Do you need to touch the wounds?

Posted Saturday, August 8, 2009, at 11:48 AM

Can history repeat itself again? Only when good men and women do nothing!

There was man named Thomas, who lived in a world of bitter hatred towards his people. His government was oppressive and his people had suffered greatly. They were taxed beyond their means and the government recruited his own people to spy on them and collect the taxes from them. Their own people were used by the government to keep tabs on each other and they rewarded those who reported "fishy" acts of treason. One day, he heard of a great teacher who spoke of love and kindness. He reached out to the lowly people and healed with the strength of God. Thomas had to hear him speak. That day his life changed forever. He followed the teacher and believed in him. He was everything that was good and spoke of defeating evil. The great teacher spoke of what would occur in the future and Thomas shook his head, thinking that there was no way that such evil would ever come from his own people. Others told him that things would get worse. They said that the government would arrest the innocent and even put them to death. He wouldn't believe that the people could do such horrible things. But one day, the soldiers appeared and the teacher was taken. When the going got tough; Thomas hid. He denied that the riot occurred. He denied that people would imprision someone for their beliefs. He turned away when others said that the government would kill the Teacher when he had committed no crime. And then it happened. The Great Teacher was killed. Thomas' world was lost. His faith was shattered. How could the unthinkable happen? Why didn't he pay attention to the signs, to the evidence? Fear set in and he continued to hide from the truth of how evil the world really was. He was living a life of denial and bondage to his ignorance. But a few days later, the unbelievable happened. His friends proclaimed a miracle, the fulfillment of a prophecy. A prophecy that had been the root of his faith from the time of birth. The prophecy that proclaimed that the Messiah would be killed and 3 days later, he will rise again to walk amoung us. There was such joy but this man felt only disbelief. There was no way to make him believe. So they took him to the proof. And even then, as he gazed into the face of his risen Master, he doubted. He asked for more proof. He had to touch the wounds. Only then did he fall to his knees and believe.

How close to the proof do we need to be? How many will suffer having their freedom destroyed before the majority steps up and stops it?

How about the doubting of the world in the 1930's? Genocide Victims: "The world outside Nazi Europe received numerous press reports in the 1930s about the persecution of Jews. By 1942 the governments of the United States and Great Britain had confirmed reports about the Final Solution - Germany's intent to kill all the Jews of Europe. However, influenced by antisemitism and fear of a massive influx of refugees, neither country modified their refugee politics. No specific attempts to stop or slow the genocide were made until mounting pressure eventually forced the United States to undertake limited rescue efforts in 1944." www.deathcamps.info Lest We Forget!

How close to the proof do we need to be to get our heads out of our backsides and believe that this country is headed to the greatest downfall since Thomas witnessed the turning of his own people against an innocent man? There is evidence everyday on the news. People are not staging these tea parties nor these confrontations at town hall meetings. These are real people who are waking up to the truth of the real Obama. They are no longer in denial. Hello, people! Are you going to just keep doubting? Denying the evidence right in front of you? Denying the early signs that people in our history repeatly ignored until it was too late? Or do you need to touch the wounds?

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Yeah............factcheck.org..............brought to us by Annenberg Public Policy Center, a LIBERAL organization.

Might as well just turn on CNN or NBC.

Want facts? Open your eyes. The government OWNS banks, auto industries, and is trrying to own healthcare.

They are COUNTING the illegals as part of the census.

They are trying to SQUELCH free speech

They have COMMUNISTS advising the president

They are HAMPERING the security of this country by trying to hang the good guys from extracting vital info from the bad guys

The national debt is now NINE trillion and counting

Wanna SEE your "facts.org" Mr Thompson...wanna SEE the facts?

Look out your window. Look across this country. Look at a march that hasn't been seen since Martin Luther King.............

And these aren't pot-smoking dopers and radicals out there. These are the elderly, the vets, housewives, schoolkids. This is the heart and soul of this country that's finally had enough.

Look out your window, Mr. Thompson, and SEE your "facts."

-- Posted by bazookaman on Thu, Sep 3, 2009, at 8:43 AM

www.factcheck.org

-- Posted by DaveThompson on Wed, Sep 2, 2009, at 12:43 PM

The government needs to be DOWNSIZED, not EXPANDED, with more phony-baloney jobs created just for the faithful supporters and cohorts.

Obama, during his campaign, was addressing a rally in Colorado Springs where he talked of a "civilian force as well manned and funded as our military."

Isn't it ironic how Pelosi and friends call US "brownshirts?"

-- Posted by bazookaman on Tue, Sep 1, 2009, at 10:02 PM

Twil, I for one don't advocate the dismantling of the government. I just propose to put it back into pandoras box. What we DON'T need is a civilian defense force to "protect" us from the unseen enemy.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Mon, Aug 31, 2009, at 9:59 PM

The only point that I am trying to put across is that we are not self-sufficient, isolated hunter-gatherers. You and some others seem to advocate that we dismantle government at all levels and let society (i.e. the public sector) provide what it will. Some things that society deems important cannot be provided by the public sector. That point has been proven since the time of Rome. Now that is not to say that we need excessive govt. intervention. Markets dont always provide optimal solutions and neither does govt. intervention. The trick is finding the balance.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Aug 31, 2009, at 9:32 PM

National defense as in protecting our country Twil? We have a standing army sent into foreign countries to defend our national sovreignty. We have National Guard to defend our country from within. Not to mention all the federal, state and local law enforcement. Why on earth would we need a "civilian" defense force to protect this country. Whom are they protecting us from? Did you see a raghead running down your street yelling, "Allah is great, kill the infidels"? Are there North Korean or Iranian soldiers marching on city hall to take it over? NO!! Obama wants this force of people to protect HIM. To attack YOU. People who are loyal to him. He KNOWS the military wouldn't attack Americans on American soil. He is trying to install the infrastructure so he can propogate his socialist ideals. He knows, from the response to his healthcare plan, that he can't further his plan unless he has forces in place to FORCE people to think like him. Pretty easy to see his point of view if someone is standing on front of your house with a gun.

Remember Twil, we are CITIZENS and the government works for US. We are NOT subjects to be ruled over.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Mon, Aug 31, 2009, at 11:57 AM

So as expected you dodge the issue of national defense being a public good. Would you favor the private approach? I know that 99% of most civilized people favor the nationalized approach? Mercenaries never helped anyone but their lords and themselves.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Mon, Aug 31, 2009, at 11:46 AM

And our national defense was intended to protect OUR shores, not everyone else's. Nowhere in our Constitution (OMG there's that dirty rightwing word again!), NOWHERE does it call for us to be the world's policeman.

It doesn't matter how many different opinions we all have on what level of defense we need. My opinion here hasn't mattered in over 20 years, and yours doesn't matter at all.

The only opinions that DO mattter on this subject are that of our military.................the guys who are OUT THERE and see our enemies close up and personal. The guys who have to FIGHT these terrorists and rogue governments.

I'd rather see a few more fighters, than a few more corporate jets.

How much more body armor could we provide for our troops if we weren't spending it on John Murta's airport or the "tunnels for turtles" project?

As far as I'm concerned, if you've never played the game, you don't have any say on making the rules and most of these lawmakers have never seen a combat zone except on the History Channel.

Obama can stick his communist agaenda and his "social programs" where the sun doesn't shine.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 5:00 PM

The point is that national defense is a public good. If you asked people what they are willing to pay for it, their voluntary contributions would fall well short of what is needed. This occurs because every one has a different opinion on the level of external threat and how much it costs to prevent it. This is not because non-military types are idiots. It is called subjectivity and uncertainty. National defense being provided by the private sector would signal a return to feudal times. Now argue all that you want but that would benefit only the wealthy and lucky. Spending on defense has gone up and down since the beginning, so how is this any different? This debate has gone on since Roman times in one form or another.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:07 PM

I served during a time when our military was still directed under the stars and stripes.

Not the emerging hammer and sickle that you lefties pretend not to see.

That's the difference.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:30 PM

Providing national defense from the private sector has never worked. I challenge to prove that wrong. Again, no impassioned and inflammatory rhetoric. Show me something logical and reasoned that shows that the welfare of the whole would be protected as well by mercenaries as by the current nationalized approach. Oh but were not you employed by this at one time and you stick by it and curse me for not being patriotic. Seems a bit hypocritical.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 12:43 PM

People who ebdorse "governemnt intervention" more often than not, find themselves stood up against the wall before it's over.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Aug 26, 2009, at 9:26 PM

I believe in minimal govt. intervention but some services simply cant be provided by the private sector adequately. National defense is the big one. The approach that you favor would be a return to that of 16th century Europe. Oh and that worked so well. The standard of living was so good. Everyone had 4 species of lice on their head and a life expectancy of 32. Hmmm... tough decision.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Wed, Aug 26, 2009, at 2:06 PM

typo.........should read "FOREVER"

(I probably should wear my reading glasses this early in the morning before I start typing things!)

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Aug 14, 2009, at 9:11 AM

Well, I will FORECER believe we'd be a lot better off with "Big Brother " OUT of our lives, and I am definitely not alone in this belief!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Fri, Aug 14, 2009, at 9:01 AM

"People just don't realize we no longer live in hunter/gatherer times in which people were truly somewhat self-sufficient"

It is amazing that people think that they live independent of all govt. They apparently think that this is some John Wayne film where they are given free reign. There are reasons that people evolved from primitive hunter/gatherers to what we are now. Hint, these changes did not occur just in spite of those who cling to the past.

-- Posted by twilcox1978 on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 7:07 PM

Rollman, you need to figure out for yourself, the difference between "legitimate" taxes that are USED for their intended purposes, and the mass robbery that's going on now.

As far as invasion? As long as we keep our gun rights, there won't BE one. Oh, you might see anoyther "911" and I fully expect it, but the ragheads aren't going to take it to the streets with a deer rifle hanging on almosr every wall.

China?.............Prior to Pearl Harbor, even Yamamoto HIMSELF warned the Imperial staff against invasion of America which had in HIS OWN WORDS "a rifle behind every blade of grass."

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 7:44 PM

Hey rollman, I have to disagree. Though Red Dawn was a movie, that is exactly what it would take IF we were invaded by a large standing army. We won't be though. We will be attacked just as we were on 911. The only way we would be attacked by a large army is if the messiah could get our OWN troops to attack their family and friends. Not likely to happen. I see where bazooka was going with this. If society breaks down, he is ready to defend his family and friends as well as provide sustinence to keep them fed until things change. And remember one thing Roll, our FEDERAL troops can NOT be used on our own soil without suspending several laws. The National Guard, which is a STATE militia as well as those with arms to take up in the defense of the state are the ones who will be defending you.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:46 AM

Bazooka--

Your last comment is so typical of what's wrong with the logic of the gun rights movement. If some country invades--such as China--you and every other gun-toting fanatic won't be able to do anything about it. The more I hear/read comments like yours, the more convinced I am that Heston and the whole NRA membership actually believe 'Red Dawn' could be reality. We would need a strong, united, Federal defense to push back against an invading power.

You don't look to the govt. for security, huh? I would venture a guess that you also fancy yourself completely independent of the 'Feds'. What a joke! Everytime you travel to work, the grocery store, the woods to hunt, anywhere, you are driving--quite literally--on the tax dollars we legitimately pay to the government. People just don't realize we no longer live in hunter/gatherer times in which people were truly somewhat self-sufficient. Like or not, you are one of 300 million+ spokes in the wheel that make this country work, and your tax dollars are a big part of that. So, if you want to complain that the big, bad government is taking too much from you, stop enjoying all the benefits. You can't have both; it just doesn't work that way.

-- Posted by rollman on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 9:56 PM

Personally, I don't look to the government for security....with the borders wide open, getting ready to grant amnesty to EVERYONE..........apologizing around the world.

As I see it, there are 2 kinds of security. Physical and Fiscal.

Physical: Be it illegals, feds or hoods, if someone invades OUR home, it won't be Brinks/Broadview calling for help. Our house is insured by Smith & Wesson

Fiscal: If it all collapses..........as long as I have a rifle, I'll put meat on the table.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 3:49 PM

SOrry Boazooka, I was speaking about an ideal world where congres took no more than they needed to provide us with security. I forgot we were supporting their lifestyle.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 8:07 AM

Thought about it...would love to quit sending them taxes AND Social Security AND Medicare. Could think of ways to "stimulate" the economy with that money

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 10:46 PM

No, we pay taxes so the government can have their weekends in the Bahamas, corporate jets, mansions, yachts, (tunnels for turtles), and so they can continue to give away billions to foreign countries, and make all kinds of under-the-table deals without the knowledge or approval of their rightful BOSS...................John Q. Taxpayer.

Which brings me to something Bouncer..........what's your take on this?

Supposedly, there is to be "no taxation without representation."

If these clowns in congress aren't doing what we send to to do, they aren't representing us, are they? If they vote for things we would NEVER support, they aren't representng us.

Why should we continue to pay taxes if we are NOT being represented?

I wonder if anyone else has thought about that?

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 6:43 PM

WOW..thinking of the story of Doubting Thomas it took me a couple of days to form a resonse. You're right. some people are going to have to physically be "touched" by these events before they understand what's at risk. Their houses will need to be foreclosed on, their jobs lost. They will have to be told by the government that their car needs to be "recycled" because it's too old and burns too much gas. (try telling the to Bazooka's wife) They will have to be face down in the gutter with their family before they truly understand what's happening. Then they will turn to the always helpful government. That is where they will learn the truth. There's no money, there's no salvation, only more pain. The current administration will tell you there is nothing left because they have spent it all on hookers and cheap beer...oops..I meant healthcare and carbon credits. There may be enough to pay you a little bit to help feed your family but not enough to prosper. The goverment will have done with the economy and social programs that it knew it couldn't do with guns and violence. It will have turned you into slaves of the state. It will own and control every aspect of your life. It will give you a pittance because they know you won't turn on them because you NEED them to support you and your family.

The time has come people, to fight back, to take control back at the state level. To let our congressmen know THEY work for US. If they choose to follow along in typical Washington fashion they will be OUT. Politics is not a career but a calling. TO serve your fellowman and represent his voice as well as yours in the government. There should be no retirement from congress only a term or two. No lifelong healthcare. Not when a typical retiree has to pay for COBRA if he wants to continue being healthy. It's time to vote them out. To get rid of the Good Ol' Boy (and Girl)regime and get people in that want to serve the people instead of being served. We own the right to be free, god and our forefathers both agree on that. We LOAN out that freedom to be safe. We sacrifice certain liberties in order to be free from tyrany, fear and hate. We pay taxes for military, police, fire and ambulance. We vote on and allow laws so that we might be able to sleep peacefully at night.

No where in Gods law or our own constitution does it say that we live at the will of the government. The government serves at our will.

-- Posted by mhbouncer on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 4:47 PM

Great blog Kim! Powerful stuff. Yes, how long before we step up? I wonder that myself.

-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 10:23 AM

.........and we'll see how funny it is THEN.........

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 9:25 PM

Kim, excellent post as always, but the only wounds these "sheeples" are gonna touch are their OWN, as they're being dragged away if they don't bow to their new "masters."

It's in the opening stages right now, and directly in front of them, and they STILL don't see it. I'm not taking the time to be concerned for them anymore. They think they know everything and so be it. They'll get educated when it hits the streets.

You can lead the horse to water, but if he'd rather drink the kool-aid...............

I'm looking out for my family and will be there for my friends.

The kool-aid drinkers can fend for themselves as they "reason logic" with their "liberators."

-- Posted by bazookaman on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 9:24 PM

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