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Huh? Obama fulfilled promise?

Posted Wednesday, December 8, 2010, at 8:58 AM

Quote from James Bovard

"To blindly trust government is to automatically vest it with excessive power. To distrust government is simply to trust humanity - to trust in the ability of average people to peacefully, productively coexist without some official policing their every move. The State is merely another human institution - less creative than Microsoft, less reliable than Federal Express, less responsible than the average farmer husbanding his land, and less prudent than the average citizen spending his own paycheck." Source: Freedom in Chains, The Rise of the State and the Demise of the Citizen (St. Martin's Press), 2000

Obama stated in his speech concerning extending the "Bush" tax cuts "My number one priority was to do what's right for the American people, for jobs and for growth." He wants to make sure "that tens of thousands of taxpayer's paychecks won't shrink just because the people in Washington are busy trying to score political points. Because of this, American middle class will not see a tax increase just like I promised." (yeah, a campaign promise honored?) Well, it may seem that he is doing as he promised, but it should be noted that it is not Obama's tax cuts but just an extension of Bush's tax cuts. He didn't make a better tax plan Obama spent the majority of his time telling the country what a horrible President that Bush was. He would normally speak out against anything connected to Bush just because he hates him and his Adminitration. It was ridiculous how obvious it was! Then our leader spent more time not only trashing the past, but he publically apologized to other nations for our behavior. What a farce! Don't get me wrong! I am glad for the people. Thank goodness this was resolved for another 2 years.


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watch it Kim, the standard group of Obama lovers is going to come swoop in and try to silence you by labeling you as:

"racist" "nazi" "hater" "bigot" "prejudiced" "closed minded" "anti American" etc. etc. ......

Pretty much ANY of the politically harsh terms they can attempt to put on you to silence your sharing honest representation of facts.

The liberal point of view:

"we know what is best for you and you will take it and like it OR ELSE"

What gets to me the most is when I read some of the very hateful postings about the evil "rich" people in this country the persons that come online and spew hate like that are really doing nothing more than showing their jealous envy.... and believing demoRAT leaders LIES they are some of the wealthiest politicians in this country. (WHAT IS IT 7 OUT OF THE TOP 10 WEALTHIEST POLITICIANS ARE DEOMRATS?)

Problem the fools don't seem to understand is the demoRATS don't want to share THEIR money, they want everyone elses to spread around....

JUST LIKE A BUNCH OF LEMMINGS HEADED TO THE CLIFF!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by cant justwatch on Wed, Dec 8, 2010, at 11:12 AM

You "mean-spirited, tea-bagging, NAZI racist you! Just because the liberals want to bite hands that provide the jobs..........you rightwing radicals get SO upset!

The man PROMISED "CHANGE", didn't he? Well, we've been getting it! You rightwing extremists out there, who "cling to your guns and religion" like they MEANT something, need to give the president all the credit he's due. He said all during the campaign that he would "change this country." Didn't he say that?

YES HE DID!

YES WE CAN!

You guys are still just mad because he's black.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Dec 8, 2010, at 4:43 PM

Obama compromised with the Republicans (am I correct?) Republicans wanted the Bush Tax cuts to stay. Obama made a deal with them that the Bush Tax cuts could stay if we allowed another 13 months extension on the unemployment. Do I have the facts right Kim?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Wed, Dec 8, 2010, at 5:00 PM

LOL,

Look who is the "party of no" now....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/...

The liberal babbling point about republiCROOKs ruining and fighting everything doesn't sound so solid when the demoRATs can't even work with THEIR OWN demoRAT president.... Hmmmm

-- Posted by cant justwatch on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 11:50 AM

Hey.............folks...........it's not January 1st yet. The Dems STILL have total control.....ie: The Oval Office and BOTH HOUSES!

Their continual blaming of the Republicans as some kind of impediment doesn't hold any water.

As of RIGHT NOW, the Democrats STILL control the House, and WILL still control the Senate...........and Obama will STILL have the final pen.

The Republicans CANNOT hold up a THING as of yet.

If all the Democrats were on the same page with Obama, all this would have been a "done-deal" by now.

What the Dems are seeing right now, is an inner-family feud within their own party.

Those "evil" Republicans do not yet have the votes to stop ANY leftwing bills. The Dems hold "all the cards", as they have for the past two years, and STILL can't get it done.

That isn't OUR fault. If all these bills and taxes were such good ideas, every Democrat in both houses would be on board with it.

The House just passed the amnesty bill (dream act), because the Republicans didn't have the votes to defeat it (they WOULD have in January, which is why the Dems were working overtime to get it done before the "clock strikes twelve.")

Now it goes to Harry Reid's Senate, where they ALSO have the majority. But Reid wants his OWN bill passed, because the Senate version would give the illegals even MORE.

From 2006 until this coming New Year, the Democrats have had COMPLETE control of Congress, and an "automatic pen" in the Oval office for the past TWO years. The Republicans could growl and say "NO" all they want........but they have NOT had the votes to back it up.

He got his stimulous and Obamacare passed, even without the bills being read. If he's having trouble now and fails to get what he wants, it's because HIS party has hobbled him, not the GOP.

They can cry and point fingers until doomsday, but they still hold the numbers. Numerically, they can do anything they want, and the Republicans might as well not even BE there because until January first, they can't stop ANYTHING!

No.......all this crap and debate that's going on right now,-------- is an all-democrat show.

I also think it's a pretty clear example of why the Dems should NOT be in power---------they're more concerned about "what's politcally smart for ME", than "what's right for the country."

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:52 AM

Hitting the nail on the head B-man. Dems have control yet will always make sure that the media thinks that the Reps are the problem. Exactly the statement that I would make; "what is smart for me, politically rather than what is RIGHT!

-- Posted by kimkovac on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 7:22 AM

HATE....i dont remember this administration using that terminology,but if they have enlighten me please.THE book you quote based on its publication date should then apply to the Bush administration also is that correct?lets back up and consider the rational for the taxe cuts when they were made,THAT RATIONAL WAS IF THE GOVERNMENT HAS A SURPLUS IT COLLECTED TO MUCH WE SHOULD GIVE IT BACK...OK. AND TO GUARD AGAINST A PROBLEM WE WILL SUNSET THIS( code for time limit).

THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE CUT ,THE PROBLEM IS THE BUDGET PROCESS,,The budget is based on what we EXPECT TO HAVE NOT WHAT WE HAVE.USING THAT RATIONAL FOR THE CUT, TAXES SHOULD GO UP.Now thinking smaller we have the same problem in our state and town .IF LETS SAY WE COULD ONLY SPEND IN 2013 WHAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECT IN 2010 THE PROBLEM WOULD START TO GO AWAY ,BUT THE LAW DOESNT ALLOW THAT AND THE FEDS NO DIFFERENT.

IT would be nice when you denergrate somone or something that you give the whole thing some thought outside of your ideology.Bite the hand that feeds.... what a statement. I work for mine and i dont know any super rich person that hands out anything,as a matter of fact the vast majority of them are saying THERE TAXES SHOULD GO UP,SO HOW DID THAT GET LOST IN THE DISCUSSION?? ME i dont know how i got to be considered middle class but thats a joke,the insurance co make sure that doesnt happen for any of us.

For some KIM this man will do nothing right,and the put down started the the night of the elction.

ILL SAY IT AGAIN... TO BE THE SAME AS YOU HAVE TO BE BETTER THAN...THATS HARD TO ACCEPT ON BOTH SIDES BUT THE TRUTH HURTS....I FOR ONE EXPECTED BETTER FROM MY COUNTRYMAN.... MAKES ONE THINK YOU SERVED YOUR COUNTRY FAITHFULLY FOR 28 YRS AND YOUR STILL HEARING THE SAME THINGS JUST BARELY DISGUISED

ITS LIKE ME COMMENTING ABOUT BUSINESS AND SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING GRASS,THEY DIDNT ASK WHAT KINDA BUSINESS THEY MADE AND ASSUMPTION BASED ON THEIR PERCEPTION.PLAYING SOMEWHERE WITH MUSIC IN FRONT OF ME AND THE COMMENT."YOU can read music" how insulting, I WANT TO SCREAM WHY DO YOU THINK THE BOOK IS THERE? 20 yrs ago.. NO I AM TALKING ABOUT NOW,TODAY.RUSH AND HIS BIGOTED REMARKS AND PEOPLE FIND THAT OK.... SOMEBODY tell ME WHYYyyyyyyyyyyy KIM........IM LISTENING

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 10:47 AM

From what I understand Bush's tax cut's for the wealthy are about to expire. The Republicans don't want them to expire they want them to continue. If they continue that means there will be more added to the trillion of dollars already in place.

The Republicans wanted unemployment to end, so Obama made a deal he would keep Bush's tax cuts in place as long as we get a 13 month extension on unemployment.

The Dems are not wanting Obama to make this deal, they want the tax cut's to expire and no deal on the unemployment.

So which way is the best way for our Country?

-- Posted by MsMarylin on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 1:17 PM

Hey Lamont......I rarely listen to the news these days, unless it just happens to be on where I am at the time. I can't stomach it anymore on a daily basis.

I haven't heard Rush for a couple of weeks now. What did he say that was bigoted?

As for "this man never doing anything right", I can tell you from a LIFELONG rightwing perspective..................it is nothing personal against Obama. It REALLY ISN'T. NOBODY CARES WHAT COLOR HE IS!!

Jimmy Carter never did anything right either, and we were just as hard on HIM. This isn't a personal thing against Barack Obama.

I'll bet if Hillary had beaten him in the primaries, and the situation was STILL the same as it is right now, there'd be women's lib groups screaming FOUL, and we're all picking on Mrs Clinton "JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!" That's EXACTLY what would be happening right now.

It's the POLICIES, Lamont, the mandates, lawsuits and takeovers, taxes, caterings, ignoring the people, blaming everybody else, AMNESTY, voting fraud, backdoor deals, and public deception.

Obama's not personally to blame for ALL of this, he's got a lot of company with old agendas back there as well. I think he doesn't have the experience to separate bad advice from sound advice, and all of these 30 and 40 year congressional snakes are just sitting back now and letting him take the heat from the press. Spotlight's not on THEM---------------yet.

A lot of them are scared now, from watching what just took place. The public is no longer asleep and is WILLING to THROW people out who don't listen.

This term "arrogance" that keeps popping up. Two years ago, Obama, Reid & Pelosi set up their own little "royal court", basically shut the right side OUT, and MONARCHED every whim and desire into law with or without public support.

NOW............only NOW, are they actually REACHING across the aisle to try to make the public think "bi-partisonship." Yeah..........NOW, after thev'te had their congressional butts handed to them by the voters who have had enough.

And they STILL can't get things done, Lamont. They are STILL in charge. For the next 20 days, they STILL HOLD EVERY BRANCH. The Republicans are STILL basically POWERLESS----------and the Dems still fight amongst themselves back there!....................and STILL point the "blame" on George W. and the Republicans!!

Our political side has been virtually VOTE-LESS for the last 4 congressional years-------and some how, it is STILL the REPUBLICANS who are "hampering" things...............HOW??............HOW??

Our side has NO SAY AT ALL until new year's Day. The DEMOCRATS have run this congress, and CONTROLLED THE MONEY for the past FOUR years.

Today, amongst the party in-fighting, I heard on the news where the BLACK CAUCUS is upset with the White House now too. That isn't our fault either, but I'm sure that somehow it "WILL be" before it's over

There's a part of me Lamont--------and I don't mean this sarcastically either-------but there IS a part of my rightwing side tht really DOES feel sorry for Obama. I have publicly said in the past that I believed the old vipers in the Democrat snakepit have USED Obama's personna and speaking talents as "window dressing" to "snakecharm" the voters that a great change was coming through the eyes of this fresh new face. He was told what to say, what to repeat over and over. With McCain the opponenet, the time was right..............and when he DID win, he and his inexperience would HAVE to listen to the "old crocks" Obama would take the "pat on the back" if it worked, or get thrown under the bus if it didn't.

What they did NOT count on, was this huge Tea party wave that exposed these Senators and Congressmen as well..............this time, it would NOT just be the President who gets hammered.

They lost the House, and came close to losing the Senate. They WILL "finish losing the Senate" and the White House as well, two years, if they DON'T stop pointing fingers and do what the people elected them to do.

Some of them have finally figured that out, and THAT's why the "co-operation" isn't coming to the Obama agenda. Harry Reid can twist arms all he wants, but after what just happened 5 weeks ago...................NOTHING is a "sure thing" anymore.

Personal careers and party loyalty are starting to part company. No "Honor Among Thieves" anymore.

PS...........don't feel "insulted' about your sheet music, Lamont. At least you CAN read music.

I can't read a NOTE! Been playing 40+ years, and can't tell an F-sharp from a B-flat on paper.

Be proud-----take it as a compliment. Most of the people I play with can't read either, except for our pianist!

YOU CAN!!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 1:19 PM

SORRY ZOOK CANT AGREE WITH NO ONE CARES im in the public a lot out playing and they care......thats not my point.MY point is the painting of people with the same brush.THE COMMENT ABOUT MY MUSIC WAS AND ATTEMPT TO IMPLY THAT I COULDNT BE TRAINED I MUST PLAY BY EAR.....THATS THE POINT AND THERFORE ALL OF YOU DO.....I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND NOW.....I AM PROUD... MY FAMILY MADE SACRIFICES LIKE OTHER AMERICAN FAMILYS...I WAS TRAINED PRIVATELY AND IT COST A LOT OF MONEY.....AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT CLASSICAL, GUESS WHO ELSE WAS TRAINED .......CONDI RICE

NOW Rush went on his soap box last week mocking peoples speech,there backgrounds,even implied that the case won by the american indians and the black farmers in the south was akin to paying drug dealers.RUSH does his by implication,i think he thinks minoritys are to dumb to catch it.If i said what RUSH SAYS i would be labeled a RADICAL.He gets away with it without any CONDEMNATION from the RIGHT. WHY???????? LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE RIGHT CONDONES THAT

I WOULD THINK SOMEONE ON THE RIGHT WOULD SAY IT WAS WRONG.......BUT ONLY SILENCE

I dont care what the black caucuse says ...the bill is a good bill they all need to get there heads out and read it.THERE IS SOMETHING THERE FOR EVERYONE.THERE ARE THIEFS IN BOTH PARTYS SO DONT POINT FINGERS....

YOU HAVNT BEEN VOTELESS YOU JUST CARED NOT TO.IM NOT LISTENEING AS INTENTLY AS I USED TO EITHER......IT AFFECTS MY DISPOSITION ( SMILE)

WELL GOT TO GO..... DOING A CONCERT AT BSU AGAIN.... LAST ONE THIS YEAR..........YEAH!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by lamont on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 3:27 PM

Well, I can't condone those kinds of remarks about the indians and black farmers. So at least you know SOMEONE on the "right" who DOES condemn that-------although I'm not a public figure. Nobody on the New York Times staff would care that MIKE BRADBURY thought it was wrong!............."WHO?"

Oh, I'm not pointing any fingers in a "one-way" direction. I was just as glad to see some of OUR thieves get ousted out as well in the primaries by the tea-party candidates, and I publicly said so.

I supported McNeal over Rist, and Hibbert over Corder, so I personally vote for the better man, and have no party loyalties. I have never, and WILL never just walk into a booth and vote for somebody "just because" there might be an (R) after his/her name. That doesn't mean they're the best candidate for the job. I've always believed in being loyal to your Town, your State, your Country...........NOT to your party.

I like to know where these bozo's STAND and how THEY vote on the issues, before I'll vote for one of them.

What I meant by "voteless", was that if every Congressional democrat (or at least MOST of them, voted with Obama on every issue---------there would never be any gridlock, because the Republicans have not had the votes to "hamper" or "deter" anything. They HAVEN'T had the number of votes to stop anything if they WANTED to-------so they might as well be "voteless". If a House vote was, say, 216 to 198 in June, it is STILL theorhetically 216 to 198 in December, if each memmer votes with his party.

If the Dems are together and BENT on passing something, the republicans might as well have just stayed home. The most they're gonna muster is that same number, and it won't be enough.

That's why I said it's wrong for the dems to accuse the repubs of "holding things up and creating gridlock." They can't!

I knew I wasn't alone on the "intentiveness of listening to the news". Here lately, I want to throw something through the television set!

Hey, it's kind of COLD to be playing at BSU, isn't it? Or do you guys get to play inside somewhere?

I don't think I've ever worked with ANY piano/keyboard player who DIDN'T read music, come to think of it. I learned to play by ear, but I've only got 6 strings to deal with (sometimes 12).

Have a good night on the keys!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 6:39 PM

I have a friend we met in japan 1961 he started out playing by ear one of the best keyboard players around,i taught him how to read worse mistake i ever made it took something from his music for a long time.anyhow he went on to play with the big boys we hooked up again after 40 yrs this year what a blast from the past.another friend drummer from dover we hooked up last year after 35+ yrs. and guess what, were all still playing.clarence got out(JAPAN) nick went on to be a ltcol we passed each other in nam he retired. was a capt at dover.ANYHOW THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS THAT YOU PLAY

wE ARE INSIDE AT THE MORRISON CENTER I WONT PLAY OUTSIDE IN THIS WEATHER.I know about strings use to play upright bass.....havnt touched one in years,japan and dover....those were the days...went on to command and tops and blue great memorys,great people.

TV,S cost to much be cool (smile) and i should talk.Both parties have done there share of stonewalling while the people suffer.me personally i am really disgusted with it all.MOVE THE COUNTRY FORWARD.WHO CARES WERE THE BEST IDEAS COME FROM.GET THE BALL MOVING

-- Posted by lamont on Sun, Dec 12, 2010, at 12:05 AM

We're on the "same sheet of music" here, bro!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Dec 12, 2010, at 8:55 AM

Lamont: I'm sorry but I got confused. I wasn't sure if you were commenting on my comment and/or blog or Bazooka. I will tell you that I don't listen to Rush. I'm sure that he has good and stupid things to say, just like most radio talkers. He has a right to his opinion but I have heard too many people commenting on his bigoted comments so I don't doubt it. I'm not sure what else you wrote pertains to me. Sorry, I'm having a blonde-moment! However, on the musical note, I am really interested to hear your talent. Do you have a website that I can hear you play?

-- Posted by kimkovac on Sun, Dec 12, 2010, at 8:58 AM

THE ZOOKS OF THE WORLD THE LAMONTS OF THE WORLD COUNT.Guess what ? i write the NY TIMES the STATESMAN etc,there is no need for the type of dicourse that is taking place to be happening.

PEOPLE TALK OF WELFARE,did you know that welfare trapes people and there is a solution,but it is easier to blame the victim than solve the problem.

The filibuster has been used and abused i will make this point,,,,when the right passes a bill and the president says GREAT and then the RIGHT FILLIBUSTERS ITS OWN BILL there is something wrong with that picture. I WOULD CALL THAT SABOTAGE,and the Ammerican people pay the price,we are getting ready to see the same from the left.Again thats not what i pay them for.

KIM i really have a problem with some one who talks in a way that promotes violence and sedition.

Rush knows exactly what he is doing.THOSE ATTACKS THAT STATE...REPATRIATIONS,WELFARE GIVEAWAY TO HIS BUDDIES,ETC ARE VIEWED AS ATTACKS AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOUR.....WHY? because there is a tendancy to think only people of colour are on these programs......WRONG....70% of these programs are WHITE recipients.....If you listen to RUSH AND THE LIKE, YOU DONT GET THAT.

YOU use words like hate BUSH ETC PUBLIC APOLOGY ETC sorry i have been all around the world and we are not perfect, far from it.....we have done some things that viewed by the people it happened to and others, that have been less than honorable.A HANDSHAKE AND AN, APOLOGY GOES A LONG WAY,WE DONT LIVE ON THIS PLANET ALONE,AND WE DONT RULE THE WORLD......you speak of things being shoved down your throat,and you dont like it.HOW about viewing that on a world scale.

I HAVE A WEB SITE ,,,,,,BUT THIS IS NOT A FARCE ......... I DONT EXPECT ANYTHING BUT BAD THINGS TO BE SAID BY YOU SO I HAD TO GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO WETHER I WANTED TO DIVULGE THAT.......THE MUSIC THERE will stand on its own and IS COMMERCIAL SO I SEE NO HARM...........myspace.com/theb3side.

well zook got to run things to do.......havnt turned on the tv today.........yeah///////////

-- Posted by lamont on Mon, Dec 13, 2010, at 1:09 PM


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