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WWJD? Apparently, nothing.

Posted Wednesday, April 14, 2010, at 2:12 PM

I'm not going to pretend I know everything about politics, but I do have a problem I'd like someone to explain to me.

From what I gather, the GOP was formed under Christian values, correct?

Well, following that old mantra, What Would Jesus Do?, I would have to see maybe the GOP has fallen a bit far from that beginning moral.

One would expect a moral person to want to help, knowing full well that there will be those abusing the system.

Unfortunately the right is against all help. They scream "SOCIALISM!!" every time a public service is introduced. They screamed it at the Social Security Act of 1965.

I'm not an advocate for socialism, don't get me wrong. I understand full well socialism will never work to its theoretical potential. But some practices derived from socialism are good for countries. If we didn't practice a little socialism, we wouldn't need taxes. Hurray, right?

Wrong. Public schools. GONE. If you're born into a poor family, that means you will not have the opportunity to move up unless you can bum enough money to pay for school. Scholarships and things of that nature. Go away. Helping people with our money, spreading wealth? SOCIALISM!

Public restrooms? Sorry, you'll have to wait until you get home or can find a person willing to let you use theirs, or otherwise we could charge restrooms on a per-use basis.

Public sidewalks and roads? No. If you can't afford a fee to use the roads, sidewalks, or otherwise, you may as well stay home. Only those who can work enough and make their own can use those, because we aren't all contributing for each other.

I lean to the GOP in a few aspects, like limited government intervention. But I do admit that we NEED the government, just like they need us. C.S. Lewis once said, "Good rulers need good people, and good people need good rulers."

When we become "good people", we can elect "good rulers" and most of us will win.

Whether anyone likes it or not, there is an issue in the healthcare system, and we, as moral human beings (and if you're religious, you better be listening) need to step up and help our fellow man.

Most immigrants are looking for a better life. I, for one, am incredibly proud to be in a country others would die to be in, others would risk imprisonment, prejudice, and abuse to live in or to give their families a chance to live in. No, those who enter illegally should not be granted amnesty. There are rules. But we make it so difficult for them. We need stricter illegal immigrant laws, better enforcement AND a less complicated immigration system.

Party politics frustrates me like no other, because there's not nice medium, no morals. Just the left and right, red and blue, liberal and conservative. Until we realize we aren't bound by this ridiculous system, until we realize we need to get over our "party allegiance", we will never be indivisible, standing for liberty and justice FOR ALL.

What would Jesus do?

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Amen

I'm not political, but I get sick and tired of negative rants .....

Jessie

-- Posted by jessiemiller on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 2:27 PM
I guess I really meant that!

Jessie

-- Posted by jessiemiller on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 2:28 PM

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I fixed it! Took out the duplicate. p.s - I say Amen too!
Get ready !! You just opened the door for bazookaman to write his 5000 word essy on Obama and his path to having a socialism country run by czars and Nazi's

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM
I suppose I'm as prepared as a 16 year old will ever be to defend my (oh my!) slightly liberal opinions and observations.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 6:23 PM
Goodness. I just realized I haven't been sixteen for a whole month.

17 =)

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 6:24 PM
Obama's Words

One of the great strengths of the United States," the President said, "is ... we have a very large Christian population -- we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Apr 14, 2010, at 8:13 PM
WWJD? "Teach a man to fish..."

-- Posted by jtrotter on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM
Wow What a morning I was writing a long response to bazookaman wrapping it up when my computer shut down so here I am again making an attempt to rewrite it.

Yes bazookaman I lived in the 50's remember practicing to hide under my desk at school in case we got a bomb dropped on us. I remember every Friday my Mom giving me a dime so I could buy a stamp to put in my savings bond book. etc etc. I remember when JFK was President and the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Bay Of Pigs. Many people lived in fear and they were against JFK for getting us to that place. They also believed JFK plotted to kill Fidel Castro

I have seen many changes to our Country since that time. The time when it was safe for children to play outside, to walk to school and play outside after dark.

I can remember when the war was over in Viet Nam and our troops came home to people spitting on them calling them all kinds of names because they were serving our country a country when most people were against the war. I remember the protests well. I remember I wanted to be one of those Protesters, but couldn't because my husband was serving his country in the Air Force and I was not allowed to protest

There are many things I don't like now, for one our Secretary of Treasury Timothy Geithner he should not be in that position. I don't like that our space program is getting shut down, etc etc

However the way our country has been changing cannot all be blamed on Obama.

What I don't like is the people on Tv like Glen Beck, Rush L and several others for and against who spew hate and violence all for theTV Ratings and lining their pockets with money and while doing so there are the people who believe everything they hear.

I don't like when there are untruths thrown out there. I want to know the truth not made up lies or words spoken taken out of context.

Back when FDR was trying to push Social Security Through he was called a Nazi that he was pushing it to fast, he was leading our country to Socialism, they said it was unconstitutional.

After Social Security went through a law suit was filed to stop it however it passed any ways.

It is as if history is repeating itself.

Another thing you know as well as I do ALL politician's promise you the moon but in reality they really can't keep those promises, they can not pass laws or make decisions without congress.

I have not approved of the way our Country has been changing, every day we see more of our freedoms taken away even if they are for our protection.

Obama came into office when every thing was looking pretty grim. He said there would be changes and it was not going to be easy and it would take time to get things running on a smoother path.

Day one the Republicans started their campaign to out him from office by throwing lies out there, knit picked every time he moved or coughed.

Yesterday the news reported our economy is starting to go upward for the better but we are by no means out of it, the job numbers are still high but at least its a start some where.

Whew ! that's all I am writing for now, I got to get busy here and get some work done. :)

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 11:30 AM
bazookaman you mentioned Obama being on Jay Leno's show and he asked him about not wearing the flag pin

Well here is what he actually said. It happened before he was on Jay's show it was while he was campaigning

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/obamas-lapels/

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 11:46 AM
"What would Jesus do if he was infested with fleas, ticks, intestinal worms or other Divinely inspired parasites? Would Jesus protect himself from blood sucking mosquitos? Are you suggesting that denying disease spreading microbes a place to procreate in your blood is a moral issue?"

Are you saying that legal immigrants are comparable to fleas ticks intestinal worms or other parasites?

I'm not saying I think illegal immigrants are good for this country. But those that genuinely want to come here should not have to go through such a hassle. You are so scared by the media into thinking everyone with an Arab accent is a terrorist. Guess what? I met a very nice Arab man a couple months ago. People like you make it difficult for these immigrants who came here for a better life to gain that life.

I'm saying that if a man or woman is willing to go through a process (that currently is too difficult) to become an American citizen, then as HUMANS and some of us as CHRISTIANS should be willing to help a fellow human being if right off the bat they can not help themselves.

I'm severely disappointed in Americans and their attitudes towards helping each other. Free enterprise is failing our economy because we have to be willing to help out.

I'm also disappointed in the way Americans, who, once upon a time, were willing to stand up for what they believed in, and would not believe a word unless it was completely proven correct, now believe any little thing if it is typed.

And don't go crazy now, I'm referring to all parties.

-- Posted by lilmissmelmo on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 12:44 PM
Just a couple of things

jtrotter - Jesus didn't teach a man to fish, he fed him.

msmarylin - Thank you for the COMPLETE quote and link.

My brother and sister-in-law have worked their whole lives (50 years old, middle-class) and they have decided to sell their home because they have seen several family members lose everything they worked for all their lives because their loved one died, not quickly or easily but messy and drawn out. They figure the same will eventually happen to them so why try and have your own home when you will lose it to medical bills eventually anyway. Is this the American Dream?

I grew up during the 60's right here in this valley. I was molested as a child. Nothing was ever done because no one talked about that sort of thing then, it wasn't on the news it was hidden and was a shameful thing.

I don't think any politician is right about everything or wrong about everything. But the Republicans have lost my vote for the forseeable future because I believe they got us into Iraq on false pretenses and into this recession.

Let's redistribute the money a bit I think I can take care of it better than the guys making a hundred thousand/million/billion a year. If a million like me have the money to buy a washing machine that's a million washing machines, if the ten thousand that currently have the money buy a washing machine that's ten thousand washing machines unless, of course, they buy one for all 3 of their homes than that is thirty thousand washing machines. I know, I know a silly example but it's how I feel today.

Thanks

-- Posted by julyGirl on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM
julyGirl,

I never said Jesus said that. WWJD means what whould Jesus DO. If memory serves me, Jesus was all about helping those who would help themselves. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life is a Chinese proverb that provides a fine example of helping someone to help themself. Sorry you were confused.

-- Posted by jtrotter on Thu, Apr 15, 2010, at 1:46 PM
jtrotter

Thank you for your response, you are right.

-- Posted by julyGirl on Fri, Apr 16, 2010, at 7:21 AM
WWJD?

I dunno.

Was "J" a capitalist or a socialist?

Those who followed him back in His day may have been wrestling with that question as they witnessed their Father's Son's crucifixion.

-- Posted by DaveThompson on Sun, Apr 18, 2010, at 8:23 PM

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