The "Tale" Of Our Loss of Independence

I heard (about 4 months ago), that he was planning to do that. So he finally HAS, eh?

Yeah, you're right............no sweat, we can afford it. We'll just "Tax the Rich" some more.......they'll lay off a few more people to compensate, and there'll be some nore "user fees" to US along the way............(No more taxes---------just a few more "fees."

(Jimmy Carter had his Vietnamese "Boat People.")

But 20.3 is just "chump change" to those who SPEND OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

A drop in the bucket Tracy............wait till you see what it's gonna cost us when he grants AMNESTY and they start hitting the welfare, food stamp and free medical roles LEGALLY.

But never forget how lucky we still ARE.............

Hillary just made a 4th of July statement about how fortunate we are to live HERE, because "in many OTHER countries, there are governments dedicated to taking RIGHTS away from its citizens."

Isn't THAT a profound statement!!

Ooops to both of you. This bill passed in Feb 2009 and the deceleration was signed in January 2009. That is 1 1/2 years ago! Also please read the text of the document you posted. It does not say, nor imply that we will allow these people to immigrate to the U.S. It says MIGRATION needs which means moving to a safer place in their own war torn country and Humanitarian needs. This has become an urban legend that this proclamation will lead to IMmigration into the U.S....you can look it up at factcheck.org or urbanlegends.about,com

And referring to our president and HIS people and inferring that his people are not Americans,that makes as much sense as basing arguments on the prophecies of Nostradamus. Oops..never mind.

And the comment about "boat people." Would you prefer that America left them behind all to be killed? That's what makes America great we help others!

On the 4th of July of all days why cant we find something positive to say about our great country. One of the great things about our country is that we can voice opposition to the government without retribution. I am a proud American and while I may not agree with your opinions I agree with your right to voice your opinion. However I do take exception when the facts are not correct or when the arguments are personal attacks rather than attacks on policy issues.

Yeah, why not.

Come one----come all

We'll just let 'em ALL in and support 'em forever, and our grandkids can pick up the tab when WE'RE expired.

thankyou.......mhdb8.....thankyou.........policy thats what im talking about,,,,and how we get to the answer we get ............facts.......thankyou the sun does shine............GOD BLESS AMERICA

Beam me up, Scotty!

Hang in there, Missy.

There a BUNCH of them who are going to "see the light"................

119 days and a HARD wake-up, and we're gonna start purging the liars, thieves and "reds" OUT of the system.

They're going to do what damage they can WHILE they can, but the majority are awake now, and have had enough. They really have. Even some of the Dems have finally figured it out and are no longer supporting this fleecing of America, since they've actually discovered that it's coming out of THEIR pockets as well.

Strange as it might seem, a lot of DEMOCRATS don't like being lied to and used either!

They thought this "change" was gonna be a big free ride down the "yellow brick road."

Hang in there, Missy, ya "rightwing, tea-bagging, radical extremist, mean-spirited little racist you!

How DARE you stand up for this country! What do you think this is, AMERICA????

PS...................did you get that news article I sent you this morning about Bush & Obama? I CAN'T WAIT for the next time somebody whines about what Obama "inherited."

Thank you Quidnunc...the Snopes article is another great myth-buster of "behind closed doors." It also states GW Bush signed the same type of Determination for more countries and more money in 2007. Good for him!

OM You never address the real issue...this Deceleration does not allow people from Gaza to come to the U.S. You write: "If you think for one minute that these people will EVER be sent back to their country, you are a complete fool."

This statement is first an ad hominem fallacy:

Ad hominem abusive usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.

The statement is also a Strawman Fallacy where one takes the main issue " Palestinian Immigration" and you appear to link it with illegal immigration...a much weaker opponent.

There is no mass Palestinian Immigration.. you are now attacking ILLEGAL immigration which most would agree is a problem here in the US, to support your claim that our president is allowing Palestinians to immigrate to the US. This argument does not hold up.

Please make sure you address who "these people" are in your argumentation. Words like "these people"are too vague and can make it sound like you are stereotyping. Tell us who are "these people"

Also calling those that disagree with you "fools" and "dumb" does not advance rhetorical debate. This IS one of the problems with political dialogue today.

"I value free speech when what is stated is factual (as opposed to lies, gossip and un-truths)." This is from your own blog description...a very noble statement.

So if you find something wrong with my facts...let me know and we can discuss them. If you want to call those that disagree with you fools and dumb...sorry I wont take the bait and get into that type of discussion. I have said my peace.

The book written by Lee Iacocca was actually written in 2007 when Bush was President, since then wording has been changed and has been circulating in Emails

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/i...

I don't really care when the book was written or about who, as I started it with True, false or whomever said it, it makes sense big time for Obama and staff, I didn't bother to check what was true or false about it thats why I started it the way I did.

Just when we thought your credibility couldn't get any worse. Impressive. Denial and diversion. It should have been obvious though because your chosen name is 'Opinion' Missy and not 'Fact' Missy. Especially funny that you claim to have facts and then say they don't matter when they are false. As long as we all know, when you claim something as fact, there is 'always' another side. Helpful for when someone might be in danger of tripping and falling on your road apples.

PS..........Lee Iacocca is an EXCELLENT example of why the "dirty capitalists" of the business industry are much better-suited to achieve a better economy, than all these scumbag LAWYERS--------------288 of which reside in our Congress today!

Iacocca boosted Ford well beyond what they thought their own capabilities were.

Iacocca SAVED Chrysler, and even the DEMS know THAT. Everybody does.

Most corporations--------the RICH GUYS all the liberals want to tax into oblivion-----------KNOW how to operate for a PROFIT. We should be taking LEAD from them, not try to BURY them!

THIS government couldn't make money running a lemonade stand, and we have a national debt to prove it.

Without federal interference, a large portion of this oil spill would have already been rounded up. A lot of help has been turned away by government red tape..........even some help offered by a few FOREIGN countries (which NEVER happens as a rule).

and "mhdb8"...........you chastised Missy for her use of the terms "dumb" and "fools"............what ELSE would you call these idiots that have been put in charge?

Governors HAVE to manage budgets. Governors HAVE to deal with border security. Governors HAVE to deal with disasters, land management, taxes, water and environmental problems.

SENATORS don't have to do JACK! Just show up every now and then, shake a few hands, kiss a few babies, smile for the cameras..............and in Obama's case..............vote "PRESENT"............ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE TIMES.------------oh yeah, HE's a "Decision-maker" isn't he................and has come on to PROVE it on a daily basis!

Sarah Palin was the one one on EITHER ticket with ANY executive experience.

I voted for the Palin ticket for the same reason I voted for the DEMOCRAT Walt Minnick...........................because it was what was best for the COUNTRY.........not the party.

You "Party-worshippers" are the reason this country is in chaos. You're a bunch of trained seals.

Take a moment to "reflect", and you'll find that not only wasRonald Reagan a governor before he was president.................but Bill Clinton, one of the eternal darlings of YOUR side who the Dems have held on a pedestal forever----------was ALSO a governor.

They DO tend to have a much clearer view of things, than senators do. They've had to handle more problems than any senator will ever see.

you're technically correct.........But I DID write letters in SUPPORT of him...........which may have contributed to MORE THAN A FEW VOTES.

Error on my part in the heat of things........I MEANT to say..........and SHOULD have said that I SUPPORTED Walt Minnick.

He has done a splendid job thus far.

PS.......that's what I meant earlier about the patent numbers on that fire hose. I might not have crossed every "T" nor dotted every "I", but the end result and goals are the same.

You should read the link about a previous senator and his fitness for the presidency according to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldw...

I see. Do you feel the same way about the several billion dollars a year we send Israel?

Tax the rich!!! Tax the crap out of the rich. Considering that maybe 3 people in Mountain Home are in the category of rich, it won't affect most of us. Tax the rich I say!!

Households with net worths of $1 million or more may be identified as members of the upper-most socio-economic demographic, depending on the class model used. While most contemporary sociologists estimate that only 1% of households are members of the upper class, sociologist Leonard Beeghley asserts that all households with a net worth of $1 million or more are considered "rich." He divides "the rich" into two sub-groups: the rich and the super-rich. The rich constitute roughly 5% of U.S. households and their wealth is largely in the form of home equity