As it says on bumper stickers you've seen......"From My Cold Dead Fingers."

I will never surrender my guns. If it becomes law, as I think it will after the Democrats are running everything, I'll simply be an outlaw, which is ok, seeing as how the hoods have more rights than honest folks.

I wish to say right up front, that I have no personal animosity toward liberals. They MEAN well, I KNOW they do. The whole world in peace, harmony, no crime or violence, total freedom and liberty to live life as one chooses, fragrant flowers, Lennon, Yoko, weed when you want it and a bright future through rose colored glasses.

Yeah, a lot of us would like that, to some degree or another. I'd like to take a 3 week trip someplace without having to lock the house. But this is 2008. Ain't gonna happen, nor will it get better.

Liberalism doesn't work and will NEVER work on this planet. EVERYBODY would have to agree to be nice from now on, and follow through with that. Do you see that happening? Across the nation? Across the globe?

Fact. Cities with the toughest gun laws have the highest crime rates. No rocket science here, criminals thrive where there is no resistence. Crime in Idaho? Sure there is, but nowhere near the proportions it is elsewhere. Carrying out a home invasion for example, is very risky in states like Idaho, where a gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

"Bazookaman.....you said something about surrendering guns after the Dems take over? What makes you think that?"

Their legislative history. Every current gun law and those now being proposed were/are sponsored by the left. With Congress already under Democrat control, the iron will never be hotter than it will be when there's a liberal in the White House as well.

"But McCain might BEAT Hillary or Obama."

If he does, there'll STILL be an antigun liberal in the White House. We don't have a dog in this fight, and it'll be up to US if we surrender them. Personally, I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.

Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, rarely known and dubbed "Operation Garden Plot" is one of the main routes through which private gun confiscation will take place under sub-sections B-3-1, L-2, L-3, Q-1 and X-1. I'm not going into detail on this or any other website, except to say that this is a governmental contingency plan to use Federal troops to squash the citizens, if we ever say "ENOUGH" as our forefathers did against the British monarchy.

Question for YOU:.......what sort of "kindly government" would EXPECT the citizens to turn on them? An honest government wouldn't NEED an emergency plan against its own citizens, would it?

This is why we all need to be "dis-armed" first.......it ain't about crime. And the U.N. is pushing hard for it, as they have in so many other countries around the world. As I've said before, you can't push people around who can push back.

"Well.....how come this isn't on NBC or CNN?"

Get Real......incidently, why do you think there's a movement under way to try to shut down Talk Radio? What are they afraid the people might hear?

Mainstream media, particularly television, is HEAVILY antigun. Think not? In an hour long gun debate, the "pro" side might get 12 to 15 minutes, but the "antis" get the rest.

Ok........prove it to yourself. Go get a cup of coffee.

No, I mean it.......GO GET A CUP, sit down a few minutes and ponder what I'm about to remind you of, and see for YOURSELF if it isn't true! If you HAVEN't seen this, you will....................

Here's the scenario.......you're watching a news broadcast and the anchorman is talking about a drug bust, warehouse break-in, kidnapping, rape, or something along those lines.

Ok..........stay with me now...........

Although no weapons were involved, we still see a superimposed square behind him, over his shoulder, with the word "CRIME" and a picture of a HANDGUN, whether one was used or not! Ever seen that? Think now..........

It's a subliminal message to get you to think that guns are responsible for every evil act ever committed....to tie the two together in your mind.

Well, they aren't getting any of mine, while I'm still alive and able to do anything about it. And like many of my fellow shooters, I've seen the handwriting on the wall for some time now. I've got what I need and won't have to pay twice what a gun is worth when dealers start to panic.

For me anyway, it's ironic, because while I grew up with guns, and a sense of right from wrong, I no longer get the fun out of an afternoon at the range that I used to. I'm not as agile at 60 as I was at 30, and no longer feel the exhileration of quartering and packing elk a mile back to the truck. I find myelf spending more time with rifles similar to those I carried in the Marine Corps, than my old bolt action deer rifles.

I don't particularly like it, but it's going to be a matter of survival soon, as it was 40+ years ago in the jungles and rice paddies. The big difference being that THIS time, it'll be for a just cause.............OUR freedom, not someone else's.

If I've somehow miscalculated this, if this doesn't actually come off in my time........well, no harm done, at least I was ready, willing and able............and sometimes it's GOOD to be wrong.

At any rate, It's always better to have a gun and not need it, than need one and not have it.