Missouri Leader in Puppy millsPosted Monday, April 11, 2011, at 12:57 PM
Puppy mills are every where and in every state, including Idaho, after doing research we have one .... but the state that has the most is Missouri.
What is a puppy mill ? Puppy mills are commercial breeders who bred dogs for Profit not for the health or quality of the generic quality and the pups often end up having birth defects. The pups are sold in pet stores usually through a broker and the papers on them are usually falsified. You see that cute little puppy in the pet store with a hefty price tag that goes with it, think again before buying. Most of these pups come with illness and once you take the puppy home and to a veterinarian you could be told of some underling issue that didn't present itself when looking at it in the pet store.
Meanwhile back at the mill the parents of this puppy is sitting in a wire cage, and the cages are stacked on top of each other. They never see vet care and their lucky if they get to eat every day. Their never groomed and have no socialization. You ask why is this allowed to happen? Missouri is an agriculture state and in the writing of the laws for breeders it states they are considered live stock. If they ever took these two words out "Live Stock" then I hope these mills would get shut down . However if they did that over 1,000 mills would close down and those people would have to find another way to make their living.
When a female has health problems or gets to old to bred some of the more compassionate breeders might offer them to a dog rescue group. The others well I don't even want to tell you how they dispose of them
I was a board member of a dog rescue group and through the years adopted 4 mill dogs from Missouri. In Missouri they also have dog auctions, its sort of like a breeder meet up so if they are wanting to pick up another dog for breeding this would be the event to go to. I have gone to these, and they are held in a barn and no camera's are allowed to be brought in. After years of fighting for better laws concerning puppy mills they are suppose to have a USDA license , however because of lack of enforcement and not reported there are still many mills that don't have a license. I hope everyone will continue the fight to end animal cruelly Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Somebody was telling me once, that these "puppy mills" are one of the reasons some of these pit bulls tend to go berserk----from all the in-breeding.
Ever heard of anything like that?
Zook That could be, I'll see if I can find some information for you.
What I do know is they are a cross breed of Terrier and Bull Dog. Terriers can be aggressive dogs, even my little Male yorkshire terrier can be aggressive towards other dogs, and he doesn't use any logic when approaching a dog bigger then him. He could certainly be the aggressor when meeting up with a bigger dog. When I take him for walks on a leash I pick him up when someone is walking towards us with a bigger dog. I pick him up not that I am worried the bigger dog will attack him, but that he will be the one to start trouble.
There are 3 kinds of pit bulls
American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
They're all genetically the same, the titles are from when UKC,AKC, and ADBA(american dog breeders association, only for pitbulls) were trying to have the breeds recognized with these groups The reason they became seperate is the americans didn't like the pit dog(what pits were called during the bull/bear baiting days)stigma from england so they named it the stafforshire terrier. What it boils down to now is stafforshires are basically the show version of the pit as their lines conform more to the conformation set forth by AKC.. But they're a great breed and it's unfortunate to see the bad press the media feeds our parnoid country about these dogs. As for puppy mills, the owners should be drug into the street and shot
Zook I did a search about inbreeding of pits in the mills and didn't come up with anything.
I know that this does go on in the mills so I imagine it is done.
While searching for information I came across this site http://pitbullregistry.com/Inbreeding.ht...
and it gives a lot of information about the pitbull.
There are airlines that won't fly these dogs and they are banned in some cities
Just curious Marylin, 'cause that's what I've heard. Thanks.
I bought a rare breed of puppy last year from what I am sure would be considered a Missouri puppy mill. I went to the facility in north central Missouri to check out the puppy and found that the breeder had about ten different breeds of dogs. Unlike the pictures in the article, however, this breeder had the dogs separated by breed in dog runs that were partially inside and partially outside a well-maintained building with concrete floors. When it was wet, cold, hot or dark, the dogs could come inside or go outside at will. The facility was clean, did not smell, and the people were exceptionally nice. Instead of paying $2,000 for a puppy, I paid $250. I also received the AKC registration papers. Is our dog championship quality? Of course not. Was the puppy well socialized and used to playing with people? No. After a year though, she remains a cute, healthy, companionable, spoiled and much-loved pet. One of the reasons that the puppy mills exist is because so many of the so-called quality breeders are outright crooks who ask outrageous prices for animals that are sometimes little better than the puppy mill products. Over the years, I have owned seven pure breed dogs and one mutt from the pound (which truthfully was the best dog of the lot). At least half of the breeders were dishonest in their representations of the dogs. You could eliminate most of the puppy mills if reputable breeders sold their animals at reasonable prices. Pet stores do not want to risk selling sick or inferior puppies, and would buy from good breeders if they could do so at a price that was not outright robbery.
A very good friend of mine is a veterinarian. I remember him telling me one time, that most of these "papered & pedigreed" dogs seem to have their own little unique problems, depending on the breed.
"When somebody brings in a MUTT", he ued to say, "it's usually just for a checkup or shots."
Ajord How did you find out about the Kennel you bought your dog from? Not all kennel owners are the same as a Puppy Mill..... In recent years with the public made awareness of what has been going on with Kennels, they have put a few regulations in place. They have surprise inspections, before they always knew when they would be inspected.
I think the best thing to do is always know who your buying a dog from and get references..
I have in the past checked out the newspapers and then checked out the pet stores and usually what was offered in the paper was a lower price then what was in the pet store.
Zook I have had a lot of dogs purebred and mixed breeds and mine seemed to have the normal health problems nothing out of the ordinary. I bet I know who your friend the vet is .........Seen him and Sally the other day....
Without doubt there are going to be kennels that truly love the dogs/animals they're raising. They take pride in the care they provide. And without doubt, there will be the others. It's always going to be that way. The rest of us need to continue to be watchful and continue to make the be accountable.
I've had purebred dogs and horses. And I've had muts of both dogs and horses too. I've had exceptional animals either way. And some not so great, whether purebred or mutt. The difference for ME came if I wound up with a purebred animal of exceptional quality, THAT became one more likely to sell better. But I wouldn't always even say that Registration Papers were necessary.
My favorite dog Rufus was a pound puppy. He was loyal, loving, protective, ...he was everything I wanted him to be. And he was healthy nearly to the day he died.
I have purebred dogs that are loyal, loving, protective and all that stuff. We bred them, we know exactly what they are. When we have pups, they are claimed as soon as the female is known to be pregnant.
I've been complained at for raising puppies, because there are so many pound puppies. And yep, I get a bit offended for someone telling me I shouldn't do that. I'm a dang strong believer in pound puppies. I have one now. Scout was a pound puppy, and he's a great dog.
But there is no question about the quality of dogs we raise for exceptional working dogs. They have an instinct for what they do, that I'll probably never tire of watching. And the help they provide is nothing short of outstanding on a cold/hot/long/miserable day. I can not begin to tell you how they are appreciated.
We have a kennel, but they are out every day and run and play in the yard with the older dogs. And with us. They are allowed to be happy dogs.
Honestly, I've forgotten my point...so anyway, have a great day!
Jessie
Jessie I don't think your in the same class as the Puppy Mills....:)
We had a mixed breed dog named Rufus. He was the best dog, so laid back and got along with the other dogs. He was my Husbands Mother's dog we got for her at the shelter in Boise when she lived here. She then moved back to California and took Rufus with her and when she died, we took a road trip to Cali, for her funeral and we brought Rufus home with us. He lived with us a very long time and lived to be 16 years old, which I think is very remarkable. He lost his hearing and eye sight and had Arthritis where he close to the end couldn't walk. Because of his blindness he needed to be near me all the time. I would put my hand in front of his nose and he would follow me to his bed for the night which was in the bedroom. Sure miss him....
The dogs I have now are all purebred but the papers aren't at all important to me. I don't breed dogs they are my children. lol !
My Rufus was given to my daughter when she was 10. A good friend of mine gave her to her. And she picked him from the pound. Rufus chose me however...which did not thrill my daughter. Not that he didn't love Katie, but he just attached to me. I kind of feel that we don't own them.... they let us be theirs. I was his.
Nah, I was thinking you'd think we were like a puppy mill. Was just talking purebred vs mutt. And for the record, ours are not papered. We just know the long lineage, and they are proven "working dogs" ...not for show. They wouldn't qualify.
I met a lady on Monday that was just going thru town on her way from AZ to Canada. She needed a place to park her "live in" trailer and put her horse. (Somehow every now and then, I get these calls) (it's a cool way to meet all kinds of people) She was a single woman aged 65 who went "here and there" to "cowboy" How awesome is that? Anyway We were talking the other day about good "working show dogs" vs "working dogs" And we all agreed that often show dogs work precisely to every little whistle and cue, and never do anything without being told. Our dogs can "Go way out" and go til they can't be seen, and come back with cows we didn't even know were there. THAT is awesome! If they'd been out there waiting for a whistle, it'd be a mess. Ours have the ability to "figure out where we're heading and do their part" We have humans out there that can't do that!
I don't think show dogs have much of a life, your dogs know they are loved and they give you back so much more.
WOW ! That old Cowgirl would be someone I would of like to have met...
The 4 mill dogs that I adopted each have a story to tell. I only have one still here and her's is probably the worse story to tell.... She was so abused. It took us 2 years for her to trust us enough to let us touch her. We always had to chase and corner her in the house just to pet her. She followed me where ever I went but I couldn't touch her.
We now have a cat living in our house like that. lol !
That cowgirl woman was very interesting. She got to my house about 7:30, so we only visited for a couple hours that evening. We said goodbye in the morning and off she went.
She was 65, and had lots of stories to tell of her cowboying. It was awesome to talk to someone who really 'understood' the life. (You can tell when someone has up and decided to buy some boots and be a cowboy) And she had a nice horse that was obviously well taken care of and trusted her. Easy to tell that he worked and was in great condition. The woman herself looked awesome for 65. Hair in a pony tail of blond hair. And what was funny, is when she got out of her pickup for the first time, we looked at each other and laughed. We were dressed identically, with blond pony tails! She will be back thru in November, on her way to cowboy again in warmer weather, and I believe she'll be stopping in.
Maybe if she stops on her way back she will stay longer and share more stories and then you can share with us. Oh and get pictures :)
For sure. I'd have taken pics, but I do try not to get my camera out in the first seconds of seeing someone one.
And yep, will share her stories.
Yep MsMarylin.............you know who my friend is!
In response to the question about how I found out about the kennel in north central Missouri where I bought my puppy, I went to puppyfind.com and searched for a pup. I found several puppies of the breed that I wanted, all of which were located in Missouri. I then started calling and checking out the sellers. Basically, finding a well-kept kennel was a bit of an accident. Since I happened to be visiting family in Kansas City anyway, it was easy for me to drive a few hours and see the facility in person. That is obviously not a realistic option for most people in Idaho, who would normally just pay the money, including the high shipping costs, and hope for the best.
Ajord
It's certainly is costly to have them shipped to Idaho. You got to be careful buying a dog over the internet, a lot of the mill owners have web sites and they advertise.
Enjoy your puppy !