make a difference to me, just pointing it out. lol !
I elected to retire here years before it became what it is here today. i bought my first home here in 1986.
I was stationed here 4 times while in my SECOND military career as an F-111 maintenance man in the Air force. My FIRST service hitch was in the Marine Corps (1966-1969-----------67/68 in 'Nam).
Serial number on my M-14 was 1159313, for those those out there with this "passion for detail."
Wife & I HAVE discussed moving out of here. Just a matter of finding the right place, which we might have just found.
Pay attention & don't blow it out of context. I didn't say people don't have the right to live where they want.............I just said I DON'T like what has happened HERE since this "invasion" started.
Ok MsMarylin...............you got broke into in 1970. Was crime THEN what it is NOW?
And Quid, if you HAVE been here longer than me, and STILL do not see what's happened here, you must be a part of that "change' we're all supposed to believe in.
Change is not always good..............my opinion, and I'm as entitled to it, as anyone else is the theirs.
3 out of 22 Zoo. Doesn't that make you more of an airman than a marine ?
Only in terms of time. After my hitch in the Corps, the Air Force didn't seem to be "military" at all by comparison.
What I learned in the Air Force provided me with a suitable civilian career after I retired from active duty.
What I learned in the Marine Corps is going to prove INVALUABLE when things finally go "south" here.
There is also a pride in being a Marine that comes from no other branch. We all still celebrate the birthday every November 10th. I'd be surprised if any soldier, sailor or airman even knows the year their branch was founded, let alone the actual date.
66 to 69 were the hardest years of my entire life, and I had to prove more to myself, than I ever have since.
The Marine Corps is a brotherhood. You'll never hear the term, "Once an airman, Always an airman.'
You'll also probably never hear an Airman downplay another servicemember's career, regardless of the branch in which he/she served.
If ANYTHING, I was "down-playing" my OWN 19 years.
My Air Force time was valuable and rewarding.
My Marine time was considerably more demanding.
To be sure, there are NO trench grunts who don't have tremendous appreciation for air support.
Each service branch has their own function and all tie in together.
MrMister......I was merely answering Pale Ale's question as it pertained to ME. And in my PERSONAL case, it was considerably harder becoming a Marine and staying alive, than ANYTHING the Air Force ever put me through, so I do NOT consider myself "more of an Airman" just because I put in 19 years of shift work opposed to just 3 of HARD duty and combat time.
Passing the initiation at Lackland to become an Airman is one thing.
Making the grade at San Diego or Parris island is a whole different animal.
I'm not putting anybody "down", just putting it into perspective as it pertained to my OWN 2-branch career.
But few things in life ever looked "sweeter" to me than F-4 Phantoms boring in at Khe Sanh dropping napalm and other high explosives. We always appreciated airpower.
bazookaman - don't feel like you have to justify your years of service to anyone.
One of my foster kids (girl) was a Marine for 15 yrs or maybe longer. She signed up not to long after High School. She can not say enough good what the Marines had done for her. She was and still is proud to have been a Marine !
Not really justification, bearhunter...........just unraveling a little math mystery as to how 3 can be more than 19.
Right now 98 is a pretty big number for the country.
And 7 is a big one for me, because at this time NEXT Tuesday, I should be almost into Utah, enroute to Oklahoma, Ohio and D.C.
MsMarylin, I salute YOU. We disagree politically at times. but I just want to say that I think it takes a very special person to be a foster parent. That shows a great deal of caring and giving to others.