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Mountain Home--Anti-Bond. Really?Posted Sunday, March 7, 2010, at 8:10 PM
I am here from the WECRD. Give me all of your money and nobody will get hurt. Large bills only---we have pools to build!
I found this quote, from the above story, to be of great interest and in WECRD fashion---not really factual: "So why, after 10 years, does the district own nothing more than a parcel of land? WECRD Treasurer Judy Erwin said it takes a while to save up the money to build a facility. "The Mountain Home community has a very anti-bond mentality; they turn down school bonds, they turn down hospital bonds, they turn down almost any bond that's floated. The director looked at it and said 'I don't think there's any sense in wasting our money trying to float a bond, when this community is so anti-bond'. So that means we have to save and accumulate our money until we have the money to actually build a facility." First of all Ms. Erwin, Mountain Home has approved a jail bond, a hospital bond and at least one (1) school bond. For a community that is so "anti-bond" in your eyes and that of the WECRD "Bored" (Board) this community sure has approved some bonds and large dollar bonds at that. You go on to state that "The director looked at it and said 'I don't think there's any sense in wasting our money trying to float a bond, when this community is so anti-bond'." Which director said this and when? What did the other two (2) "Bored" (Board) members have to say on this subject? For the record, this community is not "anti-bond." This community has become more aware of where their money is going, how it is being spent and what it is being spent on. People are tired of being taxed with no results. People are tired of watching the WECRD Board do what they want---and a perfect example of this was the Appropriations Application that was turned in just under a month ago that was filled with less than factual information. Only one (1) WECRD Board member had even bothered to review it---Mollie Marsh and this is only because she helped to draft the document. The two (2) other WECRD Board members did NOT even bother to review it prior to it being submitted! What kind of an operation is this? Is the WECRD really involved with the YMCA/CLDC to come up with a plan or are they just stringing everyone along while we, the taxpayers, foot the bill for this sham? Mountain home is not "anti-bond" but many of us are anti-bull and so far, the WECRD Board is just plain full of it! The sow's ear under present control will never be a silk purse. But hey, we still have those great photos that we paid $725.00 for for the WECRD Board. That is "Razzy" material there. After 10 years and nearly 1.8 million in taxes (this does not include appropriations funding) paid and still NOTHING. I cannot imagine why the people of this community would trust this board with a bond. That would just be crazy. How could a community trust this board with that kind of money when they cannot even find the time to review an appropriations application and at least make sure the info provided to HUD was at least factual. It is not like the same thing did not happen last year! See, history does repeat itself. Comments Showing most recent comments first [Show in chronological order instead] |
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OG, you are correct. Ms. Sellers was nominated to become WECRD President. Mollie did not step down as the LTE in the paper indicated---her time as President was up. Mollie's dream. That pretty much said it all.
midea,
I could be wrong but I seem to remember reading a set of minutes where the board voted in Ms. Sellers as the board president. You might go the WECRD website (wecrdgov.org I think) and check out some of the minutes. They make for interesting reading when comparing them to what is going or not going on with the WECRD.
I missed something a while back. I thought Mollie Marsh was voted in by the voters as president of the WECRD. Isn't that what her title is/was?
If Mollie 'was' President, then how did M. Sellers become President without being voted in?
If Marsha is the President, then what is Mollies' title?
I do not think we are "negative" but we are realists. We see things the way they are as opposed to how someone tells us they are. That is far from negativity.
I have never claimed to be informed about this, that is why I asked a question... I really wish I would've never asked, because it's a response by the same people who always reply on this board (and I should've known what kind of an ugly response(s) I would get). I have always read the Mountain Home News even though I don't live here, and it just seems like this issue has gone on WAY too long, and I know that my mom always really wanted a facility like the YMCA in Mountain Home (I personally don't think that Mtn. Home is too small of a community to support a YMCA facility)...
Thanks to Bazookaman... I realize why I like living in Boise, I do like the big city conveniences... and I enjoy paying cheaper property taxes than my parents!!!
Apparently you are just another sad little name caller with attitude when someone's opinion differs from yours. Time to crawl out of that cesspool of a sandbox.
Wow CJW, such attitude! Why do you always seem to have your panties in a twist? If I didn't know better I'd think you were related to OM? Just TRY to get another bond passed in Mountain Home.
Yes, this community certainly IS Anti-Bond. Come on now....doesn't take a rocket scientist or 'someone who works in the legal profession' to figure that one out.
I wrote to Govenor Otter about the district and here is the reply I received back: "Thank you for contacting me about issues related to the Elmore County Recreation District. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.
The State of Idaho does not have ministerial responsibilities or oversight authority for the operation of recreation districts. The Idaho State Tax Commission only ensures that the districts' boundaries are mapped accurately, apportions operating property values as required by law, and reviews and approves each district's certified property tax budget, provided it does not exceed any statutory maximum amount to which they are entitled."
So the governing entity that appointed the district now says they have no control, the county and city say they have no control. Sounds to me like the inmates have the keys to the jail and are in charge.
Wait...one more mind numbing stupid fact. A member who sits on a CLDC sub-group (programs and facility) is also now a paid employee of the WECRD. That is almost as good as the entire WECRD Board attending a CLDC meeting after they said they would stay out of it and wait for the results. It is clear what Mollie wants. The question is will her 10 year tantrum pay off? Bets anyone? Let us just give her the nickname Leona from here on out. Same mentality.
The 1.8 million dollars you mention is what we have been taxed over the years to have NOTHING. The WECRD does not have 1.8 million in the bank but they would if they were not shelling out rent for an office open 12 hours a week, a tech guy, a web person, office staff, $725.00 for photos of themselves for their desks, $1,800 dollars for AFAD, etc. The WECRD money has been in a government investment account for years which was not fully insured (in other words...the WECRD could have lost a bundle of OUR money). They are now looking at depositing what they have (about 1.5 million) in local banks so the funds are fully insured (that may be done by now).
This has nothing to do with not wanting to see something good for our community such as the YMCA. However, you have the WECRD Board who at every turn does all that they can to torpedo this project. They have stated on the record that they would stand down and allow the YMCA/CLDC process to work yet they turn in an Appropritions Application for FY 2011 which clearly indicates that they have other plans. We pay a lot of money to consult with the YMCA---it is NOT free!
Your beef, OBJSmith, if you were an informed citizen, (and that was a really big IF) should be with a taxing district that has taxed YOU and US for 10 years and has done LITTLE to NOTHING. They have no regard for the public. They have office hours that keep the working class out of their office and they have their once a month WECRD Board meetings in the middle of the day (11:30 A.M.) to keep the public AWAY. We pay the YMCA to consult and all of the people involved with/on the CLDC donate their time in an effort to better this community and come up with a plan that we can pay for and support into the future---as opposed to the WECRD Board and their half-baked plan for a 33,000 SF building with a lap pool and therapy pool that they claim they can sustain with no real facts to back up their claims. Heck, they said at one point that the building could be built for under $75.00 PSF. Reality? HARDLY!!! They now claim (Ms. Erwin) that it will be more like $150.00 PSF. Imagine that?!?! We told them that 1.5 years ago but they just could not seem to grasp the idea.
It is people like you and DUMBINIDAHO that keep this town where it is. People who do not do their research and do not know the facts and scream build it now and we can worry how to pay for it later. OR, build that nuclear plant here right by the river where most of the irrigation water for the area is obtained. Who cares if toxic waste, etc. pollute the area as long as we have the CLAIM of great jobs. Who pays for the improved roads, more police, larger schools, more hotels, etc? We do. How do we pay for all of this? What do we do when all of the people go away? Who supports it all then? YOU AND I. Use some common sense when you post the next time. You both sound like uneducated, pissed off, idiots!
CJW and Bazooka, you were both right on. These idiots would do all they could to sell this town out for money. Few worry how we will pay for it and what it will cost us in quality of life for all of these "great" things. If you do not like it here and think we are all a bunch of narrow minded red necks---MOVE. This town could really do without some of you "forward" thinking folks. Look at what you pay in taxes now...you would really yell and holler if you had to pay to improve the infrastruture for the likes of AEHI. Have you even read their application? My guess is no. And not to worry---the ECC's and P & Z Board could not even support the regulations on the books with respect to zoning. Anything goes now in EC and the re-write of the rules will open the door for nearly anything right in your back yard. Wait until that tire plant ends up next door to you. Then you will care. Then this will all matter.
My time for dealing with stupid is up for today. Rest those brain cells DUMB and Smith...you need all of the help you can get, IMHO.
CJW,
I have read a lot of your posts on here, and you always have an angry tone (in my opinion)... I read, I took a deep breath, and I'm not going to value the opinion of someone who calls another adult a "TROLL".
CJW you're just as negative as DFII, in fact everybody on this board is just as negative.
I have a comment that is more of a question... Where is this $1.8 million dollars? Is it in a Savings Account... Is it gone? If the WECRD is having difficulty raising money, have they tried other avenues, such as applying for grants, fundraising...
I think Mountain Home would benefit greatly from having a YMCA type facility, I worked for the YMCA throughout college, and I belong to the one in downtown Boise now... I love it, and my whole family loves it. I have seen the YMCA have such a positive influence on kids and adults, and I love the fact that they don't turn anybody away...
Ms Erwin,
You're wasting your time trying to win over one of the most conserative locations on the face of this planet. Unless it has anything to do with ranching or farming...forget it!
It seems that anytime a good idea is brought forth here concerning the betterment of quality of life issues such as education, health and welfare, infrastructure, even future employment it's looked at with great distain and somehow the government is taking their money.
It amazes me how this community functions at all. The infrastructure is falling apart, but the community doesn't spend a dime to renew or repair anything. Currently the youth center is located adjacent to a BAR!
Just as the rest of the state is pulling itself into the 21st century, old Mountain Home is staying a bit in the 19th century. What does this say to our youth when you don't want to invest in them. I thank god for growing up in a place who cared about the youth of their community, who had a Boys and Girls Club, YMCA and YWCA and who didn't keep voting down school bonds. Has anyone seen the current facility they call a high school? My god it's embarrassing...especially when other communites around us are building new schools.
But, don't ya know, another day in the life of a place called Mountain Home Idaho, truly the "ugliest place in America"
If the Court here enforced the fines imposed instead of lowering them for nearly EVERY case...our local court system would support itself. But no...have to give the creeps and criminals a free ride so they can go out and do the "bad" things again and again. Bazooka, I feel your pain re: your mortgage. It may be best to give all of these homes back to these great banks and just start over. The banks take every chance they can to screw the public at every turn. We are lucky. We did not refi and pull equity out like a lot of people we know. However, there are so many homes for sale that mine is still not worth what I need to get out of it to recover ll of the money we have put into it over the last 5-6 years. Oh well!
Wait till the WECRD increases taxes when this Y thing goes up in smoke at their own hands. More on that later. The WECRD is still not willing to play by the rules that they set. Consulting fees, etc. for NOTHING!!!!
CJW,
If I'm not mistaken the jail is already paid for. At least that is what I heard a couple of months ago.
Thank you CJW...yet another fine example of what people have voted for in the way of bonds.
Savage, that is too bad that you feel that way. It is yet another fine example of your tax dollars NOT at work, waste, fraud and abuse. People like you have us where we are today. 1.8 million dollars later and we have NADA. Enough said. My point has been made with respect to the untruths at the hands of the WECRD Board and their staff. If people choose to ignore the facts then they get what they deserve...more taxes and a lot of NOTHING.
I could care less about WECRD. I've lived here 46 years and this town is inti-bond. This comunity can make Lincoln squeeeeel. Look at the history of bonds in elmore county for the proof.