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Posted Monday, June 2, 2008, at 6:01 PM
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"Well..........," as President Reagan used to say (and I wish he were still alive and in office to say it),...... it's looking more and more like McCain or Obama.

It's not always easy to admit when we're wrong, but the old Bazookaman here sure missed the mark leading up to the primaries! I'd thought for SURE, folks have had enough of the government. Obviously not.

I guess we don't have enough illegals here yet. We're not far enough in debt to China just yet. We haven't lost enough rights and privacy to suit everybody. We haven't lost enough servicemen in Iraq, nor has the IRS robbed enough citizens yet. And of course, we're not paying twenty bucks a gallon yet.

I guess we've gotta get hammered some more.

I've heard a lot of people gripe and carry on, but when it came time to vote........well, why go into it.

Although I've voted like an Independent these past two elections, I've remained a Republican on paper, to at least be able to vote for good senators and congressmen, if there ARE any.

I was graciously invited to the most recent GOP meeting here in Mountain Home, and attended, out of curiosity for the most part. For years now, I've wondered what's happened to "my" party.

Since they were nice enough to invite me, I won't mention any names or particulars, except to say that it isn't the GOP of the Goldwater and Reagan era.

Ronald Reagan, who himself was once a Democrat, once quoted that he never left the Democratic party........."The Democratic Party left ME," he said.

This is exactly how I felt about the GOP when I went home that night. No, that meeting itself didn't convince me of anything I didn't already know, but it DID show me that liberal compromise exists at all levels of today's GOP.

Incredible.......just seven years after 9/11, the left wants to put someone with little experience ANYWHERE, and muslim ties to boot, into the White House.

The "right," (and I use that word loosely), who have complained about Kennedy, Feinstein, Clinton, Biden and the others for years and years now..........NOW parade a candidate who is every bit as liberal as the Democrats they've been complaining about.

"Well................" Your choice, but unfortunately we're ALL gonna have to live with it, leastwise, until we as a people HAVE been pushed too far.

You know, as I said earlier, I'd have thought we had long ago REACHED that point. I wonder what more has to happen before we ALL realize that the real war on terrorism starts in Washington D.C.

What's it going to take? A police state? Microchip implants (which will actually begin with this new "Real ID"}. The loss of every freedom, with 3 agents in dark suits on street corners demanding to see "your PAPERS please." Three families of illegals packed into a house YOU can't afford anymore?

Like the ostrich, you can bury your heads in the sand and pretend you don't see it, but it's coming.......and to stay with the "establishment" while we still have the power to make changes, is both fatalistic and just outrght stupid.

But....majority rules. I just hope "majority" has the collective guts to stand and fight when the time comes.............and it will.


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I agree with you on some things and disagree with you on others and I believe that is the case for most people, since no two people are alike when you get right down to it. That is why I think the biggest problem that we have is the two party system. I have been told before that we don't have a two party system, but I disagree. There are only two people who have a shot at the presidency (or most other offices) and they are the republican and the democratic candidates. I believe that if we ever find a way to fix this, we will start moving toward electing the best candidate for the job, but that is nearly impossible today.

-- Posted by IdahoBorn on Tue, Jun 3, 2008, at 12:37 PM

Actually, there's only ONE major party today, they're called "Republicrats." Hard to tell one crook from the other anymore.

There are a lot of us out here in the Ron Paul grassroots movement who hope he'll run in the fall as an Independent.

I hope so, or at least hope a good 3rd party candidate comes along, because we're in DEEP KIMCHI otherwise, and it won't matter WHO gets in next year....McCain or Obama.......we've had it.

It's the job of the liberal media to work 24/7 making sure the average American thinks he HAS to do one or the other.............no other choice. They are agenda-driven as well.

I predict by this time next year, those who asked "Who's Ron Paul" are gonna wish they took the time to find out.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Tue, Jun 3, 2008, at 6:38 PM

I don't believe that it matters if Ron Paul runs or not. I don't think he stands a chance and even if he did win the democrats and republicans still control everything else.

Something has to change, I'll give you that and you have to start somewhere, but I don't see a big enough change happening anytime soon. Please prove me wrong.

-- Posted by IdahoBorn on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 8:20 AM

Several months ago, I said that barring an upset by Ron Paul, or somebody like if (if there IS anyone else), nothing short of a revolt is going to change anything in this country. I still believe that. Would have been nice to get it done at the ballot box, (although we haven't heard the last of Ron Paul, and McCain is still far short of the COMMITTED delegates HE needs to lock up the nomination).

Unfortunately, people who don't have the savvy to disregard the media and think for themsselves, probably don't have the intestinal fortitude to stand and fight for the rights that are going away, and if we wait until they're kicking in the doors, it'll be too late.

I think it's gonna have to get pretty ugly, disgusting and repulsive before we as a country decide to take it back.

THIS incidently, is why they're going to finish coming after our guns if they can. The bureaucrats aren't stupid, they KNOW they have to disarm us first before they push us too far. I think it'll happen within Obama/McCain's first two years, while there are still enough votes in Congress to get an all out ban, without fear of a Presidential veto.

We hardcore owners aren't going to give them up without a firefight ensuing, and at THAT point, we'll see if today's Americans want their freedom as badly as

our founders did in 1776.

Yeah, IdahoBorn, the odds ARE pretty slim, but a citizen HAS to do SOMETHING, even if it's a long shot. Worst case scenario, I and thousands of others will at least sleep at night knowing we didn't just give up and let McCain or Obama walk into the White House without SOME sort of resistance.

Voting for the candidate who would do the best job for America is never a wasted vote.

But, when it comes right down to it, (and I hope I'm around long enough to take an active part), it's going to take a revolt to get it back. I've known that for years now, but was hoping we could START at the polls. Obviously, our fellow countrymen haven't had their butts kicked around enough yet.

They will.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 8:50 AM

I'm not sure what all of the worrying about guns is all about. I'm not too worried about it myself, but then again I don't want to possess an assualt rifle or in your case a bazooka.

I agree with Ron Paul on many things, but I disagree with him on Iraq and taxes. I'm not even sure where he stands on energy and the environment, but he seems to avoid serious discussion there by turning the conversation to Iraq and war for oil.

-- Posted by IdahoBorn on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 10:19 AM

The gun issue is part of a longtime plan to create a one-world-order, putting us under complete control of the United Nations. Additionally, Democrats feel we would all be safer if only the police and military were armed. Hitler said the same thing in 1935.

Nobody NEEDS an assault rifle, but if we "comprimise" there, it will not STOP there. I've studied Kennedy, Feinstein, Schumer, Clinton and others at fairly close range (no pun intended), and am NOT taken in by the rhetoric of the left.

"TODAY YOUR AR-15.....TOMORROW YOUR 22." THAT is why neither the NRA, and hardcore legitimate gun owners everywhere, will NEVER "comprimise" with the left on this matter.

The 2nd Amendment is the most vital one we have, because it is the ONLY Amendment that INSURES we'll always have the rest of them.

History is not opinion........history is truth because it is something we know has happened. And history has proven to us that 6 million UN-armed Jews went to the gas chambers.

Genocide has happened in a LOT of countries, where guns were confiscated beforehand.............not Bradbury's opinion here, but a matter of record. Check it for yourself.

The gun issue IS vital, which is why a McCain or Obama Presidency deeply concerns me. I know where these characters stand and how they have voted.

IRAQ..........as one who fought in Vietnam, I will tell you first hand, we have no business in Iraq. Every war from Korea forward.....has been a U.N. resolution.

Fact: We have not lost any troops for OUR country since World War II, and NOWHERE in our Constitution does it say that America is supposed to be the "world's policeman." Nowhere.

Only Congress can declare war, also per our Constitution. BIN LADEN was responsible for 9/11. but instead of going after HIM with any fervor, Bush went after Iraq, in a move I firmly believe, was to somehow "vindicate" his dad's failure over there in Desert Storm. There were no WMD's, we've lost over 4,000 thus far, it's still undeclared, and McCain wants to keep it going.

Our troops are for OUR defense, (also in the Constitution). Ron Paul wants to close every overseas base on the globe, and (what a novel idea), bring them all home to guard OUR borders, instead of everyone else's.

Taxes. Illegal. Tax system originally laid out to pay for government services. Money to come from taxes on things we buy. (Tariff system). In 1913, a handful of politicians met during Christmas break and came up with the "16th Amendment", which was never legally ratified, lacks an Enabling Clause...and twice since.......the U.S. Supreme Court has declared that Congress has no power to collect individual income taxes..........ver batim, "No Further Taxation."

You can call the IRS, talk to ANY agent, and ask them to give you the statute that requires you to pay a personal income tax. They cannot, because no such law even exists. Likewise, there is NO law requiring you to even file a 1040, and they cannot show you one.

The money they extract from us goes into the "Federal Reserve Bank", which isn't "Federal" at all, and not ONE DIME of it goes for us, but to the private bankers.

Go online to Freedom to Fascism. Order that disc, and you'll be as mad as Ron Paul is. He is CORRECT to want to dismantle the IRS.

We'd revert back to a flat tax....just paying taxes on what we buy.

The difference is, Congress would have to live on a budget like the rest of us. There would be ample money for defense, highways and basic services.

There would NOT be millions, billions and trillions to keep building everyone else's country while OURS goes into the trashcan.

Know what "witholding" is?? The Victory Tax of World War II, which was reapealled in 1944.............yet they've kept right on taking it out, haven't they?

To be honest, I'm not sure myself where he stands on the energy or environment, but since he doesn't operate or vote outside of our Constitution, I'm sure his ideas are for the good..............one thing's for sure though, if we can keep the NAU stopped and manage to seal the borders, that will definitely have a positive impact on the environment.

I'm not sure this illegal war IS about oil. I think if it was, we'd be getting a price break on it, especially from the region we're supposed to be "liberating."

We can't shove our way of life down anyone else's throat, without reprocussion of some kind. We wouldn't like it, and neither do they. And who are WE to try to solve everyone else's problems when we can't even solve our own.

We need to get our noses out of everyone else's business, and start looking after number ONE, before we lose it.

That's what people like Ron Paul are all about. America First...........that's an absurd thought for 2008, ain't it?

The thieves in D.C., the Rockefellers, the illegals and a lot of countries around the world do NOT want the handouts to stop. The Bloombergs and Feinsteins want their power, the Bushes want their oil fields, the Kennedys want their yachts and the U.N. wants it all...........and NONE of them want somebody like Ron Paul to be rocking their bureaucratic boat.

THEY know "who Ron Paul is", and they own enough of the mainstream media to make sure that most of the voters DON'T.

They've done a pretty good brainwash too, don't ya think? Looks like it's gonna be one Democrat against the other this November.

Instead of "God Bless America," I think "God Help America" is more appropriate today.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 2:09 PM

"Nobody NEEDS an assault rifle, but if we "comprimise" there, it will not STOP there."

So, what if I want an RPG or a nuclear warhead. Is it okay with you if I have those?

"IRAQ..........as one who fought in Vietnam, I will tell you first hand, we have no business in Iraq. Every war from Korea forward.....has been a U.N. resolution."

I disagree. Saddam was doing his best to lead us to believe that he had WMDs and was not living up to the sanctions. I do agree with you however, that we should get out of the U.N. (quickly).

"Fact: We have not lost any troops for OUR country since World War II, and NOWHERE in our Constitution does it say that America is supposed to be the "world's policeman." Nowhere."

I disagree and feel that what you are saying is very disrespectful to our servicemen and women. By the way, the Constitution was written, by men, over two hundered years ago. While they were great men they were still men and therefore not perfect and neither is the document. A lot has changed in 200+ years. We can't wait for threats/issues to reach our shores before we respond.

"Taxes. Illegal."

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you pay taxes, just like I do.

"We need to get our noses out of everyone else's business, and start looking after number ONE, before we lose it."

I disagree with the first part of this statement, because that is critical in looking out for #1.

-- Posted by IdahoBorn on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 10:07 AM

Bazooka:

Have you joined Ron Paul's campaign? I would like to get a sign to put in my yard, do you know where I can find one??

-- Posted by Missylynn on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 11:39 AM

I've been part of the Ron Paul Campaign from the begining. I've got some bumper stickers left, a few DVD's etc.

Yard sign? You bet! Just tell me where you want one delivered, or where I can meet you to give you one.

-- Posted by bazookaman on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 12:50 PM

IdahoBorn.....I am a 22-year service veteran, through 2 branches of the service. Any disrespect I have, is for our GOVERNMENT, not any of my fellow veterans.

Until someone changes it, it's still our Constitution, which does NOT call for our troops OR our tax dollars to be used for anyone else but us.

We lost a lot of American lives trying to protect Koreans from OTHER Koreans.

We lost over 58,000 trying to protect Vietnamese from OTHER Vietnamese.

The only people who have attacked US since Pearl Harbor, was BIN LADEN.......as in "BIN LADEN.....AFGHANISTAN?" So in Iraq, our people are dying to protect Their region, not ours.

A Marine once, I was in the Air Force several years later, stationed in Italy when we got the word that our government had just walked out of Vietnam..........and today of course, it's in communist hands. I cannot begin to tell you the anger I felt when that happened.

It had all been for NOTHING.

I'm physically dealing with Agent Orange today, from fighting for someone ELSE's freedoms. Not ours.

Ironic too.........in Vietnam, we were trusted with bazookas, machineguns, handgrenades, flamethrowers, and our government PAID us to kill, burn and destroy everywhere we were directed.

Today in the "land of the free,", they don't trust us with a 22, without redtape, privacy invasion and a mountain of record-keeping.

RPG? If you're an honest citizen, it's ok by me. It's the punk down the street with a switchblade and a record a mile long that bothers ME. You know, the ones that the lawters keep getting off. Until you start robbing Circle "K" stores, it's none of the government's business what you own.

Our Constitution wasn't some after-thought at a tavern. It was constructed by men who had just thrown off a tyranical monarchy. They KNEW the price of liberty, which meant they also knew what it would take to keep it. They didn't trust government, not even the one they were creating, and they didn't want US to trust it either.

This is why the Constitution was created....as a safeguard to keep the government in check, and answerable to the people.

You see what's happened since our "leaders" started disregarding that "piece of paper" and we've collectively stood by and let it happen.

As for "waiting for threats to reach our shores?" Hate to tell you this, but they're HERE! Because Bush is more concerned with everyone else's borders, OURS remain open..........those 12-14 million aliens we've got?......Are they ALL Mexicans? I think not.

Yes, I have taxes taken from me. I don't like it, but until enough people figure it out and enough of us stand together, there isn't much we can do............at the moment, anyway.

Our tax dollars are for OUR use. We aren't the world's "Welfare Office" anymore than we're the "World's Policeman."

Couldn't agree more, IdahoBorn..........if I were in charge, the very FIRST order of business would be to get us OUT of the U.N., and kick the U.N. OUT of this country!

-- Posted by bazookaman on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 7:39 PM


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