One If By Land, Two If By SeaPosted Thursday, November 6, 2008, at 10:16 AM
I believe this past Tuesday will eventually become the SECOND day in our country's history that will "live in infamy."
Yesterday, Wednesday, I was still fuming from this travesty, so I drove out to visit a gunsmith buddy of mine. I always feel better when I can have conversations with correct thinking people. When I got there however, I almost didn't have a place to park! Where there are usually one or two cars or pickups out front, there was over a half dozen...and this is a small gunshop. While they don't always have a table or two at the fairgrounds gunshows, they WILL have this weekend, because business promises to be lucrative, since Tuesday night. While Obama has not stated anything lately about gun bans yet, his voting record preceeds him, and all gun owners KNOW (or SHOULD know) where the Democratic Party stands as a whole on it. Every piece of legislation designed to restrict, ban or confiscate firearms from honest people are sponsored by Congressmen and Senators of that party..........look it up, you'll find it on the internet. There are several that have been on the back burners, being held until enough votes might be available. As of January 20th, enough votes will be available, with NO possibility of any veto from the White House. While it's still not too late to acquire what one thinks they might need, the procrastination of many might prove a bit costly. I'll be going to the fairgrounds myself to pick up a few small and extra "odds & ends", but my major purchases have come in a slow steady stream since Clinton. I predict that some of these things are going to cost a third to half again more than at the last show, and go up from there the closer we get to Inaugeration Day. No, it won't be something that comes right out of the opening gate, but it'll come. Some of them, as in the past, will be quietly slipped through as a "rider" on some other bill. Most of these have been caught and ditched in the past, but I can't see it happening now, because the "Prez" is gonna do whatever his cronies advise him to do.................and where our 2nd Amendment rights are concerned, he won't need any prodding. His record speaks for itself. No.......I don't think even the DEMS are foolish enough to send their jack booted goons on a "house to house pickup" in this country. There are too many of us out here now who are fed up to the point of "lock and load-----let's "git it ON, you commies!" "Y'all ain't takin' NOTHIN'!" They know that. They also know that a lot of us are better armed and better shots than they are. They know too, that WE know, they're not going to use tanks or helicopters. They have families too living in neighborhoods all over America. What they WILL do, is enforce Obama's proposed 500% sales tax on all firearms. They will work to shut down ALL firearms and ammunution manufacturing, except for military or police use, and as Obama himself has proposed, they will seek prosecution for ANYONE using a firearm to defend his own home or family. Many of us "good guys" out here, believing that "Red Dawn" was only a movie, and something that could "never happen here." have been content with a pair of deer rifles, a pistol maybe, and a BB gun for junior...........and 100 rounds of ammo.............maybe. After the police/swat team pillaging in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath, many realized that maybe it COULD happen in other places, and they starting "arming up" a little more. Still, there was always that thought that as long as there are checks and balances in D.C., there'll always be enough Republican opposition to Constitution dismantlement. The overturning of the handgun ban in D.C. reinforced this belief. And it WAS the right thing to do. That ban was illegal from day ONE. (***Two things are CERTAIN here------the crime rate is D.C. will drop noticeably......and the media will NEVER report it***) But those who have procrastinated have just been slapped with an ice cold rag! The deed to America has just been signed over to an incoming government that will have complete free reign-------unstoppable for at least the next 2 years. And they can do a lot of damage before the public gets to vote any of them out. I'm not trying to scare anybody out there, with any "gloom and doom"..............but you need to realize, this is a golden opportunity for these nuts to use the Constitution as "fire-starter for the stove", if they so desire. After so many years of their bleeding heart rhetoric, it's hard to see where they WOULDN'T do everything they always wanted, while this back door is open, and the cops won't be here for at least another 24 months. Seven weeks before Christmas is a bad time to have to shell out the money a new rifle or pistol is soon going to cost, and enough ammo to stay afloat later. I'd like to think that everyone reading this who is "one of us" is just sitting back chuckling right now, saying......."Change the subject, Mike...I'm as ready as YOU are." Maybe this will all come to pass, and somehow, NONE of our rights are threatened, and I really hope it does. But I also know that you NEVER seem to have a flat tire out on the freeway.........until you don't have a good spare in the trunk. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Without the second ammendment there wouldn't be any others. I've been buying some "goodies" since earlier this year. I also started having more tax dollars taken out of my pay in advance of the Messiah.
THERE'S a THINKING MAN!!
Wow. Change begins. Rahm Emanuel Obama's pick for chief of staff. The guy has a bad temper and was on Freddie Mac's Board when it "misstated" its earnings. Freddie Mac also gave a large fortune to Obama. Shocked? Not me. Here comes the change that was "promised." You are what you surround yourself with...similar to you are what you eat.
Change? Seems more like more of the same dirty politics. Now, let the games begin.
Hang on to your hats folks...the grand illusion begins!
-- Posted by OpinionMissy on Thu, Nov 6, 2008, at 9:10 PM
Can you just imagine what the rest of this cabinet is going to look like?
I can see it now......He'll probably appoint Barney Frank as Treasury Secretary, Ceasar Chavez will be in charge of Homeland Security, Dianne Feinstein will be Secretary of State, Chuck Schumer will probably be the new CIA Director, he'll bring Janet Reno out of retirement to resume as Attorney General, and he will appoint Oprah Winfrey, Michael Moore and the entire cast of "The View" as foreign ambassadors.
We won't need a Secretary of Defense, because we won't NEED any defense. He's gonna sit down and parlay with all the bad guys, over lunch.
No problem, Missy. Sleep well tonight, Barack's got us covered.
I'm reminded of the story of the Trojan Horse. Any of you out there remember that one?
Changing Minds, One at a Time
Changing Minds, One at a Time
By Howard Zinn, March 2005 Issue
As I write this, the day after the inauguration, the banner headline in The New York Times reads: "BUSH, AT 2ND INAUGURAL, SAYS SPREAD OF LIBERTY IS THE 'CALLING OF OUR TIME.' "
Two days earlier, on an inside page of the Times, was a photo of a little girl, crouching, covered with blood, weeping. The caption read: "An Iraqi girl screamed yesterday after her parents were killed when American soldiers fired on their car when it failed to stop, despite warning shots, in Tal Afar, Iraq. The military is investigating the incident."
Today, there is a large photo in the Times of young people cheering the President as his entourage moves down Pennsylvania Avenue. They do not look very different from the young people shown in another part of the paper, along another part of Pennsylvania Avenue, protesting the inauguration.
I doubt that those young people cheering Bush saw the photo of the little girl. And even if they did, would it occur to them to juxtapose that photo to the words of George Bush about spreading liberty around the world?
That question leads me to a larger one, which I suspect most of us have pondered: What does it take to bring a turnaround in social consciousness--from being a racist to being in favor of racial equality, from being in favor of Bush's tax program to being against it, from being in favor of the war in Iraq to being against it? We desperately want an answer, because we know that the future of the human race depends on a radical change in social consciousness.
It seems to me that we need not engage in some fancy psychological experiment to learn the answer, but rather to look at ourselves and to talk to our friends. We then see, though it is unsettling, that we were not born critical of existing society. There was a moment in our lives (or a month, or a year) when certain facts appeared before us, startled us, and then caused us to question beliefs that were strongly fixed in our consciousness--embedded there by years of family prejudices, orthodox schooling, imbibing of newspapers, radio, and television.
This would seem to lead to a simple conclusion: that we all have an enormous responsibility to bring to the attention of others information they do not have, which has the potential of causing them to rethink long-held ideas. It is so simple a thought that it is easily overlooked as we search, desperate in the face of war and apparently immovable power in ruthless hands, for some magical formula, some secret strategy to bring peace and justice to the land and to the world.
"What can I do?" The question is thrust at me again and again as if I possessed some mysterious solution unknown to others. The odd thing is that the question may be posed by someone sitting in an audience of a thousand people, whose very presence there is an instance of information being imparted which, if passed on, could have dramatic consequences. The answer then is as obvious and profound as the Buddhist mantra that says: "Look for the truth exactly on the spot where you stand."
Yes, thinking of the young people holding up the pro-Bush signs at the inauguration, there are those who will not be budged by new information. They will be shown the bloodied little girl whose parents have been killed by an American weapon, and find all sorts of reasons to dismiss it: "Accidents happen. . . . This was an aberration. . . . It is an unfortunate price of liberating a nation," and so on.
There is a hard core of people in the United States who will not be moved, whatever facts you present, from their conviction that this nation means only to do good, and almost always does good, in the world, that it is the beacon of liberty and freedom (words used forty-two times in Bush's inauguration speech). But that core is a minority, as is that core of people who carried signs of protest at the inauguration.
In between those two minorities stand a huge number of Americans who have been brought up to believe in the beneficence of our nation, who find it hard to believe otherwise, but who can rethink their beliefs when presented with information new to them.
Is that not the history of social movements?
There was a hard core of people in this country who believed in the institution of slavery. Between the 1830s, when a tiny group of Abolitionists began their agitation, and the 1850s, when disobedience of the fugitive slave acts reached their height, the Northern public, at first ready to do violence to the agitators, now embraced their cause. What happened in those years? The reality of slavery, its cruelty, as well as the heroism of its resisters, was made evident to Americans through the speeches and writings of the Abolitionists, the testimony of escaped slaves, the presence of magnificent black witnesses like Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman.
Something similar happened during those years of the Southern black movement, starting with the Montgomery Bus Boycott, the sit-ins, the Freedom Rides, the marches. White people--not only in the North, but also in the South--were startled into an awareness of the long history of humiliation of millions of people who had been invisible and who now demanded their rights.
When the Vietnam War began, two-thirds of the American public supported the war. A few years later, two-thirds opposed the war. While some remained adamantly pro-war, one-third of the population had learned things that overthrew previously held ideas about the essential goodness of the American intervention in Vietnam. The human consequences of the fierce bombing campaigns, the "search and destroy" missions, became clear in the image of the naked young girl, her skin shredded by napalm, running down a road; the women and children huddled in the trenches in My Lai with soldiers pouring rifle fire onto them; Marines setting fire to peasant huts while the occupants stood by, weeping.
Those images made it impossible for most Americans to believe President Johnson when he said we were fighting for the freedom of the Vietnamese people, that it was all worthwhile because it was part of the worldwide struggle against Communism.
In his inauguration speech, and indeed, through all four years of his presidency, George Bush has insisted that our violence in Afghanistan and Iraq has been in the interest of freedom and democracy, and essential to the "war on terrorism." When the war on Iraq began almost two years ago, about three-fourths of Americans supported the war. Today, the public opinion polls show that at least half of the citizenry believes it was wrong to go to war.
What has happened in these two years is clear: a steady erosion of support for the war, as the public has become more and more aware that the Iraqi people, who were supposed to greet the U.S. troops with flowers, are overwhelmingly opposed to the occupation. Despite the reluctance of the major media to show the frightful toll of the war on Iraqi men, women, children, or to show U.S. soldiers with amputated limbs, enough of those images have broken through, joined by the grimly rising death toll, to have an effect.
But there is still a large pool of Americans, beyond the hard-core minority who will not be dissuaded by any facts (and it would be a waste of energy to make them the object of our attention), who are open to change. For them, it would be important to measure Bush's grandiose inaugural talk about the "spread of liberty" against the historical record of American expansion.
It is a challenge not just for the teachers of the young to give them information they will not get in the standard textbooks, but for everyone else who has an opportunity to speak to friends and neighbors and work associates, to write letters to newspapers, to call in on talk shows.
The history is powerful: the story of the lies and massacres that accompanied our national expansion, first across the continent victimizing Native Americans, then overseas as we left death and destruction in our wake in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and especially the Philippines. The long occupations of Haiti and the Dominican Republic, the repeated dispatch of Marines into Central America, the deaths of millions of Koreans and Vietnamese, none of them resulting in democracy and liberty for those people.
Add to all that the toll of the American young, especially the poor, black and white, a toll measured not only by the corpses and the amputated limbs, but the damaged minds and corrupted sensibilities that result from war.
Those truths make their way, against all obstacles, and break down the credibility of the warmakers, juxtaposing what reality teaches against the rhetoric of inaugural addresses and White House briefings. The work of a movement is to enhance that learning, make clear the disconnect between the rhetoric of "liberty" and the photo of a bloodied little girl, weeping.
And also to go beyond the depiction of past and present, and suggest an alternative to the paths of greed and violence. All through history, people working for change have been inspired by visions of a different world. It is possible, here in the United States, to point to our enormous wealth and suggest how, once not wasted on war or siphoned off to the super-rich, that wealth can make possible a truly just society.
The juxtapositions wait to be made. The recent disaster in Asia, alongside the millions dying of AIDS in Africa, next to the $500 billion military budget, cry out for justice. The words of people from all over the world gathered year after year in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and other places--"a new world is possible"--point to a time when national boundaries are erased, when the natural riches of the world are used for everyone.
The false promises of the rich and powerful about "spreading liberty" can be fulfilled, not by them, but by the concerted effort of us all, as the truth comes out, and our numbers grow.
-- Howard Zinn, the author of "A People's History of the United States," is a columnist for The Progressive.
It might interest you to know, Jacknife, that the war in Iraq is the only issue I AGREED with Obama on.
Afghanistan was the target-----and getting Bin Laden. Had it been me, I'd have tracked him and his Taliban down and nuked 'em if necessary.
Those ragheads all have their little networks over there, and we'd have had some serious "interogations" WITHOUT the media's presence.
America first. Over 3,000 killed on 9/11. I would not have let that stood. Bush was wrong and so is McCain on that.
Right now, my priority is re-focused on keeping what WE have.
I'm pretty sure Cesar Chavez is dead, and Obama wouldn't put a labor activist in charge of homeland security. But I'm sure whoever's in his cabinet, you'll find fault with, and the Republicans he appoints will be RINOs because they don't agree with you and Alan Keyes 100 percent of the time.
If Obama is successful - he may or may not be, time will tell - you'll keep right on complaining as you pay lower taxes, as the military comes back from Iraq, and as more members of al-Qaida's leadership are located and killed in the mountains of southern Asia. And if he isn't, go ahead and say "I told you so," you're just reminding us you've always been inclined to finding fault with Obama.
I mean, between a copy of his birth certificate verified by independent groups and only doubted by outfits with an anti-Obama agenda and his birth announcement in the local daily newspaper in Hawaii at the time some forty to fifty years ago, how much more evidence he's a legal citizen can you blindly ignore?
Even if the man fails we'll all be able to find a lot of other blogs and writings out there to explain the why and how, by bloggers and writers not so blinded by bizarre, irrelevant and often untrue smears - And it will probably be because he "reached out" and let Republicans larder down his proposals with THEIR failed ideas.
If Obama does a good job, I'l be the first to recognize that. I've supported Democrats in the past, but THIS guy isn't one of them, and all the pretty speeches in the world isn't going to change that.
I'm also very familiar with the snakes he's going to be surrounded with, from the Clintons, to the Feinsteinns to the Schumers and Bloombergs, and they're going to have a very open ticket with virtually NO checks and balances over the next 2 years.
Ex-Intern......you and I have had our debates, but I'm going to say this publicly and sincerely.............I hope you're right. I REALLY hope you are, because I don't see this happening.
He doesn't have the experience to be a Commander-in-Chief. The public was sold a bill of goods, and this was the most biased election in our history.
You know it as well as I, that with the media steamrolling, NO Republican would have gotten anywhere close to equal coverage.
Acorn wasn't a Republican movement, and Mike.......you're from Pennsylvania, and I can't believe that even YOU would condone that "Black Panther" voter intimidation at that polling place in Philly.
I've supported candidates in the past who have lost.......and well, you just "get over it and make the best that you can out of it.
THIS one, for myself and a lot of others, was radically different. I don't care how slick and smooth he is, there is NO WAY this guy is ready to lead this country.
He can't make decisions (his multitude of "present" votes confirm that). and 143 days as a U.S. Senator doesn't make him ready for a presidential run.
Ok......so he pulled it off, wonderful, break out the cake & ice cream, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.
Everybody's all worked up and excited because we've got something new and different. Reminds me of the old "medicine show wagons" of the old west.............sure to cure what ails ya.
Well Ex-Intern, like I said, I hope you're right, but because I know you're party for what is is, I'm going to join a huge chunk of Boise this morning and get to the gun show at the fairgrounds to pick up a few last odds and ends.
The ATF can't keep up with the paperwork ever since the election, and gun stores are selling out all over this country.
Not EVERYONE has been fooled.
You hope I'm right? Heh, I didn't actually predict Obama would succeed, just that, no matter what happens, you'll pick and choose what news informs your views, and some of it won't even be true - like Obama isn't a legal citizen or that he took his congressional oath on a Koran. And all of it will be slanted and biased against Obama.
He has as much experience to be comander-in-chief as Sarah Palin or Alan Keyes, either of whom you seem to think should be president. He's spent four years in the U.S. Senate working to get us out of a war in Iraq YOU say we should get out of, going up against Republicans like McCain who wanted/wants to keep us there for 50 years, and against a significant portion of the media, Fox News leading the way, that gave Bush a pass on vetoing funding for the troops when a plan to end Iraqi dependence on us was included and then raked Democrats over the coals for voting against funding the troops when it wasn't.
I also sincerely hope Obama does a good job - by which I mean, gets us out of Iraq while minimizing U.S. casualties, delivers tax relief to the middle-class so they have the money to spend to keep stores open and Americans working, and, at the very least regarding trade, blocks any more trade deals that force Americans to compete for employment with child labor and the 16-hour day.
If he fails to do those things you can say "I told you so" - and then you can try citing an example of McCain or Palin supporting that agenda in their White House run.
Ex-Intern...........I don't WANT to have to say "I told you so." Because I don't want to see this go down the way I think it will, to begin with.
Yes, Obama is right about the war, and I've said so, and I'm not a McCain fan either. If Palin hadn't been on the ticket, I'd have just done a "write-in."
If I know your party...they'll do what they've ALWAYS done when in power. They'll slash the defense budget to support their social programs (welfare has ALWAYS attracted the minority and alien votes), and they'll indeed "rob from the rich" and the small busunesses alike, to spread this "wealth" around.
Ever got a job from someone on relief?
When you tax big corporations even MORE, they generally do two things............they cutback and lay OFF.......and they don't HIRE.
The guys "makin' the money"........ate the guys PROVIDING THE JOBS. You people have never figured that out.
What the managers ought to be doing right now, is walking around their parking lots and see who's cars have Obama stickers on them. THEN, when they start getting slammed with more taxes, they'll know who to let go.
No, not quite right, Ex-Intern..........Obama hasn't spent 4 years as a full time U.S. Senator....he's spent the LAST TWO YEARS running for President.
And as far as "fault finding?"............I'd like for YOU to answer this one...............
If things are TOTALLY trashed 4 years from now............THEN, who are you Democrats going to blame? WHO? You guys will have been "drivin' the stagecoach"...no other hands on the reins but yours.
You're partying now, but you have no CHOICE but to make good on EVERYTHING he's promised, because in 2012, there won't be ANYBODY to share the blame with, and even your coveted media won't be of much help.
I just hope our kids and grandkids will still have a country to grow up in.
***TYPO....short paragraph 6......"the guys makin' the money.......ARE (not ate) the guys providing the jobs.
soory 'bout that.........(didn't have my reading glasses on when I "proof-read" it).
The republicans made the mess, make them clean it up along with the corperations they run with. yip, yip! oh wait the dems helped as well. I guess we helped as well with our lack of action, while they were running rampant in dc for the last 8 yrs. We should all be kicked in the teeth.
Jobs are made when the middle class can afford goods and services, which is why tax relief - rate cuts and/or credits - should be directed at them.
Rich people don't put the employees at the Kellogg's factory to work - the demand for breakfast cereals does. Rich people don't put SinterFire's employees to work, the demand for their type of bullet does.
We tried things the conservative, "supply-side" way, cutting taxes for the rich and for investors most recently the first two years of Bush's presidency - where are all the jobs??? Where is all the money and why do they need $700 billion in tax dollars? The money didn't trickle down - they lost it. Because their incentive isn't to invest in ways which create jobs in America and certainly not high-paying jobs, it's to balance risk of loss with potential for payoff. More simplistically, it's to make the most money, which led a lot of them to impractical, high-risk, "high-potential" investments that, surprise surprise, didn't work.