From My Cold Dead Fingers

Posted Monday, November 10, 2008, at 10:16 AM
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  • Charlton Heston...From His Cold Dead Hands...

    Look, I know that its not popular to dis Moses and whoever else old Charlie played, and I know that it was all probably due to the early effects of Alzheimers, but this guy has not been good for our society, our kids, and the future of our culture. How's that gun "right" working out for the kids in our inner cities and as we defund education, the economy dips, and people become more and more desperate? Who parlayed the "right" to have a rifle to hunt and maybe for self protection at the beginning of time, into the "right" to have an AK-47 or a hand gun, without having to go through the inconvenience of a waiting period? Besides the ravages of Alzheimer's, he was a real weight on the progress that this human society struggles with every day around the world.

    Nice of Prezzy Bush to hold his hand tho, even as with the other hand he is working hard all the time to prevent any hope for the cure of this horrible disease....and with one hand he clutches the cold suffering hand that supports the supposed intent of the founders, as he lays waste to any reasonable laws about automatic/semi-automatic guns that might allow the founder's intent to be carried out.

    P.I.T. 08'

    -- Posted by Jacknife on Mon, Nov 10, 2008, at 12:02 PM
  • Holy cow man. Your right on the criminal level of course. But the beginning of punishment and taking personal responsibility begins in the home. And now a days parents are to consumed with being considered cool, instead of taking the lash as it were to their back ends. Then while in school, if the little brats get in trouble the teachers and administrators are powerless to teach them a lesson, because it's considered evil to punish them. So they just keep moving that way, with lack of responsibility while playing video games until they get their guns. And make the average gun owner look bad. Yes strange that I would agree with ya, but it's the truth. Hardly anyone takes responsabilty for their actions anymore, and all the cops and judges seem interested in is collecting fines. My main gripe is that during these economic times, that people would spend 500 to 700 dollars on guns, when in all likelyhood they will need that extra cash for food or paying bills. But who am I to tell people how to shop. right? I do own a gun, that I bought when I was 20. But it's nothing special just a 22 pistol, that I had to wait three days to get because of laws. But I didn't complain about it. I wasn't in dire-straights, no thugs coming for me or animals that needed killing for food. But hey, whatever. That's just my situation and I guess everyone has different obsessions. I'll bother you no more on the gun angle. But I'll be back for other topics. Booo hahahahaaaa.

    -- Posted by Jacknife on Mon, Nov 10, 2008, at 6:00 PM
  • Well said Mike.

    -- Posted by jtrotter on Mon, Nov 10, 2008, at 6:37 PM
  • Well just speaking in the terms of procrastination, You guys need to start organizing marches and protest before the ball gets rolling. Get the permits to hold peace-able demonstrations before it's to late. There'd be a whole lot less violence if your voice is heard before they try to change the laws. Hell, I'd even join the march. As long as it's against a twisted Government trying to take the citizens rights away.

    -- Posted by Jacknife on Wed, Nov 12, 2008, at 11:38 PM
  • They're already organized, it's called the NRA, and it's why I don't think Obama and the congressional leadership - particularly in the Senate - is going to get around to gun control in four years. They want to hold on to North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania too badly. Howard Dean, who got an A+ rating from the NRA every year he was governor if memory serves me, showed them traditionally conservative states can be fought for. They're not going to jeopardize their chance at setting the agenda on every other issue for federal gun control legislation, at least, not in the next four years.

    And that's still four years to rationally point out to gun control supporters that prohibitionist measures have never and will never work, and that most of our urban gun violence is criminal empires protecting their bootleg racket, whether it be drugs, prostitutes, or gambling. Giving them a new one won't help.

    That's not saying the constitutional argument is wrong - it's a right recognized in our Constitution that also happens to be the best policy. Like having law enforcement get warrants also reduces frivolous investigations and due process also doesn't waste finite jail space on people who are innocent - two other parts of the Constitution Republicans have shown themselves to be the less-reliable party on.

    -- Posted by ExInternMike on Thu, Nov 13, 2008, at 1:16 AM
  • I am well aware of the NRA,I was talking about marches man. Protests, demonstrations. The type of action that is supposed to keep America clean.

    -- Posted by Jacknife on Thu, Nov 13, 2008, at 2:29 PM
  • If a ban on gun shops within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds is a violation of the Second Amendment, then a ban on strip clubs and porn stores within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds - and such bans are not uncommon - would be a violation of the First Amendment.

    -- Posted by ExInternMike on Sat, Nov 15, 2008, at 4:28 AM
  • And if government is the "problem" then why are you so eager to give them authority to kill? If a government can't adequately administer health care or disaster relief, then how can it be trusted not to execute the innocent?

    Being dead is a much greater inconvenience than a long line or filling out some paperwork.

    -- Posted by ExInternMike on Sat, Nov 15, 2008, at 4:31 AM
  • The reference to paperwork wasn't specifically about gun registration, just about people's complaints about government bureacracy in general.

    -- Posted by ExInternMike on Sun, Nov 16, 2008, at 9:06 PM
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