Flag me! Go ahead!Posted Thursday, August 6, 2009, at 10:52 PM
Can't I have my one phone call?
One article said: "In a White House blog post that has generated nationwide controversy, Obama's staff are asking for people to turn in anyone who says anything "fishy" about the pro-abortion health plan. "Facts Are Stubborn Things," the Obama administration said, "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end-of-life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain e-mails or through casual conversation." "Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an e-mail or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov,\" the Obama web site says." Yes, I am talking about the White House Administration, not some dictatorship or 3rd world country. Right here in the US, our President and his minions are asking the people to snitch on each other. Sound like anything you have read from world history? This is very similar to that time we were all apalled at the report from the Department of Homeland Security saying "opponents of abortion" or "returning veterans" or "people who home-schooled" or people who were religious are likely to engage in extremism or terrorism. I'm afraid that I am part of these people that the website would want to flag. I have written about my disapproval of healthcare reform. I've warned people that the government would be deciding who lives or dies so I am officially wide-open for the snitches of the world to turn me in to be flagged as a "rightwing extremism in the United States."I not only disapprove of it. I have written so many reasons against it. I called it another star chamber which almost certainly would sound "fishy" to liberals everywhere. Homeland Security makes it quite simple to understand who should be suspect and possibly considered a threat to our country. The report states, "It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," Oh my! I'm really in trouble along with so many other people in this town. I am not only opposed to the healthcare reform scam, but I guess I am a RWE-pro-lifer, a RWE-anti-illegal immigration fanatic, a RWE-anti-nationalized bank, and there are many more RWE-one issue subjects that will land me on Obama's list! I remember taking a course on Communisim and there was a detailed list of exactly what situations occur to a country that will progressively lead to a communist government. Well, I guess everyone who kept saying that these steps would never happen here are now feasting on roasted black crow. Bon Apetite! If you don't see any blogs for a week or so, it could be one of two reasons. The neighbors finally decided to be good comrades and bombarded flag@whitehouse.gov and I'm sitting gagged and naked in a padded cell or I'm on vacation. Well, the latter is the plan but what a perfect time to take me without raising the concerns of friends who think I'm enjoying the quiet of Hells Canyon in a rustic cabin, finishing that darn novel I keep saying I'm almost done with. Well, I am! It's a few chapters away, I swear! Goodbye, my friends. Oh....Gotta go, there's someone knocking at the door. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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I plan on turning myself in tomorrow. I'm gonna write my own letter to the white house and tell them how I feel about Obamanomics and the Obama healthcare plan. Who knows how long it will take for them to come get me but I wish you all well...lol.
Listening to Beck today I heard an interesting thought. Everything the white house recieves has to be logged in and kept until armaggedon, thank Nixon for that. It is illegal for the white house to destroy any sort of electronic communication just in case a president needs to be impeached at a later date. But on the other hand it is against the constitution to abridge free speech and keeping said communications for the purpose of shutting someone up is against the law. Be interesting to see how the new supreme court justice votes on this tidbit.
One gentleman on Hannity said he was going to email the white house a document that was puproted to be the truth about the healthcare plan but is in fact a bunch of lies. He said he was going to attach the House version of the healthcare plan to the email and send it back to the white house. Good idea....wpnder how long the server will last if we ALL did that?
You two are just a couple of right wing radicals, who DARE to CARE for this country! Shame on you BOTH! Ha-ha.
Actually, this doesn't bother me a bit. "Big Brother" knows where to find me and when he does, he'll wish he hadn't.
LOL...watching the news this morning. Watching as people are starting to stand up for themselves and watching as the liberals start to get a bit flustered now that the protests are being leveled at THEM. Watching them retaliate against their very own constiuents...the ones who voted for them. Now we are bing called radicals. We are being told this is all "manufactured", "astroturf". What crap that is. Where was the same outrage against the protests when it was in their favor? Code Pink, NOW, the numerous war protest groups, Cindy Sheehan? No No, these were all concerned citizens with something legitimate to protest. They weren't LEFT WING EXTREMIST protestors.
From phone calls to your legislator, to the Tea Parties, voicing your opinion in a town hall meeting, all of this is now apparently WRONG. Don't have a voice. Don't raise opposition to the status quo. Don't question the government for they are all knowing and here to help.
Didn't you know that? All that "Tea Party" footage is just trick photography, perpetrated by FOX news. If you want the REAL story, you have to listen to CNN and trust the "messiah" in the White House.
We NEED the friggin' government to wipe our noses for us, since we are obviouly incapable of controlling our own lives. All those koolaid drinkers on the left have all the answers, so we just need to kick back, smoke a couple of joints, knock down a 12-pack and follow along.
We don't HAVE an opinion, Bouncer. The 1st Amendment was only intended for Democrats...........says so somewhere in the Constitution......which to THEM, is just something you take every morning after breakfast.
Left wing protestors are justified. They're just out there showing concern for their fellow man, including the ragheads, communists, perverts, gay rights, legalizing drugs, etc...........you know, all the things America STANDS for, in this giant "melting pot."
But you rotten little Right-wingers........dare to have the audacity to protest against a kindly government, that is only looking out for your best interests. You dare to demand your rights......ALL of them!
You dare to protest the high taxes from a caring congress, and you dare to protest against all these illegals who couldn't make it without our continued support. Oh SHAME on you!
But you guys are NOT fooling the LEFT, by golly! WE KNOW! We KNOW that the only reason for these protests and town hall meeting outbursts is because Obama is black..............yeah, THAT's the reason!
It's got nothing to do with trillions of dollars in waste and pork, un-read stimulous contracts, bailouts, cap & trade, healthcare, CZARS, known communists and tax cheats, Nancy Pelosi, out of control spending......
NONE OF THAT!!!!
.........It's because Obama is black.......c'mon now....fess up, you right wing extremists out there!
And Bouncer my good friend.............the WEIRD thing about all of that last tirade........
This is ACTUALLY what they think!
It's time, Bro..............it HAS to be time.
Okay. We had better keep a person on the outside so that someone can sneak us the file (to saw our way out). I am sure we will all end up in Cuba in all of those empty, former terrorist camps...while "they" run free. America! Home of the free and land of the brave.
This is really distressing. I also like the part where the government has to have our bank account numbers to make sure we pay our medical bills. That takes a lot of arrogance on their part. Wonder if we can have their account numbers and try to get some of our wasted tax dollars back. Who works for who?
All part of that "Change we can believe in."
"Papers please.........kvickly-kvickly.....schnell-schnell!"
Hey, anybody watch the REAL news last night, and see the footage of Obama's Union thugs beating up that BLACK guy who was passing out "Don't Tread On Me" pins and flags at the town hall meeting?
So they wanna play "rough" eh? I hope they try that at some rally I'm at.
See Bouncer, I TOLD ya that the right of free speech only applies to the "Annointed One" and his followers, and he basically came on camera and told the American people to shut up..........anybody catch THAT one?
Sorry I missed it. Wonder if they are a bunch of racists for doing that?
Good question, Skeeter. What does it mean when Obama's boys are beating up BLACK guys?
Obviously you knuckle heads didn't watch the whole video about the black conservative (not getting a beating by the white guy). To begin with the B. Conservative had started an argument with a Black Minister and was beginning to throttle the minister and the white guy pulled the B. Conservative off the minister. The white fella kept repeating "he was attacking a minister and I pulled him(the B. Conservative) off.(of the Minister)" But hey, if you guys wants to start violence over edited video that's your prerogative. But just realize that once again the conservatives will be to blame for the blood-shed.
And the fact that the tea-party protesters couldn't get into the "town hall meeting" was do to the fact that the building had already filled too capacity(there are fire codes to follow) while the "tea protestor" were protesting, instead of being smart and getting in line so they could attend the meeting.
You people want to start a revolt so badly that you'll believe anything to get it going. It's called spin/sensationalism. It is a tactic used by cowards to get common people riled up and fanatical enough to do the work that the cowards with ties and money are too afraid to do. And the fact that Glen Beck and those other cretins were mentioned in the above comments just proves my point. You people will end up jailed while the talking heads remain free because they weren't there man. And they are just entertainers, will be their defense and key to their freedom. But you and the rest of the malcontent conservative factions will rot in jail.
Wake Up. Things are not as bad as the web makes them out to be.
Go take a walk, talk to strangers on the street, the park, at the shopping centers. Things are pretty frigging normal and sane outside. It's inside(and on this contraption) that has lost all sense of reality.
I'm going to the 3 islands crossing.
Good luck with the revolt, 4 weeks from now is what I hear. tools,...
The only difference between this and other administrations is that they chose to advertise it to the public. One can be assured that all leaders (president or not) have taken similar measures.
Not quite..............."OTHER" administrations never plunged us 5 Trillion into debt in a 6 month period.
Other administrations never signed off on these tremendous spending packages without even reading them.
Other administrations didn't take over banks
Other administrations didn't takeover car companies
Other administrations didn't push the country toward socialism
Other administrations didn't appoint Czars, including know communists
Other administrations didn't bow and apologize to other countries
Other administrations ever threatened the 1st Amendment as this one has
No administration in U.S. history is as corrupt, lying and full of thieves as this one is.
And nowhere in time, have a flock of voters been so completely fooled.
How about sending our troops to war and then making them pay for their medical insurance and war related injuries? How about the dims wanting our bank account numbers? Talk about arrogance. I think our military health program will be done away with during this administration.
Next time we have a war, we'll have our troops SIT IT OUT and tell the commies in D.C. to suit-up and go fight it.
my comments were about how other administrations have played this game that Kim detailed quite well. I had been confident that you could stay on topic but I was wrong again. I deliberately focused my comments on this and thought that I would be polite and not get off topic but oh well. This administration is not perfect and neither has any other in history. Nor will any to exist in the future hit every out of the park.
Hey censored...SHADDUP....It's great to see you liberal idots defending the beatings of protestors, the denouncement by the government of protesting , the tattle tails ratting out subversives to the "Man", when for DECADES you and your ilk have done EXACTLY the same thing over and over. Gay rights, womens rights, civil liberties, bad wars, abortions, you name it you idiots have had a sign all painted up and marching up and down the street. Now that the shoe is on the other foot you are out telling people to shut up, to take what the government is giving you and like it...NOOO, BELIEVE IT!!!
Censored, go dry up. For far to long conservatives, and I DON'T mean Republicans, have sat back and tried to co-exist with meatheads like you. Now we are tired of being tread on and are standing up for what we feel is right. Do you think EVERYONE of the people protesting at these town meetings are republican?...really?...in states where democrats have won for years? Nope..if you think that then you have proven everything said about you here. All these protesters are conservatives that have finally found a voice. These people are AMERICANS..democrat and republican alike who are fed up. Take a hint censored. You are slowly sinking into the minority in this country. Your Socialist ideals are losing traction and times are changing.
You've got it all wrong, Bouncer..........it's only justified when THEY protest! You obviously don't understand the importance of things:
We have no right to demand Constitutional adherence from the communists in Washington.
We have no right to demand answers from Congressmen we elect to represent us.
We have no right to "question authority" (and don't we all remember those SAME bumper stickers on the back of hippie vans?)
We have no right to protest the direction toward being the socialist nation Obama aspires to.
We have no right to criticize THEIR president or his policies.
However.......Same sex marriage? Legalizing drugs? Amnesty for illegals? Affirmative Action? Down with Bush?..................no problem, amigo, grab your sign and paint your face. "It's THEIR RIGHT to protest".......................(as long as it's for a LIBERAL cause, and the media is there for support).
You're right on the money as always, Bouncer. Contrary to their drivel, it is OUR side that has shown the tolerance for all of these public spectacles over the years, but now that DECENT people have had enough and are taking to the streets to try to SAVE this country, the pinkos out there can't handle it.
They are confused and un-prepared to deal with what WE have had to put up with. As you said, the shoe IS on the other foot, and these idiots don't even realize that it's THEIR pockets that are being picked as well and this should be THEIR fight too!
This isn't just a "Republican thing" when you get laid off because Obama is taxing your employer out of existence.
This isn't just a "Republican thing" when they start crawling into EVERYBODY's bank accounts.
It's not just the "Republican" moms and dads, grandmas and grandpas who are going to be rationed from healthcare because the government doesn't deem them "worth it" anymore.
They don't just wiretap Republicans.
Communism (Yes, I'm by-passing Socialism and calling it what it is).......communism is indiscriminate. It affects ALL of us, not just one party or the other.
MR LIBERAL..........can you hear me out there? CAN you, Mr Liberal?............
YOU are helping pay for everything they waste money on in D.C.
YOUR job is no safer than the next guy's.
YOUR taxes go up at the same time your conservative neighbor's does.
"TAXING THE RICH" puts you out the door with your Rdepublican co-worker, because the boss czan't afford to keep YOU on either!
YOUR house gets forclosed on just like rneighbor's.
YOUR ailing elderly parents get pushed aside RIGHT ALONG WITH OURS.
YOU have no more rights than WE do.
You libs aren't special, you aren't somehow EXEMPT.........If you guys actually WERE as smart as you all claim to be, YOU'D BE OUT THERE MARCHING WITH US, instead of helping Washington cut your own throats.
Bouncer:
Defending the beatings of protesters? For one thing I do not tolerate violence unless it's in self defense. Two, it was one protester who instigated the fight with a minister and it was the white fella that tried to stop the fight. Beatings of protesters is when armies of cops come in riot gear and start cracking skulls even when there is no threat of violence from the protesters. What your talking about is a one on one brawl that a bystander tried to stop and got arrested for. So when the cops start tear gassing and busting the heads of the tea baggers then you can complain about protest beatings. Otherwise it's nothing but altercations between two individuals with others trying to stop the violence. You wouldn't know what large scale violence against peaceful protesters really is, because you have sat on your couch your whole life watching the action from the safety of your home. And since you've started the name calling (meat-head) you've sat at home like a coward.
And again you people are not subversives, dissenter, radicals,...etc. Maybe liars, sensationalist, and over-reactionary tools, but not radicals. Radicals is a term used for people with greater wisdom and understanding of humanity and the lopsided nature of society. You "conservatives" are just simply violent beasts. Like rabid badgers on speed, everything you see and hear is hazy and seems to stink so you attack without really understanding. Just following the loud mouth rabies cells advice "that everything is out to destroy you", when in fact it's the rabies(Beck and such) that will destroy you.
And again, I am not a liberal, or a socialist, but if it makes you feel better to label me as such then by all means. It's misinformation, but what the hell. I like meat head as well. How about insane christian bed wetter, that's fun. Or maybe caustic personality monkey, jerkinstine, low-brow grass eating swine, flippant sociopathic mail thief. Man-whore has a nice ring too it but not very original. This one works very well, retired air force pooch,...arff arff!
Had a lovely day at the horse drowning event, hope you kids got out of the house and away from the computer, for a couple of hours at least.
......and it omes in cherry, blackberry, tropica; punch, grape................
............you just add water and stir...........
Umm, censored...you IDIOT..I was WORKING..you know..JOB..to support your president and all the spending he's done for the past 6 months. Nice of you to talk so badly about an event that no one told you to go to. That's called liberty and it's protected..well for now...by the constitution as well as the pursuit of happiness. I sit at this computer for MAYBE an hour a day when I get home from WORK. Along with WORK I'm a father and enjoy doing things OUTSIDE with my kids. I only come here because I enjoy seeing people being able to voice their opinion, also protected by the constitution. I enjoy reading Kim's blogs and responding to them, mostly in a positive manner. Then YOU come along, full of hate. If I turned around and started agreeing with you, you would change sides just to argue. Although I think you lie when you say you aren't a liberal, because you are, I do know what you ARE. You sir are a hypocrite. Now you come on here and make excuses for why it was ok for your side to protest and launch into a hate filled RANT, name calling people who are exercising their rights as AMERICANS. You are against conservative Americans voicing their opinions in the forums offered, unless it has a social agenda?
Censored, why don't YOU show up to some of these meetings and start shouting down the protesters as your side is wont to do. Start calling people in these meetings some of the names you said on here. Don't call me coward then startt he name calling from the safety of your little room. Come on down and try it in person. You're liable to get knocked into the dirt. But it's ok...some cop will come along and arrest me for doing it..and I go away with a smile on my face. No worries, greater men than me have been jailed for a cause.
Bazooka, on a lighter note, thanks for stoping in and chatting once in awhile...you are always welcome.
If I believed that Censored ISN'T a liberal, I'd also have to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy! If he really ISN'T, though, he needs to join the Screen Actor's Guild because he gives a SUPERB performance as one. Sure had ME fooled!
I wouldn't worry about anybody calling the cops. The demonstrations that are going on TODAY are filled with REAL Americans. People are so hot right now, any "pink freak" running his commie mouth at a Pri-American protest is likely NOT going to get up at ALL, to file his ACLU bleeding heart complaint.
And when it finally hits the fan..........well, some things are better off NOT being discussed over "Al Gore's Internet."
AND...........on the "lighter side"......Keeping one of my hobbies going requires my stopping in there every now and then, but I especially enjoy it now, because it's one of those times in the day that I can engage in intelligent conversation.
I steer away from this usual but certain individuals lack of class, logic, and rational thought is laughable. If they want to be taken serious, coming off as an illogical, irrational, grasping-at-straws, cant-back-it-up-with-facts type does not help your cause.
The only "cause" we ALL should have right now, is to try to keep our country a free nation, and backing this government isn't going to do it.
You make some good points from time to time, Twil, but the White House telling us all how to spend our money, while THEY continue to blow it by the millions and HUNDREDS of millions.............is like your parents telling you not to smoke while they inhale them by the carton.
Much like "Censored", no rational person is ever going to take Obama seriously. He has given no one any reason to.
Hell........leaders of other COUNTRIES don't take Obama seriously, and that's going to play out very ugly before his term is over (which had BETTER be ONE term, if that!).
Back to the topic, this game of office politics described above is old hat. It is politics that we are talking about. Every administration known to mankind has had petty squabbling. Scheming and being canniving are just part of the job description.
Seems to me, like yet ONE MORE good reason to RE-ELECT NO ONE!
Yeah, bouncer I was giving you some idea's for names to call me. Just for originality, instead of the old standbys like idiot, dumb@%%, socialist,...just trying to spice up your name calling. Because I care. And there was no hate in my comment, see your over reacting again. Like the confused always do. And when did I say it was okay for my side to protest and not yours? And further, shouting people down in town hall meetings is not protest or debate, it is called being a bully. But I guess that is how your T.V. personalities taught your side to handle things you can't comprehend. "Shouting people down and violence, is not protest it's fascism."
And I'm sorry you didn't have the weekend off. Most decent employers allow for freedom on the Sat and Sunday. May be you should Unionize and fight for free-time on the weekends. My kid sure likes it when I'm around for those days.
Wow and you've stooped to the level of threatening me physically. Sounds like you might already be a Union Thug or just an average violent criminal? My votes on the Violent Criminal end.
(it's kind of funny that the leaders of the left and the right use the exact same propaganda to get people turning on each other. like doppelgangers in different clothes)
Meaning that what the right is spreading about the left, is the same as what the left is saying about the right. such as, number 1) says, "Your a turd!", then number 2) says, "No! Your a Turd!"... (except for Number(1) seems to scream more then (2). do you follow? that's why I don't claim either side. wacky,.....
It's like elementary school name calling with highschool gossip.
Yeah, all DECENT employers should give EVERYONE the weekend off. That way, if you need something at the hardware store, the grocery store or a few galllons of gas to take your family someplace, you can just wait until Monday, eh?
You're way off base, Censored.......if Bouncer was a violent criminal, he'd have a lot more rights than he has NOW. Just ask anyone in the ACLU.
And Censored, do you recall all the protests over war, legalization of pot, same sex marriage, affirmative action, Rodney King, the death penalty, etc?
All of THOSE got fairly vocal at times...........but why wasn't the government going on tv and branding THEM as "Nazi's, political terrorists, UN-American?"
Example.........If YOU went out and protested against the war and discrimination against gays, the media would back you to the hilt as expressing your 1st Amendment rights ie: freedom of speech
I go out and protest against the healthcare bill and the high taxes, but I am now a "Nazi, rightwing wacko extremist."
YOUR cause and MY cause are BOTH against government rules and regulations, are they not?
But as far as the White House, Pelosi and her press are concerned, "Censored" is expressing his freedom of speech................Bouncer and Bazookaman are "brownshirt radicals."
All through the Vietnam war, there were demonstrations, the great black marches on D.C., there has been a multitude of civil unrest activities over the years, but until NOW, our government had NEVER started name-calling toward the American people voicing their grievances.
I just want to know why the hell it is, that when the LEFTWING groups can demonstrate, march, block steets, start riots, decade after decade, it's "DEMOCRACY----------IT"S THEIR RIGHT AS AMERICAN CITIZENS!" (peace, love, pot, gay rights, affirmative action, amnesty-------we've seen it all).
But out of the ashes, a huge chunk of taxpayers rise and say ENOUGH!!.........and suddenly, we are NAZI'S. All of those old people, some in wheelchairs, young folks, working moms-----yeah, ALL of them "staged and rehearsed by the GOP."
We're compared to Tim McVeigh.....and how DARE we question THIS government!
Those "Question Authority" bumper stickers have found their way into the hands of tens of thousands of liberal-minded car owners..............but it's somehow DIFFERENT when a RIGHT-WINGER questions it, eh?
OOPS......I forgot..........it's a LEFT wing government in power now, and THAT'S why you can't take any of THEM to task.
The TRUTH......is that the government has been caught with its hands in the cookie jar once too often, and is doing its best to descredit a movement of EXPOSURE that is proving to be significantly more that a 25-person "tea-party" protest in a smalltown parking lot.
This is REAL. People have had it, and the government is in a panic. Unless they are DEAF, DUMB and BLIND, these senators and congressmen SHOULD go back to Washington KNOWING their jobs are in SERIOUS jeopardy if they vote with their "messiah" on this one.
Not ALL of them, unfortunately. There ARE those voters out there who will continue to vote for the bums, but not in the numbers there HAVE been.
I'd venture to say that not all of the townhall protestors are Republicans, either. Having your pockets picked affects EVERYONE.
This isn't about people "not coming to terms with having a black guy in the White House", although the mainstream media would like everybody to believe that this is just some kind of rightwing "racist" thing. They continue to play that card because it's all they have left.
The press is in trouble too, and I'm GLAD to see that! More and more people are cancelling subscriptions to the liberal newspapers (the Statesman is in SERIOUS trouble and rightfully so).
As per the FCC, FOX is pulling in more viewers now than the other news networks COMBINED. That didn't happen by coincidence. People are seeking truth and balance.
If people continue to "pull their heads out", Obama will be the one-term president he should never have been to begin with, and the Dodds, Pelosis and Specters of this world will be going out the door.
Hmmm..shouting down someone at a town hall meeting is WRONG...tell that to all those that tried to shout down Palin and McCain during the election. WIT...that's right...they were LIBERALS voicing their opinion...protected by the constitution. Nice to know the constitution only works for the LEFT. If a RWE uses the same claim we are denounced as "Un-American".
The writing is on the wall, censored, people like you are slowly sliding into the mniority and all you are doing now is poking a finger in the dike. Too bad the dike has a huge crack in it. But, alas, you are too steeped in your own rhetoric, in the lies told to you by your Messiah to see. Will be nice to see the reaction when the truth is told and your bunch is shown to be the kool-aid drinkers you are. Remember, 2 quarts waters, half cup sugar, add packet and stir.
I heard this same sort of inflammatory, world-is-ending, emotionally charged, our-country-is-in-shambles talk during the 8 years of Bush. Well we are still here and the US is still intact. So obviously it was just water cooler talk after all.
Maybe.............but inept as he was, BUSH didn't have thugs, Chicago crooks and known COMUUNISTS, making up his staff.
The government wasn't headed into socialism, taking over banks, car companies and whatever ELSE it could get its filthy hands on, and it wasn't ridiculing decent Americans who were only exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
The American people TODAY have VERY legitimate reasons to be concerned, no matter WHAT side of the fence one might happen to be on.
Twil............what you say, makes me think about two guys in a conversation, way up high on the stern of the Titanic.
The bow is already underwater, cargo holds continuing to fill with water. Lifeboats moving out away from the ship.
One guy says: "Hey man, this ship is SINKING! We need to do something if we can!"
To which the other guy replies, "Aw hell, folks have been sayin' that for the past two hours, and we're still HERE, ain't we?"
And again, shouting people down is not debating or protesting when your in a town hall meeting or any other public forum. Left or Right.
Wow you guy's don't listen/read to well. He's not my Messiah, he's just another president. And I don't believe in conspiracy theories. You fellas are just falling for the same crap as the militia's did when Clinton got into office. "they're going to take our guns our freedom." So you fear-heads go out buy up all the ammo, guns and survival gear leaving the rest of us even headed gun owners with no bullets to target practice with, while you guys hide in your shelters waiting for the apocalypse. But I guess you greed-heads are contributing to the economy in-between the panic attacks. So, thanks.
Nobody panicked to any great degree during Clinton's time, because there was enough republican clout to fend off most of his crap. As a matter of record, his assault ban cost him the Congress two years into his first term, that he never got back.
The mass buying of guns and ammo THIS time, came as a legitimate concern, because most right-wingers know Obama's record on our gun rights. We also know that it is ALWAYS Democrats who introduce every anti-gun bill that hits the floor.
The difference between Clinton and NOW, is that they picked up enough seats to ram through whatever they want now, with not even the chance of a VETO from the Oval Office. Sotomayor proved that, along with every bill they're hurried through thus far.
A lot of gun owners aren't taking any chances, and the "great buy-out" started the day after the election.
Gunmakers, ammo-makers and sporting good shops raised prices sharply to make as much money as they can in case the government DOES force a shutdown.
But Censored......if you're having a hard time finding ammo to target practice with, you can't blame the old Bazookaman here for that. I've seen this crap COMING since the Clinton era, and have been quietly, gradually preparing for it, so I was NOT involved in the mass hysteria at the gunshops.
Oh, I hit the shops every few days just to keep up with things and will occasionally pick up a few specialty items.
If YOU'RE short on ammo, can't find it readily, and don't like what it costs now, it's your own fault for not being a little bit "paranoid" yourself.
What makes your ship-is-sinking, end-of-civilization tirades any more credible than all of the other that have polluted our ears since the time of Julius Caesar? Trying to convince me with an emotionally-charged, I-have-not-been-there-but-you-have monologue does not work on me.
Hey dude..............I'm just telling you what I think. Don't matter to me personally whether you believe it or not.
I know I'm out of line here, because Princess Pelosi and friends have declared people like me don't HAVE the right to express an opinion anymore........we're all disruptive, mean-spirited, brownshirt NAZI's now, Un-American right wing extremists, and through this new "Radio Czae Mark Lloyd, they want to shut down free speech through the radio stations as well.
They're SURE to go after FOX, now that their own media is so far behind now.
The ship IS sinking, Twil. You can look the other way and pretend not to see it, and it's your choice to do that.
For the record though, there's a heavy difference between Julius Caeser and America. A HEAVY difference:
THIS was a free country after we booted the British out. Our generations of patriots have KEPT it that way.
But it is WE..........who haven't thought for ourselves at the ballot boxes...........
It is WE........who have not STOOD UP until now
It is WE........who have stood by and watched other nations fall to despots, yet STILL sat back and allowed this to happen
It is WE...........who are to blame.
I'm a hell of a lot hotter at the voters than I am at this regime...............they didn't put THEMSELVES in power! And I am especially hostile about the ones who CONTINUE to support these goons, even NOW, after the truth has come to the surface.
All these appointed "czars"
The quadrupled deficit
The trillions of dollars from UN-READ bills
The move toward solialism
The government takeovers
The continued pork
The White House trying to deny free speech
Voter fraud and intimidation
Privacy invasion (these recent White House E-mails that Gibbs dances around)
The "SNITCH" program
The "Pull the plug on Grandma" healthcare program
Trying to shut down talk radio (Josef Goebbels would dance with delight)
...............And Pelosi has the friggin' nerve to call US the "NAZI'S!" Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Well, he DID promise "change", didn't he?............and just look at what all he's done in just the FIRST seven months. Just makes your heart go "pitty-pat" to dream about what's coming next, eh?
That little short list of accomplishments I just typed out...............what do your all-knowing, degree-packing left wing professors say about that?
"All in the name of progress" I suppose.
I think I'll go get a cup of coffee, then walk around Railroad Park for a bit. Got a wedding to play for this afternoon, but as soon as that's over.................I think I'll run up to Boise, hit the book stores and see if i can find a copy of "Mein Kampf."
After all............if I'm a "NAZI" now, I guess I'd better brush up and learn about how I'm supposed to act, so I TOO can be "politically correct", eh?
Besides few Americans can handle hard truth. Politicians dress things up and sugarcoat things because that is what people want. I worked on the phone for three years. My blunt, frank, and brutally honest approach usually resulted in my escalating to my supervisor. When I would go against my conscience and sugarcoat basic ideas, people responded well. The point is that our national language is B.$.
Citizens (with a few exceptions) would not respond well if our leaders simply told us that times will be tough and we need to step up. If they left it at that, everybody would cry foul and we would have record protests. Yet, in the big scheme of things that is the truth of the matter. No speech is going to help the economy recover. Only actions by the everyday person will do it. Overall people avoid the truth and respect those who can put the best sheen on simple truths.
Nazis wanted a return to simpler terms. They deplored modern civilization that gave everyone a chance to rise from the farm or streets to something grander. They longed for a return to times similar to that of the 14th century when luck or being born to the right family mattered most. It is called Volkism. Besides that, they were just cowards who could not handle that their limited skill set was not being rewarded by society. Germany at that time was moving towards a society where knowing how to pick a fight and fire a pistol were not the only skills one needed. Being educated and knowing more than how to wrestle in the mud, drink beer, and beat your wife were demanded of young men. These stalwarts of past ignorance felt shafted and needed an excuse to enact revenge on those who were "alienating" them. Its called grow up in my opinion.
*simpler times* , I meant to say.
My career as an editor would be shortlived.
Giving the "devil his due", I wouldn't exactly say they were cowards. They were NOT a huge military concern, but came closer than most people know, to actually stomping the rest of us into oblivion.
If Hitler had sense enough to listen to his advisors, and held off starting the war for another couple of years, they would have HAD the numbers of jet fighters, missiles and Navy to THROTTLE us all! They were well ahead of everyone else in technology. Had he committed the resources, there is good reason now to believe they would have had the "Bomb" well before us, too.
It is fortunate for us all that Hitler was as impatient as he was, or we might well be "sprechening zie Deutsch" right now.
Their army was incredibly efficient for its size. Their U-Boats could dive deeper, and were equipped with accoustical torpedos.
The battlesip Bismarck took the HMS Hood out in 6 minutes, and in retaliation, it took half the British fleet nearly two hours to put her under.
They had operational squadrons of jets in late 1944, and had been hitting England with V-1 and V-2 guided missiles consistently.
No, the NAZI's were dirty dudes, and despicable to boot, but I certainly wouldn't say they were cowards.
A courageous man can weather the storm no matter how society views one. Typically the neighborhood bully is really a scared little boy that is insecure. They have no confidence in what they do and so have to make someone else feel as wretched and powerless as they are. I have the experience of an older brother that puts on the angry, take-nothing-from-anybody, my-package-is-bigger-and-better-than-anyone-else type. When it comes down to it, he feels belittled by those who are productive, go-getters, strong-but-not-boisterous-and-outspoken, and have strong values.
The change in life from very simple agrarian, simple production, male-dominated ways to times where no matter the level of courage, fighting skill, or bad attitude there was a place for everybody. People could have productive potential without needing to assert themselves on everyone and be the ignorant $%$%$ just to be one. A person could be respected and valued by society without these unpleasant qualities. More was going to demanded of someone if they were going to be socially accepted. This pissed them off. Hitler writes about this in Mein Kempf. He deplores that simply being a soldier did not elevate one to godlike status. He hated that he was not the perfect soldier. He was weak, not very courageous, and thoroughly un-masculine in some ways. He had been rejected by society. His niche denied and so knew that there were others who felt alienated by society.
Germany had been a loose confederation of small duchys. Never had it been dominant. In fact, it had been the whipping boy more often than not in the history of Europe. It now felt that it needed revenge. Their own lack of unity was to blame for the defeats of the past. Jews were just a convenient scapegoat for their displaced anger.
I know that you value men who die with their rifle in their right hand and their flag in the other. I value that a man stands by his convictions and does not need to exorcise his demons on others just because they are there. Hitler knew that a combination of passionate speeches and displaced anger was his niche to feeling adequate and needed in life. His own feeling of inadequacy fueled this. He knew that Jews, Slavs, and Gypsys were easy targets due to being mostly poor. They were typically blamed for alot of the misfortunes of Germany and Austria.
So ends the tirade but if these men were so great then why did they wage war against those who could not fight back? If they were so great why could they not weather the storm and conquer their own social demons without war. I have issues that few will understand but I do not exact my anger on those who fit the mold of my older brother.
My stand is one that your generation of "encounter group discussions" will probably NEVER understand, and I don't expect you to, anyway.
It is the stand on one's willingness to die on his feet, before he'll live on his knees.
And all the denial in the world won't change the fact, that this IS what it's gonna come to.
I guess the point is that if one is going to die in a violent conflict, I would think that one would want to know that one died doing the right thing. From the German standpoint, I would feel ashamed that we picked a fight just because we were angry and felt that Jews, Slavs, and Gypsys were easy targets
Not simply fighting a war that is really just displaced anger. Germany was the aggressor. Its initial victims had done nothing wrong. Nazis simply took advantage of those who were weary of war and poor. There is nothing to revere about someone who can shoot an unarmed civilian. The Allied forces that eventually overtook them did something that no words of gratitude can account for. I am critical of those who give Nazis any credit. They took advantage of a desparate country and were simply men who could not handle contemporary life. That is weak to me.
The Germans did in fact, die for a bad cause, an evil and twisted purpose. But a certain amount of military credit SHOULD be given, considering what they were able to do with the numbers of things and people they had to do it with.
When revolt finally comes HERE, it will be for the very freedoms and liberties our founders fought and died for to begin with. This will be the most JUST CAUSE we have ever had.
And shame on ALL of us who have collectively STOOD BY and allowed the erosion to happen, whereas we're gonna have to do it AGAIN!
We shouldn't have to pay for the same real estate twice, but that's what it has come to.
Look at the light side of it Twil..........in whatever capacity, YOU are only gonna have to get involved ONCE in your lifetime.
I've already HAD my "go-round" with communists 40 years ago, and now at 61, with health issues to boot, I'm gonna have to lock and load one more time to try and save something for my grandkids.................from our OWN FRIGGIN GOVERNMENT!
The SAME bureaucrats who took the SAME oath as I did................except I never forgot MINE!
This is not to be the know-it-all but pure communism is not inherently evil. If one follows the ideals that Marx outlines in Das Kapital, the situation would not be one of oppression. Now it is unrealistic that any society would ever follow the doctrine. Besides the leaders that have classified themselves as communist have simply been power-hungry, heartless, totalitarian dictators that use the communist label to appear as if they care about their people. Trying to paint a picture of equitable distribution of wealth and resources. Ignorant and desperate people want to hear that they will have a chance to escape their present conditions. So these dictators use this a diversion and then exact their oppressive and often cruel ways upon the population. Marx's ideals were not followed by Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Caecescu, or Castro. Finally, pure communism is inconsistent with human nature.
And everyone of those dictators caused many times more genocide than even the NAZI's did.
Our country was founded as a Republic, and needs to return there.............NOT where these criminals in Washington are trying to take us.
THEY need to be deported, right along with the illegals.
www.factcheck.org
Mr Dave Thompson: I don't know why you felt the need to question me concerning when I write or where I write and whether my boss doesn't agree with what I write. (For those just tuning in, see his comment to my blog Czar #1 & #2) I have not questioned anyone else's right to write, nor have I asked where they work or when they write or if they are using a personal or company computer! But because of you and another mean-spirited commenter, I had to keep posting the time everytime that I wrote. As if it is anyone's business that I have taken a vacation (Aug.10-21) & decided to blog a few times; or anyone's business when I have my lunch break at home; or when I have taken comp-time off. Nobody else on here has to justify when they write so why in the freaking-fracking heck-a-palousa do I? And by the by, factcheck, my bottom! (Time 7:22pm)
Maybe he's working for ACORN Kim.........he's gonna help them with the census next year, when they start trying to find out how much money you have in the bank and what time you go to work!
And Mr. Thompson, I wouldn't be overly concerned about when and where Kim writes her blogs, when "Priness Pelosi" is taking her friends and family all over the country in her own AIRLINER that we're all paying for..............and Michelle Obama can summon up an airliner at HER beck and call, fly to Paris to shop, then over to England for fish & chips.
You remember England, don't you? Our "allies" who turn terrorists loose to jubilant homecomings, just like Obama does from GITMO.
And WHO do you suppose is paying for all of these stinking "CZARS" that none of us asked for?
If Kim takes a few minutes to write a blog in DEFENSE of our freedom, I don't have a problem with that, no matter WHERE she is at the time. This IS our country at stake, you know.
Or maybe you don't.
The numbers may be higher with Stalin and Mao but the length of time is greater. I think that you use Communist as a derogatory term and nothing else. The policies set forth by this administration do not show communal ownership. That is the cornerstone of Marx and Engels. They deplored private property. They felt that the working class would eventually overthrow the upper class and that over time a compromise would be made. This compromise would be communal ownership and proportional revenue to all. This supplied that all worked and were productive. Again, it is a bit inconsistent with human nature.
Well, WHATEVER you want to "politically correctly" call it, it's as wrong as two men in bed together, and these bozo's need to be removed, one way or the other, before there's nothing left to debate about.
Its called being logical. If I am going to make accusations, I come strong with objective logic and/or facts. Referring to someone as a communist, I would think that I would back that up with more than just reactionary rhetoric. Oh well, it takes all types to make the world go around.
Ok....what would YOU call a government that disregards its own Constitution, and takes over banks and large corporations............and if given the chance, will hold the medical power of life and death over what USED to be a "free people?"