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Not Only The South
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"The South Shall Rise Again."......how often have we heard that in our lifetimes?
Well.......there now exists a Confederate National Party. Our local self-admitted socialist, and world expert on everything, "Jacknife" left a comment on a recent blog proclaiming "Down With the Confederacy"...........obviously suggesting that the modern Confederate party would seek to enslave all the blacks. Now, slavery WAS an issue during the Civil War...and of course...the only issue most people remember, as we've been taught in our schools and homes for generations now. The KKK, using that same "Stars and Bars" flag, kept those same beliefs alive. But the driving force behind the South's contempt for the North was government intrusion...............not so very different from what we call "Big Brother" today. Slavery is wrong. I'll say it again so as not to be mis-interpreted (which will probably happen ANYWAY, knowing a few of my "adoring fans")...........slavery is WRONG, and SHOULD have been stopped. The Confederate party of TODAY, if you take the time to check it out, is re-emerging...NOT to save the South, but to save the country. When I talk with people, here, in Nevada, Arkansas, Oregon, Arizona, even California.......I hear no end of things about getting the government out of our lives. The CNP's agenda is a matter of public record. Here are a few of the highlights from that agenda: 1. Equality and freedom for ALL, Regardless of race, creed or ethnic background. 2. LIMITED government, answerable to the PEOPLE (government is now too large and powerful) 3. Abolish slavery in ANY form 4. Make the right of secession of any state an inalienable and irrefutable right. 5. Make ENGLISH our official language 6. Remove all powers at the Federal level not explicitly given to government by the Constitution 7. IMMEDIATE withdrawal from the U.N., and eviction of all U.N. agencies and organizations from U.S. soil 8. Abolishment of the Federal Reserve Bank 9. Abolish the income tax, replace with direct levy of states in proportion to their populations (Constitutional, by the way) 10. Withdrawal of U.S. troops from all foreign nations 11. No politician at ANY level to serve more than two terms 12. ALL CNP candidates MUST come from the working class Is there something WRONG with any of that?.....is there?*** .................now, take ANY or all TWELVE......haven't EACH of us talked out doing these things if "it were up to US?" How many times have you sat in a coffee shop booth or sat in front of your television and said......."We OUGHT TO.........(fill in the blank)? Never heard that from McCain or Obama, did ya? NONE of this exists on the Republican or Democrat platform. They guard their own bank accounts and little else. "Jacknife" pushes his socialist platform. Do some research and you'll find that: 1. Socialism prompotes a completely classless society 2. Government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. 3. No private property, everybody's the same and gets the same benefits, which eliminates competition 4. Socialized medicine might look good on paper, but with the government running it, you could DIE from your illness, before you'd ever get to see a doctor (NOT of your choice) 5. THIS ONE..............THIS ONE.....is reason ENOUGH to run these guys out of here............Throughout its entire 54 year history, ALL EIGHT Secretary Generals of the "One World Order United Nations.....have been either a communist or a socialist. What does THAT tell you!! No one in their right mind (which might exclude you-know-who), could BEGIN to believe that the citizens in this country (of ANY color), would stand by and allow SLAVERY to re-surface in America. America is a lot closer to folding than most people think, and there are MUCH higher priorities to get it stopped and turned around, than trying to bring back something no one would ever tolerate today. China just opened a bank in New York, with over a TRILLION dollars in assets. That was just announced today. "Eminant Domain" is taking land from honest citizens. People are losing their homes and jobs all over this country, not just in the south. The borders are still open. There are still terrorists running around looking to kill us. The Feds are still wire-tapping Our 1st Amendment is under siege Our 2nd Amendment is under siege With ALL THIS going on, and America being sold out from under us, do you think this "new Confederacy" has NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO than plant cottonfields, hang "whites only" signs on public restrooms, and make 'em all go to the back of the bus? Are you NUTS? Unlike most.......THEY realize what's at stake here! The Confederate National Party is by NO MEANS large enough or organized enough at this time to do anything about it................. But they're the ONLY ones out there that seem to WANT to! Jacknife's socialist system not only seeks to turn individual citizens into equalized subjects, but it would eventually turn everything we've fought for since our inception, right over to the U.N. on a silver platter. "ALL FOR THE WELFARE OF THE STATE", eh? We need to "rise again.".......not just the south, but every AMERICAN who desires to remain as such. And you know folks, if ANYBODY would be able to recognize slavery, it WOULD be the South....would it not? That being said, I think they SEE what's coming, as MANY of us do, and don't want to be slaves THEMSELVES to a "Big Brother" dictatorship that once in place, could NEVER be reversed. In the 1860's, it was the "Yankees". In the 21st Century, it's the "Feds" Sometimes it TAKES a one-time "master" to be able to spot ANOTHER one. When the South DOES "rise again", a bunch of us better rise WITH them, or go under. But in all respect to Jacknife, this is still a free country, and if he's content to be a slave, that's his choice, and I certainly concede his right to make it. But I will die on my feet, before I'll live on my knees. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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All that is great until we have another Katrina!
When's the government coming with my check, why ain't the government hear to fix this NOW........
The CNP has about as much chance of making it as Ralph Nader has of ever becoming the president of the United States.....
You're right, workingbee. The CNP hasn't much of a chance, because as we all know by now........people still haven't learned to think for themselves yet. They just vote the way the media tells them to.
And since you brought up Katrina.......that is a PICTURE PERFECT example of what I've been saying about "Big Brother"............remember the goon squads?, breaking through front doors, pushing residents around, taking their personal weapons, then forcing them to leave their homes whether they wanted to or not?
I'm glad you brought that up!
In these days it's all about taking the easiest route....... which is going to give me the most benny's with the least amount of effort by me......That is why we have our current president elect..... he offered the most benny's, all they had to do if follow......easy to follow, hard to be a leader.........
Yeah you're right about that, especially with this new "pied piper" of ours.
Leader...........we haven't had a leader in that White House since reagan, and no reason to believe we will.
No "third" party will ever work in replacing either of the two majors in a two-party system. Almost all have too limited appeal.
What would actually improve public policy would be statutory reforms to abolish impediments to a multi-party system, in which the Democrats and Republicans had to build broad, inclusive coalitions with other factions in legislatures, be it federalists and cultural conservatives for Republicans - or what have you. It'd bring six or seven perspectives to an issue.
Take health care. We do not have and do not want, with a few possible exceptions known for craziness, a free-market health care system. Before a bill is ever paid, the government, in the public's interest, controls supply through licensing. Not for the sake of controlling supply, but because the public needs confidence the person attending to their medical needs is qualified.
Now, health care is expensive for a variety of reasons - monopolistic patenting laws, malpractice litigation costs, the costs associated with getting a medical degree, etc. Our "two-party" system spends 14 years bickering over whether to pay high bills as consumers or to pay high bills as taxpayers.
The best way to come to a solution is by bringing six or seven perspectives to the table instead of two.
Now, if the government being "too large and powerful" is a reference to hacking away and hacking away at regulations, so perhaps one day any yahoo with a couple hundred and a medical supplies catalog can advertise their services, then I'm not sure the "CNP" ought to be one of those six or seven.
Oh, Mike...you said you're weren't going address politics anymore. I may have misunderstood. I think a lot of you beyond politics of course.
But the last states' rights person I had absolute respect for was General Lee, with whom I also totally disagreed. (Even Lee's decision was reluctant.) Lincoln had it better with "a house divided against itself cannot stand."
Proper and fair regulations, in my opinion, are needed. So are taxes, darn it. I absolutely do not believe in breaking up the country. No Stars and Bars for me; Stars and Stripes instead. United Nations? Lots and lots of improvement needed there but I believe in something of the kind. Problems in the country? Oh, yes, but the poeple need to work together to try to make it better, not run off.
Oh, do I owe you such an apology, Mike; please forgive me. Bad mood is not excuse. I myself have defended freedom of speech so that I've gotten in trouble for it, and here I go, going against those beliefs...I'm sorry.
How convenient that you left out the part of the plans for your confederate party is to repeal the 14th and 15th amendments.
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[This is the #1 plan on the Confederates Agenda]
1. New Amendment to Constitution which repeals 14th and 15th amendments.
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I added these these 13th, 14th and 15th amendments for the benefit of the people who your trying con.
Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.
Amendment XIII
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2-4 [omitted].
Section 5.
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
AMENDMENT XV
Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2.
The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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And as for socialism turning people into robots, try reading some books on the history of labor in the U.S.A. Start with the History of Chicago and the Haymarket Riots. More specifically- Death in the Haymarket, by James Green. Then You'll learn that socialism was not about turning people into machines but giving the people control of their working environments and social environments. It was the socialist/unions and in some cases the anarchists that gave us Fair Pay, the rights to health benefits, sick leave and pay, vacation and pay, and the 8hr work day. It was the government who demonized the labor movement because they saw that these parties and unions were becoming to powerfully. Which in turn causes the politicians to lose power and the Ceo to lose their million dollar pay checks. If it hadn't of been for the socialist and the unions we'd all still be working 16 to 18 hour days getting paid near to nothing and absolutely no safety regulations.
But whatever, if people really care, they can check out our crazy parties themselves.
www.confederateamericanpride.com
http://www.socialistparty-usa.org/
Opps that wasn't the party address for the confederates, sorry.
There is a link for it just under this section.
[Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy] in the address listed above.
[2. Government controls all means of production and distribution of goods. bazookas opinion]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Socialist Parties Fact:
Production For Use, Not For Profit
In a socialist system the people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically controlled public agencies, cooperatives, or other collective groups. The primary goal of economic activity is to provide the necessities of life, including food, shelter, health care, education, child care, cultural opportunities, and social services.
These social services include care for the chronically ill, persons with mental disabilities, the infirm and the aging. Planning takes place at the community, regional, and national levels, and is determined democratically with the input of workers, consumers, and the public to be served.
I for one don't deny the positive results of the union movement. Hard-fought tho' they were, they were definitely worth it.
But doesn't anyone out there see what's happening today?..............Once again, just like in the 1860's.........we have the "North" as it were.......trying to dictate to us how to live, what we must accept, how to vote....etc.
Senior Lady, the United States, as it stands now is going away. The new "Stars and Bars" would seek to STOP that. They are the ONLY ones STANDING UP on this.
I'm not naive.......... I know they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of ever coming to power. There are simply too many "programmed" citizens out there who will support the "red" or "blue" because they've been trained to believe there IS not, nor will there ever BE, any other choices to vote for.
I'm an American.
I AM AN AMERICAN. I believe in our Constitution, our sovereignty, our freedoms and rights.....so when I look at our two "major" parties, with their tampering and chipping away of our rights, one by one.............
........when I see this country slipping away, being sold out to other countries and outside interests, and the United Nations "licking its chops"....when I see our borders being opened up and this North American Union being formed up......................................................when I see land being taken away that has been in familes for generations, when we are systematically robbed by the FRB, and so much of our tax money is spent overseas, when I see our Constitution being slowly dismantled and ignored.................
....and there is only ONE group of political people taking an open, public stand and saying "HALT" "This is B.S.!! This country is NOT for sale..........we want the scumbags OUT!"...........
...................how can I, if I call myself an American....how can I NOT get behind them?
Supporting Ron Paul might have been a futile move and a wasted vote, but was Constitutionally the right thing to do..........and a guy has to be able to sleep at night....if he cares and has a conscience.
When Ron didn't get the nomination I supported the McCain ticket......NOT for McCain, NEVER for McCain, but for Palin, who DOES care about our sovereignty. Her husband would like to SECEDE, if nothing else.............(Good for YOU, Todd....at least try to save Alaska, before the bureaucrats ruin that too).
The CNP platform is LOADED with things we've gotten away from..........which is why we're going down the tubes.
If you don't think you'd like the "Stars and Bars", do a little digging and see how things would be under total U.N. control. And THAT is where we're headed, if we don't get off our butts in MASS and do SOMETHING.
Ah......more corruption in Obama's home turf, eh?
Makes you wonder....WHAT is it going to take? How much more?
Pat.......I'm all for ANY group that seeks to restore this country, and particular ANYBODY wanting to rid us of the communistic, haven-for-terrorists U.N.
But the media is NOT, and will be a HUGE obstacle. Can it be done? Yes, eventually, and I will do all I can to promote PRO liberty candidates, but we may not have the time it's going to take, before the population in general has to stand and either fight or perish.
As we talked about, I believe that under a different name and symbol, a LOT of people would already be on board.
But when you say the word "Confederate" or show the "flag", which sourherners have as MUCH RIGHT to display as the Mexicans have with THEIRS....
........OH, you dirty SLAVERS........get your sheets out.........burned any crosses lately?
And it's stupid. We both know that. Schumer, Feinstein and company were ALL OVER that guy down in Georgia for displaying a Confederate flag in his own front yard........but NOBODY said jack-bo-diddly, when thousands of Mexicans marched all over Southern California displaying THEIR flags......even to the point of replacing an AMERICAN flag with one, on a U.S. Post Office flagpole!
."Oh, that's different, you see, that was just a part of their heritage" I guess the old guy in Georgia isn't entitled to HIS!"
I'm with YOU on this Pat. I know, and YOU know, this isn't about some re-enactment of discrimination---------except toward the terrorists and government corruption.
Incidently.......(open question to EVERYBODY out there)..........During 9/11, the United Nations building was NEVER a target, when it SHOULD have been considered a most LUCRATIVE prize, to take out a lot of high-ranking important people, would it not?
But the U.N. Building was never hit, nor even on the list, as far as we've been able to ascetain from the GITMO bunch. Don't some of you out there find that just a little bit strange?
There are too many terrorist-friendly representatives in that building, lots of rogue nations that our tax dollars support..........The United States picks up the lion's share of the total operating costs of 177 nations, who vote AGAINST us 82% of the time.
The CNP wants us OUT.......and the U.N. EVICTED.
So does Ron Paul
The Democrats do NOT
Many Republicans do NOT
The Socialists do NOT
Obama does NOT
Biden does Not
The Clintons do NOT
....the list of "sell-outs" go on and on........
The Confederates want America to be America again.
So do I.
Anyone who doesn't believe in the freedoms and liberties that generations of real Americans have fought and died for...........don't let the door smack your butt on your way out!
So............does the CNP get the White House in 2012?.............probably not, but I cannot knowingly, continue to vote for thieves anymore.
The CNP that has C.S.A. under its little flag? The C.S.A. confederate states of america which the following is taken directly from their "constitution"
"Section 9.
The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.
Congress shall also have power to prohibit the introduction of slaves from any State not a member of, or Territory not belonging to, this Confederacy.
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.
No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
It's racist no matter how many times you say it isn't. If they didn't want to be racists then they wouldn't have used the confederate rag. But they want to be racist so they use a symbol of the worst that America has to offer. The malcontent miscreant racist scum that they identify with and that they are.
CNP = Racist
CSA= Racist
Confederate Flag= Pride in a racist past..
Here's the link to the "confederate states of america"......
http://www.confederatestatesofamerica.or...
"I AM AN AMERICAN. I believe in our Constitution."
The Constitution the "Confederate National Party" wants to empower states to abandon, under agenda item 4, "Make the right of secession of any state an inalienable and irrefutable right?"
Nowhere in your CNP Top Twelve does it specifically say the individual liberties spoken for in the Bill of Rights are absolute and take precedence over government authority at either state or federal level. It seems the confederacy then and now wasn't and isn't about empowering the people but the state capitols.
"As we talked about, I believe that under a different name and symbol, a LOT of people would already be on board.
But when you say the word 'Confederate' or show the 'flag,' which sourherners have as MUCH RIGHT to display as the Mexicans have with THEIRS...."
I am grateful myself people are free to fly the Mexican flag and the Confederate flag and even the Nazi flag. All three would draw criticism from people exercising their own First Amendment rights. And I'm not going to rally to any of those flags, no matter who's flying them. And set aside, for just a moment, the whole issue of slavery - why would I ever rally to a flag that celebrates the men who tried to kill my grandfather's grandfather?
And before anyone mentions The North's "intrusion" into Southern affairs, ah, no, you've got that backwards.
Not only was slavery permitted by the feds, The Fugitive Slave Act was passed in 1850 and not repealed until well after the insurrectionists attempted to starve the U.S. soldiers at Fort Sumter. The Fugitive Slave Act intended to force northerners, when they encountered a runaway slave in their free states, to return him into southern custody.
It was a blatant effort to force the north not only to tolerate slavery from a distance but to legitimize it when southerners failed to adequately, well, deny men and women their God-given freedom and they escaped.
Thanks for the history lesson, but I'm talking about NOW................2008.
Growing up in a rough neighborhood of a big city, in the early 60's, I was a gang member and a thief.
Today I'm a 22-year service veteran, and play lead guitar in a Baptist church.
I WAS a thief. I am NOT a thief today.
We are not dealing with the same "CSA" today. Whatever their heritage might have been 150 years ago, they are the only ones NOT trying to sell us out to the highest bidder today, like your Illinois governor trying to sell Obama's seat.
Didn't surprise me a bit that he came out of Chicago. This will make two in a row now, I understand.
Incidently, Mike, you might be glad to know that the old bazookamam here DOESN'T think Obama knew anything about it. He's been so busy campaigning these past two years, I doubt if he's been up on ANYTHING going down in his own neighborhood.
Back to this other thing though, if I were you, I wouldn't be nearly so concerned about what great grandma & grandpa were dealing with way back then..............as I would about what our grandSONS and grandDAUGHTERS are GOING to be facing if we DON'T do something about stopping this cave-in.
If a guy on a motorcycle stopped and helped you get your stranded car going again, or helped you change a tire...............would it MATTER if he was once a "Hell's Angel?"
Priorities change, Ex-Intern. The CNP as it stands today...realizes as many of us do, that we are is danger of losing all of our OWN liberties, and..dare I use the word?......becoming SLAVES OURSELVES to a dictatorship type of government.
At this point, one might say........"GOOD, now they'll know how it was for the blacks...what goes around comes around!"
Ok...let's suppose that......but this is the 21st century, and what "comes around" is going to nail us ALL, no matter WHAT our thoughts, beliefs and positions.
As I said earlier....sometimes it TAKES a former "MASTER" to be able to quickly recognize "ANOTHER ONE."
Most of "John Q. Public" doesn't see it, because it is just merely another one of those things that "could never happen here."
Aren't you even a little curious, that the government that USED to be the North, is today, intruding into private lives on a grand scale NEVER IMAGINED by the old rebels who really had little agenda beyond their own plantations?
When you take an honest look at how our government is raping, pillaging, lying to and cheating this country.............the old South did little more than steal a few candy bars from a Circle K, by comparison.
Even while we continue being screwed by the red and blue................and there's a LOT more on the way, friend...............the guys who WANT to stop it, are still looked upon as racists, who's only desire is to burn crosses and wear robes,eh?
They will FIGHT the bureaucrats while most of these "political professors" and media worshippers out there, just roll over and surrender.
Well........ if I'm still alive and breathing when the time comes, the new CSA is gonna have some help, because I'm not going to be a "subject" like the rest of those who still have this blind allegiance and trust in the system, no matter HOW corrupt.
"It's all good......it's all good"
What a pathetic cliche to be used by so many today.
Bazookaman,
I don't believe you have any faith in your fellow Americans. You talk about how horribly wrong this country is but it is by far the best thing going. If your fantasy does come true, a dictator takes over, and you can run around the streets with your bazooka and kill the bad people, there will be many more everyday Americans out there leading the way than there will be racists fighting for the confederacy. You use the same rational as the far left. The ends justify the means. So a couple blacks go back in to slavery, big deal, at least we got our country back?
It's not the old CSA, it's the CSA of today that wants, "No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
No matter how many times that you say a racist group, with a racist history, flying a racist flag, sporting a racist title, isn't racist, they are.
Bravo pjsdad...a racist is a racist who hangs out with racists and wants to convert US into racists to create a racist state. I for one will die trying to stop this scurge of bigotry, as it is a cancer that MUST e taken from tha body before it kills it.
ayre,
Where was this rally held? I didn't hear anything about it except for you saying you were heading up to Boise for it? Was it advertised?
So.....when it all shakes out, you'd rather have the U.N. as your new "mommy and daddy?"
pjsdad.........you're PARTIALLY right....I have no faith in MOST Americans, and I have the 4th of November to back that up.
Just so we don't misunderstand each other, gentlemen,......I'm not out recruiting for the CNP. I'm just stating an opinion, like we ALL do on these blogs.
I don't really give a rat's butt what any of you out there do. As I've compared before on an earlier blog, it's like a classroom in school. Every subject is different, and some appesl more than others, depending on the students. Be it math, civics, English or science......even if only one or two get something out of it, it wasn't a wasted class.
I'm not going to split hairs on some of this stuff, nor get bogged down into deep rhetoric exchanges. There isn't time. Most political arguments generate more heat than light, anyway.
I'm gonna leave it at this, then move on. You guys take this any way you want:
This world today is made up of sheep and wolves. The sheep go to slaughter.....the wolves where they wish.
And the meek shall inherit the earth,,,
I'm not sure whether to start with the convenience or the condescension.
How about the convenience.
"Thanks for the history lesson, but I'm talking about NOW................2008."
Well, you're talking about now when you're not talking about the Revolution. Or the Third Reich. Or claiming that in the Civil War that "the driving force behind the South's contempt for the North was government intrusion." But when the historical record doesn't support that lie, only then is it time to not "be nearly so concerned" with historic facts and what parallels can be drawn.
Now, comparing yourself to a teacher, whose brighter pupils, "even if only one or two get something out of it" when they buy into your selective accounting of facts, which then means "it wasn't a wasted class." That's just patronizing.
And somehow, the prediction of the CNP's electoral defeat manages to be both. How high-minded of you to vote for the CNP thie- I mean, non-thieves! That's right, teacher says to ignore that the historic movement they glorify advocated the theft of labor from a slave workforce.
It's too bad all of us who disagree with you are either brainwashed or have malicious, anti-American motives - otherwise, you'd convince us with your blog carried by a mainstream newspaper's Web site to vote CNP, and they MIGHT even be able to crawl out of eighth place, behind Jackknife's ticket and the party that advocates levitating things through telekinesis.
And I generally don't make predictions, but here's a twofer - democracy will not be suspended and the 2012 election will go on as elections now do - a prediction that ought to go without saying - and the Greens, Natural Law, Libertarian, Constitution and at least one openly socialist party will each pull more votes than the CNP, provided it even gets on any ballots.
Hey guys.......like I said, it don't matter to me personally what any of you do. And I already admitted the CNP doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
But there's a whole lot of us who do NOT accept the gaggle this country has become, and where it is headed.
Likewise, there are a whole lot of us who aren't just going to roll over and sign "well, that's just the way it is".............and then just take it.
And I agree with you on the elections of 2012, Ex-Intern. If there isn't a revolt by then, (although I think there's gonna HAVE to be), some of the other parties WILL probably do better..............aa LONG as they've been around, they SHOULD.
And by all means, let's not forget Obama's media. No message reaches the people when it's stifled.
Spout what you want, fellas, but if you don't stop looking in the rear view mirror and start paying attention to what's happening on the freeway in front of you, there's gonna be a pile-up like you can't believe.
Yes Jacknife...the meek SHALL inherit the earth. The Jews found that out first hand at Auschwitz.
I've not yet voted for a CNP candidate, because I haven't known about the re-emerge until just recently, but I know enough about them so far, to keep a close eye on who they run, to make sure there's no detour from what they're saying today. I don't believe in blind allegiance to ANY party, like some of you out there. Screw the parties...country first.....although i wouldn't expect any lefty to comprehend that.
And I know THIS much..........and this is more than ANY liberal or Socialist can say about HIS party....:
Whatever you think the CNP is, at least THEY:
1. Aren't trying to sell us out.
2. Want us out of the U.N. and want the U.N. OUT of here.
3. Want LIMITED government, with NO politician serving more than 2 terms
4. Want ENGLISH to be the offical language.
5. Want the government STRIPPED of any power NOT granted them by the Constitution
6. Want the illegals OUT of here
7. Want the tax system as it was SET UP to be by our founders...not this "take and give away" crap.
8. Want a man's property to be his OWN, and what he did with it was HIS business, not the government's.
9. Want the freedoms for all, that we began with.
10. Want our troops to be used for US, not foreign countries.
11. Want our tax dollars used for US, not foreign countries.
12. Want our government to work for US, not the other way around.
13. Want the borders closed
(If there is still some traces of the OLD south, I would imagine that terrorists and traitors would either be hung or shot....not PAMPERED and catered to for the next 20 years).
And, I would think (or at least HOPE), that those predators who preyed upon our young, would be hung in a public square, for the townspeople to do as they wished, until there was nothing left to hang.
Ok boys....your turn............tell us all what YOUR parties would do to fix everything THEY'VE created.
Reagan said it best..."Government isn't the solution to the problem...government IS the problem"
A problem made up of WHO?..........and WHO?
One party has emerged that wants to DO something about it...........but no..........they all racists. "Always HAVE been, always WILL be" They don't care about taxes or terrorists....they don't care about corruption and graft...they don't care about, guns, homeland or the Chinese taking us over...they don't care if the U.N. ends up OWNING us all...
THIS is all about SLAVERY by God!" This CNP is just about putting 'em in the backs of buses, whites only restaurants, water fountains and restrooms, cottonfields and hog farms.
You "Johnny Rebs" ain't foolin' US!
...Yeah Ex, Jack, and a few of you others. You win, you saw right THROUGH it, didn'y ya?
Now.............tell us what YOUR bunch HAS done...is doing NOW...and PLANS to do.......to return America back to the people.
I want to SEE this.
I don't have a bunch. I vote. I write emails. I debate and discuss with friends and family. Closest I could come to a group would be Libertarian I guess. I probably agree with more of what you say is going sideways than most people. But I will NOT lend my small amount of wieght to an organization that is so flawed on a core subject. They want to enslave other humans. It's part of their current constitution. That's enough for me to know that they arent for me. Even if EVERY single other thing that they want to do is perfectly in line with what my little brain wants. So my party is the party of the American people doing what they do on an individual basis day in and day out. It's not flashy and heroic but it's what we got.
Mike, you are right regarding sheep and wolves. It will be interesting when the "sheep" need help from the "wolves" to survive because they have ALLOWED their rights to be taken away one by one.
The "people" need higher standards.
Missy..when I was a budding juvenile delinquent back in the late 50's/early 60's, after my dad would have to tan my butt occasionally, he'd always say something like..........."Why do you have to learn things the HARD way?
It took me a lot of years to realize that wasn't the best way to learn. Some people still can't see past next week...and that's their privilege.
You can see also, how 160 years LATER, they still think a "confederate" party............in 2008!...in 2008....is still focused on slavery, with EVERYTHING else that's going on.
But ya know what............I think I'm gonna just back away from this. I'd rather concede a pointless argument, than concede my rights...............which seems to be "ok" with them.
NOBODY, regardless of "history" is going to try to make slaves out of blacks....not in 2008, in an age where most WHITES wouldn't stand for it.
That flag is part of their heritage of the old south, and it stands for a heck of a lot more than the slavery portion it will always be eternally linked to.
It would be like , if your house caught fire.........fire truck shows up, and the guy in charge is your ex brother-in-law............and so you stand there and chew his butt about how mean he treated your sister 10 years ago. Meanwhile, your HOUSE burns to the ground.
Whatever the Confederacy used to be in everybody's mind, they are part of only the FEW who actually see what's happening to America, and what needs to be done to stop it. Because they have a stained past, the southerners of TODAY aren't taken seriously.
As long as it's the old two-party system, it's going to be "business as usual."
The politicians IN POWER AS WE SPEAK.....and also AFTER the 20th of January........are NOT on our side.
How far into hole do we have to go? How many troops do we have to lose? How much of America has to get "bargained" away.....before the liberals (and a lot of conservatives too unfortunately), stand up with one voice and say "ENOUGH!"............What do you suppose it's going to take, Missy? How much more corruption are we going to tolerate, as a people?
Yeah. "just shut up, pay your taxes and don't ask questions....you don't have a need to know.....Uncle Sam has a handle on it"
The only thing "Uncle" has his hands on is our wallets.
And incredibly, there are people out there who still defend the "system".............hasn't worked in decades, but somehow, some miracle is going to strike these 30 and 40 year congressmen and senators, into FINALLY doing something, after 5 and 6 terms...............and of course, with the "messiah" coming on board..........how can we lose?
We're being sold out, and this government isn't going to fix ANYTHING but their own off-shore accounts. Thet're gonna do it with OUR illegal tax dollars, then hit us up for MORE when they need it.
And that'll be just fine with us...........just keep those "rebels" out of here!
My plan is to keep trying to vote for the candidate most likely to withdraw from Iraq while minimizing U.S. casualties, shift the tax burden from the working middle-class on to the heiresses and trustafarians whose sloth seems to prioritize them for relief whenever Republicans get power, protect individual liberty from any threat including corporate, theocratic and parochial, and otherwise recognize and respect the value of American labor.
Regardless of party affiliation - though there's a lot more Democrats I'd vote against than Republicans I'd vote for. I've voted for both in the past, for Libertarians, Greens, and Independents. I'll write in a third-party candidate's name in if Pennsylvania's anti-ballot access policies bump them from the ballot.
"'THIS is all about SLAVERY by God! This CNP is just about putting 'em in the backs of buses, whites only restaurants, water fountains and restrooms, cottonfields and hog farms.
You Johnny Rebs ain't foolin' US!'"
THAT is a pretty good description of what the movement they glorify was ultimately about. Why lionize it if they don't think it's an impressive list of accomplishments? You've said it yourself, they'd have better luck getting into office and actually setting policy if they didn't wrap their platform up in a "heritage" many Americans associate with racism or treason or both.
Of course, had the North handled the end of the Civil War correctly and tried and executed every Southerner who lent support, material or otherwise, to the conspiracy to commit mass treason, the traitors wouldn't have stayed ensconced in civil society, re-infiltrated the Southern governments and continued to wage their war against the American principle of individual liberty. Needless decades of Blacks denied the vote and other basic freedoms, "the back of the bus," so to speak, because of the North's compassion for domestic enemies.
I've been thinking about this conversation a lot, particularly as I commute to work. It's about a half-hour drive, and it takes me past a small town where, back right before the Civil War, Quakers would help blacks escaping slavery hide from warrant agents.
If the North was intruding on the South, then why were men and women forced to hide in Pennsylvania? Because the South and their federal allies intruded on Pennsylvania's right to prohibit slavery within its own borders, turning those Quakers into criminals.
Now, even though you LOVE to bring up the past when you think it validates your craziness, you're probably about to ramble off about how this is all irrelevant history.
Except as long as I have the example those Quakers set, I never have to choose between the UN or the evil incarnate that is the confederacy and its glorification. I can still choose the Quakers.
Who says we are nothing more than slaves in 2008---ALL of us? We work to pay our Government so they can waste tons of money on crap and bail outs of this one and that one. We have NO say in any of it. They do not listen to us. This is not a "free" nation! We operate with certain "freedoms" but we really are not "free." At least in Russia and Cuba they know what they are dealing with. We have no idea here. We are slaves to a lost Government. It has been "lost" for a long time.
Mike has lived in MH for a long time. You do not even live here yet you comment on things that are going on here. Can we please check the "crazy" comments at the door. They are not very nice and can damage someone. These are just opinions----and everyone has a right to their own opinion. It is one of the "freedoms" we are still allowed unless our local paper feels it necessary to delete a comment for whatever reason they feel is "just" in their eyes. Live and let live already.
Wow, Opinion Missy, I guess this class Bradbury is teaching ain't reading comprehension, since I haven't made one reference to Mountain Home or Idaho issues. Instead, I've been setting the record straight against his vicious slurs of the North.
By the way, does Bradbury live here in the northeast? Has he ever? Are you gonna him on that in response to his ignorant ramblings about "Northern" motives and history? No, you're far too conservative NOT to be a hypocrite.
But hey, I wouldn't want to be less than "nice" to someone making excuses for the KILLING OF U.S. SOLDIERS.
Truth be told, Missy, I see no reason why people who try to justify or rationalize away treason shouldn't be "damaged." Of course, everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I still have to the right to call out someone like Bradbury when his "opinion" is the glorification of treason and parochial fascism.
My comment regarding Idaho was directed at the fact that you do not even live here yet you make comment after comment on our paper regarding a MH resident. Not that you cannot do that mind you but do you not have your own dragons to slay where you live? Do you not have a local paper, in your area, that you can comment to? Do you have no life where you live?
As for me being a conservative, I guess that is true. Our Government should be accountable. It is the least we can ask for for the dirt bags that hold office in the name of the "people."
Get off your soap box already. Have you nothing better to do? Really. Just be glad you do not live here and log off.
I can't believe YOU have the gall to tell someone else to get off their soapbox: what a paradox! You know who you are.
ayrewolf,
WAKE UP.your roots are showing... you are a YANKEE!!!!!!
Now go and tell us all about "how you spent summers" in Alabama.... but face it..... YOUR IMMEDIATE roots are Northern......
One other thing........ how come your dad "A Marine" was stationed at an Air Force Base, "Hill Air Force Base"........
And they could fly all five of 'em up five different flagpoles at the same time, it was still a movement whose central messages were empowering state and local governments to deny specific individuals liberty and denying the federal government recourse to protect individual liberty on American soil.
And of course they want me to shut up and go away, Mr. Mister - that's the conservative/CNP level of commitment to free speech right there. I guess it beats attempting to match my example of how the South, using the FSA, forced its values on Northern states with any examples of this mythical "Northern intrusion" on Southern states.
Instead, we get flag trivia. And someone pointing out I left Mountain Home for the places and people Bradbury and his buddy are dishonestly maligning.
I just think if you're going to rail against UN plotting to replace the U.S. government with a new order that holds liberty in contempt, than at least compare them to the movement that wanted to replace the U.S. government with a new confederate order that held the liberties of black Americans in contempt. Don't compare the UN to the U.S. soldiers who stood in that movement's way.
Well thank God that the CNP just amounts to a bunch of near-do-wells that will never accomplish anything. Kinda like the current polititians. They talk alot. Accomplish nothing. Want to impose their will on others. AyreWolf is a perfect example of the CNP. There has been no meetings here, it's all BS.
Ex,
My comment about the "soapbox" was directed towards an individual with whom since, I have established (albeit tentative)a rapport. I am not advocating your stance in the least.
ayre,
So I ask again, where was this rally held? I didn't hear anything about it except for you saying you were heading up to Boise for it? And then we all heard about the turnout and "new enlistees". Was it advertised?
Oh,,,so the rally was held and "reported" by someone. It wasn't really "advertised". Seems to me, if someone is looking for publicity, they would advertise in advance. But then, those "enlistees" must have just come out of the groundwork. Sounds a little fishy to me