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Noisy Parents

Posted Wednesday, May 5, 2010, at 2:23 PM

Noisy Parents Aren't Always The Best Parents

One day at work I met this lady who appeared to be looking to start some trouble. She was complaining about this and complaining about that. She was screaming about what was fair and what wasn't. I was finally able to calm her down with my spectacular people skills. What it all boiled down to was that she thought a situation was handled inappropriately with her child. As parents we have all been there and there is nothing wrong with defending our child when it is needed. After the first meeting with this lady I didn't think much about it. However this first visit was quickly followed by a second and a third and a fourth. It had been about a week and I had already seen her four times. She always had a complaint and was out for blood. She tried to convince us that her son had all of these problems and that he needed to be treated differently and that if he even came close to getting a scratch on the playground that we were to call her immediately. The fact is that the only thing wrong in her son's life was that his mother was very noisy. This kid has now learned that he can cry to mommy or complain about something to get his way. If he feels sick or gets a scratch mommy comes running over immediately and holds him in her lap and usually ends up taking him home or to the doctor. I admit that it is ridiculous. I have often contemplated how to get this lady less involved. I thought about trying to find her a boyfriend to keep her occupied. The next time I saw her she actually had one and he looked like a whipped little puppy on a leash (poor, poor man). I then thought well maybe she needs a job so that she can focus her energy elsewhere. However that wouldn't work because thanks to Washington, D.C. she can live like a leech on society without ever having to lift a finger. This kid is in the first grade and to tell the truth I am wishing that there was some way I could pass him on to middle school early. If only he was Doogie Houser.

I think that some parents feel they have to constantly defend their children and create uproar when things don't go their way. While they think they're helping all they really are doing is making it a lot more difficult for their kids. Kids need to be able to deal with some of this stuff on their own. The longer kids are babied the harder life will be for them. I coach baseball and we made a rule on our team. If the kids have something that is bothering them they need to talk to us coaches. We want it to come from them. If we have parents complaining about something to us we bench the kids and let them know that it was their parents fault. This rule proved to be quite successful this year. Our players grew up a lot because they learned how to communicate and express their thoughts and feeling to us. They're learning how to handle their own problems. This gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment knowing that they can do things on their own.

I love my kids and hate to see them hurting but there are times when they need to learn to endure things. Life isn't easy all the time and the earlier they learn this the better. Why not allow them to acquire some of these skills at an early age so that life does become easier. Our job as parents shouldn't be to take away these difficult times but to be there to help them sort through them. I worry that every time a parent gets noisy that their child takes a few steps back from independence.


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Thanks for the link. That was a very interesting article. As parents we try to make our children's lives better than ours was. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we still take time to allow them to learn and struggle as needed.

-- Posted by deccles on Mon, May 17, 2010, at 9:37 AM

Great blog. I couldn't agree with you more.

Here is an article that I found about a year ago that has some similar ideas...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30585984/

-- Posted by tiger87 on Thu, May 13, 2010, at 10:48 PM

Darks- I agree with you. At times there are underlying issues that need to be dealt with but in this case that isn't the problem. She just likes to be heard and she likes to be in the middle of things. We can debate the whole nature vs. nurture thing but I have been around in the field of counseling and psychology to see that some people are just a certain way because of basic genetics. Environment plays a huge role in who we are but it isn't always the main cause. These attributes which we have been given can be used at times and called our strengths, yet at the same time if they are used inappropriately they can be called weaknesses. In this case I would call it her weakness. But like you said it is just my opinion. I appreciate your comments, I like to here the opinions of others as well. Dialogue is what makes the blog more enjoyable.

Novia- We have tried having her help out and do things but while she is here she only causes problems. When she enters the building she is only allowed to go down the hallway if she is escorted by an administrator.

-- Posted by deccles on Tue, May 11, 2010, at 11:24 AM

Sometimes you have to step back from a situation to fully understand it. I assume your talking about a welfare mom and her child. She is part of a failing system that has taught her to be dependant. This mother is teaching her child that he can be dependant as well. She raises cane all the time because she wants to be heard and respected, which she may not get a lot of in normal society or in her day to day life.Find a way to make her an asset to your facility. Involve her make her feel important and I gurantee that if she fails you she will fail herself and you will see and hear from her a lot less!!!!

-- Posted by novia88401 on Mon, May 10, 2010, at 9:03 PM

Amen to that Malafunkshun Mountain Homie

-- Posted by DUMBFOUNDED IN IDAHO on Thu, May 6, 2010, at 5:13 AM

Wait...a...minute..there is a name for parents like those..they call them...HELICOPTER PARENTS!!!

-- Posted by Malafunkshun Mountain Homie on Wed, May 5, 2010, at 11:43 PM

Bench 'em and tell 'em it's their parents fault...priceless. Sage advice and direction.

-- Posted by junkyard dog on Wed, May 5, 2010, at 9:46 PM

Though I agree with many of the points, I think that it's pretty bold to ask, or make point for parents to let go, either figuratively or emotionally, of their children before the child or parent are ready or more importantly, at such a young age as mentioned. Unless there's a specific diagnosis of possible underlying behavioral issue or surmise the problems may be a symptom of a larger, more prevalent personality driven problem going on beyond publically displayed scenarios, all your asking is for the/a parent to 'get over it'. To me, the blog reads a lot more like a rant rather than sage advice. Unless there's a serious physiological situation, regardless of a counselors personal opinion, one who gives advice should be open minded and get to the core of the problem and advise or treat it. Which I might add, the issue is usually found in the parent alone and should be treated in order to prevent latent behavioral diversion in the child. Overprotective parents usually have ghosts hiding in some recessed behavioral closet and therefore, probably need to get that treated before they'll listen to advice which suggests relinquishing some control over their offspring. In short, your scenario of benching a child for communicating with the person who they societal/morally feel is who they're supposed to communicate with concerning feelings, is inadvertently instilling mistrust and dissension, in a household of which, unless you plan to help in the long run, shouldn't be involved in by removing fun activities. However, I completely understand when maliciousness begets maliciousness. A child will indeed run to their parents concerning problems that are within their realm of control to correct and indeed as well, this is a learned behavior. But quite frankly, if you're not in the position to fix that abuse of communication, then maybe you are the one that needs to cut the apron strings, and raise your children in the manner in which you see fit. Which appears to me to be a healthy and loving household and lifestyle. Despite all that, some very valid points are made here and those parents that don't have personality issues should take note.

-- Posted by Darksc8p on Wed, May 5, 2010, at 9:14 PM


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I am a school psychologist/counselor. I have been working in schools for 4 years. Part of that time as a school psychologist and most recently as an elementary school counselor. I have also worked in a program that was designed for children who were emotionally disturbed, or in other words children who displayed very challenging behaviors. I have a Master's degree in Psychology and an Education Specialist degree. I am currently finishing my certification for school counseling and working on becoming a licensed practicing counselor. I am married and a parent of two beautiful and funny children. They keep me on my toes and provide a lot of stuff to blog about.
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