Obama Is Awesome Part 2

Sis....Boom.....Bah!

Anyone seen MsMarylin's megaphone?

This is one of those blogs that make me mad....mad that that's 3 minutes of my time I'll never get back.

Buckshot61 sorry which part were you disappointed about? The part that says The GOP Candidates aren't showing much? Or there's a great possibility Omaba is going to win ! The last sentence is not a question its a fact ..... In my Opinion !

bob8492 Did you want to talk about Obama Care?

Zook Their still counting votes in Maine...What's up with the Republicans there? Each voting twice?

If Obamacare is so good.....why are those 545 "ELITE" back there not enrolled?

And WHY did Obamacare "poster-children" Reid & Pelosi get THEIR constituents EXEMPTED from it?

Zook Don't you get your health care though the Government?

I'm sure he did as well as all of them who are in the Military and who are retired Military.

My husband also gets our insurance via the Government...

I wanted to talk about choices

Zook Your forgetting back in 1937 we had social security forced upon us. Was that unconstitutional?

And when the Military changed to Tri-care did you get a chance to say NO I don't want it. I want to stay with what you gave me when i signed up?

Zook I know when you signed up you were to get medical care if you stayed in long enough to get covered for life. But when you had the option to change to tri-care what would of happened if you elected to not buy into it. What would of happened if you said I am staying with the way my health plan has always been, I don't want it?

What I am trying to say

Back in 1937 when social security was challenged in court.. It still was put in place........ so it wasn't unconstitutional Right? And if it wasn't what is the difference between that decision and the decision the Supreme Court has to make on Obama Care. What is the difference in the two?

Third time now...........the difference is the MANDATE!-------------whereas you will HAVE NO CHOICE, and will be FINED if you do NOT partake.

Do you realize that this administration is hiring an ADDITIONAL 16,000 brand new IRS agents....whose SOLE PURPOSE IN LIFE will be to MONITOR this?

If you thought the IRS was "intrusive" ALREADY........just stand by!...........

Why is it that when you don't agree with liberals and what they want, you're labeled "extreme"? Couldn't it just be a difference in opinion and a desire to stick with our Constitution, a document that's proven itself now for over 200 years?

I forgot to include the link I was talking about in my last post

Here it is

http://sanluisvalleyhealth.org/individua...

I guess that thought would come from having to pay into Social Security, which also went to the Supreme Court, it was approved any ways.

Dry sand, junkyard dog?

Maybe to a pooch looking for a place to urinate. But for the MAJORITY of us, we see Obamacare as yet ANOTHER means of control. Kindly show me in our constitution where it specifically states that the government will manage, control, and supply healthcare??

You liberals do this crap everytime. You bring up something else to try to justify what the current issue is about. Smoke and mirrors because you can't debate the real issue. This isn't about Social Security. This isn't about Medicare. This is about federal government telling ME I MUST PAY for a product, and at the same time, telling others they don't have to pay into it at all. This only sounds "fair" if you, sir, have YOUR head anchored in dry sand.

Oh please, Mr. Bondy....

You get no emmy or fame here, just like you got no emmy for your dramatic role of posing as a "Republican" when you threw your hat in the ring for city council.

There is nothing "lazy" about the question I posed. The answer is crystal clear....there is NO PLACE IN OUR CONSTITUTION THAT GIVES THIS POWER TO OUR GOVERNMENT. Now, lawyers being lawyers, and more specifically, LIBERAL lawyers being liberal lawyers, they will, once again, try to play word games with our life's blood document -- they'll try to twist it so that "general welfare" means "healthcare" Or maybe they'll construe it to mean "regulating interstate commerce". Only an embicile or "lazy" person wouldn't have the ambition or sense to see right through this little charade. I have a strong belief that, if our founding fathers MEANT healthcare, they'd have PUT IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Why is it, if this is a "fair and constitutional" law, does it EXCLUDE certain people and shift their healthcare burden to others? Are you REALLY going to sit there and tell me this is what our founding fathers envisioned all along? No sale, here, Mr. Bondy.

Michael Boldin, founder of The Tenth Amendment Center, apparently agrees with me, or is employing the same "lazy" thinking I am, according to you, Mr. Bondy. Because the power to regulate each citizen's medical care is not included among enumerated powers, Boldin said, the federal government does not have the authority to impose a single-payer system.

"You have to look to the Constitution and ask, 'Is health care listed?'" Boldin said. "No. It's not."

"Is health care directly necessary and proper to carrying out any of the listed powers such as creating post offices and national defense?"

He said critics might argue that to have a good national defense, the United States must make sure that everyone is healthy.

"But that would not fall under any definition of what's considered necessary and proper," he said.

Furthermore, he cited the 10th Amendment, which states:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Some proponents of federal health care have argued that every citizen must be treated equally, and the current health care system is an example of gross inequality that runs contrary to principles of the 14th Amendment. They say wealthy people are able to afford and obtain medical treatment while the less fortunate are left to suffer when they are unable to pay for an operation or treatment.

"That argument would lead to a crazy slope where you could say everyone should have the exact same car," Boldin said. "Then we should have the same guarantee of transportation to get to work, the same guarantee of food and shelter. Should we all have equal homes? I mean, if someone wants to make that argument, they have to make some serious changes to the Constitution to authorize it."

He said regardless of their political affiliation or position on health care, citizens must ask themselves whether they truly want a government that has no limits.

"No matter what side you are on, you don't want a government that can do whatever it wants whenever it wants because it becomes dangerous," Boldin said. "This is what the Founding Fathers and the entire founding generation had to fight against -- a king who could set his own rules and make them up as he goes. Rules may not be a wonderful thing, but when you allow government to do whatever it wants, you are guaranteeing tyranny."

And then there's the issue of whether or not WE, the people, WANT Obamacare in the first place. According to every poll out there, the MAJORITY of Americans want it repealed:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...

Obamacare would also make our economy even worse than it is now. The legislation requires employers to provide insurance for employees or pay a penalty, forcing businesses to hire fewer employers, keep wages down, and reduce investments. As a result, business will suffer, which could translate into higher prices for consumers.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/20/turn...

Now, I could go on Mr. Bondy, but I'm just now realizing that you can lead a donkey to water, but you cannot make him drink, and I'm relatively certain, you aren't the least bit thirsty.

Smoke and mirror tactics are used by liberals, Mr. Bondy. They're really your only hope of getting such an economically crippling, freedom-killing law like Obamacare passed.

The next time you want to debate, kindly do it without the "elitist" mentality and veiled insults. Thanks!

My opinion Obamacare will get approved by the court.

If we have Social Security and Vehicle Insurance why would having a mandate on health care be any different.

You might say because those that don't buy Obamacare will be fined, however what happens to those that choose to drive without insurance or an employer not taking money out of your pay check for SS.. To me it's the same thing just a different mandate

DID OBAMA CREAT THE RECESSION??? DOES THE ECONOMY RISE AND FALL??? HOW DOES A PRESIDENT DICTATE THE ECONOMY????? yniashi...use your head and please answer these questions....i used mine and asked them.....

Heck no, Mr. Bondy,

I didn't do a lot of research at all on this issue, remember? You stated my question was "either a lazy one or someone is trying to mislead us with their own smoke and mirrors."

The question still remains, however, and the answer will now come from the Supreme Court. Considering Obama's recent appointments to that court, it will be interesting to see if they TRULY uphold our Constitution or, again, try to legislate from the bench. Elena Kagan is one judge that SHOULD recuse herself from this decision because she's already intimated her bias.

Only in Bizarro World can you claim someone is your attorney -- and thus shielded by attorney work-product privilege -- and then insist in the very next breath that they never represented you. But that is what the Obama administration and Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan are doing. The Obama administration refuses to release its communications with Kagan about health care litigation back when she was the administration's Solicitor General, on the grounds that they are covered by attorney work-product protection. Yet, contradictorily, it and Kagan insist that she never acted as the administration's lawyer in the matter, and thus doesn't need to recuse herself from hearing the constitutional challenges to Obamacare that will be decided by the Supreme Court this year.

Law Professor Ronald Rotunda, the co-author of a leading constitutional law treatise, says that Kagan should have recused herself from hearing the case based on the federal statute, 28 U.S.C. 455(b)(3), that forbids former government attorneys like Kagan from being involved in cases they earlier were consulted on, and the Judicial Conference's ethical guidance for federal judges.

http://www.openmarket.org/2012/01/30/jus...

But I'll be willing to bet this plant of Obama's has zero interest in complying with any previous laws, and I fully expect her to weigh in on this matter, even though, it's quite clear she'd be in violation. She doesn't care, and clearly, neither does Obama.

It IS a simple, clear-cut issue, Mr. Bondy. It IS unconstitutional, no question about it. What remains to be seen is if Obama's stacked the deck enough for this to be foisted on the American people, just as it was foisted on us when the Democrats mustered enough of their own party votes to pass it.

And never mind what the MAJORITY of Americans have to say about it, right Mr. Bondy? You actually cracked me up when you stated you had no idea why, regardless of what the majority of Americans want, this has anything to do with its constitutionality. Someone running for city council should have enough common sense to realize the Constitution was written FOR the people, BY the people. And as such, NO LAWS should be written that exclude or show favoritism to any specific group of people. Obamacare does. So no, Mr. Bondy, the question at hand is one we already KNOW the answer to. The question we don't know is if the Supreme Court, now stacked with liberals, will do their sworn duty and act accordingly.

And I never attacked you at all, Mr. Bondy. I was simply there that night you stood up in front of all of us, before the city council vote, and very sheepishly announced you were a Republican. You didn't fool anyone then, and you're not fooling anyone now. But don't act like my statement of fact is an "attack" when it was YOU that uttered the words. I don't forget when someone stretches the truth....ever.

For those who like to do research, here's a link to a list of items one may sort through if one is inclined to do so.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?...

"elitist mentality"...is your mirror still broken?

BTW, I still don't get where the "you liberals" tag comes from whenever someone questions, without chastisement, your opinion.

Why do some people feel they have to insult or demean others to make their point? All they're really doing is setting up barriers to understanding the other person's point of view. If you ever want total agreement, all you have to do is talk to yourself...outside of that exclusive audience, if you don't want to know what others think, don't ask.

Or, as Momma used to warn, "If you're gonna show your butt, don't be suprised if someone takes a swat at it."

I don't know what their problem is Buckshot. WE don't mind when someone calls US "Conservatives"....fact is, we tend to be proud of that and say "thank you."

I think voting for Zook or Buckshot makes it clear Obama will be re-elected..... HA !

Marilyn Unapologetic !!!

Speaking of Obama he made the right decision apologizing for OUR Troops burning Korans... We invade THEIR country burn THEIR Korans which puts OUR troops in Jeopardy.

8 people have already been killed today 2/24/12

Lets pray the violence stops

Bill Maher gives Obamas super pac ONE MILLION DOLLARS

Jessie you can write their names in.....

The correct action at this point to end the violent attacks against US and UN troops in afghanistan right now would be to send troops out the front gate armed to the teeth to END the attacks.... The ONLY thing the people there respect is VIOLENCE AND DEATH!

Them or your's or your neighbor's sons or daughters??????

For any American citizen the answer is clear or SHOULD be.

Jessie

I'm sorry if I upset you. I understood along time ago who will NOT vote for Obama and that's ok because we have that freedom to choose...

Hard to believe, ain't it yniashi?

If Obama is a Dictator you would of already been rounded up and sitting in a cell....

There's that word, "you" again...my response is: YOU have no idea what my agenda is.

yniashi

I guess you have never lived under a Dictator??? You don't know what your talking about!

No-I guess I have never lived under a

Dictatorship before.

I'm feeling like I don't like it. The

Obama-Obiden Administration is really the

first time that I have felt that We the People

have no control of our own country.

I will be very glad when November

comes and just hope we can survive until

then. Pretty scary.

Buckshot61, When did Obama say that?

...and you support the misguided vision of Obama when he stated "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Would you like to know where Obama got this, Dog? From Karl Marx, himself.

Amuzeme,

He's stated it 100 times if he's stated it once, just NOT in the Karl Marx context. I PURPOSELY put it out there the way I did because I knew it would draw liberal flies. Thank you for getting stuck on the flypaper.

Here are a few choice quotes from your hero:

"My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

"I Do Think at Some Point You've Made Enough Money"

"Generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties"

"In the end, service binds us to each other, to our communities, and to our country in a way that nothing else can. That's how we become more full American. That's what it means to be an American"

"I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But, just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right"

"Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential"

"If the people cannot trust their government to do the job for which it exists - to protect them and to promote the common welfare - all else is lost"

"This is a moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably"

And then there's this right out of the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUfo-RxkX...

Thanks for falling into the trap, Amuzeme. Now, I'm SURE you'll try to refute that all this doesn't mean he specifically stated what Marx stated all those years ago. But when you say what Obama's said, does it really matter if it's verbatim?

Hardly an ego thing, amuzeme. But hey, call facts whatever you want. The important thing is that you RECOGNIZE them as such.

MsMarylin, your statement is so over the top, so filled with gutteral emotion, so devoid of logic and common sense that it defies a civil and intellectual response.

The MAJORITY of Americans were hoodwinked last election MsMarylin (notice I'm saying that, and NOT that Obama stole the election....like the morons on the left did when Bush won).

Making a mistake isn't necessarily dumb or ignorant if you LEARN from it. Based on current poll numbers it would appear many have.....except YOU, which comes as zero surprise.

Then I would say that America, that once standing beacon of freedom and good, has finally fallen to the stupidity of unintelligent breast feeders that would give up their freedom to replace it with lifelong servitude for the federal government. The election is a long way off, and only an ignorant cheerleader would be crowing about victory for Obama at this point in time.

Is that just unbridled immature ignorance, or do you have a crystal ball?

What kind of drugs are you on to think that the majority of Americans would want more of this? You're kooky!

Let's see:

* Higher unemployment

* Higher gas prices

* Higher food prices

* Higher debt

* Alienation of more Christian religions

* Apologizing/prostrating himself to muslims

* Continued ignorance of our Constitution

* Continued actions as though he were a dicator

* Continued class warfare

* Continued stoking the fires of racism

* Obamacare

Did I leave anything out? Sometimes you can do that when you can rattle off 11 things without even having to think about it.

First off all the items on your list won't matter because of who will go up against him and they can't beat him.

My reasoning isn't because of one poll. I also had a list .........a list of polls and most showed he was ahead.

I'll look for my list again today and give you a link..

There was 2 things he was down in the polls, one was obamacare and I can't remember the other one right now... I need coffee lol!

MsMarylin,

No need. Polls are for you obama zombies that purposely skew questions to favor your crowned prince. The ONLY poll that really matters is in November on election day. The other stuff is just fluff.

Quote a poll and then claim they skew questions? Make your mind up Sybil, make your mind up.

MsMarylin........you say people would be "idiots' if they voted for one of the GOP candidates.....

Baed upon the 2008 election........what makes you think that couldn't happen AGAIN?

None of the GOP candidates are so sympathetic to Islam that it would cause a controversy about what religion they belong to. None of the GOP candidates have issues with birth certificates. None of the GOP candidates are playing the race card and instigating class warfare. None of the GOP candidates are blowing money on green energy. None of the GOP candidates want to stifle oil exploration and drilling in this country.

Rant on, Ms. Cheerleader, your posts are getting dingier by the day.

Hey MsCheerleader,

Since you're a "poll worshipper", did you check out the latest poll today?

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16 (see trends). That's the president's lowest rating in over a month.

Matchups between President Obama and GOP hopefuls shift along with the president's Job Approval ratings. As a result, with the president's overall approval ratings down six points since Valentine's Day, the general election polling is looking weaker for the incumbent. It remains to be seen, of course, if this is merely statistical noise or a lasting change signaling that the president's recent bounce in the polls has come to an end.

For the first time since late December 2011, Mitt Romney leads the president in a hypothetical 2012 matchup. Romney earns 45% of the vote, while the president attracts support from 43%. Romney holds a nine-point advantage among unaffiliated voters.

For the first time ever, Texas Congressman Ron Paul also leads the president (you know, that cute little man). In that matchup, 43% prefer Paul and 41% Obama. Ten percent (10%) would vote for some other option, a figure that includes 17% of Republicans.

Overall, 45% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) at least somewhat disapprove.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...

Hi There Buckshot61

yup I read the Rasmussen report earlier today. I'm not to worried that's not a very wide margin and those numbers can move up and down until November.

Tomorrow could be a big day for a turn of events with your beloved Candidates. Who will win in the Primaries? My bet it will be Romney and the cute little man will be blown away.... I really hate to see him leaving the trail.... "Happy trails to you until we meet again" Catchy tune.... Maybe he will try again in 2016

Welcome aboard MrMister I hope you enjoy your stay. Sometimes it gets a little lonely out here having to deal with the deslusional do gooder's who really aren't doing any good....

oops where's the spell checker??